********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:58:07 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Rocky E Rocheux CC: bruce.modlin@firstdatacorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > Whatever works for you----go for it and God bless you. Tolerance. > Well...... I guess that should about do it for throttle locks.. wouldn't Y'all say??!!! :)) ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russell C. Jackson" To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 01:01:15 -0700 In all fairness, Rocky, you did ask everyone to flame you for your use of rubber bands. Up until that point, nobody had said a word about your choice of throttle control. I totally agree with your freedom of choice to use rubber bands, but it sounds like you wanted our approval of your choice and when we didn't give it, you felt that we were all telling you that you should not use rubber bands. From what I have seen so far, no has told you to switch, only that we choose not to use rubber bands. That is just our choice and our opinion which you did ask for. Later, Rusty ===================================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer http://jackson.dyn.ml.org - rusty@san.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------- Extending the Enterprise with FormLogic by Wright Strategies, Inc. 600 B Street, 18th Floor San Diego, CA 92101-4590 619-702-0500 x124 619-702-0501 fax http://www.wrightstrat.com - rjackson@wrightstrat.com ===================================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux [SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 1997 5:54 PM To: bruce.modlin@firstdatacorp.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks Thanks, but no thanks. Your fiddlings putting on and taking off an O ring while underway sounds like real hazardous duty. Thanks but my rubber bands stay nicely in place and act just like the throttle screw on my 89 Harley Springer, holding the throttle in place nicely. Where ever I put it it stays. I rarely take my hand off the throttle, but if I have to for any reason it stays right there. Oh I left my hand off for a long spell once last weekend to see what would happen and it ever so slowly began to slow down------but again, I spend verrrrrrrrrry little time with either hand off the bar and never ride handsfree. That is for Evil Knievel. If I use rubber bands and they eliminate ache, tingle and numbness for me then why on God's green earth should I do anything else? What I am looking for here is tolerance. Tolerance. I would fight for my buddy's right to use and brag about his Throttle Meister. It is just like telling someone that YOUR way of losing weight is the ONLY way. Bottom line: Whatever works for you----go for it and God bless you. Tolerance. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russell C. Jackson" To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: Re: rifle Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 01:05:01 -0700 Is it just me or does it seem that Cycle Design is overcharging for the Rifle shield? I seem to remember paying about $175 for my complete Rifle setup, maybe a little over $200 with tax and shipping. The difference is the $40 for the color which still only make the price around $225 plus tax and shipping. Rusty ===================================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer http://jackson.dyn.ml.org - rusty@san.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------- Extending the Enterprise with FormLogic by Wright Strategies, Inc. 600 B Street, 18th Floor San Diego, CA 92101-4590 619-702-0500 x124 619-702-0501 fax http://www.wrightstrat.com - rjackson@wrightstrat.com ===================================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Chambers [SMTP:greg501@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 1997 9:07 PM To: Dave Gross Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: rifle You wrote: > >as far as your invoice. It was in the box I recieved and is as follows. > >1 Rifle Base/Red Honda $190.00 >1 Rifle 24" Clear PC 800W $ 79.00 >2 UPS @$10.75 $ 21.50 > >Taxable Subtotal $269.00 >Non-Taxable Subtotal $21.50 >Sales Tax $13.45 > >TOTAL CHARGE> $303.95 > >WOW!! I got the red base on my Rifle with the group a few months ago from Cycle design, and it was the same $180 or so plus $40 extra for "color match", less the discount. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA00944 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:12:26 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? In a message dated 97-07-31 09:23:27 EDT, Gerard writes: << I changed the rear suspension with Koni's, and front suspension with WP progressive springs. Since that time I didn't experienced the "shimmy" problem again. >> Hmmmm? If changing the front suspension fixes the problem, then this tells me two things: 1) I suppose I should get around to installing the Progressive Suspension springs I bought some time ago but have put off installing until I got a good reason to take the front end apart 2) Iit sounds like the problem may be simply due to an incorrect ride height once the stock springs start to sag a bit. This seems reasonable, and I did notice that both my '89 and the wife's '90 started doing it only after about a year of operation and replacing the tires didn't cure the problem for long. Given this, the solution may be as simple as increasing the preload on the front springs such that the "stock" ride height is restored. Of course, getting to the fork caps to install larger preload spacers is the same amount of work as getting to them to replace the springs. Consequently, if I ever get around to the chore, I would do just that. But if someone who has not already purchased new springs wanted to try readjusting the preload with stock springs, that would give us all some good information on this topic. If it works, it would be a lot cheaper ( a few penny's worth of pvc pipe vs $60 or $70 for new springs) solution than replacing the springs unnecessarily. Anyone want to give it a try and report back? JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA06922 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:33:42 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks In a message dated 97-08-01 00:49:29 EDT, Rocky writes: << If I use rubber bands and they eliminate ache, tingle and numbness for me then why on God's green earth should I do anything else? What I am looking for here is tolerance. Tolerance. I would fight for my buddy's right to use and brag about his Throttle Meister. It is just like telling someone that YOUR way of losing weight is the ONLY way. Bottom line: Whatever works for you----go for it and God bless you. Tolerance. >> Amen, Brother. We are of the same vintage, my friend; so, perhaps there is something about having started riding back in the "good ol' days" that encourages us to recognize and appreciate the diversity among motorcycle riders and their approach to the whole thing. On the other hand, I know several "mature" riders who are still the opinionated, flaming jerks they always were. Go figure! :) Throttle return springs are a good idea from a safety standpoint, but there are other considerations that come into play, like rider comfort and the occasional need to do something else with your right hand when riding. A throttle-friction device meets those other needs quite well, and I use one routinely. My personal choice is one that can be quickly and conveniently disengaged so that "normal" throttle-spring action can occur, but the other solutions (thottle screws, Throttlemeisters, and your rubber bands) cause me no difficulties. They simply indicate a different set of priorities for those that use them. Of the "full-time" friction devices, I happen to think your solution is the most practical one that I can imagine, but the others work too, and that is cool as far as I'm concerned. As a "motorcycle safety Nazi" by avocation, I have a tendency to drift into "should" and "ought to" once in a while, but I am normally able to recognize it and back off before becoming too militant about it. What people do when they ride is their own business. My task in this regard is to simply make sure I've done what I can to pass along solid information about operating a street motorcycle in ways that have been shown to be successful. What people decide to do with that information is their right and their responsibility. Keep ridin' and keep smilin'. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA16991 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:33:39 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: two simple questions In a message dated 97-08-01 07:50:56 EDT, Bob Ray writes: << Of course, returning fire (i.e. the finger) to a passing Harley rider is probably the only time I do this particular stunt. Gotta use both hands for that one (which is yet another practice not endorsed by the MSF). >> Actually, Bob, I don't think the MSF has a position on this particular technique. If pressed for one, I suspect they might recommend against it on the grounds that you could get your lights punched out under certain circumstances. :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:38:35 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:30:07 -0400 I changed my front springs to Progressive , new Metzlers, and correct air pressure and still have the shimmy at low speed (20 MPH or so) when I take both hands off the handle bars. Solution is to not take both hands off the handle bars at low speeds. Ok at 70 MPH or higher ( just kidding). Vince ---------- << I changed the rear suspension with Koni's, and front suspension > with WP progressive springs. Since that time I didn't experienced the > "shimmy" problem again. > >> > > Hmmmm? If changing the front suspension fixes the problem, then this tells > me two things: > > 1) I suppose I should get around to installing the Progressive Suspension > springs I bought some time ago but have put off installing until I got a good > reason to take the front end apart > > 2) Iit sounds like the problem may be simply due to an incorrect ride height > once the stock springs start to sag a bit. This seems reasonable, and I did > notice that both my '89 and the wife's '90 started doing it only after about > a year of operation and replacing the tires didn't cure the problem for long. > Given this, the solution may be as simple as increasing the preload on the > front springs such that the "stock" ride height is restored. Of course, > getting to the fork caps to install larger preload spacers is the same amount > of work as getting to them to replace the springs. Consequently, if I ever > get around to the chore, I would do just that. But if someone who has not > already purchased new springs wanted to try readjusting the preload with > stock springs, that would give us all some good information on this topic. > If it works, it would be a lot cheaper ( a few penny's worth of pvc pipe vs > $60 or $70 for new springs) solution than replacing the springs > unnecessarily. Anyone want to give it a try and report back? > > JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:10:36 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: VR2XVI Cc: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800: Re: Cycle Design... Philips, I just spoke to Jaima, Doug's right hand girl at Cycle Design. Doug is out of town and you won't be able to reach him until the beginning of next week. Jaima says the tax might be her fault. When I checked with Doug a few weeks ago, he told me it was his intention to sell the Rifle "stuff" he has in stock for the same price as the original buy some months ago. The reason he has "stuff" in stock is that he had to buy more than was ordered by the list in order to get a good enough price from Rifle to give the PC listers the price he did. I've personally had dealings with Doug and he's a straight guy. I'm sure the problem you are having is a simple mix-up. If not then I and the list should be informed. He is very interested in making sales to the list. He's one of the few dealers that recommends the PC to customers. He buys all he can get. Please fax your concerns to him. Tel 1-508-249-2244 Tel 1-800-343-1374 Fax 1-508-249-2109 Roger Prince VR2XVI wrote: > > Hi Roger, > > Sorry to bother you again, I'm trying to send Doug a FAX but I don't > have the # - and even their invoice don't carry that. i recalled that > you FAX to Doug before, if you keep it, please forward to me. > > Besides, is there any messages from Doug? Since you know Doug better, > if you wish, that will be very helpful if you could talk to him before I > call and get in contact with him, for a solution that both sides happy > with. You know, there will be less 'armour' when talking to a friend > than to a stranger. > > If you got the chance, let Doug know I just want the 20% discount > refunded as CD promised, or match to Rifle's MSRP; also tax is not > applicable to my case. Or I afraid I have to cancelled the order and > have everything returned. Even I have to absorb the return shipping, > and order again from Rifle, the total still less than $303. > > Is that too much? But I think that all quite reasonable, especially > from the view point of a customer/buyer. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:45:20 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Fuel Mileage drop Dear guys, Those of you with long memories may recall my reporting a significant drop in my fuel mileage last Spring, and some attempts at correcting it I've made since then. In short, starting with my first ride in the spring of 1996, I noticed that my mileage had dropped from around 50 to 40-42. I noticed this just as I took off for a long trip from home base in Columbia, MD to Michigan. Mileage on that trip averaged around 42. On the advice of some folks here I examined my auto fuel valve for pinholes (none) and replaced it anyway. This seemed to bring the mileage up a bit to around 45. Also on the basis of list memebers' advice, I replaced the gas cap. This had no effect. Can anyone suggest another possible cause for this? I continue to have a strong fuel smell when stopped, and believe that fuel is draining out of the auto fuel valve's litle drain spout. This could be where my gas is going, but why? Can someone explain to me how this system works, what this valve does, and why it has a drain? Are there other components in this system that could go bad, and need replacing? Thanks in advance for your advice! --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: , "VR2XVI" Cc: "PC800 Mail List" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Cycle Design... Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:30:56 -0500 For what it's worth, I got a very good price and quick shipping on the Rifle fairing I ordered from Cycle Design less than two weeks ago. He seemed like a good guy, both interested in and supportive of PCs. Bob Ray "I eat guys like you for breakfast!" -- Jeffrey Dahmer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:02:21 -0400 From: "David J. Fial" Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles To: pc800 listserv Subject: PC800: Where's a good place to buy a helmet? Where a good place to buy a helmet? I have been looking into a Shoei RF700. It seems to fit my head the best. I'm in Richmond, VA, but will consider mailorder. Thanks, Dave -- David J. Fial (fialdj@erols.com, fialdj@usa.net) Telecommunications Engineer & Bowling Equipment supplier Richmond, VA GO Sabres!!! Going for the cup!!! Beware the Penguin(Bud Ice)!!! Give Blood, Play Hockey! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:22:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Silicon in Antifreeze Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:15:41 -0400 Someone brought this subject up several days ago but no discussion started. Why? No concern? Or did I miss it? There is an letter with responce in the August 1997 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News about water pump failures in Goldwings that could be caused by the silicone silicate in automobile antifreeze. Seems that the silicone could be causing these problems. The two brands mentioned were Zerex and Prestone. I went out to workshop to check the label on Zerex and it does contain the silicone ( either sand or ground glass). According to the reply in MSN, Honda and most other made for motorcycle brands DO NOT contain these silicates. Any comments from the gearheads or engineers in our group? Vince PS Thanks to whoever memtioned that their shift lever was about to fall off. Mine was loose as a goose. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:07:30 -0800 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fialdj@usa.net Subject: Re: PC800: Where's a good place to buy a helmet? Date: 01 Aug 97 08:01:04 KDT Try Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse...last time I checked they were selling RF700s for under $200. http://www.accwhse.com/ or you can call: 1-800-241-2222 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Where's a good place to buy a helmet? Author: fialdj@usa.net at CC2MHS1 Date: 8/1/97 11:02 AM Where a good place to buy a helmet? I have been looking into a Shoei RF700. It seems to fit my head the best. I'm in Richmond, VA, but will consider mailorder. Thanks, Dave -- David J. Fial (fialdj@erols.com, fialdj@usa.net) Telecommunications Engineer & Bowling Equipment supplier Richmond, VA GO Sabres!!! Going for the cup!!! Beware the Penguin(Bud Ice)!!! Give Blood, Play Hockey! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RCZ10404; Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:44:05 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:43:40 -0700 Subject: PC800: Loose Things... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Discovered a loose bolt just about ready to fall off today on the left side of the passenger grips. Upon inspection, also discovered that the middle bolt on the same side has already disappeared. I suspect it's my fault, seeing as I use that grip to pull the bike up on its stand and never bothered to check to see if they were staying tight. Haven't looked closely yet, but I think the thread in the bike frame is stripped. Live and Learn, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,332 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:43:34 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Mica Landry Subject: Re: PC800: Where's a good place to buy a helmet? At 11:02 AM 8/1/97 -0400, you wrote: >Where a good place to buy a helmet? I have been looking into a Shoei >RF700. It seems to fit my head the best. I'm in Richmond, VA, but will >consider mailorder. > >Thanks, Dave >-- >David J. Fial (fialdj@erols.com, fialdj@usa.net) Dear David, I bought an RF700 from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse of Colorado Springs (mailorder). Very helpful staff and relatively reasonable (about $189, as I remember). I also didn't have to pay Louisiana's 8% sales tax! They can be reached at 1-800-241-2222, or check out their website at http://www.accwhse.com/. I have ordered several products from them and service has always been good. Incidentally, the RF700 is a wonderful piece of equipment. Really cuts down on wind noise (although I always wear hearing protection, anyway). Fits my head like a glove. Mica Landry 95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id USY19596; Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:39:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:39:49 EDT Thanks for a very thoughtful and nice post. On Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:33:42 -0400 (EDT) JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-08-01 00:49:29 EDT, Rocky writes: > ><< If I use rubber bands and they eliminate ache, tingle and numbness >for me > then why on God's green earth should I do anything else? What I am > looking for here is tolerance. Tolerance. I would fight for my >buddy's > right to use and brag about his Throttle Meister. It is just like > telling someone that YOUR way of losing weight is the ONLY way. >Bottom > line: Whatever works for you----go for it and God bless you. >Tolerance. > >> > >Amen, Brother. We are of the same vintage, my friend; so, perhaps >there is >something about having started riding back in the "good ol' days" that >encourages us to recognize and appreciate the diversity among >motorcycle >riders and their approach to the whole thing. On the other hand, I >know >several "mature" riders who are still the opinionated, flaming jerks >they >always were. Go figure! :) > >Throttle return springs are a good idea from a safety standpoint, but >there >are other considerations that come into play, like rider comfort and >the >occasional need to do something else with your right hand when riding. > A >throttle-friction device meets those other needs quite well, and I use >one >routinely. My personal choice is one that can be quickly and >conveniently >disengaged so that "normal" throttle-spring action can occur, but the >other >solutions (thottle screws, Throttlemeisters, and your rubber bands) >cause me >no difficulties. They simply indicate a different set of priorities >for >those that use them. Of the "full-time" friction devices, I happen to >think >your solution is the most practical one that I can imagine, but the >others >work too, and that is cool as far as I'm concerned. > >As a "motorcycle safety Nazi" by avocation, I have a tendency to drift >into >"should" and "ought to" once in a while, but I am normally able to >recognize >it and back off before becoming too militant about it. What people do >when >they ride is their own business. My task in this regard is to simply >make >sure I've done what I can to pass along solid information about >operating a >street motorcycle in ways that have been shown to be successful. What >people >decide to do with that information is their right and their >responsibility. > >Keep ridin' and keep smilin'. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WwC19596; Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:01:15 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: greasing the splines From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:01:15 EDT Reading the manual I see that when the differential case is removed it says that the differential (rear hub) and driveshaft must be removed as one unit. I see a grease seal at the entrance to the transmission with a message that any grease seals removed must be replaced. Question; on which end of the driveshaft are the splines lubed? Front or rear? Rear splines would require move disassembly. I would think the rear splines ride in the hypoid lube, no? Answers appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 2272400 ; Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:18:15 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:25:29 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: Harrison Spain <_spain@edsug.com>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Here are a couple of thoughts I had. On another motorcycle, I was told a shimmy can be caused by placement of accessories on the bike, such as a back rest and luggage rack. That would indicate more weight on the back and less on the front could cause a shimmy. Has anyone noticed this shimmy when loaded for a trip vs. empty? I just measured the tire pressures. 26 in the front, 29 in the rear. I recall a higher recommendation that than, but can't remember the specific numbers. I'm running K-177's. Scot '89 PC800 Venus ---------------- PILEWIS1 wrote: > > Piper, Scot A. wrote: > > > > > > > I do have a problem with the bike though. When slowing down, if I let > > go of the handlebars, I get a nasty shake out of the front end. I'm > > fairly certain it's the front tire that needs to be replaced. Looks > > like the original (K-177). But thought I'd ask for comments from the > > more experienced members on the list. > > > > I've had that same shimmy problem for a long time. It stopped briefly > after I put on a new set of K-177's, but it returned after a few > thousand miles. I imagine that constantly having the front wheel > balanced might correct the problem, but it's not really worth the > trouble. > > Anybody else with a fix....... > > Take care, > > Phil > > -- > ******************** > * * > * Phil Lewis * > * So-Cal * > * '90 PC * > * "Delta Red" * > * Enjoying The Ride! * > * * > ******************** > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Claude Hill" To: "HSTA List" , "List Mail PC800" Subject: PC800: PC800 Stock Seat still for SALE Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:25:54 -0500 Removed from my 1989 PC800 after 3,000 miles to make room for Corbin. Stock two piece seat for Pacific Coast. $90 + UPS from Music City USA. Email offers. Claude Hill Nashville, TN USA Email perfcomp@isdn.net Web http://www.biznet-tn.com/claude STOC#68 The Sobe GhoST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:42:51 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: well...deal me in! Well folks, I bought a '89 today with 45,786 miles on it. It was Andy Beal's (some of you might know him). He only rode it 891 miles while he owned it. It is fairly clean and runs good. It has been dropped a couple times (prior to Andy). The tool kit, shop manual (including the common shop manual), a trunk light, a passenger backrest, a honda tall windscreen, and an extra shoei helmet came with it. Andy even dropped it off at my house! Thanks, Andy!!! I haven't even ridden it yet. I've had one of the toughest weeks of my career this week and I was so zonked that I didn't feel I'd be safe out there. I spent the afternoon taking panels off and removing stickers, grease, tar, dirt, etc. It is looking nice. Tomorrow, after a good rest, I'm going to ride it down to Milpitas Honda and get an oil filter, oil, and maybe some other goodies. I had hoped to buy something a bit newer, but with the current budget (2 sons under age 4), etc., I figured I could ride this one for quite a while then look for something newer. At least I won't be worried about minor dings and scratches! Couple questions: 1. It has a fairly new K177 on the back and a mid-life ML2 on the front. Does it matter mixing these two tires? 2. What are the odds that I can find a new or used right front (from sitting on the bike) crash bar cover (and possibly some other panels)? The honda tall windscreen is fairly mirky/scratched (I have a rifle on order). The seat is ripped a bit but will hold me until I can ponder a corbin. Anyway, glad to be joining in the fun... -Guy ('89 with 0 miles of my own - until tomorrow!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:49:41 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: Re: Cycle Design... I spoke to Doug today and ordered his last 24" (tint w/black base). He has some clear 22" and 20"'s left but no 24" (clear or tint). He charged me $170.65 (note that it isn't a color matched one). The price included UPS shipping. There was no tax. He will get more in by the first week of September. He was very helpful. Rifle direct would have cost me $219.86. Cycle Design helped my pocketbook by $49.21! Hope this helps. -Guy >Philips, I just spoke to Jaima, Doug's right hand girl at Cycle Design. >Doug is out of town and you won't be able to reach him until the >beginning of next week. Jaima says the tax might be her fault. >When I checked with Doug a few weeks ago, he told me it was his >intention to sell the Rifle "stuff" he has in stock for the same price >as the original buy some months ago. The reason he has "stuff" in stock >is that he had to buy more than was ordered by the list in order to get >a good enough price from Rifle to give the PC listers the price he did. > >I've personally had dealings with Doug and he's a straight guy. I'm >sure the problem you are having is a simple mix-up. If not then I and >the list should be informed. He is very interested in making sales to >the list. He's one of the few dealers that recommends the PC to >customers. He buys all he can get. > >Please fax your concerns to him. >Tel 1-508-249-2244 >Tel 1-800-343-1374 >Fax 1-508-249-2109 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:27:25 -0400 There's been so much discussion about the shimmy problem I decided to see if I could make it happen on my bike ('95PC, 9,100 miles, original Dunlop K555 tires). I've never had it happen during normal riding (which for me means at least one hand on the bars at all times). Soooo, today I tried a gradual slow down from about 50 with no hands on the bars and after several tries, I got a pretty strong shimmy at about 37 mph. I could not consistently repeat it so I guess the right combination of events have to occur to invoke the "problem." At any rate, it seems to me the cure is described in the the classic slapstick routine that goes something like: Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." Doctor: "Then don't do that!." Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id COJ28008; Sat, 02 Aug 1997 02:03:33 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 01:59:23 -0400 Subject: PC800: new here, looking for PC From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) Hi gang, I'm looking for a PC and want a low mileage bike. I can't decide if a 89 or 90 with low mileages is a good deal ,as they are nearly 10 years old. 94 and up may be a bit pricey around here, not to mention, hard to find. Anyway, if anyone knows of a good PC for sale let me know. I'm selling my BMW to raise money for the new bike. Test rode a 94 and absolutely loved it. Does what a BMW should do!!! TIA Myles ***************************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---"You can lead a horse to water,but if you can get it to roll over & bark, you really have something!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russell C. Jackson" To: "'Rocky E Rocheux'" , "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:23:05 -0700 I might consider trying it, but I already have the thin plastic Vista cruise installed on my bike. It works well for me and it would be difficult for me to ride any distance without one since I have a slight case of CTS from typing on these dang keyboards all the time. Thanks, and you have a good weekend too. Rusty ===================================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer http://jackson.dyn.ml.org - rusty@san.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------- Extending the Enterprise with FormLogic by Wright Strategies, Inc. 600 B Street, 18th Floor San Diego, CA 92101-4590 619-702-0500 x124 619-702-0501 fax http://www.wrightstrat.com - rjackson@wrightstrat.com ===================================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux [SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 1997 5:40 PM To: rusty@san.rr.com Subject: Re: PC800: Rubber bands for Throttle Locks >IT STILL FAILS ME RUSTY, THAT NO ONE TRIED IT FOR ABOUT A NICKEL----YOU WANT TO TRY IT? THEY ARE EASILY REMOVED. MEANTIME MANY THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. HAVE A FUN WKEND. Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #18580) Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:51:42 CDT id FAA14729 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 02 Aug 1997 05:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 05:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: Rifle Fairing and tires To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In a message dated 97-08-01 08:17:46 EDT, Juan writes: << Also, the shield is fragile to pressure stress. I'd back those nuts out pronto, or you risk stress cracks radiating from all of the mounting holes (care to guess how I found out?) On mine they grew to about 1/4 inch, and have been growing verrrrry slowly after I releved some of the pressure, perhaps 1mm per yar or so. >> Hey Juan: Have you tried "stop drilling" those cracks? Just get the smallest bit you can find and drill a hole at the tip of the crack. It worked well for me on an old Windjammer shield many years ago. Stopped the cracks cold. You might want to give it a shot. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA07116 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:49 -0400 (EDT) To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Automobile vs Motorcycle Coolant In a message dated 97-07-31 08:19:13 EDT, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: << Since we also have Honda water pumps, maybe this is something to be careful about when it comes time to replace the coolant in our PCs. Just a thought. >> FWIW, I read that article and, while I am a bit from Missouri on the factual basis for it (though even the author admitted he had no proof), for the incremental cost of Honda Coolant every couple of years, I'll buy the Honda fluid... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #18580) Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:48:53 CDT id KAA18897 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 02 Aug 1997 10:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 10:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Vince: In a message dated 97-08-01 09:39:32 EDT, you write: << I changed my front springs to Progressive , new Metzlers, and correct air pressure and still have the shimmy at low speed >> When the new springs were installed, was the front preload adjusted for the proper ride height? That would be the only thing about new springs that would effect the low-speed wobble. Progressive springs without the right preload would make things worse because their initial rate is low. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA12602; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) To: deyoung@thecia.net, ScotP1965@mdn.net cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Shimmy? In a message dated 97-07-30 12:24:58 EDT, deyoung@thecia.net (Dennis Young) writes: << He told me that their is nothing wrong with the motorcycle and that some just do it, and that Honda recommends that you don't let go of the handlebars. >> You might have the steering head bearing preload checked. Many motorcycles are very sensitive to this and react as you describe when it is off. Actually, I have had motorcycles that react that way even when within factory tolerances, but won't do it at one point in the range. It just takes a little patience to get rid of it in most cases. FWIW, Honda use ball bearings in the steering heads which are more sensitive to this problem than tapered roller bearings so this shows up a lot in Hondas. Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA09797; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:45 -0400 (EDT) To: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Trunk Floor Mats In a message dated 97-07-29 22:46:05 EDT, PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com (PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567) writes: << Better grab the ones you want now, just incase. He is not sure how long body panels will be available, so maybe you should check with your dealers/parts suppliers on future availability. >> Under federal law, they must make parts (not accessories) available for at least 10 years. Since the PC is still a current model, the basic body panels must be available for 10 more years. You may not be able to get them in 1989 type colors, but even those should be available for at least two more years and beyond that from stock in distribution or dealers warehouses... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:39:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Joe Neisser Subject: PC800: NEW MEMBER HI ALL, MY NAME IS JOE NEISSER. I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I JUST BOUGHT A 1989 PC800 SETTING IN A GARAGE WITH 2900 MILES ON IT FOR $3200.00, AND IT EVEN HAS THE BACKREST. I LIVE IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND AND I DON'T SEE MANY PC800'S. IT IS A GREAT COMMUTER BIKE. I LOVE THE BIKE, BUT HATE THE WINDSHIELD. I GUESS I WILL WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER. TO ORDER ONE FROM CYCLE DESIGN'S, WHEN HE GETS MORE IN. THERE IS A PC800 FOR SALE IN THE PAPER THIS WEEKEND, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LOOKING. IT IS A 1986, WITH 4K MILES. IT HAS A BACKREST, AM/FM CASSETTE, NEVER BEEN DOWN. THE OWNERS LOWEST PRICE HE WILL TAKE IS $5500.00. ALL INTERESTED CALL 410-788-8071. JOE NEISSER 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russell C. Jackson" To: "'Joe Neisser'" , "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: NEW MEMBER Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:23:47 -0700 Hi Joe, welcome to the list and the PC800 group. Glad you found us. I hope you find lots of useful tips here, there are many knowledgeable people on this list. Again, welcome aboard, Rusty P.S. - Just thought I would let you know that typing in all caps is considered yelling in email. It is also a little more difficult to read. ===================================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer http://jackson.dyn.ml.org - rusty@san.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------- Extending the Enterprise with FormLogic by Wright Strategies, Inc. 600 B Street, 18th Floor San Diego, CA 92101-4590 619-702-0500 x124 619-702-0501 fax http://www.wrightstrat.com - rjackson@wrightstrat.com ===================================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Joe Neisser [SMTP:mda10@erols.com] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 1997 9:40 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: NEW MEMBER HI ALL, MY NAME IS JOE NEISSER. I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I JUST BOUGHT A 1989 PC800 SETTING IN A GARAGE WITH 2900 MILES ON IT FOR $3200.00, AND IT EVEN HAS THE BACKREST. I LIVE IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND AND I DON'T SEE MANY PC800'S. IT IS A GREAT COMMUTER BIKE. I LOVE THE BIKE, BUT HATE THE WINDSHIELD. I GUESS I WILL WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER. TO ORDER ONE FROM CYCLE DESIGN'S, WHEN HE GETS MORE IN. THERE IS A PC800 FOR SALE IN THE PAPER THIS WEEKEND, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LOOKING. IT IS A 1986, WITH 4K MILES. IT HAS A BACKREST, AM/FM CASSETTE, NEVER BEEN DOWN. THE OWNERS LOWEST PRICE HE WILL TAKE IS $5500.00. ALL INTERESTED CALL 410-788-8071. JOE NEISSER 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 13:40:31 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Joe Neisser CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER Joe Neisser wrote: > > HI ALL, MY NAME IS JOE NEISSER. I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I JUST BOUGHT > A 1989 > PC800... Well gang, seeing as how I usually end up offending someone at times like this, would any one else care to formulate a proper reply to Mr. Neisser?... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:16:05 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: loose shifter thingy I saw the earlier postings on a loose shifter so I checked my "new to me" PC800 and found the same problem. 169 plastic panels later, I tightened it. Made a nice difference. -Guy '89 PC800 with 34 miles of my own! -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:30:41 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:23:41 -0400 Ted, Good point but how do you adjust the front preload? Vince ---------- > When the new springs were installed, was the front preload adjusted for the > proper ride height? That would be the only thing about new springs that > would effect the low-speed wobble. Progressive springs without the right > preload would make things worse because their initial rate is low. > . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:38:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Myles B Lewis" Subject: Re: PC800: new here, looking for PC Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:31:33 -0400 Myles, 89 or 90 PC's with low mileage are a good deal assuming that they were taken care of properly. I have a 90 PC. The 90's are a little better than the 89's. since the 89's have been known to kave a problem with the original stators and rear tire rub with rear inner fender. I'm just down the road from you in Fort Myers. Maybe we can hook up together sometimes. Vince > I'm looking for a PC and want a low mileage bike. I can't decide > if a 89 or 90 with low mileages is a good deal ,as they are nearly 10 > years old. 94 and up may be a bit pricey around here, not to mention, > hard to find. Anyway, if anyone knows of a good PC for sale let me know. > I'm selling my BMW to raise money for the new bike. Test rode a 94 and > absolutely loved it. Does what a BMW should do!!! > TIA > > Myles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 3 Aug 1997 03:20:49 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Gary E. Klim" , "Joe Neisser" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:13:06 -0400 Go for it Gary. We need to liven up the list a little bit since Rocky has settled down ( with his rubbers and all). Vince > From: Gary E. Klim > To: Joe Neisser > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER > Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 1:40 PM > > Joe Neisser wrote: > > > > HI ALL, MY NAME IS JOE NEISSER. I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I JUST BOUGHT > > A 1989 > > PC800... > > Well gang, seeing as how I usually end up offending someone at times > like this, would any one else care to formulate a proper reply to Mr. > Neisser?... > > gk > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net > gklim@harman.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DsW21603; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:03 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:39:25 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Automobile vs Motorcycle Coolant From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:07:49 -0400 (EDT) TedJ101@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-07-31 08:19:13 EDT, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: > Since we also have Honda water pumps, maybe this is something to be careful > about when it comes time to replace the coolant in our PCs. Just a thought. Aha! I've been using Mobil 1. Is that why my bike keeps overheating? :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,510 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DsZ21603; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:03 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:51:05 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 13:40:31 -0400 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >Joe Neisser wrote: >> >> HI ALL, MY NAME IS JOE NEISSER. I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I JUST BOUGHT >> A 1989 PC800... > >Well gang, seeing as how I usually end up offending someone at timeslike this, >would any one else care to formulate a proper reply to Mr. Neisser?... No, Gary, no! Don't do it! Restrain yourself! Take the high road! :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,510 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DsY21603; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:03 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:48:30 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:16:05 -0700 Guy & Sonya writes: >I saw the earlier postings on a loose shifter so I checked my "new to me" PC800 and >found the same problem. 169 plastic panels later, I tightened it. Made a nice >difference. All right, gang. Everybody who saw the original post on the loose shifter and ran out to check their own...raise your hands! Mine's loose, and I got a socket on it, but it wouldn't tighten down. Hmmm.... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,510 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 06:56:30 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Timothy B Macy Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy Tim, My experience is that they all loosen. And it seems to take a couple tries to get it tight. You can get a socket on it with a long extension by way of the pop-off LH air vent. Unfortunately it takes a lot of force to get it to tighten but once it is, it stays tight. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA04369; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT) To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? In a message dated 97-08-02 16:38:52 EDT, vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) writes: << Ted, Good point but how do you adjust the front preload? Vince >> Vince, The general answer is that you apply the proper torque to the steering head bearing. The actual figure is another matter. There is a figure in the shop manual which is a good starting place (and, I suspect, the ending place in a lot of shops). I then test the actual force required to make the handle bars move from rest by hooking a fishing scale to the end of a handlebar with the front end of the bike propped up in the air. There is a spec for this figure in the shop manual (I haven't yet had to do this on the PC so I don't know what it is for the PC). I then test the bike on the road to see if it tests out OK. If it doesn't, I try to get closer to one end of the spec and try it over again. This can be on the tedious side, but I have had bikes which were very senstiive to the amount of steering preload and getting it right did make a difference... I hope this helps a bit ! Regards, -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:44:15 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Joe Neisser Subject: PC800: PC800 For Sale Correction The PC800 for sale I mentioned is not a 1986 it is a 1996. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for the tip on the caps about shouting. Joe 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA19949 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:48 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Hi Vince: In a message dated 97-08-02 13:32:03 EDT, you write: << Good point but how do you adjust the front preload? >> Basically, you do it by putting a spacer between the top of the spring and the spring cap. This increases the initial spring rate and adjusts the ride height at the front. It is the same thing as when you move the preload adjustment on the rear springs (on the PC it is just the left rear that has this adjuster). PVC pipe of the correct diameter works fine as spacer material. The size of the spacer determines the preload. It should be adjusted such that the front suspension with the normal load on board settles (or sags) by about 25% of the total suspension travel. Since the PC has a front suspension travel of 5.7", that would put the correct front sag at somewhere near 1.4". That is, the measurement from some fixed point on the steering head (like the bottom of the triple clamp) to the center of the axle should be 1.4" less with the normal load on the machine than it is when the front end is completely off the ground. The 25% (1.4") sag is only a general "rule-of-thumb" and might not be really what is needed for the PC. You might, for example, have to cut it down to 1" or even less to affect the wobble tendencies on your particular machine. The rear sag should be adjusted also. With 5.1" of travel the rear should sag about 1.25" with the normal load on board. If you can't achieve that with the adjustment available, then you need different springs on the back as well. Getting the ride height adjusted properly is a tedious process at best, but fortunately it doesn't have to be done often. And, of course, when you're all done, the front end may still oscillate during low-speed deceleration :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA13298 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:58 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Mileage drop Hi James: I doubt that it would explain much about the fuel smell, but one thing that can cut down on fuel mileage is a partially clogged air filter. Have you changed yours lately? Just a thought. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA04654 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:13:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Automobile vs Motorcycle Coolant Hi Tim: In a message dated 97-08-03 03:40:13 EDT, you write: << Aha! I've been using Mobil 1. Is that why my bike keeps overheating? :-}} >> Hmmm! I think you may be on to something here. The specific heat of oil is no where near that of water; so, that would explain everything. But the big question is, "is your water pump leaking?" If so, imagine what that could do to rear traction. Maybe those K555s weren't the problem after all:) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:06:35 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Timothy B Macy" Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 11:58:03 -0400 Tim, You gotta lean into it. Get out your 18" breaker bar. Vince > > Mine's loose, and I got a socket on it, but it wouldn't tighten down. > Hmmm.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NZJ03247; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 13:09:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:09:31 -0700 Subject: PC800: Portcall@aol.com: Garage Sale From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Portcall@aol.com To: Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: Garage Sale Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Hi All, Dottie and I are being transferred to Dallas from St. Louis and the bad news is that all of the bikes cannot make the trip. So, a really great PC is on the market. 1990 with 33,500 miles, I have owned the bike since new and it has always been garaged. All maintenance done by St. Louis Honda according to the factory manintenance schedule. Options include: tall windshield; custom pinstriping by "The Mountainman"; new Corbin seat; fresh tires; trunk bags; service manual and parts manual. A fair price would seem to be $4,500 with the J&M Audio Pak or $4,000 without. BTW the current MCN states average retail for stock bike is $4045. We can discuss the price and delivery arrangements. Give me a call during the day at 314-235-9559 or during the evening (before 9 - we are getting old) 314-832-4340 or e-mail direct to Portcall@aol.com. If anyone also belongs to the PC list, please forward this message. Thanks, Tom Powers --------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OqK20060; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:51:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ninja Motor & Sproing dreams. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:51:06 EDT Carolyn, my other half, being 58 years old and in sound mind in spite of it and having chosen to be a bit intimidated by the prospect of riding the PC and the 1400 Intruder and the Indian being out of question, bought herself a new 96 Kawasaki Eliminator ZL600 (which has the 600 Ninja motor). Get em Grandma! This whole rubber band business got to me so badly that I had a dream last night that I was sitting on the back porch reading a copy of Motorcyclist Magazine when an acorn hit me on the side of my face. I looked around and up my drive and down the street as far as I could see were men on P800s of every color with acorns grasped in stretched rubber band slingshots taking aim on me. I began to plead that the whole rubber band throttle traction device got started when I arrived at a small grocery store near Richmond ,Virginia having driven straight through from Wilmington NC. In that little place my arm ached and my hand was numb and tingling and I was desperate to continue on to my home in Fairfax, VA. The thought of rubber bands to go on the throttle occured and the kindly old woman at the cash register gave me three or four of them and as I rode along away from Richmond, I gave thanks to Zeus the god of fasteners, that this rinky dink method had worked for me. I was able to continue on home without the slightest sensation of ache, tingle or pain that I had had all the way from Wilmington to Richmond. The latter story is true, the dream story about the acorns is not. He He. With this I will now shut uppa my face about the rubber bands. Adieu! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id P|U20060; Sun, 03 Aug 1997 15:25:22 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Cc: garyklim@snet.net, mda10@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 15:25:22 EDT On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:13:06 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >Go for it Gary. We need to liven up the list a little bit since Rocky >has >settled down ( with his rubbers and all). Vince >At 3PM EST ON this date Rocky was arrested and taken to jail for shooting acorns at the police with a rubber band slingshot while riding his PC in his grandmother's wedding dress. He will be arraigned on charges of assault with a ready rubber on Monday next. He might be up the river for a very long time. Signed, Snark McDuff, Rocky's mouthpiece. He will be at nuthouse@rubber.com and quite lonely. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA16341 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:12:04 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Windscreen I want more protection from wind noise than my stock '94 windshield provides. I previously used a Lockhart wind spoiler: about a foot long, 2 inches tall that I stuck to the top of the windshield. It deflected the wind above the top of my helmet. It was cheap and effective, however, I've looked extensively for it, even called Lockhart, and apparently the item has been discontinued. Anyone know where I can still get one? Failing that, I'll have to get a Rifle windscreen. The tall Honda is too tall: I don't want to look through the windshield. I'm 5' 7" and look about 2-3 inches over the top of the existing screen, maybe a bit more. Should I get the Rifle +2" screen? Does anyone have one of these? I hope someone can help. Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Jason L Tibbitts III" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Attention Network Marketers Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:49:31 -0400 I keep madding them it the email filter...but everyday its a new one...too..... I know we should subscribe their mail list to our newslist then they will get lot's of boring email about motorcycling, that will rerally confuse them...they'll have no clue....so if we Spam the spammmers.......it will lock up their mailbox....yeah tahts the ticket...hahahhahaha fireman joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:07:28 GMT Checked my shifter thing and it was loose too. Removed the crash bar cover and stuck a socket on a universal joint to tighten it. Now its tight and shifts much move responsively. Is this a case where the prescribed torque wrench settings are too low for this bolt? We all seem to have the same problem. Weird. ]Monty[ 89 PC (Boy, women sure like this bike. I've had quite a few stop me in the parking lot to tell me how pretty it is. Actually, I've had a few guys say the same thing (once at a stop light), so maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:11:15 GMT I'm going to ask this one more time. Does anyone know of any rubber guards for the crash bar "bumps" on the PC? Or anything to protect them from an occasional scratch? They stick out and when the bike gets knocked over, it wouldn't scratch up the crash bar panel. I knocked mine over being clumsy and want some protection for my bike from klutzy people like me. ]Monty[ '89 PC 16K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:29:38 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Rocky E Rocheux" Subject: Re: PC800: Ninja Motor & Sproing dreams. Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:39:53 -0400 Rocky, Congrats to Carolyn on her new bike. She must be reading my mind because I was just looking at the same bike. I expect a full report on the bike after you have a chance to put a few miles on her. I understand that the 600 will walk the dog. Vince > Carolyn, my other half, being 58 years old and in sound mind in spite of > it and having chosen to be a bit intimidated by the prospect of riding > the PC and the 1400 Intruder and the Indian being out of question, bought > herself a new 96 Kawasaki Eliminator ZL600 (which has the 600 Ninja > motor). Get em Grandma! > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:29:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Windscreen Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:43:59 -0400 Jeff, I have the +2 on my 1990 PC with the Corbin seat and it is too tall for me at 5'11". I am trying to get up the nerve to remove 2" from the top of it. Vince ---------- > Failing that, I'll have to get a Rifle windscreen. The tall Honda > is too tall: I don't want to look through the windshield. I'm 5' 7" > and look about 2-3 inches over the top of the existing screen, > maybe a bit more. Should I get the Rifle +2" screen? Does anyone > have one of these? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:38:09 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:31:16 -0400 Monty, I have never heard of rubber guards for the crash bars. I do know one 72 year old man who took the plastic guards off and left them off because he kept dropping his bike. He dropped/crashed it four times on our trip to the Panama Canal. We finally made him quit ridding it and put it on the trailer in Costa Rica. He just about crashed every panel on his PC. It looked like hell but kept on ticking. All the other riders were impressed with how tough the PC was. He was going to try to get his insurance company in the states to cover his repair bill. I never did hear if he got away with it. Vince ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Monty Shaw To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 5:11 PM I'm going to ask this one more time. Does anyone know of any rubber guards for the crash bar "bumps" on the PC? Or anything to protect them from an occasional scratch? They stick out and when the bike gets knocked over, it wouldn't scratch up the crash bar panel. I knocked mine over being clumsy and want some protection for my bike from klutzy people like me. ]Monty[ '89 PC 16K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:46:24 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: mashaw@mindspring.com CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Monty Shaw wrote: > I'm going to ask this one more time. > > Does anyone know of any rubber guards for the crash bar > "bumps" on the PC? Or anything to protect them from an > occasional scratch? They stick out and when the bike gets > knocked over, it wouldn't scratch up the crash bar panel. I > knocked mine over being clumsy and want some protection for > my bike from klutzy people like me. > > ]Monty[ > '89 PC 16K At a guess, you should be ablle to get side guard moldings from an auto supply store in whatever colors and width you think will work best. Alan 95 PC800 Midnight (it) Long Beach, CA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:53:55 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: mashaw@mindspring.com CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy Monty Shaw wrote: > Checked my shifter thing and it was loose too. Removed the > crash bar cover and stuck a socket on a universal joint to > tighten it. Now its tight and shifts much move responsively. > Is this a case where the prescribed torque wrench settings > are too low for this bolt? We all seem to have the same > problem. Weird. > > ]Monty[ > 89 PC it's a spline clamp. As long as it's on the shaft, it will work, ant the bolt won't faqll out if it's not tight. The torque spec is for the bolt itself, after the spring tension is out of the clamp. Generous use of loctite is also a good idea to lubricate during tightening, and keep things from loosening after. > Alan Taylor 95 PC800 MidnightLong Beach, CA > > > (Boy, women sure like this bike. I've had quite a few stop > me in the parking lot to tell me how pretty it is. Actually, > I've had a few guys say the same thing (once at a stop > light), so maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.) > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:21:26 -0700 (MST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Randy D. Bailey" Subject: PC800: Body Panel Anyone know what the left side body panel (that has the hole for the screened vent) costs for an '89? Can you get them from Honda already painted or are they shipped ready to paint? ============================================================== Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 Chandler, AZ USA 85226 DoD #1661 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Trailer info. Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 04:36:00 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Greetings PC 800 riders, I'm trying to find a trailer/trailer hitch that will work on my PC. I've had no luck with the hitch. Would like to build a trailer, but cannot find any GOOD construction plans. If anybody could help, please forward. Thanks! James Geist Lubbock, Tx. Jgeist.lubtx@door.net 1990 PC800 Bought used No modifications (yet) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BobS17@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA17773; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:31:34 -0400 (EDT) To: myleslewis@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: new here, looking for PC from the Nashville, TN., Tennessean newspaper, Monday August 4, 1997: HONDA - '90 Pacific Coast, 6200 mi, new dunlop tires, lots of extras, red & silver, $4500. (615)299-8223, lv msg. hope this helps...bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:06:03 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Jgeist Lubtx" , Subject: Re: PC800: Trailer info. Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:59:04 -0400 Bushtec (423) 562-9900 use to make hitches for the PC. Also there are pictures of hitches via the PC home page. Vince ---------- > > Greetings PC 800 riders, > I'm trying to find a trailer/trailer hitch that will work on my > PC. I've had no luck with the hitch. Would like to build a trailer, but > cannot find any GOOD construction plans. If anybody could help, please > forward. Thanks! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:07:15 -0400 (EDT) To: Timothy B Macy Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Timothy B Macy wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:16:05 -0700 Guy & Sonya writes: > >I saw the earlier postings on a loose shifter so I checked my "new to > me" PC800 and >found the same problem. 169 plastic panels later, I > tightened it. Made a nice >difference. > > All right, gang. Everybody who saw the original post on the loose shifter > and ran out to check their own...raise your hands! > > Mine's loose, and I got a socket on it, but it wouldn't tighten down. > Hmmm.... > My hands up! I had about a quarter inch play in my shifter. Tightened her up a half turn. Nice a snug now...and me?...feeling so smug and accomplished! My first maintenance task. Frank Cook PC800 - a bike with no name. 9985 miles, 1990. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id KAS10979; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 10:30:11 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mashaw@mindspring.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:10:21 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar bumpers From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I just ordered a scuff pad set from my dealer for the PC. I'll let you know if it has a crash bar protector in it's packaging. Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and little if any humidity. Southern California, what a great place to live!! On Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:11:15 GMT mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) writes: >I'm going to ask this one more time. > >Does anyone know of any rubber guards for the crash bar >"bumps" on the PC? Or anything to protect them from an >occasional scratch? They stick out and when the bike gets >knocked over, it wouldn't scratch up the crash bar panel. I >knocked mine over being clumsy and want some protection for >my bike from klutzy people like me. > >]Monty[ >'89 PC 16K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id KAT10979; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 10:30:11 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JeffHamltn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:11:32 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Windscreen From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) Jeff, have you tried Saeng Stealth edging and or their Winglets. The edging wraps around the edge of your windshield and the winglet is a clear plastic strip that you can attach above the top of your windshield. I use the edging and it works real well. it gives me about 3 more inches of wind protection. If I remember correctly they do have a website. I can't seem to remember but the list may have it! Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and little if any humidity. Southern Californi, what a great place to live!! On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:12:04 -0400 (EDT) JeffHamltn@aol.com writes: >I want more protection from wind noise than my stock '94 >windshield provides. I previously used a Lockhart wind >spoiler: about a foot long, 2 inches tall that I stuck to the >top of the windshield. It deflected the wind above the top >of my helmet. It was cheap and effective, however, I've looked >extensively for it, even called Lockhart, and apparently the >item has been discontinued. Anyone know where I can still >get one? > >Failing that, I'll have to get a Rifle windscreen. The tall Honda >is too tall: I don't want to look through the windshield. I'm 5' 7" >and look about 2-3 inches over the top of the existing screen, >maybe a bit more. Should I get the Rifle +2" screen? Does anyone >have one of these? > >I hope someone can help. Jeff > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:25:53 -0400 From: Jason Grant To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy When I got my 1994 PC (a month or so ago) I found the shifter had play both vertically and horizontally. It would slide untill the limit of the bolt if you tugged it even lightly. Since I'm tall and have fairly large feet (Size 13) I found that raising the shifter allowed for a much more enjoyable ride. I just tighened it adequately at the same time. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:42:42 -0400 To: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >I just ordered a scuff pad set from my dealer for the PC. I'll let you >know if it has a crash bar protector in it's packaging. > > Sammy D >> Sammy D...The scuff pad set does not have any pieces for the crash bars. And if it did, the protection would be nominal. The scuff pad set is basically a clear sticker. fsl :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 12:43:03, -0500 To: aryehk@mail.netvision.net.il, lichak@inter.net.il, bobblum1@prodigy.net, rmalone@vnet.ibm.com, vision.technology.solutions@mindspring.com, yb3165@sunams.usma.army.mil, CLYDEROMERO@prodigy.net, David22730@aol.com, dchamann@GaPac.com, NiFox@aol.com, SteadmanAC00.CS10.USAFA@usafa.af.mil, UPFS@aol.com, Gale.E.Sights@scsnet.com, herbert_kopal@de.ibm.com, JameyF@juniornet.com, Perry@boston.k12.ma.us, 104334.1667@compuserve.com, JFred@Bellsouth.net, cleojohn@mindspring.com, hensen@de.ibm.com, x01377@exmail.usma.army.mil, 103266.2275@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Stephanie.Kenitzer@noaa.gov, zimint@ix.netcom.com, TFrank8176@aol.com, Werner.Dreyer@t-online.de, Wincel.A.Kenitzer.1@gsfc.nasa.gov, WKOERNE@IBM.NET Subject: PC800: Iron Insides! NAVAL HISTORY - WOODEN SHIPS AND IRON MEN.] Not much has changed in the last 150 years. The following is from a tale related by the chief curator of the National Park Service, and printed in no less an authoritative source than Oceanographic Ships, Fore and Aft, published by the Oceanographer of the Navy. It has to do with a cruise of the 204-foot frigate USS Constitution commonly known as Old Ironsides, in 1779. We quote: "On 23 August 1779, the USS Constitution set sail from Boston loaded with 476 officers and men, 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass English shipping. On 6 October, she made Jamaica, took on 826 pounds of flour and 68, 300 gallons of rum. Three weeks later the Constitution reached the Azores, where she provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 6,300 gallons of Portuguese wine. On 18 November, the ship set sail for England where her crew captured and scuttled 12 English merchant vessels and took aboard their rum. But the Constitution had run out of shot. Nevertheless, she made her way unarmed up the Firth of Clyde for a night raid. Here her landing party captured a whiskey distillery, transferred 40,000 gallons aboard and headed for home. On 20 February 1780, the Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot, no food, no powder, no rum, no whisky. Just 48,600 gallons of water." ANALYSIS: Length of Cruise -- 181 Days Booze Consumption -- 2.26 gallons/man/day (plus whatever they rescued from the 12 English merchant ships) Guestimated Re-Enlistment Rate -- 100% Probable EPA Award of Gold Certificate for Water Consumption ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com TO: LMQJ12A CC: NVXL62A -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:19:03 -0700 "PC800: well...deal me in!" (Aug 1, 7:42pm) To: Guy & Sonya , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: well...deal me in! Alright Guy!! You will greatly enjoy this little scoot. I just recently put a Rifle on Erin's P.C. and WOW! what a difference over the starndard stocker! I liked it so much that I'm going to order a Rifle for my Kawi Concours. Great product **and** easy to install. Good luck with the new baby ;-). BTW, let me know what you think of Milpitas Honda's service center. I'm thinking of taking my '81 CB-750C down there for a set of fork seals and would like to know what you think of them. Cheers, Ramin On Aug 1, 7:42pm, Guy & Sonya wrote: > Subject: PC800: well...deal me in! > Well folks, I bought a '89 today with 45,786 miles on it. It was Andy > Beal's (some of you might know him). He only rode it 891 miles while he > owned it. It is fairly clean and runs good. It has been dropped a couple > times (prior to Andy). The tool kit, shop manual (including the common > shop manual), a trunk light, a passenger backrest, a honda tall windscreen, > and an extra shoei helmet came with it. Andy even dropped it off at my > house! Thanks, Andy!!! > > I haven't even ridden it yet. I've had one of the toughest weeks of my > career this week and I was so zonked that I didn't feel I'd be safe out > there. I spent the afternoon taking panels off and removing stickers, > grease, tar, dirt, etc. It is looking nice. Tomorrow, after a good rest, > I'm going to ride it down to Milpitas Honda and get an oil filter, oil, and > maybe some other goodies. > > I had hoped to buy something a bit newer, but with the current budget (2 > sons under age 4), etc., I figured I could ride this one for quite a while > then look for something newer. At least I won't be worried about minor > dings and scratches! > > Couple questions: > > 1. It has a fairly new K177 on the back and a mid-life ML2 on the front. > Does it matter mixing these two tires? > > 2. What are the odds that I can find a new or used right front (from > sitting on the bike) crash bar cover (and possibly some other panels)? > > The honda tall windscreen is fairly mirky/scratched (I have a rifle on > order). The seat is ripped a bit but will hold me until I can ponder a > corbin. > > Anyway, glad to be joining in the fun... > > -Guy ('89 with 0 miles of my own - until tomorrow!) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Guy & Sonya -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:22:10 -0700 "Re: PC800: shimmy?" (Aug 1, 11:27pm) To: Jim Randall , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? Hey all: On Aug 1, 11:27pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: shimmy? > There's been so much discussion about the shimmy problem I decided > to see if I could make it happen on my bike ('95PC, 9,100 miles, original > Dunlop K555 tires). I've never had it happen during normal riding (which > for me means at least one hand on the bars at all times). Soooo, today > I tried a gradual slow down from about 50 with no hands on the bars and > after several tries, I got a pretty strong shimmy at about 37 mph. I could > not consistently repeat it so I guess the right combination of events have > to occur to invoke the "problem." Is it possible that the deceleration wobble you're feeling is caused by steering head bearings that need to be tightened (a common problem with the Kawi Concours. The deceleration wobble is right at 40mph)? At any rate, it seems to me the cure is > described in the the classic slapstick routine that goes something like: > > Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." > Doctor: "Then don't do that!." > HEY!!! That's my line!! ;-) Ramin -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:23:31 -0700 "PC800: new here, looking for PC" (Aug 2, 1:59am) To: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: new here, looking for PC On Aug 2, 1:59am, Myles B Lewis wrote: >"You can lead a horse to water,but if > you can get it to roll over & bark, you really have something!" > -- I'm not even going to ask ;-). Ramin -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:32:36 -0700 "Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER" (Aug 3, 3:25pm) To: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux), vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER Cc: garyklim@snet.net, mda10@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Aug 3, 3:25pm, Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: NEW MEMBER > > On Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:13:06 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" > writes: > >At 3PM EST ON this date Rocky was arrested and taken to jail for > shooting acorns at the police with a rubber band slingshot while riding > his PC in his grandmother's wedding dress. He will be arraigned on > charges of assault with a ready rubber on Monday next. He might be up > the river for a very long time. Signed, Snark McDuff, Rocky's > mouthpiece. He will be at nuthouse@rubber.com and quite lonely. NO! ROCKY!! Why'd you do it man!?!? What were you thinking?! Did you think you'd get away with it?!?! Oh the tragedy of it all!!! ;) BTW, does you grandma know you borrowed her dress?! Shame on you man!!! ;) -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:46:52 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Crash bar bumpers To: chargerblue@juno.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 I have the scuff pad set, and there are no crash bar pieces. The scuff pad set is to protect mostly top and side panel areas that your passenger might rub against. There are no tank area pieces for the driver. Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mskrocki@meldrum.com Date: Mon, 04 Aug 97 15:25:11 est To: SABMAG@MITVMA.MIT.EDU, st1100@st1100.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Nady Intercom Does anyone on the list have any experience with the Nady PRC-9 communicators? I have a chance to purchase a set new in the box at a substantial discount over mail-order. Unfortunately, all the information that I have doesn't give a range or frequency used. Any help would be appreciated, and TIA. Enjoy the ride. Mark Skrocki Sandra & Mark Skrocki 89 PC800 "Jackson" hers / 85 VF1100S "Almighty Aphrodite" his Shaker Hts., OH mskrocki@meldrum.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'mashaw@mindspring.com'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Crash bar bumpers Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:29:27 -0400 Wellllll, I don't know of any accessory specifically made for this purpose; but, it shouldn't be too hard to fabricate some rubber pads and glue them on. You might want to visit your local industrial rubber supplier (hoses, belts, vibration dampers, etc). If you have some idea of what you want, they probably have rubber parts which could be cut to work. I found some GREAT glue for this sort of thing the other day. It's called GOOP Automotive and after it's dry, it holds on like, well, like glue :-) ,,, Got my GOOP at Wal-Mart. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Monty Shaw [SMTP:mashaw@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 1997 5:11 PM To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Crash bar bumpers I'm going to ask this one more time. Does anyone know of any rubber guards for the crash bar "bumps" on the PC? Or anything to protect them from an occasional scratch? They stick out and when the bike gets knocked over, it wouldn't scratch up the crash bar panel. I knocked mine over being clumsy and want some protection for my bike from klutzy people like me. ]Monty[ '89 PC 16K -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 16:22:06 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Honda Sport Touring Association , PC800 mail list Subject: PC800: Re: Ride For Kids... Harriman NY > > The RFK in Harriman Aug. 3rd was a Success. The total raised for the > day > was $68,0000 + !!! That's up from $43K last year and $30k the year > before. > > For a total of >$5 million raised by *motorcyclists* since the > foundations inception. 1996 produced $902,000 with 13 events... 1997 > will > have 14 events with the newest being added in Phoenix in November (1st > weekend, I think),,,,, already in excess of $700K.... The foundation > is > now the #ONE source of private funding for Brain Tumor Research, and > the > primary source of funding for the Brain Tumor Registry. > > AllState Insurance has come onboard as an event sponsor, and First USA > Bank has made an endowment contribution of $250K!! > > Since PBTF was founded the life expectancy for brain tumor patients > has > more than tripled... rising from 5 months to 18. < You've got to meet > one of these kids!!> > > One of the PBTF funded scientists has discovered a genetic marker in > glioma that physicians can now use to gauge the urgency and intensity > of > treatment... the overflow is that it also pertains to other cancers as > well.... > > All this because Motorcyclists care!!! Thank You ALL!!!!! I am proud > to > be one of you!! > > BTW. 1998 there will be at least 15 events. The 15th WILL be in NEW > ENGLAND.... Date/place TBD... > > If you're interested in helping... email me, I'll be in touch!! > Bill McKenna -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:02:56 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: mskrocki@meldrum.com CC: SABMAG@MITVMA.MIT.EDU, st1100@st1100.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Nady Intercom mskrocki@meldrum.com wrote: > Does anyone on the list have any experience with the Nady PRC-9 > communicators? > > I have a chance to purchase a set new in the box at a substantial > discount over > mail-order. > > Unfortunately, all the information that I have doesn't give a range or > frequency > used. > > Any help would be appreciated, and TIA. > > Enjoy the ride. > > Mark Skrocki Mark, My advice is to avoid Nady. The Nady set I had (not PRC-9) had a lot of trouble with static, even at low speeds and inside full face helmets. To compound the problem I sent the units to Nady twice, and they were never able to resolve the problem. It took them 2 months each time to return the units, and the second time they had been damaged while in Nady's possession. Even if the product were OK I would still avoid Nady like the plague. Eric -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: Hiway pegs for PC800 - web sites Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:52:16 -0400 Both Phil Lewis and Gerard Diepeveen were kind enough to post web pages = detailing the hiway pegs project on the PC. Phil's URL is = www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/INDEX.HTM. Gerard placed the page = on the Pacific Coast Netherlands site at dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800-pegs.htm and = converted the large images into thumbnails to speed up the load (the = full images can be viewed by clicking on the the thumbnails. Same info = both places but depending on your location you may experience differing = response time WARNING: there are lots of images on these pages. It WILL = take a while to display over a modem connection. My thanks to both Phil and Gerard for their help in sharing this info = with the group.=20 Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:18:30 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:07:53 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: Eliminator 600 for Sale I've noticed some interest in the Kawasaki Eliminator on the list. My wife has one we bought new in June '96. She wants to buy a BMW R850R (yeah, I know. eeccchhh). I told her we have to sell the Kaw first. Picture can be seen here: http://hhd.csun.edu/john/ Vitals: 1996 Kawasaki Eliminator 600cc, 4cyl, Liquid Cooled Kawasaki Factory Warranty until 2001 3000 miles 600 mile service ($300+) was performed Soft Luggage and Windscreen included Garaged Price: Whatever our payoff is. ($4900 this month) We'll probably drop the price by around $100 month till we sell it. Or till I decide it's worth more to us as a spare bike. I realize this is around retail price, but we will not sell for less than the payoff. Kolbe in Woodland Hills just took a Black one in as a trade. They are asking the same price, without luggage ($150), windscreeen ($60), and Warranty ($650). Not sure if the first service was done. We live in Reseda CA (Los Angeles County). If you want to see/ride/buy, drop one of us an email. pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (or reply for me) gale.lafreniere@csun.edu (to talk to the person who put 2950 of the 3K) Thanks.... John L http://hhd.csun.edu/john -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Randy Ashurst" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 Backrest Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:34:05 -0400 Recently, the seatback rest (Hondaline) broke off of my Pacific Coast. I'm searching the web to get another one especially a used one. I'd need the side rails too. Mine broke off right at the welds on the side rails. I got another email from a HSTA PC800 rider who noted his had broken off as well. I wonder if this is a potential REAL problem with the way they were tackwelded on by Honda. Maybe there's others who've had the same problem. Let me know. Anyway if you know if a seatback even on a wrecked one tell me. Thanks, Randy Ashurst, Brunswick, GA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:02:06 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Nady Intercom To: mskrocki@meldrum.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 >Does anyone on the list have any experience with the Nady PRC-9 communicators? > >I have a chance to purchase a set new in the box at a substantial discount over >mail-order. > >Unfortunately, all the information that I have doesn't give a range or frequency >used. > >Any help would be appreciated, and TIA. > >Enjoy the ride. > >Mark Skrocki Mark, Not sure exactly about the PRC-9 model, but most of the cycle communicators work on the 49Mhz band on one of the 10 frequencies assigned to the kids walkie-talkies and baby monitors. Any other frequency would require a licence and periodic call sign identification (during your conversations) to use legally. Since the Family Radio Service has been enacted this year, some additional frequencies in the 464Mhz band could be used by these cycle communicators, but as this is receint, most manufacturers have mostlikely not moved to this area. You should be able to expect about .5 mile of deciently clean communications since the units all use FM modulation, but since the antennas are no more than 6 feet above the earth, it might be a stretch to expect more range since large vehicles (semi's, motorhomes, etc.) will block your signal. I have had good luck with the Maxon units, except when traveling through large cities, where I get a lot of interference from people with baby monitors in their homes (sometimes interesting to listen to!). These things transmit 100% of the day as long as they are plugged in, since the part in the baby's room does not have an on/off switch. This makes talking to your buddies as you travel more irritating especially if they are seperated from you more than .25 mile, since FM has a tendency to lock onto the strongest signal on the frequency you are operating on. Although more difficult to use, due to the extra wiring involved, I prefer using a HAM or CB radio instead (Of course you have to have an Amateur Licence to use the HAM radio). Since using either of these radio's gives you the oppertunity to tune around to find an unused channel to work on, it is the better choice. Most of the cycle communicatior/intercoms are single frequency only, so you are stuck with any other activity on your channel. Regards, Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-35086U200L2S100) with SMTP id ABE175; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:50:37 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Extractor@t-1net.com (Todd Farmer) To: extractor@t-1net.com Subject: PC800: Never Pay for Advertising Again. Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:50:37 -0500 Since you are doing business on the 'net, you know that properly targeting your advertising messages can be pretty tough. And banner ads are still way too expensive Instead of paying for "impressions" to a general audience, wouldn't you rather know that you sent your message directly to the appropriate audience? US World News & Reports came out with an article on Monday May 12, 1997 finding that "70% of Internet users don't mind receiving commercial email messages - as long as they are targeted to their personal interests" I found that you are doing business on the net by using "Extractor PRO" commercial email software. You, too, can send commercial e-mail to those who are interested in what you have to offer, whatever it is - and it's so inexpensive! Once you own the software, you can build your very own Highly Targeted Mailing List, then send your ad out to your targeted mailing list at the push of a button. "You may never have to pay for other forms of advertising again!" "HotWired" Magazine says, "Extractor Pro simplifies the process of gathering and managing email addresses from AOL, Usenet, mailing lists, and other public sources." Feb. 11, 1997 Extractor PRO is loaded with targeting power, high-speed, a user-friendly feel, Online Wizards, Smart Help and Awesome Video Training via "CyberSchool". No other commercial email software is as easy to use and understand. Extractor PRO really makes advertising economical. Just check out the website - you'll be impressed! With your order before May 23, 1997 you'll also receive a free website submission service, World Launch - we'll submit your website to over 200 of the hottest search engines, and also offer you 2000 Free Classified Sites AND Free powerful tips to get your site noticed by the search engines! ($40 value) For more information, simply point your WebBrowser to: http://www.e-offers.com Thank you for your time. ------------------ To be removed from this business list, simply reply to this message with the word, "Remove" in the subject heading, and Extractor PRO will automatically remove you from the list. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VFQ05696; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: crazyapple@ibm.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT I am quite short and of course have feet to scale. When I got my 96 the shifter was also way too low for me. I adjusted it up and cinched it down and it stays nicely put. > >Since I'm tall and have fairly large feet (Size 13) I found that >raising >the shifter allowed for a much more enjoyable ride. I just tighened >it >adequately at the same time. > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VFR05696; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: wanda_bailie@smtpgw.kentrox.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: MAT7 glue and Grandma practices. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT Thanks, Wanda. Carolyn went riding again tonite in the H.S. parking lot for another half hour on her new ZL600 Kaw. I am sure she will be ready to take the test later this week per her plan. Then it will be on the street. We really think it best for her to stay off the street with no MC endorsement and of course, the insurance won't cover us if she wrecks it or hurts someone as she is considered an unlicensed driver. This is an exciting week what with my antique Indian possibly being ready to come home Wednesday as well. Thanx 4 your response (maybe you should not encourage me). §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ MAT7 glue had been suggested to me for the broken off body tab. The man who took my order said not only will it make an extremely strong bond to hold the tab on my PC800 (which Coleman Powersport svc dept broke off), but that you can mold with it and actually replace things like if I had lost the tab or whatever. This tab I refer to supports the small plastic piece that goes above and in front of the radiator and clings to the two side pieces. On Mon, 04 Aug 97 11:39:18 PST "Wanda Bailie" writes: > I loved it.......keep it up. We all need a good laugh sometimes. > Wanda Bailie "95 PC800 "Black Beauty" > > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VFS05696; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Eliminator 600 for Sale From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:57 EDT I think we got a good deal on our Eliminator 600. We paid $5200 plus tax . Everyone wanted $6200 for 96s and of course so did Coleman Powersport. One guy would give me $400 off he said. THIS SURE AS HELL makes up for the $8400 I pd for the 96 PC800 last April. Some guy wrote and asked a bunch of stuff about the Elim and I did some praising. I said nothing negative about it but forgot that the seat can be uncomfy at times. Like pcrider's idea I kept the 86 Elim I had for a spare bike. I had traded it on the new 89 Harley Springer (one Saturday) at that time, but missed it as a little errand bike and bought it back from the dealer the next Monday. He just smiled when I handed him the money :) Later all. On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:07:53 -0700 pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) writes: >I've noticed some interest in the Kawasaki Eliminator on the list. My >wife > >1996 Kawasaki Eliminator >600cc, 4cyl, Liquid Cooled >Kawasaki Factory Warranty until 2001 >3000 miles >600 mile service ($300+) was performed >Soft Luggage and Windscreen included >Garaged > >Price: Whatever our payoff is. ($4900 this month) We'll probably >drop the>John L >http://hhd.csun.edu/john >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VFU05696; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:58 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ashurst@gate.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Backrest From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:08:58 EDT NOW Randy you have me scared. I mounted a 13 inch high backrest on the same mounting. I got the plan from Mickeymatt in Pittsburgh PA. He is on this net. 1- Please tell me the years of the 2 bikes that suffered the fracture and then let me ask -2-did you or the other guy notice any cracks or was there any rust there??? Please write back Randy & anyone who has heard of this. Oh dear. Just when things were looking up. :( To find a used one you can look in the back of motorcycle magazines and there is one m/c junkyard after another in those display classifieds or whatever they are. By the way, if your used one broke, why not get a new one??? Or if you get a used one --or for that matter a new one, perhaps have it rewelded or otherwise toughened up???? No ? Gnite. On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:34:05 -0400 "Randy Ashurst" writes: >Recently, the seatback rest (Hondaline) broke off of my Pacific Coast. > I'm >searching the web to get another one especially a used one. I'd need >the >side rails too. Mine broke off right at the welds on the side rails. >I >got another email from a HSTA PC800 rider who noted his had broken off >as >well. I wonder if this is a potential REAL problem with the way they >were >tackwelded on by Honda. Maybe there's others who've had the same >problem. >Let me know. Anyway if you know if a seatback even on a wrecked one >tell >me. Thanks, Randy Ashurst, Brunswick, GA > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 18:27:14 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: Todd Farmer , pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Never Pay for Advertising Again. Todd-O, If you'd bother to check what your software is doing, you'd realize that you've sent your spam to a non-commercial list server. Here's a finding for you. 100% of people on the net _hate_ unsolicited spam from morons trying to make a buck. Here's another finding. Unsolicited e-mail may be a violation of Federal and State law. Wouldn't you rather not be involved in protracted litigation??? Todd Farmer wrote: > Since you are doing business on the 'net, you know that properly > targeting your advertising messages can be pretty tough. And banner > ads are still way too expensive > > Instead of paying for "impressions" to a general audience, wouldn't > you rather know that you sent your message directly to the appropriate > > audience? > > US World News & Reports came out with an article on Monday May 12, > 1997 finding that "70% of Internet users don't mind receiving > commercial email messages - as long as they are targeted to their > personal interests" > > I found that you are doing business on the net by using "Extractor > PRO" commercial email software. You, too, can send commercial > e-mail to those who are interested in what you have to offer, > whatever it is - and it's so inexpensive! > > Once you own the software, you can build your very own Highly Targeted > > Mailing List, then send your ad out to your targeted mailing list at > the push > of a button. > > "You may never have to pay for other forms of advertising again!" > > "HotWired" Magazine says, "Extractor Pro simplifies the process of > gathering and managing email addresses from AOL, Usenet, mailing > lists, and other public sources." Feb. 11, 1997 > > Extractor PRO is loaded with targeting power, high-speed, a > user-friendly feel, Online Wizards, Smart Help and Awesome Video > Training via "CyberSchool". No other commercial email software is as > easy to use and understand. Extractor PRO really makes advertising > economical. > > Just check out the website - you'll be impressed! With your order > before May 23, 1997 you'll also receive a free website submission > service, World Launch - we'll submit your website to over 200 of the > hottest search engines, and also offer you 2000 Free Classified Sites > AND Free powerful tips to get your site noticed by the search engines! > > ($40 value) > > For more information, simply point your WebBrowser to: > http://www.e-offers.com > > Thank you for your time. > > ------------------ > To be removed from this business list, simply reply to this message > with the word, "Remove" in the subject heading, and Extractor PRO will > > automatically remove you from the list. > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'ashurst@gate.net'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: PC800 Backrest Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 21:44:36 -0400 The Motorcycle salvage yard database is at: http://www.mshopper.eurografix.com/salvage/salvage.htm Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux [SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 9:09 PM To: ashurst@gate.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Backrest NOW Randy you have me scared. I mounted a 13 inch high backrest on the same mounting. I got the plan from Mickeymatt in Pittsburgh PA. He is on this net. 1- Please tell me the years of the 2 bikes that suffered the fracture and then let me ask -2-did you or the other guy notice any cracks or was there any rust there??? Please write back Randy & anyone who has heard of this. Oh dear. Just when things were looking up. :( To find a used one you can look in the back of motorcycle magazines and there is one m/c junkyard after another in those display classifieds or whatever they are. By the way, if your used one broke, why not get a new one??? Or if you get a used one --or for that matter a new one, perhaps have it rewelded or otherwise toughened up???? No ? Gnite. On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:34:05 -0400 "Randy Ashurst" writes: >Recently, the seatback rest (Hondaline) broke off of my Pacific Coast. > I'm >searching the web to get another one especially a used one. I'd need >the >side rails too. Mine broke off right at the welds on the side rails. >I >got another email from a HSTA PC800 rider who noted his had broken off >as >well. I wonder if this is a potential REAL problem with the way they >were >tackwelded on by Honda. Maybe there's others who've had the same >problem. >Let me know. Anyway if you know if a seatback even on a wrecked one >tell >me. Thanks, Randy Ashurst, Brunswick, GA > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA26165; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:24:56 -0400 (EDT) To: ashurst@gate.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Backrest breakage Hi all, My backrest broke at the "weld" as well. Actually, the "upper" part is bent 90 degrees, then welded. Mine broke on the bend. I had it re-welded. TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:42:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:32:32 -0400 Wait a minute now, both PCer's raised their shifter but one was vertically challenged and the other was vertically gifted????? Rock, are you pulling our legs again? Vince > > I am quite short and of course have feet to scale. When I got my 96 the > shifter was also way too low for me. I adjusted it up and cinched it > down and it stays nicely put. > > > >Since I'm tall and have fairly large feet (Size 13) I found that > >raising > >the shifter allowed for a much more enjoyable ride. I just tighened > >it -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 11:35:52 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 11:35:19 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hiway pegs for PC800 - web sites Very nice. thanks for the pictures. I have wanted to add pegs to my PC for two years but didn't know where to start. regards Mark _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Jim Randall wrote: >Both Phil Lewis and Gerard Diepeveen were kind enough to post web pages detailing the hiway pegs project on the >PC. Phil's URL is www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/INDEX.HTM. Gerard placed the page on the Pacific >Coast Netherlands site at dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800-pegs.htm (snip) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:07:38 -0700 "Re: PC800: Hiway pegs for PC800 - web sites" (Aug 5, 11:35am) To: "J. MARK VENABLE" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hiway pegs for PC800 - web sites Hey Mark! Killer set of photos on the highway peg install. It's great info. Thanks. Ramin On Aug 5, 11:35am, J. MARK VENABLE wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Hiway pegs for PC800 - web sites > Very nice. thanks for the pictures. I have wanted to add pegs to my PC for > two years but didn't know where to start. > > regards > Mark > > _____________________________________________________________________________________________ > Jim Randall wrote: > > >Both Phil Lewis and Gerard Diepeveen were kind enough to post web pages > detailing the hiway pegs project on the >PC. Phil's URL is > www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/INDEX.HTM. Gerard placed the page on the > Pacific >Coast Netherlands site at dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800-pegs.htm (snip) > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from J. MARK VENABLE -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda/Kenwood AM/FM radio Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 16:09:12 GMT Does anyone know how to set the 'preset' stations on this radio? I think it is the Hondaline optional radio, but I don't have the user manual for it. Thanks in Advance ]Monty[ '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:15:57 +0200 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Our trip to the States Cc: agray@denver.net You all know me, but for the people new to this list, my name is Gerard Diepeveen from the Pacific Coast Netherlands (www.dsv.nl/~pcn/). A few of my PC800 friends and me are planning to come to the states next year. We start in Denver, Colorado at Alexander Gray's place (he is coming with us as well, of course), also a member of this email list, the plan is to go from Denver through the Rocky Mountains, Grand canyon, Las Vegas, San Diego, LA and back to Denver. This year we will plan a exact route for the trip, and I will make a page on the PCN web site with all the updates and the complete route, with dates etc. The date we will visit America : last 2 weeks of june 1998 (may change, because of work schedules). Length of the trip : approx. 2.000 - 2.500 miles. Can we make it in 2 weeks : we will see. Bike : rental. Make : Honda. Type : Goldwing 1500's (no PC800 I'm afraid, but a Goldwing will do nicely). If there any PC800 enthusiasts who would like to join Alexander Gray and us, let me or Alexander know, it would be nice if you will join us, maybe you can't make it all the trip Length, no problem just join us. To all members of the list who live in Holland, join us if you can, it should be a fantastic trip. Email Alexander Gray : agray@milehigh.denver.net or agray@milehigh.denver.net My email : pcn@dsv.nl Hope to see you all next year. Gerard Diepeveen, Pacific Coast Netherlands * Pacific Coast Netherlands * * Gerard Diepeveen * * pcn@dsv.nl * * Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 * * ------------------------------------------- * * visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: * * http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 5 Aug 1997 13:15:02 -0400 From: "Ted Gerarden" Subject: PC800: New member To: "Honda PC email group" I just joined the PC800 email list. My name is Ted Gerarden and I am in Arlington, Virginia. I do not have a PC, but am thinking about buying one used. Any advice or recommendations? My email: t.gerarden@dcwm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:37:15 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:36:45 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re; PC800: New member Welcome Ted, I think the red ones are the prettiest ones :) Mine is a '90. Mark >Ted Gerarden wrote: >just joined the PC800 email list. My name is Ted Gerarden and I am in >Arlington, Virginia. I do not have a PC, but am thinking about buying one >used. Any advice or recommendations? My email: t.gerarden@dcwm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 11:59:19 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Todd Farmer CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Never Pay for Advertising Again. Todd Farmer wrote: > > Since you are doing business on the 'net, you know that properly > targeting your advertising messages can be pretty tough. And banner > ads are still way too expensive...etc. > US World News & Reports came out with an article on Monday May 12, > 1997 finding that "70% of Internet users don't mind receiving > commercial email messages - as long as they are targeted to their > personal interests" > > I found that you are doing business on the net by using "Extractor > PRO" commercial email software...etc. In spite of the US News & World Report statistical nonsense you expound, (which itself is suspect) it remains unethical, impolite, and a gross breach of netiquette to send unsolicited messages, commercial or otherwise. This is particularly foul when sent to a list server as you have done here. Regardless of its legality (which it is not), by doing this you anger many if not most of those you wish to positively influence by your message. Also, to anger certain skilled members of the web is to incur a certain risk of retaliation which may easily exceed any profitable effort on your part. Let me end this communication with a personal sentiment. May the fleas of a thousand camels inhabit your arpits, may your irate unsolicited receivers spam your server to capacity, and may multiple hackers put worms in your OS and delete your hard drive until your hardware is obsolete. Scumbag. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PWA24246; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:03:17 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pcn@dsv.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, agray@denver.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:45:42 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Our trip to the States From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Gerard, It sounds like a great trip, and I'd like to hook-up with you for a portion of the trip. In the meantime, if I can do anything for you in the San Diego area, please let me know. I can't offer you lodging, but perhaps I can help out some way. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:15:57 +0200 Gerard Diepeveen writes: >You all know me, but for the people new to this list, my name is >Gerard >Diepeveen from the Pacific Coast Netherlands (www.dsv.nl/~pcn/). > >A few of my PC800 friends and me are planning to come to the states >next year. >We start in Denver, Colorado at Alexander Gray's place (he is coming >with >us as well, of course), also a member of this email list, the plan is >to go >from Denver through the Rocky Mountains, Grand canyon, Las Vegas, San >Diego, LA and back to Denver. > >This year we will plan a exact route for the trip, and I will make a >page >on the PCN web site with all the updates and the complete route, with >dates >etc. > >The date we will visit America : last 2 weeks of june 1998 (may >change, >because of work schedules). >Length of the trip : approx. 2.000 - 2.500 >miles. >Can we make it in 2 weeks : we will see. >Bike : rental. >Make : Honda. >Type : Goldwing 1500's (no PC800 I'm >afraid, but a Goldwing will do >nicely). > >If there any PC800 enthusiasts who would like to join Alexander Gray >and >us, let me or Alexander know, it would be nice if you will join us, >maybe >you can't make it all the trip Length, no problem just join us. > >To all members of the list who live in Holland, join us if you can, it >should be a fantastic trip. > >Email Alexander Gray : agray@milehigh.denver.net or >agray@milehigh.denver.net >My email : pcn@dsv.nl > >Hope to see you all next year. > >Gerard Diepeveen, Pacific Coast Netherlands > > > >* Pacific Coast Netherlands * >* Gerard Diepeveen * >* pcn@dsv.nl * >* Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 * >* ------------------------------------------- * >* visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: * >* http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn * > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:01:00 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Ted Gerarden" , "Honda PC email group" Subject: Re: PC800: New member Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:51:05 -0400 Ted, My advice is to buy a used PC at a reasonable price ($3200-$4000) and try it out. If you don't like it you can resell it for the same price. Vince ---------- > I just joined the PC800 email list. My name is Ted Gerarden and I am in > Arlington, Virginia. I do not have a PC, but am thinking about buying one > used. Any advice or recommendations? My email: t.gerarden@dcwm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:04:07 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "J. MARK VENABLE" , Subject: Re: Re; PC800: New member Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:54:19 -0400 Man, that Mark is a wise person. Vince (also 90 PC) ---------- > Welcome Ted, I think the red ones are the prettiest ones :) Mine is a '90. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: , Daniel Mignardi Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:34:02 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Balto-Wash PC Meeting? Addressed to: Daniel Mignardi Dear folks, This idea has been in the back of my mind for most of the summer, but I kept not getting around to it. But with the arrival of yet another member in the area (Hi, Ted G!), I decided I should just get on it. How about a meeting of Balto-Wash area PC owners? I was thinking of a weekend (probably a Saturday) afternoon at a park where we could perhaps have a picnic or barbecue, show off our bikes, and get to know each other. It just so happens that I live here in Columbia, MD, about halfway between B & W, and there are several nice parks that would do nicely for the purpose. I would be happy to check into their availability. I imagine that most everyone already has plans for Labor Day weekend, so how about the following Saturday, September 6? Around noon? Let me know, either through the list or privately, and I'll report back the level of interest. If you like, call me at (410) 997-2780. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RRT24246; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 17:07:36 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:06:52 -0700 Subject: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Hi Guys; I'm about to replace the brake fluid in my PC800 and I have a couple questions I hope someone can help me with. Years ago, when changing the fluid on a car, I simply ran some zygon tubing into a jar of fluid, had someone pump the brakes until there were no more bubbles, then tightened the bleeder valve. I read somewhere that you should have a vacuum pump to do this job, i.e., suck the fluid out instead of "pushing" it out. Question: Is there any reason *not* to use the tube & jar method? I intend to simply loosen and pump out through the bleeder valve. But, I also have a vague recollection from some source that the hose from the master cylinder should be disconnected from the brake and the fluid pumped out there. I see no reason for this, but I'd appreciate hearing from someone that has done the job. So, my second question is: Is it OK to empty the old fluid by pumping it out the bleeder fitting with the brake lever? Thanks in advance for your help. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: Re; PC800: New member Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:30:19 -0400 Welcome Ted, BTW, pretty is one thing, SEXY is something else... the black ones are THE sexiest! Jim Randall - '95 PC jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Vincent Santamaria [SMTP:vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 3:54 PM To: J. MARK VENABLE; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re; PC800: New member Man, that Mark is a wise person. Vince (also 90 PC) ---------- > Welcome Ted, I think the red ones are the prettiest ones :) Mine is a '90. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:42:11 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: PC800: New member To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Ted, I don't know about black being THE sexiest, but it is the hardest to see on the road. For VISABILITY, go with the '96 in Racing Red! Peter Noeth - '96 PC P.S. Welcome to the list!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Witzell To: PC800 Subject: PC800: Maine Lobstah Run... On our way to Richmond Maine, in our Dodge Caravan, I spotted a 96 Red PC800 in the Kittery Maine rest area on rt 95 northbound. It had only 177 miles on it. We waited for 10 min but nobody came by to claim it. Must have eaten in an Indian, or Mexican restaurant for lunch, and was.... On Sunday at the Rt. 1/ Main st junction in Brunswick Me. we stumbled onto the start of the lobstah run... must have been about 1000 bikes there. 90% HD's 5% Goldwings and the rest a mixed bag. Later that day in Wiscassett (sp?), spotted a black PC comming southbound on rt 1. I have yet to meet up with another pc'er in my travels... DRAT. Anybody know these two bikes? Nick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:30:42 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 List, My bike is now 2 weeks old with 250 miles on it. I have been only using it on the weekends since acording to the manual, for the first 600 miles you are supposed to keep it under 4000rpm, which corresponds to 55 - 60mph and I don't want to take it to work unless I can keep up with the other maniacs! The question I had though, was has anyone else noticed that the bike has a dead spot around 2500rpm under mild acceleration? I notice this mostly when accelerating from a stop and shifting from 1st to 2nd. The PC hesitates briefly which is a little disconcerning especially when cornering from a stop. My last bike ('86 Nighthawk 450) had accelerator pumps in the carbs, giving a near instantaneous throttle response. I don't think the PC800 has them as there was no warning in the manual about flooding the engine due to repeatedly cranking the throttle before starting it like the Nighthawk had. I met Guy Chinn at the Honda of Milpitas shop over the weekend and I hope us California Bay Area types can get together for rides from time to time. Your input is appreciated, Peter - '96 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:48:02 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Richard A Hardy CC: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement Richard A Hardy wrote: > I read somewhere that you should have a vacuum pump to do this job,... The vacuum pump is what I use to purge the old fluid from the lines and reservoir. When clear fluid starts to come out the caliper bleeder I then manually pump/hold/bleed/tighten/release/repeat. The brakes and clutch on the PC can be bled manually by one person. I'm vertically challenged and had no problem reaching the lever and bleed nut at the same time. > Is there any reason *not* to use the tube & jar method? Only if you're not likely to lose sleep wondering if any air was trapped under the bleed nipple. (Unless you remove the bleed nipple and wrap several layers of teflon tape around it, air gets sucked past the threads and could potentially trap air just behind the bleed nipple.) That's why I do the final bleeding manually. > But, I also have a vague recollection from some source that the hose > from the master cylinder should be disconnected from the brake and the > fluid pumped out there. Not necessary. You'll just run the risk of getting fluid on plastic parts and also have to buy new sealing washers for the "banjo bolts". > Is it OK to empty the old fluid by pumping it out the bleeder fitting > with the brake lever? Only if you close the bleed nipple prior to the next pump of the lever. Otherwise you'll just suck air bubbles back through the bleed nipple. All of the above wisdom was acquired years ago using the time honored "Oops, I shouldn't have done that!..." method of motorcycle maintenance... ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 19:03:29 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567 wrote: > The question I had though, was has anyone else noticed that the bike has > a dead spot around 2500rpm under mild acceleration? I don't know if this is a symptom of CA emissions, but my '96 (48 state model) had perfect carburetion from idle to redline. > I don't think the PC800 has them... Correct. The PC has two CV carbs with no accelerator pumps. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 17:24:51 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Richard A Hardy CC: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement Richard A Hardy wrote: > Hi Guys; > > I read somewhere that you should have a > vacuum pump to do this job, i.e., suck the fluid out instead of > "pushing" > it out. Question: Is there any reason *not* to use the tube & jar > method? Pumping the brake wears on the master cylinder piston and seals. This is aggravated by the lack of lubricant in the form of brake fluid. Using a vacuum bleeder eliminates this problem. How much difference in wear is hard to say, and the price of the bleeder may well equal a master cylinder rebuild. > I intend to simply loosen and pump out through the bleeder valve. > But, I also have a vague recollection from some source that the hose > from the master cylinder should be disconnected from the brake and the > > fluid pumped out there. It sometimes happens when you drain a hydraulic system that the M/C will become air bound, pockets of air prevent fluid from entering the system. In the rare event that that happens, you will have to disconnect the lines from the M/C t bledd it first, then re connect (With new seals) and finish bleeding the system. > So, my second question is: > Is it OK to empty the old fluid by pumping it out the bleeder fitting > with the brake lever? Yes provided you remember to shut the bleeder valve before pumping, as GK advised, and dispose of the fluid in an environmentally sound manner. > > Alan Taylor 95 PC800 Midnight Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:38:47 -0400 mine doesn't have a flat spot Jim Randall - '96 PC jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567 [SMTP:PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 11:31 AM To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc List, My bike is now 2 weeks old with 250 miles on it. I have been only using it on the weekends since acording to the manual, for the first 600 miles you are supposed to keep it under 4000rpm, which corresponds to 55 - 60mph and I don't want to take it to work unless I can keep up with the other maniacs! The question I had though, was has anyone else noticed that the bike has a dead spot around 2500rpm under mild acceleration? I notice this mostly when accelerating from a stop and shifting from 1st to 2nd. The PC hesitates briefly which is a little disconcerning especially when cornering from a stop. My last bike ('86 Nighthawk 450) had accelerator pumps in the carbs, giving a near instantaneous throttle response. I don't think the PC800 has them as there was no warning in the manual about flooding the engine due to repeatedly cranking the throttle before starting it like the Nighthawk had. I met Guy Chinn at the Honda of Milpitas shop over the weekend and I hope us California Bay Area types can get together for rides from time to time. Your input is appreciated, Peter - '96 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:14:32 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: Re; PC800: New member Jim Randall wrote: > Welcome Ted, > > BTW, pretty is one thing, SEXY is something else... the black ones > are THE sexiest! Yeah, what Jim said. ;) E. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VtI21001; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 21:53:13 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Cc: crazyapple@ibm.net, rocheux@juno.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 21:53:13 EDT NO. They had the dang thing too low and I like had to maneuver my foot down under it. It was ridiculous. Has nothing to do with height. Both our feet sat on the peg and both got well under the shifter. On Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:32:32 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >Wait a minute now, both PCer's raised their shifter but one was >vertically >challenged and the other was vertically gifted????? Rock, are you >pulling >our legs again? Vince > >> >> I am quite short and of course have feet to scale. When I got my 96 >the >> shifter was also way too low for me. I adjusted it up and cinched >it >> down and it stays nicely put. >> > >> >Since I'm tall and have fairly large feet (Size 13) I found that >> >raising >> >the shifter allowed for a much more enjoyable ride. I just >tighened >> >it > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA19944; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:57:48 -0400 (EDT) To: pcn@dsv.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: agray@denver.net Subject: Re: PC800: Our trip to the States The trip sounds great. I was out there this past June, in the same areas you are talking about. The HSTA (Honda Sport Touring Assoc.) is holding it's annual rally in Taos, NM at the end of June. I am in Chicago but I'll be there for the rally and I look forward to meeting you guys.... Todd Zedak -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA18753; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:02:41 -0400 (EDT) To: jhyder@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dmignard@umabnet.ab.umd.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Balto-Wash PC Meeting? In a message dated 8/5/97 4:15:47 PM , jhyder@erols.com (James Hyder) writes: << How about a meeting of Balto-Wash area PC owners? >> Please consider joining the HSTA (Honda Sport Touring Assoc.) It's a great group, lot's of fun, and many of the rides are all ready to go. e-mail me if you want more info. They have a web page and many PC'ers are already members... Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3302400 ; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 22:04:24 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 22:08:47 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: mashaw@mindspring.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda/Kenwood AM/FM radio Monty, Use the tuner button in the trunk to find the station you want, then hit the blue button to bring up "CH#" in the window. Then just hit the "preset" button on the handlebars. Keep repeating that sequence until you have all 5 stations set. You can do the same for AM stations too. I have a copy of the Hondaline manual. I'd be willing to scan it and e-mail to anyone interested. Scot '89 PC800 Venus ---------------- Monty Shaw wrote: > > Does anyone know how to set the 'preset' stations on this > radio? I think it is the Hondaline optional radio, but I > don't have the user manual for it. > > Thanks in Advance > > ]Monty[ > '89 PC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: loose shifter thingy Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:22:14 -0400 Actually I raised mine one grove on the shaft too right after I got the bike. I had to point my toes at the ground to get underneath it before. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rocky E Rocheux [SMTP:rocheux@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 9:53 PM To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net Cc: crazyapple@ibm.net; rocheux@juno.com; PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy NO. They had the dang thing too low and I like had to maneuver my foot down under it. It was ridiculous. Has nothing to do with height. Both our feet sat on the peg and both got well under the shifter. On Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:32:32 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >Wait a minute now, both PCer's raised their shifter but one was >vertically >challenged and the other was vertically gifted????? Rock, are you >pulling >our legs again? Vince > >> >> I am quite short and of course have feet to scale. When I got my 96 >the >> shifter was also way too low for me. I adjusted it up and cinched >it >> down and it stays nicely put. >> > >> >Since I'm tall and have fairly large feet (Size 13) I found that >> >raising >> >the shifter allowed for a much more enjoyable ride. I just >tighened >> >it > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA27544 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:30:16 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:30:16 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Never Pay for Advertising Again. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Steve, You've got to stop beating around the bush like this. Well Said! Greg Steve Churchill wrote: > > In spite of the US News & World Report statistical nonsense you >expound, (which itself is suspect) it remains unethical, impolite, and a >gross breach of netiquette to send unsolicited messages, commercial or >otherwise. This is particularly foul when sent to a list server as you >have done here. Regardless of its legality (which it is not), by doing >this you anger many if not most of those you wish to positively >influence by your message. Also, to anger certain skilled members of the >web is to incur a certain risk of retaliation which may easily exceed >any profitable effort on your part. > Let me end this communication with a personal sentiment. May the fleas >of a thousand camels inhabit your arpits, may your irate unsolicited >receivers spam your server to capacity, and may multiple hackers put >worms in your OS and delete your hard drive until your hardware is >obsolete. Scumbag. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA03882; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:34:50 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:34:50 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Fwd: Re: PC800: New member To: t.gerarden@dcwm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ted, Rumor has it that you can pay too much (by the thousands) by shopping at Coleman Powersport, which is somewhere in your neighborhood. I'm from California, but their reputation has spread far and wide. Greg Chambers > I just joined the PC800 email list. My name is Ted Gerarden and I am in > Arlington, Virginia. I do not have a PC, but am thinking about buying one > used. Any advice or recommendations? My email: t.gerarden@dcwm.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 21:36:45 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Re; PC800: New member Jim Randall wrote: > > Welcome Ted, > > BTW, pretty is one thing, SEXY is something else... the black ones > are THE sexiest! > yup...but the '89 Pearl is the classiest :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:31:28 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc Peter wrote: >>I hope us California Bay Area types can get together for rides from time >>to time. I agree! -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id CQD22578; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 02:44:51 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:45:02 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: loose shifter thingy From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:07:15 -0400 (EDT) frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil writes: >PC800 - a bike with no name. Hmmm, Frank, sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,707 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 01:36:22 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: Todd Farmer , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Never Pay for Advertising Again. Stephen A. Churchill wrote: May the fleas > of a thousand camels inhabit your arpits, may your irate unsolicited > receivers spam your server to capacity, and may multiple hackers put > worms in your OS and delete your hard drive until your hardware is > obsolete. Scumbag. I couldn't have said it better myself!! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:48:46 +0200 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Anti spamming and junkmail To all my friends on the list. More and more junk mail is arriving on our list, it's time we do somthing about it, I have looked at some website to see what we as individuals can do about spamming and junk mail. I know Jason does all he can to free this list of spammers, and we cannot blame him if there are still some asholes (sorry for this) who think they can use the list for there purposes. It's time to act, and let them know we're sick of it. There are some anti spamming sites worth wile to look at: * http://www.dgl.com/docs/antispam.html * http://catalog.com/tsw/efilter/ * http://www.cciweb.com/iway7/spam.html * http://spamnet.com/Links.htm * http://www.winternet.com/~mackie/spam/ * http://zikzak.zikzak.net/~acb/features/anti-spam-howto.html (strange name!) * http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/antispam/antispam.htm Gerard Diepeveen * Pacific Coast Netherlands * * Gerard Diepeveen * * pcn@dsv.nl * * Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 * * ------------------------------------------- * * visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: * * http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Piper, Scot A." To: "'PC800@HPC.UH.EDU'" Subject: PC800: tailgaters Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:33:40 -0400 This will probably open up a can of worms (unless it was discussed prior to me joining the PC800 mailing list - BTW, how long has the PC800 mailing list been around?). How do you handle tailgaters? I'd like to think they are interested in this strange looking vehicle going down the road, but more often than not, the driver is too busy putting on make-up or talking on the cell phone to notice. This morning I was going 70 in a 55 and had a young female a couple of car lengths behind me. We were the only 2 on the road. Eventually I tapped the brakes a couple of times, then moved to the right a little and waved her around. I think she figured it out as she politely signaled and passed me. But most people don't seem to figure it out. And I really like to have a little breathing space when I'm on my cycle. Any thoughts? One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on PC800's? I rode 60 miles and it was down to 1/2 tank. The manual says I will have 0.8 gal of fuel at the red zone of the fuel gauge. With 95 miles on the odometer, that red zone is coming quickly. Scot '89 PC800 Venus 12, 700 miles ------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA14729 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:56:21 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement Hi Gang: While on this subject, I noted two items in recent magazines that are purported to make this job easier and a true one-person operation: The first is a replacement bleed valve that incorporates a ball check valve which automatically opens and closes to keep the system sealed while bleeding it. Check out p. 47 of the August issue of MCN. The second is the poor-man's alternative to the above "elegant" solution. It is a tip from a fellow in LA who points out that your garden-variety household spray bottles have within them a ball check valve that can accomplish the same thing as the one in the above product. All that needs to happen is to attach the bleed hose to the pickup tube of the spray head, use a rubber band to hold the trigger closed, open the bleed valve, and pump away. Sounds like a neat trick. Check out p. 84 of the September issue of Motorcyclist. Happy bleeding. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA20438 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:45:47 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Hi Scot: In a message dated 97-08-06 08:40:11 EDT, you write: << Eventually I tapped the brakes a couple of times, then moved to the right a little and waved her around. >> I think that at least in an urban situation tailgaters are simply something you have to expect and get used to. There is nothing that can be done to fix them. And it's not just cage drivers; bikers, especially those who have had no training, are frequently among the worst offenders. It sounds to me like you did the right thing in the situation you describe, Scot. If you can get them to pass you, then that is the best solution. If not, all you can do is make sure that you leave as much space as possible between you and the guy in front and maintain good visual habits to prevent surprises that require emergency braking. That way you can give those behind you lots of time to notice what is going on ahead of them and respond without taking you out. Of course, this is not easy to do, because if you are smart enough to leave a safe gap between you and the vehicle ahead (MSF recommends at least 2 seconds), someone will surely pull into your safety cushion, and you have to start all over again. One of the things you shouldn't do with a tailgater is to increase your speed (assuming that you are traveling at a resonable speed and not holding up a line of folks behind you). All that does is get you a tailgater travelling at a higher speed and less reaction time and distance to respond to surprises. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id KFU19108; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 10:15:19 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Sapiper2@hscnt2.dowcornusa.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 07:14:39 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) The PC800 fuel guage has to be considered inaccurate if you mean can you rely on what the needle is pointing to. I have at least a gallon left when the guage is in the red. The needle is well up on the nozzle of the hose on the gas pump icon. Do what I did, then you'll feel comfortable, knowing you can read the guage. Carry some gas - a quart is enough for an around town test. Then, simply run out of gas, watching where the needle is pointing at various times. You will find that the guage is very pessimistic. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:33:40 -0400 "Piper, Scot A." writes: > >This will probably open up a can of worms (unless it was discussed >prior >to me joining the PC800 mailing list - BTW, how long has the PC800 >mailing list been around?). How do you handle tailgaters? I'd like >to >think they are interested in this strange looking vehicle going down >the >road, but more often than not, the driver is too busy putting on >make-up >or talking on the cell phone to notice. This morning I was going 70 >in >a 55 and had a young female a couple of car lengths behind me. We >were >the only 2 on the road. Eventually I tapped the brakes a couple of >times, then moved to the right a little and waved her around. I think >she figured it out as she politely signaled and passed me. But most >people don't seem to figure it out. And I really like to have a >little >breathing space when I'm on my cycle. Any thoughts? > >One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on >PC800's? >I rode 60 miles and it was down to 1/2 tank. The manual says I will >have 0.8 gal of fuel at the red zone of the fuel gauge. With 95 miles >on the odometer, that red zone is coming quickly. > >Scot >'89 PC800 Venus >12, 700 miles >------------ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id KKR19108; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 10:25:55 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: safeone@ptd.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rahardy@juno.com Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 07:19:29 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Del Mar Vintage Days From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) No, I don't know, Steve, but I'll find out and get back to you. Anyone else know? Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:47:13 -0400 "Steve Herczeg" writes: >Hi Richard > >I have been trying to find out the date of the Vintage Day Races at >Del >Mar. Any idea when, I think October. > >Thanks > >Steve >STOC # 402 >'91 Black > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Garbacik To: Dave Gross Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: Re; PC800: New member On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Dave Gross wrote: > Jim Randall wrote: > > > > Welcome Ted, > > > > BTW, pretty is one thing, SEXY is something else... the black ones > > are THE sexiest! > > > > yup...but the '89 Pearl is the classiest :>) > > Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC Ah yes . . . . pure and virginal are the Pearls! Tom -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 97 08:21:27 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: chinn@pacbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc REPLY TO 08/05/97 21:31 FROM chinn@pacbell.net "Guy & Sonya": PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc Ditto on the Bay Area Rides! Except for now when it's 100 degrees outside....so when did I move to Death Valley! Erin in Mountain View, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: chinn@pacbell.net cc: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA17844 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:22:13 -0400 (EDT) To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement In a message dated 97-08-06 08:57:32 EDT, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: << The first is a replacement bleed valve that incorporates a ball check valve which automatically opens and closes to keep the system sealed while bleeding it. Check out p. 47 of the August issue of MCN. >> FWIW, they are the Speedbleeders. I have them and they are wonderful. It is a super product and a super company to do business with. What, you say, a super company to do business with? Why on earth is he saying that? This is about a brake bleeder for g**s sake! Well, just light up your web browser and locate www.speedbleeder.com/. There is an order form available and they will send you the bleeders promptly, you pay for them when you get them and are satisfied. I call that both confidence in your product and a great company to do business with... One other thing. Speedbleeder has a patent on a compound which goes on the threads of the bleeder to ensure that no air bleeds back through the threads. That makes it more effective than even one man bleeder systems that you can buy in the aftermarket. Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA25999; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:22:32 -0400 (EDT) To: jhyder@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, dmignard@umabnet.ab.umd.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Balto-Wash PC Meeting? In a message dated 97-08-05 17:15:47 EDT, jhyder@erols.com (James Hyder) writes: << I imagine that most everyone already has plans for Labor Day weekend, so how about the following Saturday, September 6? Around noon? Let me know, either through the list or privately, and I'll report back the level of interest. If you like, call me at (410) 997-2780. >> James, I am interested and have already penciled it in on my work calendar. Of course, I do have to check with my wife. The PC is actually her bike ! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:27:01 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:26:21 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC Fuel gauge - (was tail gaters) My gauge is pretty conservative. Rode with a friend (also on a '90 PC) to last year's Americade and found her gauge read about a quarter tank after about 150 miles and mine showed virtually empty. When we gassed up we both took the same amount of gas to within a tenth of a gallon. I always try to use the trip meter to know for sure when I should be looking for a gas station. Mark Venable '90 PC 10,000 miles "This End Up" >Scott Piper wrote: >One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on PC800's? >I rode 60 miles and it was down to 1/2 tank. The manual says I will >have 0.8 gal of fuel at the red zone of the fuel gauge. With 95 miles >on the odometer, that red zone is coming quickly. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:06:04 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: James Hyder CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Daniel Mignardi Subject: Re: PC800: Balto-Wash PC Meeting? James Hyder wrote: > > Addressed to: > Daniel Mignardi > > Dear folks, > > > about the following Saturday, September 6? Around noon? Let me know, > either through the list or privately, and I'll report back the level of > interest. If you like, call me at (410) 997-2780. > > --James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles > -- >James, I'll try to make it. Dick, 90 PC, 91,000mi. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:38:14 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: Rocky E Rocheux CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ninja Motor & Sproing dreams. Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > when I arrived at a small > grocery store near Richmond ,Virginia having driven straight through from > Wilmington NC. Rocky, we havn't been able to buy a rubber band in Richmond for months, now I know where they all went! Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id MSI19108; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:51:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: TedJ101@aol.com Cc: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:51:26 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Ted, Thanks for the info. I went to the SpeedBleeder website and it is just as you say, and I intend to get a set. ($13 + shpg). My problem now is that I don't know what the thread size is and the service manual doesn't tell. I can mike the O.D. and convert to millimeters easily enough, but I don't have a metric thread guage. Is there a way to convert unified thread sizes to metric? Or, better yet, do you know what the size is on your PC? I'm sure mine is the same even if we have different years (mine is a '90). Or, perhaps you still have the box/package they came in and it has a size or part #? Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:22:13 -0400 (EDT) TedJ101@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-08-06 08:57:32 EDT, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: > ><< The first is a replacement bleed valve that incorporates a ball >check >valve > which automatically opens and closes to keep the system sealed while >bleeding > it. Check out p. 47 of the August issue of MCN. >> > > >FWIW, they are the Speedbleeders. I have them and they are wonderful. > It is >a super product and a super company to do business with. What, you >say, a >super company to do business with? Why on earth is he saying that? >This is >about a brake bleeder for g**s sake! Well, just light up your web >browser >and locate www.speedbleeder.com/. There is an order form available >and they >will send you the bleeders promptly, you pay for them when you get >them and >are satisfied. I call that both confidence in your product and a >great >company to do business with... > >One other thing. Speedbleeder has a patent on a compound which goes >on the >threads of the bleeder to ensure that no air bleeds back through the >threads. >That makes it more effective than even one man bleeder systems that >you can >buy in the aftermarket. > >Regards, > <> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 02:04:28 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: scotp1965@mdn.net CC: mashaw@mindspring.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda/Kenwood AM/FM radio Scot Piper wrote: > > Monty, > I have a copy of the Hondaline manual. I'd be willing to scan it and > e-mail to anyone interested. > > Scot > '89 PC800 Venus Hi Scot! If you'd like to scan it and save it as a text file (or .jpg if it has pertinent pictures and text) and send it to me, I can put it on my server space and everyone who wants a copy, can upload it from there. Take care, Phil -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Piper, Scot A." Cc: "'PC800@HPC.UH.EDU'" Subject: PC800: Re: tailgaters From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 Aug 1997 12:27:19 -0500 Lines: 22 >>>>> "PSA" == Piper, Scot A writes: PSA> BTW, how long has the PC800 mailing list been around? The first message that wasn't a test is dated Tue, 14 Jun 1994 15:33:58. PSA> How do you handle tailgaters? I slow down. Not violently, but I watch the rear and slowly reduce speed. If they look like they're going to hit me then I speed up and figure out how to get out of the way. It also gives them an incentive to go around. I really want to carry a supply of large ball bearings, but I've been able to restrain myself so far. PSA> One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on PSA> PC800's? Ignore it. Ride 120 miles, fill up, and compute your mileage. Then go by the odometer. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 10:35:13 -0700 "Re: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc" (Aug 6, 8:21am) To: "Erin Dolin" , chinn@pacbell.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hesitation around 2500rpm - New '96 pc You didn't. It moved up here because the weather is nicer! ;-) Ramin On Aug 6, 8:21am, Erin Dolin wrote: .so when did I move to Death Valley! > > Erin in Mountain View, CA > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PUL26036; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:46:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:21:31 -0700 Subject: PC800: Saeng Edging From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:11:32 -0700 chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) writes: >Jeff, have you tried Saeng Stealth edging and or their Winglets. The edging wraps >around the edge of your windshield and the winglet is a clear plastic strip that you can >attach above the top of your windshield. I use the edging and it works real well. it gives >me about 3 more inches of wind protection. If I remember correctly they do have a >website. I can't seem to remember but the list may have it! > > Sammy D I concur with Sammy; I've been using Saeng since the beginning and it also gives me that 3" edge (bad pun). Not a Call To Arms, guys, just a Humble Opinion! Saeng numbers: (800)868-7464 Automated 24-Hr Voice Mail (402)563-3444 Technical Assistance They probably have a web site, but they don't list it in their ad in Rider. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,717 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PUF26036; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:46:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:29:05 -0700 Subject: PC800: General Comment Time.... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) After I posted on some nonsense about running Mobil 1 in my radiator in lieu of coolant.... writes: >Tim, Your bike is overheating because you are not using motorcycle specific oil in >your radiator. I never cease to marvel at how creatively insane we are on this list! I would venture to say that most of us seem to share some very specific characteristics, one of which is a delightfully twisted sense of humor. I have three (finally!) grown children within which I tried to instill two strong ethics: The ability to read and write well and the ability to see the humor in everyday life. I know that there are a lot of listers contributing to the PC800 list, which is marvelous because it speaks of the burgeoning popularity of our choice of pleasure...the Pacific Coast. Occasionally an individual may get sideways about something and things get slightly bucolic, but it doesn't last long, because there's always someone willing to step in and put a humorous twist on the situation. It is with great pleasure that I participate in this list because it is obvious that there are many here who share my ethics. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,717 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id Q]D26036; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:03:11 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:57:19 -0700 Subject: PC800: Death Valley Days From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Wed, 6 Aug 97 08:21:27 PDT "Erin Dolin" writes: >Ditto on the Bay Area Rides! Except for now when it's 100 degrees outside....so when >did I move to Death Valley! Boy, Howdy...me too! For the past week the temp's had the audacity to get into the mid and upper 80s here in Portland...how rude! Last night I went for a Midnight Ride and I actually had some bugs flying around our garage spots. It was 74 at midnight...how rare! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,717 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:13:37 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: Re: PC800: Re: tailgaters To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu Cc: "'PC800@HPC.UH.EDU'" i know people who ride bike and carry bb's if someone gets to close they get several and drop them slowly down by there side ... appears almost like small road gravel ... now we do not have a bike so do not do this ... just know of people around dc that say they do ... our .02 :) bob and grace parker http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:15:20 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: Re: PC800: Balto-Wash PC Meeting? To: James Hyder , grace and i would like to attend ... after i check with grace of course ... we will be the ones driving the honda car ... do not have a bike yet ... how about it rocky ??? you up for it ??? :) bob and grace parker http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gary J. Kissinger" To: Subject: PC800: PC800 Air Cleaners Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:27:50 -0700 Anyone out there have info about where to get our air filters the cheapest? OR...an alternate filter that would work.....? Gary Kissinger zzeek@gte.net Hello from Hawaii! ---------- > From: J. MARK VENABLE > To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: PC Fuel gauge - (was tail gaters) > Date: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 8:26 AM > > My gauge is pretty conservative. Rode with a friend (also on a '90 PC) to last > year's Americade and found her gauge read about a quarter tank after about 150 > miles and mine showed virtually empty. When we gassed up we both took the same > amount of gas to within a tenth of a gallon. I always try to use the trip > meter to know for sure when I should be looking for a gas station. > > Mark Venable > '90 PC 10,000 miles > "This End Up" > > > >Scott Piper wrote: > > >One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on PC800's? > >I rode 60 miles and it was down to 1/2 tank. The manual says I will > >have 0.8 gal of fuel at the red zone of the fuel gauge. With 95 miles > >on the odometer, that red zone is coming quickly. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 18:05:15 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Jason L Tibbitts III , PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... I inadvertently included the HSTA list server address in a reply to the PC-800 list and it was bounced back to me...***Because I wasn't subscribed***! The next question should by now be quite apparent. Can Jason create similar code to allow only those subscribed to actually post messages? It might go a long way to reduce the recent flood of Spam that's infiltrating the list. Just a thought. gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:11:48 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: PC800: tailgaters To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 This can be a problem especially here in CA where the typical driving style is to follow no more than 1 car length regardless of speed. This is to avoid anyone getting in front of you that may slow down afterwards and delay your travels by a few minuites. I deal with it by just maintaining my speed and watching the mirrors closely. Not a good idea to move over to the right and wave them by, especially if you are in the right lane. They may not pass you enough to the left and end up running you off the road. Wave them around, but do not relinquish any of your lane to them, stay in the middle or just left of middle if you are in the right lane and watch them closely. I notice that they don't tailgate me as much since my bike doesn't have the licence plate yet. Maybe are afraid I am a new rider and might crash in front of them :-{). Regards, Peter '96 PC in "Racing Red" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:12:28 -0700 "PC800: General Comment Time...." (Aug 6, 11:29am) To: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: General Comment Time.... So....what're you saying?....Oil doesn't go in the radiator?? Ramin ;) On Aug 6, 11:29am, Timothy B Macy wrote: > Subject: PC800: General Comment Time.... > After I posted on some nonsense about running Mobil 1 in my radiator in > lieu of coolant.... > > writes: > >Tim, Your bike is overheating because you are not using motorcycle > specific oil in >your radiator. > > I never cease to marvel at how creatively insane we are on this list! I > would venture to say that most of us seem to share some very specific > characteristics, one of which is a delightfully twisted sense of humor. I > have three (finally!) grown children within which I tried to instill two > strong ethics: The ability to read and write well and the ability to see > the humor in everyday life. > > I know that there are a lot of listers contributing to the PC800 list, > which is marvelous because it speaks of the burgeoning popularity of our > choice of pleasure...the Pacific Coast. Occasionally an individual may > get sideways about something and things get slightly bucolic, but it > doesn't last long, because there's always someone willing to step in and > put a humorous twist on the situation. > > It is with great pleasure that I participate in this list because it is > obvious that there are many here who share my ethics. > > Tim > Portland, OR > '94 PC800--58,717 Miles and Going For Infinity! > > "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that > you're promised tomorrow." > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Timothy B Macy -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:30:16 -0700 "PC800: tailgaters" (Aug 6, 3:11pm) To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters In general (because I'm almost always in the far left hand lane) I will roll one lane to the right (when it's clear) and let them by. But if I'm on a lonsome stretch of highway and some guy (usually in a late model Camaro or Firebird, I don't know why) is trying climb up my tail pipe at 70mph+ I'll (please don't do this yourselves. Only **I'm** dumb enough to play this game) slowly begin to whick it up and see how speedy the cager is. Usually at about 90mph they back way down and then they keep a respectable distance. I'm not sure what the phsycological underpinnings of this phenomena are, but I think it's the primal male urge to prove "I'm bigger, stronger, faster, etc. than you are." In all my years of driving/riding, I've only had one person keep up with me past 100mph. Eventually they all back down. But, I think the "let the idiots go by" method is much better. You can spend more of your time enjoying the scenery (which is one of the primary reasons we bought bikes in the first place, right?). :-) Ramin On Aug 6, 3:11pm, PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567 wrote: > Subject: PC800: tailgaters > This can be a problem especially here in CA where the typical driving style > is to follow no more than 1 car length regardless of speed. This is to > avoid anyone getting in front of you that may slow down afterwards and > delay your travels by a few minuites. > > I deal with it by just maintaining my speed and watching the mirrors > closely. Not a good idea to move over to the right and wave them by, > especially if you are in the right lane. They may not pass you enough to > the left and end up running you off the road. Wave them around, but do not > relinquish any of your lane to them, stay in the middle or just left of > middle if you are in the right lane and watch them closely. > > I notice that they don't tailgate me as much since my bike doesn't have the > licence plate yet. Maybe are afraid I am a new rider and might crash in > front of them :-{). > > > Regards, > > Peter '96 PC in "Racing Red" > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567 -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 Aug 1997 17:10:03 -0500 Lines: 14 >>>>> "GEK" == Gary E Klim writes: GEK> The next question should by now be quite apparent. Can Jason create GEK> similar code to allow only those subscribed to actually post messages? Yes, I can. I don't like to; the bloody HSTA list sounds absolutely fascist in requiring that I subscribe before posting a message, expecially when I'm simply replying to something sent to me. But if people still want that... Do realize that the traffic generated by the spam has so far outweighed the actual spam by upwards of 600%. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: tailgaters Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:08:06 -0400 When my needle is directly over the red dot, I have about 1.2 gallons left. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Richard A Hardy [SMTP:rahardy@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 10:15 AM To: Sapiper2@hscnt2.dowcornusa.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters The PC800 fuel guage has to be considered inaccurate if you mean can you rely on what the needle is pointing to. I have at least a gallon left when the guage is in the red. The needle is well up on the nozzle of the hose on the gas pump icon. Do what I did, then you'll feel comfortable, knowing you can read the guage. Carry some gas - a quart is enough for an around town test. Then, simply run out of gas, watching where the needle is pointing at various times. You will find that the guage is very pessimistic. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:33:40 -0400 "Piper, Scot A." writes: > >This will probably open up a can of worms (unless it was discussed >prior >to me joining the PC800 mailing list - BTW, how long has the PC800 >mailing list been around?). How do you handle tailgaters? I'd like >to >think they are interested in this strange looking vehicle going down >the >road, but more often than not, the driver is too busy putting on >make-up >or talking on the cell phone to notice. This morning I was going 70 >in >a 55 and had a young female a couple of car lengths behind me. We >were >the only 2 on the road. Eventually I tapped the brakes a couple of >times, then moved to the right a little and waved her around. I think >she figured it out as she politely signaled and passed me. But most >people don't seem to figure it out. And I really like to have a >little >breathing space when I'm on my cycle. Any thoughts? > >One other issue, how accurate do you feel the fuel gauge is on >PC800's? >I rode 60 miles and it was down to 1/2 tank. The manual says I will >have 0.8 gal of fuel at the red zone of the fuel gauge. With 95 miles >on the odometer, that red zone is coming quickly. > >Scot >'89 PC800 Venus >12, 700 miles >------------ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:38:49 -0500 Ramin Keyvan writes: > In all my years of driving/riding, I've only had one person keep up with me > past 100mph. Eventually they all back down. But, I think the "let the idiots > go by" method is much better. You can spend more of your time enjoying the > scenery (which is one of the primary reasons we bought bikes in the first > place, right?). :-) On a two-lane road, my favorite solution is to quickly swerve into the oncoming lane, grab a **big** handful of brake, watch 'em zoom by confused, then get swerve back into my lane. Problem dealt with in 1.5 seconds, max. Always works with the kids in the Camaros trying desperately to compensate for their "testosterone shortages". Note for MSF instructors, you teach the pieces of this manuever. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gerri Ewing To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" Cc: "'Jack Huddle (Buck)'" Subject: PC800: The "Jetson-mobile" changes hands Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:53:16 -0400 Congratulations to John Roe. He is now the proud owner of the = "Jetson-mobile." John is currently a "List Lurker," now that he is an owner, maybe he = will become an active participant. As for myself, Cindy and I are in the process of purchasing a 97' Gold = Wing. My old tush needs a little more cush for those long road trips. Thanks for all the, tips, advice, humor, and fellowship. Gerri and Cindy Ewing -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Size of Windshield Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:12:37 GMT How do I tell what size windshield I have? Along with that, I'd also like to find some information about what is available that is bigger and quieter. I think I have the stock windshield, and I'd like to get a bigger one if I can. Should I run right out and get a Rifle? Will a large Honda one be OK? Is my head supposed to be completely outside the envelope of the fairing? It's so much louder than when I bend way over and get behind the windshield. It's so quiet you can hear yourself think. Normally I have the roar of the air around my helmet. This is my first bike, so I don't know what the options are. Any advice is welcome. Thanks in Advance ]Monty[ '89 PC=20 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 17:20:21 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Do realize that the traffic generated by the spam has so far > outweighed the > actual spam by upwards of 600%. > > - J< > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Thats us! ;) E. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: Cc: "PC800 mail list" Subject: Re: PC800: Size of Windshield Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:36:00 -0500 > From: Monty Shaw > To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Size of Windshield > Date: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 7:12 PM > > How do I tell what size windshield I have? Along with that, > I'd also like to find some information about what is > available that is bigger and quieter. I think I have the > stock windshield, and I'd like to get a bigger one if I can. > Should I run right out and get a Rifle? Will a large Honda > one be OK? Is my head supposed to be completely outside the > envelope of the fairing? It's so much louder than when I > bend way over and get behind the windshield. It's so quiet > you can hear yourself think. Normally I have the roar of the > air around my helmet. This is my first bike, so I don't know > what the options are. > > Any advice is welcome. > > Thanks in Advance > Finding the right height: Put your bike on the centerstand on some level ground. Get a can (or anything small that you can see) and put it about 30 feet ahead of your bike. Sit on your bike, with your hands on the handlebars in your normal riding posture. Next, get a Significant Other to hold a piece of cardboard to the front of your windshield and slide it up until you can just barely see the can. You should now know how tall your windshield should be. You will probably still get a little buffetting at this point, but you'll be far better to see in the rain (if/when you get caught in the rain and you will, trust me) than if you have a shield that rises any higher. Finding the stock height: You **probably** have the stock height shield from your description. Opinions seem to vary on whether the tall Hondaline fairing is better or worse than the Rifle fairing. One thing is for sure: the Rifle is much cheaper (especially if you order from Cycle Designs and repeatedly drop the name "Roger Prince"). Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:54:39 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Size of Windshield To: mashaw@mindspring.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Monty, If your windshield is wider at the top part than at the point where the mirrors attach, then you have the tall Hondaline windshield. Most "authorities" suggest that your line of sight be an inch or two over the top of the windshield for safety purposes (if your windshield gets full of bug bodies or other obstruction you can't easily see through). However this tends to be a little noiser ride than if your sight line is about 2 inches below the top of the windshield. Rifle makes replacement windshields that are a little wider than stock and have more height sizes available to custom fit you which most riders report that is very quiet while riding. There is Saeng Edging that is a black strip that easily attaches around the edge of your windshield that increases the calm air area that seems to work for a lot of people here. Everyone has their favourite, but I don't think that there is one definitive solution. I plan on getting the tall Hondaline windshield only because I am getting it basicly for free as a warrenty replacement of my stock windshield (it had some film residue from the protective shipping plastic that won't come off). If the Saeng edging was a clear or neutral color I would probably try it. It is the cheapest solution, around $40 I believe which would be a good start. I am sure you will get many answers to your reply. Regards, Peter '96 PC, still working on breakin -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 20:07:24 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "GEK" == Gary E Klim writes: > > GEK> The next question should by now be quite apparent. Can Jason create > GEK> similar code to allow only those subscribed to actually post messages? > > Yes, I can. I don't like to; the bloody HSTA list sounds absolutely > fascist in requiring that I subscribe before posting a message, expecially > when I'm simply replying to something sent to me. But if people still want > that... > > Do realize that the traffic generated by the spam has so far outweighed the > actual spam by upwards of 600%. > > - J< > > -- I'd like to see it stay the way it is. The SPAM is pretty light, so far, and I hate to see people who are "testing the waters" be turned away. My .02 Roger Prince -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 18:08:01 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Rifle Fairingstress cracks At 05:50 8/2/97 -0400, you wrote: >Have you tried "stop drilling" those cracks? Just get the smallest bit you >can find and drill a hole at the tip of the crack. It worked well for me on >an old Windjammer shield many years ago. Stopped the cracks cold. You might >want to give it a shot. Hello JT, Thanks for the tip. I have used this method on other stuff (like the cowling on my snomobile) and it works. Unfortunately, there are so many cracks radiating from the mounting holes that I would end up swis-cheesing it so badly it probably would not be able to support it's own weight. In a year or so I might just end up cutting the lower 1"-2" of the windshield and see if I like the result. If not, I'll just replace it with a new one. Thanks for the tip tho... Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XYD26546; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:07:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: garyklim@snet.net Cc: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:06:23 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) A flood? What flood? >It might go a long way to reduce the recent flood of Spam that's >infiltrating the list. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Wanda Bailie'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: RE: need more info. Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 23:06:49 -0400 The brackets are made from standard 1 1/2 " X 3/16" steel angle. This can be purchased from any steel supplier but they WILL want to sell you a 20' section. Thicker (1/4") angle would be fine but don't try to use angle thinner than 3/16". If there is a metal recycler in your area, you can probably find scraps of suitable steel for next to nothing. The cross-section looks like this: |<--1.5"--->| _ | | | | | | | | | | | |____________ _ |______________| _ <--- 3/16" The brackets are quite simple and the measurements are not critical except for the 65 degree cut. Step 1: make the perpendicular (to the length of the angle) cuts first. Make two cuts, 1" apart. Step 2: Then do the 65 degree cuts on the other leg of the angle so that they intersect the first two. Step 3: Drill the 1/2" hole centered and 3/4" from the end of the perpendicular leg. Step 4: Use a grinder or file to round off the sharp edges. Step 5: Make the bracket for the other side the same way except for slanting the 65 degree cut the opposite way. A couple of list members have inquired about me making and selling them the mounting brackets. While I'm not particularly interested in going into the business of making motorcycle accessories, and I certainly don't want to turn the PC800 listserver into a commercial venue, I do think this is a nice mod and several people seem to be very interested. So, I asked my teenage son, Joe, if he'd like to earn a little spending money making a few sets of brackets for a reasonable price; he said yes. Since this would be good entrepreneurial experience for him and a lot better way to spend his time than watching TV, I'm willing to commit him to as many of these as the list members want. We'll have to buy steel and I'd like to get decent pay for the time he invests. Bottom line, we'd be willing to make the brackets for $15 per set + shipping. Would you or any other list members be interested in this approach? Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Wanda Bailie [SMTP:wanda_bailie@smtpgw.kentrox.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 9:22 PM To: Jim Randall Subject: need more info. Jim, My husband and I have been talking about road pegs for over a year now. He removed my covers about 2 weeks before your post and they are still off. I told him to hold off till I got more info. when I saw your posting. I have gotten the complete instructions and pictures off the Dutch PC web page. Great detail and pictures. He's now ready, but wanted me to contact you to see if you could send me the exact measurements/specs. you used when cutting out the final (trial and error I think you said) adapter brackets you have clamped onto the case guard. Length/width/thickness/hole location. I can have the machinist here at work fabricate a pair for me and that will make my husbands "job" much easier. I look forward to hearing from you. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:45:00 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: rear shocks The '89 I just obtained has about 46K miles on it. I don't think the back shocks are all that they could be. The back seems to bottom out on rough driveway entrances, etc. It also sounds fairly squeeky back there. How would one know if they needed to be replaced? I know that the left side is adjustable and it is set on the next to hardest setting. Would going softer help? If I did replace them, does one need to replace the exterior spring as well? -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:50:45 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: name calling Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I have a new name for my PC800? A guy at work saw it for the first time today, and said there was way too much plastic in the back. When I popped the trunk, he just said WOW, that's cool. Now he's a believer in plastic (not the credit card kind)! -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA15603 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:52:12 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:52:12 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... At 08:07 PM 8/6/97 -0400, Roger Prince wrote: >I'd like to see it stay the way it is. The SPAM is pretty light, so >far, and I hate to see people who are "testing the waters" be turned >away. > I cast my Lott (pun intended) with Roger! I find the headings to be pretty good indicators of whether it is a legitimate message from one of the group or spam. The delete key and trashcan takes care of the spam pretty quickly. Besides, I certainly don't want anyone to think that this group is anything less than the great bunch of folks it is! Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Keller" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:56:27 +0000 Subject: PC800: Maintenance Reply-to: green@null.net This all started with a broken speedometer cable. It's not finished yet. Don't expect your Honda dealer to carry the cable. Expect to pay anywhere from $17 to $25 for it. My special-order speedo cable is stuck in a UPS queue somewhere. Today my SO called a local non-dealer bike shop and found one that will work. It's about 1cm shorter but still isn't too tight at the left lock. To get the cable disconnected (if it's too tight to loosen it at the speedo end with fingers), you'll like have to get the instrument assembly out of the fairing. This requires removing more plastic than I want to ponder. Since I had a cable on order and already had a new air filter and a set of spark plugs, I decided to take care of those, too. The air filter was easy. My fingers are still sore and scratched from the speedo cable replacement. The spark plug socket in my PC's tool kit is too long. I finally figured this out and got the tool from Ruby's PC's tool kit. It's the one with a 10mm Allen thingy on it. Mine is like a Gold Wing's. Go figure. The shock preload tools are different, too. Hers won't fit my bike. So I get by on the spark plugs until I get to the left front. I tear **** out of the orange boot trying to get it off the plug. Several plastic chips and a set of needle-nosed pliers later, I have it off. Now I have to reattach the spark plug wire, which pulled out in the process. I get it in place, tape the mess together, and put it on the new spark plug. Now it's time to balance the carburetors. I don't have a screwdriver long enough, so I look for combinations of tool bits that will do the job without having to remove the air box. I don't find one. It's bed time. I'll borrow or buy a scewdriver tomorrow. Oh, yes. Adjusting the brake pedal height can require adjusting the brake light switch. Don't think about the amount of plastic you'll have to remove to get to that until it's absolutely necessary. Will I go through this again? Probably. I bought the beast with 20900 miles on it and with no maintenance records. I wanted to do certain things to have a baseline. Coolant and brake/clutch fluids by 24000. . . . Sorry for the ramble. It's been an adventure. My new Rifle windshield is in the UPS queue, too. The person who answered the phone at Rifle Monday was short with Ruby and didn't provide the tracking number. So I don't know where the thing sits. And a new ham radio is somewhere between Mesquite and Tulsa. Also delayed. It's time for effective matter transmission. -Michael [Ham: N5RDV (ex: AB5EL)] Tulsa, OK green@null.net http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5602/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:04:51 -0400 From: Dave Bartlett To: Guy & Sonya Cc: PC800 List Server Subject: Re: PC800: name calling On Wed, Aug 06, 1997 at 08:50:45PM -0700, Guy & Sonya wrote: -> Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I -> have a new name for my PC800? -> -> A guy at work saw it for the first time today, and said there was way too -> much plastic in the back. When I popped the trunk, he just said WOW, -> that's cool. Now he's a believer in plastic (not the credit card kind)! Someone recently said my PC looked like a "jet ski on wheels", or a "scooter on steroids". - dlb -- +----------------------------+ | Dave Bartlett | | CSE Systems Administration | | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +----------------------------+ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Jim Randall Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: need more info. From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 06 Aug 1997 23:54:26 -0500 Lines: 12 >>>>> "JR" == Jim Randall writes: JR> Bottom line, we'd be willing to make the brackets for $15 per set JR> shipping. Would you or any other list members be interested in this JR> approach? Hey, that sounds pretty good to me. Don't worry about perverting the list for any perceived commerciality; that it part of why it's here. Just let us know what to do. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 07:58:20 +0200 To: Guy & Sonya , PC800 List Server From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: name calling At 20:50 6-8-97 -0700, Guy & Sonya wrote: >Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I >have a new name for my PC800? > >A guy at work saw it for the first time today, and said there was way too >much plastic in the back. When I popped the trunk, he just said WOW, >that's cool. Now he's a believer in plastic (not the credit card kind)! Don't be offended, just say that they are jealous. If heard some names in Holland for example: * Car on only 2 wheels * Chemical toilet * Tupperware party (when we have a meeting) * Bathtub etc. etc. Don't be offended, they are just jealous that they don't have an PC800 and you do. * Pacific Coast Netherlands * * Gerard Diepeveen * * pcn@dsv.nl * * Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 * * ------------------------------------------- * * visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: * * http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA16280; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 04:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 04:41:19 -0400 (EDT) To: rahardy@juno.com cc: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Brake Fluid Replacement In a message dated 97-08-06 15:11:27 EDT, rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) writes: << Thanks for the info. I went to the SpeedBleeder website and it is just as you say, and I intend to get a set. ($13 + shpg). My problem now is that I don't know what the thread size is and the service manual doesn't tell. I can mike the O.D. and convert to millimeters easily enough, but I don't have a metric thread guage. Is there a way to convert unified thread sizes to metric? >> I just told them what my bike was and they sent me the appropriate screws. I suspect that all recent Hondas use the same, much less PC's. I just looked in the Garage and found a package from Speedbleeder which had contained SB8125 bleeders (their part no.) I THINK this was for the Honda, but I have ordered several sets from them and it might have been for a car. Of course, they might have been the same too... That's the best I can do right now. If Speedbleeder can't help, I could pull a unit and put a thread guage on it... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:34:26 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Roger Prince wrote: > I'd like to see it stay the way it is. The SPAM is pretty light, so far, > and I hate to see people who are "testing the waters" be turned away. > > My .02 I agree with Roger! --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA29385 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:46:05 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: rear shocks Hi Guy: In a message dated 97-08-07 04:58:23 EDT, you write: << The back seems to bottom out on rough driveway entrances, etc. It also sounds fairly squeeky back there. How would one know if they needed to be replaced? >> I think you've just described a pretty good set of indicators that the shocks are in pretty sad shape. >> I know that the left side is adjustable and it is set on the next to hardest setting. Would going softer help? >> Not if is already bottoming. Going to a lower setting would lower the rear ride height and result in even more bottoming. >>If I did replace them, does one need to replace the exterior spring as well? >> You might be able to buy just the dampers, but it would probably be a good idea to replace the springs anyway. At 46K, they probably have sagged beyond their service limit. If you want to check them out, the dealer can pull the springs off and check their length against the service limit. However, the labor to make this check and remount the springs on new dampers might be more than the cost of the springs. I'd ask before having them do it. As an alternative to the OEM suspension units, you might want to get some aftermarket units made (I think) by Works Performance. They have received praise from those who have tried them, and they will provide custom spring rates and shock settings for your normal loading habits and riding style. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA15433 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:45:52 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Hi Bob: In a message dated 97-08-06 19:42:23 EDT, you write: << Note for MSF instructors, you teach the pieces of this manuever. >> Alas: one never knows for what inventive purpose the tools we distribute in good faith will be used. :) With respect to this particular maneuver, my questions are: Do you keep your head and eyes up? Do you squeeze the front-brake lever progressively with all four fingers? Do you use both brakes? Do you signal your lane changes? Do you do a mirror check and head check? If the answer to all of these is, "yes," then you have learned well, Grasshopper. May you never encounter a fool in a Viper or Turbo Porsche that really needs to get around the slowpoke kid in the Camero. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA10552 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:46:11 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Size of Windshield Hi Monty: The windshield problem with the PC is one we all have dealt with in ways that suit our particular needs. If you are looking for a really quiet ride, the concensus of this list seems to be get the Rifle. It is cheaper than the tall Hondaline, and it offers more choices as to screen height. The height you need depends on your sitting height. For those of us who ordered the tall shield before we knew about the Rifle option, some find it adequate in terms of noise, while the taller folks still have a noise problem, depending on their sitting height. Among those in the latter category (and I am one), some find that adding Stealth edging from SAENG/TA will lift the envelope just enough to provide a reasonably quiet ride. Earplugs (which are a good idea anyway) complete the setup, reducing the noise level to essentially zero. (Note: the tall Hondaline screen has also been identified as the culprit in a problem with melting of the plastic dashboard and cowling. It acts as a lens and focuses the sunlight when shining from some rear aspects into a concentrated beam.) Since you haven't invested in the Hondaline yet, I suggest that you go with the Rifle system. From a safety standpoint, you should choose a windscreen height such that your normal line of sight is slightly above the top of the screen. However, this may not produce the degree of quiet that you want without earplugs. If you want to ride with your head in essentially calm air, then you will have to go with a screen that you have to look through while riding. The trade-off for this level of quiet is that you will have great diffifulty seeing where you are going if you have to ride in the rain and/or fog. For me, the better overall solution is to look over the screen and wear earplugs if you want a silent ride. I hope this helps. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 09:51:23 -0500 From: carol ann decelle-meek To: Pacific Coast Subject: PC800: 95 PC Sale Those of you who are looking for a great buy consider this... 95 PC 265 miles was purchased and after the 265 miles back to the dealer and traded in for a four wheeler. Asking price is 5,500. They will settle for 5,200. Probably less However, in one's negotiations one could state pick up expenses, etc.... and I believe they will settle for less. I am an extremely satisfied customer of McKinney Honda, Ruston, LA. They are the largest dealership in sales and services for Honda Four Wheelers in the nation. I have all three of my bikes serviced there and have purchased a Helix and my (94)PC from them. Also have a 94 Goldwing. They are wonderful to deal with. Their address is as follows: McKinney Honda I-20 Service Road (318)255-6777 LA WATS 1-(800)-376-6777 FAX (318) 255-3034 FOR YOUR BEST DEAL...DEAL WITH JOHN McKINNEY, OWNER It will help if you preface your communicatiion my mentioning my name: Rev. Richard R. Meek Monroe, LA 71203 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 97 08:54:43 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Guy & Sonya Subject: Re: PC800: name calling >Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I >have a new name for my PC800? ---------- I think you've got your bikes name. I like it. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 12:13:00 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Jeremy P. Wyatt" Subject: PC800: Earplugs :-) Hi all: After riding a Triumph Bonneville for the past 15 years, the idea of needing earplugs when riding my PC is pretty funny. It's all relative.......... Have a great day! Jeremy -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 97 09:10:10 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: rear shocks I ride with shocks by Works Performance and there great. It wasn't that hard to change them ourselves. My husband and I had it done in no time at all. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: rear shocks Author: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 8/7/97 7:12 AM As an alternative to the OEM suspension units, you might want to get some aftermarket units made (I think) by Works Performance. They have received praise from those who have tried them, and they will provide custom spring rates and shock settings for your normal loading habits and riding style. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Bob Ray" To: "PC800 mail list" Subject: PC800: Unsubscribing Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:25:10 -0500 I'm unsubscribing until after the Iron Butt Rally. Thanks again to all who've given me much needed advice! Hope to see a couple of you hotdogs at the Yakima checkpoint. Bob Ray -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:07:00, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Heat Vents.. After long rides this summer I've noticed that the right heat vent is extremeley hot and the left heat vent is just warm.. Has anyone else noticed this heat distribution difference? Do I have a problem with my 96 with 11k miles or is this normal? Thanks for your help. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id QiR14641; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:25:39 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: NVXL62A@prodigy.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:37:42 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Heat Vents.. From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) I sure have! I've gotten blisters on my right knee from that hot air stream, and I constantly have to hug the right side to keep my knee out of that hot air stream in hot weather. Never a problem with the left side. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:07:00, -0500 NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) writes: > > >After long rides this summer I've noticed that the right heat vent is >extremeley hot and the left heat vent is just warm.. Has anyone else >noticed this heat distribution difference? > Do I have a problem with my 96 with 11k miles or is this normal? > >Thanks for your help. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:16:01 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Do realize that the traffic generated by the spam has so far outweighed the > actual spam by upwards of 600%. Yeah, but we did it to ourselves voluntarily. We apparently like to talk alot. SAC > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 13:21:34 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Heat Vents.. At 13:07 8/7/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >After long rides this summer I've noticed that the right heat vent is >extremeley hot and the left heat vent is just warm.. Has anyone else >noticed this heat distribution difference? > Do I have a problem with my 96 with 11k miles or is this normal? > >Thanks for your help. I think the "problem" is that the front cylinder exhaust collector exits on the front-right side, so the vent gets rid of both radiator heat and exhaust heat, whereas the left side only has to deal with the radiator. Take a peek inside and you'll see what I mean. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:23:22 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Ramin Keyvan CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: General Comment Time.... <19970806.124601.4438.8.timmacy@juno.com> <9708061512.ZM20941@persepolis> Ramin Keyvan wrote: > > So....what're you saying?....Oil doesn't go in the radiator?? > You do if you want your radiator to last for 200,000 miles or more. Of course you'll have to change engines every 3,000 miles... SAC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Heat Vents.. Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:00:48 -0700 Remember this is a "feature" in the more northerly and cooler riding areas. -bryceu > >After long rides this summer I've noticed that the right heat vent is > >extremeley hot and the left heat vent is just warm.. Has anyone else > >noticed this heat distribution difference? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Claude Hill" To: "List Mail PC800" , "HSTA List" Subject: PC800: Stock Honda Pacific Coast Seat for SALE Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:19:03 -0500 Stock 2 piece seat removed from my 1989 PC800 to make room for a Corbin after less than 3,000 miles. Taking up room in my garage. $75 + UPS from Nashville, Tennessee. Will include a country music cassette tape. Claude Hill Nashville, TN USA Email perfcomp@isdn.net Web http://www.biznet-tn.com/claude STOC#68 The Sobe GhoST -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Wanted: Trailer for PC Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:24:02 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am interested in buying a small cargo trailer (or plans for home built trailer ) to pull with a PC800. -> Contact James at: Jgeist.lubtx@door.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:01:51 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com CC: Jason L Tibbitts III , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Roger Prince wrote: > I'd like to see it stay the way it is. The SPAM is pretty light, so > far, and I hate to see people who are "testing the waters" be turned > away. > I agree with Roger. I enjoy hearing from new people who are just thinking about getting a PC. Besides, we don't really want to make this like some sort of exclusive club do we? How about we just ignore the spam next time. I usually just send unsubscribe or remove and then ignore it. If we start getting repeats or some other real problems, then I guess we'll have to start thinking about a filter. Take care all, Phil P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the differential? -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:03:36 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Richard A Hardy CC: safeone@ptd.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Del Mar Vintage Days Richard A Hardy wrote: > > No, I don't know, Steve, but I'll find out and get back to you. Anyone > else know? > > Richard Hardy, San Diego > rahardy@juno.com > > On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:47:13 -0400 "Steve Herczeg" > writes: > >Hi Richard > > > >I have been trying to find out the date of the Vintage Day Races at > >Del > >Mar. Any idea when, I think October. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve > >STOC # 402 > >'91 Black I hate to show my ignorance, but what are the "Vintage Day Races?" -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:18:58 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Gerard Diepeveen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, agray@denver.net Subject: Re: PC800: Our trip to the States Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > > You all know me, but for the people new to this list, my name is Gerard > Diepeveen from the Pacific Coast Netherlands (www.dsv.nl/~pcn/). > > A few of my PC800 friends and me are planning to come to the states next year. > We start in Denver, Colorado at Alexander Gray's place (he is coming with > us as well, of course), also a member of this email list, the plan is to go > from Denver through the Rocky Mountains, Grand canyon, Las Vegas, San > Diego, LA and back to Denver. Those of us in SCPCRC would like to meet you in person and ride along for a ways. Please keep us informed as to when you get down this way. Take care, Phil -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:24:39 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: "Piper, Scot A." CC: "'PC800@HPC.UH.EDU'" Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Piper, Scot A. wrote: > > How do you handle tailgaters? What I'd really like to do is to be able to push a button and have a great big neon sign light up that says: **************** *GET OFF MY A--* **************** But all I can really do, most of the time, is get out of "their" way! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 08 Aug 1997 07:49:10 +0000 (MED) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 07:49:45 +0200 From: "H.Snoek" Subject: PC800: Bandenkeuze PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Beste mensen, Naar aanleiding van de website en de bandenkeuze even een reactie. Sinds 1991 rij ik op een witte PC en heb inmiddels 100.000 km achter de rug. Al snel viel mij op dat banden snel slijten en duur zijn. Ik heb samen met mijn dealer en het uitproberen van diverse banden een prima alternatief gevonden. Er zijn weinig keuzes als je de exacte maat aanhoudt. De aangepaste maat die ik nu gebruik bevalt mij nog beter dat de Dunlops uit het begin; ik heb Yoko's en Conti Blitz gebruikt, maar die slijten sneller. Mijn huidige keuze is: Voor: Bridgestone 110/80 -17 G547F of Battlax BT35F (goed voor 18000 km) Achter: Conti Tour 150/90 -15 TK17 (goed voor ruim 25000 km). Eerdere banden zijn op na 12000 km. Ik rij vrijwel elke dag (zomer en winter) woon-werk en heb dus ervaring met alle weertypes. De Conti past net op de witte PC, ik begreep dat die bij het rode type (net) niet past, dus uitproberen. Groeten, H.Snoek PS Ik geef me niet op voor de e-mail werkgroep omdat ik mail vanuit mijn werkadres. Als jullie dit bericht plaatsen wil je het mailadres dan niet vermelden. Bedankt. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 08 Aug 1997 08:03:41 +0000 (MED) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 08:04:17 +0200 From: "H.Snoek" Subject: PC800: Wrong message To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu By mistake I sent you a message for the Dutch website that (I hope) will be placed there. Please don't send me a mailmessage because my work-mailaddress is very busy and I have no time to react. I will join the workgroup when I have mail at home. H.Snoek -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 11:24:49 +0200 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: PC800 Highway pegs by Jim Randall The page has been updated with the plans to make the pegs your self. Also there is a zip file which you can download with the plans in 3 different formats: * pc800peg.dxf (AutoCAD drawing exchange file). * pc800peg.dwg (AutoCAD drawing file, version 12). * pc800peg.gif (Gif file with the plans). The zip file is just 16.5 Kb Where was it again: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800-pegs.htm Enjoy * Pacific Coast Netherlands * * Gerard Diepeveen * * pcn@dsv.nl * * Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 * * ------------------------------------------- * * visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: * * http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn * -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 8 Aug 1997 14:17:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Cc: "Jason L Tibbitts III" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:08:49 -0400 Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to anti-freeze for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince ---------- > P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the > differential? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 14:20:47 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: Fw: PC800: Unsubscribing Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:13:33 -0400 Bryce and any others planning to be at the Iron Butt Checkpoints see attached to support Bob Ray's PC assault on the Iron Butt. Vince ---------- > > Bob, I plan to be at the Daytona checkpoint. If you need anything that I > > can help you with let me know. Vince Santamaria Fort Myers FL (941) > > 433-5375 > > > > How 'bout printing out the weather forecast for most of I-10 from > Weather Underground just before you head out???? Just in case you don't > have the URL handy, it's http://www.wunderground.com/ > > Perhaps, Mobile AL, Houston TX, El Paso TX, Phoenix AZ, Gila Bend AZ, > San Diego CA, and maybe throw in Jackson MS, Albuquerque NM and Dallas TX. > I'll may be able to catch the Iron Butt Channel in a motel (aka Weather Channel) > but who knows... > > Would you also email Bryce and perhaps ask him to do a similar thing > for the final leg? He's planning on being at the Yakima checkpoint. > > TIA, > Bob. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id LgO14064; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 11:50:52 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: rahardy@juno.com, safeone@ptd.net, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:50:56 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Del Mar Vintage Days From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Phil, If you're ignorant, then so am I. I can tell you that last year they were held at the Del Mar race track on the week ending on October 13. On the 13th, they had a "Tour de Elegance" race which consisted of only antique motorcycles. The tickets are kind of pricey. Last year they went for $22, $25, & $35. The $35 got you a table. Can anyone else contribute some knowledge here? >I hate to show my ignorance, but what are the "Vintage Day Races?" > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 12:07:06 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 12:06:28 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Anti-freeze in the differential (was spam, spam, etc Vince, that's because you have to put 45 psi of air in the differential. The antifreeze goes in the tires. or not Mark Venable '90 PC, 10100 miles "This End Up" -------- >Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to anti-freeze >for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince ---------- >> P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the >> differential? > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:03:52 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Gregg L. DesElms" Subject: Re: PC800: Backrest Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:03:52 +0000 I see there's a little discussion about the backrest. I'll throw this in... I've got 22,000 miles on my '89 and I have a custom-made (taller) backrest pad mounted on the regular Honda backrest brackets. In those 22,000 miles, I've had the backrest break off (usually just above the welds) three (count 'em, THREE) times -- including this very day (the third time). So I've got a bit of experience with this. The problem is really quite simple: The vertical angle irons are made from metal that is too thin -- much thinner, if you'll notice, than the side rails to which they're welded. The problem isn't passenger weight on the brackets. In fact, if a passenger were leaning against the backrest every time the bike is on the road, it would probably never break. The problem is vibration when there's no passenger. Whenever the bike is going down the road without a passenger, the backrest is wiggling just a little over and over and over and over -- just a millimeter or two during engine vibrations and somewhat more during bumps in the road. And whenever you slam the trunklid closed, it gets quite a jolt, too. It's just like bending a metal strap in your hands, back and forth over and over until the strap breaks. Tiny cracks develop in the vertical irons (brackets or whatever you want to call them) and as the minute wiggling continues and continues and continues it finally breaks through. Most PC owners either never experience it or only experience it once because the Hondaline backrest is short and light. So it takes somewhat longer for it to happen. My custom backrest has a metal backing plate in it that is 5 or so inches taller and about three times thicker than the one in the Hondaline product (and concomitantly heavier). This puts significantly more stress on my brackets, hence the frequency of the breakage in my particular case. But today... finally... I think we may have beefed-up the verticals enough that it may not happen again. I had the welder weld 1/4-inch metal rods -- one on either side of the mounting screws -- on each vertical (eg, two per vertical) and I asked him not to just tack them, but to make continuous welds on BOTH sides of each rod the entire length of each verticals. This has, I'm guessing, effectively doubled the mass of the verticals. Then I had him grind them back into shape and sand off all paint on the entire assembly. Then I cleaned them, dusted them, and primed them with Rustoleum primer, and painted them with a flat Rustoleum gray that was so dark it almost matches the seat color. As I'm writing this, they're hanging on a couple of bent-up old coat hangers from the rafters in the basement (drying). They'll be re-mounted on the bike in the morning. If this does not do it, then my next step will be to have completely new verticals fabricated from a much heavier metal -- perhaps even as thick as the siderail pieces. And I don't even want to think about what I'll do if THAT doesn't work. But, first things first... let's see if beefing them up with iron rods does it. Unfortunately, I won't be able to report how well it worked until sometime late next season since it typically takes a season or a season and a half for mine to crack and break again. Wish me luck. In the meantime, all you fellow PC owners out there... CHECK YOUR BACKREST BRACKETS!!!! You wouldn't want anyone to fall off! Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Computer & Telecommunications Consultant | Author | Activist =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ______ ______ _ | _ \ | ___| | Gregg DesElms | | \ | ___ ____| |_ | |_ __ __ ____ deselms@royal.net | | | |/ _ \| __| _| | | '_ | _ \| __| deselms@mailhost.net | |_ / | __/|__ | |___| | | | | | |__ | 1-800-224-2046 |______ / \___||____|______|_|_| |_| |_|____| (in USA and Canada) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Always take the high road. There's less traffic." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Posted-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:11:37 +0200 (MET DST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 13:18:49 +0200 From: Gert Wessels To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: unsubscribe please get me out of the list !! this is the 11th time that i treid to get out of it!!! have fun you all but count me out, have no time to read all the messages bye -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NlS13626; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 13:49:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: vacation disconnect From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 13:49:06 EDT Rocky & Carolyn are logging off the net. I have to go put my mom into an assisted living facility. Back in a week. Hate to log off but too mucho mailo. Warm fuzzies to ea & all. The Rock Island Rocket is on the rails!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Vincent Santamaria" Cc: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Re: Fw: Unsubscribing From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 08 Aug 1997 11:59:11 -0500 Lines: 7 >>>>> "VS" == Vincent Santamaria writes: >> Perhaps, Mobile AL, Houston TX, [..] Whoa... Is he coming through Houston? - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OIY13626; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 14:40:41 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ramin@tibco.com Cc: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 14:40:41 EDT Phone company drivers' ed taught us to very slowly reduce speed and they will go around. All that speeding is no good. I am off server as I am leaving Sat for Phx to put mom in assisted living. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:46:22 -0700 "Re: PC800: tailgaters" (Aug 8, 2:40pm) To: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux), ramin@tibco.com Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Cc: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Rocky, You're right, it's better to slow down and force them to go around. The other alternative is fun sometimes though ;-). Take care of your mom and we'll talk to you when you get back. Be safe, Ramin On Aug 8, 2:40pm, Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters > Phone company drivers' ed taught us to very slowly reduce speed and they > will go around. All that speeding is no good. I am off server as I am > leaving Sat for Phx to put mom in assisted living. >-- End of excerpt from Rocky E Rocheux -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA18000 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:00:40 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Differential Anxiety. In a message dated 97-08-08 10:18:37 EDT, Vince writes: << Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to anti-freeze for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince >> No, Vince. Your book is fine. The problem is that your PC has no differential. That feature was removed after the '87 model year. Apparently, the problem was that with the anti-freeze in it, the damned thing kept freezing up at speeds over 100 mph. Even though the problem may have been due to silicates in the Prestone many owners substituted for the approved Honda brand, the factory chose to modify the design rather than face the swarm of lawsuits that would surely come from irate owners who chose to ignore the warning labels on the "tank" and the cautions in their owner's manuals to save the $1.50 a gallon price differential (hmmmm?). Their fix was to put in a single-wheel drive unit at the back and lubricate it with the more conventional hypoid oil. This update also has made the bike a lot easier to lean into turns. I hope this relieves your anxiety over this matter. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA04882 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:00:45 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Bandenkeuze PC Gerard, Help! My German is nearly gone, and my Dutch was never there. It appears that H. Snoek is recommending an alternative tire setup for the PC, but beyond that I can't seem to sift anything else out. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id P]D12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:02:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:39:33 -0700 Subject: PC800: Product Endorsement! From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) The June, 1997 issue of MCN (Motorcycle Consumer News) had a Helmet Cleaner Comparison between California Helmet Liner Cleanser, Caprilim Helmet Foam, Helmet Fresh, and Woolite. Seeing as my helmet had become...ah....fragrant...after our trip east I was more interested in a helmet cleaner's deodorant power than its cleaning power. The Caprilim Helmet foam was recommended by MCN because of its cleaning power, but the testers raved about the deodorant power of the California Helmet Liner Cleanser. After it was so effective on helmet liners, they tried it on other smelly things, such as leathers...and to quote the article, "The results were amazing." So I picked some of the California Cleanser up at my local Honda shop and used it last night on my helmet...and I was "amazed" at the results. The spray cleaner totally neutralized the odors! So if your liner's gettin' gamey and you can't stand the smell, treat it nice with some California Helmet Liner Cleanser and yer nose'll thank ya as well! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,755 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id P]E12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:02:40 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:15:46 -0700 Subject: PC800: Royal Treatment... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) The StealthMobile got the royal treatment today. I admit to not being real consistent about keeping it clean; the first year I was on top of it all the time, but now it's gotten to the point that I started feeling good about even washing it...let alone giving it the Royal Treatment. Besides, any available "down time" becomes a ride! But yesterday, when I realized that the bugs on the windshield had there since our trip East in June, guilt overcame laziness. I started with a thorough washing, then went over the entire bike with Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Plastic Cleaner (#7). This not only fills in the tiny scratches, but it gives the dull hazy buildup on the paint the boot. Then I followed up with Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Show Car Glaze (#7). This stuff is great; it brings the black back up to a sparkling luster. After rubbing the black and grey back to its original shine, I then went over the entire bike, windshield and all, with ProtectAll. I love ProtectAll; not only does it give an armor-like coating to the preceeding work, but it makes the entire bike gleam. Meguiar's also got a great Hi-Gloss Yellow Wax, but I figured that enough was enough! I also went over the dash and seat with Amway Mint Condition Vinyl & Leather Cleaner (yeah, I used to be a distributor...wasn't everybody?). I also went over the wheel rims and other goodies like the rear end with Amway Scrub Brite Soft Cleanser, it does a great job of removing the gunk and dullness. Then I ProtectAll the rims to protect them from pitting. And, in a fit of overkill, I went over the sidewalls with Amway Tire & Trim Protectant (being careful not to get any on the tread!). It took the better part of the day, but the results were definitely worth it. If I didn't have the nicks, etc., on the fairing and saddlebag protectors, I'd venture to say that it looks better than when I drove it off the showroom floor. Actually, itt wasn't shined to as deep a luster on the showroom floor...! Oh, yeah, the Meguiar's Plastic Cleaner followed by a shot of ProtectAll on the helmet visor does a marvelous job of clearing up the scratches, and gives great protection against fogging and streaking in the rain. IMVHO, the '94 and '95's black is the most beautiful color on the Pacific Coast when it's cleaned up like the StealthMobile's Royal Treatment today. Unfortunately it also shows the dust the best! But it's a breeze to wipe down with ProtectAll on it. Feeling very tired but very proud of the Stealth, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,755 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:37:05 -0800 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Royal Treatment... Date: 08 Aug 97 11:31:17 KDT Hi Tim, how's it going? I don't know about you but I have trouble with swirl marks on my PC...probably due to my ignorance on proper cleaning techniques and I think the paint finish is more sensitive than car finishes! you think the plastic cleaner would help swirlies? The only stuff I found that worked half way decent on my bike was Simonize (sp?) clear coat conditioner & swirl mark remover but I have not been able to find it for at least a year. My luck they quit making it so I am always on the lookout for a good alternative. Where do you buy the Protectall? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Royal Treatment... Author: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) at CC2MHS1 Date: 8/7/97 8:15 PM The StealthMobile got the royal treatment today. I admit to not being real consistent about keeping it clean; the first year I was on top of it all the time, but now it's gotten to the point that I started feeling good about even washing it...let alone giving it the Royal Treatment. Besides, any available "down time" becomes a ride! But yesterday, when I realized that the bugs on the windshield had there since our trip East in June, guilt overcame laziness. I started with a thorough washing, then went over the entire bike with Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Plastic Cleaner (#7). This not only fills in the tiny scratches, but it gives the dull hazy buildup on the paint the boot. Then I followed up with Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Show Car Glaze (#7). This stuff is great; it brings the black back up to a sparkling luster. After rubbing the black and grey back to its original shine, I then went over the entire bike, windshield and all, with ProtectAll. I love ProtectAll; not only does it give an armor-like coating to the preceeding work, but it makes the entire bike gleam. Meguiar's also got a great Hi-Gloss Yellow Wax, but I figured that enough was enough! I also went over the dash and seat with Amway Mint Condition Vinyl & Leather Cleaner (yeah, I used to be a distributor...wasn't everybody?). I also went over the wheel rims and other goodies like the rear end with Amway Scrub Brite Soft Cleanser, it does a great job of removing the gunk and dullness. Then I ProtectAll the rims to protect them from pitting. And, in a fit of overkill, I went over the sidewalls with Amway Tire & Trim Protectant (being careful not to get any on the tread!). It took the better part of the day, but the results were definitely worth it. If I didn't have the nicks, etc., on the fairing and saddlebag protectors, I'd venture to say that it looks better than when I drove it off the showroom floor. Actually, itt wasn't shined to as deep a luster on the showroom floor...! Oh, yeah, the Meguiar's Plastic Cleaner followed by a shot of ProtectAll on the helmet visor does a marvelous job of clearing up the scratches, and gives great protection against fogging and streaking in the rain. IMVHO, the '94 and '95's black is the most beautiful color on the Pacific Coast when it's cleaned up like the StealthMobile's Royal Treatment today. Unfortunately it also shows the dust the best! But it's a breeze to wipe down with ProtectAll on it. Feeling very tired but very proud of the Stealth, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,755 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PfA14064; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:42:31 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:40:35 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Product Endorsement! From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) In 32 years, I've never cleaned or smelled a helmet liner. Now, dammit, thanks to Tim, I've got to start. Richard Hardy, San Diego rahardy@juno.com On Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:39:33 -0700 timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) writes: >The June, 1997 issue of MCN (Motorcycle Consumer News) had a Helmet >Cleaner Comparison between California Helmet Liner Cleanser, Caprilim >Helmet Foam, Helmet Fresh, and Woolite. Seeing as my helmet had >become...ah....fragrant...after our trip east I was more interested in >a helmet cleaner's deodorant power than its cleaning power. The >Caprilim Helmet foam was recommended by MCN because of its cleaning >power, but the testers raved about the deodorant power of the >California Helmet Liner Cleanser. After it was so effective on helmet >liners, they tried it on other smelly things, such as leathers...and >to quote the article, "The results were amazing." > >So I picked some of the California Cleanser up at my local Honda shop >and used it last night on my helmet...and I was "amazed" at the >results. The spray cleaner totally neutralized the odors! > >So if your liner's gettin' gamey and you can't stand the smell, treat >it nice with some California Helmet Liner Cleanser and yer nose'll >thank ya as well! > >Tim >Portland, OR >'94 PC800--58,755 Miles and Going For Infinity! > >"Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that >you're promised tomorrow." >-- Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 23:21:29 +0200 To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Bandenkeuze PC At 15:00 08-08-97 -0400, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: >Gerard, Help! > >My German is nearly gone, and my Dutch was never there. It appears that H. >Snoek is recommending an alternative tire setup for the PC, but beyond that I >can't seem to sift anything else out. Ok I will help you out. -------------------------------Translated message from H.Snoek ------------------------------------ He says that he has tried different setups, and that there is very little choice for tires. He used Yokohama's and Conti Blitz but they wear out to fast. His current choice is: fornt: Bridgestone 110/80 -17 G547F of Battlax BT35F (They are ok for approx. 11.250 miles) rear: Conti Tour 150/90 -15 TK17 (approx. 15.625 miles). Previous tires were cone after about 7500 miles He rides every day (summer or winter), so he has expierience in all kind of weather types The Conti Tour (150/90 -15) is a bit to wide for PC, but has no problems with them (yet!). -----------------------------------------------The End---------------------------------------------------------- That's was the message he send. Clad I could be of any service. Gerard Pacific Coast Netherlands Gerard Diepeveen pcn@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 ------------------------------------------- visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SNP12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:29 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:01:30 -0700 Subject: PC800: Spare In The Garage? From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Y'know, if I could convince Nan that it wasn't the insane and inane ramblings that she knows, loves, and ignores... I'd think real seriously about putting Ducati's new ST2 in the garage next to the StealthMobile... Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SNQ12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:29 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:09:19 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:01:51 -0700 PILEWIS1 writes: >P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the differential? Phil, Phil, Phil! Weren't you listening at all? You have to use motorcycle-specific anti-freeze in the differential or you'll corrode the parts! Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SNT12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:29 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:01 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:08:49 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to anti-freeze for the >differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince > >--------------------------- >> P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the >> differential? I could just imagine someone logging onto this list at the tail-end of this thread...and quietly tip-toeing back off, shaking their head about the whole lot of us! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SNS12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:29 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:15:19 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Piper, Scot A. wrote: >> How do you handle tailgaters? I found about 80% of the time all I had to do is turn around and look at them for a second and then go back to the business of riding. They'd usually back off. The other 20% I just waited until I could get out of their way without giving up my space (never pull to the right in your own lane and slow down...it's an invitation to mayhem). But after I heard about the guy who got into an altercation with a tailgater a few days ago that ultimately got shot, I'm having second thoughts about any confrontation at all. Of course, the guy on the bike was an idiot to chase the antagonist, IMHO. This Road Rage thing is getting far too serious... Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SNF12721; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:00:14 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: name calling From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:50:45 -0700 Guy & Sonya writes: >Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I have a >new name for my PC800? I usually just smile at such remarks and ask what they ride. Since they normally don't, they usually shut up. If they do ride, I ask 'em if they've put on (XXX miles...in my case, 58K) never had a single breakdown, and average 50mpg? Then I tell 'em that if they have, they have the right to call my bike anything they want. Never had a conversation go past that point.... Well, actually I did. At a restaurant I stopped at in May, there were a couple Harley riders (Sportsters) coming out when I was parking. One of them commented to the other "What a sissy bike". I'm not what you call an aggressive person, but that corked me. So I asked him if he'd ever ridden to Daytona, to which he replied "No. So what?" And I said "I rode that sissy bike to Daytona this year--the northern route through Wyoming and South Dakota in February--without a single problem. So...until you do that...who's riding the sissy bike?" I was treading on thin ice, but I didn't care. He just looked at me for a second, smiled, and said "A bike's a bike, I guess!" The rest of the conversation went much smoother--he actually admitted that he'd heard some pretty good things about the Pacific Coast. Oh, yeah, and I showed them the trunk...! Another convert... >A guy at work saw it for the first time today, and said there was way too much plastic in >the back. When I popped the trunk, he just said WOW, that's cool. Now he's a >believer in plastic (not the credit card kind)! The trunk gets 'em every time! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,755 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:07:59 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:06:44 -0400 From: Bernie Subject: PC800: J&M AudioPak To: PC 800 Pacific Coast I saw an add today in "Rider" for The CB Personal AudioPak by J&M of = Tucson. The Personal AudioPak consist of a Midland CB Radio with 40 = channels with a built in FM turner. One of the local motorcycle dealers = here in KC is an authorized installer. Has anyone tried you of these = units on a PC? For $565, including headset institution, the AudioPak is = an interesting deal. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:25:30 -0700 "Re: PC800: tailgaters" (Aug 8, 3:15pm) To: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy), PILEWIS1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Unless you can strafe these idiots with a hail-storm of hot, molten, 50cal. lead from your handlebar-mounted machine-gun (how would you alter a Rifle screen for that? Hmmmm....), there's no point in chasing after them (there's also the possiblity of being like Dirty Harry and carrying "the world's most powerful handgun" in a gas-tank mounted holster) ;-) Just a thought ;) Ramin (I really should roll back on the caffeine) Keyvan On Aug 8, 3:15pm, Timothy B Macy wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters > Piper, Scot A. wrote: > > > But after I heard about the guy who got into an altercation with a > tailgater a few days ago that ultimately got shot, I'm having second > thoughts about any confrontation at all. Of course, the guy on the bike > was an idiot to chase the antagonist, IMHO. This Road Rage thing is > getting far too serious... > > Tim > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:54:09 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: tailgaters <33E8F9A7.10A3@concentric.net> <19970808.153618.22406.19.timmacy@juno.com> At 16:25 8/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >Unless you can strafe these idiots with a hail-storm of hot, molten, 50cal. >lead from your handlebar-mounted machine-gun (how would you alter a Rifle >screen for that? Hmmmm....), there's no point in chasing after them (there's >also the possiblity of being like Dirty Harry and carrying "the world's most >powerful handgun" in a gas-tank mounted holster) ;-) The only good reason that I can think of to chase them is to keep them painted with your laser, so that your under-the-crash-pod mounted missiles can home in on their cage (don't forget to wear your asbestos riding boots!) :-} Have a good weekend everyone, and beware of tailgaters (and heavily armed PC's) Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 20:00:16 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: Off Subject (Yet Again...) I was pleasantly surprised to find that there actually *is* a CB-750 list. This list apparently makes no distinction between a 1969 "Sand Cast" CB-750, a 1997 Nighthawk, or anything in between. They seem to be a pleasant and intelligent bunch of people. (Then again, I haven't introduced myself yet to the list, thereby bringing down property values...) I'll probably be weaning myself from the PC list in the not too distant future. Until then, I'll try not to offend anyone... ;-) gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 17:26:12 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: "J. MARK VENABLE" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Anti-freeze in the differential (was spam, spam, etc J. MARK VENABLE wrote: > Vince, that's because you have to put 45 psi of air in the > differential. The > antifreeze goes in the tires. or not > > Mark Venable > '90 PC, 10100 miles > "This End Up" > > -------- > >Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to > anti-freeze > >for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince > > ---------- > >> P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the > >> differential? > > Now I'm all confused. I thought coolant went into that trap door thingie in front of the seat, and gas went into the tires. No wonder I can't get the nozzle into those little tire fillers. E. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Differential Anxiety. Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:06:35 -0400 Was that the same year they elimnated the tie rods in the steering assembly? Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com [SMTP:JTSMCRIDER@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 3:01 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Differential Anxiety. In a message dated 97-08-08 10:18:37 EDT, Vince writes: << Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to anti-freeze for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince >> No, Vince. Your book is fine. The problem is that your PC has no differential. That feature was removed after the '87 model year. Apparently, the problem was that with the anti-freeze in it, the damned thing kept freezing up at speeds over 100 mph. Even though the problem may have been due to silicates in the Prestone many owners substituted for the approved Honda brand, the factory chose to modify the design rather than face the swarm of lawsuits that would surely come from irate owners who chose to ignore the warning labels on the "tank" and the cautions in their owner's manuals to save the $1.50 a gallon price differential (hmmmm?). Their fix was to put in a single-wheel drive unit at the back and lubricate it with the more conventional hypoid oil. This update also has made the bike a lot easier to lean into turns. I hope this relieves your anxiety over this matter. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: Royal Treatment... Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:11:39 -0400 Timothy B Macy wrote: >IMVHO, the '94 and '95's black is the most beautiful color on the Pacific >Coast when it's cleaned up like the StealthMobile's Royal Treatment >today. and besides the black is SEXY! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Bernie'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: J&M AudioPak Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:30:11 -0400 errrr... Bernie, perhaps I'm missing something here but Midland sells conventional CB radios for $39.95 RETAIL Now I realize this is a specialized application but gee whiz, $565???? Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bernie [SMTP:applebit@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 7:07 PM To: PC 800 Pacific Coast Subject: PC800: J&M AudioPak I saw an add today in "Rider" for The CB Personal AudioPak by J&M of Tucson. The Personal AudioPak consist of a Midland CB Radio with 40 channels with a built in FM turner. One of the local motorcycle dealers here in KC is an authorized installer. Has anyone tried you of these units on a PC? For $565, including headset institution, the AudioPak is an interesting deal. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: tailgaters Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:32:11 -0400 Ok, I'll make a controversial statement; this should generate some really interesting discussion..... Actually, a 9mm, .44 or some other LARGE handgun visibly strapped to your belt might be a strong deterrent to being abused by motorists. It's completely legal here in redneck land and although I never noticed anyone doing this, it's probably been done. Would you attempt to run some one off the road who's crazy enough to wear a gun? Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timothy B Macy [SMTP:timmacy@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 6:15 PM To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Piper, Scot A. wrote: >> How do you handle tailgaters? I found about 80% of the time all I had to do is turn around and look at them for a second and then go back to the business of riding. They'd usually back off. The other 20% I just waited until I could get out of their way without giving up my space (never pull to the right in your own lane and slow down...it's an invitation to mayhem). But after I heard about the guy who got into an altercation with a tailgater a few days ago that ultimately got shot, I'm having second thoughts about any confrontation at all. Of course, the guy on the bike was an idiot to chase the antagonist, IMHO. This Road Rage thing is getting far too serious... Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'Timothy B Macy'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: Spare In The Garage? Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:20:36 -0400 Tim, DON'T DO IT! They'll never get along. To begin with, the PC being Japanese is so smug it will be unwilling to speak Italian and I'm not sure the Ducati could master Japanese even if it tries. Besides, this whole affair would end up giving the Ducati a terrible inferiority complex and just plain piss off the PC. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timothy B Macy [SMTP:timmacy@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 6:02 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Spare In The Garage? Y'know, if I could convince Nan that it wasn't the insane and inane ramblings that she knows, loves, and ignores... I'd think real seriously about putting Ducati's new ST2 in the garage next to the StealthMobile... Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:17:52 -0700 "FW: PC800: tailgaters" (Aug 8, 8:32pm) To: Jim Randall , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters Hey! Works for me! Whatever the caliber, though, the rounds ***MUST*** be armor piercing! Why? Think about it: 1000+ feet/second velocity + the insides of a tailgating internal cumbustion engine = one hell of a mess! :-) and "no tailgater". Siezed and cracked engines make tailgating very difficult ;). Ramin On Aug 8, 8:32pm, Jim Randall wrote: > Subject: FW: PC800: tailgaters > Ok, I'll make a controversial statement; this should generate some really > interesting discussion..... > > Actually, a 9mm, .44 or some other LARGE handgun visibly strapped > to your belt might be a strong deterrent to being abused by motorists. > It's completely legal here in redneck land and although I never noticed > anyone doing this, it's probably been done. Would you attempt to run > some one off the road who's crazy enough to wear a gun? > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 19:06:05 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Spam, Spam, And Yet More Spam... <33E911BC.B75@etgn14.webo.dg.com> <33EA9A2F.3339@concentric.net> <19970808.153618.22406.17.timmacy@juno.com> Timothy B Macy wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:01:51 -0700 PILEWIS1 > writes: > > >P.S.- How many quarts of Prestone anti-freeze are needed in the > differential? > > Phil, Phil, Phil! Weren't you listening at all? You have to use > motorcycle-specific anti-freeze in the differential or you'll corrode the > parts! > O.K., O.K., O.K., I got it, I got it, I got it (please imagine the voice of Joe Pesci, as I've been told I resemble him a little), but I still don't know how many quarts to add!? ;) Phil p.s.-Is this fun, or should we all quit while we're ahead?! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 16:46:17 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: maryann@new-mind.com Subject: PC800: ISP service Dear group, This is a little off topic, but affect us all here, so i would appreciate your bearing with me. My ISP is Earthlink.net. Most evenings, it takes 5 tries to log on with them. If I don't poll the net frequently, I time out and get disconnected. Although I have a 28.8 modem, my link to them is rarely at that speed, usually it's 26.4. I have a freind in FL who is experiencing similar problems with GTE, and we all know about the problems at AOL. In all these cases, we are paying for supposedly unlimited access. Worse, many of the ISP's are telephone co's like PacBel, GTE, NYNEX, MCI, Sprint and AT&T. These companies are regulated to provide a standard of service for telephone connections, that they are not required to meet for connections to their servers. I feel we are being cheated, and that it's long past time that the state utility commissions, impose the same standards of service for internet access that they do for telephone. the technology is the same. The problem is that ISP's don't want to spend the money needed to provide the unlimited service we're paying for. If it weren't law, I doubt the phone companies would meet present standards. It's time for a law. If you feel as i do, please let your representatives know. Write your editors, and especially, your ISP's. Let's put them on notice, that we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore. Thanks for staying with me, Alan Taylor 95 PC "Midnight" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 16:46:32 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: maryann@new-mind.com Subject: PC800: ISP service Dear group, This is a little off topic, but affect us all here, so i would appreciate your bearing with me. My ISP is Earthlink.net. Most evenings, it takes 5 tries to log on with them. If I don't poll the net frequently, I time out and get disconnected. Although I have a 28.8 modem, my link to them is rarely at that speed, usually it's 26.4. I have a freind in FL who is experiencing similar problems with GTE, and we all know about the problems at AOL. In all these cases, we are paying for supposedly unlimited access. Worse, many of the ISP's are telephone co's like PacBel, GTE, NYNEX, MCI, Sprint and AT&T. These companies are regulated to provide a standard of service for telephone connections, that they are not required to meet for connections to their servers. I feel we are being cheated, and that it's long past time that the state utility commissions, impose the same standards of service for internet access that they do for telephone. the technology is the same. The problem is that ISP's don't want to spend the money needed to provide the unlimited service we're paying for. If it weren't law, I doubt the phone companies would meet present standards. It's time for a law. If you feel as i do, please let your representatives know. Write your editors, and especially, your ISP's. Let's put them on notice, that we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore. Thanks for staying with me, Alan Taylor 95 PC "Midnight" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 19:14:50 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Jim Randall CC: "'Timothy B Macy'" , "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Spare In The Garage? Jim Randall wrote: > > Tim, DON'T DO IT! They'll never get along. To begin with, the PC being > Japanese is so smug it will be unwilling to speak Italian and I'm not sure > the Ducati could master Japanese even if it tries. Besides, this whole > affair would end up giving the Ducati a terrible inferiority complex and > just plain piss off the PC. > > Jim Randall > jrandall@tricon.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy B Macy [SMTP:timmacy@juno.com] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 1997 6:02 PM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Spare In The Garage? > > Y'know, if I could convince Nan that it wasn't the insane and inane > ramblings that she knows, loves, and ignores... > > I'd think real seriously about putting Ducati's new ST2 in the garage > next to the StealthMobile... > > Tim > -- Besides, if they did get to liking each other (really well), what would the offspring be like?! (sorry, I just couldn't resist!!) Phil -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 19:30:01 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters <33E8F9A7.10A3@concentric.net> <19970808.153618.22406.19.timmacy@juno.com> <3.0.2.32.19970808155409.006b7ba8@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> Just a quick tailgating story. While in the carpool lane on a relatively empty stretch of So. Cal freeway (for that time of day, about 2:00pm), a car runs right up to my tail, within a few feet from my rear wheel. I can't exit the lane at this point (minimum $271 fine) so I speed up to about 80 and guess what, he's still on my bumper and flashing his headlights. Finally, we reach the carpool exit space and before I can do anything, he pulls up next to me on my right side, holds up 2 fingers, and shouts at the top of his lungs "TWO PEOPLE FOR THE CARPOOL LANE!!" He then cuts in front of me at a dangerously close distance, and speeds away. Not only did this idiot endanger my life by driving this way, he felt it was his extreme duty and right to make sure that I was obeying the law and staying out of HIS carpool lane. Of course, the idiot obviously didn't know that motorcyles riders don't have to have two people to use this lane. My emotions went from annoyance to shock to anger to disbelief. I thought about tailing him until he stopped to have a "civil" word with him, but I probably would have ended up with a bullet in my helmet. Sorry to have rambled on longer than I should have. Phil -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 2893500 ; Fri, 08 Aug 1997 22:33:53 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 22:38:14 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: mashaw@mindspring.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda/Kenwood AM/FM radio I have scanned my HondaLine stereo manual. It took 5 scans, each one is about 80k in a .jpg format. There are 2 pages of the manual per scan, saved in size 800 x 600. I printed a copy and it's barely readable. I do have OCR software, but didn't try it because of all the graphics. I should probably go back and scan each page one at a time so it will be easier to read. Let me know if you'd like a copy (total of 350k for 5 .jpg files), or where I can send it so it can be posted on the web for everyone to download a copy. ************* * Scot * * '89 PC800 * * Venus * ************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- PILEWIS1 wrote: > > Scot Piper wrote: > > > > Monty, > > > I have a copy of the Hondaline manual. I'd be willing to scan it and > > e-mail to anyone interested. > > > > Scot > > '89 PC800 Venus > > Hi Scot! > > If you'd like to scan it and save it as a text file (or .jpg if it has > pertinent pictures and text) and send it to me, I can put it on my > server space and everyone who wants a copy, can upload it from there. > > Take care, > > Phil > > -- > ******************** > * * > * Phil Lewis * > * So-Cal * > * '90 PC * > * "Delta Red" * > * Enjoying The Ride! * > * * > ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 19:37:51 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: scotp1965@mdn.net CC: mashaw@mindspring.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda/Kenwood AM/FM radio Scot Piper wrote: > > I have scanned my HondaLine stereo manual. It took 5 scans, each one is > about 80k in a .jpg format. There are 2 pages of the manual per scan, > saved in size 800 x 600. I printed a copy and it's barely readable. I > do have OCR software, but didn't try it because of all the graphics. I > should probably go back and scan each page one at a time so it will be > easier to read. > > Let me know if you'd like a copy (total of 350k for 5 .jpg files), or > where I can send it so it can be posted on the web for everyone to > download a copy. > > ************* > * Scot * > * '89 PC800 * > * Venus * > ************* Hi Scot! Go ahead and send it me, I'll expect the long download time. If it's not too legible, I'll try and enhance it with photoshop, and then I'll make a URL for it. Phil -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:22:59 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Randy D. Bailey" Subject: PC800: Bearings Imagine my disbelief when I noticed a pool of sticky greenish oil dripping from my muffler this morning. Of course I immediately imagined the worst. But nothing prepared me for what the dealer told me when I got it there... I would never traded in my Zundapp ISDT replica on the PC800 if I had known the 1989 year was prone to muffler bearing failure. I got on this list prior to buying my Pacific Coast and asked what to expect in maintenance and must have received 150 messages warning of tire rubbing and medium speed wobbles and someting about a stator. But not one of you told me about the muffler bearing failure rate! I'm disappointed in all of you so-called PC experts. What's even worse is with UPS on strike I'll have to wait weeks for the parts to come in. Does anyone have a spare set of the bearings for an '89? I'm hoping that one of you guys running straight pipes have your old muffler hanging on your garage wall and you can help. Thanks in advance! ============================================================== Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 Chandler, AZ USA 85226 DoD #1661 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 22:10:48 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters <33E8F9A7.10A3@concentric.net> <19970808.153618.22406.19.timmacy@juno.com> <3.0.2.32.19970808155409.006b7ba8@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> <33EBD629.7707@concentric.net> PILEWIS1 wrote: > Just a quick tailgating story. > > While in the carpool lane on a relatively empty stretch of So. Cal > freeway (for that time of day, about 2:00pm), a car runs right up to > my > tail, within a few feet from my rear wheel. I can't exit the lane at > this point (minimum $271 fine) so I speed up to about 80 and guess > what, > he's still on my bumper and flashing his headlights. > > Finally, we reach the carpool exit space and before I can do anything, > > he pulls up next to me on my right side, holds up 2 fingers, and > shouts > at the top of his lungs "TWO PEOPLE FOR THE CARPOOL LANE!!" He then > cuts in front of me at a dangerously close distance, and speeds away. > > Not only did this idiot endanger my life by driving this way, he felt > it > was his extreme duty and right to make sure that I was obeying the law > > and staying out of HIS carpool lane. Of course, the idiot obviously > didn't know that motorcyles riders don't have to have two people to > use > this lane. > > My emotions went from annoyance to shock to anger to disbelief. I > thought about tailing him until he stopped to have a "civil" word with > > him, but I probably would have ended up with a bullet in my helmet. > > Sorry to have rambled on longer than I should have. > > Phil I think I would prefer to just get his license plate number and place a call to the highway patrol (maybe even file a complaint). No bullets, no fist fights, no more (hopefully) direct confrontations. E. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECH28917; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 04:30:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:00:46 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Off Subject (Yet Again...) From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 08 Aug 1997 20:00:16 -0400 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >I'll probably be weaning myself from the PC list in the not too distant future. Until then, >I'll try not to offend anyone... ;-) Gary, speaking for myself, I'll miss your presence on the PC list. Sometimes we're just too nice for our own good and we need a little shakin' up! You always spoke your mind and I thought your technical (and other) input was well received. Hope to ride down the same road with you some day in the future, Gary. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--58,787 Miles and Going For Infinity! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECC28917; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 04:30:53 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 23:31:59 -0700 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:32:11 -0400 Jim Randall writes: >Ok, I'll make a controversial statement; this should generate some really interesting >discussion..... > >Actually, a 9mm, .44 or some other LARGE handgun visibly strapped to your belt >might be a strong deterrent to being abused by motorists. It's completely legal here in >redneck land and although I never noticed anyone doing this, it's probably been done. >Would you attempt to run some one off the road who's crazy enough to wear a gun? Interesting that you should bring that up. I've got a high school friend in Wisconsin who, a few years back, had a synapse snap after a run-in with a enraged cager. He strapped a pistol on his hip, rode his motorcycle back out to the section of I-90 that runs between Milwaukee and Madison, and started snapping off shots at drivers that threatened his personal space. Since he was a Vietnam Vet, he was diagnosed as suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome and the State gave him his own personal rubber room for a while. I'm not sure what happened to him after that. Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EDL28917; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 04:51:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 01:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Bearings From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:22:59 -0700 "Randy D. Bailey" writes: >Imagine my disbelief when I noticed a pool of sticky greenish oil dripping from my >muffler this morning. > >I'm disappointed in all of you so-called PC experts... Randy! You moron! Don't get on here and blast us when it's your own damned fault! If you'd bothered to go to the archives (like we tell everybody...but do they listen? Noooo!), you would have found a big post warning about the '89's problems with muffler bearings! It was right under the post from JT warning about the occasional failure of the Automatic BS Detector Program on this listserver!!!!! Smugly and Self-Righteously, Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 06:29:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Performance Computers To: Alan Taylor cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, maryann@new-mind.com Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service As the Sales Director for ISDN-Net, Inc, the regional ISP for Business based in Nashville, TN, I can tell tou there are all kinds of providers with all levels of service. If you are dependent on the Internet for your business or personal needs find an ISP with a business focus and be prepared to pay a little more for service that's not unlimited. For your reference, ours is $19.95 credit card 100 hr/month, $24.95 invoiced 100 hr/month and $24.95 for 64K ISDN dial in, $34.95-39.95 for 128K ISDN dial in. If you cannot find a dependable local provider, get an AT&T Worldnet account for $19.95 unlimited. AT&T has never oversold their capacity. Claude Hill The Sobe GhoST On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Alan Taylor wrote: > Dear group, > > This is a little off topic, but affect us all here, so i would > appreciate your bearing with me. > > My ISP is Earthlink.net. Most evenings, it takes 5 tries to log on with > them. If I don't poll the net frequently, I time out and get > disconnected. Although I have a 28.8 modem, my link to them is rarely at > that speed, usually it's 26.4. > > I have a freind in FL who is experiencing similar problems with GTE, and > we all know about the problems at AOL. > > In all these cases, we are paying for supposedly unlimited access. > > Worse, many of the ISP's are telephone co's like PacBel, GTE, NYNEX, > MCI, Sprint and AT&T. These companies are regulated to provide a > standard of service for telephone connections, that they are not > required to meet for connections to their servers. > > I feel we are being cheated, and that it's long past time that the state > utility commissions, impose the same standards of service for internet > access that they do for telephone. the technology is the same. > > The problem is that ISP's don't want to spend the money needed to > provide the unlimited service we're paying for. > > If it weren't law, I doubt the phone companies would meet present > standards. It's time for a law. > > If you feel as i do, please let your representatives know. Write your > editors, and especially, your ISP's. Let's put them on notice, that > we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore. > > Thanks for staying with me, > > Alan Taylor > 95 PC "Midnight" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 07:38:49 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: ka2wij@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, maryann@new-mind.com Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Alan Taylor wrote: > > My ISP is Earthlink.net. Most evenings, it takes 5 tries to log on with > them. If I don't poll the net frequently, I time out and get > disconnected. Although I have a 28.8 modem, my link to them is rarely at > that speed, usually it's 26.4. On the other end of the spectrum is my ISP, SNET (Southern New England Telephone). Always get a connection first time, never less than 28.8k and maybe 15% of the time it will be 31.2k. $14.95 for 40 hours with a cap of $19.95. (Basically unlimited usage) No complaints. Am I the exception? gk ps: No inactivity disconnect either... ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 05:53:16 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service To: ka2wij@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: maryann@new-mind.com On Fri, 08 Aug 1997, Alan Taylor wrote: >Dear group, >If it weren't law, I doubt the phone companies would meet present >standards. It's time for a law. > >If you feel as i do, please let your representatives know. Write your >editors, and especially, your ISP's. Let's put them on notice, that >we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore. > >Thanks for staying with me, > >Alan Taylor >95 PC "Midnight" i am sorry ... however i disagree ... keep the government out of our lives as much as possible ... if you do not like your service ... switch to a different service ... if enuf people move the company will either provide better service or go out of business ... no more laws ... think about your bike ... you are riding a bike ... you do not have enuf insurance ... we will make you buy more insurance because of you riding a bike ... cagers do not have to buy the insurance .... live free and no new laws ... we have the power to improve things ... it just means doing a little work to get things improved ... it congress does it ... the cost of services will climb so high that a large number of people can not afford the net ... please no new laws ... we are in enuf trouble with the laws we have ... my .02 .... :) bob and grace parker http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id MLE17512; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 12:04:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: bmwmc@world.std.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:52:06 -0400 Subject: PC800: Laptop/notebook wanted or needed From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) Hi gang(s), Well, it looks like I'm going to be going to Elko, NV middle of next week for 2-3 months. This is a temporary job with a company that provides traveling X-Ray Techs. Now, the problem is I need a laptop or notebook or sub-notebook to be able to get my email and stuff. Other problem is a distinct lack of funds. If anyone has an older model that I can beg, borrow, steal, rent, or buy very, very cheaply, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. I'm looking for a 386 or newer. At least a 2400 baud modem but I can use one of my external modems if it has an external comm port . B/W or color doesn't matter. With the 386-2400bps, I can at least use Juno to get my email. Web searches would be slow,but possible. Anyway, any help appreciated. Ride safe. Myles ********************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---"You can lead a horse to water,but if you can get it to roll over & bark, you really have something!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id MLD17512; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 12:04:49 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: bmwmc@world.std.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:51:45 -0400 Subject: PC800: LOOKOUT ELKO, NEVADA--HERE I COME!!!!!!! From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) Hi again. As the subject says, LOOK OUT!!! Since I can't find steady work here in Tampa Bay, I've signed up with a company that supplies temporary work for X-Ray techs on a nationwide basis. Assignments can be a couple of weeks up to 13 weeks or more. Pays better than locally, airfare, lodging, rental car(usually) provided. Some companies even offer a per diem for food. Anyway, I'll be leaving for Elko, NV Tuesday or Wednesday and will be there for a minimum of 9 weeks and maximum of 13 weeks with possible extensions. I plan on taking my riding gear in case I: (1) find a cheap bike to buy out there, (2) find one to rent during an off weekend, (3) find one of you to lend me one when I want to get away. Thanks in advance, and I hope to be able to meet some of you in the near future. Myles ****************************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---"You can lead a horse to water,but if you can get it to roll over & bark, you really have something!" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:40:55 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Honda Homecoming Trip Report I know, I know...it's long overdue...but I've been busy! Hi folks..following is a lengthy post about my trip to the Honda Homecoming, held in Marysville, Ohio at the end of July. I left Ottawa, Canada on the morning of July 23rd, at about 7:30 in the morning. The shortest route for me would have taken me south of Lake Ontario, but I was meeting with a friend in Ajax, Ontario (also a list member, but recently bought an ST1100 so his loyalties are changing!!) . We both left from Ajax at about 1:00 p.m. and then headed towards Niagara Falls. For those of you that have never driven on Toronto's highway 401, you haven't known fear. I have driven bikes and cages all over the US, Canada, and some of Europe. By far, the worst place to drive is in the Toronto area. Now I know we all have bad drivers in our neighbourhood, and I'm sure many of you have worse drivers than we have, but the problem with the 401 through Toronto is the sheer volume of lousy drivers. I have never liked driving through that stretch of road on a bike or in a cage. (and I was driving in Times Square a few weeks ago!) Anyhow....I got sidetracked. We got to Niagara and parked our bikes on the side of the road and got a good close look at the falls, and also a few pictures with the digital camera for my electronic scrapbook. After crossing into the US, we headed down the New York Thruway Toll highway, (I-90) spending about $10 for the two bikes. We did have one fun experience with the border crossing. We were parked side by side at the toll booth to cross the bridge into th eUS, and when I paid for both bikes, I drove away. Hal, my friend on the ST1100 followed about 1 second behind. It turns out that the 'magic eye sensor' saw me leave, and lowered the toll gate just as Hal was letting go of the clutch and pulling away. That's when he discovered that particular gate was foam. Good thing! I had some business in Cleveland the next morning, so we stopped there for the night. After taking care of business, we left Cleveland around lunch time, and headed down the I-71 to Delaware, then turned off onto the 36 to go to Marysville. We had been told by someone who attended a few years ago that their are lots of hotels within a 30 mile radius, so we hadn't reserved any rooms. When we got to Marysville, the first person we spoke too commented on how everything within a hundred miles was sold out. Yikes!!! We went to the nearest hotel, to get on a waiting list in case there were a couple of no-shows on non-confirmed rooms, and to use the air conditioned lobby for the pay phone to find something. Well...we lucked out. As we walked into the lobby, the clerk had just gotten two cancellations. Wow..talk about perfect timing! We went to the factory in Marysville to check in, since we had pre-registered. They looked up our names, and handed over a small bright red zippered bag, about the size of a mens travelling kit for shaver, deodarant, etc. In this bag was the meal ticket for the buffet supper, a coupon for the door prize drawing (1998 Valkyrie) and a few other odds and ends, including my favourite item, a pocket size Rand-McNally road atlas. Way cool! They were also selling goods from past Honda Homecomings, with ALL proceeds going to charity, to benefit the research for pediatric brain tumours. I picked up a 1993 Homecoming T-shirt with the word STAFF across the front and back, for $5.00 We checked out the vendor expo area, but it was closing for the night so we decided to come back in the morning. There were alot of really neat things for sale at the vendor expo. since the majority of the attendees were riding 'Wings, the available accessories were biased that way. I picked up a simple device called a Throttle Rocker, for about $7. It is a piece of plastic that is curled around the throttle grip and then extends out towards the driver, and fits really nicely under your palm when you drive. It basically lets you use the position of your palm to maintain the throttle position, which allows you to relax your grip on the throttle and stretch your fingers. I found on the ride home that my hand was much more comfortable and relaxed. Also, as an added benefit, since your palm is helping with the throttle control, I found that I could keep my fingers rested on the brake lever, for a quicker response. On the friday morning we got to the factory at about 7:45, and we lined up for a tour of the factory. We watched the Shadow and Valkyrie get built, as well as they Honda Four-Trax ATV. They were pumping out 590 of these ATV's every day! Wow...quite the market. The Valkyrie/Shadow line was running at about 160 units a day. I really liked watching them build the cruisers. In one spot there is a frame with an engine, and then about 100 feet down the line, some guy is starting it up, then running it on the Dyno up to about 100 miles per hour. They test acceleration, braking, etc., then drive the bike down the ramp into a storage area, where the biikes are prepped for shipping to another Honda facility down the road where the bikes are crated for shipping to the dealers. Once the tour was over, we decided to head down to Springfiled, about 30 miles away, to check out Competition Accessories. Some of you may have seen their multipage adds in the motorcycle magazines. They boast about their 64,000 sq. foot store. Well, I wasn't impressed. The store was big, but the selection was not as varied as I had hoped. Instead of 30 kinds of riding pants, they had 4 kinds, but 100 or more pairs.... I did purchase a new helmet. The vendors at the Honda Homecoming did not have the Arai Quantum/e with vents, and comp-A did, so I picked it up for $349. I could have gotten it cheaper from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse by Mail-order, but then shipping to Canada, and the duties and taxes, would have eliminated any potential savings. I did discover one major down side. The helmet is an X-large, and does NOT fit in the PC's trunk! Major bummer! I was not happy at all! The Saturday night buffet supper was impressive. There had to be at least three thousand people there, and everyone had started supper within 45 minutes of opening the feed line. They were well organized to feed such a large group. We did try to get on the list for a demo ride of various bikes, but it was next to impossible, even though they had quite a few of each model on hand. The tent openned at 8:30 in the morning, but people had started to line up at 7:15 or so. By 8:45, the entire day had been booked on the Valkyrie, ST1100, Shadow, etc. Also, one thing I really found interesting is that the PC800 was booked as well. It looks like they are starting to get more popular. We left Sunday a.m., bright and early, and had decided to avoid the intersate and take some back roads. Except for a fewe miles, we were on back roads from Marysville up to the Buffalo area. The ride was just perfect! The roads were quite nice, and we drove through Amish country. It was fun to see so many horse drawn carriages on the road. We arrived in Ajax sunday night at around 10:00, a bit tired but not to bad considering. I left there monday morning, drove in the rain for a couple of hours, and arrived back home in Ottawa, having put 1800 miles on Waltzing Matilda during this trip. So...would I do it again? Yup! In a heart beat Would I change anything? ...I need a better seat for long distance....but everything else was great. I have the SAENG windshield moulding trim, and it worked fine for my particular size. I was very impressed with my gas mileage. We were cruising between 75 and 80 most of the way, and at first I was stopping at 140 miles, but would only take 2.4 gallons. After a while, I was comfortable with going to over 180 miles before stopping for gas. I worked my mileage out to be about 51 miles to the US gallon. Not bad...not bad at all! Throughout the trip, whenever we would stop for gas, we would compare quantities. The ST1100 always needed just a bit more gas than the PC would need. Overall, it was a great trip, and I really enjoyed it. I haven't heard anyone else here mention the Homecoming event. Were any of you there? I did see about a dozen or so PC800's. Thanks for hanging around this long, and I hope you enjoyed the trip report. fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda 3400 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Russell C. Jackson" To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: PC800: ISP service Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:12:52 -0700 I would just like to say that I completely agree with you! If anything, let's get the government out of our lives some. People don't want to do anything anymore it seems like, they want someone to do it for them no matter what the cost to the rest of us. Rusty ===================================================== Russell C. 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To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Garbacik To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Being Bumped! Hi All- Kinda following along the tailgating thread - Friday on my way to work I was stopped at a Y type intersection, turn signal on, brake light on, waiting for a large truck to clear the intersection before I pulled out. Out of the corner of my eye I suddenly see chrome! A big 'ol Ford LTD (in a stunning peeling copper color) was splitting the lane with me (at a stop sign). Ok, wierd, but I can handle that. Turn head, check road again. Another truck. Feel BUMP. Look to right again. Bumper of LTD is against rear crash bar cover. Get pissed off. Turn head, check road. Clear. Go. LTD right behind me. Make right hand turn ASAP to leave road. Pull off. Pull out cell phone. Call local cops. Nothing. Call State cops. Something. (Person who answered is MSF instructor.) Continue to work. Pass LTD with State cop car behind it. Grin. Later that day I checked in with the State cop. That person in the LTD ended up with a few items to think about: Leaving the scene (I have a new scratch), following too close, trying to elude (in a '78 LTD??), driving without proof of insurance, expired registration, and driving without (required) glasses. It was a good Friday after all. Oh yeah- the scratch rubbed right out. Looks like it was mainly something guky off of the LTD. I don't want to know what! Tom '89 (Moonbeam? is that taken?) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA00496 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:14:21 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Cost to replace plastic? I was recently in a wipe out with my '90 PC- bike is structurally ok, but slid into guardrail and both sides of the front plastic need replacing, My question- anyone- know how much it might cost to get about half the plastic on the bike replaced? Just looking for a rough estimate if anyone else knows... Mike V. mvervelde@aol.com Stockton, CA '90 PC Bought used in EXCELLENT condition, and low miles! Great find... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:08:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Witzell To: Tom Garbacik cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Being Bumped! On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Tom Garbacik wrote: > Pass LTD with State cop car behind it. Grin. Tom, Great ending! What State? Did you try to protect your lane? I setup to block all other traffic from passing me on the right in a left hand turn. I never try never to enter an intersection at a light with a long stream of on-comming traffic when I want to turn left. I wait till it's clear then scoot thu... sometimes I have to listen to some NY type driver blow his/her horn, but once they see me stand my ground they stop tooting. I don't get mad, I just want to get through in a safety. Other times I turn right and reverse direction to get across in the other direction with traffic. I try never to hurry left turns in traffic. Nick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:12:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Witzell To: MVerVelde@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Cost to replace plastic? On Sat, 9 Aug 1997 MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: > I was recently in a wipe out with my '90 PC- bike is structurally ok, but Mike, You ok? What caused your misfortune? Just asking you to share you experience so as to help the rest of us learn from your misfortune. Nick ps, I can't help with the plastic. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Dave Bartlett , Guy & Sonya From: "Frederic K. Misumi" Subject: Re: PC800: name calling Cc: PC800 List Server While I was waiting at the ferry docks late one night, a little gal in the next car yelled out "NICE BIKE!!!" from the back seat of her father's aging Subaru hatchback. I had to chuckle at this. The father wasn't disturbed in his conversation with his boy that was in the passenger seat next to him, but when he got out of the car to fetch his adventurous daughter, he paused with a hard stare the sleeping Pearl and grunted: "This IS a NICE BIKE!!!" I chuckled again. When the arriving ferry unloaded it's first batch of motorists -- motorcycles, the little lady kept yelling: "NICE BIKE!!!" to each one that zipped by. What a night for chuckles! At 12:04 AM 8/7/97 -0400, Dave Bartlett wrote: >On Wed, Aug 06, 1997 at 08:50:45PM -0700, Guy & Sonya wrote: >-> Hey, someone called my '89 a "Hondapotamus". Should I be offended or do I >-> have a new name for my PC800? >-> >-> A guy at work saw it for the first time today, and said there was way too >-> much plastic in the back. When I popped the trunk, he just said WOW, >-> that's cool. Now he's a believer in plastic (not the credit card kind)! > >Someone recently said my PC looked like a "jet ski on wheels", or a > "scooter on steroids". > > - dlb > >-- > >+----------------------------+ >| Dave Bartlett | >| CSE Systems Administration | >| Cisco Systems, Inc. | >+----------------------------+ > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:34:49 -0700 (PDT) To: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG), pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Frederic K. Misumi" Subject: Re: PC800: Heat Vents.. Ditto. 1989 Pearl White At 01:07 PM 8/7/97 -0500, GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG wrote: > > >After long rides this summer I've noticed that the right heat vent is >extremeley hot and the left heat vent is just warm.. Has anyone else >noticed this heat distribution difference? > Do I have a problem with my 96 with 11k miles or is this normal? > >Thanks for your help. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:05:48 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:00:21 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: uvadot@sprynet.com, ka2wij@earthlink.net, maryann@new-mind.com Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service (WARNING: Sorry fellow list members, you've not often seen this from me but, dammit, I've got to vent. Anyone not up to reading it may wish to close this message and move on now.) RE: The "ISP service" thread and "Bob and Grace's" posting (beneath the reply separator, below) AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please! No more Libertarian rhetoric! I subscribe to several political list servers where I positively get my belly full of self-serving, insensible, misanthropic Libertarian wrongheadedness. I'm tired of pointing out to Libertarians that their whole Libertarian "thing" crumbles to dust the minute one brings into the debate issues of social and individual harm. But that's not my real problem with this posting. When I get my over 150 e-mail messages each day, I sometimes deliberately seek out the "PC800:" indication in my subject headings so I can read about MOTORCYCLES and MOTORCYCLING, with specific focus on the HONDA PACIFIC COAST. It helps to relax me. Now, I realize that, in order to discuss motorcycling and the PC800, we obviously need to step into the political arena occasionally (to wit, helmet laws, access limitations, insurance, etc.), which is as it should be. (Granted, the writer, below, technically managed to accomplish a motorcycle tie-in with the reference to motorcycle insurance. It's a weak tie-in, in this case, but nevertheless technically accomplished.) And I think everyone on this list is generally tolerant of occasional (and mercifully brief) forays into the world of the "off-topic." In fact, I think sometimes the off-topics are so interesting that we're all glad for them once in a while. So, no one (I hope) would propose that we ban them, or that we ban or limit RELEVANT politically-oriented threads. But this particular piece of political-debate bait, with its stream-of-consciousness style and melodramatic ellipses following every presumably heartfelt phrase, is, in my not-so-humble opinion, opportunistic and inappropriate in this particular forum. I turn to this list, in part, to get away from political posts which tend to elicit from me politically pointed reactions and combative responses. I personally feel a bit ambushed by this posting. I'm certain that the poster had not intended this. And I suspect that he (or she) is probably feeling somewhat attacked by THIS posting (also an unintended outcome). But generally speaking, Libertarian thinking makes me absolutely crazy. And postings like this one are, for me, like waving a red flag in front of a bull. It is all I can do to suppress my impulse to pick apart the posting and engage its author in a lengthy and clearly off-topic political debate. But that's not what this list is for. I expect to find that sort of diatribe on my political list servers, not here. Granted part of the reason I feel so strongly is because the poster's is a perspective with which I typically disagree. Had the poster's comments been some with which I typically agree, I would probably not have reacted so violently -- or perhaps not even at all. If you think that's unfair of me, you're probably right, and that's exactly the point! It's not possible to make these sorts of postings without pissing someone off. *THIS* posting is, no doubt, pissing someone off. And that's precisely why such postings don't belong here on the PC800 list. There's a place for this poster's comments on the Internet. And were this poster to report to me that someone wished to keep him (or her) from making them *anywhere* on the Internet, I would be standing at his (or her) side, fighting such censorship with them. But it's the old "a time and a place for everything" argument. This is a vertical- or narrow-interest list. I say we try to keep it to discussions about our BIKES -- loving 'em, hating 'em, riding 'em, fixing 'em, and swapping stories about 'em and our lives related to owning 'em. And, what the hell, let's all of us even occasionally make an off-topic posting if for no other reason than to keep it interesting. Let's agree, disagree, comment, congratulate, argue, debate, praise, yell, scream, stomp... whatever. But I say we all try to keep it constructive, and try to confine it to talk about BIKES (specifically the PC800) and the manifold peripheral but nevertheless relevant issues which naturally arise out of such discussions. And, occasionally, whenever doing so takes us, inescapably, into the world of politics, then so be it. I say welcome it, embrace it, utilize it, and learn from it. Let's not censor ourselves or limit our comments -- even our political ones -- as long as they are specifically relevant to the subject of MOTORCYCLING and/or the PC800 (and obviously derivative issues), otherwise, what's the point of having a focused-subject list server such as this one? I believe that, as subscribers to this list, we should not have to endure gratuitous political pontification such as that seen beneath the reply separator, below. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 ------------------------------- REPLY SEPARATOR -------------------------------- Bob and Grace wrote: > > i am sorry ... however i disagree ... keep the government out of our lives as > much as possible ... if you do not like your service ... switch to a different > service ... if enuf people move the company will either provide better service > or go out of business ... no more laws ... > > think about your bike ... you are riding a bike ... you do not have enuf > insurance ... we will make you buy more insurance because of you riding a bike > ... cagers do not have to buy the insurance .... > > live free and no new laws ... we have the power to improve things ... it just > means doing a little work to get things improved ... it congress does it ... the > cost of services will climb so high that a large number of people can not afford > the net ... > > please no new laws ... we are in enuf trouble with the laws we have ... > > > my .02 .... > :) > > bob and grace parker > -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 21:29:01 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, uvadot@sprynet.com, ka2wij@earthlink.net, maryann@new-mind.com Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > (WARNING: Sorry fellow list members, you've not often seen this from > me > but, dammit, I've got to vent... > AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please! No more Libertarian rhetoric! Politics and religion both suffer the same foundational flaw: "My God/Political Party is the one and only true God/Political Party". How many millions have died throughout history as a result? Get on your bike and ride, for it is the one and only true religion. (And it's usually somewhat more difficult to wage a jihad while riding)... ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id W^U17512; Sat, 09 Aug 1997 22:07:21 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: applebit@compuserve.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:02:06 -0400 Subject: Re: PC800: J&M AudioPak From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) I bought a Midland 3in1 radio, 40 channel CB, FM Tuner and 10 Weather channel tuner for $109 or so at WalMart. Buy a decent CB antenna for $40, and order whichever J&M headset you like. Sierra Electronics (on the WWW somewhere-don't remember URL) can sell a mounting kit that adapts this radio's input/output jacks to J&M connector. Also includes a lexan mounting bracket for radio. Maybe $29.95 if I remember correctly... They also sell the whole thing minus helmet headset for $225 with remote push-to-talk handswitch. I kinda cobbled mine together since I have Bass Monster speakers and not J&M so I couldn't use Sierra's rig. Went to a local radio shop and got it fixed up. Didn't really save much $$$, but I didn't have to buy the J&M headsets. Hope this helps, Myles *********************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---WANTING TO BUY A PC800 WHEN I SELL MY BMW. PLEASE BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 19:15:35 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: MVerVelde@aol.com, pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Cost to replace plastic? MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: My > question- anyone- know how much it might cost to get about half the > plastic > on the bike replaced? I replaced almost the whole right side of my PC, except the main side panel, but including the trunk lid. Cost over $1200. Hope you have a nice insurance company -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Gary E. Klim" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: Off Subject (Yet Again...CB750List??) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:37:27 -0400 What's the address of the cb750 list you say you found..... it seems I have a 83 CB750SC-Nighthwk...sitting in the garage getting dusty and doesn't want to start....that I should probably put up 4sale...any offers??? Fireman Joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: "Jim Randall" Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: tailgaters Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:42:26 -0400 some crazy carload of kids attempted to hog the road and put my dad off the asphalt, one night while he was in Alabama in his 21' Mini-Winnie --- amazing what happens when he threw my 9mm up on the dash.....I was on the cellular with him while this was happening, and he said they ditched themselves into the median, guess they didn't want to tangle with a 78 yr. old man a big vehicle and very fast projectiles!!!! Fireman Joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:58:01 -0400 Alan, and others..... What you and anyone else should do...is find a local designated ISP company in your area.... Check them out threw the web, they all have access so potential customers can log in, like I use http://www.one.net they have a designated fiber connection the main web lines from here....they are a independent privately run co. Now the trick is check out your ISP see what they have, if they can handle multi speeds, and are ON the fiber back bone the web is comprised off, you'll surf better.... I am able to get up to 115,600 through put on a 28.8 supra modem that's been flash updated to run at 33.6 or more... I can't recall the last time I got a busy signal..... and if I did within a redial I'd be in the door anyways. The only thing I know that's better than a stand alone ISP, is CABLE MODEMS. Like Roadrunner.com these things really fly @10kpbs in other words about 100 times faster than what we are using now... however they are a service of a cable tv provider and not available in most areas just yet...its a new process, and still being developed. There is a little bit more cost for this, but it would be worth it. we hope to have our system up and running next June. IE:Time-Warner Cable (http://www.pathfinder.com) Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com Cableguy@one.net Cincinnati, Ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:11:12 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: first "test" I was on my way to work at 0600 Friday morning and had my first test with my new-to-me '89 PC800. A big rig with a flatbed was about 3 car lengths ahead and we were exiting a sweeping off-ramp onto another freeway (down to about 40mph). The truck had a 5+ gallon bucket of 1" by 3" (guessing) bolts on the back and the bucket came sliding off. The off-ramp looked liked somebody had just dumped marbles on it - the bolts were bouncing everywhere. Some cars hit the bolts (or the bolts hit them). I was able to break to a near stop faster and weave between the bolts. I was glad I was not right behind the truck when it happened! The whole event reminded me to take things easy and give trucks and cars (and bolts) plenty of room ahead of me. You never know when there is a "test" ahead! -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 10 Aug 1997 03:23:32 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PC800 List Server" , "Guy & Sonya" Subject: Re: PC800: first "test" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:16:01 -0400 Guy, Amen. Vince ---------- >The whole event reminded me to take things easy and give trucks and cars > (and bolts) plenty of room ahead of me. You never know when there is a > "test" ahead! > > -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) > . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:20:56 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: nick@whoi.edu Subject: PC800: Replace Plastic Was on Hwy 1 along the coast up in North California riding thru winding roads in the woods. During an "S" curve, after making the right turn, while leaning for the Left curve, a group of sport bikes with those 10,000 candlepower lights came up fast behind me. Since there was nobody behind me a long way in the straight parts of the road prior to entering the winding section, I wasn't expecting lights to suddenly distract me in my left mirror. Was startled to say the least, and I looked down into the left mirror and before I knew it, I was sliding out and the bike slid into the guardrail. The direction of the fall was directly lined up with my shoulder, so I broke the collarbone. Those motorcyclists did stop and offer help as well as call CHP for assistance. One of the riders even asked me if I was startled by their lights coming out of nowhere, when I said yeah, he winced... Pretty common problem out there? Amazingly enough, despite a deep scrape in my full face helment, I had no head injuries (nor headaches later!). My Darien Suit from Aerostitch- geez guys- they make them tough! The cordura is scraped a tiny bit. Its still good. Nice thing about the PC crash bars that look like wings- they work. My pants were not even scraped. Really protected the legs. Looks like the plastic needs to be replaced in the front and part of the left side. That one will hurt! Ride safe... Mike VerVelde, Stockton, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Keller" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 01:14:16 +0000 Subject: PC800: Hearing Protection _and_ Sound? Reply-to: green@null.net Has anyone done research and found a sound system that works inside a full-face helmet, requires no modification to the helmet and provides hearing protection at least as good as that from foam ear plugs? -Michael [Ham: N5RDV (ex: AB5EL)] Tulsa, OK green@null.net http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5602/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: FW: PC800: ISP service Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:44:01 -0400 I volunteered yesterday to beta-test cable modems in our service area. If they choose me I'll provide a full report. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Performance Computers [SMTP:perfcomp@rex.isdn.net] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 1997 7:30 AM To: Alan Taylor Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; maryann@new-mind.com Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service As the Sales Director for ISDN-Net, Inc, the regional ISP for Business based in Nashville, TN, I can tell tou there are all kinds of providers with all levels of service. If you are dependent on the Internet for your business or personal needs find an ISP with a business focus and be prepared to pay a little more for service that's not unlimited. For your reference, ours is $19.95 credit card 100 hr/month, $24.95 invoiced 100 hr/month and $24.95 for 64K ISDN dial in, $34.95-39.95 for 128K ISDN dial in. If you cannot find a dependable local provider, get an AT&T Worldnet account for $19.95 unlimited. AT&T has never oversold their capacity. Claude Hill The Sobe GhoST On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Alan Taylor wrote: > Dear group, > > This is a little off topic, but affect us all here, so i would > appreciate your bearing with me. > > My ISP is Earthlink.net. Most evenings, it takes 5 tries to log on with > them. If I don't poll the net frequently, I time out and get > disconnected. Although I have a 28.8 modem, my link to them is rarely at > that speed, usually it's 26.4. > > I have a freind in FL who is experiencing similar problems with GTE, and > we all know about the problems at AOL. > > In all these cases, we are paying for supposedly unlimited access. > > Worse, many of the ISP's are telephone co's like PacBel, GTE, NYNEX, > MCI, Sprint and AT&T. These companies are regulated to provide a > standard of service for telephone connections, that they are not > required to meet for connections to their servers. > > I feel we are being cheated, and that it's long past time that the state > utility commissions, impose the same standards of service for internet > access that they do for telephone. the technology is the same. > > The problem is that ISP's don't want to spend the money needed to > provide the unlimited service we're paying for. > > If it weren't law, I doubt the phone companies would meet present > standards. It's time for a law. > > If you feel as i do, please let your representatives know. Write your > editors, and especially, your ISP's. Let's put them on notice, that > we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore. > > Thanks for staying with me, > > Alan Taylor > 95 PC "Midnight" > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: gas mileage Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:05:36 -0400 Francois Saint Laurent wrote: >Throughout the trip, whenever we would stop for gas, we would compare >quantities. The ST1100 always needed just a bit more gas than the PC would >need. I recently spent a very pleasant Saturday touring SW Virginia and SE Kentucky with a friend on Concours and another on a Venture. We were all full at the outset. When we stopped for gas at 155 miles. The PC had sipped only 2.7 gallons while both the bigger bikes used just over 4. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:33:56 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: slgross@halcyon.com CC: MVerVelde@aol.com, pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Cost to replace plastic? Try Banzia 1.800.405.7283 genuine @ a sizable discount... Bill Steve Gross wrote: > > MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: My > > > question- anyone- know how much it might cost to get about half the > > plastic > > on the bike replaced? > > I replaced almost the whole right side of my PC, except the main side > panel, but including the trunk lid. Cost over $1200. Hope you have a > nice insurance company > > -- > Steve Gross - Seattle, WA > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 09:44:49 -0400 From: Jason To: Timothy B Macy , PC800 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters Hm.. Wonder if he could recommend a good throttle lock. Timothy B Macy wrote: > Interesting that you should bring that up. I've got a high school > friend > in Wisconsin who, a few years back, had a synapse snap after a run-in > with a enraged cager. He strapped a pistol on his hip, rode his > motorcycle back out to the section of I-90 that runs between Milwaukee > > and Madison, and started snapping off shots at drivers that threatened > > his personal space. > > Since he was a Vietnam Vet, he was diagnosed as suffering from > post-traumatic stress syndrome and the State gave him his own personal > > rubber room for a while. I'm not sure what happened to him after that. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA23501; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT) To: slgross@halcyon.com, MVerVelde@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Cost to replace plastic? I am having mine done at the local Honda dealer. The insurance paid $2,700 for what amounts to about the whole left-hand side. Does anyone have a workable method for repairing deep scratches in the plastic? I found a fellow here who says he can fill them with weld, then I have to sand 'em down and polish 'em. Might be well worth it as the rear left section (maybe that's the whole trunk lid?) costs $495 or so. My name is John Moe. I live in Noblesville, IN just north of Indianapolis. E-mail is jfmoemd@aol.com I bought a very clean '94 PC with less than 3K miles on it, and wrecked it the next day (July 26, 1997.) You can imagine how aggravating that has been! We are now waiting for parts but with the UPS strike it is hard to guess when we'll be back on the road. Gee, maybe my various injuries will have healed up by that time! Anyway, "Hi!" to everybody on the list! John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:04:50 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Differential Anxiety. JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-08-08 10:18:37 EDT, Vince writes: > > << Gee, I checked my owner's guide and didn't see any reference to > anti-freeze > for the differential. Could I have a bad owner's guide? Vince > >> > No, Vince. Your book is fine. The problem is that your PC has no > differential. That feature was removed after the '87 model year. > Apparently, the problem was that with the anti-freeze in it, the damned > thing kept freezing up at speeds over 100 mph. Even though the problem may > have been due to silicates in the Prestone many owners substituted for the > approved Honda brand, the factory chose to modify the design rather than face > the swarm of lawsuits that would surely come from irate owners who chose to > ignore the warning labels on the "tank" and the cautions in their owner's > manuals to save the $1.50 a gallon price differential (hmmmm?). Their fix > was to put in a single-wheel drive unit at the back and lubricate it with the > more conventional hypoid oil. This update also has made the bike a lot > easier to lean into turns. I hope this relieves your anxiety over this > matter. > > JT > You know, when I read something like this I am reafirmed that I just looove this list. So many of you guys have a sense of humor so like mine and are so creative with it. I just hope a new person to the list realizes it's a joke! Steve Churchill "Katie" 4.6K and counting -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:11:36 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Product Endorsement! Timothy B Macy wrote: > > The June, 1997 issue of MCN (Motorcycle Consumer News) had a Helmet > Cleaner Comparison between California Helmet Liner Cleanser, Caprilim > Helmet Foam, Helmet Fresh, and Woolite. Seeing as my helmet had > become...ah....fragrant...after our trip east I was more interested in a > helmet cleaner's deodorant power than its cleaning power. The Caprilim > Helmet foam was recommended by MCN because of its cleaning power, but the > testers raved about the deodorant power of the California Helmet Liner > Cleanser. After it was so effective on helmet liners, they tried it on > other smelly things, such as leathers...and to quote the article, "The > results were amazing." > > So I picked some of the California Cleanser up at my local Honda shop and > used it last night on my helmet...and I was "amazed" at the results. The > spray cleaner totally neutralized the odors! > > So if your liner's gettin' gamey and you can't stand the smell, treat it > nice with some California Helmet Liner Cleanser and yer nose'll thank ya > as well! > Tim, For <$10 you can purchase a helmet liner in a fabric of your choice (silk,cotton, CoolMax, etc.). When it gets fragrant, just throw it into the wash. I have a cotton one that works geat. Wouldn't go without it now. SAC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 09:43:10 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please! No more Libertarian rhetoric! etc... > I am not offended by either their posting or yours and my delete key seems fully operational if I am. OTH, Greg, sheesh you're long winded! illegitemi non carborundum SAC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 07:57:31 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Fireman Joe CC: PC800 Listservice Subject: Re: PC800: Off Subject (Yet Again...CB750List??) Fireman Joe wrote: > > What's the address of the cb750 list you say you found..... To post to the list, the address is: cb750@canadaweb.com To subscribe to the list, the address is: cb750-request@bluenose.canadaweb.com Type "subscribe" in the body of the message. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:01:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:56:15 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > OTH, Greg, sheesh you're long winded! > And proud of it. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:17:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:12:32 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service After everything I wrote yesterday about Libertarianism and politics and all that schmaltz, one thing I should have added to my posting because despite all that I wrote, I really DO believe this: Politics aside, any Libertarian who likes the PC can't be all bad. Of course I don't think I could say the same about Republicans. (Just kidding.) ;-) Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:58:16 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PC800" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 15:50:46 -0400 Where is Rocky when we need him? ---------- > > Hm.. Wonder if he could recommend a good throttle lock. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:59:42 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters To: "Vincent Santamaria" , "PC800" rocky is out til next weekend ... taking care of family business ... bring it up next weekend ... he will take care of business them .... :) bob of bob and grace http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT From: "Tony Morgano" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: newbie Hello PC'ers, I've been reading your corresondence for approx. 2 months and found it to be quite enjoyable and informative. The reason for my sudden jump into the conversation is the latest issue of Rider Magazine. It seams that a PC won the Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. I think that we have finally made our (my) point. We ride a great machine! BTW, that bike belongs to me. It's loaded to the max with goodies. I will glad to talk (obviously) to all about my ride. Tony Morgano rednorton@msn.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:24:55 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: "Gary E. Klim" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ISP service Well said and hereby seconded Hal 89 PC (Reluctantly for sale) 92 ST1100 STD. Gary E. Klim wrote: > > Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > > > (WARNING: Sorry fellow list members, you've not often seen this from > > me > > but, dammit, I've got to vent... > > AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please! No more Libertarian rhetoric! > > Politics and religion both suffer the same foundational flaw: "My > God/Political Party is the one and only true God/Political Party". How > many millions have died throughout history as a result? > > Get on your bike and ride, for it is the one and only true religion. > (And it's usually somewhat more difficult to wage a jihad while > riding)... ;-) > > gk > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net > gklim@harman.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 18:44:57 -0700 To: PC800 List Server From: Guy & Sonya Subject: PC800: mpg? Question - I'm getting 46-47 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. Is that about right for an '89. I have changed the plugs, air filter, oil & oil filter. Also, I have new tires. I've heard folks talk of 50 mpg. Is that what I should expect out on the open road on a long trip? -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:31:25 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: MVerVelde@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, nick@whoi.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Replace Plastic MVerVelde@aol.com wrote: > ... Pretty common > problem out there? Dear Mike, First let me express, my sympathy over the damage to your PC and especially yourself. The crotch rocket problem is pretty common here in southern california. 2 beautiful twisty highways were made into double fine zones because of their antics. 2 months ago, I was in a formation of 5 PC800's on the mountain roads of Angeles Crest highway, when 2 sport bikers blasted through our formation at double our speed. One passed to my left, and as i moved right to avoid, the other flew past on that side, then cut in front of me to join his freind on the wrong side of the road going around a curve. It happened so fast the drag rider didn't have time to give a warning. fortunately, the only damage was to my underwear, and it washed out. good luck, heal fast, ride safe. Alan 95 PC800 Midnight Long Beach, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3283700 ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:37:12 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 18:01:24 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: '98 PC 800 Has anyone heard any news about the '98 PC800? Any idea when the '98 models come out? Was talking to my brother-in-law who just came home from CA and he said September the '98 models will start rolling out. I had always thought it was around March. i.e. March '98 the '98 models come out. Or is that only for us unlucky souls in MI? Scot '89 PC800 Venus --------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3285200 ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:38:01 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:41:27 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: Guy & Sonya CC: PC800 List Server Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? Guy, Thanks for asking this question. I wanted to ask the same. I have an '89 that gets 46 mpg running country roads back and forth to work (32 miles round trip each day). I expect to get better on the highway, but not expecting to get 50. Taking a 300 mile trip this weekend. Will let you know. Scot '89 PC800 Venus 12,791 miles ------------- Guy & Sonya wrote: > > Question - I'm getting 46-47 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. Is that > about right for an '89. I have changed the plugs, air filter, oil & oil > filter. Also, I have new tires. I've heard folks talk of 50 mpg. Is that > what I should expect out on the open road on a long trip? > > -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:07:02 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: '98 PC 800 At 18:01 8/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >Has anyone heard any news about the '98 PC800? Any idea when the '98 >models come out? Was talking to my brother-in-law who just came home >from CA and he said September the '98 models will start rolling out. I >had always thought it was around March. i.e. March '98 the '98 models >come out. Or is that only for us unlucky souls in MI? Scot, As far as I know, there will be no 1998 model for the PC. But then again, we PC owners have heard that story before, haven't we? I do hope they will bring it out. It would be nice to say that the PC had 10 years of production (even if we missed a few years here in the US) if and when the '99 model comes out. As far as when, it is just like cars. The new models are revealed at the end of the summer, and are available usually before the year is over (though not us in the northern climes) So be it. I can't ride until April anyways, so it wouldn't do me or the dealer any good to have a bike just sitting there in the showroom. How about you SoCal members (and others with warm climates), how soon do you see the new models show up for sale? Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Two question about my PC Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 03:35:54 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hello folks, I have two questions about the PC I've had for about three months. #1.....How hard is it to change the air filter? It looks like you have to go through a lot of plastic to get to it. It need's changing NOW. #2.....I'm not real sure about what RPM's my PC should be running. When I'm doing about 70mph, I'm running about 4700 RPM. Does that sound about right? I'm still trying to figure this bike out. Thank's for any input. James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:04:23 -0700 To: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) From: Guy & Sonya Subject: Re: PC800: Two question about my PC Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu James, > #1.....How hard is it to change the air filter? It looks like you have >to go through a lot of plastic to get to it. It need's changing NOW. Quite easy. Take out the air duct/maintenance lid (air vents), remove the screw for the side covers and take off the side covers. You then remove the "back" screws to the top shelter (the fake gas tank looking thing). There are two more "front" screws to the top shelter under the center covers (the center covers are under the handle bars - two pieces of plastic trim - they pop right out). Once you have the top shelter off, there are a six screws and the air cleaner case cover comes off revealing the air cleaner element. See - not so hard :) > #2.....I'm not real sure about what RPM's my PC should be running. >When I'm doing about 70mph, I'm running about 4700 RPM. Does that sound >about right? Sounds about right for my '89. -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA01477; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 01:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 01:08:20 -0400 (EDT) To: scotp1965@mdn.net cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? I regularly commute 1 hr 15 min from the central california valley (stockton) to Fremont in the SF Bay area- and I have been getting minimum of 50 mpg... One one trip I did about 200 miles and did better than 50 mpg. Not bad... Considering I used to commute for 2 years prior in a Toyota 4x4 pick up. Amazing how little gas you need to buy now... its funny. Everytime Im at the pump, I feel like I'm filling up my lawnmower gas pail. ha. Mike Ver Velde 90 PC Apple Red Stockton CA. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Tell me about Rifle windshields Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 05:24:14 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu How do I contact Rifle? Do they have a web site? Maybe a catalog? James '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Found it. Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 05:30:49 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I found the Rifle Web-site. Thanks anyway. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:47:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Guy & Sonya , PC800 List Server From: "Frederic K. Misumi" Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? I've just gone on two six-hour tours this past week: Tour 1: 51 mpg @ 60 mph average Tour 2: 41 mpg @ 75 mph average Other significant factors: 38 psi front tires: Metzeler ML2 44 psi rear tires: Metzeler ML2 + 1989 PC w/ Honda tall windshield Pretty nifty bike. At 06:44 PM 8/10/97 -0700, Guy & Sonya wrote: >Question - I'm getting 46-47 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. Is that >about right for an '89. I have changed the plugs, air filter, oil & oil >filter. Also, I have new tires. I've heard folks talk of 50 mpg. Is that >what I should expect out on the open road on a long trip? > >-Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'scotp1965@mdn.net'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: mpg? Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 07:26:00 -0400 I don't know if motorcycles have different emissions equipment in CA like cars or not. But I believe based on postings here, the CA riders are getting significantly less mileage than I do. I rountinely get 50 or better and have gotten as high as 57 mpg. However, I don't ride much on hi-speed roads and generally like to cruise around 60 - 65 on secondary roads. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper [SMTP:scotp1965@mdn.net] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 1997 10:41 PM To: Guy & Sonya Cc: PC800 List Server Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? Guy, Thanks for asking this question. I wanted to ask the same. I have an '89 that gets 46 mpg running country roads back and forth to work (32 miles round trip each day). I expect to get better on the highway, but not expecting to get 50. Taking a 300 mile trip this weekend. Will let you know. Scot '89 PC800 Venus 12,791 miles ------------- Guy & Sonya wrote: > > Question - I'm getting 46-47 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. Is that > about right for an '89. I have changed the plugs, air filter, oil & oil > filter. Also, I have new tires. I've heard folks talk of 50 mpg. Is that > what I should expect out on the open road on a long trip? > > -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 07:56:51 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: J&M AudioPak If you have a newer Pacific Coast than '89, DON'T DO IT. I got one and went through 5 different filters without success in getting the noise out. They know it has a problem with the PC and the older ones they made a filter for (at about $50.00 extra) and the newer ones they said they hadn't had enough complaints to bother with making a filter. I asked them how many times I needed to call and complain. They said I could call as many times as I want and they still wouldn't do anything about it. Their customer service and help is lousy and they have an attitude of "tough shit" when you talk to them. After fighting them for 8 months I finally got my money back and went to M. R. Communications and got a custom set installed in the trunk. It works great. Their phone number is (206) 335-1296 and they now have a e-mail address mrcom@premier1.net . Contact them for some good advice on what to do. Good luck. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: J&M AudioPak Author: Bernie at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 8/8/97 4:36 PM I saw an add today in "Rider" for The CB Personal AudioPak by J&M of = Tucson. The Personal AudioPak consist of a Midland CB Radio with 40 = channels with a built in FM turner. One of the local motorcycle dealers = here in KC is an authorized installer. Has anyone tried you of these = units on a PC? For $565, including headset institution, the AudioPak is = an interesting deal. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:00:55 -0400 From: Jason Grant To: Vincent Santamaria , PC800 Subject: Re: FW: PC800: tailgaters I think you're on to something... it was him with the gun. :) Vincent Santamaria wrote: > Where is Rocky when we need him? > > ---------- > > > > Hm.. Wonder if he could recommend a good throttle lock. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:16:09 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? guess I shouldn't have had my carbs rejetted. I'm lucky to get 40mpg..put it feels more powerful... -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:44:04 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: Aurapin Pochanapring , jac8mar@singnet.com.sg, santheep@pacific.net.sg, san_kin_cheong@jpmorgan.com, throttle@pacific.net.sg Subject: PC800: King of trunk space. Hi gang, There's this bike after the title of "King of trunk Space" been surfing on the net and found this unbelieveable site. It's for a Honda 250 scooter called Foresight and they have a Quicktime viewer that allows you to scroll the picture with your mouse and see the bike from any angle, even overhead. The coolest feature of the site is a macromedia function, called Trunk Simulator. The site has a picture of an opened Foresight trunk and a couple of things at the bottom of the screen you can pick and place inside the trunk. Soccer balls, bottles of wine, full length umbrella, a tent that's a meter long, even a bouquet of flowers all seem to fit in the long bath tub shaped trunk in this scooter. Check out the site and see if you get pass the fourth stage. (Clue : you must pack for the occasion) Really fun, just like kindergarten style 'pick and place' As the saying goes " the difference between men and boys is the price of their toys." http://www.i-dreams.co.jp/foresight/ have fun. Yu Seung from Singapore -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 09:40:41 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: scotp1965@mdn.net, Jim Randall Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: mpg? CA bikes do indeed have the extra emissions equipment. In OR the dealer tell us if it was made for CA when we look at a bike, due to this difference. Also it does tend to give worse mpg. I generally get 50 to 55 mpg on my PC. It's not a CA bike. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: RE: PC800: mpg? Author: Jim Randall at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 8/11/97 4:53 AM I don't know if motorcycles have different emissions equipment in CA like cars or not. But I believe based on postings here, the CA riders are getting significantly less mileage than I do. I rountinely get 50 or better and have gotten as high as 57 mpg. However, I don't ride much on hi-speed roads and generally like to cruise around 60 - 65 on secondary roads. Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Scot Piper [SMTP:scotp1965@mdn.net] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 1997 10:41 PM To: Guy & Sonya Cc: PC800 List Server Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? Guy, Thanks for asking this question. I wanted to ask the same. I have an '89 that gets 46 mpg running country roads back and forth to work (32 miles round trip each day). I expect to get better on the highway, but not expecting to get 50. Taking a 300 mile trip this weekend. Will let you know. Scot '89 PC800 Venus 12,791 miles ------------- Guy & Sonya wrote: > > Question - I'm getting 46-47 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. Is that > about right for an '89. I have changed the plugs, air filter, oil & oil > filter. Also, I have new tires. I've heard folks talk of 50 mpg. Is that > what I should expect out on the open road on a long trip? > > -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: andycuth@fia.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:55:24 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Member Greetings mates: I am a new member just following protocol: Name: A.E. (Andy) Cuthbert Location: Irvine, CA Email: andycuth@fia.net PC Model year: 1990 Bought Used: Purchased in 1995 Modifications: Found a radio and added a backrest Had a little mishap as well. I need two mirrors and a lower cowl, Candy Apple Red. I understand the 1997 bike is Honda Racing Red. E-mail pivately if you have these parts available. I do not need perfect parts, I do body work. So if you had an accident/incident and have slightly damaged parts . . . e-mail with the price you are asking. I am just trying to get going again !!! Thanks, Andy -- | ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ | |A. E. (Andy) Cuthbert . . `; -._ )-;-,_`) | |Advanced Environmental Concepts =(v =)' _ )`-.\ ``-' | |4450 California Place #226 _. -_..-_/ / ((.' | |Long Beach, CA 90807-2229 ((,.-' ((,/ | |andycuth@fia.net | -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:51:18 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:50:32 -0400 From: "J. MARK VENABLE" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Honda Homecoming Trip Report Thanks for great report Francois. I didn't go this year, but was there last year. This is a great rally. The Honda folks are just super as are the locals. Lots of things to do and see in the area and some very nice rides. There are even some hills and curves in Ohio :) Mark Venable '90 PC 10,100 miles "This End Up" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 13:48:18 -0400 From: Bob Coulter To: scotp1965@mdn.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC shipping tips? Scot Piper wrote: > > Has anyone ever hauled their PC in a truck or trailer? What is the > best way to tie it down? I have several of the S-ring straps, but there > are no bare spots on the handlebars, and the body panels don't leave > room for a straight shot to the tie down point. > > Thanks. > > Scot > Future '89 PC800 owner :-) > -- > Hi, Scot, I realize I'm pretty late in responding to your message; you may have already transported your PC. The hard drive in our other "pc" crashed and my messages piled up while we waited for a replacement drive. (Thankfully, it was still under warranty) Anyway, when we brought my new PC home in March from the dealership, we had the same concerns. The dealer recommended what was called "soft ties". They attached to the handlebar grips, then regular tie downs attached to the soft ties. The front suspension was compressed and the bike didn't move. The trailer had a "chock" that the front wheel rested in for additional peace of mind. We didn't have to tie it down in the rear at all. One additional note - when using soft ties attached to the handlebar grips, rotate the right grip (roll on the throttle) slightly. The dealer said you don't want to risk it rotating the other direction and breaking something inside the throttle mechanism. Perhaps you'll want to check wi! th your local dealer? By the way, we purchased the soft ties there at the dealership for, I believe, just a few dollars. Good luck! Karen Coulter '97 PC "Li'l Red" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:49:42 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Still working on the 600 mile break-in interval, but thought I would send my mpg so far. This is on a new '96 California model : First tank (from dealer): 113.0 miles @ 2.6gal = 43.46mpg Second tank (92 octane) : 137.6 miles @ 2.6gal = 52.92mpg Miles per gallon is comming up nicely. This is mostly hiway driving at 55 - 60 (to keep below the recommended 4000rpm). The thing that I still have some "getting used to" yet is the fact that the fuel gauge only indicates a 4 gallon capacity. This is the first bike I have had that has a fuel gauge, so I keep thinking in terms of car fuel capacity. Still use the trip meter as a fuel gauge out of habit. Peter -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: WOW! That much? Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:26:58 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I went to my local Honda dealer checking on an air filter for my '90 PC. I should have stayed home. From them, it will cost $45.00 + tax. I can't afford to pay that much for a filter. (I may have to, but I don't want to) Where else can I look for an air filter? I'm sure it really needs changing. Thanks for any help, James '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gordon Gazaway To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: CA differences Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:42:41 -0700 I live in WA but my PC800 originated in CA. My mileage has not been out of line (~46-50mpg depending on how I ride that tank) but I would be interested if anyone knows what would need to be disabled to remove the CA emission gear. If I could lose that pesky hose attached to the gas cap it would not break my heart. Anyone else out there made this type of retrofit? Gordon Gazaway '90 PC - still no name, but only 62 more miles to 10,000!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:29:17 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: mpg? Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:20:40 -0400 Yes, I made the rejet mistake on my 1985 Shadow 1100. A little more power but the MPG dropped to 40 from 50. I am going to put it back to stock. I was advised to not fool with the jetting but ignored the solid advice. Live and learn but I am getting kinda old. Vince > guess I shouldn't have had my carbs rejetted. I'm lucky to get > 40mpg..put it feels more powerful... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:40:20 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG Peter, Why 92 octane? Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:42:12 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: "J. MARK VENABLE" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Honda Homecoming Trip Report An HSTA member won the bike. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:46:07 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Jgeist Lubtx Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: WOW! That much? Jgeist Lubtx wrote: > > I went to my local Honda dealer checking on an air filter for my '90 PC. > I should have stayed home. From them, it will cost $45.00 + tax. I can't > afford to pay that much for a filter. (I may have to, but I don't want > to) > Where else can I look for an air filter? I'm sure it really > needs changing. > > Cycle Design 1-800-343-1374 I paid ~$28. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:02:48 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Roger, I thought I would try the premium gas to see if it helped with the hesitation I am experiencing between 2000 and 2500 rpm. Also my car gets a few mpg better with the 92 octane gas than it does with regular. Peter ************************* ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com" 11-AUG-1997 12:55:44.09 To: IN%"PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com" "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" CC: IN%"PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subj: RE: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG Peter, Why 92 octane? Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Return-path: by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAF15070; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:22:59 -0500 ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:41:10 -0500 (CDT) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28667 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:41:01 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:40:20 -0400 From: Roger Prince Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RwG09425; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:03:13 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 13:12:32 -0700 Subject: PC800: People's Choice... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: > It seems that a PC won the Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. Hmmm. Either Rider's gone "regional" and isn't printing the same story in all of their issues, or the Pony Express is slower'n usual in reaching the northwest. Since that story wasn't in the August issue, I assume it's the latter and someone shot a horse on the trail....... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--59,140 Miles Behind Me! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:18:23 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Tim, I noticed this as well, but just didn't mention it. You apparently must have a terminal monitoring this email list continually, since I see you send a lot of email during the day :-{) I picked up a "Wrist Wrest" at my local BMW bike shop this weekend. I had seen the archives concerning the modifications required. However after looking at the box the thing came in, with its lack of instructions for installation and use, it strikes me that this is not made by BMW. If this is true, I wonder who makes it, and would they consider making one for the PC to match the existing bar end weight. Since the thing is made from Stainless Steel and is a little over a 1/4 of an inch shorter than the Honda stock bar end weight, it doesn't blend as well with the bike as I hoped it would. Powder coating it black would help, but being a little longer with the proper tooling for the cap screw would help. If anybody knows who actually makes the "Wrist Rest", I would appreciate the info before I start cutting...... Thanks, Peter *************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"timmacy@juno.com" 11-AUG-1997 14:07:16.52 To: IN%"pc800@hpc.uh.edu" CC: Subj: PC800: People's Choice... On Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: > It seems that a PC won the Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. Hmmm. Either Rider's gone "regional" and isn't printing the same story in all of their issues, or the Pony Express is slower'n usual in reaching the northwest. Since that story wasn't in the August issue, I assume it's the latter and someone shot a horse on the trail....... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--59,140 Miles Behind Me! "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Return-path: by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAF15415; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:47:15 -0500 ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 16:05:30 -0500 (CDT) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00668 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 16:05:24 -0500 (CDT) id RwG09425; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:03:13 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 13:12:32 -0700 From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Subject: PC800: People's Choice... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:35:07 -0700 From: Eric Matthews To: andycuth@fia.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Member andycuth@fia.net wrote: > Greetings mates: > > I am a new member just following protocol: > > Name: A.E. (Andy) Cuthbert > Location: Irvine, CA > Email: andycuth@fia.net > PC Model year: 1990 > Bought Used: Purchased in 1995 > Modifications: Found a radio and added a backrest > > Had a little mishap as well. I need two mirrors and a lower cowl, > Candy > Apple Red. I understand the 1997 bike is Honda Racing Red. > > E-mail pivately if you have these parts available. I do not need > perfect > parts, I do body work. So if you had an accident/incident and have > slightly damaged parts . . . e-mail with the price you are asking. I > am > just trying to get going again !!! > > Thanks, > > Andy Hi Andy, Welcome aboard! You are, by simply living in Southern Ca., a member of the Southern California PC Riders Club. We get together about once a month and ride, and you're welcome to join us any time. No dues, no rigid structure, just a bunch of folks out for a day of riding. I'm sure some of the others will email you shortly. Regarding your parts needs, I don't know of anything available. How 'bout you other SCPCRC'ers? Eric. PS Where in Irvine are you located? I'm in Westpark myself. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:31:23 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Timothy B Macy Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... Timothy B Macy wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: > > It seems that a PC won the Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. > > Hmmm. Either Rider's gone "regional" and isn't printing the same story in > all of their issues, or the Pony Express is slower'n usual in reaching > the northwest. Since that story wasn't in the August issue, I assume it's > the latter and someone shot a horse on the trail....... > > Tim I couldn't find it in the September issue. Looked twice but might have missed it. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:49:21 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: pohys@singnet.com.sg CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: King of trunk space. Poh Yu Seung wrote: > Check out the site and see if you get pass the fourth > stage. I must be easily amused. I successfully made it through the "final stage" of trunk packing 101... I guess I'll have a beer as a reward. ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:25:07 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Timothy B Macy" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:18:00 -0400 It is in the Sept issue page 59 lower right hand corner. Vince > I couldn't find it in the September issue. Looked twice but might have > missed it. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:42:41 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com CC: Timothy B Macy , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... At nearly 1:00AM Tony Morgano probably wished he had a PC or a 'rednorton' as in his e-mail but maybe had too many Capt. Morgan rums? Hal '89 PC, 92 ST, & lots of 'no budget wish-list' bikes. Roger Prince wrote: > > Timothy B Macy wrote: > > > > On Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: > > > It seems that a PC won the Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. > > > > Hmmm. Either Rider's gone "regional" and isn't printing the same story in > > all of their issues, or the Pony Express is slower'n usual in reaching > > the northwest. Since that story wasn't in the August issue, I assume it's > > the latter and someone shot a horse on the trail....... > > > > Tim > > I couldn't find it in the September issue. Looked twice but might have > missed it. > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UcB09425; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:10:13 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:09:53 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:18:00 -0400 "Vincent Santamaria" writes: >It is in the Sept issue page 59 lower right hand corner. Vince > >> I couldn't find it in the September issue. Looked twice but might have >> missed it. Aha! Thanks, Vince! I looked through the text of the stories but didn't scan the photo captions. Duh! Way to go, Tony! Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:24:54 -0700 To: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) From: Guy & Sonya Subject: Re: PC800: WOW! That much? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > I went to my local Honda dealer checking on an air filter for my >'90 PC. >I should have stayed home. From them, it will cost $45.00 + tax. I can't >afford to pay that much for a filter. (I may have to, but I don't want >to) > Where else can I look for an air filter? I'm sure it really >needs changing. James, I paid $38.98 + tax at Milpitas Honda. I said the same thing but shelled out the $ (you should have seen how black the old one was). I later learned about other motorcycle parts places that should be able to order parts for quite a discount. -Guy Chinn (Fremont, CA) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UsB09425; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:29:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:13:38 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: People's Choice... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) I sent out a message this morning: > Hmmm. Either Rider's gone "regional" and isn't printing the same story in all of their >issues, or the Pony Express is slower'n usual in reaching the northwest. Since that >story wasn't in the August issue, I assume it's the latter and someone shot a horse on the trail....... You know the rest--an hour later the mail came, with the September issue. Never fails... Tim -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 97 00:26:00 UT From: "Tony Morgano" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: tie down points Scott, The recommended tie down points are the crash bars under the plastic. Do not attempt to use the soft ties(handlebra) as they will under stress crack the handelbar plastic. They might work once or twice, but if you have to make any serious driving maneuvers,the plastic is likely to give way. Tony Morgano -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:43:41 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 MPG To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 Tim, Interesting, I think I will have to check the manual to see if it warns of any problems with 92 octane gas. Thanks, Peter *************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"timmacy@juno.com" 11-AUG-1997 17:32:18.96 To: IN%"PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com" CC: Subj: RE: PC800 MPG On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:02:48 PT "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" writes: > I thought I would try the premium gas to see if it helped with the hesitation I am >experiencing between 2000 and 2500 rpm. Also my car gets a few mpg better with >the 92 octane gas than it does with regular. Hi again, Peter! This subject's come up in the past (92 octane in PCs). I can't quote any hard and fast evidence, although I'm sure someone on the list will. 92 octane really isn't good for the PC in the long run. It probably won't help with the hesitation, either, because I think the hesitation's probably mechanical. I run 89, and don't worry about using 88 or even 87, depending upon the part of the country I'm in. But the 92 octane gas will ultimately damage your engine. I wish I could tell you why...but I don't pretend to be a techie! Tim Return-path: id UsD09425; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:29:07 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:28:23 -0700 From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Subject: Re: PC800 MPG To: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 97 00:50:34 UT From: "Tony Morgano" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Rider Magazine To All, It seems that I forgot to mention that this event was the Rider Rally in the Pocono Mtn.(Pa.) The article is on page 58, with a poor photo on page 59. Sorry for the omision. PS> My first ride was and is a 1971 Norton Commando,in red. And thats Capt. Morgan sir! Tony -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MVerVelde@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA01952; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:04:28 -0400 (EDT) To: robertc@en.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC shipping tips? I transported my bike in the back of a small pick up. Only had the regular straps with the "S". I just routed the S around the handlebar and hooked it around the other end of the strap that lead to the anchor on the truck. Had to adjust the straps on both sides- compressing the shocks. Held solid, no damage even though the straps were not exactly straight... But the soft straps that someone else mentioned sounds gentler on the bike... Mike V. 90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WwX15172; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:19:30 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PETER_N1@sfov1.verifone.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:11:59 -0400 Subject: PC800: Wrist rest From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) Try calling 1-800-BMWBOBS. They sell a wrist rest. Other brand I know of is made by Luftmeister and called the throttlemeister ---I think. Anyway, check with Bob's. Myles ******************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---WANTING TO BUY A PC800 WHEN I SELL MY BMW. PLEASE BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WwZ15172; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:19:30 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: bmwmc@world.std.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:17:53 -0400 Subject: PC800: Leaving Wed From: myleslewis@juno.com (Myles B Lewis) I'll be leavinghome Wed morning and arriving NV that Evening. I'll be offline for a week or 2 till my loaner laptop arrives via mail. Thanks to all for the offers. I found one to buy reasonable and will be doing that after I get some $$$ together. I'll be staying at the Park VIew Inn in Elko so if anyone comes through, look me up and enjoy some floor space. Ride safe, talk to you soon, Myles--soon to be of ELKO,NV( where????) ********************** Myles B. Lewis-Bradenton, FL, USA-Riding OL' Yeller-A 1978 BMW R100/7-black & yellow, now a home made RT,or RC or R? -AMA #443756--BMWMOA #71292--BMWRA #20505--IBMWR-- --Florida SunBeemers---WANTING TO BUY A PC800 WHEN I SELL MY BMW. PLEASE BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3494900 ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:18:36 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:16:15 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Spamee's Revenge This is a little off the topic, but similar to what has been discussed lately regarding spamming. Do you get those unsolicited credit card applications in the mail? Here's what I do. I put all of their junk (that doesn't have my name on it) back in their postage paid envelope and mail it back to them. Gives me a little satisfaction knowing they had to pay postage and throw it away in their landfill rather than in mine. For the mailing list spammers on the web - I once heard a good solution, but forgot the details. It was something like copy their message over and over and reply to fill their mailbox. (is there such a thing as an auto-responder?) But a lot of hassle for little satisfaction. Complaining to their ISP is about the best you can do. Scot '89 PC800 Venus -------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Fireman Joe" To: Cc: "PC800 Listservice" Subject: Re: PC800: King of trunk space. problem reading... Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:01:47 -0400 It seems I don't have something set-up right..when I went to the web site you mentioned, http://www.i-dreams.co.jp/foresight/ I culdn't read it...it seems it's in another language that I didn't study in skool...... or can I make my web browser (IE3.0) convert the text??? if so HOW??? tnxs ++++++++++++++++ Fireman_Joe@CompuServe.Com hailing from CINCINNATI, OH USA!!! cableguy@one.net cellular 513-535-8203 ====MEMBER OF:======= Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email-CAUCE Honda Sport Touring Assoc.[http://members.aol.com/hstawww} Pacific Coast 800 {http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/] Time-Warner Cable Communications [http://www.pathfinder.com] ========================================= ********Favorite Star Trek site-----http://www.holodeck3.com ********Help Fight SPAM Join CAUCE http://www.cauce.org -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jgeist.lubtx@door.net (Jgeist Lubtx) Subject: PC800: Any Texans out there? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 04:02:07 GMT To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I'm beginning to think that I'm the only PC rider in town. Are there any PC'ers out there from Tx? Maybe even Lubbock? Sure would be cool! Let me know if you're out there. James Lubbock, Tx. '90 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: King of trunk space. problem reading... From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Aug 1997 23:15:49 -0500 Lines: 15 >>>>> "FJ" == Fireman Joe writes: FJ> It seems I don't have something set-up right..when I went to the web FJ> site you mentioned, http://www.i-dreams.co.jp/foresight/ I culdn't read FJ> it... It looks like perfectly readable Japanese to me. Of course, if you don't read Japanese you kind of out of luck. I haven't studied it for over three years now, so I'm not of much help. (Never could read it all that well anyway.) But I don't have Shockwave on my UNIX machine here at home, so the thing informs me in horribly polite Japanese that I can't play. Oh, well. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:38:01 -0400 From: "Randall R. Foster" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 89 PC 800 parts. Greetings, I have a 89 PC in wrecked condition. I have stripped the plastic off it and have thrown the unrepairable pieces away. There is nothing wrong with the egine/frame/running gear. The instrument cluster amd complete headlight assembly are in excellent shape. The front fender disc guard assembly made it through the crash unscathed. The chin piece of the faring behind the front wheel is in good condition. There are several other pieces of plastic stuff that survived. E-mail direct if looking for anything particular. I will also be selling the complete drive train, wheels etc. All brake rotors are good. Randall Foster rrfoster@bluenet.net -- Check our Homepage!! http://members.aol.com/TwinPinesF -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Any Texans out there? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 12 Aug 1997 00:07:59 -0500 Lines: 11 >>>>> "JL" == Jgeist Lubtx writes: JL> Are there any PC'ers out there from Tx? Well, the uh in hpc.UH.edu is University of Houston. Judging by the heat, it's not Houston, Norway. There are a few Texans here; in fact there's at least one other person from Houston lurking. I don't know about Lubbock, though. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:40:49 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Jap King of Trunk Hi Gang, sorry, I forgot to mention the site is in Japanese. I'm using Netscape 3.0 and the macromedia screen comes out just fine. I just ignored the Japanese words and read whatever little english there was. I wonder if Jason/Juan/Gerard could scan all the reviews/articles ever written about the PC and create an extension on their web pages for it. I tried looking for the popular mechanics review for a friend a few weeks back and seems like it isn't there anymore. Having such a web page with the reviews would be so cool in showing off the bike to our friends on the net....and perhaps win more converts to plastic. :) Just some suggestions on things that could appear on the web pages. Yu Seung -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: System Administrator Subject: PC800: One more Texan out here! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:21:19 -0500 (CDT) Yup, at least one more Texan here, the proud new owner of Gerri Ewing's Jetson-mobile. I felt bad posting to the list until I had the official Texas license and was riding the streets, but I've been shamed into it! :) Oh, and I'm in Northwest Houston. So far my PC experience is limited to 2nd gear in my apartment complex parking lot (which, thankfully, is a large rectangle, so I don't get too many stares as I go round and round!), but it's great so far! Funny how Jason and I are both Sys Admins at the University of Houston. Maybe the PC is a catching disease down here! Now I can sign... --John Roe N2HAQ '90 PC800, 4.3 John-miles (which takes a LOT of laps!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800 List Server Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:22:11 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: first "test" ** Reply to note from Guy & Sonya Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:11:12 -0700 > I was on my way to work at 0600 Friday morning and had my first test with > my new-to-me '89 PC800. A big rig with a flatbed was about 3 car lengths > ahead and we were exiting a sweeping off-ramp onto another freeway (down to > about 40mph). The truck had a 5+ gallon bucket of 1" by 3" (guessing) bolts > on the back and the bucket came sliding off. The off-ramp looked liked > somebody had just dumped marbles on it - the bolts were bouncing > everywhere. Some cars hit the bolts (or the bolts hit them). I was able to > break to a near stop faster and weave between the bolts. I was glad I was > not right behind the truck when it happened! > > The whole event reminded me to take things easy and give trucks and cars > (and bolts) plenty of room ahead of me. You never know when there is a > "test" ahead! > I was once following a tow truck when it hit a bump, and off the back flew a 3-5 pound sledge hammer!!! It skittered across my path and off the road without doing any damage, but it was a real eye-opener. If I had been following a little closer or in the other lane at the wrong time, I would have been spread out all over the road with little bits of motorcycle mixed in. It is now an ingrained habit to look carefully at any flatbed or other vehicle that might tend to "shed," and give them a wide berth. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:51:54 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: '98 PC 800 ** Reply to note from "Juan A. Goula" Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:07:02 -0800 > As far as I know, there will be no 1998 model for the PC. But then again, > we PC owners have heard that story before, haven't we? I do hope they will > bring it out. It would be nice to say that the PC had 10 years of > production (even if we missed a few years here in the US) if and when the > '99 model comes out. As far as when, it is just like cars. Check your math, Juan. The PC will have ten years' of production if and when the '98 comes out: 89 - 98 inclusive is ten years. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 29K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:09:47 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Trip report Hey guys! Get off the Net and on your bikes! I go away for 5 days and when I get back, there's 175 messages in my box, a personal record. Stop wasting my time! I intend to hereby break a record for trip reports, one that to my knowledge has not been attempted before: the shortest trip report. I went this weekend from home base in Columbia, MD to the Cleveland area to stay with some college friends and see the CART Indy Car race at Mid-Ohio, about 75 miles away. Took the interstates the whole way, and between Cleveland/Lexington. Trip report follows: BORING!!! End of report. The weather was nice on the way out, but overcast and sprinkly on the way back. I didn't have time to take some of the backroads in Western PA that I sometimes use, and since I've done this trip at least a dozen times, it wasn't much to write home about. (Of course, seeing my friends and going to the race was lots of fun. It's the ride itself that was dull.) However, there was *one* great thing about this trip: my new highway pegs. Thanks to Jim Randall's nice brackets (which he kindly expressed to me just in time to install before leaving) I was finally able to stretch my legs on those long stretches of boring Interslab! I have wanted pegs since my first long trip on the bike about six years ago, and played around with various possibilities, but never came up with anything. Jim's design is simple and easy to install. It also has the advantage of only requiring cuts to underside of the plastic crash bar covers, where they won't be noticed. When the pegs are in the folded position, they are nearly invisible, and if you take the pegs off, the bracket itself can't be seen unless you go looking for it. All in all, a good solution to my most serious complaint with the PC, and one that made an otherwise boring trip a little more comfortable, if not more interesting. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: , Daniel Mignardi Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:22:31 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Sept 6 meeting, follow up Addressed to: Daniel Mignardi Hi, guys, So far about half-a-dozen folks have expressed interest in the Sept 6 picnic I was proposing in Columbia, MD for Balto-Wash area PC800 owners. Dave Barlett is even thinking about coming up from Raleigh, NC! A long way to go, Dave, but you're certainly welcome. It would be nice to have a few more folks before making it a definite go. But in the meantime I'll look into making a reservation for the park, etc., and will get back to everyone with confirmation by next Monday, 8/18. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 29K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:52:28 +0200 To: pohys@singnet.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Jap King of Trunk At 20:40 12-08-97 +0800, Poh Yu Seung wrote: >I wonder if Jason/Juan/Gerard could scan all the reviews/articles ever >written about the PC and create an extension on their web pages for it. >I tried looking for the popular mechanics review for a friend a few >weeks back and seems like it isn't there anymore. Having such a web >page with the reviews would be so cool in showing off the bike to our >friends on the net....and perhaps win more converts to plastic. :) Yes, that's a great idea, but there are reviews and articles written in different languages, I have seen them in English, German, French. English should be no problem, but German and French would give a problem to translate, and if I could find the time to translate it all into English and Dutch. Gerard Pacific Coast Netherlands Gerard Diepeveen pcn@dsv.nl Webpager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2149445 ------------------------------------------- visit the Dutch Pacific Coast website: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:21:37 PT From: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" Subject: Re: PC800: '98 PC 800 To: jhyder@erols.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 James, I am not sure where you heard "10 years of production", my honda salesman stated clearly that the original production plan for the PC800 was to be '89 - '97. This is what the factory expected for the design. There were a few years it was not built due to low sales, but it was not intended to go past '97. It is possible that this may change, but the word I hear from Honda is that the PC800 will meld into the ST1100 and will come out as a 900cc motorcycle of mixed parents. Time will tell...... Peter ************************************* ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: IN%"jhyder@erols.com" "James Hyder" 12-AUG-1997 07:55:03.55 To: IN%"pc800@hpc.uh.edu" CC: Subj: RE: PC800: '98 PC 800 ** Reply to note from "Juan A. Goula" Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:07:02 -0800 > As far as I know, there will be no 1998 model for the PC. But then again, > we PC owners have heard that story before, haven't we? I do hope they will > bring it out. It would be nice to say that the PC had 10 years of > production (even if we missed a few years here in the US) if and when the > '99 model comes out. As far as when, it is just like cars. Check your math, Juan. The PC will have ten years' of production if and when the '98 comes out: 89 - 98 inclusive is ten years. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 29K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Return-path: by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAF02764; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:34:48 -0500 ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:53:10 -0500 (CDT) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13156 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:53:03 -0500 (CDT) by smtp3 (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22162 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:52:52 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: '98 PC 800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: James Hyder -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:54:18 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: James Hyder CC: PC800 List Server Subject: Re: PC800: first "test" > > > > > > I was once following a tow truck when it hit a bump, and off the back > flew a > 3-5 pound sledge hammer!!! It skittered across my path and off the > road > without doing any damage, but it was a real eye-opener. If I had been > > following a little closer or in the other lane at the wrong time, I > would > have been spread out all over the road with little bits of motorcycle > mixed > in. > > It is now an ingrained habit to look carefully at any flatbed or other > > vehicle that might tend to "shed," and give them a wide berth. A weekend doesn't go by in southern california without at least one report of furniture or a major appliance in the freeway. Over the years, I've run into chains, tire tread (by the ton) even an extension ladder. That was kind of tense. I've had a can opener kicked up by a tire penetrate my thigh, and nearly dropped a bike from pain when a locking gas cap fell off a cager traveling in the other direction took one bounce and hit me in the knee cap. I've gotten to where I consider it a part of the tradeoff for 2 wheeling, but nothing scares me like these Grapes of Wrath pick up trucks stacked 4 tiers high with someones household and tied off with packaging twine. When I see these I pass 3 lanes over or drop way back. I really don't want to deal with a refrigerator taking up two lanes at freeway speeds. (That's me, Rocky, not the fridge). > Alan Taylor 95 pc800 MidnightLong Beach CA > > > --James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 28K+ miles > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:38:24 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: '98 PC 800 At 10:51 8/12/97 EST, you wrote: >Check your math, Juan. The PC will have ten years' of production if and when >the '98 comes out: 89 - 98 inclusive is ten years. You got me there James. I do know that the next millenium doesn't start until Jan. 31. 3001, right? (or was that Feb 30?) :-) Ride safe! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:07:05 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Multilingual PC At 20:40 8/12/97 +0800, you wrote: >I wonder if Jason/Juan/Gerard could scan all the reviews/articles ever >written about the PC and create an extension on their web pages for it. Sorry Yu Seung, but I am no webmaster. I don't even have a web page of my own (yet). I would, however, be happy to translate any articles wrtten on the PC that might come from Spain or other spanish publication (and I promise to double check my math James). Anybody seen one? Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:37:21 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "David L. Williamson" Subject: PC800: PC800 Used Prices There was a '90 PC800 with 8K miles in our paper (Raleigh, NC) yesterday. The guy was asking $6000. The most recent MCN used bike guide listed it at an average of $4045. Out of curiosity, I called the guy. It sold in 3 days (I was too late) for $5750. Heck, I can get a brand new one for $8500!! Do these bikes really hold their value that well? Or was this one case an exception? Dave -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:19:26 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: One more Texan out here! Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:10:53 -0400 I use to be a Texan but left 25 years ago. Even went to Cougar High. I can't go back since I can't carry enough fire power on my PC. Vince PS What so funny about being a sys admin? ---------- Funny how Jason and I are both Sys Admins at the University of Houston. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jfmoemd@aol.com by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA11553 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:24:07 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: "Parts is parts!" Hi y'all! To make a long and painful story short - I wrecked my '94 PC. I need plastic parts for the left-hand side and I need the front fairing. The PC is black/silver. With the UPS strike I am not having much luck getting parts from the dealer. Anyone have such items stored away? John in Indianapolis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:10:06 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: '98 PC 800 PETER NOETH, SR. SYSTEMS ENGINEER, GPS-SFO X5567 wrote: > I am not sure where you heard "10 years of production", my Honda salesman > stated clearly that the original production plan for the PC800 was to > be '89 - '97. This is what the factory expected for the design. There were > a few years it was not built due to low sales, but it was not intended to > go past '97. It is possible that this may change, but the word I hear from > Honda is that the PC800 will meld into the ST1100 and will come out as a > 900cc motorcycle of mixed parents. Time will tell...... Does this mean the PC/ST 900 will have three cylinders? Maybe they ought to talk to Triumph. Steve Churchill "Katie" 4.6K mi and counting -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:12:29 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ka2wij@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: first "test" Alan Taylor wrote: > A weekend doesn't go by in southern california without at least one > report of furniture or a major appliance in the freeway. Over the years, > I've run into chains, tire tread (by the ton) even an extension ladder. > That was kind of tense. > > I've had a can opener kicked up by a tire penetrate my thigh, and nearly > dropped a bike from pain when a locking gas cap fell off a cager > traveling in the other direction took one bounce and hit me in the knee > cap. > > I've gotten to where I consider it a part of the tradeoff for 2 > wheeling, but nothing scares me like these Grapes of Wrath pick up > trucks stacked 4 tiers high with someones household and tied off with > packaging twine. When I see these I pass 3 lanes over or drop way back. > I really don't want to deal with a refrigerator taking up two lanes at > freeway speeds. (That's me, Rocky, not the fridge). > > > Alan Taylor > You lead an exciting life! SAC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PXY02901; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:26:48 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rednorton@msn.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:10:51 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: newbie From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) Tony, I had just saw and read that article last night on the job! That's great that you won that award. I was looking at it and I saw some of that detailing that you had done and was wishing that I could get a better look at it. What have you done with the bike besides the detailing? I am a member of the SCPCRC (Southern Califrornia Pacific Coast Riders Club) and I am sure that they would love to see some photos of your PC and possibly add them to our website. Some of our members have their PC's tricked out as well. Besides, seeing something new may just add that much more excitement to our conversations and possibly our PC's!! Congratulations on the win from this PC owner, Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and little if any humidity. Southern California, what a great place to live!! On Mon, 11 Aug 97 00:57:31 UT "Tony Morgano" writes: >Hello PC'ers, >I've been reading your corresondence for approx. 2 months and found it >to be >quite enjoyable and informative. The reason for my sudden jump into >the >conversation is the latest issue of Rider Magazine. It seams that a PC >won the >Peoples Choice award for best sport bike. I think that we have finally >made >our (my) point. We ride a great machine! BTW, that bike belongs to me. > It's >loaded to the max with goodies. I will glad to talk (obviously) to all >about >my ride. Tony >Morgano > >rednorton@msn.com > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id QmQ02901; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:10:28 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: wanda_bailie@smtpgw.kentrox.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:06:49 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: J&M AudioPak From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I'm planning on getting J&M's MI-1575 (Music with Dynavox III) and the Elite series helmet headset (HS-BE157JH-FF) installed on my '96. Please don't tell me any war stories like that with J&M! I am not in the mood to have to go through some mess like that! I've got too much love to spread around and not enough time to do it!! 8^)!! When I spoke to the J&M rep on the phone he seemed attentive, cordial and very helpful to my needs. But then again I didn't want the audio pak. Does anyone out there have the same configuration that I am going to have installed? Are you satisfied?!? Is there clarity in intercom and music at freeway speeds? I decided to go with them because no matter what people, dealers, etc, have always referred to them as the "leader" though being somewhat pricey! I will be getting mine installed at an authorized J&M Technician at Huntington Honda, Ca. Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and little if any humidity. Southern California, what a great place to live!! On Mon, 11 Aug 97 07:56:51 PST "Wanda Bailie" writes: > If you have a newer Pacific Coast than '89, DON'T DO IT. I got > one and went through 5 different filters without success in > getting the noise out. They know it has a problem with the PC > and the older ones they made a filter for (at about $50.00 extra) > > and the newer ones they said they hadn't had enough complaints to > > bother with making a filter. I asked them how many times I > needed to call and complain. They said I could call as many > times as I want and they still wouldn't do anything about it. > Their customer service and help is lousy and they have an > attitude of "tough shit" when you talk to them. After fighting > them for 8 months I finally got my money back and went to M. R. > Communications and got a custom set installed in the trunk. It > works great. Their phone number is (206) 335-1296 and they now > have a e-mail address mrcom@premier1.net . Contact them for > some good advice on what to do. Good luck. > Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: PC800: J&M AudioPak >Author: Bernie at INTERNET-KENTROX >Date: 8/8/97 4:36 PM > > >I saw an add today in "Rider" for The CB Personal AudioPak by J&M of = > >Tucson. The Personal AudioPak consist of a Midland CB Radio with 40 >= > >channels with a built in FM turner. One of the local motorcycle >dealers = > >here in KC is an authorized installer. Has anyone tried you of these >= > >units on a PC? For $565, including headset institution, the AudioPak >is = > >an interesting deal. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Witzell To: Jfmoemd@aol.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: "Parts is parts!" John, Are you ok? Please inform us as to what happened so we may all learn. Nick > To make a long and painful story short - I wrecked my '94 PC. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:05:21 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Joe Neisser Subject: PC800: Oil Filter Wrench Does anyone know where I can get a good oil filter wrench for the PC800 oil filter. I changed the oil this weekend and I had to jam a wedge between the wrench and the filter. thanks joe 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: AM Interference w/Hondaline AM/FM radio Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:17:16 GMT Just a quick note to let you all know that I've fixed my problem. I bought a part (HPC-400) manufactured by J&M Corp. from D+K Motorcycle Things (http://www.dnkmotorcycle.com/) for the '89 and '90 Pacific Coast to eliminate interference. Just popped out the left vent and added this thing in series and no more interference. Looks like it is a couple of capacitors. Cost ~$40. Works for me. ]Monty[ '89 PC 'No name' (kinda like Hondapotamus tho') -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mashaw@mindspring.com (Monty Shaw) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: AM Interference w/Hondaline AM/FM radio Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:21:49 GMT =46orgot to add that the URL for the part is: http://www.jmcorp.com/product/othertb4.htm ]Monty[ '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Any PC's for sale? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:24:56 -0700 Dear Group, I have a friend who has seen the light and has sold his BMW R1100 RT. He is a former owner of an '89 PC and wishes to return. He just called me and asked if I knew of any for sale. We live in Modesto, California. However, information on any PC for sale would help him get a price range. Anything available in the central California area would be even better. I'm currently not on the Mail-list, so please send any responses directly to me. Thanks Spencer -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:26:27 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Joe Neisser CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil Filter Wrench Joe Neisser wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a good oil filter wrench for the PC800 oil filter. It's a little pricey, but Honda makes one. ($23?) It can also be used to remove the fork caps when the time comes to change the fork oil. (Once you see the tool it will make perfect sense to you, believe me...) This is one area where it's worth the extra $ for the Honda specific tool. gk. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:27:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Re: PC800: Oil Filter Wrench Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:18:59 -0400 Joe, You can pay mucho bucks at your local Honda dealer or take a filter to Wal Mart and find one to fit for a lot less $$$. Vince ---------- > Does anyone know where I can get a good oil filter wrench for the PC800 oil > filter. I changed the oil this weekend and I had to jam a wedge between the > wrench and the filter. > > thanks > joe > 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:39:02 -0400 From: Hal MacDonald To: "David L. Williamson" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Used Prices Hi I have recently purchased a Honda ST1100 and my '89 PC is reluctantly for sale. There is mine and a '90 both in the Motorcycle trader for Toronto area (Canada) and both are about $6000. Canadian/$4300 US Mine has about 7500 Miles (11700 Kilometers) and the other has 12000 miles. Mine has tall and stock shield, backrest, upper and lower spoilers, new tire on rear due to puncture, and nose faring protector (bra). I am told that both bikes are immaculate and they have been well maintained. The pricing I think depends on mileage, condition, and options, but more importantly who owned it and how they feel about bikes and maintenance etc. Along the lines of which bike is better- They are different bikes and excell in different areas. For shorter rides and about town the PC is a bit ahead and handles better. Going on longer trips or hard "sport-bike twisties" at high speeds the ST has the edge. Both are superbly crafted and engineered products and anyone could be proud to own either. I would not trade even either bike for any of the new Harley Ds that I tested recently at a dealer's "come ride" unless it was for a purely monitary gain. If anyone on the list is interested please e-mail me and I will send you my phone number and arrange a time to call. My Fax # (905)683-2669 Best regards and ride safely Hal David L. Williamson wrote: > > There was a '90 PC800 with 8K miles in our paper (Raleigh, NC) yesterday. > The guy was asking $6000. The most recent MCN used bike guide listed it at > an average of $4045. > > Out of curiosity, I called the guy. It sold in 3 days (I was too late) for > $5750. > > Heck, I can get a brand new one for $8500!! > > Do these bikes really hold their value that well? Or was this one case an > exception? > > Dave > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: maddog@lakes.ring.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: 12 Aug 1997 21:05:06 EDT Subject: PC800: PC800 Used Prices Personally, I think that's a bit much for a '90 -- Heck, did they even cost that much new? But, if anyone is looking for a really immaculate PC, I have reluctantly decided to put my '95 up for sale: 1,900 Miles (Original Owner), Includes extended warranty, Guardian cover and Battery Tender. I'm asking $6,000.00 and live 25 miles Northwest of Detroit. I'll even throw in a filter wrench! Reply to: MadDog@lakes.ring.com DL>There was a '90 PC800 with 8K miles in our paper (Raleigh, NC) yesterday. DL>The guy was asking $6000. The most recent MCN used bike guide listed it at DL>an average of $4045. DL>Out of curiosity, I called the guy. It sold in 3 days (I was too late) for DL>$5750. DL>Heck, I can get a brand new one for $8500!! DL>Do these bikes really hold their value that well? Or was this one case an DL