********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 11:59:55 -0500 To: From: Franz Anton Krager Subject: PC800: Thank you for your helpful responses Fellow PC'ers, In my time of need, you came through big time! If you'll recall, I put out a disress call, about 2 weeks ago, regarding the windshield problem I was experiencing on my '95 PC. I had just purchased a Hondaline tall windshield (thank God I hadn't installed it on the bike yet). Your numerous responses to my questions and concerns were prompt, informative and consistent. Based on your passionate recommendations for me to consider the Rifle PC Windshield System, I have contacted Rifle and ordered a 22" clear. The Honda dealer did allow me to return the Hondaline tall. So, a happy ending to report! Many thanks to all of you who took a moment to advise me. I am most appreciative. FAK -- Franz Anton Krager, Director of Orchestras University of Houston Moores School of Music Houston, TX 77204-4893 (713) 743-3189 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BJack40L@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA07799 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:33:41 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 Sound System Ken Bopp asked if anyone had any experience with K&J Cycle sound? I bought one of their systems for my '89 PC about 3 years ago. It was kinda basic (based on a walkman type personal stereo), but it was a good deal considering the price. It included the personal stereo, some perforated aluminum speaker grilles for the dash and all o the electronics. I wrote thembefore I bought. They wrote back that they were too busy to answer the phone. They sent a business card with phone# with the installation inst, but I lost it. My friend Barry bought one last year for his '94 PC. Mine had a stereo made by Craig that wa okay, His came with a stereo by RCA that is better because it had auto reverse. We also bought MAXON bike to bike communiators from K&J. They were $100 including setup for passenger intercom. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 15:45:37 -0700 Subject: PC800: Fuel Question From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I was wondering how far down in the Red zone do other PC'ers go before fueling up again. Does the petcock allow you to go beyond the red to the point where it stops when the ignition is turned off?!? It seems to me that when I get into the red zone and fill up I never get more than 3 1/2 gallons back into it, what's up with my 4.2 gallon capacity PC?!?! I just haven't gotten the "Nad" to test it out by just running until I go dry. Thanks in advance!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 16:43:45 -0700 Subject: PC800: Introduction of Newest Member 94-95,99-100,103-104,108-109,115-116,120,122,124-125,128,132,135-139 From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) Southern California,..........what a great place to live!! --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Chargerblue- To: Majordomo@hpc.uh.edu ( THIS IS WHERE I MADE MY MISTAKE) Subject: Introduction of Newest Member Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:46:47 PST To each and Every PC owner............WOW!!! What a machine we own huh?!? I am so Excited, first let me introduce myself and then let me tell you why. My name is Samuel Davis III or Sammy D to my friends. I have been back in the U.S. for the last year after spending 10 years overseas with the U.S.A.F (3 yrs U.K., 7 yrs Tokyo). I live in Oceanside, Ca. I saw the other O'side guy on the list. (We'll definitely have to get together for sure, Because I want to see all those mods you've had done!) I had the dealer custom install a real nice cruise control(That Nice Vista Cruise like mentioned in the Archives) on mine that looks real professional. I really haven't even used it yet because I haven't got that pain of"Throttle Grip" yet!! Oh well!! it looks real good for now! I now commute to downtown San Diego 5 days(75-80 miles a day) a week on my PC .....let's cut to the chase!! I have never owned/or ridden a motorcycle in my life but when I saw a PC at my local Honda dealer I knew that I had to have that bike!!! Two months later I got one. I couldn't find a used one in the cycle trader. Actually, I was hoping not to find a used one anyway, my pride said if there's any damage to be done on it, I wanted it to be done myself. From what I've read of the list here it seems that the '96 is the way to go and sure enough I got one. You know, the red one! Wow!! I get so excited just because you get to be a part of the landscape you're riding in and it just makes you want to ride all day and just experience life!!! For those of you that aren't or haven't been here in Southern California there is a stretch of the Pacific Coast Highway here (Oceanside-La jolla) that just makes you melt and feel all gooey inside! The Last few days alone have been great for "Coasting"! The beach is right, the weather is right, traffic is right I mean you have just gotta love being alive!! Hey what a minute Pacific Coast 800 and Pacific Coast Highway.....Hmmmm, I think I'm on to something or has someone beat me to that punch?! 8^)! Anyway, while I'm on that PC nobody can tell me that MY bike was not made for cruising Southern California!!! It just fits in perfectly with California! Aesthetically speaking our bike is perfection!! Now don't get me wrong, I do intend on heading up north, and go out of state and get into some cold/ wet weather to experience all I can with my bike. I just went out to my Dealer today and ordered my XXXL thermal Overalls. I am 6' 3'' 245lbs. I also enjoy going for a ride at night when it gets cold, it just feels good to have the open road and cool breeze in your face!! Okay I know that I sound crazy, maybe it's just this "Newness" that has me wrappped under it's spell but you got to see some So. Cal sights to understand. Especially when the weather is just perfect!! Of course who couldn't say that about their homestate anyway?!? Did any of you read that road trip about the rider that put the diesel in her tank?!?! She got all jazzed up because of those flowers in my neigboring city of Carlsbad. You know something?!? I know another place that would be excellent to ride through as well, I got Married in Prince George County, Maryland and remember going through some real beautiful roads towards the town court house. It was October and those leaves were falling and turning all shades of brown, orange, (Red?!?) I just remember it was really, really beautiful. I think I need to go there again! I also appreciate the power that this bike has. It has even gotten my wife excited about getting on the road with me. (Marriage Enhancement?!? Any testimonials?!?) I want to head out to Texas about 6 months down the road. How do you think our bike can handle 2 passengers California to Texas?!? Bad weather or not. Anybody out there know how San Antonio Gets around November-December time frame?!?! Complaints/Comments: I got that chatterbox intercom set for our Shoei RF700 full face helmets and it seems to me that when you hit about 60-75 Mph you have got to yell to understand each other. I haven't really listened to music yet but I will. Are there any other in helmet intercom/music systems that can put out a little more volume?!? Or is it a thing where I need to get a larger windshield, since I do have the stock one, to give my helmet a little more wind resistance ?!? I am thinking of getting that Saeng Stealth windshield edging. Prior to purchasing a Rifle. I think I probably need about another good 5-6 inches of wind protection, so that I can hear engine, intercom and music. Can that Edging give me that 5- 6 inches folks?!? From what I've been reading from this list and it seemed to me that most folks are against the taller shield. I just want to see one. The ones that do have the Rifle Shields seem the most happier. I like the Idea of being able to look over the shield to see the road (Isn't that how it's supposed to be anyway?!?) I want to have that silence you get when you bend over beneath the windshield. Anyway I've went on enough, thanks for letting me on the list and I hope to see another PC on the road!! --------- End forwarded message ---------- That was dated May 13th and it just took me until today to properly get my outgoing messages going to the list. Thank you Mr. Tibbs!!! I have been able to read all the good stuff on this list and not respond: "I have no mouth, yet I must scream!" Since that date I have Returned my Chatterboxes and am waiting to hear from others who feel they have superior in helmet intercom/music systems and why. before I do buy and want to know what anyone knows about the Collett Communicators from Canada. Have installed Stealth Edging around my stock small windshield and have noticed a Drastic change in that wind buffeting but still would like to see a Rifle in the flesh before I buy. Had the Honda line backrest installed and have found out that it will have to go because I wil be buying that Givi 50 liter carrier and rack. Did someone mention that there is a back rest on it so that my better half can rest her back?!?! My wife and I purchased and wear Ultra II Cordura pants & Jacket by Difi whenever we travel. They were a little costly but that road rash is no joke. We got them from Motoport. I was shocked when I found out that they were 10 minutes from my house in Carlsbad. If you ever go be sure to speak to Kelani. He was a great help and he can even have them custom tailored to fit you. Great guy! Have put over 3400 miles on in just over a month and I am just wondering, I know my bike is still breaking in (Right?!?) but is about 130 miles per fill up (Just hitting the red zone) the best that I am going to get or is it going to get better with age?!? I've seen in the archives guys are saying that they are hitting 150-180 a fill up. could it be my weight (245) that keeps me from reaching at least the 150 a fill up plateau?!? I am commuting Daily (75-80 miles) not to get into another Oil viscosity thread but any suggestions. Also have any of you used those splitfire (?) sparkplugs and are they any good ?!? Also, how high RPMs are you getting before switching gears. I am going about 4k before switching. Is that too high, too low?!? I know that a MSF course will help and I will be going to one in about two months as things slow down. Whew, okay I am sorry that this got a little long winded but I have been looking from the outside in and been waiting to scream!!! Hear me Roar!!! 8^))! Thanks in advance!! Go Chargers go!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BJack40L@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA19008 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:00:04 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: fuel question Figure on getting about 42 to 43 mpg (a total capacity of about 160) miles. After many year on bikes witut fuel guages, I rely on my trip odometer. I begin to get nervous when I get up to about 150 mi. At that point, the neele is pointing at the filler hose of the ful pump pictured on the guage. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 17:02:50 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Samuel Davis III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Samuel Davis III wrote: > > I was wondering how far down in the Red zone do other PC'ers go before > fueling up again. > Does the petcock allow you to go beyond the red to the point where it > stops when the ignition is turned off?!? > It seems to me that when I get into the red zone and fill up I never get > more than 3 1/2 gallons back into it, what's up with my 4.2 gallon > capacity PC?!?! I just haven't gotten the "Nad" to test it out by just > running until I go dry. > Thanks in advance!! Hi There! I'm sure you'll be getting a lot of responses to this one, but here's mine!! :) I did run the tank dry just to test it (I carried a bottle in the trunk for my reserve). When it was running dry, it did give me a warning with a very noticeable hestitation when I tried to accelerate. This isn't much of a warning, but I would have been able to make it a block or so to gas station, if there would have been one that close. I ran it completely dry, to where the engine finally quit, and I got about 180 miles on the odometer. The gas guage was reading well beyond the red to where the needle was touching the little gas guage symbol. My personal time to refill is now about 150 miles. I feel that gives me a little reserve in case I'm getting some poor mileage on a particular day. BTW, when I put my reserve fuel in the tank, after having ran it bone dry, it started up immediately, but took just a few seconds of running before I could accelerate normally. I have a '90 PC with the tall Hondaline windshield, and I get an average of 40 plus miles per gallon in most riding conditions. Enjoying the ride, Phil Lewis Mission Viejo -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:03:09 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question >> It seems to me that when I get into the red zone and fill up I never get >> more than 3 1/2 gallons back into it, what's up with my 4.2 gallon >> capacity PC?!?! Around town I don't fill up until it's well into the "Handle" part of the gas pump icon. This gives me about a half liter left of the 16l tank. I'm more conservative on road trips- I've been in several towns which although they looked on the map big enough to have a gas station open on Sunday, didn't, and ended up begging for gas door-to-door- humiliating enough to even change bad habits. > When it was running dry, it did give me a warning with >a very noticeable hestitation when I tried to accelerate. This isn't >much of a warning, but I would have been able to make it a block or so >to gas station, I've run it dry a couple times too and noticed the same thing. It's a lot like one carb gets the gas, the other doesn't- but I don't know for sure. It's not quite enough of a warning to be useful. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 21:09:03 -0500 (CDT) To: : Subject: PC800: STAR Oklahoma Rally Just wondering if anyone from the upper midwest is planning on going to the STAR '97 rally in Eufaula, Ok in June. I will be heading out of southeastern Wisconsin and would glad to meet up with other fellow riders for the trip there. I am thinking of tenting but my back tells me that a motel room bed would be inviting. E-mail me directly if you are interested in meeting somewhere for the trip there. Also, just out of curiosity, how many other list members are planning on going??? Bob Rufener '89 PC800 Hartford, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:32:16 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Samuel Davis III" Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction of Newest Member Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:03:37 -0400 Welcome and thanks for the great letter. I agree with you that the PC is just about the perfect bike for all around use. I have a Transalp and a 1100 Shadow which are also nice but not as versatile as the PC. I seem to get around 50 miles to the gallon in normal driving (under 60 MPH).I don't push it very hard normally. When I hit 150 miles I start looking for gas like most others on the PC list. Vince ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: chargerblue@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:46:16 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Introduction of Newest Member From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Sammy D, Irt your question re the fuel gage. You can run it until the needle is well up on the nozzle of the gas pump icon, not the hose, but way up on the metal nozzle. I've done it many times, have 70,000 on my '90 and have never run out of gas. However, you should look for a station at about 150 miles - sooner, if you're out in the boonies. You have about a gallon left when you hit the red mark. The Pacific Coast Highway is great for the PC,but I was there a week ago and there is lots of construction from about 20 miles above Cambria all the way to Big Sur. I have the Saeng Stealth edging on my Hondaline tall shield and the difference is so small that I'm not even certain there is any. However, you say that you have the edging on your standard shield, so just transfer it to the Rifle and see what happens. I guess I'm trying to say that the Saeng edging varies drastically in it's effectiveness from shield to shield. This is supported by many comments I've seen on this list. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:07:05 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: BJack40L@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: fuel question BJack40L@aol.com wrote: > > Figure on getting about 42 to 43 mpg... On secondary roads with average speed around 50 mph, I average about 53 mpg. My all time low was 48 mpg and all time high was 60 mpg. As they say: "Your mileage may vary..." gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:22:46 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:22:19 -0800 From: Eric York To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plates and things Seen in a moto mag some years ago - a hawg with "VIBR8TR" plate. Eric York -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Plates and things From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 12:17:02 EDT My Benelli Sei has the tag "EURO6". Mike Larson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:57:26 -0700 Subject: PC800: Thanks for the info folks!! From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I want to thank ya'll for all the info that I've been receiving on the fuel gauge. I had went to the archives on the subject and really just got mileage numbers and not a fuel gauge "Better fill up" point to work with. I am excited and ready to work this tank thing out to see where I stand amongst my brethren in the gas mileage war. Hope to see ya' on the roads!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 11:00:10 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Daniel MacKay CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The COOL PC! Daniel MacKay wrote: > > It *is* a cool bike. > > If memory serves, *the* official Honda Technical Feature for the bike is > that heat from the engine does not get to the rider. > > I live in Canada. For all but about three days of the year it would be > wonderful to bask in the heat from the engine, and I fell in love with a > bike which specifically avoids it. > FYI: The heat from the radiator "exhaust" vents can be used to warm your knees! The technique is to ride with your knees spread away from the sides of the bike. Try it and you will find there is a sweet spot where you will feel the radiator heat in an eddy behind the fairing. Too close to the bike and you will feel the cold backwash turbulence behind your legs, too far and you will feel the cold oncoming airstream, in between you will feel a warm spot from the radiator airflow. I've found it also helps to put your heel on the pegs and point your toes down. For some reason this helps but I have no idea why. The only drawback is that with my legs spread I don't feel like I have as much control on the twisties. Phil Lewis says he can't find the sweet spot without spreading his legs uncomfortably far. Phil is also, shall we say, height challenged and to get his knees out to the same distance from the sides of the bike requires a greater angle. I'm 6' tall and I find the sweet spot is comfortable for me to find and hold. Phil however has just installed in the rear of the fairings just in front of the knees, some vents scavenged from a junked car dash. This is reminiscent of the vents on a Goldwing. He's done a good job though he was not done on the detail work when I saw it. He'll let you how he did it and how it works. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2564 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Johan Lai To: "'pc800'" Subject: PC800: Ride report for 5/24 to Santa Barbara, CA Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:07:17 -0700 A bit late, but it's here..... :) Trek to Santa Barbara 5/24 The day started out at Coco's restaurant when just about everyone gathered for breakfast. A Light meal was in order since we knew we'd be piggin' out at Santa Barbara. When we were just about done, Rusty arrived. This ride marks yet another first. It's our biggest group yet, 9 bikes! (10 if you include Steve Churchill whom met in Santa Barbara. The ride up the San Diego (405) freeway was uneventful. We did run into a few snags but they weren't major. A few cagers decided 9 bikes in a row didn't constitute a group and cut in on us on a few occasions. One thing I do want to note is that we did execute lane changes most excellently! We still need some practice on our road rules but I think we did great on the first try. We made a stop in Santa Monica for gas and a restroom break and we were off again. Riding on Pacific Coast highway on our beloved PC's was a joy best shared! The beauty of the ocean along the way provided serenity beyond belief! There was a little stretch while the Pacific Coast Highway worked its way through the city of Oxnard. However, we were back on the 101 in no time and cruised along the ocean again. Unbeknownst to us, a traffic jam awaits us just prior to entering Santa Barbara, an accident right where 3 lanes turn into 2. That chewed up a good chunk of our time and we were already 30 minutes to 1 hour behind on meeting Stephen and Carol. When we finally got to Santa Barbara, we were all pretty hungry and were betting Steven and Carol had moved on. But they were there waiting for us, anticipating our tardiness due to the traffic snarl several miles before! Thanks Stephen and Carol! You're good sports. It was a crowded pier. I didn't think it was possible to have so many people and vehicles on the pier. The restaurant was jam packed also. This was when I had reflected that perhaps we should have picked another day for a ride :) For a while there, we thought we'd have to sit in different tables because it was next to impossible to get all 15 or so of us in one table. Patty managed to eyeball a large table to seat 11 and the remaining 4 just went to the table around the corner. This was fine, Lillian and I got to know Larry and Trish a little over lunch. After lunch, I went to get ice cream while Lillian looked in some shops...NOT a good idea. By the time I found her, the ice cream melted all over :( Note for next time - buy ice cream only when she's there to eat it! The pictures show that we were parked around a cannon. This was a live cannon that fired every Friday at noon. Our final destination was Lake Cachuma. As we headed off the pier, I made a grave error - I took us down State Street, the main road through downtown Santa Barbara. I hadn't realized how far away highway 154 was. We were all cooked pretty good in the toasty 95 degree heat. Sorry about that guys :( When we reached the 154, the road to Lake Cachuma, we started getting heavy gusts of wind. About a third of the way up, Alan and Andrea had turned back and Patty was frightened pretty good. We pushed on but the wind was just too big for some of us. So three bikes continued to the Lake while the rest of us turned back. When the three came back, we were informed that we were just 4 miles away from the lake when we turned back. Duh!! Oh well, I hope Rusty got some good pictures for us. We discussed options on how to get home. the final verdict was 2 will run back down the PCH, 4 head home and 4 head to a BBQ rib dinner in Van Nuys. This was a great day. Who knows, our next meeting may break the record number of bikes again! Until June....... Johan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 11:16:24 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: jleech@erinet.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Consumer News Jeff Leech wrote: > Also, for the person looking for a low milage '89 PC-800, from June > MCN, > > 1989 PACIFIC COAST, 3000 miles, > tall windshield, passenger backrest, > always garaged, $ 3500. Evenings > (308) 432-2537 > > Best I can figure it, that puts the bike somewhere in the Western > Nebraska Panhandle, beautiful country, with lots and lots of rolling > grassland. > This is a great buy! I wish I could convince my wife and my banker to get it! But then I just bought a new one. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2564 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:24:48 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Fuel Question To: Samuel Davis III , "Fellow PC800's" WELL, itr has been my experience that if my needle hits the pump, then hi= ts the little P on the gauge that means I will be pushhing it very soon.... = I have run out a couple times and have been able to luckly have a spare ca= n with fuel near by (comming back from alaskA thru Bannff and I camep out a= t the pumps up at the Artic Circle)....... the best advise is run 150 miles= then stop....i keep a closer eye on my mileage then the gas gauge they ca= n vary....if it is on the pump I get looking real hard for a station.....I have seen it go almost past the pump on the guage but that was a day with= a good tail wind an I coasted a lot down hill..... Fireman Joe 90 PC800 plate=3D CATV2 Cincinnati ohio -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:49:56 +0200 (MET DST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Need some help Dear PC800 friends, I am in need of some help. I have a testpage on our server with different models of the PC800 but I am not sure if the descriptions I've put under the pictures are correct, could any of you please help me, are there models missing maybe? The page can be found at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/models.htm Thank you'all for your kind help. Gerard Diepeveen, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:10:54 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 16:11:10 -0700 From: tomp@mmrs.state.ms.us (Tom Patterson) To: Gerard Diepeveen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help Gerard, You surely will get some responses back on that post! I view with Netscape 3.0 on Windows 3.1 and also on a Mac. The page looks OK. The pictures look fairly good on the SVGA PC but look superb on the Mac 17'. You have a fixed width yellow panel on the left. The picture cells are centered. Their position relative to the panel shifts depending on the width of the viewing window. Some widths look good, some not so good. Put the pictures in a separate frame window and it should look fine, i.e., like your home page. In the USA I thought the model years were 89,90,94-97. Maybe it was different in Europe. Tom Patterson Pearl, MS USA 89' PC800 - 21k -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: name change From: rocheux@juno.com (Stanley E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 17:16:16 EDT You may have seen my postings as Rochambeau@juno.com. I have changed my name to rocheux (means Rocky in French & Rocky is my nickname) as I felt uneasy encroaching on the Rochambeau family in France, the US and elsewhere by using their name as I did. See you around.... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rahardy@juno.com Cc: chargerblue@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: How much gas does it hold? From: rocheux@juno.com (Stanley E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 17:16:15 EDT I sent this and it never got posted. I try again. Never run out of fuel on a high speed run. Pursuant to the instructions which came with my owner's manual on my new BMW R-60 in 1969, fuel is a coolant and a lubricant and running out of fuel on a high speed run can cause engine damage. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Gerard Diepeveen , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:04:46 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help Addressed to: Gerard Diepeveen pc800@hpc.uh.edu Gerard, In the U.S., the '89 was the only pearl white model. The '90 was the "Bordeaux" red, as you put it, although Honda called it "Candy Red." There were no PCs from '91-'93, then the colors as you have them are correct. You have shown the lower half of the Candy Red model as a darker gray than that on the '89 model. While it looks that way in photos (e.g. the brochure photo at http://www.erols.com/jhyder/pc800/pcbroch8.jpg) I have always been under the impression that they were in fact the same silver/gray. Perhaps someone who has seen or owned both can tell us. (And is it the same as on the '94s and '95?) Otherwise, looks great. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: York@sou.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plates and things From: rocheux@juno.com (Stanley E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 17:16:15 EDT I had one on a Sportster that read "HOGLET." On Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:22:19 -0800 Eric York writes: >Seen in a moto mag some years ago - a hawg with "VIBR8TR" plate. > >Eric York >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA23576 for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:01:45 -0400 (EDT) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu cc: KANDJCS@aol.com Subject: PC800: 89 PC For Sale I have decided that I can't justify keeping both of my two '89 PC800s. So, on of them is for sale! I have a sentimental attachment to one of the bikes because it has been my loyal and reliable companion for nearly 21,000 miles. I bought the other bike from a riding acquaintance who decided he preferred golfing over riding.( I doubt that he rode 500 mi each of the last two summers!) This new bike has less than 4900 miles. I was planning to keep his bike as a long-term collectible, but I have an opportunity to buy an '88 Mercedes 560Sl and could use the cash. I can't decide which bike to part with, so I've decided to offer them both and keep whichever doesn't sell. The one with 21,000 mi has Hondaline tall windsheild, backrest, K&J sound system, pin-stripes, short windsheild used 1 month ASKING $2900 The one with 4900 mi has hondaline tall windsheild, Short windsheild used 4 months. Bike is in mint cond. ASKING $4400 Both bikes have been garage kept in a suburb of Baltimore, Md since new. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rusty Jackson (Home)" To: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Dash for '90 PC Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:42:29 -0700 I posted this a month or two ago, but as of yet, I have been unsuccessful in locating a replacement dash for my PC. I want a new dash that doesn't have the speaker cut outs removed, but I don't want to pay the unbelievably high price that Honda wants for a new one. So, if anyone knows a place that I may be able to find one of these or if you have a wrecked PC that you wouldn't mind selling a dash off of, please let me know. Thanks, Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com (work) rusty@san.rr.com (home) Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com Personal Web: http://204.210.52.21 -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 21:26:28 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: "Gerard Diepeveen" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Need some help Gerard, 89 The only Pearl White year 90 Bourdeaux Red 91-93 No new PCs 94&95 Black 96&97 Rrreddd I know '89 was the only Pearl White year (I had to be selective, since I bought my Pearl White '89 just last year, and 90 was Bourdeaux Red. I believe they only made Bourdeaux Red in 90, then took three years off to move their inventory. I could be wrong about that. They definately went with Black for 94&95 and Rreeddd for 96&97. - Pauly -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Behalf Of Gerard Diepeveen Sent: Monday, June 02, 1997 12:50 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Need some help Dear PC800 friends, I am in need of some help. I have a testpage on our server with different models of the PC800 but I am not sure if the descriptions I've put under the pictures are correct, could any of you please help me, are there models missing maybe? The page can be found at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/models.htm Thank you'all for your kind help. Gerard Diepeveen, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 03:16:27 EDT On Sun, 1 Jun 1997 15:45:37 -0700 chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) writes: >I was wondering how far down in the Red zone do other PC'ers go before fueling up >again. Does the petcock allow you to go beyond the red to the point where it >stops when the ignition is turned off?!? When you're on the "red" zone, you've got at least a gallon, depending upon where on the "red" zone the needle is pointing to. I regularly run mine past the red until it's pointing at the "gas pump". Drives my wife nuts, but I've never run out! I have gone to 4.1 gallons on a fill, though. I also keep close track of mileage/tank. I know the limits of the StealthMobile very well by now. I also regularly get 48-54 mpg (saw a post responding to you that said he got 42-43; I don't know why he gets that low. The only time I've done that is when I've done high speed (85+) runs for the whole tank. At 55-75, you should get 48-50 mpg or more, depending upon terrain). I've gotten as high as 59 mpg, but that's rare. OBTW, that's 2-up, too. I usually don't start worrying about gas until I'm at 150-170 miles (depending upon how agressively I've been driving). Nan and I put on 1700 miles over Memorial Day weekend, which was all over Oregon, northern California, and western Idaho. I got 195-220 miles on at least six of the eight tankfuls that I used. I also averaged 52 mpg for the 3 days. I wasn't Ricky Roadracing, but I wasn't Joe Turtle either. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,695 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 09:18:14 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Gerard Diepeveen Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help > I have a testpage on our server with different models of the PC800 but I am > not sure if the descriptions I've put under the pictures are correct, could > any of you please help me, are there models missing maybe? According to the 89-96 microfiche, the US colors are: '89 Pearl Pacific White Ocean Gray Metallic '90 Candy Glory Red Silver Metallic '94-95 Black Dark Gray Metallic '96 Magna Red Karakorum Gray Metallic The above apparently apply to painted parts. The lower plastic parts are described as: '89 Ocean Gray '90-95 Griffin Gray '96 Karakorum Gray Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:46:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Roger Prince cc: Gerard Diepeveen , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help Hmmm....Ocean grey on lower plastics on '89? Mine are more of a gold than grey. Anybody else? Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Roger Prince wrote: > > I have a testpage on our server with different models of the PC800 but I am > > not sure if the descriptions I've put under the pictures are correct, could > > any of you please help me, are there models missing maybe? > > According to the 89-96 microfiche, the US colors are: > > '89 Pearl Pacific White Ocean Gray Metallic > '90 Candy Glory Red Silver Metallic > '94-95 Black Dark Gray Metallic > '96 Magna Red Karakorum Gray Metallic > The above apparently apply to painted parts. > > The lower plastic parts are described as: > '89 Ocean Gray > '90-95 Griffin Gray > '96 Karakorum Gray > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA28954 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:17:26 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help Hi James and Gerard: In a message dated 97-06-03 02:28:30 EDT, James wrote: << You have shown the lower half of the Candy Red model as a darker gray than that on the '89 model. While it looks that way in photos (e.g. the brochure photo at http://www.erols.com/jhyder/pc800/pcbroch8.jpg) I have always been under the impression that they were in fact the same silver/gray. Perhaps someone who has seen or owned both can tell us. (And is it the same as on the '94s and '95?) >> We have an '89 and a '90. The lower-section colors are not the same. The '90 is a silver-gray, but the '89 is what I think they called "Champagne Gold". It is a gold/gray rather than a silver/gray. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:22:26 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Rusty Jackson (Home)" , "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: PC800: Dash for '90 PC Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:15:41 -0400 I have a dash with the speaker cutouts removed if anyone wants it. Also have a pair of Bass speakers that I removed when I sold my radio. The dash from Honda was $90 for $2.00 worth of plastic. Ouch ---------- > From: Rusty Jackson (Home) > To: 'PC 800 Mailing List' > Subject: PC800: Dash for '90 PC > Date: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 1:42 AM > > I posted this a month or two ago, but as of yet, I have been unsuccessful > in locating a replacement dash for my PC. I want a new dash that doesn't > have the speaker cut outs removed, but I don't want to pay the unbelievably > high price that Honda wants for a new one. So, if anyone knows a place > that I may be able to find one of these or if you have a wrecked PC that > you wouldn't mind selling a dash off of, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Rusty > > ====================================== > Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer > Email: > rjackson@wrightstrat.com (work) > rusty@san.rr.com (home) > Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com > Personal Web: http://204.210.52.21 > -------------------------------------- > Wright Strategies > 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 > La Jolla, CA 92037 > 619-551-6808 x124 > ====================================== > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:25:41 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: bb1@pgstumail.pg.cc.md.us Cc: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com, pcn@dsv.nl, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:14:38 +0100 Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help bb1@pgstumail.pg.cc.md.us,Internet writes: >Hmmm....Ocean grey on lower plastics on '89? Mine are more of a gold >than >grey. Anybody else? >Barre' Mine are certainly gold coloured. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 07:49:50 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Garry D. Poff" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings, fellow two-wheeler types... Garry D. Poff wrote: > > My reason for subscribing to the list? My Significant Other is on the uphill side of > her motorcycling learning-curve, looking to move up from a 450 Nighthawk and is an > ardent admirer of the PC800. Tough part is, the only color she likes it in is the > white ('89 only, right?) and so we're shopping. Anyone who can offer tips on where > to find a low-mileage example will be effusively thanked! > > Also, I'm interested in any opinions of the suitablity of the PC for a relative novice > rider, still building basic skills? > > Next weekend I'm riding the Western States 1000 (See the Rose City MC page, > http://www.teleport.com/~rosecmc/ ). Last year I believe I saw about three PC800 > The PC's handling characteristics are great for the just learning motorcyclist. Very polite and predictable and yet capable of surprising agility when called upon. Indeed I have basically just learned to ride on one in that the only previous experience on a motorcycle was at age 18 on a rented bike for one day. The only caveat is that the PC is a fairly heavy bike for persons of limited stature or size. Though there are numerous PC riders out there that fill one or both of those criteria, they have usually learned on a smaller bike and then moved up to the larger, heavier PC after sufficient confidence has been attained. Moving up from a 450 Nighthawk should be an easy transition if she is already confident on a motorcycle. OBTW be prepared for a fanatical devotion to PC's after she rides one. It's happened to most of us. Good Luck! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2615 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:15:07 +0200 (MET DST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Thank you all Thank you all for helping me out, I've got lots of information regarding the color and the models. If there are people on this list who have different colors for there PC's let me know, I want to make also a page with non-standard colors, if so please would you be so kind to send me a picture of it. Thank you. Gerard, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 09:46:21 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Need some help JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > Hi James and Gerard: > > We have an '89 and a '90. The lower-section colors are not the same. The > '90 is a silver-gray, but the '89 is what I think they called "Champagne > Gold". It is a gold/gray rather than a silver/gray. > I sent Gerard some pictures from our group. We have several '89's,'90's, '94's and '96's. You're right about the different colors! We don't have anybody riding with us who has a '97, but I think the colors are the same as the '96. One of the riders in New Jersey, Alan Brick, has an '89 with the blue paint scheme (silver on the bottom). He bought it used and doesn't know if it was re-painted or not, but from the pictures, it looks like a factory job. I'll put some pictures out later. (I still have to scan them!) On a different note, how is the new web site coming for the PC800, and will everybody who wishes, be able to contribute articles and photo's? Phil Lewis So. Cal. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 10:35:41 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Timothy B Macy wrote: > I also regularly get 48-54 mpg (saw a post responding to you that said he > got 42-43; I don't know why he gets that low. The only time I've done > that is when I've done high speed (85+) runs for the whole tank. At > 55-75, you should get 48-50 mpg or more, depending upon terrain). I've > gotten as high as 59 mpg, but that's rare. OBTW, that's 2-up, too. Is Southern California gas inferior, or am I the only one around here getting only 40-45 mpg? If I am, I'm gonna' do a tune up "real" soon. If I'm not, I'm gonna' complain to.......... Who would I complain to, anyway??!! :( Phil Lewis Mission Viejo My '90 is to be known as "DELTA RED" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:26:15 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 11:15:35 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: GAS Mileage <19970603.001511.9422.28.timmacy@juno.com> >Is Southern California gas inferior, or am I the only one around here >getting only 40-45 mpg? If I am, I'm gonna' do a tune up "real" soon. >If I'm not, I'm gonna' complain to.......... Who would I complain to, >anyway??!! :( > I've never gotten better than 40mpg... Usually more like 35... But I do 90% city riding, and I weigh 220lbs. I also wonder about the effect of the tall rifle screen on MPG. John L http://hhd.csun.edu/john -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA25662; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:49:43 -0400 (EDT) To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, timmacy@juno.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question In a message dated 97-06-03 13:38:39 EDT, PILEWIS1@concentric.net (PILEWIS1) writes: << getting only 40-45 mpg? >> I ride quite fast (75 to 85) and frequently two up. Also, I'm about 230lbs+ . I get the same type of mileage (40-45 mpg) but at times I get 50.... Usually I get the better mileage when I ride alone and at 60 to 70 mph... Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Klim, Gary (Exchange)" To: "'pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu'" Cc: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: PC800: GAS Mileage Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:39:16 -0700 I average about 53 mpg with Honda tall windshield. Gary E. Klim MFG. ENG. gklim@harman.com garyklim@snet.net (860)346-0896 Ext. 343 >---------- >From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu[SMTP:pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu] >Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 2:15 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: GAS Mileage > >I've never gotten better than 40mpg... Usually more like 35... But I do 90% >city riding, and I weigh 220lbs. I also wonder about the effect of the >tall rifle screen on MPG. > >John L > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 11:20:27 -0700 From: "Gary J. Kissinger" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Lubrication > > > > > Hi Fellow PC800 People. Got a question regarding lubrication. I have a > > 90 PC 800, love it. I've had many bikes. This is the best. Previously I > > was using Quaker State 20W-50 in the bike. I live in Hawaii. I would > > change the oil and filter every 3000 miles or so, reasonable. With all > > the articals in mgazines about synthetic oils and such I thought I'd try > > Mobil One and maybe not change oil every 6000 miles or maybe even > > longer, as the claims made by the synthetic community is that you can go > > "12 months" on "our Oil".(Maybe this is Golden Spectro's claim). > > My question is; can you expect to run synthetic oils in a PC800 without > > a oil change for say a year, or 6000 miles if the filter is changed out > > every 3000 miles or so? > > I hope this message getsout to you guys out there. > > I am zzeek@gte.net > > Talk to me! Thank You! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:03:52 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Timothy B Macy" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:06:06 -0400 I usually get 50+ mpg unless I am at very high speed travel.I always take less gas in my PC than the bikes that I am traveling with. Isn't the Cal model a little different? Vince ---------- > From: PILEWIS1 > To: Timothy B Macy > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question > Date: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 1:35 PM > > Timothy B Macy wrote: > > > I also regularly get 48-54 mpg (saw a post responding to you that said he > > got 42-43; I don't know why he gets that low. The only time I've done > > that is when I've done high speed (85+) runs for the whole tank. At > > 55-75, you should get 48-50 mpg or more, depending upon terrain). I've > > gotten as high as 59 mpg, but that's rare. OBTW, that's 2-up, too. > > Is Southern California gas inferior, or am I the only one around here > getting only 40-45 mpg? If I am, I'm gonna' do a tune up "real" soon. > If I'm not, I'm gonna' complain to.......... Who would I complain to, > anyway??!! :( > > Phil Lewis > Mission Viejo > > My '90 is to be known as > "DELTA RED" > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ride report for 5/24 to Santa Barbara, CA From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 18:16:51 EDT Kudos to Johan on his Santa Barbara Trip Report! Since my parents had lived there for 15 years and I had visited them many times, I was very familiar with your descriptions of locations and the traffic jams. Sure is a beautiful area, though. Just one suggestion for your next ride if you have the same number of bikes. It seems that everything that I have ever read suggests that a larger group should break into smaller contingents of 4-5 bikes each. 4-5 bikes is far easier to keep track of and moves easier thru traffic. I've ridden in Big and I've ridden in Small...Small is better! Happy Riding, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,695 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:38:14 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Ride report for 5/24 to Santa Barbara, CA Sure > is a beautiful area, though. Completely agree. It get's better as you go north. We enjoyed it. > Just one suggestion for your next ride if you have the same number of > bikes. It seems that everything that I have ever read suggests that a > larger group should break into smaller contingents of 4-5 bikes each. 4-5 > bikes is far easier to keep track of and moves easier thru traffic. I've > ridden in Big and I've ridden in Small...Small is better! Our experience was that in traffic, you don't have much choice. The cagers seem to feel that any group larger than 5 is an offense against nature that must be immediately eliminated by cutting in. A large part of our trip was spent re-grouping after our formation was broken. Alan > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: STAReview Bikes From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 20:07:31 EDT Did anyone list the PCs for sale in the latest (May, 1997) issue of the STAReview? I didn't see it, so I'll do it... #1 1989; 36K. Original owner. Progressive Suspension fork springs, carbs rejetted, will deliver within 500 miles if you pay gas. $3,300. (This one's Cory's). (937) 436-2860 and leave message. #2 1990; 800 miles (Wow!). Garaged. $5,000. Bob Busch (908) 735-8600 (NJ) #3 1990; 38K. Hondaline backrest, interior trunk lights. $3,900 OBO. Sam Henry (717) 626-1095, or 103076.2631@compuserve.com There's also a guy selling Ultima drivers back rest, Hondaline passenger backrest, Ultima passenger backrest, Givi luggage rack (rack only), stock windshield, left rear crash bar cover, turn signals, right mirror attachments and housing for PC. Also selling Chase Harper Aeropac II tank bag, CB for bag and fiberglass antenna. Call Sam Henry, same info as #3 bike above. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,700 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 18:32:19 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question PILEWIS1 wrote: > > Is Southern California gas inferior, or am I the only one around here > getting only 40-45 mpg? If I am, I'm gonna' do a tune up "real" soon. > If I'm not, I'm gonna' complain to.......... Who would I complain to, > anyway??!! :( > Phil, I think Vince hit it on the noggin when he said that the California model is different. I have never been able to get the mileage in either of my PC's above 48mpg and most of the time its 43-44mpg. For a long time there I thought people were just yanking my chain with these claims of 50+mpg but I think now it might be the emissions equipment and settings in the California models. I think we finally found something bad about living in Southern California. I can live with that. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2615 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 19:36:42 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > I think we finally found something > bad about living in Southern California. I can live with that. I guess you're right Steve! "Tis a Small Price to Pay", of course it seems like the price goes up every week!! ;) -- Phil Lewis So-Cal '90 PC "Delta Red" Enjoying The Ride!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 23:10:03 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: PC800 Tail-Light needed... To: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr Hey y'all Joannie Penick of Northern KY aksed me to post a request.. she is in need of a tail-light for the PC800.. =2Eas some of you know Joannie has sold/selling her 2 PC800's for a ST110= 0 and still has a HD Road-king up for sale... =2E if anyone out there has any input please email me or look her up in t= he HSTA Blue Book. = FiremanJoe Cincinnati, OHIO HSTA- '90- PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 23:13:29 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question ** Reply to note from "Stephen A. Churchill" Tue, 03 Jun 1997 18:32:19 -0700 > Phil, I think Vince hit it on the noggin when he said that the California > model is different. I have never been able to get the mileage in either of > my PC's above 48mpg and most of the time its 43-44mpg. For a long time > there I thought people were just yanking my chain with these claims of > 50+mpg but I think now it might be the emissions equipment and settings in > the California models. I think we finally found something bad about living > in Southern California. I can live with that. But see my comments in a recent post about my mileage dropping to 43-44. I don't live in CA and don't have a CA model. (Yes, I'm sure.) --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CliffA@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA05264; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 01:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 01:25:01 -0400 (EDT) To: schrchll@inetworld.net, PILEWIS1@concentric.net cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question I agree that the California models must be different as I have never approached the kind of mileage some of the group is reporting. I normally get around 42 to 45 mpg. I have gone over 50 mpg on a few rare occasions (freeway driving at 60 mph with no headwinds) but still cannot complain since my other vehicles '88 RX-7 and '92 Volvo 740 don't come close in mileage or fun! By the way, I have a stock '94 PC but hope to soon add a Rifle shield and Corbin seat. Cliff Alexander Redlands, CA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: PC800: Looking for a PC To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:52:38 +0800 (HKT) Hi listers! This is post for a rider who is not on list - but I pretty sure he'll join the list soon. He just want a PC in good condition, no year or color preferences, in California Bay Area. He's in Hong Kong now but will take up a new job in California Bay Area by early of July. Reponses please direct to Marcus Kay at mskay@hkucs.org, thanks! -- ************************************************************************* * Philips Wong, executive committee member, Safe Rider (HK) Assn. * * * * VR2XVI <-- HAM '95 GL1500SE Candy Red <-- the flooded bike * * PCA420 <-- Royal HK '84 GL1200A 2 tone beige <-- the chromed bike * * Aux Police '90 PC800 Candy Red <-- My little Wing * * GWRRA <-- 101177 CBX750 Police Edition <-- Muscle! * * * * Commissioner Maxwell, Hong Kong Police, 1959 : * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant! " * * * ************************************************************************* * Will work for gas and chrome, I have 2 Wings, and a baby Wing at home * ************************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:45:43 +0000 From: Gary Wilson To: pacific coast list Subject: PC800: digest version i am curious if there is a digest version of the list. it didn't indicate so in the commands. i just don't have the time to go through 30 msg per day so i had to drop off the list. i did enjoy it, though. since i am not on the list, please email the answer. thanks. BTW, my 89 pc has gotten referred to as "nice scooter" also. they just don't have a clue to how nice it really is. gary. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Julie Moore To: "'PC800list'" Subject: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 17:58:18 +0100 >> I have a 1990 PC800 and I would like to know about any aftermarket = rear suspension available.<< I don't know whether they are available in the USA but Fournelles do a = pair of air shocks for approx $330 that you don't have to modify the = trunk to fit like some aftermarket shocks. Another advantage is that = both sides are then adjustable easily. Julie '90 PC800 (Japanese Import to UK) with Bagster tank cover and tankbag, = Givi rack and topbox -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:00:01 +0200 (MET DST) To: Julie Moore , "'PC800list'" From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. At 17:58 04-06-97 +0100, Julie Moore wrote: > >>> I have a 1990 PC800 and I would like to know about any aftermarket rear >>> suspension available. I don't know if the Koni's are for sale in the States, but this is what I have for you (it comes from the FAQ pages on our site, PCN): Front: White Power, type: ? (will soon inform you on types) Ask you local dealer for more information and prices about White Power Rear: Koni, type: 7610 With Koni's comes better adjustment and improved roadstabillity Ask your local dealer to replace your stock suspension for Koni's, no trunk modification is needed and can be placed in 30 minutes, you only need to remove the trunk (8 bolts and a connector) and the trunk can be removed. If have both on my PC and I love them, they are great Gerard Diepeveen, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: , , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:29:54 -0700 I ride out of Modesto, Ca. My '90 PC averages 53 mph on none freeway trips. I tend to ride on the mildly aggressive side. When I took a trip over the Sierras with a Goldwing and a Vulcan who didn't believe in passing, I filled up my tank after going 223 miles (I know, it's pretty stupid to push it that far). My highest mileage was 70 mpg which I got coming home from high in the mountains and back down to the valley where I live (I deliberately was trying to set s personal mileage record). I weigh 170 lbs, I travel solo, but still rarely get under 50 mpg. Although I bought my PC second hand, it was originally sold in Madera Ca. I can't agree from my experience that the California models are different. Spencer ---------- > From: CliffA@aol.com > To: schrchll@inetworld.net; PILEWIS1@concentric.net > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question > Date: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 10:25 PM > > I agree that the California models must be different as I have never > approached the kind of mileage some of the group is reporting. I normally > get around 42 to 45 mpg. I have gone over 50 mpg on a few rare occasions > (freeway driving at 60 mph with no headwinds) but still cannot complain since > my other vehicles '88 RX-7 and '92 Volvo 740 don't come close in mileage or > fun! > > By the way, I have a stock '94 PC but hope to soon add a Rifle shield and > Corbin seat. > > Cliff Alexander > Redlands, CA > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:15:30 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. At 05:58 PM 6/4/97 +0100, you wrote: >I don't know whether they are available in the USA but Fournelles do a pair of air shocks for approx $330 that you don't have to modify the trunk to fit like some aftermarket shocks. Another advantage is that both sides are then adjustable easily. Julie, Can you provide more detail on both the shocks and the Bagster? I have been considering a Bagster for my PC but have yet to find a price advertised anywhere. Thanks! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:24:38 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. At 08:00 PM 6/4/97 +0200, Gerard Diepeveen wrote: >I don't know if the Koni's are for sale in the States, but this is what I >have for you (it comes from the FAQ pages on our site, PCN): Do you know if they have fixed the problem with the bushing dimensions? I recall some people from the list installed them with some difficulty. >Front: White Power, type: ? (will soon inform you on types) Her in the US Progressive Suspension springs are the most popular. I have a set that I bought from a VFR owner (same springs) but have yet to install them. Thanks. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:36:58 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: New arrival! At 02:08 PM 6/4/97 -0400, Roger Prince wrote: Ha! I finally got my PC back! >Are you getting new shocks or new bushings? Or both? Any warranty >work? I just got new tires on my '95 this morning in prep for the STAR >trip and the rubber on the lower left bushing is coming out the outside >while the eye is up against the mount toward the inside. I was unhappy >to hear the bushing are available separately. I had hope for one new >shock for free. $156 per each assy. Here is more or less they way it went: Honda Dealer tech.: "I talked to an area rep. and he said I should call this other guy to get an answer on the warranty bit." Area rep 1: "The bushings are certainly a wear item and I don't believe they are covered under warranty, but it is not my call. Talk to (Area Rep. 2)." Area Rep. 2:" Well, the bike does have quite few miles on it (erroneusly reported as 28k when it only has 20.8K) but it is a street bike, and darn it, it is a HONDA. We'll pay for the whole thing." End of story. I picked it up yesterday after 2.5 weeks of captivity. Suspension feel is much tighter, quieter too. Parts replaced were: lower left shock mount bolt, all four shock absorber bushings (just the bushings). Total parts about $35.00 Total labor about $150.00 Out of my pocket: zero, if you don't count the $400 I spent on the extended warranty 5 years ago. Apparently the bushings are a problem. The mechanic told me that he had to replace the ones on his Magna at 30k miles. Anyone know of a place to get urethane ones? Time to go riding! Yesssss! Juan >Roger > >ps K177s sure turn slow after rear ML2 and front 120/70-17 ME33 CompK >front. Surprised me. > > "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:53:50 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. Hello Gerard! At 10:41 PM 6/4/97 +0200, you wrote: >He Juan, what is a Bagster? >I did'nt found it in any dictionary, please explain it to a Dutchman. It is (I believe) made in Italy. It is a form-fitted tank cover similar to the BMW item. It can be ordered color matched to your bike or in a contrasting color. It also has four attachment points to which you can mount a matching tank bag, which is secured by four quick release clips. No straps required. And, it is available for the PC! I will try to get a picture sent to you so you can post it on the PCN homepage. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:51:02, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Digest Version Needed >...digest version of the list. (is needed) ... >....just don't have the time to go through >.. 30 msg per day so i had to drop off the list. Are there other subscribers that would go for the digest version? Should we take a vote?? It may be my having a slower modem plus not enough time to wait for the slow mail processor, but is there any way to get a "digest" as HSTA has. Maybe they (HSTA list) could provide the code, if that's the problem. - or what is the problem to get a digest option. thanks for your help ... again.. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Digest Version Needed From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 17:42:06 EDT >>Are there other subscribers that would go for the >>digest version? Should we take a vote?? Gordon, Let's remember that our list administrator generously provides this service to all of us free of cost. He has already invested his time and money in getting and keeping it running. It is not a democracy. If the "majordomo" software package has an optional digest upgrade, it might be a good idea if all of us contributed toward it's purchase. Mike Larson mike.larson@juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Digest Version Needed From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 04 Jun 1997 17:39:24 -0500 Lines: 26 >>>>> "ML" == Mike Larson writes: ML> Let's remember that our list administrator generously provides this ML> service to all of us free of cost. Thanks for keeping that in mind. No, it isn't a democracy. You can vote all you want, but unless someone knows how to add a few extra hours to the day, it just isn't going to happen. Not right now at least. ML> He has already invested his time and money in getting and keeping it ML> running. Actually just my time. The University kindly (or without its knowledge) donates spare CPU cycles. I do real research on the subject of mailing lists and efficient mail delivery, so it does have some benefit... ML> If the "majordomo" software package has an optional digest upgrade, it ML> might be a good idea if all of us contributed toward it's purchase. Well, considering that 1) Majordomo is free software and 2) that I'm the primary developer, there's no need for money to become involved. I recently came upon some additions to the software to make it work a bit more like I think it should work, so a digest isn't completely out of the question, but I just don't have the time to work on it right now. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: NVXL62A@prodigy.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Digest Version Needed From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 20:36:11 EDT You know I am descended from a tribe of people known for its impatience, but I have stuck with it and the volume of messages can be quickly dealt with. I used to hate all the mail I got on it. Now I just read the first sentence or two and if it is of no interest, quick delete, click and it is gone. Takes me about five to ten minutes to run thru all that.. If I didn't feel that i had to run my yap so much I'd probably be done with it even more quickly. Now that I am used to it it is ok. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Dunlop vs. Metzlers.... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 21:18:57 EDT I know that this has been the subject of (almost!) as many threads as Rifle vs. Hondaline windshields! But I just wanted to share something... I've been on Dunlops since Day One, as most of you know. When I was in Florida in February I had to replace my rear tire, but my front tire had plenty of tread left. Over Memorial Day weekend, when Nan and I did our little jaunt all over the Northwest, I noted (when we were 400 miles from home) that my front tire had finally hit the wear bars. After we got back, I had a chat with Dave Gross, who had posted his Dunlops for sale 'cause he was going back to Metzlers. Dave said something that stuck with me--he said "It seems like Dunlops are better touring tires and Metzlers are better sport tires on the PC." I think he hit it squarely. Even though I've been known to Ricky Roadrace through my share of canyon squibblies, over the past few months I've been almost exclusively in the Touring Mode (over 14,000 miles since January 1st, in fact). After I read Dave's post, I pulled out my last invoice for a front tire...and I was astounded! I had put almost 20,000 miles on the front tire before it hit the wear bars! In fact, I've put on over 9,100 miles on the rear tire since Florida and it looks almost new. Dave, me boy, I think you've got a point there...! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,700 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 22:06:46 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. Koni pulled the PC version of the shocks from the US market. They couldn't get it right but Europe seems to. Bryce, how are yours working? Roger Juan A. Goula wrote: > > At 08:00 PM 6/4/97 +0200, Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > >I don't know if the Koni's are for sale in the States, but this is what I > >have for you (it comes from the FAQ pages on our site, PCN): > > Do you know if they have fixed the problem with the bushing dimensions? > I recall some people from the list installed them with some difficulty. > > >Front: White Power, type: ? (will soon inform you on types) > Her in the US Progressive Suspension springs are the most popular. I have a > set that I bought from a VFR owner (same springs) but have yet to install them. > Thanks. > > Juan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 02:31:36 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 06:31:38 +0000 From: BJ Strass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Windshield option soon? Yesterday I spoke to Craig (I think that was his name) at Clearview Shields in CO. They make a super nice windshield for the ST1100 that looks much nicer than the Honda or the Rifle. It is very similar to the shield on my old 85 BMW K100 RT which was great. Anyway I pressed for a similar one for the PC. He stated they hoped to have one ready in about a month but realisticly it would be 2-3 months. I mentioned the email list and he stated he would like to hear from avid PC owners to see what they want. He also mentioned the possibility of other accessories specifically for the PC. They are not on the net so call them and show support for our PC's at 1 800 798 6089 or snail mail at P.O. Box 747, Bailey CO. 80412. They have a small ad in Motorcyclist mag if you want to see their ST1100 shield. BJ Strass Sacramento, CA --------------------- '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) (if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) --------------------- "Indecision may or may not be my problem!" -Jimmy Buffet -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com'" , "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:51:59 -0700 I feel they've really helped to improve the stability of the bike. The rear now feels solid and planted, especially on the rough stuff. The suspension isn't on par with my VFR but it's an improvement nonetheless. No experience with passenger yet though - I haven't had a riding partner in awhile now. I still haven't worked out a method to adjust the preload. It requires a spanner wrench which won't fit due to lack of clearance with the trunk. I thinking I may have to disassemble the shocks and put the stock preload adjuster on each side. The parts for it a surprisingly cheap. I drilled holes in the trunk to access the dampening adjusters at the top of each shock and plugged the holes with rubber corks. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "TruST" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:50:48 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digest Version Needed Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "ML" == Mike Larson writes: > > ML> Let's remember that our list administrator generously provides this > ML> service to all of us free of cost. > > Thanks for keeping that in mind. No, it isn't a democracy. You can vote > all you want, but unless someone knows how to add a few extra hours to the > day, it just isn't going to happen. Not right now at least. > > ML> He has already invested his time and money in getting and keeping it > ML> running. > > Actually just my time. The University kindly (or without its knowledge) > donates spare CPU cycles. I do real research on the subject of mailing > lists and efficient mail delivery, so it does have some benefit... > > ML> If the "majordomo" software package has an optional digest upgrade, it > ML> might be a good idea if all of us contributed toward it's purchase. > > Well, considering that 1) Majordomo is free software and 2) that I'm the > primary developer, there's no need for money to become involved. I > recently came upon some additions to the software to make it work a bit > more like I think it should work, so a digest isn't completely out of the > question, but I just don't have the time to work on it right now. > Jason, FWIW I for one thank you for contributing your time and efforts into creating and maintaining this list. I have found it both useful and entertaining. Kudos to you. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2646 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 05:08:27 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Rocky E Rocheux CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Digest Version Needed Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > You know I am descended from a tribe of people known for its impatience, > but I have stuck with it and the volume of messages can be quickly dealt > with. I used to hate all the mail I got on it. Now I just read the > first sentence or two and if it is of no interest, quick delete, click > and it is gone. Takes me about five to ten minutes to run thru all > that.. If I didn't feel that i had to run my yap so much I'd probably > be done with it even more quickly. Now that I am used to it it is ok. I have a similar system; I just delete any messages that have a "from" box that lists rocheux@juno.com without bothering to read them. Saves LOTS of time. ;) Juuust kidiiing... BTW isn't "Rocky Rocheux" redundant? Why not "Peter Rocheux" instead? P.S. This is meant in good humor. Please accept it as so. Too often on the net offense can be taken for comments written as a joke and read as serious. I enjoy word play and I couldn't pass up the opportunity. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2646 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 05:18:16 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: BJ Strass CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield option soon? BJ Strass wrote: > --------------------- > '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) > (if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) > --------------------- I think you're confusing two classic films in your reference: "The Caine Mutiny" starring Humphry Bogart and "Citizen Kane" starring Orson Wells. The latter is of course the film that "Rosebud" refers to. Of course also it just may be a typo. NBD (no big deal) BTW, they're both great films. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2646 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA23926; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:20:14 -0400 (EDT) To: schrchll@inetworld.net, tibbs@hpc.uh.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Digest Version Needed In a message dated 6/5/97 9:02:11 AM EST, schrchll@INETWORLD.NET (Stephen A. Churchill) writes: << Jason, FWIW I for one thank you for contributing your time and efforts into creating and maintaining this list. I have found it both useful and entertaining. Kudos to you. -- >> Yeah, what he said..... Jason (the King, da' Man) will give us the digest when he thinks we're ready damn it so quit whining about it. : ) Thanks for the work J Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:34:02 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield option soon? Stephen Churchill wrote: > BJ Strass wrote: > > --------------------- > > '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) > > (if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) > > --------------------- > > I think you're confusing two classic films in your reference: "The Caine > Mutiny" starring Humphry Bogart and "Citizen Kane" starring Orson Wells. > The latter is of course the film that "Rosebud" refers to. Of course also > it just may be a typo. NBD (no big deal) BTW, they're both great films. -- No, no, Steve. You've got it all wrong. BJ is referring to actor Michael Caine, who in his spare time races a candy red bobsled named "Rosebud." (Believe that, and I have a bridge you might be interested in leasing from me.) --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:37:33 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Mike Harness Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot Dear PC800 Group, I have been off the listserv for a couple of months, but have signed back on to see if anyone plans to attend the Honda Hoot in Asheville, N.C. this month. I plan on being there, and if others will be there, perhaps we can meet as a group, and maybe take a ride together, or whatever. -Mike Harness '95 w/7400mi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Mike Harness cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Mike and all other attending, I will be at the hoot and would be happy to meet any others of you that will be there... let me know where and when. Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Mike Harness wrote: > Dear PC800 Group, I have been off the listserv for a couple of months, but > have signed back on to see if anyone plans to attend the Honda Hoot in > Asheville, N.C. this month. I plan on being there, and if others will be > there, perhaps we can meet as a group, and maybe take a ride together, or > whatever. -Mike Harness '95 w/7400mi > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 12:02:24 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Kriss Industries Hello folks. I was wondering if anyone on this list has the Amp-U-Tron from Kriss Industries? It is a Digital meter that provides Ammeter, Voltmeter and Temperature readings. The price is a bit steep, at about $200, but it does seem to be a professional quality instrument that would provide greater accuracy than an analog instrument. Also, since it is all in one small unit, installation would be easier. I would be curious if members of this list currently (no pun intended!) have any of the Kriss products, and if they would give that product the "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" . Bye for now... fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Expensive Plastic!!! Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:01:05 -0700 Well, I finally found a dash at a salvage yard and bought it. It was still $100 even from there, but that is better than the $180 bucks the Honda dealer here said they wanted for a new one. Unbelievable how we get ripped off for things we can't get somewhere else. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com (work) rusty@san.rr.com (home) Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com Personal Web: http://204.210.55.17 -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Kriss Industries Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:39:36 -0700 I recently purchased the Amp-U-Tron, the 4way flashers, and the brake light flasher dealy-my-bob for my ST1100. I haven't mounted them yet but my project should be finished in about 2 months. I'll know more when I finish. At first inspection, all the devices are well sealed from the weather, appear to have good documentation, and all the mounting hardware. The Amp-U-Tron is clearly intended for Gold Wing use as it fits perfectly where they describe. This perfect mount the GL1500 makes for a somewhat awkward mount for other bikes. It doesn't mount flush and the mounting posts underneath are too low for most simple dash cutouts (panels too thin). Spacers would need to be created to sit between the mounting posts of the Amp-U-Tron and the dash cutout (about an inch). With careful thinking and imagination it can be overcome but you'll need to ponder it for a little while. Best place to mount this on a PC is probably the left pocket cover or somewhere else in the general vicinity. Mounting it to the speaker cutouts would produce the wrong viewing angle in my opinion. The flasher components are small and simple. All the wires needed on the Pacific Coast are located along the left side just in front of the trunk near the hinge. Tap into the taillight wiring harness there and used double-sided tape to mount the small control boxes to the sidewall of the trunk (where it faces forward). My electronics buddy thinks they are a tad overpriced but they are of good quality and smartly engineered. Far better than the cheapo crap on the market. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Julie Moore To: "'Juan A. Goula'" Cc: "'PC800list'" Subject: RE: FW: PC800: PC800 rear suspension. Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 22:45:09 +0100 >> Can you provide more detail on both the shocks and the Bagster? I = have been considering a Bagster for my PC but have yet to find a price = advertised anywhere. Thanks! << Fournelles are manufactured in France and are distributed in the UK by = M.R.Hollands (who distribute Progressive Suspension and used to = distribute S&W air suspension). Bagster is a French tankbag manufacturer, they also make soft panniers = and handlebar mits similar to Vetter Hippo Hands (and are the only = company we know of that does a version that copes with hydraulic = reservoirs on both ends of the bars). In the UK they have been marketed = for over 15 years under the name Baglux. We have the tank covers on = several bikes (PC800, GL1100 and GS850), the covers aren't cheap, the = one for the PC cost approx $112 and there is a choice of about 8 = different tankbags that will fit the tank cover. We use a double bag = that can be unzipped and used as two seperate different sized bags that = cost about $60 about 14years ago and is still in good condition. Julie '90 PC800 (Japanese Import to UK) with Bagster tank cover and tankbag, = Givi rack and topbox -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 15:36:03 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 177s for sale yup...I really think I've narrowed down the differences in between the Dunlops and Metzlers. It's mainly a 'feel' thing..but I like the ML2's for 'sportier' riding, the the 177's for straight ahead touring... be that as it may, I have a set of 177's will less than 1000 miles on em. Had to get the ML's...so....someone make me an offer. Will deliver from Seattle to Portland. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: That ole gas smell Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:02:58 -0500 Hello All, Developed a gas smell after the bike was turned off. Checked the archives, the suspected cause (thanks to Kent Polk) was the petcock valve. Had the "tobacco" stains on the petcock valve. Replaced the valve ($$ouch$$). No more gas smell in the garage. Took the valve apart and looked for the pin holes in the valve. Couldn't find any. Moved the valve up and down a few times, then noticed the asymmetrical form that the edge of the lip would assume when in free space. Much like the flapper on a stool when it starts to wear and allows water to leak through. Looks like the integrity of the valves exterior lip had degraded to the point that it allowed gas to slowly leak around the lip. Michael '90 PC800 "escapn" P.S. Thanks for all of the responses about the plates. That was fun reading! : ^ ) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 21:53:56 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: That ole gas smell Michael "escapn" wrote : > Much like the flapper on a stool when it starts >to wear and allows water to leak through. Uh...excuse me? Do we know each other well enough to discuss the looseness of our flappers? Is this 'leaking' allowing water to leak through when you sit in a bathtub or a pool? Are we talking abouyt the same thing here? I sure hope not! fsl p.s. Note to any uptight people on this list who may take this the wrong way. This is meant as a humorous response ! Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Not-Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:58:45 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Hello there fellow PC'ers. Well....I'm pretty bummed out... I was riding home this afternoon, and started to notice that I was having trouble shifting occasionally. The shifter seemed to be very "clunky". Not 5 minutes later, while cruising at about 50 in 5th, the PC started to hesitate. I glanced over the gauges, and it showed a half tank of gas, temp reading normal. Then it stalled. No amount of coaxing was going to bring it back. I verified that it had oil, gas, and coolant. It still wouldn't start. When I gave it full choke, it ran for about 20 seconds, but would die as soon as I gave it any throttle. It really felt like fuel starvation. I looked for the fuse for the fuel pump, but could not find it. Anyhow..I didn't want to leave it there for the night, so I called my local Honda dealer who came and picked it up. He is booked solid right now, until June 18th. Argh!!!!! Has anyone here ever had the same type of experience? Is there a known problem for this? Help!!!! thanks to one and all for any insight. fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 06:10:45 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > It really felt like fuel starvation. I looked for > the fuse for the fuel pump, but could not find it. Perhaps it's something as simple as a fuel filter at the end of its' useful life. I had to replace the filter in my truck after only 20K miles as a result of contaminated gas. (Sediment) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 18:54:38 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: PC800: BEEMER ForSale... Pls Forward? A friend's selling his dual sport... please forward to those who may be interested>? Beemer list???? Thanks. Bill ForSale: 1991 BMW R1100GS, 27K miles, Parabellum W/S, Reynolds backrest, heated grips, hand guards, cylinder guards, Hepko-Becker aluminum panniers, oil cooler, progressive fork springs, Dealer Maintained. $5475.00 obo Bike's in Maine +/- 130 mile from the Boston area... reply to: Tim @ tbeals@mint.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA01387 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:02:09 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Expensive Plastic!!! Hi Rusty: In a message dated 97-06-05 23:41:25 EDT, you write: << Unbelievable how we get ripped off for things we can't get somewhere else. >> Amen! But Honda isn't the only one in that particular style of larceny. Case in point: Yesterday, I was driving my minivan back from having a tire repaired when I noticed an unusual rattle coming from the rear of the beast. Invistigation revealed that the rear-door latch mechanism had come loose. Two of the three screws that hold it in place were loose, and one was missing entirely. (Hmmm. I just recently had them do the recall "fix" for an alleged problem with the latch mechanism. Seems like shoddy work is also on the list of difficulties these days). Since I was only a block or so from the dealer, I stopped in to get a replacement for the missing screw (and grumble about the shoddy work). The parts guy skillfully finds the correct screw on his computerized microfiche machine, but alas they are out of stock and would have to be ordered. Then he announced the price: $3.09 (plus tax)! I told him I didn't need a box of them; all I needed was one. He said that price was for just one. $3.09 (plus tax) for a 1/2 x 8 sheetmetal screw? They have got to think we are all a bunch of bozos or something. Well, I not-so-politely declined, went home, found a screw that would do the job, and put it in. Too bad you can't do that with plastic parts; huh? (Speaking of plastic parts, Chrysler also wants $8 for a little plastic plug that covers the wheel-hub nut. No big problem except that these little suckers are poorly designed and fall out with maddening frequency) Enough grmbling for now. Thanks for the sympathetic ear. I feel much better now. :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA01890 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:02:16 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Hi Francois: In a message dated 97-06-06 06:09:00 EDT, you write: << I gave it full choke, it ran for about 20 seconds, but would die as soon as I gave it any throttle. It really felt like fuel starvation. I looked for the fuse for the fuel pump, but could not find it. >> The fuse for the fuel pump is also the fuse for the ignition circuit; so, if it ran at all, it wasn't the fuse. However, it could be fuel-pump failure, I suppose. Could also be a leak in the vacuum line to the fuel valve. It could also be contaminated fuel. Had you filled up recently at an unfamiliar place. Keep us posted on what you find out. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA10272 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:14:57 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 Bagster Products Hi Julie: In a message dated 97-06-06 08:51:33 EDT, you wrote: << Bagster is a French tankbag manufacturer, they also make soft panniers and handlebar mits similar to Vetter Hippo Hands (and are the only company we know of that does a version that copes with hydraulic reservoirs on both ends of the bars). >> Strange that you should mention Hippo Hands just now. Last weekend, I was prowling around in my garage looking for something else when I came across my old set of Hippo Hands. Just for fun, I decided to see how they would work on the PC. They work just fine! I won't be needing them until next winter, but it's nice to know that they will be available when the time comes. They look wierd, but they really make riding in the winter a lot more pleasant. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 06:47:48 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! --------------3F181C08672B Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > I gave it full choke, it ran for about 20 seconds, but would die as soon as > I gave it any throttle. It really felt like fuel starvation. I looked for > the fuse for the fuel pump, but could not find it. > Considering the history of problems this bike has with the petcock valve diaphragm, that would seem a likely suspect. The purpose of the valve is to shut off fuel flow from the tank to the carbs when the engine is off. Engine vacuum opens it to allow fuel to flow. If the valve is stuck, the diaphragm ruptured or there is a loss of vacuum to the valve, fuel won't get to the carbs. All the reports I've seen to date involve leaking, but given the history as a problem part, it seems a good place to start. Alan --------------3F181C08672B +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------3F181C08672B-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: That ole gas smell From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 11:01:12 EDT According to Dr. Gabe Mirkin on his nationwide radio talk show, that portion of the anatomy does not take on water when submerged in same. Why is a MAN asking that? :):):):):): On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 21:53:56 -0400 Francois Saint Laurent writes: >Michael "escapn" wrote : > > >> Much like the flapper on a stool when it starts >>to wear and allows water to leak through. > >Uh...excuse me? Do we know each other well enough to discuss the >looseness >of our flappers? Is this 'leaking' allowing water to leak through when >you >sit in a bathtub or a pool? Are we talking abouyt the same thing >here? I >sure hope not! > > >fsl > >p.s. Note to any uptight people on this list who may take this the >wrong >way. This is meant as a humorous response ! > > > >Francois Saint Laurent >Ottawa, Canada > >'95 PC800 >Not-Waltzing Matilda > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: That ole gas smell From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 11:01:12 EDT HELP I am just starting to smell gas when I turn off bike but I think it is the engine heat and it disappears after the bike is cooled down. I opened the gas cap and a lot of air escaped. Perhaps it is just some air escaping from the tank. This is a 96 with only about 4000 miles. What do you think? (Thank you) On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:02:58 -0500 "Michael S. Brown" writes: >Hello All, > >Developed a gas smell after the bike was turned off. Checked the >archives, >the suspected cause (thanks to Kent Polk) was the petcock valve. Had >the >"tobacco" stains on the petcock valve. Replaced the valve ($$ouch$$). > No >more gas smell in the garage. Took the valve apart and looked for the >pin >holes in the valve. Couldn't find any. Moved the valve up and down a >few >times, then noticed the asymmetrical form that the edge of the lip >would >assume when in free space. Much like the flapper on a stool when it >starts >to wear and allows water to leak through. Looks like the integrity of >the >valves exterior lip had degraded to the point that it allowed gas to >slowly >leak around the lip. > >Michael '90 PC800 "escapn" > >P.S. Thanks for all of the responses about the plates. That was fun >reading! : ^ ) > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 08:08:44 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: WetLeather , pc800 Subject: PC800: Genuine moto content The odometer crossed over 50,000 on the way home yesterday. I picked it up with 18k in September 1994. Not bad for a guy with a full time job and a no chance for more than a week's vacation at a time.... Its sunny. I have to go to work. -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA '90 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:18:18 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: James Hyder CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield option soon? James Hyder wrote: > > Stephen Churchill wrote: > > > BJ Strass wrote: > > > --------------------- > > > '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) > > > (if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) > > > --------------------- > > > > I think you're confusing two classic films in your reference: "The Caine > > Mutiny" starring Humphry Bogart and "Citizen Kane" starring Orson Wells. > > The latter is of course the film that "Rosebud" refers to. Of course also > > it just may be a typo. NBD (no big deal) BTW, they're both great films. -- > > No, no, Steve. You've got it all wrong. BJ is referring to actor Michael > Caine, who in his spare time races a candy red bobsled named "Rosebud." > > (Believe that, and I have a bridge you might be interested in leasing from > me.) > > --James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > I won't lease the bridge but I may buy it if it's the right price. ;) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2665 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:21:45 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Industries Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > > Hello folks. > > I was wondering if anyone on this list has the Amp-U-Tron from Kriss > Industries? It is a Digital meter that provides Ammeter, Voltmeter and > Temperature readings. The price is a bit steep, at about $200, but it does > seem to be a professional quality instrument that would provide greater > accuracy than an analog instrument. Also, since it is all in one small > unit, installation would be easier. > > I would be curious if members of this list currently (no pun intended!) > have any of the Kriss products, and if they would give that product the > "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" . > > Bye for now... > > fsl > > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > > '95 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda My experience is that the Kriss products are top notch quality. I have the headlight modulator. However, I think the Amp-U-Tron though being one complete unit, is designed for the Goldwing to fit into a specific spot on the "tank". Check it out. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2665 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:52:18 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: slgross@halcyon.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Genuine moto content Steve Gross wrote: > > The odometer crossed over 50,000 on the way home yesterday. I picked it > up with 18k in September 1994. Not bad for a guy with a full time job > and a no chance for more than a week's vacation at a time.... > > Its sunny. I have to go to work. I guess you only stop for gas. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2665 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:44:20 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot Hey guys. Exactly when and where is the Honda Hoot? Is there a Web page or some other online info about it? --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:47:47 -0800 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, fsl@borgconsulting.com (Francois Saint Laurent) Subject: Re: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Date: 06 Jun 97 07:54:56 KDT I experienced the same thing two summers ago...was riding around when my PC started to hesitate and sputter. I pulled into a parking lot and got it started once again, but a couple of miles down the road it quit and I couldn't get it to start, period. Fortunately I was about a 1/4 mile from my Honda dealer so I pushed it to their shop and called the mechanic the next day. Turned out it was a faulty fuel pump and it had to be replaced. Hope this helps... Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Author: fsl@borgconsulting.com (Francois Saint Laurent) at CC2MHS1 Date: 6/5/97 5:58 PM Hello there fellow PC'ers. Well....I'm pretty bummed out... I was riding home this afternoon, and started to notice that I was having trouble shifting occasionally. The shifter seemed to be very "clunky". Not 5 minutes later, while cruising at about 50 in 5th, the PC started to hesitate. I glanced over the gauges, and it showed a half tank of gas, temp reading normal. Then it stalled. No amount of coaxing was going to bring it back. I verified that it had oil, gas, and coolant. It still wouldn't start. When I gave it full choke, it ran for about 20 seconds, but would die as soon as I gave it any throttle. It really felt like fuel starvation. I looked for the fuse for the fuel pump, but could not find it. Anyhow..I didn't want to leave it there for the night, so I called my local Honda dealer who came and picked it up. He is booked solid right now, until June 18th. Argh!!!!! Has anyone here ever had the same type of experience? Is there a known problem for this? Help!!!! thanks to one and all for any insight. fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 14:57:46 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800: MOTORWORLD ONLINE News - 2/11/97 --------------374B38F829F6 http://www.motorworld.com/news/news2_97/hoot.html --------------374B38F829F6 Content-Base: "http://www.motorworld.com/news/news2_9 7/hoot.html" MOTORWORLD ONLINE News - 2/11/97

1997 Honda Hoot Rally Names Event Grand Marshal

The 1997 Honda Hoot Rally has named famous motorcycle racing champion, Bubba Shobert, as Grand Marshal of the event. Bubba achieved racing stardom, winning three AMA Grand National Championships ('85-'87) and four Camel-Pro Championships ('85-'88) in dirt track, as well as a road racing title in the AMA Superbike Series of 1988. The versatile and personable Shobert will be on hand to kick off the event and meet and talk to motorcycle enthusiasts during the Hoot June 17 -21. in Asheville, North Carolina.

The 1997 Honda Hoot is shaping up to be one of the best rallies of the year, with an expanded vendor show in the air-conditioned Asheville Civic Center and lots of parties. One of the most popular activities at the Hoot will be the motorcycle demo rides by Buell, Honda, Triumph and Yamaha. Honda will introduce three new motorcycle models for their first demos at the Hoot. Hoot attendees will have the first opportunity to ride the exciting 1998 VTR1000 Super Hawk, the new Shadow American Classic Edition 750 and the Shadow American Classic Edition Tourer!

There will be great food, entertainment and parties for all riders, no matter what they ride. All the fun of a great motorcycle rally, plus the beautiful surroundings of the Great Smoky Mountains and the Blue Ridge Parkway, make the Honda Hoot a perfect place to spend your 1997 motorcycle vacation.

For more information and a free brochure, call the Hoot Hotline at 1-800-347-1289. Some rally activities have limited availability so register early.

--------------374B38F829F6-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 15:07:14 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800: Cycle Design --------------787970291DF5 To PC800 List: I just returned from a long lunch visit to Cycle Design. They have, IN STOCK, Rifle color-matched bases and various size windscreens. Same price as the group buy recently. IN STOCK, a couple of PC800 Honda shop manuals. Juan, they have, on order, a VX800 shop manual. Somewhat pricey, about $44. Call and it's yours. Also a new 1996 PC. I think they may also have a pre-owned. I didn't ask but he likely has 97(s) in crate. 1-800-343-1374 Roger Prince --------------787970291DF5 ########################################## *ROGER PRINCE 1990 PC800, 1995 PC800 * *HSTA 23----HRCA 700096----AMA 759083 * *PAcificCoastman PACman 3PCman * *FRANKLIN, MA * ########################################## --------------787970291DF5-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pgstumail.pg.cc.md.us (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA30421; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:40:55 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:40:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: James Hyder cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Hoot James, The Hoot starts June 17 in Asheville, NC. Don't know of any web pages but check most any of the cycle magazines, there's info in most of them...generally a full page add. My wife and I will be leaving this Sunday, the 8th, to meet friends from PA and MA to take the long way there, through West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee. Think we can make it in 2 weeks? ;) The Hoot lasts through Saturday the 20th and generally is a great time with some of the best riding on the east coast. The Smokies are beautiful and there's lots-o-twisties. Did I mention we'll be crossing into NC from TN at a point which will force us to ride Deal's Gap, which the wife says I get to do alone?!!! Should be interesting to see if the Wing and the Valkyrie I'm travelling with can hang with me. Asheville is about a 6 to 8 hour ride from our area depending on the route you chose but it's well worth it. Hope you can make it. Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, James Hyder wrote: > Hey guys. > > Exactly when and where is the Honda Hoot? Is there a Web page or some > other online info about it? > > --James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda Hoot From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 18:20:30 EDT Someone talked about a Web Page for the Hoot. Go to Lycos Search and enter the words "Honda Hoot" in the box and click GO FIND IT. There will appear some epistle on the Hoot and it tells a bit about it. Also there is a report on last year's Hoot. Good lucK. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 18:45:06 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Bryce Ulrich CC: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kriss Industries http://www.kriss.com fwiw Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:58:28 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gordon Golder Subject: PC800: Traveling West Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:58:28 +0000 Will be leaving on Monday 6/9, heading out of Grand Rapids, MI then on I 80 and up to Columbus Nebraska to check out the Saeng windshield protector. Might get some. Then I will follow US 30 west, maybe detouring as I go. Will end up very close to Mt. Diablo in California where I will stay for a few days and then return by whatever route suits my fancy. Any good places to meet other pc'ers for coffee along the way. Please e-mail me with suggestions and how to contact you when I'm in your area. Gordon riding Rainbow! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: timmacy@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:53:59 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Phil, You're not the only one, I've always gotten about 43 mpg except on trips. Then, I'll get about 51. Tim has some kind of bike there. He gets great mileage and doesn't burn a drop of oil, while I burn lots of it. Same motor, so it has to be in the break-in. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Help....Matilda is dead! Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:02:19 -0700 This looks very much like water in the fuel. Drain the tank, refill, and see if she'll go. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 7 Jun 97 01:18:30 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Fuel Question We all must be aware by now that not only does gas mileage vary, but I find it fascinating how all bikes over time develop their own unique personality. Try this at your next rally: switch bikes with the rider of any other PC of the same vintage. Amazing how two bikes that could have rolled off the assembly line one in front of the other will develop noticeably different riding characteristics over time. I would be willing to bet that if you had two identical bikes and treated them the same day by day, over time their distinct personalities would still emerge. The rider gets to know these characteristics, moods, temperaments, much like a close friend. You come to understand when the bike is "not feeling well" well before the outward symptoms appear. You have a sense about how this bike wants to roll through a turn, when the bike wants to get up and boogie - or seems tired. I know it sounds strange, but it's a feeling I'm sure there's a sense of. Each of these bikes is an individual. BTW, perhaps I'm overly sensitive on this subject, being one of triplets. - pauly -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Behalf Of Richard A Hardy Sent: Friday, June 06, 1997 4:54 PM To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: timmacy@juno.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Phil, You're not the only one, I've always gotten about 43 mpg except on trips. Then, I'll get about 51. Tim has some kind of bike there. He gets great mileage and doesn't burn a drop of oil, while I burn lots of it. Same motor, so it has to be in the break-in. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: That ole gas smell Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:19:51 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Rocky E Rocheux > HELP I am just starting to smell gas when I turn off bike but I > think it is the engine heat and it disappears after the bike is cooled > down. I opened the gas cap and a lot of air escaped. Perhaps it is just > some air escaping from the tank. This is a 96 with only about 4000 > miles. What do you think? (Thank you) The gas smell got progressively more intenseas the weeks wore on late last fall and iarly this spring. When it was tune up time I looked for any sign of evaporated petrol residue. I would monitor the smell each time you turn the bike off after a ride. That fresh petrol smell is very noticeable. Especially right around the gas access door. After replacing the valve and taking a short ride to burn off any dribbled gas from the exchange of components, ther was NO smell. I have approximately 17,000 miles on my PC. Be sure and verify that there is evaporated gas residue around the petcock valve. It is a pricey little part for being a rubber valve. Michael '90 PC800 "escapn" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: Lines Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:36:31 -0500 Hello All, About 6 miles of newly installed asphalt has just been opened up north of town ... Wheee! The previous surface had cracks about every 15 - 18 feet for that k-chunk - k-chunk ride. The road has some nice sweepers and a couple on\f good twisties. What is interesting though is how the absence of pavement markers (centerline and foglines) subliminily affects my riding style. Without those visual cues to "setup" and "align" the bike, I have an additional tenative feeling of not knowing "exactly" where the bike is. I've ridden this several times now, yet that cautionary voice in the back of my is still looking for pavement markers. Ther is another road about six miles from Pella that is the really old, 50's style asphalt - bumps and rolls, waffle edge, and the edge of the pavement varying by about 18". That road is a blast to ride, yet my subconcious does not look for the pavement markers of that road since they have never been there. Weird how a mind works at times. Interesting how those lines assist in riding. Also have new asphalt for about eight miles , but it is around fifteen miles from Pella, mostly flat. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:30:37 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Digest Version Needed From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) >Jason, >FWIW I for one thank you for contributing your time and efforts into >creating and maintaining this list. I have found it both useful and >entertaining. Kudos to you. >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill Q Q~ Ditto for me, Jason!! Richard Hardy San Diego -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:24:49 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Paul Hayes CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question Paul Hayes wrote: > ...switch bikes with the rider of any other PC of the > same vintage. Amazing how two bikes that could have rolled off the assembly > line one in front of the other will develop noticeably different riding > characteristics over time. > The rider gets to know these characteristics, moods, temperaments, much like a > close friend. This is what separates motorcyclists from those who merely ride motorcycles, or some such philosophical blathering... :-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 07:46:48 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Greetings! And anyone know about the radio? Hello! I am returning to the list after a long hiatus. I've been too busy to read all the mail this list generates, but am now happy to be returning! I run a 96 PC with a tall Honda windshield (yea, know about the dashboard problem....) backrest for the wife, Progressive suspension in the front and Works suspension in the back. The suspension investment was the best money I've spent in a LONG time! Handleing is greatly improved and the back end doesn't sink to the ground when my honey mounts up. When I got the old rear shocks back from my dealer, I was shocked! Hehehe... the right shock...the non adusting one was BENT! Now, I do live in DC the nation's pothole capital, and I admit to hitting one or two, but to bend a shock? Gezzzzzzzz what kinda crap did Honda put on that bike? Anyway, with the new suspenion, I once again love my baby. Hope to get a Rifle Windshield next spring when I have some more $$ saved up. As for the radio, I've searched the archives and didn't find what I was looking for. I thought there was a company which made a radio similar to the Kenwood stock radio that Honda made. I know that RKA makes a tank bag radio, but that isn't the direction I want to go. Does Honda still make the speakers? Maybe I can work a Wing radio into the PC? Anybody try this? Input? Thanks and keep the rubber down and the shiny up! -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ mjlucas@earthlink.net PGP Public Key available on request -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mjlucas@earthlink.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings! And anyone know about the radio? From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 16:27:15 EDT I saw a set of weatherproof speakers in an aftermarket Harley catalog (Drag Specialties). They are J&M brand pt #DS319933 sold in pairs $8. I think one could mount them underneath the cutouts and drill a lot of little holes for the sound to come thru or you could, if you are handy, make a big hole and construct your own grille. On Sat, 07 Jun 1997 07:46:48 -0700 Mark Lucas writes: >Hello! I am returning to the list after a long hiatus. I've been too >busy to read all the mail this list generates, but am now happy to be >returning! > >I run a 96 PC with a tall Honda windshield (yea, know about the >dashboard problem....) backrest for the wife, Progressive suspension >in >the front and Works suspension in the back. The suspension investment >was the best money I've spent in a LONG time! Handleing is greatly >improved and the back end doesn't sink to the ground when my honey >mounts up. When I got the old rear shocks back from my dealer, I was >shocked! Hehehe... the right shock...the non adusting one was BENT! >Now, I do live in DC the nation's pothole capital, and I admit to >hitting one or two, but to bend a shock? Gezzzzzzzz what kinda crap >did >Honda put on that bike? Anyway, with the new suspenion, I once again >love my baby. Hope to get a Rifle Windshield next spring when I have >some more $$ saved up. > >As for the radio, I've searched the archives and didn't find what I >was >looking for. I thought there was a company which made a radio similar >to the Kenwood stock radio that Honda made. I know that RKA makes a >tank bag radio, but that isn't the direction I want to go. Does Honda >still make the speakers? Maybe I can work a Wing radio into the PC? >Anybody try this? Input? > >Thanks and keep the rubber down and the shiny up! >-- >Peace, > Mark Lucas > http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ > mjlucas@earthlink.net > PGP Public Key available on request >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: mjlucas@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: correcting speaker price. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 16:48:24 EDT Correct speaker price to $80 a set. Also you may already know that the radio kit was discontinued by Honda. Kay at Bob's in Etters PA had just sent a radio kit back a few weeks before a visit I made there a few months back. On Sat, 07 Jun 1997 16:27:15 EDT rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) writes: >I saw a set of weatherproof speakers in an aftermarket Harley catalog >(Drag Specialties). They are J&M brand pt #DS319933 sold in pairs $8. > >I think one could mount them underneath the cutouts and drill a lot of >little holes for the sound to come thru or you could, if you are >handy, make a big hole and construct your own grille. >On Sat, 07 Jun 1997 07:46:48 -0700 Mark Lucas >writes: >>Hello! I am returning to the list after a long hiatus. I've been >too >>busy to read all the mail this list generates, but am now happy to be >>returning! >> >>I run a 96 PC with a tall Honda windshield (yea, know about the >>dashboard problem....) backrest for the wife, Progressive suspension >>in >>the front and Works suspension in the back. The suspension >investment >>was the best money I've spent in a LONG time! Handleing is greatly >>improved and the back end doesn't sink to the ground when my honey >>mounts up. When I got the old rear shocks back from my dealer, I was >>shocked! Hehehe... the right shock...the non adusting one was BENT! >>Now, I do live in DC the nation's pothole capital, and I admit to >>hitting one or two, but to bend a shock? Gezzzzzzzz what kinda crap >>did >>Honda put on that bike? Anyway, with the new suspenion, I once again >>love my baby. Hope to get a Rifle Windshield next spring when I have >>some more $$ saved up. >> >>As for the radio, I've searched the archives and didn't find what I >>was >>looking for. I thought there was a company which made a radio >similar >>to the Kenwood stock radio that Honda made. I know that RKA makes a >>tank bag radio, but that isn't the direction I want to go. Does >Honda >>still make the speakers? Maybe I can work a Wing radio into the PC? >>Anybody try this? Input? >> >>Thanks and keep the rubber down and the shiny up! >>-- >>Peace, >> Mark Lucas >> http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ >> mjlucas@earthlink.net >> PGP Public Key available on request >>-- >>Visit the PC800 web page at >>To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > >>a >>message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >>To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >> >-- Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:03:39 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 01:03:36 +0000 From: BJ Strass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: RoseBud > BJ Strass wrote: > > --------------------- > > '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) > > (if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) > > --------------------- > > I think you're confusing two classic films in your reference: "The Caine > Mutiny" starring Humphry Bogart and "Citizen Kane" starring Orson Wells. > The latter is of course the film that "Rosebud" refers to. Of course also > it just may be a typo. NBD (no big deal) BTW, they're both great films. -- > No, no, Steve. You've got it all wrong. BJ is referring to actor Michael > Caine, who in his spare time races a candy red bobsled named "Rosebud." > (Believe that, and I have a bridge you might be interested in leasing from > me.) I caught the typo shortly afterward, I stand corrected. BJ Strass Sacramento, CA --------------------- '90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) (if only Citizen Kane had a sled like this!) --------------------- "Indecision may, or may not, be my problem!" -Jimmy Buffet -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 06:28:19 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: chskanl8@ibmmail.com, US010@mdx.ac.uk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hyderepo@emirates.net.ae, mchidich@agt.net, mtbbike@pl.jaring.my, boey5_3@pacific.net.sg CC: ronng@pacific.net.sg, michael_kenderes@lendlease.com.au, jac8mar@singnet.com.sg Subject: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar Hi everyone, Here's a motorbike ride report that I just have to tell. :) I recently volunteered to be a road marshall in a bicycle race around an airfield. To be precise this is a military airfield. SO the day before the race, all ten motorcyclists were asked to go to the base for a familiarisation ride. :) After the sober briefing, the officer in charge got out his loud hailer and started giving us instructions while on the move. I stopped him and suggested we remove our helmets so we could hear him better. So there we were....ten helmetless bikers following this car like lost sheep. :) The race is a couple of laps on the runway. At first, we followed him, then some of us began to sprint down the runway, and wait for him at the end. By the last lap, all of us knew where we were going and EVERYONE opened up and really got some speed on that runway! I got to 170kmh for a short burst, my frind on a R1100RS got to 200, so did another guy on a CBR400RR! Atthe end of the orientation ride, all of us had BIG SMILES :) The kind of big smile a kid would have being let into the cookie jar when mum's not watching! Now as I sit here typing, thinking of all that speed and no helmet on.....I must be crazy....but would I do it again? yes. :) Yu Seung from Singapore -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:42:52 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , , , , , , , Cc: , , Subject: Re: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:36:03 -0400 Sounds like you got your PC cranking but am disappointed that you let the BMW take you.(just kidding) What did the official say about your speed? Vince ---------- > From: Poh Yu Seung > To: chskanl8@ibmmail.com; US010@mdx.ac.uk; pc800@hpc.uh.edu; hyderepo@emirates.net.ae; mchidich@agt.net; mtbbike@pl.jaring.my; boey5_3@pacific.net.sg > Cc: ronng@pacific.net.sg; michael_kenderes@lendlease.com.au; jac8mar@singnet.com.sg > Subject: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar > Date: Saturday, June 07, 1997 6:28 PM > > Hi everyone, > > Here's a motorbike ride report that I just have to tell. :) > > I recently volunteered to be a road marshall in a bicycle race around an > airfield. To be precise this is a military airfield. SO the day before > the race, all ten motorcyclists were asked to go to the base for a > familiarisation ride. :) > > After the sober briefing, the officer in charge got out his loud hailer > and started giving us instructions while on the move. I stopped him and > suggested we remove our helmets so we could hear him better. So there > we were....ten helmetless bikers following this car like lost sheep. :) > > The race is a couple of laps on the runway. At first, we followed him, > then some of us began to sprint down the runway, and wait for him at the > end. By the last lap, all of us knew where we were going and EVERYONE > opened up and really got some speed on that runway! I got to 170kmh for > a short burst, my frind on a R1100RS got to 200, so did another guy on a > CBR400RR! Atthe end of the orientation ride, all of us had BIG SMILES > :) > > The kind of big smile a kid would have being let into the cookie jar > when mum's not watching! Now as I sit here typing, thinking of all > that speed and no helmet on.....I must be crazy....but would I do it > again? yes. :) > > Yu Seung from Singapore > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 17:35:40 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: backrest wanted a new PC owner here in Seattle is looking for a backrest..(he bought a used 89 in cherry condition!) name is Stan. 206-874-4481. Just give him a call if you have one for sale. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 21:51:31 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: pohys@singnet.com.sg CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar Poh Yu Seung wrote: > By the last lap, all of us knew where we were going and EVERYONE > opened up and really got some speed on that runway! I got to 170kmh for > a short burst, my frind on a R1100RS got to 200,... Hmmm, I wonder if Jason could write software that would automatically divide any number followed by "kph" or "kmh" by 1.6 and cut and paste into the appropriate location?... ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 23:12:21 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Kawasaki Ride Day on a Concours. Hi folks. The following is a long post detailing a demo ride on a Kawasaki Concours, and my observations in regards to my PC800. For those of you not interested, save yourself some time and click DELETE ! Today was Kawasaki Ride Day here in Ottawa. Kawasaki Canada (say that three times fast!) and their travelling road show of demo bikes set up shop at a local Kawa dealer and offered 40 minute escorted demo rides. I've been to a few of these before (Yamaha, Honda and BMW). Well, as most of you know my PC800 is in the shop with an as-of-yet undiagnosed condition, and I really wanted to go riding, so I signed up for a test ride or two. I got to try the Concours, and was sort of impressed. Let me elaborate on that a bit. This bike is FAST. It can really move quickly, and really has the sport bike sound in the motor and exhaust. We drove away from the dealer in a group of about 10, with the Kawasaki REP at the front on his Eliminator, 4 sport bikes following him, then me on the Concours, and a Voyageur behind me followed by a couiple of laid back dudes on Vulcans. We drove down the main drag to the airport parkway, which is a smooth long stretch of road with very few on and off ramps, basically used as a direct route from Downtown to the airport. As I was accelerating up the straight access on ramp, the REP on the Eliminator basically took off like a shot out of a cannon. IT was like, CLICK, and he was on the horizon. The sport bikes pulled away from me like that "jump to lightspeed" scene in Star Wars. I was riding with my wife as a passenger, said "hang on!", and nailed it. WOW. I can't believe how fast it caught up to the pack. The REP was travelling at about 145 kph (90 mph) It really is a very powerful motor. I realize it has two more cylinders than our PC800's, but the displacement isn't that much larger. While out on the ride, we drove through a series of switchbacks where we could flick the bikes from left to right and back again. The Concours really handled this well. It felt really glued to the ground. I would imagine this is partly a result of the stickier, more expensive radial tires (which last a fraction of our PC tires. ) It corners so well that the guy in fornt of me on the ZX-9 came over to see me after the ride. He said he felt like he was really feeling the thrill of aggressive sport riding, and he was pretty amazed at his ability to drive so aggressively, when all of a sudden he saw me passing him, with a passenger !!! So...before some of you think I have jumped ship let me sum up my impression of this bike. Yup..it's fast. Yup, it corners better than my bike also. But....it really buzzes, at almost any speed. The faring lowers interfere with my size 10 1/2 shoes. I kept hitting the fairing when trying to shift and/or brake. The fairing looks like an afterthought. It almost fits the bike, and then they have this ugly moulding to fill in the gaps. The tires are sticky, sure....but they don't last as long, and cost more to replace. While the riding position is nice for agressive riding, I prefer the PC with the pegs in a more forward position. My wife found the bike was buzzy as well, and the passenger accomodations (seat, pegs, grab rails, etc.) were not as first rate as on the PC800. Basically, while the PC leans towards the Touring side of Sport-Touring, the Concours leans towards the Sport side of that equation. What the Kawasaki has in power and handling, the PC makes up for with refinement and comfort. Both are excellent bikes, and both are capable of sport touring, but they provide this function in very different ways. I like the Concours, as it was fun to drive for a demo ride, but for my current needs and tastes, I prefer the comfort, refinement, and "gentleman" attitude the PC800 offers. After 40 minutes on the Concours, I was starting to get numb in a few places, and my legs started to get cramped. (I'm about 6'2", 210 lbs) A final note - the Concours has a higher seat height than the PC, and it is a taller bike with a higher mounted, larger capacity gas tank. Despite this, it felt lower, and the weight seemed to be all in the engine area. When I drive the PC, I am aware of its weight. It is low, but feels "wider" than the Concours, if this makes any sense. ?? Well..thanks for those of you who stuck it out all the way to here! fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 Not-Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA17048; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 06:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 06:00:37 -0400 (EDT) To: jhyder@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 85th Percentile In a message dated 97-05-27 11:13:42 EDT, jhyder@erols.com (James Hyder) writes: << 85th Percentile of what? Of what all drivers are doing? If so, how can one tell what that speed is on any given road and day? And how could this be put into law, since it would be a constantly moving target? >> It's not too hard. California has such a law as a prerequisite to radar use. It requires a survey of the road and a showing that the speed at issue exceeds the 85th percentile as determined by the survey. It's also the way traffic engineers set speed limits before the feds got into the act. This isn't some sort of hex curse, it's science. Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA25906; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 06:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 06:00:35 -0400 (EDT) To: ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Practicing Front wheel lockups In a message dated 97-05-20 00:27:46 EDT, ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu (Dave DeLang) writes: << Here's $0.02: Could it be that at right near lock up, the tire makes and breaks traction at each groove of the tire's tread; but in full on-here comes the pavement-tire lock it justs slides? Any racers out there know if slicks howl before they skid? I know the howl first hand, been there, done that last week when the cages suddenly realized the freeway necked down to one lane. >> Interesting that you asked that question. I know the howl that he is referring to on the PC, but I don't experience it on ultra high performance road tires or on slicks. (Ultra high performance road tires are essentially hard slicks with a little tread to obtain DOT approval.) My read is that the howl is a result of the tread pattern. However, it may also be that the harder compounds howl while the super gummy stuff doesn't. In all events, I have stopped very short at the track and I have never heard my tires howl. (Never had the PC on a track, though. Bet it's tires would howl.) Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Kawasaki Ride Day on a Concours. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 07:25:37 EDT Why I bet everyone read it clear through. It was an excellent post and well written as well. Thank you François!! Je vous souhaite un bon journée. BTW, let us know what was wrong with your PC, won't you?. §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ Now I have a question for the gang. I just had my four thousand mile checkup on my 96 and it is beginning to hesitate (just one quick heartbeat) upon acceleration just as my old 235 Chevy sixes would do when the accelerator pump in the carb would begin to go. I know if I take it back to dlr they will say "no problem found." Suggestions??????? §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pohys@singnet.com.sg Cc: chskanl8@ibmmail.com, US010@mdx.ac.uk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hyderepo@emirates.net.ae, mchidich@agt.net, mtbbike@pl.jaring.my, boey5_3@pacific.net.sg, ronng@pacific.net.sg, michael_kenderes@lendlease.com.au, jac8mar@singnet.com.sg Subject: Re: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 07:25:37 EDT Shame on you. 40 lashes! On second thought, let me toss off my judicial robe and say, "sounds like fun, sentence commuted." On Sun, 08 Jun 1997 06:28:19 +0800 Poh Yu Seung writes: >Hi everyone, > >Here's a motorbike ride report that I just have to tell. :) > >I recently volunteered to be a road marshall in a bicycle race around >an >airfield. To be precise this is a military airfield. SO the day >before >the race, all ten motorcyclists were asked to go to the base for a >familiarisation ride. :) > >After the sober briefing, the officer in charge got out his loud >hailer >and started giving us instructions while on the move. I stopped him >and >suggested we remove our helmets so we could hear him better. So there >we were....ten helmetless bikers following this car like lost sheep. >:) > >The race is a couple of laps on the runway. At first, we followed >him, >then some of us began to sprint down the runway, and wait for him at >the >end. By the last lap, all of us knew where we were going and EVERYONE >opened up and really got some speed on that runway! I got to 170kmh >for >a short burst, my frind on a R1100RS got to 200, so did another guy on >a >CBR400RR! Atthe end of the orientation ride, all of us had BIG SMILES >:) > >The kind of big smile a kid would have being let into the cookie jar >when mum's not watching! Now as I sit here typing, thinking of all >that speed and no helmet on.....I must be crazy....but would I do it >again? yes. :) > >Yu Seung from Singapore >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 07:37:54 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: PC800: Works Suspension BernieK469@aol.com wrote: > > Pls. give me some more information about the Works Rear Suspension. > > Bernie You can pick up their address from the PC Home page.... http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ It's listed under modifications, suspension. Or your dealer should be able to order them for you. I needed to give them my weight (driver), my wife's weight (passenger), trunk load, usual riding style (city or highway) and any modifications to the bike, which I would assume would include tires, front suspension, and added weight items like radios or more luggage. I asked for a suspension that would be inbetween city and highway, because we do both. I had the custom built shocks in about 2 weeks and then had the shop install them (mainly because I really don't have a place to work on the bike :( ). They ride wonderfully and it makes a huge difference in the handling! I would strongly reccommend you switch your suspension if you can afford the $275 shocks. The Progressives for the front were only $60. This does not include installation which ran me about $250 with a 6000 mile service thrown in. And with them having all that plastic off the bike, you might as well have them do a service ;). Oh, one final side note. The Works shocks can be rebuilt for a much lower cost then replacing them, should the need ever arise. Good luck! Drop me a line if I didn't answer something! -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ mjlucas@earthlink.net PGP Public Key available on request -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 10:45:54 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Gerard Diepeveen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Test layout Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > > Hi guys, it's been a long time since you've heard from me, but now it's time > to say: I have a test layout for you. > You can find it on http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800usa/ > > Tell me what you think about it. > > Best regards, > Gerard Diepeveen > 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White > 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands > 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- > 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands > 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ Hi Gerard! I like it very much. It loads quickly, is very easy to navigate and has a very nice look to it (even on my laptop, which is not as nice of a display as many desktop systems!). I didn't notice if there would be a link to the archives search engine, but with that included, I think this is a great setup. -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 8 Jun 1997 18:37:48 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Rocky E Rocheux" Cc: , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:23:27 -0400 What you say, Rocky? You be da judge? ---------- > From: Rocky E Rocheux > To: pohys@singnet.com.sg > Cc: chskanl8@ibmmail.com; US010@mdx.ac.uk; pc800@hpc.uh.edu; hyderepo@emirates.net.ae; mchidich@agt.net; mtbbike@pl.jaring.my; boey5_3@pacific.net.sg; ronng@pacific.net.sg; michael_kenderes@lendlease.com.au; jac8mar@singnet.com.sg > Subject: Re: PC800: the proverbial cookie jar > Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997 7:25 AM > > Shame on you. 40 lashes! On second thought, let me toss off my > judicial robe and say, "sounds like fun, sentence commuted." > On Sun, 08 Jun 1997 06:28:19 +0800 Poh Yu Seung > writes: > >Hi everyone, > > > >Here's a motorbike ride report that I just have to tell. :) > > > >I recently volunteered to be a road marshall in a bicycle race around > >an > >airfield. To be precise this is a military airfield. SO the day > >before > >the race, all ten motorcyclists were asked to go to the base for a > >familiarisation ride. :) > > > >After the sober briefing, the officer in charge got out his loud > >hailer > >and started giving us instructions while on the move. I stopped him > >and > >suggested we remove our helmets so we could hear him better. So there > >we were....ten helmetless bikers following this car like lost sheep. > >:) > > > >The race is a couple of laps on the runway. At first, we followed > >him, > >then some of us began to sprint down the runway, and wait for him at > >the > >end. By the last lap, all of us knew where we were going and EVERYONE > >opened up and really got some speed on that runway! I got to 170kmh > >for > >a short burst, my frind on a R1100RS got to 200, so did another guy on > >a > >CBR400RR! Atthe end of the orientation ride, all of us had BIG SMILES > >:) > > > >The kind of big smile a kid would have being let into the cookie jar > >when mum's not watching! Now as I sit here typing, thinking of all > >that speed and no helmet on.....I must be crazy....but would I do it > >again? yes. :) > > > >Yu Seung from Singapore > >-- > >Visit the PC800 web page at > >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > >a > >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sun, 8 Jun 1997 18:37:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , , Subject: Re: PC800: Practicing Front wheel lockups Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:25:31 -0400 Ted, are you the one that they always write about in the back of Cycle Mag? ---------- > From: TedJ101@aol.com > To: ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Practicing Front wheel lockups > Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997 6:00 AM > > In a message dated 97-05-20 00:27:46 EDT, ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu (Dave > DeLang) writes: > > << Here's $0.02: Could it be that at right near lock up, the tire makes and > breaks traction at each groove of the tire's tread; but in full on-here > comes the pavement-tire lock it justs slides? Any racers out there know if > slicks howl before they skid? I know the howl first hand, been there, done > that last week when the cages suddenly realized the freeway necked down to > one lane. >> > > Interesting that you asked that question. I know the howl that he is > referring to on the PC, but I don't experience it on ultra high performance > road tires or on slicks. (Ultra high performance road tires are essentially > hard slicks with a little tread to obtain DOT approval.) My read is that the > howl is a result of the tread pattern. However, it may also be that the > harder compounds howl while the super gummy stuff doesn't. In all events, I > have stopped very short at the track and I have never heard my tires howl. > (Never had the PC on a track, though. Bet it's tires would howl.) > > Regards, > <> > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with ESMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 5038300 ; Sun, 08 Jun 1997 23:10:42 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 23:09:03 -0400 From: Henry A Ulrich To: "PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Don't appear to have any on the 97. Or is it me? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 20:53:40 -0700 I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 Spencer ---------- > From: Henry A Ulrich > To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals > Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997 8:09 PM > > Don't appear to have any on the 97. Or is it me? > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 21:38:47 -0700 (MST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rbailey@primenet.com (Randy D. Bailey) Subject: PC800: Left Coast Ride I'm heading for Monterey and San Francisco in July. I'll take I-10 from Phoenix to Los Angeles, then plan on following the Pacific Coast Highway or Hwy 1 (or the closest route to the coastline north). This will be my first motorcycle trip up the coast (2-up with my fiance). I would appreciate any left coasters' ideas on must-see sights, great places to eat and some idea of what to expect in weather/temp conditions, side rides and what condition the road is in... We have eight days for the trip and don't plan on spending all day in the saddle; we want to stop and smell the roses, seaweed or whatever we come across. Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated (and I'll reciprocate for anyone wanting info on rides in or through Arizona -- I can route you to the best taco stands in the desert). ============================================================== Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 Chandler, AZ USA 85226 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 01:39:21 -0400 From: Bernie Subject: PC800: Star 97 To: PC 800 Pacific Coast My wife and I are considering going down to Star 97 in Eufaula, OK. It = is only a short run from KC. I was wondering how many other list members= = are going to be in Eufaula? Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 18:47:20 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: fast cookie jar OK everyone, it's my fault...this list is based in the US so I ought to write in mph. Yes, I got max speed out of my PC that day on the runway. I hit 105 mph (170kmh) My buddy on the K1100RS got at least 125 mph (200 kmh), so did the CBR400RR. It was fascinating watching them zoom off because there was a construction site nearby and some dust must have settled on the runway. The CBR kicks up just a bit of dust, whereas the BMW had a gigantic parachute of dust following him. I saw all this because I was behind them..... :( Another guy in the group said my PC kicked up about the same amount of dust as the BM did. And I thought PC's are sleeker.... The officer in charge of the event even commented that we had begun having fun and kinda encouraged us. The safety officer in charge of the base had a real long face, but that was after it was all over and no one got hurt. By the way, could someone explain to me, in personal mail, why the US doesn't want to go metric when it wants to be the dominant free economy in the world? I've been brought up on metric and just can't understand why.... Yu Seung from Singapore -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 07:49:04 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:45:28 -0700 From: mickeymatt@clearnet.net (Matt Humphreys) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Spencer Whatcott wrote: > > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! Matt Humphreys mickeymatt@clearnet.net or mickeymatt@aol.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:20:23 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: "Randy D. Bailey" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Randy D. Bailey wrote: > > I'm heading for Monterey and San Francisco in July. I'll take I-10 from > Phoenix to Los Angeles, then plan on following the Pacific Coast Highway or > Hwy 1 (or the closest route to the coastline north). This will be my first > motorcycle trip up the coast (2-up with my fiance). I would appreciate any > left coasters' ideas on must-see sights, great places to eat and some idea > of what to expect in weather/temp conditions, side rides and what condition > the road is in... We have eight days for the trip and don't plan on > spending all day in the saddle; we want to stop and smell the roses, > seaweed or whatever we come across. Any comments and suggestions will be > appreciated (and I'll reciprocate for anyone wanting info on rides in or > through Arizona -- I can route you to the best taco stands in the desert). Hi Randy! If you have the time, I would certainly try to hit the coast a little farther south, like say San Diego. I think it's one of our most beautiful areas. If you're both into a little adventure, you could stop by Torrey Pines and take a hang glider ride!! Depending on when you're planning to be here, maybe some of us SCPCRCer's could ride with you part of way on your trek. I'll even bring a couple of compatible radios so that we can all chat while we ride! Hope to see Y'all, -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:25:24 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: pohys@singnet.com.sg CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: fast cookie jar Poh Yu Seung wrote: > > By the way, could someone explain to me, in personal mail, why the US > doesn't want to go metric when it wants to be the dominant free economy > in the world? I've been brought up on metric and just can't understand > why.... I can't speak for the rest of the country, but for me, I'm just an old dog who has a hard time learning new tricks!!! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:29:19 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Matt Humphreys wrote: > > Spencer Whatcott wrote: > > > > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 > > Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I > alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every > couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would hate to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA19123; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:41:21 -0400 (EDT) To: ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Lines In a message dated 97-06-07 00:25:15 EDT, ctywrksmikeb@lisco.net (Michael S. Brown) writes: << About 6 miles of newly installed asphalt has just been opened up north of town ... >> And the name of the town/city/state is.....????? Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA26874; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:53:02 -0400 (EDT) To: mjlucas@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Greetings! And anyone know about the radio? In a message dated 97-06-07 07:48:53 EDT, mjlucas@earthlink.net (Mark Lucas) writes: << dashboard problem....) backrest for the wife, Progressive suspension in the front and Works suspension in the back. >> What's the deal on the Works in the rear? What did you get to fit and how much $$$??? Ii thought that unless you performed major surgery, no rear suspension pieces were available.... TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:58:07 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Randy D. Bailey" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Randy D. Bailey wrote: > > I'm heading for Monterey and San Francisco in July. I would appreciate any > LEFT COASTERS' ideas on must-see sights, great places to eat and some idea > of what to expect in weather/temp conditions, side rides and what condition > the road is in... OK... now let me see if I get this right. The Left Coast is the Pacific Coast of the United States and the Right Coast is the Atlantic Coast of the United States. What is the Gulf Coast called? The Crotch Coast? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2721 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:01:53 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Re: Metric U.S. ** Reply to note from Poh Yu Seung Mon, 09 Jun 1997 18:47:20 +0800 > By the way, could someone explain to me, in personal mail, why the US > doesn't want to go metric when it wants to be the dominant free economy in > the world? I've been brought up on metric and just can't understand why.... Plain old inertia, mostly. Opponents will say that it would be too costly to convert all scales, and other equipment, but as you point out, there has to be a cost of *not* converting, too, in the global market. There have been several efforts in the past thirty years to get the country to convert, changing speed limit signs, etc. But they have mostly faded away in the face of public resistance. I believe that the as part of VP Gore's Reinventing Government program, the Federal government is now required to express all weights and measures in its contracts in metric. But I don't think that this means that the government has to buy and use metric (or even dual-measure) devices. The U.S. is a very insular and self-contained country. We are quite pleased and proud that our TV shows and movies are watched all around the world, but we would never dream of watching a show or movie from France or Germany, much less India or Burma. Especially if it had those pesky subtitles. Our attitude seems to be "Since we are the only remaining superpower, we don't have to pay attention to the rest of world." The metric system is some strange and foreign thing to people who feel this way. I suspect that if and when we do go metric in a big way, it will be because enough businesses in this country found they had work in metric for their international customers and decided it was too much trouble to have two inventories, or two sets of manuals, etc. At a certain point enough Americans will know the metric system that they won't just automatically resist as we seem to do now. Okay, a bit off-topic. But relevant, indirectly, to those of us who have to own two sets of tools to work on our Japanese bikes and the rest of our (SAE) equipment. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:06:58 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 10:04:49 +0100 From: tomp@mmrs.state.ms.us (Tom Patterson) To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > OK... now let me see if I get this right. The Left Coast is the Pacific > Coast of the United States and the Right Coast is the Atlantic Coast of > the United States. What is the Gulf Coast called? The Crotch Coast? > -- Tacky, Steve, very tacky. The Gulf Coast is definitely the Gold Coast. Come see us sometime, you'll be convinced! Tom Patterson Pearl MS 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA28465; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:06:42 -0400 (EDT) To: applebit@compuserve.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Star 97 Well Bernie, I'll be there on Sunday and Monday. Tuesday morning I leave for a trip to Taos, NM, north through CO to Cheyenne, WY then to the BadLands/Mt. Rushmore, SD and then back to Chicago. This is during the week of June 23 - 27. Any of you folks along the route? TZ Chicago -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 11:11:43 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals PILEWIS1 wrote: > > Matt Humphreys wrote: > > > > Spencer Whatcott wrote: > > > > > > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 > > > > Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I > > alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every > > couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! > > I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some > occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would hate > to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be > selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. > I didn't like the SC turn signals at first because they would frequently turn off prematurely. Now I automatically keep poking the switch. I wore the one out on my '90 at 85K, button return spring went. $75. The turn-signal unit is a black box. I doubt any mods are possible. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: , "Randy D. Bailey" Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 08:23:38 -0700 The pacific coast is loaded. If you haven't been to Hearst Castle, it's a must. Just south of the castle is the 'artist's' community of Cambria (try Linn's restaurant). Just a bit south of Cambria is the tiny town of Harmony (if you like it, the whole town is for sale). If you wish to seal your engagement, pull into Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park about twelve miles south of the "Big Sur" area, it has the only waterfall in California that leaps into the ocean. 1.8 miles north of this you'll see a trail head marked by a metal gate just as the road does an inland loop. This trail leads to an old tunnel and ends up in a spectacular cove. If you enjoy lighthouses, the Point Sur Lighthouse will blow your socks off and is open to tours Saturdays at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. on Saturdays, 10 a.m. Sunday (arrive one half hour early, first come first serve $5/each). A bit north, stop at the Bixby Bridge. This is the famous Rainbow Bridge you see in all the commercials. Carmel is certainly a great little town. If your fiancee is into shopping, best stay away. The 17 mile drive shows that money can buy beauty. Monterey has a great Path of History Walk $2. The Monterey Bay Aquarium is one of the greatest Aquariums anywhere. If you're into Beach Boardwalks. Stop by Santa Cruz. They have a great rollercoaster and offer free Concerts on the beach on Friday nights. On Mondays and Tuesdays, they have their discount days where all rides, and certain goodies are .50 cents each (after 5:00 p.m..). Weather wise, it can be fogged (aka cold). If you have electric vests, bring them, if not, don't leave the thermals behind. I kicked this out quickly. If you'd like more from me, just send me an e-mail. Spencer ---------- > From: Randy D. Bailey > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Left Coast Ride > Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997 9:38 PM > > I'm heading for Monterey and San Francisco in July. I'll take I-10 from > Phoenix to Los Angeles, then plan on following the Pacific Coast Highway or > Hwy 1 (or the closest route to the coastline north). This will be my first > motorcycle trip up the coast (2-up with my fiance). I would appreciate any > left coasters' ideas on must-see sights, great places to eat and some idea > of what to expect in weather/temp conditions, side rides and what condition > the road is in... We have eight days for the trip and don't plan on > spending all day in the saddle; we want to stop and smell the roses, > seaweed or whatever we come across. Any comments and suggestions will be > appreciated (and I'll reciprocate for anyone wanting info on rides in or > through Arizona -- I can route you to the best taco stands in the desert). > > > ============================================================== > Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com > R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 > 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 > Chandler, AZ USA 85226 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:10:08 +0200 (MET DST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Silver PC800!!!!! Hi all, I have somthing you maybe never have seen before, a silver PC800 and it has not been repainted. It's a Japanese model and his owner is Duncan Ong form Singapore. If you want to know what it's look like, go an have a look at our pictures page, it's says: Silver bullet from Duncan Ong. http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pictures.htm Have fun, Gerard Diepeveen, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA16598; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:55:33 -0400 (EDT) To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals In a message dated 97-06-09 10:31:51 EDT, PILEWIS1@concentric.net (PILEWIS1) writes: << I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would hate to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. >> It isn't based on a time delay, it is based on a pendulum. When the pendulum comes upright, the signal cancels. If you put the signal on with the bike upright and then make small steering corrections before the turn that you were intending to signal, you can have the turn signals cancel prematurely, though. Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA16748; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:56:00 -0400 (EDT) To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net, ddelang@twilight.vtc.vsc.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Practicing Front wheel lockups In a message dated 97-06-08 14:39:45 EDT, vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) writes: << Ted, are you the one that they always write about in the back of Cycle Mag? >> Vince, No, though you are not the first to ask ... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:02:35 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals At 07:45 AM 6/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I >alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every >couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! Sure, drop by your friendly nieghborhood Honda dealer, hand over your wallet and order the '97 parts. Simple! ;-) Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 03:30:55 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: North San Diego County Ride Report *************************WARNING WARNING WARNING********************************* WHAT FOLLOWS IS A LENGTHY RIDE REPORT WITH ASSORTED INCLUDED EDITORIAL COMMENTS IF YOU AIN'T INTERESTED....DELETE NOW 6-7-97 Riders: Steve Churchill Samuel Davis III (Sammy Dee) Location: Carlsbad, Escondido, Lake Wolford, Valley Center, San Marcos, Vista, Oceanside Start: 8:30 AM, Denny's Restaurant, Palomar Airport Road, Carlsbad, California, USA Well, I was on time and in the right spot. This was to be a mini ride (morning only) to meet a new member of the Southern California Pacific Coast Riders Club (SCPCRC) so he could see first hand, some of the modifications on a PC; specifically a Rifle windshield. Since it was a spontaneous-last-minute-non-organized ride, none of the other members could make it. C'est la vie. True to the tradition of the SCPCRC he was late. He'll fit in fine. To his credit Sammy Dee informed me ahead of time he would probably arrive a bit after the arbitrary 8:30 show time. About 9 AM he arrived straight from a graveyard shift with the Department of Corrections in San Diego-about 45 minutes south. Pretty good condsidering. I saw him through the restaurant window as he drove up on his new '96 Brrright Rrred PC wearing a bright red Motoport two piece Cordura riding suit, black helmet, and regulation black combat boots. Lessee...Black, red, black, red, black. Hmmm... does it match? After he came in and sat down, in true to SCPCRC style we talked at length about PC's, taking over an hour to eat a 15 minute breakfast. Then we retired to the parking lot and blew another 45 minutes looking over our bikes and comparing. Though Sammy bought his bike in April he already has over 4k miles on it; commuting 75 miles a day does that. The bike is pretty much stock except a Hondaline backrest, SAENG Stealth edging on a stock windshield and a thumb actuated throttle lock. I had mine in full dresser mode: Rifle tall windshield, Corbin seat and backrest, Givi 50 liter trunk and rack, 18 liter Tourmaster tankbag, custom trunk lights, throttle lock, headlight modulator, and digital clock/thermometer. He plans to add all of that plus some Tenzo lights. He'll fit in fine. (for the record, some of the members of the SCPCRC have straight stock bikes and they fit in fine also) Though he's 6'3", he looked through my 24" Rifle 'shield about 2" below the top. I'm only 6' tall and I see over the top by about 1-2". Thoracic height makes a difference. We also tried out the Maxxon 49 mHz radios. He, like me, had the Chatterbox matchbox size intercom and was less that impressed with its performance at highway speeds and noise. The Maxxon units are a magnitude better. Though I have had my unit for a while now, I put in a 6-pin DIN connector in the cord that attached the belt mounted radio box to the helmet mounted headset. This was an attempt to leave the belt mounted unit on my tank bag and still be able to walk around without having to take off my helmet. It turned out to be an exercise in frustration as my soldering job inside the tiny connector was less than professional both in neatness and in strength. On the Santa Barbara trip a fortnight ago I spent my nights in the motel room wielding a soldering iron each evening to reconnect the broken parts. In the interim since I had cut out the entire DIN plug and resoldered the headset wires inside the belt box. Unfortunately, on the workbench I was frustrated because even though I checked and rechecked and found all the connections to be good there was a persistent loud white noise in the headset every time I turned it on. Dang, I must have fried something. Phil Lewis had dropped off a couple of new radios the night before (leaving a little side guard paint on the pavement of my very steep driveway) and I was resolved to buying one of them. But the elves came that night and fixed my radio while it sat on the bench. When I tried it the next morning with the sunlight streaming through the open garage door...HA! No Noise! Of course NOW I realize all the elves had to do was turn off my flourescent workbench light. This ride was the first actual-conditions test of my fix job. We loaded batteries in the waist unit of his new radio, mounted the headset on his helmet, affixed the PTT switch to the right handgrip, and after checking channels were on our way... To the next door gas station. While topping off our tanks he talked about the web site and how he had picked up an enormous amount of PC and general motorcycle information. Then he mentioned reading about this guy who had filled his tank with diesel fuel...sorry Harrison, he brought it up, not me. Ok, tanks full, bladders empty, now we were really on our way. After transmitting several test calls and getting no response we stopped about two hundred yards from the gas station. Dang. My radio is on the fritz again. But a quick check found Sammy didn't have his volume up. Well...it's a new radio to him. Off again-east on Palomar Airport Road, right on El Camino Real, left on Poinsettia, right on Santa Fe, left on Questhaven. This first set of twisties is in the area of the Harmony Grove fire last fall. I went through about two weeks after the fire and the hills were only dry baked dirt and blackened manzanita branches. This time through the fire evidence was scant. In in intervening rainy season grass had completely grown over the charred ground and the surviving brush had sprouted new leaves. The road got increasingly technical as the width narrowed and curves increased through the hills. Then the asphalt ended. Winding between hills on a one lane dirt road, up and down through dry stream beds, under a canopy of live oak trees was most enjoyable as long as you kept the speed under a moderate sphincter factor and if you were in front. Behind me Sammy was sucking my dust though we were going slow enough not to kick up too much. With the pretty scenery, he didn't seem to mind. After four miles we were back to pavement. We took Harmony Grove Rd into Escondido and Valley Center Parkway through and out again the other side. He was having trouble coordinating his thumb between the PTT, turn signals, and horn switch which led to some lively light and sound action behind me while he was trying to talk. So we stopped and disconnected the remote PTT button, took it off the handlebar and set his Vox. For the record, I have my PTT actuated by my index finger and it's mounted on the handlebar cover-not the grip. About 2 miles out of town we took a right on Lake Wolford Drive-it's twisty time again! Sammy up to this point was chatting and enjoying the freedom of riding his bike and being able to talk to another person with the enthusiasm of a kid with a new toy. I was vicariously enjoying his enthusiasm. Climbing the road to Lake Wolford the tone of his conversation changed to greater heights of excitement as each new curve showed a more spectacular view. It was at this point the word "Awesome" came into liberal use and though I can't say he wore it out, he certainly frayed its edges. To those among you who might interpret these comments as negative I submit that I know of no one, including myself, who has not had an experience so inspiring so as to exceed the most erudite vocabulary. Though he nearly completely dominated radio transmissions (remember, he was on Vox) I didn't mind because I was enjoying him enjoying the ride so much that I was laughing inside my helmet and couldn't transmit anything intelligible anyway. At the top of the pass we rode over the dam for Lake Wolford though it's hard to tell from the view at the time. A half mile further the lake scene opens with a small, two mile lake surrounded by chapparal hills; incongruous and yet pleasing to the eye. The road by this time has smoothed from a windey mountainside-clinging two lane to a wider macadam that sways and undulates between the low hills of Bear Valley. We flirted along the edges of the San Pasqual Indian Reservation and made a halting left (Dang! passed the turnoff!...U-turn...now right) onto Woods Valley Road that continued the scenic sweeps we found in Bear Valley. It's a favorite for bicycle riders and we saw several groups and clubs out riding in various stages of effort. The road ended in a "T" with S6 at the hamlet of Valley Center which pretty much describes its situation. We proceeded north about a mile and then turned left onto Lilac Road which headed into the hills again and the twisties. As the road again progressively narrowed we climbed higher into the North County area dominated by hillside orange and avocado groves. The semi-desert scrub and chapparal brush gave way to geometric patterns of twenty foot trees. Every 20-30 acres of groves is dominated by a landowner's huge house on a peak top. Some of these abodes qualify for the cover of "Home and Garden" or "Archetectural Digest". Ostentation seems de rigeur. There must be real money in avocados. After making another "halting left" onto Couser Canyon Road the progression of the road's course to a serpentine nature reached its apex with a succession of a couple dozen or more 15 and 20mph blind curves (that's actual mph, not posted!) as we wound our way down the canyon from the pass. Sammy scraped the toe of his boot twice (size 13's). Though the road required concentration, the spectacular view demanded attention and we nervously hazarded glances to the side. I scared myself after trying to take in too much scenery one time. We stopped at one view with the intent to take pictures but Sammy noted that we were two brand new bikes stopped on a two foot dirt shoulder on the far side of a very tight blind curve looking over a 60 degree slope that didn't stop until the stream bed about 800 feet below. With that thought we didn't tarry. As we reached the canyon bottom the road straightened out through the pastureland on the floodplain of the San Luis Rey River. A left at the "T" intersection with Hwy 76 headed us west again across Fwy 15 and we stopped for a rest at a gas station/convienence store where it met with Old Hwy 395. I remember 395 the way it was in the 1960's as the only inland way from San Diego to Riverside. It was a two lane highway through the foothills of the mountain range that separated the Pacific Ocean from the Anza-Borrego Desert. On a good day it took three hours to go the hundred mile trip but on holiday weekends it could take five. Fwy 15 now is much faster and straighter and is eight lanes wide most of the way. Though I get there faster, I enjoy the trip less. The hills themselves haven't changed much. There are more shopping centers and housing tracts and smaller open spaces in between, but the semi-desert still dominates. At 75 mph though I don't look at the landscape anymore. It goes by too fast. I liked it better at 35 mph stuck behind a truck with no passing lane for five miles. When all you have to look at ahead is the back end of a slow truck you take the time to look around. Frustrating? Yes. Prettier? Yes. Enjoyable? A positive balance. There are still some sections of Old 395 left that parallel Fwy 15 and we next headed south on one of those. This was the first time on this ride we got over 50 mph and Sammy had increasing difficulty understanding my transmissions. This was the same symptom of broken connections I had on the Santa Barbara ride. Dang, the radio's still screwed up! After we made a left onto West Lilac Road we stopped after a short distance to change the batteries in my radio hoping that was the problem. Proceeding forth again, transmission was clear and the problem seemed solved. We were into the twisties again with more gorgeous scenery but Sammy's garrulous streak had been tapering off for over an hour. He was suffering from a combination of beauty overload and just plain fatigue. I slept the night before, he worked. However, in spite of that, after informing him that we had negotiated the last of the tight twisties, he was vociferously dissappointed. A right turn headed us back towards civilization on the still scenic but faster Old Castle Road. Descending at speed out of the pass overlooking a valley filled with horse farms and a golf course Sammy again complained of my transmission breaking up and even lost me completely for over two minutes. I had been talking to him but he just couldn't hear me. Dang! this radio is going into the trashcan! At the bottom I again got through to him intermittently but I was disgusted by now. As I slowed to stop (to change to the other new radio we had with us) I heard it. I heard him breathing. Of course he should be breathing; but not into the radio. Vox. At speed, the wind noise would intermittently kick in his transmitter and consequently cut out his receiver. We were going fast down the hill and he was continuously transmitting...the wind noise. Doesn't sound much different from what's already out there so neither of us figured it out. There was nothing wrong with my radio after all. We reset his Vox which had moved since early in the ride and the problem was solved. When Old Castle Road met Old 395 we headed south toward Escondido passing the Lawrence Welk Resort that still thrives after 35 years. A right turn on Deer Valley Road crossed us over FWY 15 again and we had our last few fun sweeping curves before meeting up with Fwy 78 for the last few miles home. It was 2 PM. At the final offramp we stopped in a parking lot, exchanged our farewells, and then each headed home tired and happy. That will do until the next SCPCRC ride. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2721 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:11:23 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals At 12:55 PM 6/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >It isn't based on a time delay, it is based on a pendulum. When the pendulum >comes upright, the signal cancels. If you put the signal on with the bike >upright and then make small steering corrections before the turn that you >were intending to signal, you can have the turn signals cancel prematurely, >though. Ummm, not quite true. The self cancelling feature uses a very neat time/speed/distance algorithm. Check out the archives, someone here went through the whole explanation of how it works. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:18:24 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Test layout Dear Gerard, for the layout, could you make the sound of the PC when you press the START button? Also, under the trivia column, would be nice to have a page on the design history of the PC. What do you think, gang? Yu Seung from Singapore -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Bernie'" , PC 800 Pacific Coast Subject: RE: PC800: Star 97 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:21:47 -0700 I'll be there as will Roger Prince /wife and Tim Macy/wife. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Left Coast Ride From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Jun 1997 12:43:28 -0500 Lines: 7 >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: SAC> What is the Gulf Coast called? The Crotch Coast? Perhaps. Just look at Florida. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 13:51:09 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: pohys@singnet.com.sg Cc: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Test layout > Dear Gerard, for the layout, could you make the sound of the PC when you > press the START button? It's already there.:) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:14:43 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rbailey@primenet.com (Randy D. Bailey) From: "Gregg L. DesElms" Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:14:43 -0600 At 09:38 PM 06/08/97 -0700, Randy D. Bailey wrote: >I'm heading for Monterey and San Francisco in July. I'll take I-10 from >Phoenix to Los Angeles, then plan on following the Pacific Coast Highway or >Hwy 1 (or the closest route to the coastline north). This will be my first >motorcycle trip up the coast (2-up with my fiance). I would appreciate any >left coasters' ideas on must-see sights, great places to eat and some idea >of what to expect in weather/temp conditions, side rides and what condition >the road is in... We have eight days for the trip and don't plan on >spending all day in the saddle; we want to stop and smell the roses, >seaweed or whatever we come across. Any comments and suggestions will be >appreciated (and I'll reciprocate for anyone wanting info on rides in or >through Arizona -- I can route you to the best taco stands in the desert). > Randy, I'm not a left coaster, but I've been there a few times (actually a few more than "a few.") And, a few years back, my (now ex-) girlfriend decided I needed a vacation and she wanted to see California (San Francisco and the Pacific Coast highway, specifically -- largely because she had never been there and I kept talking about how nice it was). She booked a couple nights in San Fran, followed by a short plane ride down to San Diego, where we rented a Gold Wing from California Motorcycle Rentals, Inc. (they only have BMW's now). (She had shipped helmets, jackets, etc. and all we did was pick it up and get going.) We rode up the Pacific Coast Highway at a slightly-rushed, two-day pace. (In retrospect, three would have been better.) We returned the bike in Moss Beach (a little south of San Francisco) and it was a terrific two days. We flew back to Chicago with smiles on our faces. The overnight she booked was a weird, but fun, interesting and -- most of all -- INTERESTING. (But also weird. Did I mention "weird?" Geez, it was very weird.) She knows I have very eclectic tastes, and that I'm always up for an adventure. So, for the pure entertainment of it, she found a motel in San Luis Obispo that was without a doubt the strangest places I've ever stayed. Others reading this who have been there or live in the area probably already know which one I'm talking about. I can't remember the name of it, but I'm sure someone on this list will tell you its name. It has basically two kinds of rooms: "Normal" rooms (approximately like any motel), and "rock rooms," wherein you feel like you're staying overnight in a cave -- sort of. Some of the rock rooms have waterfall showers, etc. But ALL of the rooms are intentionally TACKY! Clashing colors and patterns; '50's furniture; mixed decorating styles... it's a trip! Some of it is almost difficult to look at, but it's well worth the stop if you're into such weird things for the pure spectacle of it. I was thoroughly entertained. Again, hopefully, someone on this list will be able to post its name and phone number for you. Call NOW to make your reservations. I remember the rock rooms (which we did not stay in, but one of which I was able to poke my head into briefly) are booked months in advance. Of course, beyond that, there are many nice things to see along the Pacific Coast Highway. Others who have traveled it more often and rently than I may have suggestions of their own. You're allowing enough time to see a lot. A few of my personal favorites are: - Herst Castle - Santa Cruz - Big Sur - Ano Nuevo - Carmel - The redwoods - Monterey Aquarium - Point Reys (spelling?) Ano Nuevo is cool 'cause it's one of only a few places on the North American continent where elephant seals come to mate. With a docent, one can walk down to the beach and get about thirty feet from the males as they wait for the females to arrive (and you can watch 'em fight and stuff). It's a sphincter-restricting experience to be standing in the sand when a 22 foot long, two and a half ton male elephant seal decides to turn your direction and let you know in his own special way that you're standing a little too close. Thank goodness they're not terribly fleet of foot on land. Unfortunately, I think you'll be going at a bad time of year for that. You'll have to check with them to see if this is the right season (I think it's not). If you'd like to experience some nice twisties (beyond whatever twists the Pacific Coast Highway itself offers) as you head northward, after you get north of Ano Nuevo, there are several highways that will take you through the redwood forests, over the mountain, and end you up in the Redwood City area. (In fact, isn't Alice's Restaurant right around there?) Several stretches are fantastic twists and turns (some hairpin, so be careful). But you won't want to leave the Pacific Coast Highway that way. You should meander back and continue north so you can see the sheer cliff coastline north of Moss Beach, heading into San Francisco (best experienced in mid- to late-afternoon -- at the "golden hour"). Well... I've offered enough advice. I'd really be interested in what kind of advice others somewhat more familiar with the area might offer you. I'm thinking about heading out there myself again this year, so I'm eager to read what others have to say. Have a nice trip. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:25:44 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Gerard Diepeveen" Subject: Re: PC800: Silver PC800!!!!! Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:37:19 -0400 Gerard, I am jealous. Does he want to trade for a red one? Vince ---------- > From: Gerard Diepeveen > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Silver PC800!!!!! > Date: Monday, June 09, 1997 12:10 PM > > Hi all, I have somthing you maybe never have seen before, a silver PC800 and > it has not been repainted. > It's a Japanese model and his owner is Duncan Ong form Singapore. > If you want to know what it's look like, go an have a look at our pictures > page, it's says: Silver bullet from Duncan Ong. > > http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pictures.htm > > Have fun, > Gerard Diepeveen, PCN > 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White > 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands > 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- > 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands > 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 14:39:11 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Gregg L. DesElms" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > The overnight she booked was a weird, but fun, interesting and -- most of > all -- INTERESTING. (But also weird. Did I mention "weird?" Geez, it was > very weird.) > She knows I have very eclectic tastes, and that I'm always up for an > adventure. So, for the pure entertainment of it, she found a motel in San > Luis Obispo that was without a doubt the strangest places I've ever stayed... The place is called the Madonna Inn in San Luis Obispo and to my understanding ALL the rooms are different each with it's own theme e.g. cave room, Victorian room, log cabin room, western room, danish modern room etc. I've stayed there twice and one time the room I stayed in had a merry-go-round in it! BTW the zoo they maintained for many years is now gone but I still think the men's restrooms for the dining hall are the most unique anywhere ( Can you say "pee into the waterfall"?). <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2721 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:16:25 -0700 "Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals" (Jun 9, 11:11am) To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com, PILEWIS1@concentric.net Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Cc: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu God save us from bored Japanese engineers ;-)! When riding Erin's PC I too have found this little feature down-right annoying and just like Roger, I found myself stabbing the button over and over again. Although, to be fair, this feature has saved me from looking like a boob with turn-signal on for miles and miles :-). So I guess it's not *all* bad. I do have a question, however: Is it a timer that determines when to shut off the signals or is it a lean sensor (or both)? The reason I ask this is because I have noticed that if I don't lean the bike after turning the signals on, they stay on for quite some time before they go off. However, if I turn them on and immediately lean the bike in any way (ie. changing lanes, etc.) the *on-time* is considerably shorter. Just my immagination? Just curious. Ramin On Jun 9, 11:11am, Roger Prince wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals > PILEWIS1 wrote: > > > > Matt Humphreys wrote: > > > > > > Spencer Whatcott wrote: > > > > > > > > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 > > > > > > Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I > > > alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every > > > couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! > > > > I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some > > occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would hate > > to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be > > selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. > > > > I didn't like the SC turn signals at first because they would frequently > turn off prematurely. Now I automatically keep poking the switch. I > wore the one out on my '90 at 85K, button return spring went. $75. > The turn-signal unit is a black box. I doubt any mods are possible. > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Roger Prince -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 21:00:21 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals I just really don't understand all this discussion about how bad the turn signals are. I have a '95 and I rarely have to re-initiate the signals, nor do I have to cut them off often. More often have to cut them off then re-start them. Anyone else happy with them???? -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ mjlucas@earthlink.net PGP Public Key available on request -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:15:11 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Jason L Tibbitts III" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Left Coast Ride Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:59:51 -0400 Hey, don't be dissing on Florida. Vince Fort Myers, FL ---------- > From: Jason L Tibbitts III > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: Left Coast Ride > Date: Monday, June 09, 1997 1:43 PM > > >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: > > SAC> What is the Gulf Coast called? The Crotch Coast? > > Perhaps. Just look at Florida. > > - J< > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 21:07:01 -0400 From: Paul & Kirsten Lawson To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Newbie, I guess Hi All, My name is Paul Lawson, I own a 1995 ST1100. My wife is showing an interest in getting a bike of her own now and we're looking at the PC800 as a companion for the ST. So I thought I'd join your list and get to know about the PC800 and maybe get to know some people who own them. I have a few questions, the ones I'm sure you get with every newbie. What should I expect to pay for a 2-3 year old PC in good condition? What kind of mileage and range do you all get on the PC? Can anyone give me their opinion on how the PC compares to the ST in terms of acceleration, handling and touring? From what I understand it is a very capable machine, but I have yet to ride one. Well I look forward to hearing from some of you and maybe getting a chance to meet some of you down the road. Thanks for the help, -Paul Paul & Kirsten Lawson Dayton, OH 1995 ST1100 STOC #338 holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:44:32 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, I guess Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:33:43 -0400 Paul, Prices vary from $3500 on up. Since the PC hasn't changed much over the years , the year is not that important. (like the ST). I get around 50 mpg for a safe range of 175 miles which varies with the speed of travel. Some on the list get as low as 43 mpg and some as high as 55 mpg. The PC does not have the power of the ST but will tour as well. I can set mine ( a 1990) on 75-85 MPH and she will run all day. Handling is such a subjective thing that I will leave that to others on the list.Mine seems to handle just fine but then again I am not a knee drager. The PC is one of the finest all around motorcycles that exist but so is the ST. A lot of the PC owners have "graduated" to the ST and I am sure they will have their own opinion. See if you can get a demo ride at one of the shows and I am sure that you will like it. Vince ---------- > > I have a few questions, the ones I'm sure you get with every newbie. > What should I expect to pay for a 2-3 year old PC in good condition? > What kind of mileage and range do you all get on the PC? Can anyone > give me their opinion on how the PC compares to the ST in terms of > acceleration, handling and touring? From what I understand it is a very > capable machine, but I have yet to ride one. > > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:44:44 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "PC800 Mailing List" Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:36:07 -0400 I am very happy with the turn signals on my 1990. I wish I had them on my Shadow and Transalp. Nothing is more embarassing than riding down the road with your blinker going for several blocks. Vince ---------- > From: Mark Lucas > To: PC800 Mailing List > Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 12:00 AM > > I just really don't understand all this discussion about how bad the > turn signals are. I have a '95 and I rarely have to re-initiate the > signals, nor do I have to cut them off often. More often have to cut > them off then re-start them. Anyone else happy with them???? > -- > Peace, > Mark Lucas > http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ > mjlucas@earthlink.net > PGP Public Key available on request > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:00:12 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Vincent Santamaria CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Vincent Santamaria wrote: > Nothing is more embarassing than riding down the road > with your blinker going for several blocks. ...Or dangerous gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Re: Left Coast Ride From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Jun 1997 21:36:42 -0500 Lines: 17 >>>>> "VS" == Vincent Santamaria writes: VS> Hey, don't be dissing on Florida. I like Florida. But pull out a map, take a look, and let what may remain of any pre-pubescent bathroom humor wander for about three hundredths of a second. B. Kliban (the cat guy) once drew a cartoon entitled "Map Filth" which showed a picture of the US with a speech balloon emanating from Washington, DC saying "Hey Europe, suck my Florida!" Crotch coast indeed. I don't want to think what that makes Texas. (Which is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% RH. People are starting to ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with extra armor. I hate it when they do that, because I never feel hot until they ask. And in another month it will be 45 on the slab in the morning. Sigh.) - J< (who desperately wants January's comfortable weather back) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:42:47 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Throttlemeister I just had a Throttlemeister installed on my '89 last week. I placed the control on order about 2 months ago. Had a nice talk with Del Fisher who is an owner of the machine that makes the Throttlemeister. Since the shop is about 20 minutes from where I work, he invited me over and installed it for me. I am very impressed with it. A bit pricey at $120 but I can see why they charge that amount. The unit is machined from stainless steel with a brass interior. Well engineered and well made. Del said that over 10 % of their business is making and selling the Throttlemeister. The unit has a groove on it with a red band in the groove. Del explained that it the color is from a 1/16 " wide piece of pin striping. Easy to change to any color you desire by picking up a piece of the pin striping. There is an excellent picture available on the Dutch PC site at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/foto/throttl1.jpg If anyone is interested in more information about the unit, I can get you a phone number and address. I am not soliciting for this product but only providing information for anyone interested. Anxious to try it out for an extended ride on my forthcoming trip to Eufaula, OK in less than 2 weeks. Looking forward to meeting all list members who will be there. Bob Rufener Hartford, WI -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WnL25667; Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:59:23 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:59:23 EDT I hit those signals about 3 times before the turn. On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:45:28 -0700 mickeymatt@clearnet.net (Matt Humphreys) writes: >Spencer Whatcott wrote: >> >> I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 > >Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I >alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every >couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! > >Matt Humphreys >mickeymatt@clearnet.net or mickeymatt@aol.com >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id WnM25667; Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:59:23 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net, PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:59:23 EDT If you do wire past the canceller, put a buzzer between the two hot leads (between left and right) and it will buzz with the current from either left or right and remind you to turn it off when done. On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:29:19 -0700 PILEWIS1 writes: >Matt Humphreys wrote: >> >> Spencer Whatcott wrote: >> > >> > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 >> >> Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am >I >> alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals >every >> couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! > >I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some >occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would >hate >to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be >selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. > > > >-- > ******************** >* * >* Phil Lewis * >* So-Cal * >* '90 PC * >* "Delta Red" * >* Enjoying The Ride! * >* Just turned 10,000 * >* * > ******************** >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XsE25667; Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:05:06 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ruf@nconnect.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Throttlemeister From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:05:06 EDT I don't want to seem like a wet blanket, but I have a bunch of rubber bands around the shaft between my throttle grip and the outside metal end thingy and it holds the throttle whereever I put it like my old Indian and to facilitate that I disconnected one of my throttle springs. It cost me ten minutes time and about 3 rubber bands. Voila! On Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:42:47 -0500 (CDT) ruf@nconnect.net writes: >I just had a Throttlemeister installed on my '89 last week. I placed >the >control on order about 2 months ago. Had a nice talk with Del Fisher >who is >an owner of the machine that makes the Throttlemeister. Since the shop >is >about 20 minutes from where I work, he invited me over and installed >it for me. > >I am very impressed with it. A bit pricey at $120 but I can see why >they >charge that amount. The unit is machined from stainless steel with a >brass >interior. Well engineered and well made. Del said that over 10 % of >their >business is making and selling the Throttlemeister. The unit has a >groove on >it with a red band in the groove. Del explained that it the color is >from a >1/16 " wide piece of pin striping. Easy to change to any color you >desire by >picking up a piece of the pin striping. > >There is an excellent picture available on the Dutch PC site at: >http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/foto/throttl1.jpg >If anyone is interested in more information about the unit, I can get >you a >phone number and address. I am not soliciting for this product but >only >providing information for anyone interested. > >Anxious to try it out for an extended ride on my forthcoming trip to >Eufaula, OK in less than 2 weeks. Looking forward to meeting all list >members who will be there. > >Bob Rufener >Hartford, WI > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA25713 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:18:29 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plates and things In a message dated 97-05-30 22:31:02 EDT, Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" wrote: << Hello All, Since we have discussed the price of plates in the various states, what about the plates themselves? Went through the process a couple of years ago of "naming" the bike. Some of the possible contenders were: (only allowed 6 characters in Iowa) fatbut wide1 tuprwr plastc nliten complx candy1 coastr toastr smooth stelth lilwng relwng litwng 2whls .... well, you get the idea. Finally decided on "escapn", as that is what I do on the bike. Any one have interesting or humorous plates out there? >> How about Illinois plate "MYPC 89"? If you see a guy on an '89 PC800, it's me! ---Tim Playing in Peoria -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: "James Hyder" , Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Metric U.S. Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:36:16 -0700 ---------- > From: James Hyder > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: Metric U.S. > Date: Monday, June 09, 1997 9:01 AM > > ** Reply to note from Poh Yu Seung Mon, 09 Jun 1997 18:47:20 +0800 > > By the way, could someone explain to me, in personal mail, why the US > > doesn't want to go metric when it wants to be the dominant free economy in > > the world? I've been brought up on metric and just can't understand why.... > > > The U.S. is a very insular and self-contained country. We are quite pleased > and proud that our TV shows and movies are watched all around the world, but > we would never dream of watching a show or movie from France or Germany, much > less India or Burma. Especially if it had those pesky subtitles. Our attitude > seems to be "Since we are the only remaining superpower, we don't have to pay > attention to the rest of world." The metric system is some strange and > foreign thing to people who feel this way. After living in Europe for several years, I agree that metric is the way to go, but not their TV shows. If I was told that hell was an eternal string of 'foreign' television programming, I'd try harder to be good. We ruthless capitalists would gladly 'pay attention to the rest of the world' if it made us a buck. PBS tried it. That's why they had to resort to the telethon. Spencer > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:16:13 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: mjlucas@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals --------------581C20E519E7 Mark Lucas wrote: > > I just really don't understand all this discussion about how bad the > turn signals are. I have a '95 and I rarely have to re-initiate the > signals, nor do I have to cut them off often. More often have to cut > them off then re-start them. Anyone else happy with them???? > -- > Peace, > Mark Lucas I have the same results on my 95. In fact, i find myself over correcting coming out of turns (leaning past straight up) to cancel them. It would probably make more sense just to thumb them off, but where's the fun in that? I've been stuck at some long left turn lights waiting for the pavement sensors to notice my plastic, and the t/s just kept clicking away. Alan --------------581C20E519E7 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------581C20E519E7-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BBZ08957; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:44:23 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Fuel Question From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:44:23 EDT On Sat, 7 Jun 97 01:18:30 UT "Paul Hayes" writes: >The rider gets to know these characteristics, moods, temperaments, much like a >close friend. You come to understand when the bike is "not feeling well" well before >the outward symptoms appear. You have a sense about how this bike wants to roll >through a turn, when the bike wants to get up and boogie - or seems tired. I know it >sounds strange, but it's a feeling I'm sure there's a sense of. > >Each of these bikes is an individual. BTW, perhaps I'm overly sensitive on this >subject, being one of triplets. I think Pauly's absolutely right on. On my Motorcycle Madness ride to Florida, I was riding south on I-84 thru southeastern Idaho towards Ogden, UT. It's a long, lonely stretch of road, exacerbated by February cold and very little traffic. The StealthMobile just didn't "feel good", and I noticed it right away. He was running well, but didn't seem as responsive as usual. And every 25-40 miles he would "hiccup". Not a major thing, but a missed beat in the otherwise silky sounding engine. Any other bike of mine in the past--I wouldn't have even taken note of it. But the StealthMobile's so reliable, so dependable, that when something like this occurs, I immediately take note. So I obsessed for the entire 150 miles, just knowing I was going to be stranded! After I stopped in Ogden and gassed up, the StealthMobile ran noticeably better without any more hiccuping. I surmised that it was probably a bad tank of gas. When I stopped in Burley the night before, it was at an extremely busy gas station. I figure that I may have sucked a tankful off the bottom of the underground tank. So it doesn't sound strange, Pauly, and the StealthMobile is definitely a close friend of mine whom I depend upon greatly. Talk to him often... But I've gotta ask: Do all three of you ride identical PCs? :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,725 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA29059 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:50:08 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC800 Turn Signals Hi Matt: In a message dated 97-06-09 07:47:01 EDT, you write: << Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am I alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals every couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! >> I suspect that you're are pretty much alone on this one, Matt, but I could be wrong. Fortunately there is room for a wide variety of preferences on this list. Anyway, I think the easiest way to disable the autocancel would be to disconnect the speed sensor. Look for a two-wire connector plug (white/black and green/black wires) on the back of the speedometer, and disconnect it. Without the pulses from that sensor, the autocancel controller should believe that the bike isn't moving, and that in turn should cause the controller to leave the signals flashing. I haven't tried this; so let us know if it works. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BsC24280; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:52:46 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mjlucas@earthlink.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:55:48 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I have a '96 and I love my self cancelling signals. As mentioned before they have also made me not look like a fool leaving them on too long. Now when you're in traffic, have turned on the signal and have moved over (within your lane) and are waiting for a vehicle to pass and then it cuts off prior to getting into that next lane causing me to re-initiate..............Yeah, I get a LITTLE bit perturbed, to say the least. But, that's trivial, because I still look good on my PC! The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and good weather!! Southern California, .................What a great place to live!!! On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 21:00:21 -0700 Mark Lucas writes: >I just really don't understand all this discussion about how bad the >turn signals are. I have a '95 and I rarely have to re-initiate the >signals, nor do I have to cut them off often. More often have to cut >them off then re-start them. Anyone else happy with them???? >-- >Peace, > Mark Lucas > http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ > mjlucas@earthlink.net > PGP Public Key available on request >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC800 Mailing List) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:36:25 -0400 Subject: PC800: Self-Cancelling In regards to the turn signals... I have a '95 that I bought in April, and I really like the self-cancelling turn signals. They have a pretty cool algorithm, because they will stay on forever when stopped at a light, they will turn off after you turn, and I found that they are just the right duration for a highway lane change. At first they would turn off too soon, or maybe I was turning them on too soon? Anyhow, I sometimes want to give the cagers advance notice, and end up turning them on again. I never realized how much I liked them until I went to the Kawasaki Ride Day last Saturday. After driving down a limited access highway at close to 100 mph, I glanced down to see that the signals were still on. Yup, I thought...I like the self cancellig tun signals ! bye for now.. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800), tibbs@hpc.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Re: Left Coast Ride <<" I don't want to think what that makes Texas. (Which is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% RH. People are starting to ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with extra armor. I hate it when they do that, because I never feel hot until they ask. And in another month it will be 45 on the slab in the morning. Sigh.)">> Hey Jason...Are you using Celsius? fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:28:46 -0500 (CDT) From: radarst@ix.netcom.com (Richard A Schuler) Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, I guess To: holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Paul, You asked about a comparison between the Pacific Coast and the ST because you may be looking for a PC for your wife. My name is Rich "Radar" Schuler and live not too far away in New Jersey. I am a member of both the STOC (#162) and the PC800 lists. I own a 1991 ST1100 with 33,000 miles on it and a 1990 Pacific Coast with 43,000 miles. I purchased both bikes new and do most of my own maintenance. So, I guess I might be qualified to attempt to answer your questions about the PC. As far as I am concerned the Pacific Coast is the Perfect All Around Motorcycle. The Ride, Handling, and Feel are absolutely the same as the ST. The PC is lighter, seat lower, and much easier for someone small in stature to ride, especially in the parking lot manuvers. Once on the road both bikes handle incredibly well and feel the same. The Pacific Coast is much more comfortable on the long haul than the ST. The handle bars are far more comfortable, higher and closer than the ST's allowing for a more comfortable upright riding position. Of course the ST accelerates a whole lot faster than the PC, but the PC is more than fast enough for any one except the jaded "go fast types". I have ridden my PC from Jersey to California and all over the Pacific Northwest two up and never felt the need for any more power, even while riding the twisty mountains in Washington State. Very truthfully, last weekend when my wife and I rode (two up) on the ST up to Killington, Vermont for the NESTOC rally, I would have preferred to be on the PC since it really is more comfortable. The cruising range of the Pacific Coast is its one drawback. The 4.2 gallon fuel tank doesn't come close to the ST. Gas mileage for me is normally about 48 to 51 mpg on the highway. I have had tanks as low as 42 and as high as 56 mpg under extreme conditions. I feel safe doing 150 miles between fill ups. But could probably push 200. The fuel gauge is off on all PC's. It shows empty at 125 miles, but has a gallon and a half left when refilled at 125. Last weekend I rode the ST non-stop from Bennington Vermont to Pennsauken NJ, 341.1 miles. That could not be done with the PC. The PC isn't too good in a cross wind, but then neither is the ST. When I changed to Metzler ML2 tires the bike became a lot more stable in the wind, but still, with all that plastic it isn't great. My PC has been pretty trouble free during its 43,000 miles. The big rear shock wore out at about 35,000 miles, but was replaced under warranty. Once it developed a minor coolant leak, which turned out to be a bad O-ring. That was also covered by Honda. It has NEVER failed to start or broken down on me. It still has its original brakes and battery. The Pacific Coast is FAR cheaper to maintain than the ST. There are NO VALVE ADJUSTMENTS to make like on the ST. Everything can be done easily yourself on the PC. I just finished tuning mine up for the season by changing oil, oil filter, air filter, rear gear oil, spark plugs, syncing the carbs, and flushing the brake and clutch fluids. The PC's air filter is priced HIGH like that on the ST and there is no after market replacement by K&N or anyone else. Touring with the PC is great. The trunk gives plenty of packing space. And if you have the upper spoiler that is a great spot to bungie a pack or bag. I believe the PC trunk is BIGGER than the ST's saddle bags. As far as price for a 2 or 3 year old bike I really don't know. I am likely going to put mine up for sale soon and it will probably be $4,000. And mine is a RED 1990, is in Mint Condition, always garage kept, maticulously maintained, and never been down. It has both upper and lower spoilers, scuff kit, back rest, and the Hondaline/Kenwood Stereo that is impossible to obtain. Hope this helps answer your questions. Ride Safe, Radar Current Mounts 1991 ST1100 33,000 miles 1990 PC 800 43,000 miles 1983 GL 650 120,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael Aguilar" To: Subject: PC800: New to the list (I hope). Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:10:00 -0700 Hi Everyone: I just sent my subscribe command, with all the problems I've been having with my email, I'm not sure if it is going to work. I ride a wineberry red 90 PC, with about 30K miles on it. Bought my bike used with 10K on the od., super clean, in 93. Talked the guy down from $4,200 to $3,700. The bike came with both the tall and original windshields, the backrest, saddlebag liners and mats. Since then I have installed the Honda radio, a Goldwing vent in the tall shield, Progressive fork springs with 10w oil, also had the forks drilled for drain plugs, adapted a Dynojet carb kit from an NT650 Hawk, partial steel braided lines up front, removed the CA smog junk, and added a throttle lock. I primarily use my bike for commuting, about 60 miles each weekday. It's been a great bike for that. I hate having to bungee cord things to my bike. It's so convenient to just open the trunk, drop your stuff and go. If I could just get rid of that annoying wind buffeting noise on the sides of my helmet, I would say the bike is perfect for what I do. Well, I'm going to wait and see if my email works before I start posting questions. Talk to everyone soon (I hope). Mike A. aggie@alphainfo.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:00:19 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Saint Laurent, Francois" , "pc800" , "Jason L Tibbitts III" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Re: Left Coast Ride Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:53:27 -0400 I wanted to ask the same question but thought that I had missed something. Vince ---------- > From: Saint Laurent, Francois > To: pc800 ; Jason L Tibbitts III > Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Re: Left Coast Ride > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 11:48 AM > > > > > > > <<" I don't want to think what that makes Texas. (Which > is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% RH. People are starting to > ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with extra armor. I hate it when they do > that, because I never feel hot until they ask. And in another month it > will be 45 on the slab in the morning. Sigh.)">> > > > Hey Jason...Are you using Celsius? > > > fsl > 95 PC800 > Waltzing Matilda > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:13:54 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Michael Aguilar" , Subject: Re: PC800: New to the list (I hope). Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:01:16 -0400 Michael, You can in L&C. Tell me about the drilling of your forks for drain plugs. Sound like a good idea. Vince---------- > > fork springs with 10w oil, also had the forks drilled for drain plugs, > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 13:25:29 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: ka2wij@earthlink.net Cc: mjlucas@earthlink.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals PC comrades, we need a new subject. I used the archive search engine and found: >From the service manual; 0 km/h - signals flash continuously 1 - 67 km/h - self-cancel after 108 - 132 m has been moved since the bike stopped turning. over 67 km/h - self-cancel after 6.3 - 7.7 seconds from time switch was actuated. It's my experience that they really do work as above. For better or worse. That's why they flash 7(?) times on a highway lane change. Let's hit the road and use them.:) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:30:30 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Warmlegs! Hi Everybody!! Well, I did it again, I added something new to "Delta Red!" My short legs just couldn't get into the heat stream easily enough, so I cut holes in the fairings, put in airconditioning vents, and routed some short ducting. It's not great, but it does give me a little warmth when the sun goes down. It will be interesting to see how much difference it makes come this winter. I may have to try and deflect more air into the ducts. As for the installation, I made up a page with mostly pictures. I think there are about 8 pictures, so it will take a little time to download, if your really curious how it looks and how I did it! :) I got the vents at a local junkyard for $5.00. It's one of those yards where you walk through the junk cars and take the parts off yourself. Then I bought the duct from the auto parts store for about $2.00. I think this is most inexpensive mod I've ever made. BTW, there isn't very much room to put in the ducts, so I had to move a little bit of stuff. I don't think it will have an effect, but I don't recommend trying this until I've had a chance to ride this around for a month or so. You can see the pictures at http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/WARMLEGS.HTM See Ya' -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:54:32 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Michael Aguilar CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: New to the list (I hope). Michael Aguilar wrote: > ...also had the forks drilled for drain plugs,... Why didn't we think of that?!?! gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA22647; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:54:11 -0400 (EDT) To: radarst@ix.netcom.com, holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: PC vs. ST Hello and welcome,. I guess I'll add my .02... to the ST vs. PC discussion. I bought my '94 PC last year with about 1900 miles on it. It now has about 23K so quite a bit of time has been spent in the saddle. I have put Progressive Springs in the front and am considering upgrading the rear shocks as well but I digress.... I just had the pleasure of spending the weekend with Steve Shane and his SO (Stephanie). He on a '91 ST. Steve was kind enough to suggest we switch mounts during our cruise through the Southern OH and Northern WV twisties. After about 40 miles on the ST I can say that I wasn't compelled to find a for sale sign for the PC. While the ST is much more powerful and geared lower in the upper ranges ( I saw 125mph at @6000 rpm with nary a funny feeling, which was funny itself) the PC is sooooooo damn smooth that the minor vibrations of the ST were apparent. It also seemed to be quicker off the line, but not for twice the money. Had I never riden the PC, the ST would be great. However, for $4000, I got a great, fun ride that keeps on keepin on..... TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:46:55 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: Self-Cancelling Turn Signals To: PC800 List The PC's self-cancelling turn signals are an obvious ploy on Honda's beha= lf to build buyer loyalty to the PC. I, for one, have become so used to them= that I dread the thought of getting a different bike. . . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:46:53 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: Metric To: PC800 List Jason wrote: >>Crotch coast indeed. I don't want to think what that makes >>Texas. (Which is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% >>RH. People are starting to ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with >>extra armor. I hate it when they do that, because I never feel >>hot until they ask. And in another month it will be 45 on the >>slab in the morning. Sigh.) 30? 45? An American voluntarily and without provocation using Metric? Has= the List officially gone Metric? Yahooo! = Speaking as a Canadian whose school class (Grade 9) was the first to be fully taught in SI (meaning all my older brother's textbooks were USELESS= , and we had to throw away all the Imperial stuff we had learned in earlier= grades) I say - IT'S NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL! IF CANADA CAN DO IT, ANYONE CAN= ! GET WITH THE PROGRAM! EVEN THE BRITISH, WHO INVENTED THE $&$%&$(#*#$ IMPERIAL SYSTEM, HAVE ABANDONED IT! = Steve Schibuola Huntington Beach, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:47:14 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Rocky E Rocheux CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > I hit those signals about 3 times before the turn. > On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:45:28 -0700 mickeymatt@clearnet.net (Matt > Similar comments from several PC owners have given me the idea that Honda left off the self-cancelling signals from the '97's just because of these complaints. I have had two different PC's ('89&'96) and have had no pre-self-cancelling. I punch it, drive up to the turn, turn, and within a couple of seconds it switches itself off. If I punch it and don't turn or have a wide sweeping turn, (like an eight lane intersection) it won't turn off and I have to cancel it myself. BTW I finally found the reference on how the sef-cancelling part of the turn signal works. You can read about it at the PC 800 web page as the top item of the segment of PC 800 Trivia. As you will read, it triggers off an optical sensor on the front wheel. No pendulum, but there is a timer involved, but then only at speed. Complicated. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2806 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:05:34 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Michael Aguilar CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New to the list (I hope). Michael Aguilar wrote: > I ride a wineberry red 90 PC, with about 30K miles on it. Bought my bike > used with 10K on the od., super clean, in 93. Talked the guy down from > $4,200 to $3,700. The bike came with both the tall and original > windshields, the backrest, saddlebag liners and mats. Wow! Great buy! > Since then I have > installed the Honda radio, a Goldwing vent in the tall shield, Progressive > fork springs with 10w oil, also had the forks drilled for drain plugs, > adapted a Dynojet carb kit from an NT650 Hawk, partial steel braided lines > up front, removed the CA smog junk, and added a throttle lock. Not much else to do. Question: How well does the Goldwing windshield vent work and how did you put it in without breaking the shield? > -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2806 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:23:18 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Steve Schibuola CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Metric Steve Schibuola wrote: > > Jason wrote: > > >>Crotch coast indeed. I don't want to think what that makes > >>Texas. (Which is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% > >>RH. People are starting to ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with > >>extra armor. I hate it when they do that, because I never feel > >>hot until they ask. And in another month it will be 45 on the > >>slab in the morning. Sigh.) > > 30? 45? An American voluntarily and without provocation using Metric? Has > the List officially gone Metric? Yahooo! > > Speaking as a Canadian whose school class (Grade 9) was the first to be > fully taught in SI (meaning all my older brother's textbooks were USELESS, > and we had to throw away all the Imperial stuff we had learned in earlier > grades) I say - IT'S NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL! IF CANADA CAN DO IT, ANYONE CAN! > GET WITH THE PROGRAM! EVEN THE BRITISH, WHO INVENTED THE $&$%&$(#*#$ > IMPERIAL SYSTEM, HAVE ABANDONED IT! > Oh pipe down Steve. You're just glad that you can use all that SI learning you got in Canada once more in this lifetime. ;) FWIW I kinda wish we were metric too. I do most of my building projects in metric. It's a WHOLE lot easier than fractions. Lessee 32 and 1/2 plus 23 and 7/16th plus 9 and 15/16th equals...65 and 7/8th inches which is...five feet... five inches... aaaand just a little short of six inches.... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2615 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA05046 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Wisconsin PC Ride--Changes and Detail... Hi All! The Wisconsin PC Ride is coming up on us very soon now (Saturday, June 28th), even though the ride has been in planning for 6 months! The ride does not conflict with any known rallies, although it does happen the weekend after two local rallies. We've opened the ride to any cyclists at all, including the Wisconsin HSTA and everyone else. In my abscence (as I am in the Dominican Republic until Saturday!!!) another cyclist friend of mine took the liberty to completely organize the trip. There are a lot of changes, so if you are interested in joining us, check out the web page. If you don't have WWW access, let me know, and I'll e-mail you the route and meeting information. In particular, for those individuals who would like to participate, we're also going to include a mini-poker aspect during the ride. The Web Site (all information, few grapics)... http://members.aol.com/christuba/pc800.htm Thanks, Chris Russell 1996 PC800 http://members.aol.com/christuba -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:11:28 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Throttlemeister I'm not real excited about anything that would hold a throttle on if I (gasp!) went down at speed....and this rubber band thingy sounds downright deadly.....other opinions? Rocky E Rocheux wrote: > > I don't want to seem like a wet blanket, but I have a bunch of rubber > bands around the shaft between my throttle grip and the outside metal end > thingy and it holds the throttle whereever I put it like my old Indian > and to facilitate that I disconnected one of my throttle springs. It > cost me ten minutes time and about 3 rubber bands. Voila! -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ mjlucas@earthlink.net PGP Public Key available on request -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TSK12599; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:51:45 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC v. ST... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:51:45 EDT On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:28:46 -0500 (CDT) radarst@ix.netcom.com (Richard A Schuler) wrote about the PC v. ST: I just wanted to pass on my kudos for what seems to be the most concise and informative comparison that I've seen on this subject. As an "old timer" (more than 2 years) on this list, the questions of PC v. ST seems to come up with as much regularity as windshields, seats, shocks, etc. We should put Radar's contribution in the archives and point a BIG ARROW at it for future reference when the question comes up again...as we know it will! JMHO, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,725 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 97 17:00:44 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: shw@thevision.net, rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Cc: Akoell@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Deerskin Gloves I also have Thurlow's gloves and they are great for comfort. Also, being a small handed woman, I found gloves that fit hard to find. You can draw around your hand and they will custom make gloves to fit you. Not something most companys do anymore. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Deerskin Gloves Author: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 5/26/97 10:40 PM I got a pair of warm weather perforated deerskin gloves from "Thurlow Leatherworld" last October. Contrary to your statement, deerskin has MORE abrasion resistance that cowskin - at least that is what Thurlow claims and I've read that in the past from other sources also. The gloves are soft and comfortable. Thurlow never puts seams on the palms. Thurlow also claims a 30% greater comfort range for deerskin than for other leathers, i.e., "warmer when it's cold, cooler when it's warm." You can contact them at: THURLOW LEATHERWORLD, 4807 Mercury Street, San Diego, CA 92111 (619) 279-9004. They have a good brochure which they will send you. They are usually advertised in "RIDER." Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:15:05 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, I guess To: PC800 List Hi, Richard. Thanks for the thoughtful (and PC-flattering) comparison of the of the PC and ST. I just hope you didn't cross-post it to the ST list= (or, if you did, that you're wearing your flame-proof outfit) Steve Schibuola Huntington Beach, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Metric From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Jun 1997 19:22:12 -0500 Lines: 18 >>>>> "SS" == Steve Schibuola writes: SS> 30? 45? An American voluntarily and without provocation using Metric? I have a degree in Mathematics. Beauty in numbers pleases me. While 10 isn't the base I'd choose if creating the universe again (I'd choose 60) I at least believe in choosing a base and sticking to it. BTW, I prefer Celsius because 1) it makes more sense to be too cold at 0 and too hot at 50 than 30-something and 120-something and 2) so I can understand my relatives in Norway when they tell me that it got up to 15 last weekend and everybody went nuts sunbathing. Plus it helps me understand the temperature numbers in my PC shop manual without having to consult the numbers in parentheses. But I will admit to having no intrinsic understanding of what a Newton-meter means. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: "Michael Aguilar" , Subject: Re: PC800: New to the list (I hope). Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 17:38:54 -0700 Bought my '90 in '93 also. Had 6K, now has 28K. It's been perfect, but you beat me on the modifications. Has the Dynojet carb made a difference? Spencer ---------- > From: Michael Aguilar > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: New to the list (I hope). > Date: Monday, June 09, 1997 10:10 PM > > Hi Everyone: > > I just sent my subscribe command, with all the problems I've been having > with my email, I'm not sure if it is going to work. > > I ride a wineberry red 90 PC, with about 30K miles on it. Bought my bike > used with 10K on the od., super clean, in 93. Talked the guy down from > $4,200 to $3,700. The bike came with both the tall and original > windshields, the backrest, saddlebag liners and mats. Since then I have > installed the Honda radio, a Goldwing vent in the tall shield, Progressive > fork springs with 10w oil, also had the forks drilled for drain plugs, > adapted a Dynojet carb kit from an NT650 Hawk, partial steel braided lines > up front, removed the CA smog junk, and added a throttle lock. > > I primarily use my bike for commuting, about 60 miles each weekday. It's > been a great bike for that. I hate having to bungee cord things to my > bike. It's so convenient to just open the trunk, drop your stuff and go. > If I could just get rid of that annoying wind buffeting noise on the sides > of my helmet, I would say the bike is perfect for what I do. > > Well, I'm going to wait and see if my email works before I start posting > questions. Talk to everyone soon (I hope). > > Mike A. > aggie@alphainfo.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout27.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA00496 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:31:23 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A question about the list server Jason, I'm going to ask you this question in the public forum, because I think it is something that a few of us would like to know. It's been a while since I posted a message (two today, however), and in the past I was always sent a copy of the message I wrote. This time, I didn't receive a copy. I'm not complaining, in fact, I'd like to laud that! Is this a change in the server where it doesn't send you a copy of your own message? Thanks, Chris Russell 1996 PC800 http://members.aol.com/christuba you may now return to your normally scheduled program of PC discussion... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:56:57 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Gerard Diepeveen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Silver PC800!!!!! Gerard Diepeveen wrote: > > Hi all, I have somthing you maybe never have seen before, a silver PC800 and > it has not been repainted. > It's a Japanese model and his owner is Duncan Ong form Singapore. > If you want to know what it's look like, go an have a look at our pictures > page, it's says: Silver bullet from Duncan Ong. CLASSY! It looks like it has to add at least $5000 to the price!! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:45:44 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: new www page design in the works hi all. well, thanks to Gerard in Denmak, Mark Skrocki, Neill, Barre and myself, we have what looks to be a good revamp of the PC www page. please visit: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800usa/ and let me know what you all think. we have some tweeking and coding to do, but I love where it's headed!!! thanks to all who participate!!!!! -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:40:59 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: [Fwd: Re: hi duncan] hi gang. The mysterious Silver PC DOES exist!!!!! subject: Re: hi duncan Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:27:39 +0700 From: throttle@pacific.net.sg To: dkgross@halcyon.com Hello Dave, I'm not too sure whether its only available in Japan but my PC8 is a Jap model. In fact I too was shocked when my dealer told me that he had brought in 3 silver ones from Japan. (never knew they come in silver) My owner's manual and all the other stuff are printed in Japanese and I can't read Japanese. So I had to borrow a friend's. He's riding the red '96 . Yes , I've heard of the electric blue one and even a green one too! Everything else on my PC8 is the same as the others except maybe the speedometer which is in km/hr and tops only at 190km/hr. duncan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:06:55 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Honda of Australia I'm searchin the world for PC info. Looks like they don't even offer them down under. but they have a few bikes WE don't. check out the 600cc Shadow!!!! http://www.hondampe.com.au/bikes.html -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:30:34 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: PC800: New page great work, guys!!!!! New page looks incredible! -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA '90 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael Aguilar" To: "Vincent Santamaria" , Subject: PC800: Fork Drain Plugs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:25:11 -0700 Hi Vince and other listers, Looks like my email works, thanks for your response. About my drain plugs, after buying the bike I thought the front end was too soft. Not having the time to work on my bike myself, I paid a friend to change the spings and oil in the forks. After he informed me that the forks had to be removed to get all of the oil out, I thought that was crazy. I know you could probably siphon or vacuum it out, but what a hassle. Being that my other bike is a Hawk NT650, I noticed that the casing of the fork lowers were very similar in appearance, and where the Hawk had drain plugs the PC had a flat bare areas that looked like it could be drilled and tapped. Since my friend had a better drill and tap set, I asked if he could drill and tap the holes and put in Hawk plugs. He had no real problems doing the job, just a small leak at first due to a crimped brass washer. Replace the washer and retighten plug. No leak. I have probably close to 15K miles of riding with this mod with no problems or leaks. Its about time to change the oil in the forks, which I haven't done since the mod, but I don't expect any problems. I'll let the list know if I do. Mike A. aggie@alphainfo.com ---------- > From: Vincent Santamaria > To: Michael Aguilar ; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: New to the list (I hope). > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 9:01 AM > > Michael, You can in L&C. > Tell me about the drilling of your forks for drain plugs. Sound like a good > idea. > Vince---------- > > > > fork springs with 10w oil, also had the forks drilled for drain plugs, > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 02:38:57 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: wow ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: [Fwd: Re: hi duncan] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:19:54 +0800 (HKT) From: pckwong@hkusua.hku.hk (VR2XVI) To: dkgross@halcyon.com > > hi gang. The mysterious Silver PC DOES exist!!!!! And charcoal grey also. Besides the speedo difference, seat is different, got a strap cross the passenger's seat, and the fairing sticker is different too, the word "HONDA" is smaller, with one more line "sport tourer" under. For lights, rear running light is different - lacking the middle one. This also can be found on Japanese Edition Gold Wings, because of the regulations. -- -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:56:35 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Re: Metric Jason L Tibbits III wrote : <<" But I will admit to having no intrinsic understanding of what a Newton-meter means.">> That's easy Jason! Please allow a Canadian to explain this for you. A Newton-meter is a very sophistictaed measuring device used by environmental impact analysts to determine the amount of Newts in any particular pond or lake. The last three letters of Newton depict that this particular instrument measures in tons. (It is most likely used for large lakes and ponds.) There are also Newtpound and Newtounce meters. The smallest and most delicate of these instruments is the Fig-Newton. It is used to determine the total amount of Newts on a single floating Fig leaf. I hope this helps. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ------ Message Header Follows ------ (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) nations.nationscredit.com mag1.magmacom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14109 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:18:19 -0400 (EDT) sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13799; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:22:21 -0500 (CDT) 22:03:07)); Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:22:18 -0500 (CDT) TAA13783; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:22:13 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Re: Metric From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date:Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:22:12 -0400 Lines: 18 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:17:38 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC v. ST... Timothy B Macy wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:28:46 -0500 (CDT) radarst@ix.netcom.com (Richard A > Schuler) wrote about the PC v. ST: > > I just wanted to pass on my kudos for what seems to be the most concise > and informative comparison that I've seen on this subject. I must agree!! I'm gonna have to try out an ST one of these days. And it brings up maybe a new thread on gas quantity. Has anyone considered a completely safe way of adding an axillary gallon or two of gas, carried in our trunk? I'm thinking of maybe a small battery powered pump that would fill the main tank from the trunk while we ride. Any other ideas? I just thought we could use a new thread! :) -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:26:31 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: Steve Schibuola , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Metric Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > Steve Schibuola wrote: > > > > Jason wrote: > > > > >>Crotch coast indeed. I don't want to think what that makes > > >>Texas. (Which is poking over 30 in the mornings now, at 90% > > >>RH. People are starting to ask me if I'm hot in my 'stich with > > >>extra armor. I hate it when they do that, because I never feel > > >>hot until they ask. And in another month it will be 45 on the > > >>slab in the morning. Sigh.) > > > > 30? 45? An American voluntarily and without provocation using Metric? Has > > the List officially gone Metric? Yahooo! > > Oh pipe down Steve. You're just glad that you can use all that SI > learning you got in Canada once more in this lifetime. ;) > > FWIW I kinda wish we were metric too. I do most of my building projects > in metric. It's a WHOLE lot easier than fractions. Lessee 32 and 1/2 > plus 23 and 7/16th plus 9 and 15/16th equals...65 and 7/8th inches which > is...five feet... five inches... aaaand just a little short of six > inches.... My airspeed indicator is in "knots." Does that count?? :) -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:36:35 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: new www page design in the works ** Reply to note from Dave Gross Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:45:44 -0800 > well, thanks to Gerard in Denmak, Mark Skrocki, Neill, Barre and myself, we > have what looks to be a good revamp of the PC www page. please visit: > > http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800usa/ > > and let me know what you all think. we have some tweeking and coding to do, > but I love where it's headed!!! > > thanks to all who participate!!!!! Great job! (I'm sitting here listening to the engine sound now! Is it actually a PC engine or a clip from a generic source?) Only one question: will the site remain on Gerard's Netherlands server, or be located (or mirrored) somewhere in the U.S? My response time to/from NL is a little slow. Keep up the good work. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA00359; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:49:56 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:49:56 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Genuine moto content To: slgross@halcyon.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Steve Gross wrote: > >The odometer crossed over 50,000 on the way home yesterday. I picked it >up with 18k in September 1994. Not bad for a guy with a full time job >and a no chance for more than a week's vacation at a time.... > Steve, It's nice to hear about someone else who actually has a full-time job and can't go on six-week cross-country jaunts and make all the Hoots and STAR's, etc. Makes me feel a little better. Thanks. Ride when you can. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:12:22 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: new www page design in the works glad ya like it james...the sound is MY 89 PurlGurl in my garage :>) We'll be moving the pages to the US server asap. we're still figuring out WHICH server that will be, as well as working on a PC800.org INTERNIC name.... Gerard was kind enough to help design some of the pages...as you've noticed, the links aren't hooked up yet :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA08807; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:01:47 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:01:47 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Left Coast Ride To: "Gregg L. DesElms" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Greg DesElms wrote: > >The overnight she booked was a weird, but fun, interesting and -- most of >all -- INTERESTING. (But also weird. Did I mention "weird?" Geez, it was >very weird.) I can't remember the name of it, but I'm >sure someone on this list will tell you its name. It's the Madonna Inn in San Luis Obispo, and the highlight of the place is the Men's Restroom in the restaurant (I'm not kidding!). I won't be graphic enough to explain why, but women and kids post lookouts and go in for the "interactive experience" and the view when it's not occupied. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NGE07214; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:29:02 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: BJStrass@worldnet.att.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:42:55 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Windshield option soon? From: chargerblue@juno.com (Samuel Davis III) I hit this guy up as well just to get some more PC products in the market! You never can have enough when it comes to our ride!! Anyway, everything was as you mentioned except that he was saying he was looking forward to having something out before the season was over. Something about a rider and testing of the shield. Understandably so. I don't want no junk coming out for my bike. the shield was going to be sizable where you order it according to your size like Rifle. Here's to a new shield coming out before seasons end!! Sammy D The San Diego Chargers, my Honda Pacific Coast and good weather!! Southern California,..................what a great place to live!! On Wed, 04 Jun 1997 06:31:38 +0000 BJ Strass writes: >Yesterday I spoke to Craig (I think that was his name) at Clearview >Shields in CO. They make a super nice windshield for the ST1100 that >looks much nicer than the Honda or the Rifle. It is very similar to >the >shield on my old 85 BMW K100 RT which was great. > >Anyway I pressed for a similar one for the PC. He stated they hoped >to >have one ready in about a month but realisticly it would be 2-3 >months. >I mentioned the email list and he stated he would like to hear from >avid >PC owners to see what they want. He also mentioned the possibility of >other accessories specifically for the PC. > >They are not on the net so call them and show support for our PC's at >1 >800 798 6089 or snail mail at P.O. Box 747, Bailey CO. 80412. > >They have a small ad in Motorcyclist mag if you want to see their >ST1100 >shield. > >BJ Strass >Sacramento, CA >--------------------- >'90 PC 800 (ROSEBUD) >(if only Citizen Caine had a sled like this!) >--------------------- >"Indecision may or may not be my problem!" > -Jimmy Buffet >-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA21692; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:42:40 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:42:40 -0500 (CDT) From: radarst@ix.netcom.com (Richard A Schuler) Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, I guess To: Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >I also have '90 PC. You described your PC as the ultimate machine but >concluded by saying you're going to sell it? Why? I'm curious. > >Spencer > >---------- Hi, Good question. Well, I do like the big fuel tank on the ST. And since my wife and I are going to ride two up from New Jersey to California in July, then go to the WESTOC rally in Missoula, Montana on our return, we really should be on the ST. Also, I am currently looking for a 250 Rebel for my wife to begin riding and I don't have room in my garage for a fourth bike. I could sell my old Silver Wing, but with 120K it wouldn't bring much; and besides that would be like selling a my first born. Someday I will purchase another new Pacific Coast when my wife graduates to a bike that size. I thoroughly enjoy my Pacific Coast and will miss it very much considering how much easier it is to ride on local runs and traveling back and forth to work. Ride Safe, Radar Current Mounts 1991 ST1100 - 33,000 miles 1990 PC 800 - 43,000 miles 1983 GL 650 - 120,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA08803; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:55:25 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:55:25 -0500 (CDT) From: radarst@ix.netcom.com (Richard A Schuler) Subject: PC800: Re: Spoilers & Scuff Kit To: RJ1Fox@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >I'm relativly new to the PC scene and saw your email. Can you detail for me >what you mean by "both upper and lower spoilers" and "skuff kit"? > >Thanks, >Richard > Hi Richard, The upper and lower spoilers are original Honda options that I had installed when I purchased my PC. I really don't know if they are still available. I'm sure others on the list with newer PC's will know. In any case, the lower spoiler is a silver color matched skirt that wraps around and mounts the below the trunk. It extends down to about three inches below the license plate and really dresses up the look of the bike, in my opinion. And it, supposedly, aids the flow of air passing under the bike. The upper spoiler is much like the spoilers that are mounted on many automobile trunk lids. On the PC it bolts to either side of the trunk lid and extends rearward like a shelf the same height as the raised portion of the trunk lid behind the seat. It looks great and is strong enough to help support a bag, as long as you take caution not to scratch it. The scuff kit is a set of clear vinyl self adhesive pieces custom made to stick on the PC at places on the bike that may commonly be struck by feet, knees, stones, etc. Ride Safe, Radar Current Mounts 1991 ST1100 - 33,000 miles 1990 PC 800 - 43,000 miles 1983 GL 650 - 120,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gordon Gazaway To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC v. ST... Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:27:07 -0700 Phil wrote: > And it brings up maybe a new thread on gas quantity. Has anyone > considered a completely safe way of adding an axillary gallon or two > of > gas, carried in our trunk? I'm thinking of maybe a small battery > powered pump that would fill the main tank from the trunk while we > ride. Any other ideas? > A while back I remember reading about a tank for a cruiser type bike (I think it was in "Rider") that looked like a leather bag and mounted in front of the handle bars above the headlight. As I recall it held about 1 gal and was a gravity feed into the regular tank when it got below a certain level. Should be able to mount it somewhere given the height of the tank in the PC. Gordon Gazaway -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:42:42 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Gordon Gazaway CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC v. ST... Gordon Gazaway wrote: > > > A while back I remember reading about a tank for a cruiser type > bike (I think it was in "Rider") that looked like a leather bag and > mounted in front of the handle bars above the headlight. As I recall it > held about 1 gal and was a gravity feed into the regular tank when it > got below a certain level. Should be able to mount it somewhere given > the height of the tank in the PC. > > Gordon Gazaway Now that sounds like a good idea. Maybe a permanent hose installation, and then it could be hooked up to a gravity feed fuel container mounted high, like maybe in a GIVI. The aux tank would only be taken along on those long rides when it would be nice to have some extra cruising fuel. The "temp" tank would have to be mounted sturdily with proper venting. Even a one gallon container would give us an extra 40 to 50 miles. Interesting idea. -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: new www page design in the works From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1997 15:11:01 -0500 Lines: 24 >>>>> "DG" == Dave Gross writes: DG> [...] as well as working on a PC800.org INTERNIC name.... Crap. OK, I pushed a bit more and here's the deal. Unfortunately, while I control more name servers than anyone else on campus, I do not control the campus root name server and unfortunately the InterNIC will not allow any of my nameservers to serve pc800.com because they're all located underneath uh.edu. So I bugged the guy who owns uh.edu and he doesn't want to get involved with non-University domains. What this means: I can't provide name service for pc800.com. (Using com is fine with InterNIC, by the way.) Now, I can still provide services for pc800.com once my personal machine comes in at my new office. Perhaps once I get the new apache running I can even provide the web server space as next week. But someone else will have to provide the name service. Sorry for stringing everyone along with this. BTW, the page looks fantastic. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: A question about the list server From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1997 15:16:01 -0500 Lines: 13 >>>>> "C" == ChrisTUBA writes: C> This time, I didn't receive a copy. I'm not complaining, in fact, I'd C> like to laud that! Is this a change in the server where it doesn't send C> you a copy of your own message? Nope, the server should still always send you a copy. But since you're on the other side of AOL, and AOL's gateways have been having problems for quite a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if you lost the occasional message. If I knew the message-id, I could track it down to the point where AOL accepted it and promised to deliver it to you. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:00:40 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Michael Aguilar" , Subject: PC800: Re: Fork Drain Plugs Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:04:54 -0400 Thanks for the info. Vince ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 16:44:05 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Richard A Schuler CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, I guess --------------660048667967 > Also, I am currently looking for a 250 Rebel for my wife to begin > riding and I don't have room in my garage for a fourth bike. Someday I will > purchase another new Pacific Coast when my wife graduates to a bike > that size. > > Ride Safe, > Radar Please reconsider the Rebel for your wife. although it is low, and very sexy, it is not a good bike to learn on. I helped 2 girlfreinds learn to ride and sent both for MSF cousrses. both bought rebels, a 450 and a 250, and both laid them down. the G/F that I ended up marrying, sideswiped a truck and went down within 4 hours of getting hers. the next day she over controlled a turn in a mall parking lot and went down again. I later went down on the same bike during a hard stop, something I know I would have handled easily with my GL500. The steering on the rebel is way to sensitive for a beginner, and the seating angle detracts from the riders vision and handling. If she can handle it i.e. tall enough, , an old CB400 Hawk is a much better beginners bike. Also, if she does drop it, it's no big deal. Don't worry about engine size. overall weight, and seat height are the really important factors. Even on the CM250, she's unlikely to go full throttle for a while, but when she is, the 250 won't have it. With a bigger engined bike, she will still go slowly, but have room to grow. my .02 Alan --------------660048667967 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------660048667967-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:11:06 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: PC800: test message To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu sorry for the test ... i do not know if my email is getting out ... i sent two messages to the list ... and one to the list owner ... the two to the list never showed up ... and the list owner never responded ... seem to receive ok though .. so once again sorry for the test ... hope to see people at the hoot ... anyone wearing a johan shirt down there ... grace and i are thinking about it ... we really like them :) bob and grace parker http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:24:58 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:22:31 -0700 From: mickeymatt@clearnet.net (Matt Humphreys) To: PC800 List Server Subject: PC800: Random Thoughts I don't write much, but had an observation I'd like to share. I am 5'6", and find the PC a little top heavy, especially when backing in to my parking spot, which is a little up hill and on gravel. My observation is I struggle when doing the task with my 'Timberland' style workboots (which are steel toe, dont' think that matters) which have a fairly flat bottom. But with my hiking boots (lots of knobbies, maybe a half inch taller) it is absolutely no problem at all!! I also find myself much more sure footed at stops with my hiking boots on. I guess I'm saying finding the right pair of riding boots can make things a little more 'sure footed' and easier. Another observation, my friends new black Valkyrie Tourer is actually easier to set upright from the side stand than the PC!!! My vote is seat height and center of gravity are the reasons. (He said I could ride it, but I declined. What am I nuts?!?!?) Sorry for rambling... -- Matt Humphreys mickeymatt@aol.com -or- mickeymatt@clearnet.net RR3 Box 150-B, Philipsburg, PA 16866 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: test message From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1997 22:06:52 -0500 Lines: 9 >>>>> "BaG" == Bob and Grace writes: BaG> and the list owner never responded ... seem to receive ok though .. The list owner is busy. I see large numbers of messages outgoing to you and only one incoming from you (the one I'm responding to) in this week's mail logs. I can check back further if you like. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:19:05 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: new www page design in the works >>Now, I can still provide services for pc800.com once my personal machine comes in at my new office. Perhaps once I get the new apache running I can even provide the web server space as next week. But someone else will have to provide the name service. Sorry for stringing everyone along with this. -- what does that mean? I'm not sure what the chain of events is that needs to be followed... Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: new www page design in the works From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Jun 1997 23:29:47 -0500 Lines: 11 >>>>> "DG" == Dave Gross writes: [I can't do name service] DG> what does that mean? Somebody else, who has two second level domain servers under their control or a friendly ISP, needs to visit www.internic.com and register the name. I simply can't do it. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BMR03356; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:13:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:09:19 -0700 Subject: PC800: I'm Published! From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Got the July '97 issue of American Motorcyclist (the AMA's publication) a few days ago. They published my letter! (Of course, I glorified the PC800...!) Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,800 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BMQ03356; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:13:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:05:07 -0700 Subject: PC800: Xtra Mile Tank... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Gordon Gazaway wrote: > A while back I remember reading about a tank for a cruiser type bike (I think it was in >"Rider") that looked like a leather bag and mounted in front of the handle bars above >the headlight. As I recall it held about 1 gal and was a gravity feed into the regular >tank when it got below a certain level. Should be able to mount it somewhere given >the height of the tank in the PC. What Gordon saw was probably the following: · X-Tra Mile Tank. Retail: $189.00 Tankworks P.O. Box 17454 Long Beach, CA 90807-7454 I've put together a list of m/c accessories in a Word file (for various and nefarious uses), and I remembered seeing what Gordon was referring to in that list. Hope that helps... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,800 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BMS03356; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:13:00 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:12:11 -0700 Subject: PC800: Gordon Golder Heading West... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:58:28 +0000 Gordon Golder writes: >Will be leaving on Monday 6/9, heading out of Grand Rapids, MI then on I 80 and up >to Columbus Nebraska to check out the Saeng windshield protector. Might get >some. Then I will follow US 30 west, maybe detouring as I go. Will end up very close >to Mt. Diablo in California where I will stay for a few days and then return by whatever >route suits my fancy. Any good places to meet other pc'ers for coffee along the way. >Please e-mail me with suggestions and how to contact you when I'm in your area. > >Gordon riding Rainbow! Has anyone heard from Gordon? I wanted to e-mail him before he left, and I (Gasp!) read his message the day he left! Let me know...I'd like to contact him. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,800 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:25:20 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Newbie, I guess To: "INTERNET:holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu" , "Fellow PC800's" paul -- welcome....and in response your wife will probably love a PC.... as for $$$$ they are surprisingly holding their value....about a month= ago Honda/Kaw/Yam of Middletown had a 90 pc800 in with about 12k miles on= it he was asking 4000....whats funny is that 1 it sold a couple days late= r and 2 is that in 94 i bought mine from there and got it for 3800 and it h= ad 10k miles.on it I love my PC it got me to Alaska and acrooss canada and out to strugis and....still going at 50,000.... Has your wife had a chance to ride one.... I have been thinking about getting a ST....shhh don't say that to loud (grin) the guys on the list will hog tie an rope me to the pig roaster and flame me to the bone....(typed with toung in cheek) as for not having ridden one yet....up for a sunday ride....trade you for= a few miles??? Fireman Joe Beresford Cincinnati, Ohio 90pc800 check out --->http://members.aol.com/hstawww/index.html for more links and cool stuff on Honda places people and pics... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:25:11 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: fast cookie jar To: "INTERNET:pohys@singnet.com.sg" , "Fellow PC800's" because we cant understand it...>> I mean we have to convert to these formula and you know us yanks....ain'= t good in math..... I guess if the schools would have started doing it that way a long time a= go it would've caught on...but I think it boils down to way back to the pilgrims they wanted to create a new and unique country...in AMERICA...an= wanted to be different..then the bOSton tea party..and the overthrow of t= he british rulle...and then you know the country went into debt...and stillis..... grin Fireman Joe Beresford- = Time-Warner Cable Communications cincinnati, ohio 90 PC800 visit the Honda Sport Touring Association=3D=3D=3Dhttp://members.aol.com/hstawww/index.html -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:25:08 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Aerostitch??? To: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr ok gang here's a nother thread question....to have some fun with.... Since lots of y'all have a aerostitch suits.. =2E...........whats your preferences??? 1- One piece or two??? 2- loose fit???? 3- options like pouches,-- recommend what????? 4- color prefs??-- more visiability or match the bikes??? 5- comfortability??? are you??? in all types of weather??? 6- waterproof...?? have you had to add any more waterproofi= ng treatment??? I have been visiting the web-site for aerostitch and since I got this n= ew credit card and my leathers have gotten snug and drying out...and my rain-suit bit the dust on the way home from Twistar.... I like kevlar the idea of being bullet-proof is coool....(GRIN) I Know --not!!!.... ok if this is a tired thread I'M SORRY!!!! -grin- = Fireman_Joe Cincinnati, Ohio 90 PC800=3D/hsta/ama/hrca/=3D = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 01:25:13 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: cute picture site.... To: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr hey guys found this cute/fun little website with some pics of bikes..... http://ashton.lib.dixie.edu/~camron/bullet.html if you bored... I found it on a yahoo search on the word HONDA....about hit number 240 of 750 sites.... i just checked out some good' handy work at trying to create a new image= for a usa pc-800 site at http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pc800usa/ created by the Gerard Diepeveen, PCN 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ fireman joe so check it out...... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:25:43 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Joe Beresford CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Warmlegs! Joe Beresford wrote: > ??? whats the backpack on the rear??? aint seen that before???? For Joe, and any others who are new to the list, I added a fairly inexpensive rear bag to my PC back in March of this year. Most of you have seen it, but for those who haven't, you can see it http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/ULTRAGRD.HTM. Johan Lai first showed it me as an add-on for his GIVI. But after seeing it, I knew it would fit perfectly on top of my upper spoiler. After having used it for the past 3 months, I don't know how I got along without it. (My right side-trunk is filled with my cd-changer!) :) -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:32:20 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Saint Laurent, Francois" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Metric Saint Laurent, Francois wrote: > > Jason L Tibbits III wrote : > <<" But I will admit to having no intrinsic understanding of what a > Newton-meter means.">> > That's easy Jason! Please allow a Canadian to explain this for you. A > Newton-meter is a very sophistictaed measuring device used by > environmental impact analysts to determine the amount of Newts in any > particular pond or lake. The last three letters of Newton depict that > this particular instrument measures in tons. (It is most likely used for > large lakes and ponds.) There are also Newtpound and Newtounce meters. > The smallest and most delicate of these instruments is the Fig-Newton. It > is used to determine the total amount of Newts on a single floating Fig > leaf. You know, I always wondered... Soooo... I guess an angstrom is the length of the frequency of an ang when strommed? A Pascal is how much air pressure is created when Cal yells at you when you Pass him? Hey this metric stuff is easy! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2836 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:47:45 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Joe Beresford" , "Fellow PC800's" , "HSTA Posting to listr" Subject: Re: PC800: Aerostitch??? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:40:11 -0400 Good topic. I have the poor man's Aerostitch suit( the Honda Coveralls) which I admit look goofy but work very well in hot climate. Is the Aerostitch bearable in very hot weather like we have in Florida? If it is not good in hot weather than it is a waste of money for me. Vince >From Fireman Joe ok gang here's a nother thread question....to have some fun with.... Since lots of y'all have a aerostitch suits.. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:50:20 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Phil Lewis Subject: Re: PC800: PC v. ST... PILEWIS1 wrote: > And it brings up maybe a new thread on gas quantity. Has anyone > considered a completely safe way of adding an axillary gallon or two of > gas, carried in our trunk? I'm thinking of maybe a small battery > powered pump that would fill the main tank from the trunk while we > ride. Any other ideas? Phil, I know you already dunnit but the best way to extend your range seems to be carry a can with you and stop and fill when you get low. Personally, I feel a fuel stop every 150 miles is good. That's about two to three hours of riding on average. It makes me stop and walk around to get "circulation" in my legs again. We in the medical field call it lower extremity edema but after a long ride without any significant leg use you will notice how tight your ankles feel. That swelling is gravity at work. The interstitial fluid is squeezed upward out of your legs by the contraction of muscles. If they ain't working the fluid will collect. In the extreme it can cause restriction of blood flow, stasis tissue damage, varicose veins, and a bunch of other thing we see in older people who "don't get around much anymore". Ten minutes of walking every couple of hours riding will keep it to a minimum. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2836 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:54:53 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Metric PILEWIS1 wrote: > My airspeed indicator is in "knots." Does that count?? :) > Of course if you had some real mental gonads you'd measure your speed in furlongs per fortnight. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2836 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:54:38 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC v. ST... Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > Personally, I feel a fuel stop every 150 miles is good. That's about > two to three hours of riding on average. It makes me stop and walk > around to get "circulation" in my legs again. We in the medical field > call it lower extremity edema but after a long ride without any > significant leg use you will notice how tight your ankles feel. That > swelling is gravity at work. The interstitial fluid is squeezed upward > out of your legs by the contraction of muscles. If they ain't working > the fluid will collect. In the extreme it can cause restriction of > blood flow, stasis tissue damage, varicose veins, and a bunch of other > thing we see in older people who "don't get around much anymore". Ten > minutes of walking every couple of hours riding will keep it to a > minimum. Hi Steve! O.K., I'm convinced! No more complaining about our gas range from me!! :) Besides, I'm already starting to get those "varicose veins!!" -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:56:54 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Metric Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > PILEWIS1 wrote: > > My airspeed indicator is in "knots." Does that count?? :) > > > > Of course if you had some real mental gonads you'd measure your speed in > furlongs per fortnight. > -- Yes, but I've never stayed in a real "fort" for a whole "night!" -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: Fireman_Joe@compuserve.com (Joe Beresford), hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu (HSTA Posting to listr), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Fellow PC800's) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:05:29 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Aerostitch??? Hi Joe and PC800 gang. Those of you not looking for an Aerostitch or comparable jacket please hit the DELETE key now. You will find this post long. I'm one of those anal people who needs to research and review a product for weeks before buying it. I went through this recently when shopping for a new jacket, since I needed a 10 inch WIDE zipper to do up my old leather jacket that I had kept all these years! I bought an AeroStitch Darien jacket in April, with the body armour and the optional spine protector.( I highly recommend this option) . So far I am very happy with it. I drove from New York to Ottawa on May 2nd, following 87 up to Plattsburgh then over to Massena, then up to Ottawa. On that particular day, it was pretty cold. When I went through the Adirondacks, there was recently plowed snow on the sides of the highway where the shoulders were supposed to be. My hands were cold with my tourmaster winter gloves with Thinsulate. I was wearing the Darien jacket, with the fleece liner that comes with it, and a long sleeve T-shirt. My body was very comfortable. I have also used the jacket in 95 degree weather, without the liner of course, and with the underarm and forearm zippers open. I won't kid you...it can get pretty hot while stopped at a light, but it is not as hot as wearing leathers, or wearing any other cordura style jacket that is not Gore-Tex lined. To answer your questions.... 1- One piece or two??? Two piece is my preference, unless I am going on a long multi-state ride. I spend more time on "150 mile or less rides" than I do on "over 150 mile rides", so I went with the jacket only for now, and will buy pants when the time comes. 2- loose fit???? Not my choice....I don't like any pieces flapping in the wind or bunching up when I sit down. 3- options like pouches,-- recommend what????? Leg or sleeve clear pouch for a map is pretty handy. The spine protector,as mentioned above, is great. I would definitely get this option. 4- color prefs??-- more visiability or match the bikes??? Any color combo comes with the 3M Scotchlite reflector on the back. It is more visible at night than any color could be. I color matched with the bike and helmet. 5- comfortability??? are you??? in all types of weather??? Yup....In hot weather, it is more comfortable to wear a long sleeve T-shirt than a short sleeve one. The cotton is more comfortable on your skin than the inside of the jacket. 6- waterproof...?? have you had to add any more waterproofi ng treatment??? I have driven at highway speeds in an average rain fall, for about 20 minutes. The jacket was truly waterproof. My jeans.....not quite the same.... I like kevlar the idea of being bullet-proof is coool....(GRIN) I Know --not!!!.... Almost all aftermarket products that use Kevlar do not use it by itself. It is usually combined with Nylon, cordura, etc. at the fiber level. In this type of setup, it is not bullet-proof, or fireproof, or burn proof, etc.I know you know that, but it's worth repeating for the others that will be reading this post. Many people think that if something is "bullet-proof" then it will protect them when sliding. This is quite far from reality. Kevlar does not stand up well when sliding on asphalt, at least not compared to Leather and Cordura Good luck with whatever you decide. For what it's worth, I also looked at the comparable products from Fieldsheer, BMW, and a few others. The Fieldsheer is a nice jacket for the price, but I feel that you get what you pay for. It costs less, so you get less. (I don't think the entire jacket is Gore-tex, if at all. ) The BMW was about the same price, but only the liner was Gore-tex. It was also a very light weight jacket. It would be nicer for summer, but may not provide the protection for 3 or 4 season riding. The jacket was so light feeling, that I have suit jackets and sport coats that feel heavier to wear. Maybe its psychological, but it didn't "feel" like it could protect me. The AeroStitch, on the other hand, with all of the body armor and optional spine protector, makes me feel like Robo-cop. good luck ...and let us know what you decide to do. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Joe Beresford Cc: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr Subject: PC800: Re: Aerostitch??? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 12 Jun 1997 13:43:19 -0500 Lines: 53 >>>>> "JB" == Joe Beresford writes: JB> 1- One piece or two??? I got a two piece. Get which ever you like better. I've never worn one piece separated from the other, though. JB> 2- loose fit???? They will size it for you. I can wear a full set of sweats over my normal clothes (or a full suit, I suppose) under the suit with all of the optional armour installed. JB> 3- options like pouches,-- recommend what????? Is you question mark key stuck? I have the extra map pouches but honestly don't use them much. The arm pouch is good for putting directions in, though. JB> 4- color prefs??-- more visiability or match the JB> bikes??? Whatever floats your boat. I have red with black ballistics. A friend here is all black and I think he's nuts. (He has a black PC, a black helmet and black skin, too. We look like the power rangers.) JB> 5- comfortability??? are you??? in all types of weather??? I don't drive a car. I may not even remember how. I live in Houston, which has probably the most crappy climate in the US. Not as hot as Arizona, but always steamy. Comfort is a relative word. Yes, I sweat when stuck in traffic and the slab is heating things up to 50+. But everything's better once I start moving. Get an '89 windshield if you want more air. A good, well ventilated helmet and good flow-through gloves will really help, regardless of what you're wearing. JB> 6- waterproof...?? have you had to add any more waterproofing JB> treatment??? I haven't scotchguarded in over a year and I'm still as waterproof as something with this much zippers gets. It rains a lot in Houston, just about every day for the past few weeks. I still like to treat the suit so that the nylon doesn't absorb any water (which means it has to dry). Just use half a can of mega-outdoor-scotchguard, or Camp-Dry and you'll be happy. My suit is three years old. I broke a zipper pull and a snap and they sent me a pack of them for free. I also buy other stuff from them because while they're not the cheapest they sure are the nicest. And my family is not afraid to order from them, because they can actually communicate with non-motorcyclists. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtpgate.nationscredit.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net (PILEWIS1), schrchll@INETWORLD.NET (schrchll) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:27:47 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: PC v. ST... Phil Lewis wrote : << Besides, I'm already starting to get those "varicose veins!!" ">> Well, I think I can safely say that we have just crossed into the "more information than I needed to know" category!!!! fsl :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:32:37 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: pc800 news Subject: PC800: Leftover found 1995. PC800 BLACK... zero miles. $7690, i think. @ R&T Cycle in Gardiner Maine... mm 90 on I-95 FWIW Bill -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Joe Beresford'" , "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr Subject: RE: PC800: Aerostitch??? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:58:27 -0700 I've been an Aerostitch Roadcrafter user for over 4 years here in the Pacific Northwest wearing it all year round in the wet, cold, and occasional hot weather we get around here. 1- One piece or two??? 2 pieces is my preference. On occasion I've found removing the lower section and wearing jeans and the 'stitch jacket gives a more socially acceptable appearance when out for an evening with friends. In the very hot weather (when visiting places elsewhere than WA ) I've removed the pants so the air could get though my jeans and keep cool. However most of the time in the hot weather I just wear shorts underneath and strip off the suit at rest stops and destination along the way. Of course, wearing riding boots and shorts give others something to chuckle about. 2- loose fit???? I purposely left room in the suit for layering warm clothing during the colder months. Underneath I wear polarfleece pants/top and sometimes even my electric's over that for when it's really cold. The extra room I haven't found to be a trouble in the warmer months as I feel it lets more air flow through the suit. Open up all the vents, center the 2-way front zipper on the jacket (up from bottom/down from top), unzip the groin, and raise the zipper down by my boots and I've got quite a breeze flowing, even behind the tall windshield I have. For those concerned about flapping fabric, I haven't noticed any, even when riding my VFR750f in triple digits. 3- options like pouches,-- recommend what????? My favorite is the small, clear pocket that connects with Velcro to the left forearm. I find it invaluable for putting addresses and directions for places I'm trying to find. 2 favorite is the zippered pocket on the right forearm where I keep spare change, chapstick, and breath mints. And finally, the side-zippered breast pocket is awesome for holding a camelback bladder full of water, camera, or just my wallet. 4- color prefs??-- more visiability or match the bikes??? I've seen some scary color combinations on the road and some very smart ones too. It's a riders choice I guess. Personally I have a blue suit with black ballistics and consider it a tasteful color as well as one that's fairly visible on the road. My next suit will be red/black to match my other 2 red/black bikes (96ST and VFR). The blue does pick up some dirt from time to time but I've found washing it twice a year keeps it very respectable. 5- comfortability??? are you??? in all types of weather??? Suit is very comfortable just about any time of year. I have a full set of leathers too which I feel edge out the stitch in range of motion but they get much warmer in the hot weather. I wear the leathers only when I know it's going to be a dry day and generally only when doing sport riding on the VFR (more give in the groin is needed for hanging off). Even with all the vents open on the leathers I can't stay near as cool as I do in the stitch. Of course, the convenience of getting in/out of a 'stitch in 30 seconds is a huge plus for those how commute by bike. It's even handy at rest stops or restaurants 'cause it only takes a moment to get out and walk freely while the rest of my buddies start heating up. 6- waterproof...?? have you had to add any more waterproofing treatment??? After each washing I always cover the suit with a full can of Scotchguard or silicon spray. The silicon causes the water to bead up on the fabric and run off before it gets a chance to soak through. I coat extra layers of spray across the chest and near major zippers too. Almost all the seams are sealed and it's a zipper that will leak if given a chance. If you're careful to close the flaps in bad weather you can generally avoid getting wet 99% of the time, even in a downpour for hours on end (I've done it). It's not perfect but if you think about it you can keep the body far drier than the rest of you when riding all day in the wet. With the weather protection of a PC800 it takes serious rain to get you wet. My helmet always leaks first! Bottom line is if you ride a lot and want to extend your riding season to cooler and wetter seasons the 'Stitch is a fine piece of equipment and costs about the same as quality leathers and a good rainsuit. Add in the time and trouble it takes to get suited up for a ride and the 'stitch is a bargain. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:27:35 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC v. ST... --------------C58445C275D Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > PILEWIS1 wrote: > > And it brings up maybe a new thread on gas quantity. Has anyone > > considered a completely safe way of adding an axillary gallon or two of > > gas, carried in our trunk? I'm thinking of maybe a small battery > > powered pump that would fill the main tank from the trunk while we > > ride. Any other ideas? > > > Phil, I know you already dunnit but the best way to extend your range > seems to be carry a can with you and stop and fill when you get low. > Personally, I feel a fuel stop every 150 miles is good. That's about > two to three hours of riding on average. It makes me stop and walk > around to get "circulation" in my legs again. We in the medical field > call it lower extremity edema but after a long ride without any > significant leg use you will notice how tight your ankles feel. That > swelling is gravity at work. The interstitial fluid is squeezed upward > out of your legs by the contraction of muscles. If they ain't working > the fluid will collect. In the extreme it can cause restriction of > blood flow, stasis tissue damage, varicose veins, and a bunch of other > thing we see in older people who "don't get around much anymore". Ten > minutes of walking every couple of hours riding will keep it to a > minimum. Dear Stephen, I fully agree with you on the benefit and advisability of pit stops for the rider. but i can stop anywhere to walk around and stretch. I can't count on finding gas at the 150 mile mark on any given ride. long Beach to Las Vegas comes to mind. If you stop for comfort in victorville or Barstow, you have to stop again in Baker for fuel or risk getting into Vegas with your tank as empty as your pockets are on the way out. I don't think an electric pump is the best way to go in a closed system like the PC has, and by my eye, the trunk is lower than the tank, so gravity feed is out. If Johan is open to it, a Givi holds 50 liters, and mounts above the tank height... Naah, he'd only whine about nowhere to put his laptop. Alan --------------C58445C275D +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------C58445C275D-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RJE12569; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:10 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:11:10 -0700 Subject: PC800: Totally Off Subject Nonsense... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:27:47 -0400 saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) writes: > >Phil Lewis wrote : > ><< Besides, I'm already starting to get those "varicose veins!!" ">> Doesn't "varicose" mean "very cose to the surface?" :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,800 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RJF12569; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:10 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:23:07 -0700 Subject: PC800: Food For Thought... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Just got back from Taylor Honda, where I had a new front skin put on (Dunlop K177). Official mileage on replaced tire: 20,388. The shop guy that always works on my bike said that the old tire was as cleanly worn off as any tire he's ever seen. When I mentioned that almost all of the mileage was "touring", he agreed. His take on it: The thing that wears tires faster is the starting and stopping...particularly the stopping and braking that occurs either in lots of city driving or canyon carving. Tires that he's changed that have exclusively highway mileage always last longer. He also mentioned that the Dunlop compounds are more suited for highway driving (right on, Dave Gross!). He did say that he hasn't seen a tire last 20K in a long time, though! Love that StealthMobile! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,800 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA22717 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:08:50 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:08:50 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Multiple Medical Maladies To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Steve Churchill wrote: > "...lower extremity edema...interstitial fluid...restriction of >blood flow...stasis tissue damage...varicose veins..." ...watch out, Steve, or I'll start talking accounting to you. You'll love GAAP, CAS, SOP's, and "ammo's"... Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA06492 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:16:33 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:16:33 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Leftover found To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bill McKenna wrote: > >1995. PC800 BLACK... zero miles. $7690, i think. > >@ R&T Cycle in Gardiner Maine... mm 90 on I-95 > >FWIW > They ought to be real flexible on that price. I saw a new 96 with an ASKING price of $7,600 last November. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:37:29 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: 1990 PC Saw a '90 PC on Route 9 North near Exit 11 around 3:45PM. Was it perhaps one of our local list members? Inquiring minds and all that... gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net gklim@harman.com ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Food For Thought... From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 12 Jun 1997 19:38:21 -0500 Lines: 7 >>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: TBM> The thing that wears tires faster is the starting and stopping... And those pesky burnouts.... - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UoC17333; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:08 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Trailering a PC800 From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:08 EDT I put my PC800 on my motorcycle single rail trailer. I found the bars behind the plastic extrusions ahead of the footrests, when exposed by removal of said covers provide a tie point. I put a bunch of trucker style rubber tie down straps to the wheel to hold it snugly. Anyone got any ideas where else to tie a tie down strap onto this thing? Thank you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UoD17333; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:08 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: greg501@ix.netcom.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Multiple Medical Maladies From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:08 EDT Does anyone speak USOC? On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:08:50 -0500 (CDT) greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) writes: >Steve Churchill wrote: >> >"...lower extremity edema...interstitial fluid...restriction of >>blood flow...stasis tissue damage...varicose veins..." > > ...watch out, Steve, or I'll start talking accounting to you. >You'll love GAAP, CAS, SOP's, and "ammo's"... > > Greg Chambers >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:02:42 -0400 From: Bill McKenna To: Greg Chambers CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Leftover found Mabe. It wasn't there last year... probably snatched it from Honda on speculation... Bill Greg Chambers wrote: > > Bill McKenna wrote: > > > >1995. PC800 BLACK... zero miles. $7690, i think. > > > >@ R&T Cycle in Gardiner Maine... mm 90 on I-95 > > > >FWIW > > > They ought to be real flexible on that price. I saw a new 96 with an > ASKING price of $7,600 last November. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:08:41 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Trailering a PC800 At 08:50 PM 6/12/97 EDT, you wrote: >I put my PC800 on my motorcycle single rail trailer. I found the bars >behind the plastic extrusions ahead of the footrests, when exposed by >removal of said covers provide a tie point. Congratulations. You've discovered the Honda recommended tie down points. >I put a bunch of trucker style rubber tie down straps to the wheel to >hold it snugly. Anyone got any ideas where else to tie a tie down strap >onto this thing? Work your way to the back of the bike. Remove the _rear_ crash bar covers. Use the same way as the front (also a Honda recommended tie down point). This setup really works great, since it stabilizes the bike a lot more and that way not all the strain goes to the front suspension (and thus reduces the dreaded fork spring sag). Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:10:29 -0400 From: Paul & Kirsten Lawson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Xtra Mile Tank... <339EFFB2.3656@concentric.net> <19970611.221217.15966.0.timmacy@juno.com> Hello liSTers, Just my .O2 on the xtra gas tanks, I got this info from a Valkyrie guy, this company makes gas tanks for hard saddlebags. This is what he sent me (FWIW): saddlebag tank..It is made by Tulsa enterprises and can be ordered from Chrome World at 1-800-872-9595. They have a 2.5 gal for $259.00 and a 4.1 gal for $269.00. They advertise Easy In/Easy Out (five minutes). -Paul Paul & Kirsten Lawson Dayton, OH 1995 ST1100 STOC #338 holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: FW: PC800: Leftover found Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:36:46 -0400 1997 MSRP is $8,595 - I received a quote by phone last week on a new '97 of $7,995 - Atlas Honda, Bristol, VA Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Chambers [SMTP:greg501@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:17 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bill McKenna wrote: > >1995. PC800 BLACK... zero miles. $7690, i think. > >@ R&T Cycle in Gardiner Maine... mm 90 on I-95 > >FWIW > They ought to be real flexible on that price. I saw a new 96 with an ASKING price of $7,600 last November. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: X-tra Mile Tank Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:53:03 -0500 Hello Everyone, In the November 1995 MCN, a fuel cell (NASCAR) was adapted for a Helix. There was also another article on a fuel cell adapted for a GSX, I think, but have not found that article yet. Too nice out - must ride! Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: The adventure begins..... Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:09:32 -0400 Well after MUCH deliberation, I've finally decided. I don;t just want a = PC I really NEED a PC. I've been riding motorized 2-wheelers for darn = close to 40 years and have experienced a WIDE variety of machines but = never anything quite like the Pacific Coast. OK, I'm kinda set in my = ways but *I* think Harleys are crude, Wings are nice but way too big, = sport bikes give me cramps and crusiers are nice to look at but I don't = ride to be looked at. The PC seems to me to be just about perfect for a = old fart like me. Guess I've had PC "fever" now for about 6 months and my supportive = spouse has encouraged me to go for it.... something along the lines of = "you're not getting any younger and if want one, you better go ahead and = do it now".=20 Soooooo, tomorrow is the big day. After some positive dialog with Jeff = Hopkins (who has posted here in the past), I'm off to Oklahoma City = tomorrow night to check out his '95. Assuming it meets expectations, = we'll do the deal and I'll have my sleek black "scooter" (yes, I know = all about the scooter thing....I figure if they don't know what it is, I = really don't care what they think!).=20 But, here's the adventure part. If this works out, I'm gonna ride that = puppy home.... 'bout a thousand miles give or take a bit. I made an 800 = mile trip before but this will be a personal record. Since my PC saddle = time can be counted in minutes up to this point, I figure I have a lot = to learn about the PC. Based on everything I've read here over the last = few weeks, I expect it to be mostly positive. Gonna take a southern = route thru Oklahoma and Arkansas then angle up thru Mississippi to = Tennessee and finally wind up home in the upper northeast corner on = Monday evening. I avoid interstates whenever possible so I'll be seeing = the sights. Planning on 3 days. Guess I'll get wet a few time since = there hasn't been a 3 day span in the SE without rain since April. Cest = la vie. I'll report back to list on my big adventure later. For now .... wish me = luck! Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "PC800" Subject: PC800: X-tra Fuel Cell Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:40:25 -0500 Hello All, Found the other article about a fuel cell - MCN November, 1996. A GPZ 1100 received an added fuel cell for the Utah 1088. Huntington Honda supplied the required surgeon - Rick Arnoldo. Quite a bit of information about the fuel cell as well as some nice photographs. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:31:43 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Jason L Tibbitts III" Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Food For Thought... Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:45:03 -0400 How about the stoppies? ---------- > From: Jason L Tibbitts III > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Re: Food For Thought... > Date: Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:38 PM > > >>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: > > TBM> The thing that wears tires faster is the starting and stopping... > > And those pesky burnouts.... > > - J< > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Michael S. Brown'" , PC800 Subject: RE: PC800: X-tra Fuel Cell Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:09:21 -0700 >From my readings on the Long-Distance Riders list (LDRIDER), the most reliable system is that which is gravity based. Adequate venting is mandatory. For those thinking of an Iron Butt, the rules dictate no more than 11 gallons may be carried and the fuel system must be firmly mounted and vented. A simple fuel bottle will result in a disqualification. These rules are largely for safety reasons. With this said, I think you could mount a pair of extra tanks in the trunk. Two would be needed to maintain balance and the fuel lines would run directly to the base of the existing gas tank. The vent hoses would run along the upper portions of the frame and connect to the gas tank along the filler neck. Mounting a tank higher on Givi rack would likely require special valving to control the flow and would likely effect handling dramatically. High maintenance for sure. I should point out nobody has mentioned adding extra fuel to a PC800 on LDRIDER. Most fuel systems being built are intended for BMW K and R bikes as well as the ST1100. A few Wings too. However, a Pacific Coast has finished and Iron Butt (twice) by a fellow who holds the record for oldest finisher. The youngest, btw, finished on a CBR600. Neither used extra fuel cells/tanks. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 07:02:41 -0700 From: Mark Lucas To: PC800 Mailing List Subject: Re: PC800: Random Thoughts Not sure what the bottoms of your timerland workboots are, but if they are leather, that could be part of your problem. I'm 5'6" and I find that good sticky bottom boots help a great deal. I like my Sears western work boots. Non-slip soles, even in the rain. Other than that, yes, I do agree that the center of gravity may be a bit high for easy off the side stand, but it's just right for riding. Wouldn't want them to change a thing! Matt Humphreys wrote: > > I don't write much, but had an observation I'd like to share. I am > 5'6", and find the PC a little top heavy, especially when backing in to > my parking spot, which is a little up hill and on gravel. > > My observation is I struggle when doing the task with my 'Timberland' > style workboots (which are steel toe, dont' think that matters) which > have a fairly flat bottom. But with my hiking boots (lots of knobbies, > maybe a half inch taller) it is absolutely no problem at all!! I also > find myself much more sure footed at stops with my hiking boots on. I > guess I'm saying finding the right pair of riding boots can make things > a little more 'sure footed' and easier. > > Another observation, my friends new black Valkyrie Tourer is actually > easier to set upright from the side stand than the PC!!! My vote is > seat height and center of gravity are the reasons. (He said I could > ride it, but I declined. What am I nuts?!?!?) Sorry for rambling... > -- > Matt Humphreys > mickeymatt@aol.com -or- mickeymatt@clearnet.net > RR3 Box 150-B, Philipsburg, PA 16866 -- Peace, Mark Lucas http://home.earthlink.net/~mjlucas/ mjlucas@earthlink.net PGP Public Key available on request -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id HOZ25542; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 07:38:51 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jrandall@tricon.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Leftover found From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 07:38:51 EDT Yeah, lucky you. Coleman Powersport saw me coming. 1 yr. ago for $8495. Of course they are in one of the most highly taxed jurisdictions in the USA if not THE highest; Fairfax County. My price for not shopping. Beware all Coleman Powersport and to hear my horror story about Bill Page Honda/Toyota, write me aside. On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:36:46 -0400 Jim Randall writes: >1997 MSRP is $8,595 - I received a quote by phone last week on a new >'97 of $7,995 - Atlas Honda, Bristol, VA > >Jim Randall >jrandall@tricon.net > >-----Original Message----- >From: Greg Chambers [SMTP:greg501@ix.netcom.com] >Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:17 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > >Bill McKenna wrote: >> >>1995. PC800 BLACK... zero miles. $7690, i think. >> >>@ R&T Cycle in Gardiner Maine... mm 90 on I-95 >> >>FWIW >> >They ought to be real flexible on that price. I saw a new 96 with an >ASKING price of $7,600 last November. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:15:09 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Keith Sproul Subject: PC800: 95 PC for sale, Amarillo TX In case anyone in Texas is interested.... My father just told me about a 1995 PC-800 with ONLY 700 miles for sale for $5500 in Amarillo Texas.. He saw this advertized in the paper. If anyone wants more detail, I can get it for them. Keith Sproul Keith Sproul ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu WU2Z Student Housing Network Coordinator 908 445-3695 W Rutgers University Computing Services 909 821-4828 H -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:01:23 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Totally Off Subject Nonsense... Timothy B Macy wrote: > > >Phil Lewis wrote : > > > ><< Besides, I'm already starting to get those "varicose veins!!" ">> > > Doesn't "varicose" mean "very close to the surface?" :-}} Interesting that you should say that. I asked my mother as a young lad that very same question. Flashback. In truth most varicose veins are close to the surface of the skin but the word actually has a Greek origin that has nothing to do with surface approximation. The veins in your legs have valves in them to prevent back flow of blood by gravity. Varicose veins occur when this back flow pressure is too much and blows the valve. This causes increased pressure in a segment of vein and distends it giving the typical appearance. Even though the most evident varicose veins are near the surface, it is also possible for the deep venous system to be similarly compromised; it just doesn't show. yeah yeah...more than you wanted to know. ;) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2892 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:23:08 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Totally Off Subject Nonsense... Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > Interesting that you should say that. I asked my mother as a young lad > that very same question. Hmmmm... misplaced modifier. Correction. Make that: As a young lad, I asked my mother that very same question. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2892 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:38:22 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: Trailering a PC800 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 07:33:52 -0600 Rocky E Rocheux wrote about : Trailering a PC800 > Date: Thursday, June 12, 1997 6:50 PM > > I put a bunch of trucker style rubber tie down straps to the wheel to > hold it snugly. Anyone got any ideas where else to tie a tie down strap > onto this thing? > Yes, They make these little straps that go around your hand grips and then you hook the tie down to these straps. They are made for sport bikes and clip ons so you have to be careful not to bend the handlebar. Any good motorcycle shop should have them. Good Luck Brian Hopkins '89 PC "Snow White" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtpgate.nationscredit.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:04:35 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Trailering a PC800 hi Rocky. I recently had my bike picked up by the Honda dealer when it stalled on me on the highway, with less than 1500 miles on the odometer. They put it in the back of their pickup truck, and the front wheel was put into a vertical channel up-right against the front of the bed of the truck. Then he put a tie strap on each grip, going forward to the front corner of the bed at the tie down points. He tightened these straps until the front suspension was compressed about half way. That's it.... I was surprised that he had no other straps at all, but he told me that they even transport Gold Wings this way. Apparently, tthe more straps you have, the harder it gets to have just the right amount of tension on each one so that they don't fight each other. Good luck.. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Tim O'Keefe" To: Subject: PC800: FYI PC FS in Reno Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:04:03 -0000 Found this ad for PC and GW in the Reno paper. FYI The area code for Reno is 702 95 HONDA PACIFIC COAST 800 black & gray, 1500 miles $6,600 call 425-5704 96 HONDA GOLDWING Interstate, perfect cond. 3000 mi, teal green, 1500cc shaft drive, full saddlebags, am/fm stereo w/plug in for cass or CD player, intercom, brand new cover, 3 yr bumper to bumper warranty $10,000 /offer 425-1982 Since I did not budget for a bike this year I can't take advantage of these. I have not seen these nor have I called on them in order to preserve harmony within my household and my SO! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout25.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA01532; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 17:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 17:05:16 -0400 (EDT) To: schrchll@inetworld.net, saintlaurent@nationscredit.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Metric In a message dated 6/13/97 8:35:49 AM EST, schrchll@INETWORLD.NET (Stephen A. Churchill) writes: << You know, I always wondered... Soooo... I guess an angstrom is the length of the frequency of an ang when strommed? A Pascal is how much air pressure is created when Cal yells at you when you Pass him? Hey this metric stuff is easy! >> A KILOMETER is the prescribed activity when encountering a "meter".... Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:41:54 -0700 From: luvadot@sprynet.com (Bob and Grace) Subject: PC800: to bob and sandy from florida To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu sorry list ... do not have e-mail address for bob and sandy bob and sandy ... from florida ... before you leave pls drop bob and grace and note ... we are staying at the same hotel ... maybe we can meet for a drink of some kind ... we will be arrive on monday :) bob and grace parker http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/luvadot __________________________________________________________________________ "Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine Send *NO* Unsolicited Commercial Email _________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SKZ14135; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:44:08 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:37:36 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Food For Thought... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On 12 Jun 1997 19:38:21 -0500 Jason L Tibbitts III writes: >>>>>> "TBM" == Timothy B Macy writes: >TBM> The thing that wears tires faster is the starting and stopping... > >And those pesky burnouts.... A couple years ago I pulled into a used car lot on the StealthMobile. There were about 4 "young" salesmen standing around jawing. One of them says "Wow, good lookin' bike? Can you do a wheelie with it?" Kids! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--50,985 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id T[B25542; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:37:46 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Rocheux@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Writing and strange experiences on a PC. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:37:46 EDT May I make a suggestion? When submitting writings for publication it might be advisable to refer to our trusty mounts as Honda Pacific Coast, then PC800. Reason is, more know what a Pacific Coast is than they do PC800. Just a suggestion... WIERD EVENT. Fridays are always slow for me so I decided at 9AM this morning to close up shop and head out on the PC. I left about 945AM and headed west from Fairfax VA (we are just west of Washington DC) on country roads. I tried to stay at a heading of 270° (westerly) yet I had no exact idea where I was going. The miles and hours blended into a melody of enjoyable passing time. Without knowing what time it had got to be, I felt a hunger pang. Just at that point I came over a rise and saw a sign, "Welcome to West Virginia." "My gosh," I thought, "I have come a long way considering all the winding roads I was on." I glanced at my watch and it was high noon. Around the next curve was an inviting little place and so I stopped there and went inside and sat down at the counter. The lady on duty smiled and came over and opened her mouth and words with that lovely West Virginia accent asked, "cain ah help yuh?" "Yes, I'd like a tuna salad sandwich on whole wheat and a coke," I repled. She smilingly said, "you know, ahm jest fresh out of tuna." "How about chicken salad?" I tried again. "Dang," she replied, "not so much as a teaspoon of chicken salad in here." She looked unusually amused with me and I began to wonder what there was about me that was so funny. I sheepishly asked, "can I have a hamburger?" Then she laughed out loud and asked, "are yeeou from Virgeenia?" "Why yes I am," I responded, "I guess you got that from the direction from which I rode in?" "No sir," she answered, "I didn' t see yeeou drive up. Reason I knowed yeeour from Virgeenia is what yeeou are askin' to buy in here. Ya' see, theesh shears a hardwayer stower. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TcS25542; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:53:43 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: timmacy@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Totally Off Subject Nonsense... From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:53:43 EDT My my. I always thought varicose veins were caused by years of excess pressure from failing to immediately relieve flatulence. On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:01:23 -0700 "Stephen A. Churchill" writes: >Timothy B Macy wrote: >> >> >Phil Lewis wrote : >> > >> ><< Besides, I'm already starting to get those "varicose veins!!" >">> >> >> Doesn't "varicose" mean "very close to the surface?" :-}} > >Interesting that you should say that. I asked my mother as a young >lad >that very same question. Flashback. In truth most varicose veins are >close to the surface of the skin but the word actually has a Greek >origin that has nothing to do with surface approximation. The veins >in >your legs have valves in them to prevent back flow of blood by >gravity. >Varicose veins occur when this back flow pressure is too much and >blows >the valve. This causes increased pressure in a segment of vein and >distends it giving the typical appearance. Even though the most >evident >varicose veins are near the surface, it is also possible for the deep >venous system to be similarly compromised; it just doesn't show. > >yeah yeah...more than you wanted to know. ;) > >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill Q Q~ > Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ > "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 > 2892 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ > Peace Be With You ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "Bryce Ulrich" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: X-tra Fuel Cell Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 22:25:09 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Bryce Ulrich > With this said, I think you could mount a pair of extra tanks in the > trunk. Two would be needed to maintain balance and the fuel lines would > run directly to the base of the existing gas tank. The vent hoses would > run along the upper portions of the frame and connect to the gas tank > along the filler neck. > > Mounting a tank higher on Givi rack would likely require special valving > to control the flow and would likely effect handling dramatically. High > maintenance for sure. I agree, the articles metioned may have worked for the Helix and the Gixer, but a different approach for the Pacific Coast is required. Unfortunately, gravity flow from the saddle bag area to the fuel tank may be difficult to achieve. Perhaps, someday, an individual will succede with such a modification. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael Aguilar" To: , "PC800 List Server" Subject: PC800: Seat Height Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 21:18:43 -0700 Hi Matt, Have you tried getting your seat cut down and reshaped. I had this same sort of problem on my 88 GL1500, when I first got it. In San Diego, CA there's a company called NBI that specializes in custom motorcycle seats. They have done several seats (cut downs, reshapes, refoamed, and new covers) for my friends and I, and we've always been satisfied. I don't think you need to send your seat to SD. As long as you can find a good auto or marine upholstery shop in your area, describe what you would like to accomplish, and if you stay and work with them while they do the work, you should get good results. Let me know what you end up doing. ---------- > From: Matt Humphreys > To: PC800 List Server > Subject: PC800: Random Thoughts > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 1997 9:22 PM > > I don't write much, but had an observation I'd like to share. I am > 5'6", and find the PC a little top heavy, especially when backing in to > my parking spot, which is a little up hill and on gravel. > > My observation is I struggle when doing the task with my 'Timberland' > style workboots (which are steel toe, dont' think that matters) which > have a fairly flat bottom. But with my hiking boots (lots of knobbies, > maybe a half inch taller) it is absolutely no problem at all!! I also > find myself much more sure footed at stops with my hiking boots on. I > guess I'm saying finding the right pair of riding boots can make things > a little more 'sure footed' and easier. > > Another observation, my friends new black Valkyrie Tourer is actually > easier to set upright from the side stand than the PC!!! My vote is > seat height and center of gravity are the reasons. (He said I could > ride it, but I declined. What am I nuts?!?!?) Sorry for rambling... > -- > Matt Humphreys > mickeymatt@aol.com -or- mickeymatt@clearnet.net > RR3 Box 150-B, Philipsburg, PA 16866 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id JWT26389; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:03:20 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: vol. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:03:20 EDT I can tell by the weather map how much e-mail to expect on pc800 net. Lots of nasty wx produces lots e-mail. Lots nice wx produces less as they all are out riding around. :) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Smcavin@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA22215 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:30:42 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Motorcycle safety course I have a friend who would like to buy my PC800. I won't sell it to him until he takes the Motorcycle safety course. Question - Can you take the course if you don't own a bike? In other words will they lend you one or do you use their's? Need your license for the course? Your help appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:45:31 -0400 From: Jeff Leech To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle safety course Smcavin@aol.com wrote: > > I have a friend who would like to buy my PC800. I won't sell it to him until > he takes the Motorcycle safety course. > Question - Can you take the course if you don't own a bike? In other words > will they lend you one or do you use their's? Need your license for the > course? > Your help appreciated. I took the MSF Novice course several years ago here in Ohio. Here they provide motorcycles to ride. I think this is fairly standard for the Novice course. You were required to have a learner's permit. In Ohio all that is required to get the learner's permit is to pass the written test. There is an 800 number to find out more about the MSF courses: 1-800-447-4700 Jeff Leech Centerville, OH '94 Pacific Coast '95 Buell S-2 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA04694 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:39:31 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:39:31 -0500 (CDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PC800: GPS Receivers It's pouring rain outside (for the 14th day of the last 16 - Have I been transported to the Northwest without my knowledge?) so the PC is still sitting idle in the garage . . .just waiting. Can't work in the yard (yea!), cleaned out the basement and garage earlier this year, tired of watching Da Bulls victory celebration for the hundredth time, the mind is starting to go to hibernation mode. Then the better half comes and says "Well dear, what do you want for Father's Day?" and the mind starts to energize. Hmmm, Corbin seat - already have; intercom unit - already have; Rifle windshield - maybe, but I really am content with the tall Honda shield that came with the bike; tank bag - already have; rain suit - nope, got one of those also; AHH HAA - what about a GPS unit? You know, one of those little handheld devices that uses the satellites to tell you where you are, where you have been and where you are going! Hmmm, let's see how do I justify. Well dear, you always complain that I won't stop and ask for directions. With the GPS I shouldn't have to do that. I can just mount it on the tank bag and it will keep a record of where we are and where we went. If we do get on that back country road that looks so promising and after a series of turns and miles ends, we can use the GPS to trace our route back. As a matter of fact, according to my Map N Go program, we can program our route in advance and when we get close to having to make a turn, it will alert us and tell us which way to turn. And being the great humanitarian that I am, I will lend it to Andy when he goes backpacking in the back country! OK, I think I can convince Debbie; but then I have to convince myself. Does anyone there have any experience with these things for their PC. Or is this just a toy with no practical utilization (hey, nothing wrong with that!). As usual, your comments are most appreciated! Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA21763; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:59:14 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:59:14 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle safety course To: Smcavin@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Smcavin wrote: > >I have a friend who would like to buy my PC800. I won't sell it to him until >he takes the Motorcycle safety course. >Question - Can you take the course if you don't own a bike? I took the course in Los Angeles last November. They provide the bikes (mostly Yamaha 125's with the tanks dented on both sides and the lights smashed or taped), and you do not need a special license. The objective of the course, other than learning the basics of riding, is that you don't need to pass the DMV motorcycle riding test, which would probably be pretty tough on a PC800. When you "graduate", you are given a card that exempts you from the driving part with the DMV. You still need the written test. I'm not sure if you need a regular driver's license for the MSF course. You do need to provide your own gloves (they recommend gardening gloves or something, rather than buying some, in case you decide against motorcycling). They provide helmets, although you'd better be fast if your head is "XL". The selection is limited. I'm sure there are variations across the country, especially in the licensing laws, but I found the course extremely useful, in that it gave me enough confidence to borrow a friend's Harley for three months, which convinced me I wanted a PC. Good luck to your friend. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:35:22 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:38:58 -0700 From: tomp@mmrs.state.ms.us (Tom Patterson) To: Jim Randall CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: FW: PC800: Leftover found Jim Randall wrote: > > 1997 MSRP is $8,595 - I received a quote by phone last week on a new '97 of $7,995 - Atlas Honda, Bristol, VA > Here's another. $7599 - North Jackson Honda/Yamaha, Jackson, MS. Ask for Leland Speed (he owns the store). Tom Patterson Pearl, MS 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:44:39 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 11:48:14 -0700 From: tomp@mmrs.state.ms.us (Tom Patterson) To: Jim Randall CC: "'PC800 List'" Subject: Re: PC800: The adventure begins..... Jim Randall wrote: > ......Planning on 3 days. Guess I'll get wet a few time since there hasn't been a 3 day span in the SE without rain since April. Cest la vie. .....I'll report back to list on my big adventure later. For now .... wish me luck! > > Jim Randall Jim, there hasn't been a 3 day span in the SE without rain in recorded history. Good luck and have fun. Tom Patterson Pearl, MS 89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:32:28 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: Smcavin@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle safety course --------------17F02E50578A Smcavin@aol.com wrote: > > I have a friend who would like to buy my PC800. I won't sell it to him until > he takes the Motorcycle safety course. > Question - Can you take the course if you don't own a bike? In other words > will they lend you one or do you use their's? Need your license for the > course? > Your help appreciated. In California, the MSF basic rider course supplies the bikes. the course is mandatory for licensing if you're under 18. If you are over 18, successful completion counts in place of the driving test. The state written test is still required, but that's all. No license or permit is required for the course. I applaud your sense of responsibility. Alan --------------17F02E50578A +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------17F02E50578A-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael S. Brown" To: "Dave Lott" Cc: "PC800" Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Receivers Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 12:09:24 -0500 Hello Dave, > Well dear, you always complain that I won't stop and ask for directions. > With the GPS I shouldn't have to do that. Does > anyone there have any experience with these things.... A GPS can be of significant help in navigation. The City Fire department uses the GPS to verify exact coordinates for helicopter landing sites, as well as travel distances to rural addresses. The GPS is also a very handy tool for mapping the location of sewer lines, water lines or roadways. Current public domain accuracy is approximately 3 - 8 meters. (Gov. domain can be as accurate as .5 Meter) It is a handy tool. Enjoy your Fathers' Day. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 14 Jun 1997 14:38:48 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 14:36:24 -0700 From: mickeymatt@clearnet.net (Matt Humphreys) To: PC800 List Server , ka2wij@earthlink.net Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle safety course > Smcavin@aol.com wrote: > > > > I have a friend who would like to buy my PC800. I won't sell it to him until > > he takes the Motorcycle safety course. > > Question - Can you take the course if you don't own a bike? In other words > > will they lend you one or do you use their's? Need your license for the > > course? You wont let your friend buy your bike 'til he takes the MSF course, but you seem to not know much about it. . . Have YOU taken the MSF course?? ;-) -- Matt Humphreys mickeymatt@aol.com -or- mickeymatt@clearnet.net RR3 Box 150-B, Philipsburg, PA 16866 814-342-5287 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 14:36:54 -0400 From: Paul & Kirsten Lawson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: No longer a NEWBIE Hi all, You may remember me, I just joined the list a few days ago. I took the ST down to my local dealer for a quick checkup today, and he had a used '96 PC sitting out front. They were asking $7,100 for it, seemed high. He offered to let me take it out, like I would refuse, so I took it for a spin. I must say it is a nice bike, very smooth engine, although not hard to tell it's a twin at idle. I only took it up to around 75 or so, but it seemed odd to me that a bike that tours so well at these speeds would be running such high rpm's. Maybe I'm just used to the ST. Do any of you have problems running 75-85 all day on this bike? I didn't think so. Well my wife seems to like it, so once we finish getting her licensed and a little time on some bikes, I think we're gonna try and procure one for ourselves. I'll let you all know when we do, but for know I think I'll just lurk around here. BTW, didn't think to check while I was there, and can't find this info elsewhere. Is the PC a shaft drive? I hope I don't need a flame retardant suit for that one. Thanks everyone for all your help, -Paul Paul & Kirsten Lawson Dayton, OH 1995 ST1100 STOC #338 holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:10:17 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: holcomjl@flyernet.udayton.edu CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: No longer a NEWBIE --------------299C69941FC6 Paul & Kirsten Lawson wrote: > > Hi all, > > You may remember me, I just joined the list a few days ago. I took the > ST down to my local dealer for a quick checkup today, and he had a used > '96 PC sitting out front. They were asking $7,100 for it, seemed high. > He offered to let me take it out, like I would refuse, so I took it for > a spin. I must say it is a nice bike, very smooth engine, although not > hard to tell it's a twin at idle. > > I only took it up to around 75 or so, but it seemed odd to me that a > bike that tours so well at these speeds would be running such high > rpm's. Maybe I'm just used to the ST. Do any of you have problems > running 75-85 all day on this bike? I didn't think so. > My 95 does about 5500 RPM at 75. about 65% of redline. I can cruise there all day (well 175 miles or so, fuel range being a limiting factor). I'm not surprised if that's higher than for an ST, since we're comparing 800cc to 1100cc. > Well my wife seems to like it, so once we finish getting her licensed > and a little time on some bikes, I think we're gonna try and procure one > for ourselves. I'll let you all know when we do, but for know I think > I'll just lurk around here. > Spend some time in the archive too. there are important issues that seem to come up on a cyclical basis (No pun intended) that may be of interest, but that you otherwise might miss. > BTW, didn't think to check while I was there, and can't find this info > elsewhere. Is the PC a shaft drive? Shaft driven, water cooled, and self cancelling turn signals up till 97, and the tupperware seal on the trunk keeps food fresh longer. I hope I don't need a flame > retardant suit for that one. hoest questions are always welcome. Just be careful using the S-----r word. > Alan --------------299C69941FC6 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------299C69941FC6-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 18:28:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Witzell To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: say again Help, I need and intercom. I am slightly hard of hearing. Too many hours in Navy aircraft, and then I took up playing the Scottish bagpipes (aka pipes). My wife, Susan, my most common passenger can not seem to indicate anything useful to our navigation or viewing pleasure unless I stop. Like the time we passed a "naturest camp" aka nudist camp, that was having a nude in. Drat! Sooo, anyone use or know about the acoustic tube type. In the riderwearhouse catalog. They are called Backchat, and sell for $57 or $77 for the deluxe model? what did you say? thanks, Nick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:26:23 -0400 (EDT) To: motorcycle_fans@inter.net From: Motorcycle Week Webcast Subject: PC800: Live broadcast now - 74th annual Motorcycle Week Cybercasting now - this weekend - the 74th Annual Motorcycle Week at www.motorcycleweek.com Is there room for 200,000 motorcycles on the web? You decide! We're broadcasting the 74th annual Motorcycle Week at the Weirs in Laconia, NH right now at www.motorcycleweek.com. Watch the Harley's go by via our RealVideo video feeds, listen with RealAudio to the action on the site! Vote for your favorite photographs, see tapes of interviews with the riders and visitors. Go hog wild! Catch it this weekend at http://www.motorcycleweek.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 21:41:10 -0400 From: Bernie Subject: PC800: Air Cushion To: PC 800 Pacific Coast I suggest to one of the list members a very inexpensive Corbin = substitute, an air cushion sold by Eckerk Drug stores. I have also now = found out it is also handled by Parts America. I just wanted check how = he liked his air cushion? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Live broadcast now - 74th annual Motorcycle Week From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 14 Jun 1997 23:04:31 -0500 Lines: 9 It seems that is not spam as I first thought. The folks seem to have something real going here, and volunteer-run to boot. They're taking digital photographs of the goings-on and are putting them up live on the web. There doesn't seem to be anything of special interest to PC's, but it's worth a look anyway. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: Back in the ...(PC)....saddle, again! Date: Sat, 14 Jun 97 19:29:48 PDT Well, hello, again, gents and ladies! I am back at my computer, again, after a 8000 mile m/c trip around the Eastern states. Bought a Suzuki GS1000G in Florida in May and just RODE. Made it up to Montreal, and 13 states inbetween, a GREAT trip, and met and rode with a few listmembers as well! Back at work now, here in Brisbane, and it looks like it will not be long to plan the next trip! I picked up a few GOODIES for the PC, and Helix-es at your crazy LOW USA prices, and am in the midst of installing a KILLER stereo with wired remote, the cupholder went on today! Cheers, Ron in Brisbane. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "pc club" From: "Ronald Grant" Subject: PC800: oh yes...and... Date: Sat, 14 Jun 97 19:55:58 PDT Also would love to hear from Vince my Key West ride companion...if still on this list. What about that Central America BOAT!! Ron. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 06:55:22 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800 Subject: PC800: Happy Father's Day, Dads I'm a rather new rider. Started about 2 months ago when I bought a red 1990 PC. Love the sport, the risks notwithstanding. I was just wondering how many on this list are dads. Because I am a father of 3, I think I am very safety minded. Happy Father's Day, Dads! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA20970 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:06:10 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:06:10 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: No longer a NEWBIE To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Paul Lawson wrote: > ..he had a used '96 PC sitting out front. They were asking $7,100 for it, seemed high. Paul, You are correct. I bought a used '96 with 2,081 miles in December for $5,999 in Los Angeles. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA03335 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:21:08 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:21:08 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Happy Father's Day, Dads To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Frank wrote: > Because I am a father of 3, I think I >am very safety minded. Happy Father's Day, Dads! > Frank, As I imagine all Dads know, an overwhelming sense of responsibility (with a tough of claustrophobia?) appears when your first child is born and you realize you have 18-22 years of paying the bills and being accountable ahead of you. Mine are now 19 and 16, so I'm almost through it, but you are correct about the safety issue. I think about my family and my responsibilities every time I put on that armored jacket on a hot day, or ride the twisties assuming that someone will cross the line on me, while getting passed by a group of 19-year-olds on crotch rockets. I may be safer and slower, but I'm having a great time and I come home to my kids every night (that is, those nights they manage to get home before my bedtime!). Apologies for the philosophizing (?), but it's 5:15 a.m. on Father's Day, and I can't sleep...maybe I should make breakfast in bed for the kids? I don't THINK so! Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mskrocki@meldrum.com Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 08:23:05 est To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: On to the Hoot Hi all, Just to let you know that I'm signing of the list until I (+wife, kid and in- laws) return from the Honda Hoot. Talk to you on the 24th. Enjoy the ride. Mark Skrocki Sandra & Mark Skrocki 89 PC800 "Jackson" hers / 85 VF1100S "Almighty Aphrodite" his Shaker Hts., OH mskrocki@meldrum.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id LjO21183; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:03:55 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:59:50 -0500 Subject: PC800: Live broadcast now - 74th annual Motorcycle Week From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) >> Watch the Harley's go by via our RealVideo video feeds, I can hardly wait to see those middle aged accountants and dentists wobblying by on their checkbook choppers humming "Born To Be Wild." >> listen with RealAudio to the action on the site! I'm holding my ears during the Harley parade. >>Go hog wild! I think not. Great technology, wrong list. Mike mike.larson@juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:21:20 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil CC: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: Happy Father's Day, Dads frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil wrote: > > I'm a rather new rider. Started about 2 months ago when I bought a red > 1990 PC. Love the sport, the risks notwithstanding. I was just wondering > how many on this list are dads. Because I am a father of 3, I think I > am very safety minded. Happy Father's Day, Dads! > I'm a rather old rider, started about 30 years ago, when I bought a red Suzuki 125, and also the love the sport. Not as risky as it used to be, as now I don't try and climb mountains anymore (some of you, in my area, might remember the Saddleback Motorcycle Park). I'm a father of 2, no grandkids yet (but not too many years away), and yes, safety always!! Happy Father's Day to All!! -- ******************** * * * Phil Lewis * * So-Cal * * '90 PC * * "Delta Red" * * Enjoying The Ride! * * Just turned 10,000 * * * ******************** -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:47:20 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: mskrocki@meldrum.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: On to the Hoot gosh mark, not taking a laptop and modem with you?? :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:32:46 -0700 (PDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Frederic K. Misumi" Subject: PC800: Trailers in Washington ... or anywhere. I've just swung by the only local Honda store here that sells trailers. Because I got there perhaps five minutes after they closed, I wasn't able to get much information about the few they had on display. I got a verbal suggested retail quote for two trailers: $1100 & $1800 -- the difference between the two being about 8 cubic feet worth of space. Question: Where can I go to to look for trailers? I've come across an on-line store that sells custom trailers to match Gold-Wings for $700 - $4000, quite a wide range and I would imaging a huge shipping bill. I'm looking for choices, and these two are the first ones that have provided some for me so far (within this country). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:22:04 +0200 (MET DST) To: "Frederic K. Misumi" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Trailers in Washington ... or anywhere. At 12:32 15-06-97 -0700, Frederic K. Misumi wrote: >Question: Where can I go to to look for trailers? Hi Frederic, I can only lead you to our Dutch PCN site were I setup a page about trailers that are for sale in Holland and Made in Holland, also pictures of PC's with trailers behind can be viewed on our Pictures page http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pictures.htm. You can find them, and download specification sheets at: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ezs-trailers.htm I hope this will help you. Gerard 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:14:52 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: Fuel pump Hi everyone. About a week and a half ago, I posted a report about my trusted PC800, known as Matilda, and how she couldn't be trusted anymore. With less than 1500 miles on the odometer, she just up and died while steady cruising at about 50mph. The problem was diagnosed as a faulty fuel pump. Apparently the relays, fuse, wiring, etc. all all okay. Well....Now the dealer is searching for a fuel pump. There are none in inventory at Honda Canada, being on backorder for an undisclosed amount of time. Does anyone know of a Honda dealer that has a new feul pump for the PC800 in stock? Honda Canada has sent a request to Honda US, and I have been told it could take a week or more to get an answer on availability. I thought I might use the resources of this list to "get the word out". If you know of a dealer with the pump in stock, please send me mail directly, to fsl@borgconsulting.com . Thanks to one and all, and to those Dads on the list..Happy Father's Day. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda p.s. Has anyone here made any plans to go to the Honda Homecoming in Ohio? I'll be on holidays then , and am thinking about attending. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TkU29269; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:53:27 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Angle sensor From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:53:27 EDT In a diagram of my pc in the factory service manual, it points out an "angle sensor." Would this fit into the picture someone painted of the self-cancelling turn signals with mention of logarithms (sp?)? Thank you. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:57:47 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Re: PC800: Angle sensor Hi Rocky. The angle sensor depicted in the shop manual is the one used to determine when to cancel the turn signal. The algorithm uses this sensor, and a speed sensor on the back of the speedometer, to figure out its time/distance/turn equation. As an interesting note, there is also an angle sensor on the ST1100. However, it is used to shut off the fuel supply in the case of a tipover, as a safety feature, to prevent fuel from pumping out onto your leg while tipped over in a McDonalds parking lot, and then igniting you into a live barbecue show. bye for now. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:06:01 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: List lack of activity? Hi folks. Is it just me, or was this list really quiet this weekend? I think I have only gotten about 10 messages since Friday evening. Just wondering....I guess everybody was out riding their PC800's, while I just sat here waiting for the God of Fuel Pumps to show up with my backordered part.... ...sigh..... fsl :-) 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id V_I29269; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:35:17 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: fsl@borgconsulting.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: List lack of activity? From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:35:17 EDT OUI. La circulation sur cette reseau était très légère depuis cette fin de semaine. Je ne veux pas dire <> comme les Français! Ce soir nous avons faite notre programme de vacance depuis le mois d'aout. Nous habitons Fairfax VA, comme vous sayez., Nous allerons passer par les Adirondacks, et nous avons un plan d'entrer Québec de Maine. Je sais que vous avez dites, mais j'ai oublié---ou en Nouvelle Angleterre habitez vous? Si vous êtes sur notre route nous pouvons avoir une tasse de café encore, si vous avez le temps. Nous allons tirer le PC sur le remorque pour couvrir plus terre dans le peu cheres jours qu'avons nous. > > >Plus tard, motard (j'espere que le môt n'a pas un connation negatif :I). -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA20956 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:23:25 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... Hi All! I'm officially back in the USA now, and I also am back on the PC! Yesterday, after I arrived at 4:30, I had the PC up and running with battery, Corbin, and GIVI by 6:30pm. The installation of the Corbin and GIVI was very easy for me. The Corbin seat basically fit right on with very little need of persuasion. The GIVI is a fine piece of equipment, which makes the PC look more like a tourer than our dreaded comment of "scooter." I'll let you know if I ever hear "scooter" again. What took the longest to do was to put in the battery! You think Honda could have planned that better. So, here begins my official summer! L8r, Chris Russell 1996 Honda PC800 http://members.aol.com/christuba -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:16:58 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , "Frederic K. Misumi" Subject: Re: PC800: Trailers in Washington ... or anywhere. Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:00:31 -0400 If you want to go an inexpensive route take a look at the trailer in the J.C.Whitney motorcyle catalog. It is only $499 freight included. Might be a cheap way to try out a trailer to see if you like them. Vince ---------- > From: Frederic K. Misumi > Subject: PC800: Trailers in Washington ... or anywhere. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:17:02 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "pc club" , "Ronald Grant" Subject: Re: PC800: oh yes...and... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:04:54 -0400 Hey Ron, You made it back to paradise. How about a short report on your trip. I just got back from Key West. I stayed at the hostel but sprung for a room at $50 per day. Much better. My daughter just back from her trip to down under and had a wonderful time. She agreed with you about the tourist spots that you pointed out. Vince ---------- > From: Ronald Grant > To: pc club > Subject: PC800: oh yes...and... > Date: Saturday, June 14, 1997 10:55 PM > > Also would love to hear from Vince my Key West ride companion...if still on > this list. What about that Central America BOAT!! Ron. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:13:53 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: Francois Saint Laurent CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Angle sensor > > As an interesting note, there is also an angle sensor on the ST1100. > However, it is used to shut off the fuel supply in the case of a tipover, > as a safety feature, to prevent fuel from pumping out onto your leg while > tipped over in a McDonalds parking lot, and then igniting you into a live > barbecue show. > So what's in the PC to preventing us from turning into the same barbecue show? Yu Seung -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:02:57 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: I think I'm falling in love again Wow. I changed the oil on Saturday morning, spent the whole weekend on the bike, and drove to work today blissed out, like a madman, splitting lanes, weaving in and out of traffic, the thought of getting another ticket for "Careless And Imprudent Driving" striking me as so hysterically funny that I was laughing like a maniac, giving motorcyclists everywhere a bad name and loving it. Man I love that bike. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Carbon-Based* Free E-snail at http://www.snotsnail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Art Rutledge To: "'roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com'" Cc: "'PC800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:35:42 -0600 heck the mod is simple, I did my bike because the black box croaked. I = just went down to the local WallMart and bought an ordinary heavy duty = 12 volt 2 prong flasher ($2.25). On my bike (90 pc) I just unpluged the = "original flasher" under the cowling on the left side of the headlight = (viewed from the front). I then made up a couple of conectors to plug = into the new flasher. I am sorry I don't remember the colors to connect = to which prongs so you will have to use trial and error YOU CANT WRECK = ANY THING IF YOU GET IT WRONG, so go for it! -------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince[SMTP:roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 1997 9:11 AM To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Cc: mickeymatt@clearfield.clearnet.net; PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Auto Cancelling Turn Signals PILEWIS1 wrote: >=20 > Matt Humphreys wrote: > > > > Spencer Whatcott wrote: > > > > > > I heard the auto cancelling signals were dropped for '97 > > > > Does anyone know how to disable auto cancell on earlier models? Am = I > > alone or do others find themselves re-initializing turn signals = every > > couple of downshifts? I like to give the bozos lots of notice!! >=20 > I also find that I have to re-initiate the turn signal on some > occasions, but I still enjoy the self cancelling feature and would = hate > to lose it completely. It would be nice if the time delay could be > selected manually. Maybe somebody could figure out how to do that. >=20 I didn't like the SC turn signals at first because they would frequently turn off prematurely. Now I automatically keep poking the switch. I wore the one out on my '90 at 85K, button return spring went. $75. The turn-signal unit is a black box. I doubt any mods are possible. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA07431 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:32:00 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Plates and things In a message dated 97-06-10 00:30:09 EDT, Michael ,90 PC800 "ESCAPN" wrote: << Tim, > How about Illinois plate "MYPC 89"? If you see a guy on an '89 PC800, it's > me! > > ---Tim > Playing in Peoria Nice Plate! Michael ,90 PC800 "ESCAPN" (I also thought about RELAXN - but I ride a little harder than that.) >> When I put in for that plate, I put in for 'A PC 800' as my first choice, but didn't get it. That doesn't mean it isn't available... I think Illinois gives people their second choice or third choice. I've had better luck getting what I want by only submitting once choice. I hold the plates '67 LNCN', 'ITS A 460', 'OPEN LX 1', and 'TRA 1966' also. Todd Zedak, or anyone else in IL might want to try for 'A PC 800'. :) Cheers! ---Tim '89 PC800 and playing in Peoria -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Spencer Whatcott" To: , "Daniel MacKay" Subject: Re: PC800: I think I'm falling in love again Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:07:45 -0700 ? ---------- > From: Daniel MacKay > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: I think I'm falling in love again > Date: Monday, June 16, 1997 6:02 AM > > Wow. I changed the oil on Saturday morning, spent the whole weekend on the > bike, and drove to work today blissed out, like a madman, splitting lanes, > weaving in and out of traffic, the thought of getting another ticket for > "Careless And Imprudent Driving" striking me as so hysterically funny that > I was laughing like a maniac, giving motorcyclists everywhere a bad name > and loving it. > > Man I love that bike. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Get Your *Carbon-Based* Free E-snail at http://www.snotsnail.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca > Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:29:48 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Angle sensor At 07:53 PM 6/15/97 EDT, you wrote: >In a diagram of my pc in the factory service manual, it points out an >"angle sensor." Would this fit into the picture someone painted of the >self-cancelling turn signals with mention of logarithms (sp?)? >Thank you. It fits just fine Rocky. One of the variables the black box keeps track of is time/distance post-turn, thus it needs to know when the turn happens. btw, it is algorithm, not logarithm (Jason can probably explain both of them best :-) Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '91 Suzuki VX800 University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Angle sensor From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 16 Jun 1997 12:04:12 -0500 Lines: 20 >>>>> "JAG" == Juan A Goula writes: JAG> btw, it is algorithm, not logarithm (Jason can probably explain both JAG> of them best :-) algorithm - description (usually mathematical in nature) of the procedure for accomplishing some goal. logarithm - the inverse of the exponentiation operation. Used in the dark ages before calculators to quickly multiply numbers by using a table to find the logarithms and adding them (see [2]). ( X) [1] log (10 ) = X for all X. 10 [2] log A + log B = AB for all A, B, and all z > 0. z z - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA18090; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:17:26 -0400 (EDT) To: pohys@singnet.com.sg, fsl@borgconsulting.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Angle sensor In a message dated 97-06-16 08:39:12 EDT, pohys@singnet.com.sg (Poh Yu Seung) writes: << So what's in the PC to preventing us from turning into the same barbecue show? >> Coordination...... TZ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ReX13807; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:03:21 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com Cc: Rocheux@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Writing and strange experiences on a PC. From: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:03:21 EDT How come no one said anything about my trying to buy a sandwich at a hardware store? It was a joke. I get a lot of laughs out of it. C'mon. Is it my breath?HHHHHHHHHHHHHHuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh. OOH! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:05:03 -0500 From: Jeff Hopkins To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: '89 PC800 For Sale: 1989 PC800 Priced to the group at $2500.00. It has 24" Rifle windshield back rest, 2k on a set of Dunlop K177's, new stator in the last 500 miles. Has 55k on the odometer, but has been well loved for all those miles. Bike in Oklahoma. Jeff Hopkins -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 15:15:32 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Fuel pump at Honda Milpitas Francois, I just spoke with Bill in the parts department at Honda Milpitas, and he said he doesn't have any fuel pumps in stock at the moment but that he could order one for you and have it the next day because there are so many in southern CA. The price is $104.07 (US of course). I know they'll ship too if you choose to use them. Honda Milpitas has a toll free number of 1-800-734-2639, or you could e-mail at hondamil@aol.com. Hope that helps! Erin in Mountain View, CA '95 PC as well ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:31:14 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Dave Lott CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Receivers Dave Lott wrote: > AHH HAA - what about > a GPS unit? You know, one of those little handheld devices that uses the > satellites to tell you where you are, where you have been and where you are > going! Hmmm, let's see how do I justify. > > Well dear, you always complain that I won't stop and ask for directions. > With the GPS I shouldn't have to do that. I can just mount it on the tank > bag and it will keep a record of where we are and where we went. If we do > get on that back country road that looks so promising and after a series of > turns and miles ends, we can use the GPS to trace our route back. As a > matter of fact, according to my Map N Go program, we can program our route > in advance and when we get close to having to make a turn, it will alert us > and tell us which way to turn. And being the great humanitarian that I am, > I will lend it to Andy when he goes backpacking in the back country! > > OK, I think I can convince Debbie; but then I have to convince myself. Does > anyone there have any experience with these things for their PC. Or is this > just a toy with no practical utilization (hey, nothing wrong with that!). > As usual, your comments are most appreciated! For the GPS system to interface with the DeLorme program you need the GPS AND a Laptop/portable computer with you. My uncle likes to drive around looking for houses and uses it to locate himself. Only he doesn't do the driving and it's a big chunk of equipment to even just have on your lap in a cage. On a motorcycle with limited space: 1. you'll have to stop to get directions from either the computer or the gas station attendant anyway and 2. you'll have to find another place for the gear you now keep in that half of the trunk. Me. I simply learned how to read a map. They fit on top of my tank bag or thigh or arm sleeve. They don't run out of batteries. They don't need booting up. And since I belong to AAA I get them free for anyplace I want to ride. No added cost for upgrades. I rarely if ever have the need to ask for directions. If you are a tech head, go for it. But use that reason for buying it. If you use it to keep from getting lost you may be dissappointed. It's still just a map that you have to read albeit a sophisticated one. FWIW I have the DeLorme Map-n-Go to PLAN routes but even then I use local maps to CONFIRM routes. Belt and suspenders I guess. Getting lost is a state of mind. If you have no particular place to go, it doesn't matter where you are or how you get there. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 2892 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:15:44 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... To: PC800 List >>The GIVI is a fine piece of equipment, which makes >>the PC look more like a tourer than our dreaded comment of >>"scooter." I'll let you know if I ever hear "scooter" again. Uhhh, not to disagree or anything, but my first "bike" was a 100cc Vespa scooter to which I promptly attached a rack and top-box (a standard Euro-scooter setup). I haven't said this to my fellow SoCal PC'ers with Givi's, but whenever I see a rounded-bottom PC with a Givi, my first ment= al association is with that long-ago Vespa . . . Steve Schibuola Huntington Beach, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:15:54 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle safety course To: PC800 List >>. . .that you don't need to pass the DMV motorcycle riding test, >>which would probably be pretty tough on a PC800. . . Tough, but doable! And, as a bonus, you'll impress the heck out of the examiner and any fifteen-year-olds waiting to take the same test on their= lightweight squirrel-bike 125's! Steve Schibuola Huntington Beach, CA '89 PC = -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jim Randall To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: PC800: The introduction.... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:46:05 -0400 Previous Post in this thread: The adventure begins......... Well, Delta Airlines does it again. Guess I should know by now that any Friday evening connection is subject to Murphy's law and I would guess the probability for a screw up is exponentially larger on Friday the 13th. I was supposed to meet Jeff at the Oklahoma City airport at 8:52CDT. Unfortunately Delta's bird didn't depart Atlanta until around 9:15CDT. Needless to say I was late, really late. I was pretty anxious that Jeff might have given up on me....but alas, when I finally got off the 727 a bit after 11:00 there was Jeff patiently (?) waiting. The 35 mile drive down to Lexington OK gave us some time to get aquatinted, talk about the history of the PC and motorcycles in general. Finally somewhere around midnight (at least it was no longer Friday the 13th), I'm introduced to Sam, a big, friendly German Shepherd and to the sleek black Pacific Coast for which I've made this trip. A couple of walk arounds and I'm ready for the test drive. Jeff provides some pointers and I'm off. It's a warm, clear night in central Oklahoma and we're far enough from big city lights to see lots of stars. Having ridden 4 cylinder bikes for years, the V-twin sound of the PC takes some getting used to. It doesn't make a lot, of course, but with no one on the road but me I can hear the engine, tires and gearbox clearly. Now I know why some of the list members refer to their machines as the "stelthmobile" and yes the Dunlop OEM tires do whine when leaned over. It doesn't take long to conclude the bike was everything Jeff said it was - I want it! Time to close the deal. One interesting note, I did draw the attention of the local constable. The policeman in the cruiser didn't pull me over but he did follow me for while. Lexington, having a population of only about 1,500 is apparently not a hot bed of motorcycle activity after midnight. Oklahoma is a helmet-optional state and I guess I looked particularly suspicious in my full-coverage Shoei. Eventually I find my way back to Jeff's and with a couple of signatures and the exchange of a couple of pieces of paper, the PC becomes mine. In the process of our discussion Jeff has mentioned that he envys my "road trip" and that he might be interested in riding east with me for a while on Saturday. This sounds great to me... what could be better than a guided tour of SE OK. So I bungee my bag on the pillon and I'm off to the local motel Jeff pointed out on the way in. I'll worry about packing the trunk tomorrow. By this time it's close to 2AM. The last thing I remember is nodding off with the Honda manual on my chest. Next thing I know it's daylight! Tomorrow's post will be Day One... on to Arkansas Jim Randall jrandall@tricon.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Frederic K. Misumi'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Trailers in Washington ... or anywhere. Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:45:26 -0700 Question: Where can I go to to look for trailers? Everett Honda carries trailers. After that, pick up a copy of Touring Rider magazine at a well stocked bookstore and thumb through the ad's. Lots of manufactures regularly advertise in that mag. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140/STOC 478 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ALT "Trust" ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA01885 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:13:24 -0500 (CDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:13:24 -0500 (CDT) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: GPS Receivers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Steve Churchill wrote: > Getting lost is a state of mind. If you have no particular place to >go, it doesn't matter where you are or how you get there. ..or which direction you go next. Doesn't that sum up the whole basis of "pleasure" riding (as opposed to commuting, etc.). I think I've just adopted a philosophy. Greg Chambers -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:24:41 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Writing and strange experiences on a PC. Addressed to: rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) pc800@hpc.uh.edu ** Reply to note from rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:03:21 EDT > How come no one said anything about my trying to buy a sandwich at a > hardware store? It was a joke. I get a lot of laughs out of it. C'mon. Well, I hope you'll forgive me for saying so, Rocky, but on the list you come across as, shall we say, *idiosyncratic* enough that I was left wondering, "Is this guy telling a joke, or does West Virginia have some hardware stores that look like lunch counters, or is he really not able to tell the difference?" Maybe in person that twinkle in your eye makes it clear which it is. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 27K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "'PC800 List'" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:28:59 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: The introduction.... Jim Randall wrote: > what could be better than a guided tour of SE OK[lahoma]? Well, not to belittle the great state of Oklahoma, or anything, a couple of million things spring to mind... --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 27K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MIKEMB@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA14787 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:06:02 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Shiny New PC Hello Everyone, I am the proud new owner of shiny red 1997 PC800. I just bought it on Saturday. It was used, but get this, only 31 miles. This is the only the second bike I've owned. My last was a Honda CM400T back in 1982. I love this bike. I've already put 300 miles on it and am planning a July 4th weekend trip. My name is Mike, I live in San Antonio TX, so if any of ya'll are close please let me know so we can ride. I would appreciate any advice or tips. Thanks! Mike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:11:01 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: math?? this discussion of mathmatics must end. I have a headache. and I can't balance my checkbook. got your algorhythm right here :>) Had a nice logorhythm last night :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBP01010; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:29:52 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:26:09 -0700 Subject: PC800: Re: Writing and strange experiences on a PC. From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:03:21 EDT rocheux@juno.com (Rocky E Rocheux) writes: >How come no one said anything about my trying to buy a sandwich at a hardware >store? It was a joke. I get a lot of laughs out of it. C'mon. Is it my breath? >HHHHHHHHHHHHHHuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh. OOH! Jeez, Rocky, I loved it! I really did! I'm sorry I forgot to tell you! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyy, I am! Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--51,230 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBN01010; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:29:52 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:09:22 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:15:44 -0400 Steve Schibuola writes: >Uhhh, not to disagree or anything, but my first "bike" was a 100cc Vespa scooter to >which I promptly attached a rack and top-box (a standard Euro-scooter setup). I >haven't said this to my fellow SoCal PC'ers with Givi's, but whenever I see a >rounded-bottom PC with a Givi, my first mental association is with that long-ago >Vespa . . . Funny thing about that...every time I see a Harley Sportster I think about that first ride of mine when I was 12...a Sears Moped! :-}} Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--51,230 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by x18.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EBK01010; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:29:52 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 00:01:28 -0700 Subject: PC800: Pleasure Riding... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:13:24 -0500 (CDT) greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) writes: >Steve Churchill wrote: Getting lost is a state of mind. If you have no particular place >to go, it doesn't matter where you are or how you get there...or which direction you go >next. > >Doesn't that sum up the whole basis of "pleasure" riding (as opposed to >commuting, etc.). I think I've just adopted a philosophy. > >Greg Chambers Couldn't agree more with Greg. I've always felt that the very act of owning and riding a bike is a philosophical statement. But I'd take it one step further and include ALL riding in that mileau. Most of our activities in life probably border on the mundane--going to the store for groceries, running for a rented video tape, etc.--and the very act of taking the bike instead of jumping in the car changes the activity from the mundane to the sublime. And I've also found that I can be so good at finding the long way home from the store...! Before we got into 2-up riding on the StealthMobile, Nan and I owned a '75 MGB. We used to go out and get lost on purpose by taking roads that looked interesting--even if we had absolutely no idea where they went. Basically all we did was switch that activity to the bike. Great way to spend a few hours...or a few days. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--51,230 Miles and Riding "Live every day to the fullest, because it's not stated anywhere that you're promised tomorrow." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:49:55 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "Steve Schibuola" , "PC800 List" Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:15:30 -0400 Oh, no. Does that mean that I should cancel my Givi order? Vince ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Steve Schibuola To: PC800 List Subject: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... Date: Monday, June 16, 1997 8:15 PM >>The GIVI is a fine piece of equipment, which makes >>the PC look more like a tourer than our dreaded comment of >>"scooter." I'll let you know if I ever hear "scooter" again. Uhhh, not to disagree or anything, but my first "bike" was a 100cc Vespa scooter to which I promptly attached a rack and top-box (a standard Euro-scooter setup). I haven't said this to my fellow SoCal PC'ers with Givi's, but whenever I see a rounded-bottom PC with a Givi, my first mental association is with that long-ago Vespa . . . Steve Schibuola Huntington Beach, CA '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:24:55 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800list Subject: PC800: Honda Riders Club Hi fellow pc'ers, I just joined the Honda Riders Club. I plan on taking a trip to Durham, NC Thursday, to check out Duke. My son may consider applying to attend there. Anyway, as a member, I sent for and quickly received (in about 5 days!) a very detailed set of directions, two Rand McNally maps, a coupon book, and suggested places to visit. Very nice service I think. The main reason I joined, of course, was for roadside assistance, if I should need it. I was wondering how many others have joined the club, and what they think of the service. -Frank Cook, 1990 PC800, 9100 miles, Wayne, Pa. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by smtpgate.nationscredit.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: jrandall@tricon.net (Jim Randall), pc800@hpc.uh.edu ('PC800 List') Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:56:38 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: The introduction.... Jim Randall wrote : " By this time it's close to 2AM. The last thing I remember is nodding off with the Honda manual on my chest. Next thing I know it's daylight!" Excellent post Jim ! It's obvious from your post that you are very happy with your PC800. And as for Delta....well, they had problems up and down the eastern seabord on Friday the 13th. I was on one of their planes in WhitePlains, New York at 2:30 p.m. We pulled away from the gate, drove up and down the runway, and then at 6:00, pulled back up to the gate because the flight had been cancelled. yup...that's not a typo...that works out to 3 and a half hours, to go nowhere. And here's the best part....$13.20 for parking !!!! Good luck with the Pacific Coast. If you are ever up in Ontario, Canada, drop me line. fsl 95 PC800 Waltzing Matilda -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 07:52:06 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Starlight Ride Anyone out there, on this list, that rode the Starlight Ride, Saturday out of Beaverton, OR on a black PC800 with silver pinstripping? I admired your silver accents, while you admired my red. I had thought I would see you at the finish line, but alas no luck. Maybe too many people crowded in the pizza place. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 08:14:58 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: [Fwd: Re: PC800: Honda Riders Club] --------------2AFF4AA027C1 -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA '90 Pacific Coast --------------2AFF4AA027C1 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 08:09:59 -0700 From: Steve Gross To: pc Subject: Re: PC800: Honda Riders Club frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil wrote: > > Hi fellow pc'ers, > I just joined the Honda Riders Club. I plan on taking a trip to Durham, > NC Thursday, to check out Duke. Frank, If you're going to NC, head up 421 to Boone & look at Appalachian State University. Great business school, excellent education department, and a kick butt music program. -- Steve Gross - Seattle, WA '90 Pacific Coast ASU Class of '93 -- give'em hell, Apps! --------------2AFF4AA027C1-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:34:28 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:29:38 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Steve Schibuola CC: PC800 List Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin and GIVI installed... Steve Schibuola wrote: > > >>The GIVI is a fine piece of equipment, which makes > >>the PC look more like a tourer than our dreaded comment of > >>"scooter." I'll let you know if I ever hear "scooter" again. > > Uhhh, not to disagree or anything, but my first "bike" was a 100cc Vespa > scooter to which I promptly attached a rack and top-box (a standard > Euro-scooter setup). I haven't said this to my fellow SoCal PC'ers with > Givi's, but whenever I see a rounded-bottom PC with a Givi, my first mental > association is with that long-ago Vespa . . . > > Steve Schibuola > Huntington Beach, CA > '89 PC > I agree completely! I've always thought the GIVI box (or any similar design) absolutely trashes the look of the PC. Thanks, Steve, for having the guts to say it. (I'm ashamed I've been such a wimp to stifle the comment until now.) I know several of you on the list have them, and like them. And I don't mean to offend. But IMHO, the GIVI on a PC is just a bad look. Sorry. Granted, it's functional. I can't tell you how many times I've been traveling with a friend and wished we had that extra room. But instead of wishing I had a GIVI, I keep thinking that if I put my mind to it, I could use the fiberglass fabrication techniques I learned during my satellite dish experiences in the '80s to put together a box with a clamshell-style design (to follow the lines of the bike) that would be a combo box and backrest, with an integrated high brake light. In my mind, I've completely designed it and (again in my mind) it looks pretty cool. The design I've developed would probably have the same (or perhaps even more) cubic inches of storage space than the GIVI, but because of the actual configuration and shape of that space, my design may not accomodate a helmet. It's one of those things you can't really tell until and unless you either actually develop a prototype or create a 3D design in a CAD program or something (neither of which I've done... yet). A couple years ago, when I mentioned it to (and drew a picture of it) for a friend who also owns a PC (and who went nuts over the design, incidentally), he suggested I also include places in the design for rear speakers and passenger armrests (like a wing). But I'm very dubious about crossing that line. In my mind's eye, those two little extras (at least the armrests) would be going way, way too far. IMHO, if one wants a wing, then one should *GET* a wing. The PC is a sport tourer -- a different design, *BY* design. Anyway, the biggest reason I've never developed it is because I haven't had time, and because I keep thinking it's just too much of an undertaking just for little 'ol me. But I must admit, having oh... say... a couple dozen or so PC800 list members tell me to go ahead and do it, and that they would actually BUY one (color-matched and at a severely discounted price, of course), might be enough to push me over the top. Who knows, maybe it could be the first product in a line of accessories for the PC -- a MUCH NEEDED line of accessories for a bike that, for whatever reason, aftermarket manufactures have chosen to largely ignore. Comments, anyone? And, if your comments include encouragement to proceed, please also include where you think something like that should be priced. (Just curious.) Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net '89 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:44:49 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:40:02 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Pleasure Riding... Timothy B Macy wrote: > I've always felt that the very act of > owning and riding a bike is a philosophical statement. But I'd take it > one step further and include ALL riding in that mileau. Most of our > activities in life probably border on the mundane--going to the store for > groceries, running for a rented video tape, etc.--and the very act of > taking the bike instead of jumping in the car changes the activity from > the mundane to the sublime. And I've also found that I can be so good at > finding the long way home from the store...! > > Before we got into 2-up riding on the StealthMobile, Nan and I owned a > '75 MGB. We used to go out and get lost on purpose by taking roads that > looked interesting-