********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:29:44 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Priority Plus vs Hotshot Roger Prince wrote: > > >From experience the PP causes a lot of electrical noise in the J&M > intercom. Any info on the Kriss? > Nope. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:36:21 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Julie A. Pipkin" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: battery and ST Julie A. Pipkin wrote: > I was told that Honda had not introduced a 97 ST1100 model. I do not know if this is > true or not, but when I read that someone had mentioned how the 97 PC looks like a > mini ST, I wondered what plan Honda has for the future regarding the PC and ST. Verrry interesting! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:01:15 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: outrace@flash.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ignorance and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Andre Espaillat wrote: > For what it's worth, of all the PC800 clutches I've done...etc. Maybe you can help me. I am attempting to learn more about motorcycle maintenance with the idea I would do most of my own on my PC. ( I have a shop manual on order.) I have looked into the assorted correspondence schools and they all seem to be no more in depth than to explain the difference between a two and a four cycle engines and which end of a screwdriver to hold onto. I am mechanically well inclined, have a goodly number of tools, and had auto shop a loooong time ago. (I still remember what a ring ridge remover is) Could you recommend a book/manual or series that is detailed but instructive? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:33:20 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Opinions on the current threads... ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > I wouldn't mind your choice of a yellow color, but I'd much rather have a > dark green or emerald green PC. That would be a great combination with the > bottom panels. Someday I'll buy another 96 (or a 97) and have the red custom > painted into a metallic forest green. Boy, would heads turn then! I wholeheardedly agree! When this paint job gets too scratched up to polish I will have the top panels repainted in a metallic forest green low down, fade to white pearl on top. But not for a long while. > To all you 96 and 97 red-haters, let me tell you that I abhored the choice of red > when I bought the bike...but the red has grown on me. Just as the pearl, > candy reds, and blacks have grown on you. Ditto. As I have said in past postings. The Brrright Rrred grows on you. When I bought the bike the first thing I wanted to do was paint it the green paint scheme I described above. But after polishing it a couple of times...now I stand back and look at it... and smile. The green scheme will be for another day. BTW, when I was riding it home from the dealer my new bike was praised by a guy next to me at a stoplight TWO DIFFERENT TIMES! The Brrright Rrred is eyecatching (and if you ride within the law it is not "ticket-me-red"). > -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:The Future of the PC From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 02:30:34 EST On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:12:20 -0500 (EST) BernieK469@aol.com writes: > the future of the PC is dependent upon how many people go down to their local >Honda Dealer and plunk down their money for a Pacific Coast. Which has not been enhanced by the soaring cost of the PC and the availability of used machines. My '94 cost me $5,900 new; now the same dealership has a used '94 for $6,500. But...it's still $2,500 less than what would be paid for a new one. I agreed with everything that Bernie said, even though I didn't quote it. :-}} If the PC can be officially designated as an "orphan" machine, it is one of the most heavily-backed orphan machines around. Not too many bikes have been taken off the US market and then put back on. I don't think they'll do it again. My question: Why is the future of the PC so clouded if it's been such a consistently good seller in Europe? Or is it the future of the PC in the US market? Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Opinions on the current threads... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 02:30:33 EST On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:12:42 -0500 (EST) ChrisTUBA@aol.com writes: >Hi All! > >In an attempt to be totally bold, I am not going to quote anyone's old material, and >instead simply write some of my own opinions. I'm sorry, Chris! I simply couldn't resist quoting that! >for the throttle lock, I have to admit that I'm not crazy about throttlelocks at all. I simply >don't see the use. My hands have never been sore,even after my longest riding >days. I did want to respond to this, though. Y'see, Chris, you're not old! :-}} I never had trouble, either, until last year on my 4400-mile Motorcycle Therapy ride. Part-way through the ride I started realizing that a tendon in my right hand (the one running up to the thumb) was getting sore. The last three days of that ride (including the 775-mile final day from Salt Lake City to Portland) were agony. And the dumb part--I had purchased a throttle lock before I left on the trip but didn't have enough time to install it! I put it on the day after I got back. The 7800-mile round-tripper to Florida was a breeze with the throttle lock. Even if I didn't have the bad tendon (which still flares up occasionally for no apparent reason--that's the "old" thing I was referring to!) it's nice to have just to enable one to rest one's hand. Besides, my mom has trouble with arthritis, and I'm afraid I may have inherited her tendencies. My neck's a mess--but that's another story... As to the "quoting", I couldn't agree more with you. If I quote, I only quote specific passages that I'm going to respond to. It might take a bit more time, but it's a much cleaner, and clearer, message. It's a waste of time...and bandwidth...to quote an entire message just to say "I Agree" or some such related thing. I HATE digging through quoted text just to ferret out a reply! Just my $.02 worth... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:41:19 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Robert Steve Delorey CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: "Market Survey" Robert Steve Delorey wrote: > My question to > the group is - If you were planning a ride, say through Vermont in the > fall, and you became aware of a video that laid out a route and showed > the high spots etc. would you spend $29.95 for a copy? My answer is: yes. Particularly if you had an exceedingly good route/area of the country. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 09:06:32 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: rahardy@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 07:57:24 -0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Oil consumption My oil consumption '89 , 40,000 miles - 1/2 pint per 3,000 miles. John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 03:41:00 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Timothy B Macy" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Up here in the Seattle area, it was not a good day to be on the PC (for the last 24 hours). I actually had some concerns about the big trees around my place last night. I envisioned one or two coming down on either the house or the shed where I keep the PC. In the case of the former, imagine a tall structure of large post and beam construction that has 4 distinct levels - all wood and glass. no basement, a lot of windows. Then surround the structure with 100' Douglas Firs and Alders on three sides swaying sometimes violently in winds gusting to 60 mph. Branches sometimes crashing down in the yard or on a roof. The power flickering occasionally. Our bedroom is on the third floor with three large panes of glass at the head of our bed, of course with a picturesque view of the water at a distance, impeded only by the tallest of these Douglas firs standing alone in the middle of the yard, like a sentry. The kid's rooms are on the second floor. Needless to say, we all slept down on the first floor. Fortunately none of these trees came down in the night. There was lots of power outages all over the island. On the other side of the water in the town where the ferry docks, one person died in this storm last night. I count myself really lucky. - pauly -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Behalf Of Timothy B Macy Sent: Monday, March 31, 1997 5:32 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:32:32 -0500 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >What a beautiful day up here in the Northeast... Hard to believe that I was riding just >yesterday. I must be paying the price for evil deeds committed in a previous life... You and a WHOLE BUNCH of other people, Gary! I just happened to have the Weather Channel on (how did we ever live without it?) when I read your mail. Good Lord, what a nasty looking storm! I guess I shouldn't complain about our 50s and occasional rain, eh? At least it's not white. We had a bit of wind here in Portland yesterday when the storm front moved though, but it was nothing like what Seattle got. Lots of damage. How's everyone in Tennessee? I hope the tornados missed you. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 20:05:59 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: Andre Espaillat CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC1000 just for your info, we've got a whole bunch of strange rules in Singapore chewing gum isn't allowed to be sold anywhere (jams up the subway trains doors) no Coca-cola in schools for 6-12 year olds (too much sugar leads to obesity) R-rated shows are for those 21 and above Cosmopolitan, Playboy, Penthouse....half the country has not heard of it. the other half have but haven't seen a copy unfortunately awhile back an American got caned (Micheal Fay?) got a feeling nitrous kits ain't allowed, don't you? But it's educational finding out what it can do to a PC. at least PC's aren't illegal ;) > > since we get so many gawkers, is the PC the best kept secret in the motorbike world? Yu Seung from Singapore '95 Black and Busted -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andre Espaillat" To: Poh Yu Seung Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 07:54:01 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: PC1000 Reply-to: outrace@flash.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu got a feeling nitrous kits ain't allowed, don't you? =====>That's one of the reasons I suggested that you check to see if NOX was legal. Some places have very restricitve laws about chemical use. HOWEVER, many don't. I was wrong about the price though..... $627 for the twin cylinder kit. That's a LOT cheaper than the $3000-3500 for a complete engine make-over. ************************************************************* Andre Espaillat - outrace@flash.net - CMRA/WERA 522 1996 WERA Southcentral Reg. Champ - Clubman Novice Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103, Carrollton, TX 75006 USA (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle. ************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA25410 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:59:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:59:27 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Oil consumption Hi Richard: Neither my '89 nor Diane's '90 burns more than a fourth of a quart in 3000 miles. Sounds like something is not quite right. If there are no leaks, it must be burning it. Does it smoke at high rpm? What kind of oil have you been using? If you've used only a pure synthetic in the bike since it was new, it is possible that the rings never bedded in properly. If that is the case, switching to a regular oil (maybe one with an API code of SE or lower if you can find any) and running a gear lower than normal to keep the revs up for a while might let them break in for a better seal. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA24054 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:59:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:59:38 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( In a message dated 97-03-31 21:07:47 EST, Tim wrote: << How's everyone in Tennessee? I hope the tornados missed you. >> The really bad stuff, including the tornados, went well south and east of us here in middle Tennessee. We got some pretty good thunderstorms with some strong wind gusts, but nothing really damaging in this area. A more-or-less typical spring so far. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 09:15:44 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Harry D. Hanbury" Subject: PC800: Looking for PC800 Hello all. My name is Harry Hanbury of Naples, Florida. assist@naples.net My non-internet-equipped friend Paul Taylor in England wants to come to the states and buy a PC800. He asked me to try to find him the best one I can find for about $4,000 US. He prefers red. If anyone knows of a good deal in this price range, please e-mail me. Thanks. CUL8tr, Harry -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 07:12:57 -0800 id Megw.3381612 ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 07:11:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 07:52:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: PC800: REQ MAINT To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I've noticed the front forks on my 89 with 12K are leaking oil and spraying the wheel cover. Time to take into shop, will be my first time with this bike. Original owner had it in at 4K. It's running a little rough at idle, about 6-8 on the tach, sounds like its about to die, I rev it up a little and its fine. Is it more trouble than its worth to do this kind of maint. yourself? I'll probably bring it in, does the carb just need a screw adjustment on idle?? Anything else that they should check at this maint interval? Bruce -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:45:08 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 08:45:08 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: archives? I remember searching the archives when I first joined this list, but now I don't remember how to do it. Also, unless I'm really dumb, (quite possible :> ) there is no mention of them on the web page. Can someone refresh my memory. Thanks. John John LaFreniere http://john.csun.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 09:06:16 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > The really bad stuff, including the tornados, went well south and east of us > here in middle Tennessee. We got some pretty good thunderstorms with some > strong wind gusts, but nothing really damaging in this area. A more-or-less > typical spring so far. I know it sounds wierd but I was raised in Missouri and though the California weather is great 99% of the time and has absolutely no extremes in Oceanside, I miss a good rousing thunderstorm and heavy rains followed by new washed air and the most incredibly blue skies and brilliant white clouds. The green of spring in a deciduous forest, the verdant, vivacious, fill-your-eyes-with-life green, cannot be matched by the gray-green of eucalyptus or dark blue-green of the conifers in the mountains or pale green of the grasslands. California has its own advantages, but I do miss the Midwest at times. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 421 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 14:52:30 EST Cut it out Steve, you're making me homesick even though I'm from New England. Well put - I have the same thoughts occassionally - but not yesterday or today! Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com >I know it sounds wierd but I was raised in Missouri and though the >California weather is great 99% of the time and has absolutely no >extremes in Oceanside, I miss a good rousing thunderstorm and heavy >rains followed by new washed air and the most incredibly blue skies >and >brilliant white clouds. The green of spring in a deciduous forest, >the >verdant, vivacious, fill-your-eyes-with-life green, cannot be matched >by >the gray-green of eucalyptus or dark blue-green of the conifers in the >mountains or pale green of the grasslands. California has its own >advantages, but I do miss the Midwest at times. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:29:38 -0800 id Megw.3390344 ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:28:24 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 15:14:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: PC800: RE: MAINT REQ To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I wasn't going to come clean and admit I pulled a bonehead move unless somebody tried to fix my rough idle problem. Turned out I had left the choke on, it was a little cool when I started it this morning. So I was just imagining problems with the PC, get so used to the familiar sounds that when it runs a little rough, it's noticeable. So long as I'm telling tales on myself I'll give the best one I got on me. When I first got the bike I was sitting on it in the garage, helmet on but bike not running. I'm making "Vroom" noises and leaning into curves while I'm straddling the saddle standing the bike up. I forgot I put the kickstand up and went to lay the bike on the sidestand. 600 + pounds of bike, me and my straining ligaments are inches from the garage floor. I've the stereo blasting "I can't drive 55" in my helmet. I scream for my wife to come save me, bloodcurdling scream for life. She comes flying out the door and runs past me as I'm mostly buried on the left side. She comes back expecting to find me hacked up by a machete wielding psycho, no such luck, just me holding on to dear life. Lord take me but don't let my new ride fall and get scratched. She pulled me back up and gave me a stern lecture about boys and the size of their toys! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA23212 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:59:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:59:58 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The history of the PC. My comment. Honda designed the Pacific Coast as a motorcycle to attract back the older and more affluent driver who had left the sport, or to appeal to those West Coast People who had turned to motor scooters during California's repeated gasoline crises The concealed motor and quietness of the PC is not an accidental. The PC was built as a minimum maintenance machine, at the expense of performance. It was also intended as a ultra comfortable bike. The PC was originally priced just below the Gold Wing, and the PC came with two different levels of equipment. Honda's intent with the PC was to lead middle aged and affluent buyers to the Gold Wing. The Gold Wing had been strongly adopted by lower middle class buyers, but not by the executives who had rushed to motor scooters during the gasoline shortages. The upper middle class, college educated, don't get your hands dirty rider had, after the gasoline crises, either left motorcycling or became a BMW owner. The Harley phenomenon had not yet developed. The Pacific Coast was the motorcycle for people who didn't like motorcycles. The PC was an motorcycle, and it didn't appeal to those people who didn't like motorcycles. The PC was not well received in the United States. Motorcycles in the United States are expensive toys and status symbols. Nobody in the U.S. had to ride a motorcycle. But, in Europe where a motorcycle is often a less expensive replacement for an automobile, PC sales surged. While Pacific Coasts stood in American showrooms gathering dust, there was a waiting list for PCs in Europe. Honda spent millions developing the PC. The bikes sales in Europe's limited market, particularly with Honda's profit margin confined by high import duties, never came close to off setting the development cost. Honda stripped the PC of its amenities, and lower the price hoping to increase US sales. Sales remained the same. Honda dropped the bike for a year, and reintroduced it at a sightly higher price. But, sales volume remained the same. It seemed that the PC was totally inelastic, regardless of the price, sales remained the same. Honda can't make the PC a performance machine. It would be in competition with the ST1100, and the ST1100 is already in trouble. Honda doesn't want to drop the PC, as the bike has a loyal following, and a consistent, but low, pattern of sales. Possible the best answer would be to combine the smoothness of the PC with the popularity of the cruiser. It may be the PC's replacement is already on its way to your Honda dealer's show room in the form of the Ace Shadow Tourer . -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:22:17 CST id RAA01375; Tue, 01 Apr 1997 17:18:51 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: Nick Witzell Subject: Re: PC800: The history of the PC. To: BernieK469@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Bernie, Do you, or did you work for Honda Motorcycles? Where did your info come from? Just curious, Nick 95 PC800 96 CB750 ... and still happily married ;-) __ __/o \__ \____ \ __ //\ \ __/o \-//--\ \_/ \____ ___ \ | || \ |\ | _|| _||_|| Ride with a friend! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'CGreenwlt@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Howdy! Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:25:09 -0800 ST1100 Internet Owners Club (STOC). http://percival.xyz.com/st1100. Mailing list send subscribe to majordomo@st1100.com. Details on the st1100 home page. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: archives? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 Apr 1997 16:41:52 -0600 Lines: 16 >>>>> "JL" == John L writes: JL> I remember searching the archives when I first joined this list, but JL> now I don't remember how to do it. Also, unless I'm really dumb, JL> (quite possible :> ) there is no mention of them on the web page. Well, there is a link from the web page, but it really isn't prominent enough. In any case, try http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800. And I reiterate my call for a better page to point to in the message footer. How about the PC Netherland's page? I'd have done that a long time ago if it wasn't for the fact that it's overseas. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The history of the PC. From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 17:58:56 EST >>> It may be the PC's replacement is already on its way to your Honda dealer's show >>>room in the form of the Ace Shadow Tourer . Will the Valkyrie Tourer replace the ST1100? If the PC and St bite the dust, I'd bet a sport touring varient of the Super Hawk is a more likely possibility. Mike Larson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 18:09:20 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Ignorance and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > Could you recommend a book/manual or > series that is detailed but instructive? It's somewhat pricey, but the Honda Common Service Manual is an excellent reference which describes in detail *how* to perform a given task. The service manual assumes a working knowledge of motorcycle/automotive repair practices, whereas the Common Service Manual is geared toward those who are mechanically inclined but not necessarily skilled mechanics. It comes prepunched in loose sheet, to be used in a 3-ring binder. It costs about $54 which is about $5000 less than enrolling at AMI or MMI.... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 18:20:32 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Bruce Modlin CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: REQ MAINT Bruce Modlin wrote: > Is it more trouble than its worth to do this kind of maint. yourself? Check the archives using "Carb Sync" and "Fork Oil" and you will find all you need to know to make a decision as to whether to have your dealer do the work. Hint: Carb sync/adjustment is easy. You don't want to know what's involved in removing the fork legs... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 18:31:55 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: BernieK469@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: The history of the PC. BernieK469@aol.com wrote: > Honda's intent with the PC was to lead middle aged... I qualify > and affluent buyers... I don't qualify; it's just that being divorced, no kids and no life have freed up enough $ for the PC. > to the Gold Wing. I already have a car. ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:52:59 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: The history of the PC. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:44:29 -0500 > Bernie's comment. > two different levels of equipment. Bernie, Please explain the above statement. I have been following the PC since 1989 and don't know of any major changes. I am interested in the Shadow Touring model but don't see it as a PC replacement. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 18:27:55 -0800 From: Robert Steve Delorey To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: The history of the PC. There have been a lot of comments about the low number of PCs sold in the U.S. - Does anyone know actual numbers? I'm just curious. I have no idea how many bikes a company has to sell to make it a viable product/market. There are a lot of bikes that you see every once in a while that seem to hang in there. Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'ChrisTUBA@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Nose cover? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:19:09 -0800 Dave Gross has one on his '89 PC800. It's visible in several of the pictures on the PC800 web page if you'd like to have a look. Incidentally, Milpitas Honda is in the Silicon Valley area very close to San Jose. The Web is huge down there so it seems fitting Milpitas has an outstanding website. I visited there store several weeks ago and can tell you it's very, very small which is ironic considering how popular they are with the Internet crowd. Their service and prices are outstanding. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:26:42 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: REQ MAINT Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:22:10 -0700 you wrote > I've noticed the front forks on my 89 with 12K are leaking oil and > spraying the wheel cover. Time to take into shop, will be my first > time with this bike. > Bruce > Just had the seals done in my '89. The bike must have sat for a long time before it sold and probably dried out. Anyway I figured since they( the Honda shop) were going to tear everything apart I would have them put in new Progressive fork springs ( no additional labor charge). WOW What a difference! The front end actually stays planted. Anyway, that's my advice. Brian H. White '89 20,000 mi It's snowing again!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:34:27 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: The history of the PC. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:29:56 -0700 BernieK469@aol.com wrote >. ...... It may be the PC's replacement is already on its way to your Honda dealer's show room in the form of the Ace Shadow Tourer . > > YUCK!!!!! If I wanted a slow underpowered non handling 1940's looking bike. Well I don't know what I'd do because I don't want anything remotely like that. Double YUCK!!!!!!! Why is the ST in trouble? Great Bike!! I suppose too many wannabe's are buying and showing off their slow cruisers. (Because 90% of them CAN'T ride) ((Valkire's and Magna's excluded) Sorry just venting. Brian H. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:51:56 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: fender To: "Fellow PC800's" with all the talk about the redisign fender on the new PC, yet I have not seen..... Reminds me of a test one of our friends in Texas did, Brad Mobley took a ST1100 front fender an put it on his wife's PC, then went out to test ride....the PC likes to 'fly' at or about (lets just say higher than normal road speeds), so maybe this design change was to help keep the bike's downdraft, and keep the disc and engine cooler......the reason brad did it was purely scientific I am sure.....grin... joe b -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:51:54 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: oil thoughts To: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr With all the talk on oil use....... I was walking thru AUtoZone yesterday while buying the parts for a complete brake job for the 92 Dakota....and I walked past the shelf with the DURA-LUBE....got me to thinking, after seeing 14 different cable channels at the same time of the morning (usually about 3-5 am) showing the same info-mercial on DURA-LUBE....... Has anyone given it a real try or used it in their bike, I been running the Castol Synthetic...but if it's as good as they claim, would it hurt to add a quart on the next oil change......?????? just wondering, yes I suffer from insomnia...joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andre Espaillat" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:27:44 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: oil thoughts Reply-to: outrace@flash.net > DURA-LUBE....... > Has anyone given it a real try or used it in their bike, I been running the Castol Synthetic...but if it's as good as they claim, would it hurt to add a quart on the next oil change..... =====>The purpose of oil is to prevent metal parts from actually touching each other. If your oil is already doing this (and presumably it is because your engine hasn't destroyed itself yet) then adding another product which performs the same feat is redundant. DuraLube probably does everything they claim it does. Does your PC ever go through anything close to their tests? Do you pour water and sand in the crankcase? Do you run your PC without oil? If not, then I suspect you'll never know if DuraLube is as good as they say it is. In fact, until the guys at DuraLube start doing blind testing and having 'control' engines for comparison, I suspect that THEY won't know how good it is either. We use a motor oil that retails for $40 per gallon. We don't expect it to perform miracles or save us from shop errors in assembly. We buy it for one reason only..... It's race grade synthetic with a viscosity of LESS THAN ZERO WEIGHT. It's so thin that we actually gain useable horsepower because we lose less power pumping and churning it inside the engine. IMHO - Unless the gains provided by a product are quantifiable, repeatable, and necessary for your application, they're nothing but a burden on your wallet. ************************************************************* Andre Espaillat - outrace@flash.net - CMRA/WERA 522 1996 WERA Southcentral Reg. Champ - Clubman Novice Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103, Carrollton, TX 75006 USA (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle. ************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:27:17 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: The history of the PC. Bernie, An interesting and well-written history. I'm interested to know your source(s) for all this information. Industry press? Do you work for Honda or a dealer? > The PC was originally priced just below the Gold Wing, and the PC came with > two different levels of equipment. This is the first I've heard of this. What levels of equipment are you referring to? I remember asking the first time I saw an '89 PC on the showroom floor if it came with an optional electronic dash package, since that seemed such an obvious complement to the high-tech look of the PC, and was surprised to be told "No." --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:00:41 -0700 From: Joseph Poplawski To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New '96 PC800 Hi,I'm new this group. I just bought on March 1 a new 96 pc800. I looked at the 97 and thought with the new layout that you were getting less for the dollar. I use the bike daily to go to and from work. This means that it actually has to be functional. I have to be able to carry gear, clothes and a brief case. The only bike that filled the bill was the pc800. The weekends are enjoyable with the weather here in Arizona (for now!!). The other nice feature is the fact that the radiator and engine heat is exhausted away from the rider as opposed to a cruiser. August in Phoenix is hell on a cruiser. I used to ride a shadow 700, gl 1000, suzie 650 and helix. The helix was the most functional in the city but alas not one to be put to the expressway for any duration. I do get alot of looks from people and some nice comments. The only add on that I put on was an alarm system and my wife is making a half cover. The dust and sun in Phoenix can put a toll on any bike. If anyone put on the backrest could you comment about any problems that I should look for. I went looking at the junk yard for a spare seat and found that the older ones aren't the same as the 96. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:30:50 -0800 id Megw.3404075 ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:29:34 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:09:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: PC800: PROGRESSIVE SPRINGS ADVICE NEEDED To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I am having the front fork seal redone next week, I got a suggestion to install Progressive fork springs at the same time. I need to know today to order in time for installation. Dealer wants $68 for parts, won't give me company name but says they are custom made for PC800 - only application. Need a quick opinion from group, go for it or order specific brand from somewhere else?? I,ve tried to access archives and see if its been talked about but under a time crunch. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:41:33 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Electronic dash Bernie says (in a private response to my recent comment on his history of the PC) that there was a deluxe option on the '89 that included the radio and an electronic dash package. This is news to me, and contradicts the info I told of getting from a dealer, and my own experience: I've seen '89s with the radio, but never with an electronic dash. Does anyone else have any information on electronic instruments for the PC? --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:34:47 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: Ordering Common Service Manual, etc. As stated earlier, retail price for the Common Service Manual is $54, but after years of balking at paying this price, I've just ordered it (and some other parts) from Cycle Design in Massachusetts, Roger Prince's favorite dealership. (C-D also gave the best price on the Rifle windshields in the recent group purchase.) Compare these prices: P/N Coleman C-D Common service manual: $51.42 39.38 front grill: 314008-4 33.55 17.50 Engine guard covers: Rt: 314013-4 42.15 29.41 Lf: 314021-7 42.15 29.41 169.27 115.70 (Coleman = Coleman Power Sports, Falls Chuch, VA, a large dealer relatively near me. C-D = Cycle Designs) The aggregate discount of over 30% (and no sales tax) more than makes up for shipping charges. And their staff is friendly, knowledgeable, and perfectly willing to take a mail order. Tell them you're a member of the PC list serve. Cycle Designs' number is 800-343-1374. I doubt that I'll be buying many parts elsewhere from now on. (Oh yeah, air filter: only $26.82!) And no, I didn't drop the bike or have an accident. I'm buying the engine guard covers so that I can cut holes in my existing ones for highway pegs. I brought this up a year or more ago, but has anyone since done anything about what I consider the PC's greatest fault: the lack of a leg-stretching position or a simple way to mount highway pegs? I'm going to experiment with conventional pegs poking through the plastic covers, but I don't expect it to look good enough to leave it that way all the time, hence the extra covers. Or am I the only one whose legs get a little stiff after 2 hours of riding? --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: oil thoughts From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 02 Apr 1997 14:11:46 -0600 Lines: 8 >>>>> "JB" == Joe Beresford writes: JB> ...and I walked past the shelf with the DURA-LUBE.... Is that the Teflon crud? Consider the fact that you have a wet clutch. Do you want Teflon on your clutch plates? - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:53:47 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 15:49:52 -0800 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Helmet Laws/Eye Protection Laws Does anyone know of a URL where I might find a list of which states have helmet laws and/or eye-protection equipment laws? Thanks, in advance, for your help. Gregg L. DesElms deselms@royal.net -- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA04352; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:39:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:39:23 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: IL Ride on April 6th Hello all, The Second Ride of the year is on. The weather looks to be in the upper 50's to low 60's and partly cloudy. Much better than two weeks ago. The meeting spot is Downers Grove Honda, which is SW of Chicago. The shop is about .5 miles EAST of the intersection of 355 and Ogden Ave. E-mail me direct or call if you need more explicit instructions. Look forward to seeing you there. Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout24.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA24405; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:40:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:40:21 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: about calling me If you need to call Todd about the HSTA ride on Sunday the 6th at 10AM at Downers Grove Honda on Ogden and 355, the number is 773-235-0933 Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:Throttle Lock. Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:33:37 EST Dunno if you read my epistle on throttle locks. It is worth repeating. I disconnected one of the 2 throttle return springs and stuffed rubber bands in the groove to the left of the throttle grip. Throttle stays whereever I put it like my old Cushmans and Indians. Just tell the mechanic where you have it serviced or pick the rubber bands out before you leave it off for svc or someone will drive it thru the tool bench. Total cost. 2c for rubber bands. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:33:37 EST Tonite I had 100 msgs between the Indian and PC800 nets. I would like to suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages like this that deal with weather only. I don't want to upset anyone so I would like to just ask for a few opinions and withhold my own. Am I being diplomatic or just a chicken? On Tue, 01 Apr 1997 09:06:16 -0800 "Stephen A. Churchill" writes: >JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: >> The really bad stuff, including the tornados, went well south and >east of us >> here in middle Tennessee. We got some pretty good thunderstorms >with some >> strong wind gusts, but nothing really damaging in this area. A >more-or-less >> typical spring so far. > >I know it sounds wierd but I was raised in Missouri and though the >California weather is great 99% of the time and has absolutely no >extremes in Oceanside, I miss a good rousing thunderstorm and heavy >rains followed by new washed air and the most incredibly blue skies >and >brilliant white clouds. The green of spring in a deciduous forest, >the >verdant, vivacious, fill-your-eyes-with-life green, cannot be matched >by >the gray-green of eucalyptus or dark blue-green of the conifers in the >mountains or pale green of the grasslands. California has its own >advantages, but I do miss the Midwest at times. >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 421 miles and counting > AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 > Peace Be With You ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:46:54 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: rochambeau@juno.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > I would like to > suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages like this that > deal with weather only. Uh-oh, sounds as though the "Relevancy Police" have come out of hibernation... ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:34:27 -0800 From: Robert Steve Delorey To: rochambeau@juno.com CC: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > > Tonite I had 100 msgs between the Indian and PC800 nets. I would like to > suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages like this that > deal with weather only. I don't want to upset anyone so I would like to > just ask for a few opinions and withhold my own. Am I being diplomatic or > just a chicken?Neither. I don't mind the weather reports. As a matter of fact I rather enjoyed the second one. The purpose of the list is to communicate. Other than the usual etiquette rules, any attempt to limit the subject matter will defeat the purpose. Steve DeLorey -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 01:34:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: PROGRESSIVE SPRINGS ADVICE NEEDED Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:29:51 -0700 Bruce Modlin wrote > > I am having the front fork seal redone next week, I got a suggestion > to install Progressive fork springs at the same time. I need to know > today to order in time for installation. Dealer wants $68 for parts, > won't give me company name but says they are custom made for PC800 - > only application. > > Need a quick opinion from group, go for it or order specific brand > from somewhere else?? DO IT ! Go with Progressive only. This is the third different bike that I have put progressive springs in and it has improved every one. Like the name they are progressively wound so they get harder the more they compress. So little bumps are just soaked up but the bigger bumps don't chew up your entire suspension travel. It definately leads to a firmer maybe perhaps even harsher ride, but the improvement in handling more than trades off. (To be honest I like to feel what I ride over instead of wallow over it- but that is of course personal choice.) I know when I ordered thru the dealer ( Lakewood Honda) that they were around $60-70 but I can't seem to find the receipt. (must be that "over organized" garage) They also fit only the PC. I have had really good luck and I would recommend them to anyone. Sorry it took so long to respond, just got home from that darn thing they make me do to pay for my toys. (Some cruel people call it work.) Brian H. '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rochambeau@juno.com Cc: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:53:26 -0800 Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) I think it's fine. You may not be interested, by someonw else may be for any number of reasons. I'll go through 100 msgs in 15-20 minutes if there is not a long one in which I'm interested or any to which I reply, so I'm sure you can also. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com RAHardy@juno.com On Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:33:37 EST rochambeau@juno.com writes: >Tonite I had 100 msgs between the Indian and PC800 nets. I would like >to suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages like this >that deal with weather only. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:03:02 -0500 From: Jeff Leech To: deselms@royal.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Helmet Laws/Eye Protection Laws Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > Does anyone know of a URL where I might find a list of which states have > helmet laws and/or eye-protection equipment laws? You might try: http://www.bmwscruz.com/tech/tech007.html Jeff Leech Centerville, OH '94 Pacific Coast -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:07:37 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Robert Steve Delorey Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, schrchll@INETWORLD.NET, JTSMCRIDER@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Speaking of weather and PCs, I couldn't ride my PC today because of the 24" of snow we got yesterday. I might have given it a try for the commute to work but I have to go through the town that got 36". I had to ride the Toro yesterday (snowblower) but it gave me a chance to utilize the Hondaline/HeinGericke Northwind cold weather suit I won last year at the HSTA TNStar rally. Works great. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id VAA14711 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:11:54 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:16:49 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( <19970409.193207.4319.6.Rochambeau@juno.com> <19970402.175440.14118.0.RAHardy@juno.com> Doesn't really bother me! Sure it can be a pain, but that is what "delete" is for. Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:11:23 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" Cc: PC 800 list Subject: Re: PC800: PROGRESSIVE SPRINGS ADVICE NEEDED Bruce Modlin wrote >Dealer wants $68 for parts, > won't give me company name but says they are custom made for PC800 -only application. What's the big secret? Dealer sounds suspicious. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Andre Espaillat" Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:36:27 PST > > Tonite I had 100 msgs between the Indian and PC800 nets. =====>FWIW - I read more than 100 per day every day and answer about 25% of them on average. If I didn't wanna do it, I wouldn't. ******************************************************** Andre Espaillat Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103 Carrollton, TX 75006 (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace outrace@flash.net ******************************************************** Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 22:38:04 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: rochambeau@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > > I would like to suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages that > deal with weather only. Everybody talks about the weather but nobody ever does anything about it.-- Mark Twain -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 435 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 06:05:02 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > Everybody talks about the weather but nobody ever does anything about > it.-- Mark Twain CFCs and fossil fuels will do it for us... ;-) (I know, it's not relevant, but it's 6 AM and I'm not fully operational until my first cup of coffee. Sorry.) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA15451 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 06:20:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 06:20:10 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: oil thoughts In a message dated 97-04-02 02:25:09 EST, Andre wrote: << IMHO - Unless the gains provided by a product are quantifiable, repeatable, and necessary for your application, they're nothing but a burden on your wallet. >> AMEN! Most, if not all, of the "amazing" results claimed by the oil-additive industry are simply marketing hype. The famous running-without-oil demo, for example, has been duplicated many times on engines that have been lubricated only with standard motor oils. Consumer Reports did a major, long-term test of oils and additives not long ago, and their conclusion was that none of the major aftermarket additives had any measureable effect other than depleating the bank account of those that bought them. Use good oil and change it regularly. IMHO, anything more is a wasteful fantasy. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA02415 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 06:22:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 06:22:41 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Hi Steve: In a message dated 97-04-01 12:11:37 EST, you write: << The green of spring in a deciduous forest, the verdant, vivacious, fill-your-eyes-with-life green, cannot be matched by the gray-green of eucalyptus or dark blue-green of the conifers in the mountains or pale green of the grasslands. >> True! I live in such a forest, and it is truly a beautiful place when the trees are fully leafed. However, you failed to mention the itchy, watery eyes; the sneezing fits (really fun inside a full-coverage helmet); the disgusting drainage and discomfort of the nasal and sinus passages. Ah yes, spring is a wonderful time of the year in the woods :) I think I like fall better. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mskrocki@meldrum.com Date: Thu, 03 Apr 97 07:54:57 est To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Rider Magazine Story In the May issue of "Rider" magazine, there is a story involving touring part of Colorado, on a PC800. Thought you might be interested. Enjoy the ride. Mark Skrocki Sandra & Mark Skrocki 89 PC800 "Layla" hers / 85 VF1100S "Almighty Aphrodite" his Shaker Hts., OH mskrocki@meldrum.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: rochambeau@juno.com (rochambeau), schrchll@INETWORLD.NET (schrchll) Cc: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com (JTSMCRIDER), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:44:16 -0500 Subject: RE: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( On 2-apr-1997 rochambeau wrote : >Tonite I had 100 msgs between the Indian and PC800 nets. I would like to >suggest that we discuss here what we think of messages like this that >deal with weather only. I don't want to upset anyone so I would like to >just ask for a few opinions and withhold my own. Am I being diplomatic or >just a chicken? Rocky...there is an easy way to reduce the amount of messages you get by 50% or more. Simply get off the Indian list server! But seriously...I know what you mean. For those people connecting with a modem, it must take alot of time when they connect to their Internet Service Provider just to download these messages. One thing that I have started recently is to use the filtering aspect of my mail software. Any mail that contains PC800 in the SUBJECT, or in the FROM field, gets put into another folder. That way, once my mail is all here, I can read my work related mail first, and then, time permitting, read the PC800 stuff. If I can't get to it now, it's no big deal, because it is in a separate folder, instead of scattered in my inbox with all my non PC800 mail. Another timesaver is to configure your system to call up your internet provider and download your mail in your absence. I have mine set up to call in, and download, at about 5:00 a.m. EST. When I get in, the mail is there, and I do not have to wait for it to arrive. None of these tips change the fact that it still takes alot of time to download these messages, but at least you don't have to sit there and wait. Well, I guess I 've used enough bandwidth to talk about non PC issues! bye for now.... Francois Saint Laurent '95 Black -> 482 miles and holding (the bike, not me..I have alot more mileage!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA05328 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:12 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Progressive Suspension Springs In a message dated 97-04-02 22:01:42 EST, Brian wrote: << They also fit only the PC. >> Actually, the same springs are used for the VFR750 and a few others that I can't remember right now. I agree that they are a worthwhile modification, especially if you are having other fork work done at the same time to spread the labor cost a bit. In fact, I've got a set ready to go into mine if I ever have the need to pull the front end off the bike. I'll probably but in a set of cartridge emulators at the same time. Until then I just have to live with what is really excellent stock suspension and handling :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA21565 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:19 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Leg Stretching Hi James: You wrote: >>Or am I the only one whose legs get a little stiff after 2 hours of riding? << I think we all get a bit of leg discomfort after 2 hours of riding. I get around it in a couple of ways to straighten them out for a bit: I simply let my feet hang down, nearly touching the road, and move my legs and feet around a bit. I also rest my calves on the "crash bars" (but this isn't particularly comfortable, because the wind tries to blow them off the bars). And, especially in the summer, I simply stand up for a while. All of these work to keep my legs happy, and I don't have to worry about having unsightly highway pegs cluttering up the esthetics of the PC. I must admit that I don't care for highway pegs at all on any bike. That riding position is most uncomfortable, puts too much stress on the lower spine, too much pressure on the tail bone, and puts your feet a long way from where they need to be should you have to brake hard or swerve or stand up to cross a large bump or object in your path. In short, I wouldn't have them even if somebody came up with a good way to attach them. Of course, to each his own and all of that :) JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 08:04:16 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( JTSMCRIDER@aol.com wrote: > > > True! I live in such a forest, and it is truly a beautiful place when the > trees are fully leafed. However, you failed to mention the itchy, watery > eyes; the sneezing fits (really fun inside a full-coverage helmet); the > disgusting drainage and discomfort of the nasal and sinus passages. Ah yes, > spring is a wonderful time of the year in the woods :) I don't have allergies but what you describe can not only put a damper on the true enjoyment of spring but make a real disgusting mess inside your helmet. |< > I think I like fall better. Don't get me started on the beauty of fall... :) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 435 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Boneheaded Move... From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 15:19:29 EST On Tue, 01 Apr 1997 15:14:00 -0800 "Bruce Modlin" writes: > > I wasn't going to come clean and admit I pulled a bonehead move unless >somebody tried to fix my rough idle problem. > >Turned out I had left the choke on, it was a little cool when I started it this morning. > > So I was just imagining problems with the PC, get so used to the familiar sounds >that when it runs a little rough, it's noticeable. I laughed when I saw the above-referenced part of Bruce's post! I didn't include it in my Motorcycle Madness story...so I'll share now. As I had indicated, I woke up to 3" of snow and heavy snow coming down when I was in Casper, WY. I decided to try and ride out of it, 'cause I didn't feel like getting stuck in Casper for a day or more. Bike was fine when I was riding through Casper's streets, but on the interstate every time I tried to go over 45 mph it spluttered and coughed and generally acted up. Scared hell out of me, 'cause (like Bruce) I'd gotten so used to the bike running perfectly I couldn't figure out what was wrong. And...worse...I was now 30 miles from the nearest town on the high plains of Wyoming in a snow storm! I finally outran the snow about 50 miles south of Casper, and stopped at a mini-mart to warm up. After I broke the thick coat of frozen slush off the front of the bike, I tried to start it again...and it wouldn't start. Fearing the worst, I started checking familiar items and discovered that I had left the choke on all the way from Casper! Pushed it in and the bike fired right up. If I hadn't been so preoccupied with trying to ride in a blizzard on a freeway with big trucks trying to cover me with frozen slush...I would have noticed it a loooong ways back! Duh... Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,380 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:27:49 -0800 id Megw.3427678 ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:26:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 14:07:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: PC800: fork seals To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I get the feeling that I've had way more fork seal leakage problems than others other the years. I had a XV750 Virago that had them replaced, and now I got one leaking on my PC800. Both were around 10K mileage. I assume I'll have both resealed, since they got to fix one might just as well presume the other will go bad. I saw in the Dennis Kirk cat. that there are "Leakproof" lifetime warrenty seals for sale. Should I insist on that type or is it just hype. Is this just regular maint. or am I unluckier than most in this regard? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Leg Stretching From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:41:33 EST On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:19 -0500 (EST) JTSMCRIDER@aol.com writes: >I think we all get a bit of leg discomfort after 2 hours of riding. Any bike that forces the rider to bend his/her knees more than 45 degrees or doesn't have running boards will get uncomfortable after a while. Every article/book written about riding stresses stopping at least every 100 miles or so to stretch and work the kinks out. (As I write this, I have to acknowledge that I'm the worst offender. I end up doing all of the on-bike unkinking things that JT alluded to 'cause I sometimes don't get out of the saddle for 3-4 hours. Because I can get away with it, I have also been known to stretch my leg out on top of the fairing next to the air cleaner cover. Don't try this on twisty roads, kids!) > I don't have to worry about having unsightly highway pegs cluttering up the esthetics >of the PC. Hey, Bob Rufener! That story about you checking out the bike in northern Wisconsin should be repeated again for the benefit of newcomers on the list! Ciao, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,380 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Nettiquette.. From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:41:33 EST I enjoy good writing, no matter what the subject. I think that Steve Churchill wrote a beautifully crafted paragraph describing what he missed about midwestern weather. I responded to him privately about it. I take some responsibility for that thread, because it was I who asked how everyone survived the latest round of bad weather across the country. We all share a common love of the same motorcycle, which was the original reason why all of us are on the PC800 list. But the common bond that ties us all together, IMHO, is not our love of a motorcycle, but our enjoyment of each other's company. This means that we will often stray from the "straight and narrow" path of motorcycle talk. I have made many, many friends on this list, and I was concerned about their welfare. Tell me, please, is that wrong? As long as a subject doesn't start an overly long thread (as, alas, I am afraid I am adding to as I type), and it has even a nodding acquaintance to list concerns (weather is ALWAYS a subject of interest to motorcyclists!), I don't mind. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,380 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 17:26:56 EST Who is Mark Twain. We have a MARC train here that goes from Washington into Maryland and carries rush hour computers to and from work. On Wed, 02 Apr 1997 22:38:04 -0800 "Stephen A. Churchill" writes: >rochambeau@juno.com wrote: >> >> I would like to suggest that we discuss here what we think of >messages that >> deal with weather only. > >Everybody talks about the weather but nobody ever does anything about >it.-- Mark Twain >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 435 miles and counting > AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 > Peace Be With You ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Barre Bull To: Timothy B Macy cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Nettiquette Personally I've enjoyed all the various non-topic threads that go through the list. Let's face it, if we were all meeting face to face as frequently as we receive these posts would we only talk about our bikes? I for one would be inquiring into other aspects of the member's lives that were of interest to me. Though I don't frequently respond to the threads, I read every bit of mail from the list, even if it's just a quick scan to see what's happening it's much more interesting than alot of the job related mail I get. Besides, I learn alot about the other members of the list that I wouldn't learn if everything always stayed on topic. Barre' Barre' Bull Network Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:13:40 -0500 (EST) From: Barre Bull To: rochambeau@juno.com cc: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET, rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( But MARC train won't carry carry them home from the baseball game any more! Yeah, yeah I know...Off topic...so send Guido to visit me :) Barre' Barre' Bull Network Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > > Who is Mark Twain. We have a MARC train here that goes from Washington > into Maryland and carries rush hour computers to and from work. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:34:02 -0700 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Too many messages? I'm glad to see the unanimous support for including sorta-not-PC-related messages here. While I'm on the verge of quitting the list (until I go online at home) because of the volume I receive at work, I wouldn't want it any other way! It's nice to "see" more of a real person in the messages than would come through if we were to strictly limit ourselves. Our lives are often too compartmentalized, fragmented, and narrow as it is. (Yes, I know, speak for yourself, Bob...) Bob C. NM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:02:36 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Bruce Modlin Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals Bruce Modlin wrote: > > Is this just regular maint. or am I unluckier than most in this > regard? > > -- Unlucky? I had the fork seals replaced at 74K but just because it seemed like a good idea while the forks were being flushed out. They hadn't leaked. I have never had a leaking fork seal BUT I don't do wheelies!:) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeff Hopkins" To: , "Bruce Modlin" Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 19:18:49 -0600 Replaced mine on my '89 at about 40k. About a $100 deal at the Honda shop. ---------- > From: Roger Prince > To: Bruce Modlin > Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals > Date: Thursday, April 03, 1997 7:02 PM > > Bruce Modlin wrote: > > > > Is this just regular maint. or am I unluckier than most in this > > regard? > > > > -- > Unlucky? I had the fork seals replaced at 74K but just because it > seemed like a good idea while the forks were being flushed out. They > hadn't leaked. I have never had a leaking fork seal BUT I don't do > wheelies!:) > > Roger > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:55:58 -0500 To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: Re: PC800: Windshields and melting! At 09:36 PM 3/30/97 -0800, PILEWIS1 wrote: >Since there are a lot new PC owners, I wanted to mention the physics of >the windshield problem with sunlight focusing. Wow, so that's it. Gee, thanks Mr. Wizard. Really, I always thought it was the sun coming thru the front of the screen. I've got some minor damage on the left side. If it wasn't for this listserv, it would probably be totaled by now, because It would take so long for me to catch on to what was happening. Thanks, Phil Will Johnson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:10:51 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: Re: PC800: This Is Not Funny... :-( To: Roger Prince , "Fellow PC800's" At least you were having fun, right? lol Sounds like time to put the ski's on th PC.... joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:11:02 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: Re: PC800: oil thoughts To: Timothy B Macy , "Fellow PC800's" tim wrote==>>Joe...you just gotta stop watching those infomercials! :-}} yea what else is there to watch at 3 am......i got 100 plus cable channels comming into the house, on a new state of the art interactive cft2200 box, with a electronic programmble tv guide thingy,::: (31digital music) (81 video;7payperview, 3hbo's,2cmax,showtime,tmc,disney, starz,encore, golf channel, turner classic movies, cnn 1&2, espn 1&2, sportschnnle, 15 public acces channles, cmtv,mtv,vh1,5 relegious type channels, wgn,wtbs,............ and there's nothing on!!!!!! OH yea the best part.......I get it FREE!!!!!!!!! joe cableguy@one.net for those of you that want your motorcyle races!!!!!!! GET PRIMESTAR!!!!!!! 1-800-PRIMESTA-R -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:41:35 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Vic and JoAnn Returned Mail! Hi Vic and JoAnn! I sent you a reply, but it came back undeliverable. Please send my your e-mail address again! See Ya, Phil Lewis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:50:42 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Wrecked PC To: "Fellow PC800's" CUT AND PASTED FOWARDED TEXt:::::::::::: ----__ListProc__NextPart____HSTA__digest_523 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:07:00 -0800 From: "Randall R. Foster" To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Wrecked '89 PC Would some nice PC lister pass this on: 1989 PC wrecked, frame and mechanics reported to be OK, most of the plastic is history. supposedly has near new Metzlers. Call Phil Garifo (pronounced Gare-if-o) 704-795-2853 Near Charlotte, NC Thanks, Randy ----__ListProc__NextPart____HSTA__digest_523 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA14172; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:24:28 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:24:28 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: RE: PC800: email reading; was "This Is Not Funny" To: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > I have [my system] set up to call in, and download, at about 5:00 a.m. EST. When I get in, the mail is there, and I do not have to wait for it to arrive. > I can only assume that you are referring to reading all your PC800 mail when you get into "the office". How do I get one of those jobs? I tend to read my email late at night at home, after 12 hours of office and freeway. Greg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id WAA16370 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:53:26 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 22:58:32 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Need a PC leftover If anyone knows of a left over 96 or 95 PC PLEASE let me know. I am willing to pick it up anywhere in the Northeast. I will go south past DC. Chris Klass No, still no PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Fri, 4 Apr 1997 00:29:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 00:29:22 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Another Graphic Request... Hi All! I hope that you all had a pleasant Easter...even if you aren't from the Christian tradition. Anyway, a couple of graphics things for you. First of all, thanks to the advice of Johan Lai, I was able to create some small GIF files of a 1996 PC that is transparent. It works great as a button for a web page. However, THEY AREN'T UP AND RUNNING ON MY PAGE YET (Sorry about shouting, but you non-AOL users don't have an underline feature that I can use!)...give me a couple of days. At any rate, the GIF is 8K in size. If you'd like a copy, e-mail me. Second, I am looking for a picture to use as my header for my website. I am looking for a good picture of a PC with a rider IN MOTION. That doesn't mean that I'm looking for an animated GIF. I'm looking for a picture of a PC hauling down the road. The 1990 PC Brochure which our one fellow scanned (I can't remember his name right now) has one of these type of pictures, but the PC on that page is too blurry to use. If you want to see how I wish to use this picture, take a look at my web page. There's a Harley there right now, but that isn't fair to my PC. Thanks all, for your help! Chris Russell 1996 PC800 72 days left in the Dominican Republic http://members.aol.com/christuba -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:32:15 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: Re: PC800: Wrecked PC Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:32:15 -0800 >1989 PC wrecked, frame and mechanics reported to be OK, most of the >plastic is history. supposedly has near new Metzlers. > >Call >Phil Garifo (pronounced Gare-if-o) >704-795-2853 > >Near Charlotte, NC > >Thanks, >Randy > I wonder what the price is... I was thinking it might be a fun project to attach the "SeaDoo" plastic to the PC chassis... Talk about a head turner! :> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andre Espaillat" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 00:39:08 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Wrecked PC Reply-to: outrace@flash.net pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) wrote: >I wonder what the price is... I was thinking it might be a fun project to attach the "SeaDoo" plastic to the PC chassis... Talk about a head turner! :> =====>I'm sorta working on something similar. I've got a completely naked 89 sitting in the shop. Gonna make it re-streetable with custom skin. Also gonna make the leopard change it's spots a bit....... Have you ever seen a PC naked? Looks like the Elephant Man on crack cocaine. Tiny little bike with strange lumps everywhere. Project from heck! ************************************************************* Andre Espaillat - outrace@flash.net - CMRA/WERA 522 1996 WERA Southcentral Reg. Champ - Clubman Novice Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103, Carrollton, TX 75006 USA (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle. ************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 09:20:09 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:04:33 -0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Too many messages? rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov,Internet writes: >I'm glad to see the unanimous support for including sorta-not-PC-related >messages here. While I'm on the verge of quitting the list (until I go >online at home) be Fine - but a plea please for e-mails to be haeded correctle to make it clear whether it is chat or technical. Not being in the US I file all technical and delete all chat!! John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:45:59 -0500 (EST) From: Barre Bull To: Greg Chambers cc: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: email reading; was "This Is Not Funny" Greg, It helps to have a job that REQUIRES you to read your e-mail at work :) Barre' Barre' Bull Network Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Greg Chambers wrote: > You wrote: > > > I have [my system] set up to call in, and download, at about 5:00 a.m. > EST. When I get in, the mail is there, and I do not have to wait for > it to arrive. > > > I can only assume that you are referring to reading all your PC800 mail > when you get into "the office". How do I get one of those jobs? I > tend to read my email late at night at home, after 12 hours of office > and freeway. > > Greg > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 10:52:18 -0600 From: Keith W Rogers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Have you ever seen a PC naked? Please take some pictures! And post them on the web. Ok? Thanks! -- Keith W Rogers rogersk@eden.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: bb1@pgstumail.pg.cc.md.us (Barre Bull), greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:22:37 -0500 Subject: PC800: great job to have! On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Greg Chambers wrote: > > I can only assume that you are referring to reading all your PC800 mail > when you get into "the office". How do I get one of those jobs? I > tend to read my email late at night at home, after 12 hours of office and freeway. > Greg. Better yet....it helps to have a job where you work from home... I work from home alot, and when I say that I "get in", that refers to my commute, from one of the floors to the other. As for reading my Email when I am really at a place of work.... well of course I only read it during lunch! take care guys! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Andre Espaillat" Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals Date: Thu, 03 Apr 97 16:53:47 PST Bruce Modlin wrote: > I get the feeling that I've had way more fork seal leakage problems > than others other the years. > Is this just regular maint. or am I unluckier than most in this > regard? Well, Bruce, it could be all those wheelies and stoppies you keep doing. ;-) ******************************************************** Andre Espaillat Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103 Carrollton, TX 75006 (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace outrace@flash.net ******************************************************** Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 11:22:44 -0800 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Anderson Subject: PC800: PC800 Hello all; First, thanks for this group. I've been following it for a week or two and found lots of good info on it. Course, it also spurred my decision to get a PC800! Picked it up Wed nite. It's an '89, so it's a nice pearly white, same as my Mark VIII. It's got the radio and spoiler and mini-back rest for passenger. In 2 days of riding, I've already noticed what an attention getter these bikes are. One other rider (on an oler 650) admired it and asked if it cost under $12K! Couple of co-workers were drooling over it yesterday. And I love it. Rode up Mt Hamilton (I'm in San Jose, Ca.) last nite to take a look at the comet (and take a few photos of it). What a great trip that was. High up above the city, with the stars out and the radio on and enuf photo gear in the trunk of the bike (even a tripod!) to take some time-exposure photos. I'm gonna do it again this weekend and try to get one with the comet above the PC800! Also would like to thank whoever it was who turned me on to this group. I'm sorry, but I lost your message. You responded to a question about PC800s that I put on rec.motorcycles. I did check for trunk/tire wear and there doesn't seem to be any on this bike. And, I was able to get the price down from $4K to $3.5K Still maybe a bit high (bike has 20K miles) but it looks brand new and runs great and I didn't like the only other one I saw, which was black, no options, 26K miles for $5200. I think I'm gonna enjoy this bike. Looking forward to my first weekend trip with it sometime soon. george '78 CB550K 20K miles - on the backburner. '86 Cherokee 149K miles - see you in Canyonlands! '89 PC800 20K miles - gotta love it. '93 Mark VIII 67K miles - American luxury. And, recommended by Consumer Reports!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA29791 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:37:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:37:35 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: MASSIVE OIL LEAK My '89 PC800 with 20K miles has a massive oil leak somewhere in the top of the engine. It started at about 16K with afew drops but now its leaking oil like the EXXON VALDEZ! Has anyone had this experience? I'm about to do some exploratory surgery to see if I can fien where it's coming from. Any tech advice appreciated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: David Gordon To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "'KANDJCS@aol.com'" Subject: RE: PC800: MASSIVE OIL LEAK Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:04:40 -0800 I had the exact same problem recently (my '89 has about 40k miles on it). It turned out that the oil plugs and cam cover seals were leaking. I had the shop replace the oil plugs (four of them, I believe) at the top of the cylinders and the cam covers resealed. Worked like a charm, it doesn't leak at all now. David Gordon > ---------- > From: KANDJCS@aol.com[SMTP:KANDJCS@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 1997 11:37 AM > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: MASSIVE OIL LEAK > > My '89 PC800 with 20K miles has a massive oil leak somewhere in the > top of > the engine. It started at about 16K with afew drops but now its > leaking oil > like the EXXON VALDEZ! > Has anyone had this experience? I'm about to do some exploratory > surgery to > see if I can fien where it's coming from. Any tech advice appreciated. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of > a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Bruce Modlin'" , "Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800: fork seals Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:51:25 -0800 I've had fork seals replaced twice on my '89 but I largely attribute that to a bad workmanship by a particular dealer I no longer frequent. Short story: I had Progressive springs and Leakproof seals installed and 1000 miles later (and two states away in Montana) I had a seal start leaking - bad. I limped back to the shop with everyone along the way pointing out that I had a leak. Very embarrasing to be at a rally with this 'cause you couldn't miss the black goo all over a pearl white fender! Well jerk dealer tells me it could be from bugs ripping up the seal and it was doubtful it was there fault. I was so angry I could barely speak and insisted they fix it no charge. Compromise deal was to pay for parts and they did the labor for free. I picked up the bike and said I'd never be back. The seals were Leakproof brand. I called Leakproof and they said they couldn't be sure if it was the dealer or indeed bugs. They guy I spoke with said he rode a PC and went looking through all their returns and found no reports of a failed PC seal. Anyhow, he sent me a replacement set no charge. However, by this time I had already had jerk dealer put stock Honda seals back on. Since then I've been using Honda seals and added Noj brand neoprene fork seal guards. It's a wrap that goes around the fork seals and fastens with velcro. They are intended to protect them from bugs and debris and IMHO they work. For a couple of bucks I thought it good insurance and 25k miles since this whole episode things are still working great. So to conclude, the Leakproof guarantee is true. They sent me another set with no trouble whatsoever. I still have them in my spare parts box. As for being perfect, I truly suspect it's up to the mechanic doing the installation. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:49:09 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Bryce Ulrich CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals Bryce Ulrich wrote: > > I've had fork seals replaced twice on my '89 but I largely attribute > that to a bad workmanship by a particular dealer I no longer frequent. Being the obsessive type that I am, I clean the fork tubes after every ride. I have yet to replace a fork seal in nearly 26 years of riding. Maybe I'm just lucky... :-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: george_anderson@globalvillag.com Cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: PC800 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:51:17 EST Sounds like a lovely bike. Esp. the radio kit. I'd like 1 of those but want only the orig unit. Bob's Indian sent one back to Honda a week before I asked about it after they had it for yrs and yrs. And the price sounds very fair. Enjoy many happy years with it as I love mine! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:57:17 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: KANDJCS@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: MASSIVE OIL LEAK KANDJCS@aol.com wrote: > > My '89 PC800 with 20K miles has a massive oil leak somewhere in the top of > the engine. If not the cam plugs as suggested by David Gordon, another possibility are the two "banjo bolt" fittings that connect pressurized oil lines to the heads. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: WX Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:51:17 EST Steve, you wrote that we talk abt. weather only. You really are ok, I don't care what your dealer thinks of you. Weather only. Yes, lovely. So, lovely day today here in the Nation's Capital. I had to go trade a woman a phone and took the PC (whoops, sorry to mention a m'cycle) for the 2 hour round trip into Northwest D.C. near the Zoo by Woodley Park. . Dodging potholes reminded me not to go to DC at nite. Getting stuck in a real backup near the Key Bridge on my way down from Reservoir Road reminded me of my vow that I broke today; "never go to D.C. nite or day. The sun shone down and it will hit 80 here today. I waved to a guy on a Concours and he waved back. Waved at 3 Harleys and one refused to wave back. I rode by the French Embassy and gave a french salute to the guy in the guard shack but he did not see me or if he did he chose not to respond. Il peut pisser dans une violon! Thanks to things I learned on the computer I parked with the nose of the bike into the sun, shading the dash. When I returned a small Mermaid was sitting on the dash and propositioned me. I told her to get lost and she swam away. Mother would be proud. On another front I put out a note looking for a used trailer to haul the PC or the Indian or the intruder and brought one chap who was kind enuf to reply. What I have found new was that the 6x10 Haulmark with a fold down rear door which becomes a ramp is $2895 where one has it in stock and $2455 where it must be ordered with up to 8 wks. lead time. After buying a new PC this yr. and the Indian for more than I want to think about and not being able to finance them (forced to pay cash) I now want a used trailer and so here's my question: "what would be a good price for one used like the Haulmark described above." Thanks y'all. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA02088 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:00:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:00:10 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: fork seals Hi All: In a message dated 97-04-04 17:52:17 EST, Gary wrote: << Being the obsessive type that I am, I clean the fork tubes after every ride. I have yet to replace a fork seal in nearly 26 years of riding. Maybe I'm just lucky... :-) >> I don't think it's luck. Keeping the fork tubes clean is the key to seal life. Whenever I've had seal problems it has always because I allowed bugs and other crud to stay on the fork tubes long enough to harden and turn into a rather effective abrasive coating. The tuabe guards built into the front fender on the PC help some, but there is no substitute for routine cleaning. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 10:14:13 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: oil life Hi all, I've got the Owner's maunal and the workshop manual and both these books state a 6000 mile oil change interval. I assume this is for 100% mineral oils. I've put in 100% synthetic and am wondering if I should stretch the life of the oil. Perhaps changing it every 10,000 miles instead? They (synthetic oil manufacturers) claim very long life for their oils so when should I drain out the stuff? Secondly, where could I order the Hondaline trunk light kit? Is it still availiable or has it gone the way of the dodo just like the radio? :{ Yu Seung fr Singapore -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pohys@singnet.com.sg Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: oil life 36-37,39-41 From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 12:50:14 EST You ask about extending the length of oil changes. I had a lot of chats with Mobil Oil Co on this very subject a few yrs back. They claim 2-3 times. I follow that rule with my three 4 wheelers unless the oil becomes dirty. Then I change it early. With my Japanese motorcycles, however, I am so persnickety that I use Mobil1 and change it at the 6K mark. I know it may be overkill but I just feel compelled to do it for no logical reason. By the way, using a synthetic oil is not recommended until the thing is well broken it lest it prolong the time needed for break in. With the old Indian, I use non-synthetic oils because that is what my guru sez and they don't make a 50 or 60 wt oil in synthetic. I used Mobil 1 in my Harleys with wonderful result. They did not smoke or burn oil. Harleys are now gone. Finally, there is always a lot of controversy and unsubstantiated rumor re syn. oils. But Mobil discontinued AV1, their reciprocal aircraft engine version of syn. oil, due to the fact that some engines came apart and of course there must have been some lawsuits. If you blow an engine in an airplane it is less fun than if you blow an engine on a motorcycle. Synthetic oils are like Hypnosis; there is mysticism, misunderstanding and rumors surrounding it and it takes some study and self-education---not listening to groundless rumors, to come to understand it. With a solid 47 year background in working with oils and gasolene engines, I would say you could extend the change intervals by 2 or 3 times, keeping an eye on the cleanliness of it. The Federal Aviation Administration, when Mobil's AV1 was in production, approved the extension of oil change interval after some lengthy studies. So it is not just mularkey to advise purchasers to do so. No matter what you do, good luck and enjoy your PC as I enjoy mine. If it were not cold to the touch I would propose to it. ;) Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 14:35:30 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Used bike prices Does anyone know of a web-site that will give used motorcycle values. Having trouble locating one. My son has an '86 Interceptor that he wants to sell and I need information regarding values of used bikes. Please e-mail me directly. Thanks. Took my first ride of the season yesterday. Weather in Wisconsin was in the mid 70's. Beautiful day for a ride. Went with my brother on a 250 mile trip around the western part of the state. Some nice biking country out there. Felt like George Jetson riding alongside Fred Flintstone. Brother John has a HD. Used to be a Winger but succumbed to the popularity wave of Milwaukee Iron. (I think he would have to admit that his feet are still vibrating 20 hours later) Glad we went yesterday as the weather turned to Seattle/Portland weather today and is expected to be crappy for the next week. Felt good to get back in the saddle but have to condition my posterior for these longer rides. Ah well!!! Summer is around the corner. Bob Rufener ruf@nconnect.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VicarDon@aol.com by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA24554 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:54:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:54:23 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Juiced Helmet Anyone with ideas on cleaning insect stain from your helmet? I have a Shoei RF700, vivid orange. I don't believe it is clearcoated. After my first ride with it I immediately tried to remove several purple bug stains. I have tried everything I can think of from Honda deatil cleaner, rubbing and polishing compounds, all kinds of stain remover, kerosine, 3M adhesive remover, and even peanut butter. It looks like it has gone into the paint. Would waxing, or Rain-Xing be a good idea to prevent this? I have owned several helmets and have never had a problem removing stains, must be the lack of clearcoat (?) on this Shoei. Thanks for any responses, Don Bowery, '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:18:03 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Ron Grant's Visit Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 17:01:32 -0500 Ron Grant from Australia is in the states visiting. He and I took a ride down to Key West and had a great time. The weather was wonderful and the riding fine. We stayed in the youth hostel there which is nasty but cheap( $17.00 per night) for Key West. Ron bought a 1982 Suzuki GS1000 to ride around the states and Canada. The Progressive springs for the PC is part # 11-1145. They also fit CBR600(F2), VFR750, CBR100F, and the ZX-10. I paid $49.95 at my local motorcycle shop (Superbikes & Ski 3777 Fowler St Unit 8, Fort Myers,FL 33919 (941) 939-7788). I am waiting for the Honda manual ($35.00 at same shop) before I tackle installing them. This shop will also order any Honda part at a discount. I ordered a new instrument panel since I sold my radio. I will sell the old one with the speakers installed for $75.00. The new panel cost $89.00 (ouch). If someone wanted to install a radio get my panel with speakers. Then you could save your panel for reinstallation at a later date. My panel is in perfect shape. Thanks, Vince Santamaria 6553 Winkler Rd Fort Myers FL 33919 (941) 433 5375 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RJ1Fox@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA18905 for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:32:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:32:09 -0500 (EST) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fwd: PC800: Used bike prices --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: PC800: Used bike prices ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 97-04-05 22:31:09 EST From: RJ1Fox To: ruf@nconnect.net Regarding used bike prices....... Don't know of a web site for used prices, but apparently you are not a subscriber to Motorcycle Consumer News. If you can get a hold of a July 1996 issue or a March 1997 issue, you'd find a "Used Bike Value Guide" inside. The March '97 issue shows 1982 through 1996 model bike prices for all major brands. According to the accompanying lead in, the prices are from the AMA Official Motorcycle Value Guide, reprinted by permission. Regarding Motorcycle Consumer News, I'd consider it to be a must have monthly subscription. It contains reviews, technical help articles, long term bike tests, and plain old smart motorcycling tips/articles/columns. It accepts no advertising (implying more impartiality than the national newsstand rags) and is available by subscription only, although they are test marketing newsstands in 2 or 3 locations. Fox '94 PC800 with just two weeks in my Ohio stable and only 50 miles under our belts (Can't wait for dryer, warmer weather) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA04588 for PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 23:00:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 23:00:09 -0500 (EST) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Motorcycle Consumer News I will second that MCN is a must for every rider. I believe it is only $29 per year, and worth every cent. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA29687 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:18:33 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Juiced Helmet Hi Don: You might try some of that mechanics hand cleaner (like GoJo). I've found that it will sometimes get stains off of all sorts of stuff where other products won't. If that doesn't work, I think you should contact Shoei regarding a warranty replacement; sounds like a defect in the finishing process to me. A good coat of wax (even good old Pledge) will definitely make cleaning easier, and it should at least minimize the sort of staining you describe. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: More Weather Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 13:28:04 EDT If you are on your bike and you come to a fork in the road and you want to know what the weather is doing at each of the two ends of the fork so you know which way to go, locate a phone and call (800) 374-6839. You can touch tone your way across the U.S. and get local current conditions and forecasts. A mini-Flight Service Station for cyclists. This is may not be for the general public and too many hits might cause a number change but use it while you can. bon chance -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id PAA16251 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:11:22 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 14:16:33 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Consumer News MCN is an ABSOLUTE MUST!!! And we all have an obligation to join the AMA. Unless you like things like motorcycle exclusion health benefits. Chris Klass Still looking -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id PAA17839 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:20:17 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 14:25:30 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: B$M$W$ Stopped by a BMW dealer in NYC. I was looking for a used R100RT. He didn't have one, but was able to talk me into writting up what it would would cost to get into a R1100RT. I could buy one for $2000 down and $370 a month for 60 months! Great rate. Or I could LEASE it for $2000 and $260 for 36 months. I think I will stick with the PC. Chris -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: klassc@webspan.net (klassc), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:26:46 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: B$M$W$ on 6-apr-97 Chris Klass wrote... Stopped by a BMW dealer in NYC. I was looking for a used R100RT. He didn't have one, but was able to talk me into writting up what it would would cost to get into a R1100RT. I could buy one for $2000 down and $370 a month for 60 months! Great rate. Or I could LEASE it for $2000 and $260 for 36 months. I think I will stick with the PC. Chris Excellent idea Chris... I just did the same in February, when I came close....REAL close to getting an R1100RT. Then I came across a 95 PC with less than 500 miles, ant less than half the BMW price. I thought about it, for like 12 seconds, and said yes! I realize that it all depends what you are looking for, and also on someones personal tastes, but I actually prefer the way the PC800 drives compared to the R1100RT. I found that with the BMW, when you turn off the throttle quickly, you really need to hang on, because the amount of dive is quite high. Ironically though, when braking heavily, there is no dive at all. I also thought that for $16K, I shouldn't be able to feel that much engine vibration. But, those are personal tastes. Chris...I got your last email about a leftover 95 or 96. I may know of a leftover 96, at a local dealer here. I will check on Monday to see if it is still there. Also, I mentionned it to the dealer where I bought my PC in Feb, and he thinks he might know of one as well. I'll let you know what I find out. see ya.. fsl 95 PC800 482 miles, holding....but not for much longer... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id TAA24667; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 19:43:53 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 18:49:09 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: B$M$W$ > Excellent idea Chris... > > I just did the same in February, when I came close....REAL close to > getting an R1100RT. Then I came across a 95 PC with less than 500 miles, > ant less than half the BMW price. I thought about it, for like 12 > seconds, and said yes! > > I realize that it all depends what you are looking for, and also on > someones personal tastes, but I actually prefer the way the PC800 drives > compared to the R1100RT. I found that with the BMW, when you turn off > the throttle quickly, you really need to hang on, because the amount of > dive is quite high. Ironically though, when braking heavily, there is no > dive at all. I also thought that for $16K, I shouldn't be able to feel > that much engine vibration. But, those are personal tastes. > > Chris...I got your last email about a leftover 95 or 96. I may know of a > leftover 96, at a local dealer here. I will check on Monday to see if it > is still there. Also, I mentionned it to the dealer where I bought my PC > in Feb, and he thinks he might know of one as well. I'll let you know > what I find out. > > see ya.. > > fsl > > 95 PC800 482 miles, holding....but not for much longer... So you have a 95? Thats what I had. I love the Black color. I demoed the RS and RT 1100s at Americade last summer. I was amazed at how much vibration the boxer engine puts out. The suspension was GREAT! The best I have EVER riden. But, the fact is, I need a commuting bike that I can tour on. And I would NOT feel comfortible parking a $15k bike on the streets of NYC. So it is the PC for me. Let me know what you can find out. Chris P.S. Where are you located? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Rose City 250 59-60,65-66,78-79,87-88,98-99,105-106,118-119,129-130,140-141, 148-149,151-152,163-166,168,172-177 From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 01:31:03 EDT Hello to all! Nan and I rode the Rose City 250 today...an annual ride put on by the Rose City Motorcycle Club...and I thought I'd post a Trip Report about it. I know that more than a few of you are still suffering the lingering effects of PMS, so I thought you'd enjoy it. Nan and I are members of the club...along with others on this list, including Julie Pipkin and Wanda Bailie. It's a good, active club that now numbers just over 100 members. Every year they host four events that are extremely popular in the Portland area...the Rose City 250 (April), the Oregon 500 (May), the Western States 1000 (June), and the Grand Tour (April-September). Remind me to write up a report on the Grand Tour one of these days--that is truly a great concept! Today the Rose City 250 was held, and about 600 participants were expected. This means a lot of work by the club members to process the sign-ups, so Nan and I rousted ourselves out of bed at 5AM in order to get to Beaverton Honda at 5:30AM to set up. Unfortunately I also have the Fireman Joe affliction of insomnia at times, and more unfortunately last night was one of the nights...which was exascerbated by the fact that we had already lost an hour of sleep due to Daylight Savings Time kicking in. As I was still awake at 3:30, I went hot tubbing with son Todd...which did help. So 5AM was a very, very unwelcome jolt of reality after an hour of sleep. The day dawned cold (33 degrees) but clear, with the promise of a perfect riding day of temps in the upper 60s. As Nan and I were working with the pre-registered riders, we were finished by 8:45AM and could take the ride ourselves. A newcomer to the area, Cliff Wulff, asked to ride along and we readily agreed. An affable, very likable man, he seemed like a nice addition to our day. So we fired up the StealthMobile, he warmed up his Venture, and we were on our way. The first 80 miles of the ride were very familiar, as it took us east on Interstate 84 to the mouth of the Columbia Gorge and then south along the Sandy River, where we caught the Old Scenic Highway, a historically-designated highway built in the 1920s that bumps and winds a tortuous and deliciously twisty ride to Multnomah Falls. On the way the road offers gorgeous views of a number of other Gorge waterfalls. >From there we jumped back on I-84 east to Moiser, OR. When high pressure brings warm, dry, beautiful weather to northwestern Oregon, it usually means that a low pressure system is sitting somewhere east of the Cascades. The Columbia Gorge is a 60-mile-long east/west gash in the Cascades, which allows air to funnel west through the Gorge. Did I say funnel? I should say rush! This wind is the reason why Hood River, OR, is probably one of the premier wind surfing spots in the world. And, unfortunately, this wind also makes it somewhat of an adventure to ride a motorcycle through the Gorge. We were fighting headwinds gusting to 40 mph until we reached Mosier. When we exited I-84 we were once again on the Old Scenic Highway, but it was a portion of the road that we had never ridden before. The road was twisty, and the scenery was gorgeous, as we were now on the "dry side" of the Cascades, where vegetation is sparse. The whole area is clefted by deep canyons which can be viewed from the Rowena Crest Overlook, a checkpoint on the ride. >From the Rowena Crest Overlook the road once again offered a series of tasty curves as it dropped precipitiously back down into the Gorge, where we once again caught I-84 for a few more miles east. At The Dalles, which is highlighted by one of the massive dams that have tamed the Columbia River, we crossed the river into Washington. Now we were once again in virgin territory. Nan and I have criss-crossed much of Oregon and are very familiar with most of the roads west of the Cascades in Washington. But we have not had much occasion to ride the canyonlands and high meadowlands of the eastern Washington Cascades. Just across the river we turned left onto US Hwy 14, which parallels the Columbia on the north bank of the river. A few miles west we caught Hwy 142 north along the Klickitat River, which took us progressively higher through a beautiful valley to the town of Klickitat. Just north of Klickitat the road got progressively steeper and tighter. The view became increasingly more striking. But little time could be afforded from negotiating the road because of the precipitious dropoff which we rode along. And Nan was doing her best not to look in that direction... Nan is not a fan of dropoffs. I give her a hard time about it and refer to her as a "flatlander", due to her Wisconsin roots. When I was growing up in the Black Hills, we could always tell the "flatlanders" vacationing in the Hills because they crept around curves and along dropoffs at a snail's pace. Actually I suffer from the same malady as Nan--I am not afraid of dropoffs, I just need to be in control when negotiating them. I also have ridden on the back of motorcycles in similar situations, and I hated it. The top of the pass flattened out to high meadowlands just east of Mount Adams. Mount Adams is a snowcone volcanic peak due east of Mt. St. Helen's--which was also a snowcone peak before it blew its top. There we took a west turn onto a side road which wound through high mountain meadows with snowy remnants of winter melting in the shadows. The air was cold enough to make us thankful that we had left our winter gear on, but the views afforded by the twisting roads were well worth the discomfort. At one point we wound back down along the side of a canyon on a road very reminiscent of the road we had come up Klickitat Canyon on...but, thankfully, it had guard rails the entire length of the road. After going through Glenwood, we road along a series of roads that had borne the brunt of winters past and needed some serious repairs in places. But it was of no consequence, as we were in no hurry. We slowly dropped back down to Wahington Hwy 141 and then once again to Hwy 14 along the Columbia River, where we set a course west towards Vancouver, WA, and Portland. Traffic was fairly heavy on Hwy 14, but it was moving along well. Just west of Skamania the road climbs for about 2500' to the top of a prominent bluff on the north side of the river that is popular for sightseers. As it climbs, however, the road becomes very twisty again. As Nan and I came around one turn about 200' from the top, we came upon a grisly scene. A new red Kawasaki Ninja was lying in a tangled heap just off the north side of the road in the dirt and a man in his early 20s was sitting next to the bike. His helmet, which was split open, was lying next to him and he was holding his shoulder and looking very dazed. It was obvious that the accident had just occurred, as a man and a woman from a motorhome were running back to where he sat. Cliff and I parked our bikes off the road; by this time Nan had reached him. It's times like these...that you hope never happen...that I thanked God that Nan was there. Nan is now a Nurse Practitioner and in private practice. Prior to that, however, she was a Critical Care RN with ER experience. By the time Cliff and I got back to the scene, she had already ascertained that the guy had a serious fracture of his right clavicle (collar bone) and that he was in shock. We used a cellular phone to call 911 and we had two county sheriff's units and a highway patrol unit there within minutes. Shortly thereafter an ambulance showed up; by this time Nan had the guy stabilized and recognizing his surroundings. He remembered nothing of the accident. It looked like he had been sweeping around a right-hand curve off the top of the bluff when he lost control and the bike slid out from under him. There was no gravel, dirt, or other debris on the road; the highway patrol officer determined from the slide marks that he was using excessive speed for the curve. The bike slid across the westbound lane; when it hit the dirt by the side of the road it flipped over twice. That was probably when he broke his collar bone and smashed his helmet. The bike initially looked like it had been totaled; but closer examination showed that the fairing, windshield, and mirrors had taken the brunt of the damage. All I can say is: The guy is one lucky dude. With the heavy traffic on the road, it's a miracle that he didn't slide into the path of a westbound car or motorcycle. There were 600 motorcycles riding the Rose City 250 on that road, along with tons of cars and trucks. Unbelievable that he didn't get hit. And...considering the way the bike flipped...it's also a miracle that he didn't have head or neck injuries. The helmet was split like a melon...but it did its job. All in all, it took about an hour to take care of him and clear the wreckage; then we were on our way again. Our very sobered way again. When we got back to Beaverton Honda---275 miles in all on the ride--we also heard initial reports of a wreck involving one of the participants in the 250. Remember the Klickitat River dropoff? There was a group of 5-6 bikes riding together up that stretch of road when suddenly the guy who was leading them revved up and went singing off out of sight around a bend. A few minutes later the rest of his group found that he had tried to take a 35-mph curve at over 70 mph (the highway patrol's estimate), parted company with the road, and ended up 20 feet down in a ravine. All I know is that they had to life flight him out by helicopter to a local hospital to try and stabilize him before transferring him to a Portland trauma center and his condition was very, very serious. Say a prayer for him if you are so inclined; he'll need it. It was a very sobering end to what was initially a gorgeous day and a magnificent ride. I don't think that it took away from the enjoyment of the ride as much as it reminded me that...even though we are ultimately responsible for our actions...the consequences of those actions can sometimes affect many others. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,725 Miles and Riding -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 08:19:44 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Joke with a thought... To: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" , "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, Ben Brown Here's a little ditty that I want to share!! Please note there's a thought an idea at the end, that I hope you all read. > >A blonde walks into a beauty salon to get a hair cut with headphones on. The > >hairdresser asks her to take them off for the haircut and she replies "I >can't, I'll die. She proceeds to cut her hair and it looks awful. Six weeks > >later the same blonde comes in for another haircut. The hairdresser pleads >with her "Please take your headphones off - I can make your hair look >beautiful. Once again the blonde replies "I can't, I'll die". So she >receives another awful haircut. > >Six weeks later the blonde show up at the salon and once again the >hairdresser >says "Please take your headphones off - I can make your hair beautiful if you > >would just take off the headphones". "I can't, I'll die". The hairsylist >proceeds to cut her hair. While doing so the blonde falls asleep. The >hairsylist quickly thinks to herself - I will remove the headphones and >replace before she wakes up and make her hair beautiful. Seconds after doing > >this the blonde falls off the chair. The hairdresser checked her and she >wasn't breathing. Dying to know what was keeping her alive with the >headphones on she places them on her head. The message reads "Breath in, >Breath Out - Breath In, Breath out. > A point I'd like to make is that now that another riding season is upon us, maybe the tape we should be listening to is SLOW DOWN, enjoy the scenary, and ride within your limits. Enjoy life, life is short, lets have a SAFE year out there!!! one of the main purpose's of the HSTA is to PROMOTE SAFTEY!!! RIDE SAFELY Y"ALL!!! Fireman Joe Cincinnati, Ohio HSTA 90PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 07:35:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Joe Beresford cc: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" , "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, Ben Brown Subject: Re: PC800: Joke with a thought... Joe, Man does that hit home! I'm currently taking the MSF Motorcycle Safety Instructor course and I've really come to understand the message in that ditty. Thanks! Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Joe Beresford wrote: > > Here's a little ditty that I want to share!! > Please note there's a thought an idea at the end, that I hope you all read. > > > > >A blonde walks into a beauty salon to get a hair cut with headphones on. The > > > >hairdresser asks her to take them off for the haircut and she replies "I > >can't, I'll die. She proceeds to cut her hair and it looks awful. Six weeks > > > >later the same blonde comes in for another haircut. The hairdresser pleads > >with her "Please take your headphones off - I can make your hair look > >beautiful. Once again the blonde replies "I can't, I'll die". So she > >receives another awful haircut. > > > >Six weeks later the blonde show up at the salon and once again the > >hairdresser > >says "Please take your headphones off - I can make your hair beautiful if you > > > >would just take off the headphones". "I can't, I'll die". The hairsylist > >proceeds to cut her hair. While doing so the blonde falls asleep. The > >hairsylist quickly thinks to herself - I will remove the headphones and > >replace before she wakes up and make her hair beautiful. Seconds after doing > > > >this the blonde falls off the chair. The hairdresser checked her and she > >wasn't breathing. Dying to know what was keeping her alive with the > >headphones on she places them on her head. The message reads "Breath in, > >Breath Out - Breath In, Breath out. > > > > A point I'd like to make is that now that another riding season is upon us, > maybe the tape we should be listening to is SLOW DOWN, enjoy the scenary, > and ride within your limits. > Enjoy life, life is short, lets have a SAFE year out there!!! > one of the main purpose's of the HSTA is to PROMOTE SAFTEY!!! > > RIDE SAFELY Y"ALL!!! > Fireman Joe > Cincinnati, Ohio > HSTA 90PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 08:02:04 -0600 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: AMA >> And we all have an obligation to join the >> AMA. Unless you like things like motorcycle exclusion health benefits. The AMA does lots of really important things, like fighting health insurance discrimination, but I'd feel a lot better about being a member (I am) if they weren't so anti-"environmentalist" and side with people like the Blue Ribbon Coalition. No intent to open a can of worms, but I wish the organization was a little more responsible in some ways. Bob C. NM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 11:10:03 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: pc800 mail list Subject: PC800: Newbe I'm signing on as a new subscriber to the list. Dick Stafford Aylett, VA. dickie@bealet.com 90 PC 89,000 miles, Bought New 3/13/92 No modifications -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 97 08:36:07 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, VicarDon@aol.com Subject: Re: PC800: Juiced Helmet I've never seen a Shoei RF700 without clearcoat?????? Strange thing. Is it a factory defect? Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Juiced Helmet Author: VicarDon@aol.com at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 4/7/97 7:01 AM I have a Shoei RF700, vivid orange. I don't believe it is clearcoated. Thanks for any responses, Don Bowery, '97 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Apr 97 08:39:01 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, timmacy@juno.com Subject: PC800: Ouch, that's gotta hurt. REPLY TO 04/06/97 23:31 FROM timmacy@juno.com "Timothy B Macy": PC800: Rose City 250 Tim, Great story! But then again all of your trip stories are great. Sorry about having to come across the gory scene and hearing about a fellow trip rider going down. It just goes to show the most important things to remember are BE SAFE, RIDE YOUR OWN RACE, and above all KNOW YOUR OWN LIMITATIONS AND ABILITY. Boy, talk about Nan being in the right place at the right time. That guy doesn't know how lucky he is. Lets hope when he starts physical therapy for his broken clavicle that the pain he experiences will remind him of his actions and that hopefully he won't do it again. Erin in Mountain View, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: timmacy@juno.com cc: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 11:56:23 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: dickie@bealenet.com Cc: pc800 mail list Subject: Re: PC800: Newbe Somebody set their clock ahead one DAY and one HOUR. That saves a lot of daylight. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Newbe Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 11:10:03 -0400 From: Richard Stafford Dickies Cycles To: pc800 mail list That's a good way to get rid of Monday. Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. 07 Apr 1997 09:32:31 -0700 (PDT) <01BC4337.79CEF5C0@cypspain.ug.eds.com>; Mon, 07 Apr 1997 09:38:40 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 09:38:36 -0700 From: Harrison Spain <_spain@edsug.com> Subject: PC800: Southern California PC800 group trip report (April trip to San Diego) To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" April 5, 1997 Trip Report (San Diego) This was my trip to 'organize' but with the group we have here in Southern California, organization is no problem! I have experts both mechanical and electrical. They also know every nook and cranny of the entire state. Given my tendancy to get lost, I always let someone else lead ;-). It was Friday night when I realized I didn't get any clear instructions on how to get to the meeting spot (I've been really busy) :-). I remembered something about meeting at Circuit City by the El-Toro 'Y' at 8:00AM, so about 7:15AM I packed up a bunch of egg rolls for lunch and rode off to see if I could find the place :-). I got off at the El-Toro exit about 7:50AM and the Circuit City was staring me in the face (Whew! The day was shaping up nicely) :-). The weather was a bit cold (sorry for you folks back east but it was about 60 degrees) ;-). It was no more than ten minutes before the bikes started to arrive. Now, I'm terrible with remembering names etc. but I'm absolutely sure there were SEVEN (count 'em) SEVEN PC's! Three red ones and four white ones! And to round out the group, Gale rode in one her Kawasaki (a 600 I believe) to make an even eight :-). Gale proved to be an excellent rider and rode in the middle of the pack most of the day. Little did I know that such a wonderful day would be somewhat marked by what we will forever refer to as the ... "Diesel Incident" ... More about that later.... Phil broke out some hot chocolate from his incredibly well stocked PC800. If you are ever stranded on a deserted island, make sure to bring Phil along! I'm sure he would be able to find a rubber raft in there somewhere! ;-) Phil also brought a couple of extra radios (I believe they were purchased soon thereafter) :-) and he wired up John and Gale. All warmed up and ready to ride, off we went with Phil in the lead. Phil always sets a brisk pace :-). After all, we had an apointment to meet the rest of the group down south by the flower beds and windmill. We skipped running down the Pacific Coast Highway since we were already just a wee bit late and didn't want to keep the folks down south waiting. Phil found the exit easily and we turned off the freeway. Now it is hard to explain the sight but it was truly spectacular to behold. The entire hill was covered with bright bands of full bloom flowers! Thousands and thousands of flowers. Everyone got lot's of pictures. Rusty has already posted some of his but as Rusty pointed out, they can't do the sight justice. What a wonderful spot! http://204.212.147.240/San_diego_trip_4_5_97.htm We met up with the rest of the group in the parking lot. I think Steven and Rusty as I recall (I was too busy trying not to dump the cycle while gawking at the flowers!) :-). Gale: Kawasaki 600 John: PC800 (white) Steven & wife: PC800 (fire engine red) Harrison: PC800 (white) Johan: PC800 (custom white) Rusty: PC800 (Red) Phil: PC800 (Red) Argh! I'm missing somebody on a white PC800! :-) (sorry) Just to be sure we were all on the same level of gas usage, we decided to fill up all the bikes. Across the street we went. Now to be perfectly fair, I was still intoxicated by all the flowers, I had trouble finding the START button on the gas pump for some reason, and the handle *was* green (just like the one at home).... But for whatever reason, I zipped in my credit card, grabbed the nozzle, and pumped 3.5 gallons (yup, right to the top) of DIESEL fuel right into my PC800.... OH MY GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE!.... #$%#$%#$%$%# Well, I was in a panic (why do these things happen to ME; don't answer that!). Phil immediately saw the solution. "You gotta siphon that outta there!". I pushed my PC over to the side and went inside to see if I could borrow a hose (HAH, no way!). While thinking how I was going to buy a hose, I suggested that the group continue on. Phil would have none of that! "We ride as a group!" he said. Next thing I know, Steve walks over with a long rubber hose just perfect for the job! As I recall he had a slight halo around his head that moment! :-) After dumpster diving to find a suitable container and a couple of mouthfuls of diesel, the siphon was working perfectly. I have no idea where the containers of diesel went and at that time I was not worrying, they just continued to come back empty and I filled them up until we could siphon no more. I then filled the tank with Hi-Octane fuel and hoped for the best. To be honest, the PC800 ran perfectly. Only a little puff of smoke came out between 1st and 2nd (according to Steve). Now my riding 'buddies' were all coughing and gagging behind me (all in jest I'm sure!) as we rode but I know that very little smoke came out of there! ;-) I'm now on my third tank of Hi-Octane and have no worries; in short, no damage done :-). At least this delay was only about 30 minutes of fun filled excitement... Off we rode to find the hang glider site. This time, Steve took the lead. I have to report (just to be complete; I *did* include the Diesel Incident after all...) that Steve got lost a couple of times on the way there. You *see*! Once you are in the lead, you simply *lose* all sense of direction! The hang glider site Steve picked out for lunch was just perfect. It is hard to describe but I'll try. Picture a very large grass covered hill with hang gliders covering the back side (one right next to the other). They were all waiting for an opportunity to run down the other side of the hill and off a cliff about 300 ft up from the ocean (yes, some folks do this for fun...) ;-). There was also a small shack serving things to eat. We grabbed a table next to the shack and a few chairs and started breaking out lunch. We watched the parasails(?), hang gliders, remote controlled sail planes, and there was even one FULL SIZE glider that was periodically LAUNCHED off the hill by a long wire connected to an engine. The glider plane would be pulled down the runway and up into the air and then would glide off the cliff into the wind stream. WOW! Several folks there were obviously students riding tandem on the parasails. They would get the parasail 'inflated' over their head, and then run to the end of the cliff and (I swear) you could almost hear the screams as they went over the edge and then the WHEEEEE as they were pulled high into the sky :-). Phil and Rusty headed off looking for some Fried Chicken and ice. They returned fully stocked with all kinds of goodies. To show our good manners (after all we are all PC800 riders here!), we waited to dig in until after they returned :-). Everyone brought so much food, we were all stuffed! There was chicken, and pie, and cole slaw, rolls, coke, egg rolls, and all that was just on MY side of the table! ;-) After spending about an hour, the proprietor came over and commented about our using his table and chairs while bringing our own food! Patty (thinking very fast I might add) grabbed an egg roll and offered a bribe :-). His mood quickly changed, and we were welcome guests! :-) Nicely stuffed and with more sun that we all expected to get ;-), we headed off toward San Diego with Steve in the front. I must admit, I didn't expect the scenery to be quite so spectacular. The day was full of bright sunshine, fluffy clouds, and about 70 degrees. In short, a perfect day for a ride! We headed down the coast staying as close to the shore as possible. The scenery was unbelievable, and I'm not talking just about the ocean. Those ladies jogging are distracting! Rusty amost ran his off the road! We decided to travel all the way out to the Point Lomas light house. It sits at the tip of a long peninsula overlooking San Diego and is well worth the $2 admission price (a special for motorcycles!). We parked in the lot and walked the rest of the way to the light house. The light house was open so that you could climb all the way to the top (not quite into the optical room itself but pretty close). It was tight quarters but well worth the effort. What a magnificent spot! :-) >From the Pt. Lomas light house, we worked our way down the cliff (the sign warns against pedestrians doing this but our trusty PC's had no problem!). At the bottom was a sandy beach. The tide was out and the tide pools were clearly visable as we rode along the strip below the light house. What a VIEW! :-) Back up the hill we went and out toward (as I recall) the "Silver Strand". This is a scenic drive along the beaches of San Diego (mostly owned by the military and very open). Next we went through San Diego itself and over the (I forgot the name) a *very* large and high bridge (don't look to the right... don't look to the right... aaaiiieeee!) ;-). I noticed that most of us stayed in the left portion of the lane as we rode across ;-). We also got a free ride across the bridge (motorcycles ride free!) :-). It was getting late (about 5:30) so we cut inland and headed north. After a short stop at a 7-11 (Slurpee's are best on a motorcycle!), we rode off into the mountains outside of San Diego and got into just a few twisties :-). Steve offered up the lead so I moved to the front and zoomed ahead "Just follow the blue light!". Now I must've been used to having Dave on the back because looking back I saw that the pack was not behind me :-). I slowed down to let them catch up (no I'm *not* a speed demon) ;-). Steve and Patty had a barbeque so they peeled off and headed North. A while later Rusty peeled off and headed East. The remainder were pretty tired and jumped at the offer from Steven for dinner at his place. After all, we had lots of leftover food from our pot luck! :-) Steven you really have to find a nicer neighborhood! ;-) Just kidding! Steven owns a truly magnificent house set up on a hill with a four car garage. Steven joked that he uses all four *really*! He also owns a massage recliner which was used by all. Now if we can just get a 12V model that will strap to a PC800... hmmmm... ;-). Dinner was just perfect! Sitting in front of a crackling fire, light music in the background, we all sat around the table talking motorcycle safty (one of my favorite topics) and the future of the Southern California PC800 Riders Club. I think we are all in agreement that this little association will continue to grow and with the flyers that Steven designed (to be posted in all the local cycle stores), our 'membership' should swell considerably. We have no worries about changing the 'flavor' of the group since as we all know, PC800 riders are the best motorcyclists around! John and Gale were looking at a long haul back to Los Angeles so they opted to get a room for the night leaving Phil, Johan, and myself speeding north late that night (about 9:30pm). I must admit, I really like tight formation flying and that is what we did ;-). The trip north was real easy. For some reason, I was not tired at all. I guess following Morgan's advice on avoidance of a sore butt "Just move around a little!" worked ;-). Everyone arrived home tired, slept in on Sunday (I'm sure) :-) and we all really look forward to the next trip up to Santa Barbara! Johan will be Tour Master on the next trip :-). Faithfully submitted ;-) ... Harrison -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:44:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Eric York To: Poh Yu Seung cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: oil life On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Poh Yu Seung wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got the Owner's maunal and the workshop manual and both these books > state a 6000 mile oil change interval. I assume this is for 100% > mineral oils. > > I've put in 100% synthetic and am wondering if I should stretch the life > of the oil. Perhaps changing it every 10,000 miles instead? They > (synthetic oil manufacturers) claim very long life for their oils so > when should I drain out the stuff? > ZOINKS! I would never go 6k miles, even with synthetic. There are a couple things to keep in mind when determining oil change intervals. first, vehicle manufacturers use statistics to determine recommended maintenance intervals. In effect, it goes like this: "At miles between oil changes, _most_ of our vehicles will last for the life that _most_ owners will expect of them." The manufacturer is not interested in maximizing engine life. The manufacturer _is_ interested in making the vehicle appear as hassle free to own and operate as possible, while keeping warranty claims, complaints regarding lifespan, etc. to an acceptable level (determined by them, not you. ;) Also _counted on_ by the manufacturer is that few owners keep their vehicle for its entire lifespan. An example: My father has an '83 Ford Thunderbird with recommended 12,000 mile oil change interval! Ludicrous! The oil looked like 90wt sludge the first time he did this. Needless to say, he no longer follows this interval. ;) Additionally, as I'm sure you know (but worth stressing), oil life is heavily influenced by the type of use your vehicle gets. Short trips and high revs are very stressful to your oil. I would go 5k miles on synthetic if on a long trip. normally I go about 3k even with synthetic, but I am a bit compulsive about wanting bikes last as long as possible. I have no doubt the oil _could_ last longer, but I would never feel comfortable going 12k or 18k (!) between changes. The cost, to me, is worth the peace of mind I have in return. As always, YMMV Eric York -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:04:24 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:58:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Dolin Subject: Re: PC800: Southern California PC800 group trip report (April trip to San Diego) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu REPLY TO 04/07/97 10:49 FROM _spain@edsug.com "Harrison Spain": PC800: Southern California PC800 group trip report (April trip to San Diego) Harrison, Great report! Don't you just love being in California! (Oh, sorry to all you easterners still trying to thaw.) Erin in beautiful northern CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: _spain@edsug.com cc: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:24:12 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gordon Golder Subject: PC800: Tim and Harrison's reports Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:24:12 +0000 Wow - two great writers related their recent trips for us. Tim, can Nan ride with me the next time I take a long trip? Harrison, you tell a good story too. Actually your sympathies for us upper midwesterners and easterners are appreciated. We will pass ours on to you when it's a cool 70 here and 105 down your way. Well folks, Michigan had two great days of riding last week, but last night strong winds blew in and the cold returned. During those two days I put on about 200 miles. BTW, stay out of Michigan. (This negates the guvs campaign "Say Yes to Michigan"). But,The guv can't find money to fix the hiways and particularly on a motorcycle the holes are murder. But, the weather was nice. Keep the stories of rides coming. It gives us hope!!! I'll post one late in May after heading to North Carolina, Atlanta, and Orlando. (I know, Tim, Orlando in May in wimpish after your Orlando in February) Regards to all (BTW there's no rancor on this list, are you all Saints?? Great place to visit and hang out!!!) Gordon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: Erin.Dolin@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Erin Dolin), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:45:42 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Southern California PC800 gr Erin... you wrote... > Harrison, > > >Great report! Don't you just love being in California! (Oh, sorry >to all you easterners still trying to thaw.) > >Erin in beautiful northern CA Well, not all of us are trying to thaw ! It's in the low 70's here in my part of CT, and so I am going to the dealer tommorrow to pick up my PC ! Yeah! Yippee! fsl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'deselms@royal.net'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Helmet Laws/Eye Protection Laws Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:44:52 -0700 http://www.ama-cycle.org/amaccess.html. See the "Motorcycle Laws" button at the bottom of the page. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-12039) with SMTP id ABA130 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:12:27 -0900 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: First Ride of the Year! Date: 07 Apr 97 11:47:12 KDT Well, got the PC out for the first time this year! This past weekend the weather has been in the high 40's-low 50's and sunshine. Still is a little chilly when moving but it's great after the doom and gloom of winter to finally be on it again. (BIG SMILE) Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska 1994 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA00769; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:21:52 -0400 (EDT) To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Momma's Ride in OH this Saturday Hi Gang (and I use the term loosely), I'd like to make up for the lack of a newsletter with a ride. I plan on going to the Momma's ride in OH on Saturday. I'll be leaving Chicago on Friday evening with tent and heading for Indianapolis. It appears that Carl Fried is leading a group, which may include our Fearless Leader Moose, from Indianapolis to Middletown Junction, OH which is about an hour North of Cincinatti. There we will meet up with the contingent from Cincy and head for Leesburg, OH (site of Momma's Rest., the plan being to arrive there about 1 to 1:30pm. After the feast the Cincy group heads back. I may be going a bit further east and South for a return trip on Sunday. Carl and Moose, if any of the above is true, when and from where are you leaving on Saturday morning? Also, can I use your lawn? Any takers from the IL contingent? Z P.S. I've got my watch set now. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 15:50:26 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Motorcycle Safety Website For those of you in SCPCRC who saw the articles that I had printed up concerning safety, ride ediquette, and other motorcycle related subjects, the site is as follows: http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesdavis/TIPS.html There are over 100 different articles plus the multi-site recounting of a nasty target fixation accident. The latter is good to read in that it not only talks about the dynamics of the accident but also the reactions and thinking of those people who saw, tried to help, or experienced it. It will really make you think about how you would act/react in such a situation. Another really "boss" site is: http://www.coffey.com/%7Eglwidup/home.html Don't let the music surprise you. I had the volume up and I wasn't expecting it. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 697 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 19:14:29 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: dickie@bealenet.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Newbe Richard Stafford wrote: > > I'm signing on as a new subscriber to the list. > 90 PC 89,000 miles, Bought New 3/13/92 Welcome aboard! Does anyone know if 89,000 miles is some kind of record for a single owner? gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: GAG@WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Gordon Golder), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:22:47 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Tim and Harrison's reports on 7-apr-1997 Gordon Golder wrote: >Regards to all (BTW there's no rancor on this list, are you all Saints?? >Great place to visit and hang out!!!) > >Gordon Well Gordon, I can't speak for the other members of this list, but at least I have the word SAINT in my name! Francois Saint Laurent 95 PC800, 482 miles, and about to increase!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 19:26:18 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Eric York CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: oil life Eric York wrote: > ZOINKS! I would never go 6k miles, even with synthetic. Ditto. I change at around 3,000 miles. I use spectro 10w-40 non-synthetic. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeff Hopkins" To: "Gary E. Klim" , "Eric York" Cc: "PC-800 E-Mail Group" Subject: Re: PC800: oil life Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:49:00 -0500 I have used Castrol Syntec 5W50 for the last 50k on my '89 PC800. I have gone as long as 8000 miles and the oil could still be seen thru when I was on the ground watching the oil drain in the direction of the sun. The bike runs like brand new and I'm a believer in Syntec. I ride my bike alot so the oil gets changed often. I usually go 5 - 6k between changes. Jeff Hopkins '89 PC800 w/54k ---------- > From: Gary E. Klim > To: Eric York > Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group > Subject: Re: PC800: oil life > Date: Monday, April 07, 1997 6:26 PM > > Eric York wrote: > > > ZOINKS! I would never go 6k miles, even with synthetic. > > Ditto. I change at around 3,000 miles. I use spectro 10w-40 > non-synthetic. > > gk > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net > ________________________________________________________________________ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Guy in Town From: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 20:02:13 EDT Greetings Everyone-- New to the list but have been eavesdropping on you for a couple of weeks now. Thought it about time to jump in, since you all sound very friendly and we share the PC common interest. A little personal background. About three years ago I decided to get back into motorcycling after about 30 years of the sedate, practical life that one leads as he raises a family, pays bills, etc. Not that the "bills" part has gone away, but my two sons have (both to California), leaving my wife and me to resume some of the frivolous things that we did in days gone by. I decided that a bike might add a new dimension. My previous riding was done primarily in Bermuda, where I spent 2 1/2 years in the Air Force. Of course, as those of you who have been to Bermuda are well aware, the motorcycles there aren't very big--250cc or so maximum, as I recall. So, I thought that I probably wouldn't want a bike that was too big this time. My older son had a Yamaha Radian and I knew that it was a decent machine, so I sought and found one that was in great shape('86 w/11,000 mi). I then went out and took the MSF course to get my "M" endorsement to my license. Well you guys know the punch line to this story! It wasn't six months before my eyes started wandering over the classified ads "just to see what other motorcycles were out there". I wound up with a '92 Virago to add to my stable. Then, this past November (a good time to buy bikes in New England I've found) I looked again in my local paper and saw an ad for a Candy Red Pacific Coast. I was familiar with the PC as a friend had one. His was the '89 and, quite frankly, the pearl color didn't do much for me. Out of curiosity as much as anything else I went to see what a Candy Red one would look like. Talk about love at first sight!! It was absolutely pristine with only 2400 miles. The guy I bought it from was middle-aged (I could relate), and he showed me his bill of sale and receipts for the service work he had done when he bought it about eighteen months ago. At that time the bike had only about 1000 miles. I was reassured to know that the period of idleness was before he had bought it and that the bike had had some good steady use since. He was about to get a job transfer so wanted to sell the PC before he left. His intention is to get either a Wing or BMW of some variety when he gets settled again. I've been able to put about 300 miles on the bike throughout the winter (unusually open weather this year) and it runs like the proverbial well-oiled watch. That's a thumbnail sketch of this new guy. I don't know that I'll be able to contribute much of value to the discourse on the party line. However, I really do appreciate the valuable info that you all have to offer. I have already saved 29 messages in a folder dealing with maintenance, accessories, pointers, etc. Best regards, Stan B. (also in central Connecticut, Gary K.) PS My wife's a great sport. She's let me keep all three bikes-- although I've promised to sell the Radian. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout25.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA12203 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:15:36 -0400 (EDT) cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: oil life I use Mobil One. I change my oil and oil filter every 3,000 miles. That is probably overkill, and does nothing for the bike, but makes me feel a lot better. When the oil comes out, it is dirty, which means it is really cleaning the engine. I have read the different reports that say oil is oil, but Mobil One sure seems to make the PC shift better . Most likely my imagination. Lets not get into a protracted discussion on oil. We have done that before, and it all is in the archives. Bernie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA08239 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:24:12 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Joke with a thought... In a message dated 97-04-07 09:31:35 EDT, you write: << A point I'd like to make is that now that another riding season is upon us, maybe the tape we should be listening to is SLOW DOWN, enjoy the scenary, and ride within your limits. Enjoy life, life is short, lets have a SAFE year out there!!! one of the main purpose's of the HSTA is to PROMOTE SAFTEY!!! >> This one's worth copying. Amen brother. Eric Trow Indianridr@aol.com '50 Indian Chief '89 Honda PC 800 '53 BMW R25 (single) '64 Honda 305 Superhawk '66 Honda 305 Dream Soon to have '98 Honda VTR1000 Super Hawk -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: dickie@bealenet.com (dickie) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC-800 E-Mail Group) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:23:58 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Newbe Richard Stafford wrote: > > I'm signing on as a new subscriber to the list. > 90 PC 89,000 miles, Bought New 3/13/92 Hi Richard. Welcome to the list. I just got here myself, about a month ago. you will soon learn that this list is made up of a bunch of really great folks. In my short time here, I have gotten loads of valuable advice. so tell me.....what major maintenance have you had to do, with the 89,000 miles on your PC? I have heard that these bikes are very reliable. What is your overall impression? Thanks...and happy riding... fsl '95 PC800 482 miles -> soon to increase! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 20:59:19 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: More Weather...But Relevant Strange morning at the river. No fog (contrary to predictions) but enough condensation on the roads that they are actually wet. Take truck to work. Leave my windowless place of employment for a look outside around noon. Immediately go home, drop off truck and bring PC back to work. I *still* get strange looks as I walk through the building in full leathers... I guess they've never seen "supplemental health insurance" in basic black before. :-) gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: klassc@webspan.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Motorcycle Consumer News Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 20:28:45 EDT Hear Hear! On Sun, 06 Apr 1997 14:16:33 -0500 Chris Klass writes: >MCN is an ABSOLUTE MUST!!! And we all have an obligation to join the >AMA. Unless you like things like motorcycle exclusion health >benefits. > > >Chris Klass >Still looking >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: klassc@webspan.net Cc: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: B$M$W$ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 20:28:45 EDT You guys were talking abt BMW vs. PC. In 1969 I bot a new R60. Not long after a BMW buddy got killed on his BMW. I sold mine and bot a pool w/ the proceeds and some savings. Soon I got a rusty sportster and restored it. Then I got a 2nd bike, a '64 R50. Point is, I believe the PC (I've a 96) sounds & feels like my old BMWs. The sound of it winding out and the clunk of the gears and the heavy flywheel. Anyone else out there ever have both those types of bikes? What do u think of my impression? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: oil life From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 07 Apr 1997 21:24:46 -0500 Lines: 15 >>>>> "B" == BernieK469 writes: B> I have read the different reports that say oil is oil, but Mobil One B> sure seems to make the PC shift better . Most likely my imagination. I'm not so sure. I made the mistake of putting Syntec 5W50 in my bike just once (yes, I know others swear by it) and the clutch started slipping constantly and the transmission sounded and felt like it had gravel in it. I did two changes of good old dino, then put in Mobil1 15W40 and it shifts so much smoother. I think the Syntec was just too light in the Texas heat when starting, but who knows. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Newbe From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 07 Apr 1997 21:25:53 -0500 Lines: 9 >>>>> "GEK" == Gary E Klim writes: GEK> Does anyone know if 89,000 miles is some kind of record for a single GEK> owner? I think Derek Catt had way more than that on his second PC before he got his ST. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: oil life From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 23:01:15 EDT I must go w/Jason on this. Your 50/50 is neither John F. Kennedy nor is it Mobil1. The FAA is a big disappointment in many ways to those of us familiar with aviation but let me tell you---there was some heavy documentation before they gave Mobil1 (AV1) their blessings. Also I felt that it gave my Harley compression like a cork out of a champagne bottle. Mobil has or had an 800 line to discuss products with you. The prod. rep. I talked to said they had a Harley they tested with Mobil1 and ran it night and day for weeks and I don't recall the miles but when they pulled it down it was one different engine than the one on non-synthetic. Anyone ever try the boiling of the oil in the 2 frying pans comparison they do on tv? Try it. Post your results here. Ciao huomi. On 07 Apr 1997 21:24:46 -0500 Jason L Tibbitts III writes: >>>>>> "B" == BernieK469 writes: > >B> I have read the different reports that say oil is oil, but Mobil >One >B> sure seems to make the PC shift better . Most likely my >imagination. > >I'm not so sure. I made the mistake of putting Syntec 5W50 in my bike >just >once (yes, I know others swear by it) and the clutch started slipping >constantly and the transmission sounded and felt like it had gravel in >it. >I did two changes of good old dino, then put in Mobil1 15W40 and it >shifts >so much smoother. > >I think the Syntec was just too light in the Texas heat when starting, >but >who knows. > > - J< >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 05:52:42 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Stan Brady CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New Guy in Town Stan Brady wrote: > > That's a thumbnail sketch of this new guy. I don't know that I'll be > able to contribute much of value to the discourse on the party line. > Ah, but you already have! Welcome to the crowd and happy riding. :) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 723 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA18739 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 09:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 09:13:09 -0400 (EDT) cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC800/BMW Comnparison Last year I spent 5 days riding a BMW 850, and attending one of the most demanding slowing riding schools in the country. This was part of preparation for being a courier, bringing film and news tape from the different venues (events) to a central distribution and processing point, during the Olympics in Atlanta. The driving school was conducted by the motorcycle officer in charge of advance training for the motorcycle officers of Dade Country Florida supported by a California C.H.I.P. Officer. The quality of instruction was above excellent. The training course consisted of the normal designs, but in much tighter formations. To negotiate the course it was necessary to turn the steering to full locked position and lean the bike to reduce the turning radius using a feathering technique on the rear brake and always riding (slipping) the clutch to maintain control. (The clutch was never fully engaged, but always in a "gray area.") The last design was called the intersection. It was the one I could not accomplish. The intersection was four, 15 feet wide and 25 feet deep boxes, forming a + sign. Seven feet from the end of each box was a turning cone. The idea was to enter the intersection from the left side and ride between each turning cone and the end of the box, going around the inside of the design until exiting from the left side. It was just beyond my skill level without a few days of practice. The purpose of this report is not to discuss training techniques, but to compare the BMW 850 to our Pacific Coasts. I had the BMW available 24 hours each day, and rode it in all different kinds of conditions, and over many differ types roads. The BMW is a lighter and a much quicker bike than the PC. It rides and handles like a high priced German luxury auto. It is very sure footed. It is much less affected by varying wind conditions and the turbulence caused by large vehicles. But, you ride on the BMW, not in it as you do the PC. The BMW feels every indentation of the road, where PC generates a flat stable feeling, gliding over all by the most obtrusive road variances. The BMW has vibration in every range from idling to 100 m.p.h. The rear view mirrors at 80 M.P.H. are vibrating to the extend that you can see the car behind you, but you couldn't tell if it were a patrol car. The BMW is very noisy. It was difficult to get street directions from a pedestrian without turning off the engine. The engine noise increases as speed increases. The bike from the side appears to be very quiet, but not from the driver's position. The torque pull on the BMW is very noticeable. A slight throttle twist when standing still in neutral will sent the bike strongly to the right. (The BMW engine was developed in 1923, I believe to be used in aircraft.) The seating position of the BMW is more reminiscent of a sport bike, forcing your body forward and placing a portion of your upper torso weight, through your arms, onto the handlebars, with your feet tucked in behind you. The seat is more comfortable than the PC's (no hard ass syndrome), but because of the sport riding position, after a while, your shorts ride up and try to strangle your gonads. The BMW 850 I rode had the small, but very effective, faring and the two side/saddle bags. The faring reduced the wind turbulence by disturbing the on rushing air, but made no attempt to directly shelter the driver. The saddle bags carried less than the PC boot, and were somewhat cumbersome to use. The bags had the advantage of being detachable, but weighed a ton and were ungainly to carry. We used the bags to import beer at night into the dry college campus where we were housed. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 08 Apr 1997 10:09:39 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 10:54:10 -0400 From: Christopher Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Ins. Does anyone have the numbers for Rider, Progessive, and any other carriers? I am NJ. Please respond back to this e-mail address. Chris Still Looking -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:29:07, -0500 To: BernieK469@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: PC800/BMW Comnparison >BernieK wrote:Last year I spent 5 days riding a BMW 850, and attending one of the most >demanding slowing riding schools in the country. This was part of preparation >for being a courier, etc. etc. In addition to Bernie's comments, add that the BMW clutch leaves much to be desired. My left hand started cramping during the course due to it's constantly needing adjustment and from all the clutch slipping the instructors insisted that you use. After the Olympics I ordered my PC. Nuff said. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Apr 97 16:15:02 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Used PC800s for sale - Cycle Trader 4/8/97 Disclaimer: The information below is Copyright © 1996 Trader Publishing Company; All Rights Reserved; This document is to be used for only informational, non-commercial uses. Also, I don't have any additional information on these listings, please don't email me with any specific questions about any of these listings. Thanks. - pauly ========================================= 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST - exc cond w/12K mi, brand new Metzeler tires & batt, $3500 & you can own this like new Honda, 602-971-0462. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST - 60 mpg, 22k mi, has CB, nice pinstripping, $4500, 602-830-2006. $ 4,500. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST 800, absolutely mint, low mi., $3895, fin. avail., Cycle Rider, 202 Braniff, 281 N. exit Nakoma, 210-349-9534, San Antonio, TX. $ 3,895. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST - 14,000 mi, pearl white, garaged, cover, new rear tire, $3800 obo, lv msg or after 5:00, ask for Mike 602-464-1264. $ 3,800. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC-COAST, 800cc touring bike, built-in luggage & ready to go. $3495. HI COUNTRY POWER SPORTS, sales, parts, service & accessories. 541-884-6500. Klamath Falls, Or $ 3,495 1989 HONDA PC-800, "Pacific Coast," great sport-touring motorcycle in excellent condition, meticulously maintained, includes standard & touring windshields, factory backrest, bagliners, ride anywhere with confidence, $3,500, 412-793-0424. ========================================= Average cost of all 1989 models in this search: $3780 ========================================= 1990 Honda Pacific Coast, EC, $3900 (910)625-3776 ASHEBORO 1990 Pacific Coast HONDA absolutely perfect shape, only 7k miles, asking $4500, 352-596-8028, Spring Hill, dlr. $ 4,500. 1990 HONDA Pacific Coast, bought new '92, low mi., exc. cond., candy apple red, $4950 obo, days 970-668-5057 or eves. 303-569-3310, $4,950. ========================================= Average cost of all 1990 models in this search: $4650 ========================================= 1994 Honda Pacific Coast 800 cc, black & silver, cb, corbin seat, rear spoiler, tall windshield, also included is stock seat and windshield, always garaged, serviced, 23K, EC, $4900 (910)679-8031 YADKINVILLE NC 9711-180-16 $4,900. 1994 HONDA Pacific Coast, 800 CC, Black-Gray, 7500 Miles, Mint 3YR Warranty, $4800 315-724-3444 NEW HARTFORD $ 4,800. 1994 HONDA PACIFIC COAST. 3800 MILES. FACTORY STEREO, BACKREST. BLACK AND SILVER. OF COURSE IT'S BETTER THAN NEW. $ 5600. JIM FREDERICK 719-495-4290 COLORADO 1994, honda, pacific coast, $4800, showroom cond. black and gray. wired for sound on the road. only 7500 miles. 800cc. very clean. 3 yr. warranty included.upstate ny. e mail dooviem@aol.com or 315 724 3444 dave email: dooviem@aol.com, (315) 724-3444 $ 4,800. 1994, Honda, Pacific Coast, $5100, PC800, black/silver, excellent condition, new metzelers, recent factory service, always garaged. New house, new baby, no time. Call Andy in Petaluma. 707-765-2850 email: tsn1@pacbell.net $5,100. ========================================= Average cost of all 1994 models in this search: $5040 ========================================= 1996 Honda Pacific Coast, w/back rest, 2300 miles, mint condition, $6800; (216)884-9172 PARMA HTS $ 6,800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright © 1996 Trader Publishing Company All Rights Reserved This document is to be used for only informational, non-commercial uses. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 13:03:33 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG CC: BernieK469@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: PC800/BMW Comnparison GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG wrote: > > >BernieK wrote:Last year I spent 5 days riding a BMW 850, and > attending one of the most > >demanding slowing riding schools in the country. This was part of > preparation > >for being a courier, etc. etc. > > In addition to Bernie's comments, add that the BMW clutch leaves much > to be desired. My > left hand started cramping during the course due to it's constantly > needing adjustment and from all the clutch slipping the instructors > insisted that you > use. After the Olympics I ordered my PC. Nuff said. > > ____ > Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com > '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Gordon, although I like all motorcycles there was a time a couple of years ago that my garage consisted of a BMW RT, the PC, and a GL1100. I sold the BMW, sold the GL1100 and replaced it with a GL1500, and I'm still riding the PC. The most miles were consistently on the PCC and still is. It's a very underrated, overlooked motorcycle. Thanks, Dick -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 10:34:45 -0700 From: Johan Lai To: PC800 mailing list Subject: PC800: Old Article Someone mentioned to go check out an old issue of Popular Mechanices (sorry, forgot who you were) so I dug it up. After seeing the article, I now remember that that was my first encounter with the PC. My first thought was "I can never afford something like that." I was fresh out of college and flat broke from the loans. I guess dreams do come true :) I scanned the article and Rusty Jasckson has put it up on his site for your viewing pleasure: http://204.212.147.240/images/scpcrc/pmpc.jpg Cheers, Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 8 Apr 97 17:32:56 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Women on the road The following is a brief bio of Alyn Shannon, editor of the Online Magazine, Women of the Road. There is a website ( http://www.dgi.net/women-of-the-road/ ) created by women for women dedicated to cycling. It is refreshing alternative, considering the plethera of cycle sites out there that tend to objectify the fairer sex. The bio is taken from the web site. How does this relate to the PC800? There's a mention in the text, see below. - pauly =========== I bought my first motorcycle from my dad in 1976. It was a Honda 175. I rode to vo-tech school and to my 3 part-time jobs on it. I felt like I was the only "girl" in the city who rode a bike. After someone took a right turn into me from the left lane, I gave up riding for a while. I gave the bike back to my dad, he fixed it up and continued to ride it. I hear my grandmother tell stories of how she used to do handstands on the back of old Harleys® up and down the main drag. Maybe this cycle thing is in the blood. In the mid-80s my husband, son and I got into Enduro/trail riding at the cabin. I had a Honda XL125, and that bike was like a rocket. We had a lot of fun on a course we set up through the woods. And while I was racing one of my husbands friends, I took a jump too fast and flew over the handle bars. To this day I still tease him that I was in front. My next bike was a Sportster 883. My husband had picked me up from the airport after a work trip, drove us home, and as he pulled into the driveway, said "Now, don't get mad...," opened the garage door, and there it was! What a wonderful surprise. We had been looking through the paper and discussing it because his Heritage was coming in, and he knew I would want to pilot my own. For Christmas of '94 my favorite present was a new tank which I had custom painted with angels. I decorated my bike with flowers and ribbons for my trip to Sturgis and have left them on. I got a kick out of guys telling me how cute my bike was. One afternoon I was backing into a space to park and the big dude sitting on his bike next to me said,"There better be a bitch on that bike". I figure it cuts down on the possibility of theft. Now I'm riding a '95 Springer. At first I was nervous about going to the bigger bike - but soon realized the benefits of its size (A much smoother ride)! I had the bike custom painted in irredescent purples with decorative pinstriping and added lots of chrome, and of course, an angel motif on the tank. I also added some flowers and ribbons by the back turn signals. I like to ride with my friends. The group keeps growing. My Mom and dad come along too. Dad now has a brand new Honda Pacific Coast. I tease that they look like space aliens with their matching helmets and microphones. We have a lot of fun. Riding is the one thing that I can do and get away from everything else. It is so hard to describe all the reasons why I like to ride. I guess you just have to ride one to know. Back to this idea I had... Women of the Road. I published the book because I didn't like the fact that there wasn't much out there that represents the woman rider in a spirited, dignified light. I hope my efforts inspire women to ride, and shatters some of the stereotypes about females associated with motorcycles. By purchasing the book you are contributing to the existence of the Women of the Road website. The on-line magazine portion of Women of the Road is to provide a forum for women riders on a global basis. And I thought it could be alot of fun. I am continually amazed at the support, curiosity and controversy this page has generated. If there is a commonality in it all, it is passion. Passion for life, passion for beliefs. Please participate to make this a valuable space for all Women of the Road. Alyn Shannon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 14:14:02 -0500 From: Keith W Rogers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Women on the road Paul Hayes wrote: > > http://www.dgi.net/women-of-the-road/ This URL did not work for me. I did a Yahoo! search and found: http://www.dgi.net/Women-of-the-Road/ This works for me. YMMV. -- Keith W Rogers rogersk@eden.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 13:52:15 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Corbin Seat for PC 800 Alright! My Corbin came yesterday several weeks before they said it would. I of course waited at least thirty seconds before unpacking and installing it. Since I have already installed a GIVI rack with a Maxia box plus hooked up an LED third brakelight I was quite familiar with the struggle of getting the rear seat bolts aligned in order to screw them in. I am also quite familiar with the sorry reputation Corbin has incurred in the past for their poor-to-impossible fit. The seat's comfort is however without parallel and that aspect plus their reassurance that they have changed the seat pan is what prompted me to purchase one. I am happy to say that the fit problems are now a thing of the past, at least for mine. After removing the stock seats and the rack I laid the rear seat on the bike and visually checked the mounting holes with a flashlight. Perfect alignment. I then put the GIVI rack in its position and slid/wobbled a mounting bolt in one hole as far as it would go. Again I visually (with a flashlight) aligned the open mounting hole on the same side. This takes some pressure and push/pulling. TRICK!!! While holding the seat in that alignment I then slid a large phillips screwdriver in the hole all the way into the frame to keep it in place so I could thread the other bolt without cross threading or spin searching while shoving the seat around. Once you have one bolt threaded put the other in and screw it in. Don't cinch either one down until you get the other side sucessfuly threaded. To do that just do the same procedure. For me the installation was more difficult because the GIVI rack extends the length of the mounting holes with likewise extended bolts. Also you have three things to align (GIVI, handle and seat) not two. Took about twenty minutes. The front seat slid in 90% of the way with no effort. That last ten percent however took some shoving. Their front seat pan could use an small area of relief where the sidepanel arches over the side frame. As a result it's a tight fit but it goes (using the bigger hammer theory of engineering). Once in place the bolts went in easily. I may take it off again and Dremel (is that a verb?) some of the pan away to let it slide on easily. The seat is a completely different feel than the stock seat. It is much firmer but the fit matches my butt better. It also looks sharp with black basketweave seat,charcoal sides and bright red welting. On my Brrright Rrred '96 it looks like it is the way it was supposed to be (whatever that means). I'll post another article on how to intall the LED third brakelight. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 723 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Spectro Golden...Opinions? From: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 18:21:33 EDT Thanks to all for the kind welcoming wishes. I look forward to "chatting" with you in the future. In the meantime, one more oil question. Where does Spectro synthetic (Golden 10W-40) fit into your opinion hierarchy? Stan B. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 20:30:19 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Stan Brady Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Spectro Golden...Opinions? > In the meantime, one more oil question. Where does Spectro synthetic > (Golden 10W-40) fit into your opinion hierarchy? Top 'o the list. Improves shifting almost as much as Honda HP. Mobil 1 is second on my list (15w50). Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA17682; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 23:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 23:42:30 -0400 (EDT) To: rochambeau@juno.com cc: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: B$M$W$ In a message dated 97-04-08 10:29:27 EDT, you write: << Point is, I believe the PC (I've a 96) sounds & feels like my old BMWs. The sound of it winding out and the clunk of the gears and the heavy flywheel. Anyone else out there ever have both those types of bikes? What do u think of my impression? >> I've had the old '60s slash-2 Beemers (including a 69 R60US) as well as 70s and 80s era BMWs. I agree that the PC has similar characteristics, but I tend to associate it more with the 80's vintage BMW twins (engine-wise). The old BMWs were real tractors. The PC will accelerate and has power comparable to the R100 more so than the 600 or 750 series twins. Just my 2 cents. BTW, it's absolutely nothing like my '53 BMW single. Regards, ET. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:27:59 -0400 (EDT) To: schrchll@inetworld.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat for PC 800 Steve, How many $$$ for the seat these days? Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: Momma's Ride - IL Chapter Ok Gang, Here's the deal (barring a snow storm). Leave Chicago about 6 to 7pm on Friday. Arrive in Indy about 10pm. Good nights sleep and up early to the East Side on Indy, the infamous Steak & Shake. Then we follow the crowd to Momma's. If the weather doesn't fight us, this will be a great way to start the riding season. So come gang, let's GOOOOO !!!!!! Any WI riders up to the challenge???? I-465 (east) and US 40, Steak & Shake, leave at 7:00 AM . Stop in Rushville, IN. to pick eastern members (me, Moose) at 8:00 AM. Z 773-235-0933 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA25636; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:26:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hondaline quartz clock - Honda Accessories digital clock In a message dated 97-03-25 03:12:31 EST, pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk (VR2XVI) writes: << I have a small digital clock velcro mount between the choke handle and the Honda metallic emblem. It is a Honda Accessories product from Japan, available from my local Honda dealer here in Hong Kong, cost $170 (US$22), not cheap but gives a perfect match to the bike. And it is waterproof. >> I have a little quartz digital that I stick onto the dash which I bought at an auto parts store for $3.49. It works perfectly and is almost a perfect color match too... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA16038 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:59:06 -0400 (EDT) To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 1996 Owners... In a message dated 97-03-24 23:15:10 EST, ChrisTUBA@aol.com writes: << One last role call...have any of you 1996 owners who have installed the Corbin had a relatively okay time installing the product, or have all of you experienced nightmares over the subject. >> Chris, I can't speak to the '96, but the installation on my wife's '95 was a nightmare. That wasn't too different from the installation on my '94 Suzuki either. I just bought a '97 CBR900RR and I won't be putting a Corbin on it. I Love the saddles, but the quality control is just too bad and the customer support is non-existent -- unless you are fluent in Spanish and even then it may not be of much use. If I had it to do over again, I would have sent the stock seat to Sargent in FL and had it rebuilt to my specs for less money and I know it would fit when I got it back. Just my two cents worth... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:54:27 CDT by inet1.inetworld.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA14000; Wed, 09 Apr 1997 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 06:56:05 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat for PC 800 To: GuntherSki@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET GuntherSki@aol.com wrote: > > Steve, > > How many $$$ for the seat these days? > > Z $487.00 plus tax -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 751 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:04:47 -0600 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: B$M$W$ >Point is, I believe the PC (I've a 96) sounds & feels like my old BMWs. >What do u think of my impression? My PC runs like I thought my Beemer would, but didn't. Feels much better! Bob C. NM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:21:44 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:28:19 -0400 From: JAN DEROOS To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: My brother still has the '66 BMW R69S that almost killed me 20 years ago. The Beemer is a beast com My brother still has the '66 BMW R69S that almost killed me 20 years ago. The Beemer is a beast compared to the PC, but still is a real gas to ride. The most similar feeling is the way both engines respond, the two cylinder engines both have great low range power and keep pulling right to the redline. I wouldn't trade my PC for anything (except a '97 ST1100 for under $5000), but the hard part to understand is that his old, chipped, dusty Beemer is worth more than my cherry '89 PC. Go figure. Jan deRoos '89 PC800 "Moby" 17,000mi. >>> 9312 04/09/97 10:04am >>> >Point is, I believe the PC (I've a 96) sounds & feels like my old BMWs. >What do u think of my impression? My PC runs like I thought my Beemer would, but didn't. Feels much better! Bob C. NM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:29:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800 Subject: PC800: New member This is a little premature, as i'm still negotiating for the purchase of a 1990 pc800...my first! Red, builtin am/fm radio...a real cream puff! Wish me luck. I hope I can close the deal this week. Frank Cook, Wayne, Pa., fcook@erols.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:45:32 -0400 Subject: PC800: Seat and trunk Good morning everyone! Well.....I went and picked up the bike yesterday morning at the dealer ('95 black, with 482 miles) . Yahoo! Yippee! Yeah! Wahoo! What more can I say! What a great day. I drove along the Atlantic Coast with my Pacific Coast. It was mild, yet quite windy. I still feel that I will need to buy a taller windscreen. If I crouch down about 3 inches, then all of the noise and buffeting go away. (Is 'buffeting' a word, or is it a verb, meaning 'to eat while standing in a line"?) Anyhow, I have two questions for this esteemed group. 1 - Has anyone tried out the Corbin seat that is heated? Apparently they have a version that is heated, similar to electric clothing. 2 - My PC has the trunk lights, which were installed by the dealer. Do these only work with the switch on each of them, or is there a mercury switch somewhere? This is like trying to find out if the light in the fridge goes out when you close the door! I haven't been able to find a mercury switch or pin switch anywhere in the wiring. Has anyone here 'improved' on this stock setup, by either adding a mercury switch or adding an in-line switch to the wiring? It seems ridiculous to have to bend down, and fumble around for the light switch. If I need the lights, then it stands to reason that it is dark out, and so finding the switch is difficult! Thanks in advance for all the great suggestions and comments I know I will get! bye for now.... fsl 95 PC800 540 miles, and more to come! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:42:57 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 08:42:57 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: 5'0" female on PC? Hi, All! Ever since the April 5 ride, my wife has been coveting my PC. Although at 5'0, she can't reach the ground when sitting on the seat. Sooooo.... I took off the front part of the seat and draped a couple of folded beach towels over the frame, and she rode it around the block. She didn't want to give it back. Well, I got to thinking... If I ripped all the filling out of my stock seat, and put a layer of thin foam and vinyl, maybe, just maybe... I'd get a new bike! But if it didn't work, I'd have a nasty seat rebuilding job to look forward to. So, if anyone has a reasonably priced stock seat (front only ok, or both), any color / condition, I'd like to buy it and give this idea a try. Other ideas: -Remove 4 plastic crash panels and antenna during training. -Weld about 1" of steel to the bottom of the sidestand so she can mount easier. -??? All comments invited. If this is a terrible idea, I'd rather know now. Thanks. John LaFreniere http://john.csun.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: Stan Brady Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Spectro Golden...Opinions? Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:51:03 -0700 I agree with Roger. My experience has been the same. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 13:26:58 -0700 From: Robert Steve Delorey To: Stan Brady CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Spectro Golden...Opinions? Stan Brady wrote: > > Thanks to all for the kind welcoming wishes. I look forward to > "chatting" with you in the future. > > In the meantime, one more oil question. Where does Spectro synthetic > (Golden 10W-40) fit into your opinion hierarchy? > I used Mobil 1 in my 81 Yamaha 750 for about a year. Then the clutch started to slip. I changed back to Yamalube and the clutch quit slipping. In my PC, the previous owner was using Honda HP4 which is a synthetic/petroleum blend with moly. - I continued to use it. It's expensive but with only two oil changes per year, I can live with the cost. I think the synthetics have better characteristics as far as viscosity is concerned. But if you have a wet clutch, viscosity is only one consideration. Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 13:38:18 -0700 From: Robert Steve Delorey To: frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil CC: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: New member frankc@nap62.nap-wc.usace.army.mil wrote: > > This is a little premature, as i'm still negotiating for the purchase of > a 1990 pc800...my first! Red, builtin am/fm radio...a real cream puff! > Wish me luck. I hope I can close the deal this week. > Frank Cook, Wayne, Pa., fcook@erols.comFrank, Welcome and good luck with tyour negotiations. I'm sure you'll enjoy the bike. Incidenttally, I found a Shoei RFR helmet in candy apple red that is a good match, (not perfect but almost). Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'saintlaurent@nationscredit.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Seat and trunk Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:33:57 -0700 Congrats on the new bike! A few opinions: Apparently they have a version that is heated, similar to electric clothing.>> I only recently heard about this option for the Corbin saddles. At first I was excited but on later thought realized it isn't needed. I've done a lots of extended cold weather riding (as low as the teens, lots in the 30's and 40's with rain) and never once have I had an issue with a cold butt. Nor has my passenger. In fact, our butt's were generally toasty warm. Granted, I wear polarfleece and sometimes electric chaps and vest but only the fleece covers the butt. IMHO, it's because the saddle fits me well and doesn't allow any wind to circulate down there. What does get cold is the hands, feet, and the outside edge of my thighs where they are exposed to more wind blast. dealer. Do these only work with the switch on each of them, or is there a mercury switch somewhere? This is like trying to find out if the light in the fridge goes out when you close the door! I haven't been able to find a mercury switch or pin switch anywhere in the wiring. Has anyone here 'improved' on this stock setup, by either adding a mercury switch or adding an in-line switch to the wiring? It seems ridiculous to have to bend down, and fumble around for the light switch. If I need the lights, then it stands to reason that it is dark out, and so finding the switch is difficult!>> I have the stock Hondaline light kit. It includes a plunger style switch (just like a car door) that is supposed to be mounted near the trunk latch towards the rear of the upper lid. Lift the trunk and check out the latch in the lid - maybe the plunger is stuck inside and won't extend to activate the lights. The kit even comes with a rubber bumper pad that attaches to the lower portion of the trunk so the plunger has something to press against and disable the circuit. If you spot that just look up and see what would normally contact it. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:16:31 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Seat and trunk > all of the noise and buffeting go away. (Is 'buffeting' a word, or is it a > verb, meaning 'to eat while standing in a line"?) "Buffeting" is a new word you've just invented, so it can mean whatever you want it to. The word you were looking for, I think, is "buffetting." --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Hondaline quartz clock - and Cheeaap Substitutes From: rider.stan@juno.com (Stan Brady) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 18:06:20 EDT On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:26:53 -0400 (EDT) TedJ101@aol.com writes: > >I have a little quartz digital that I stick onto the dash which I >bought at >an auto parts store for $3.49. It works perfectly and is almost a >perfect >color match too... > Ditto the cheapo quartz digital clock. I got one at a chain here in Southern New England called Christmas Tree Shops. It's 2" x 1 1/4", with numerals 3/4" high! Real easy for my aging eyes to see. It fastens with an adhesive backed velcro patch. I put it on the right-side speaker blank. Black on black. Blends in well and looks fine. Only $2.99!! Also, just saw a message re a Shoei helmet that comes close to the '90 Candy Red. I bought a HJC CL 10 (full face) that's just about a perfect match. For a LOT less $$ I'll bet, too. Stan B. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: buffeteria From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 19:07:15 EDT > all of the noise and buffeting go away. (Is 'buffeting' a word, or is it a > verb, meaning 'to eat while standing in a line"?) >>"Buffeting" is a new word you've just invented, so it can mean whatever you >>want it to. The word you were looking for, I think, is "buffetting." Actually, "Buffeting" is correct. The noun is "buffeter." "Buffered" as in, "that Corbin seat sure buffered my duff," is also correct. "Bufferin" however, is the name of an analgesic. Mike Larson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 00:29:48 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: PC800: multiple subjects, catch up time Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:14:27 -0600 Howdy, Miserable weather here in Colorado. I get jealous hearing about everyone else getting to ride. I also notice that some of you who put your miles in your salutation they keep going up. Boy I'm glad spring has sprung somewhere. We're still waiting on it here. (Snow expected again tonite. And it's not just the snow the city then comes out and throws a gravel sand mix on everything. And of course like all cities they pick it up promptly- whenever they get around to it. The gravel makes riding around here a thrill a minute. Anyway. Opinions Oil I use Spectro 20W-50 (regular oil) and I change it every thousand miles and the filter every two. I've done this on every bike I've ever owned. Is it excessive? Probably. But the clutch and shifting action is smooth as silk and I've gotten tons (OK 40,000+) on every bike and they've all been running great when I traded them in. I also hear that 20W-50 is too heavy. But I disagree, if its 30 degrees or less I'm probably not riding and if it's hot I probably am. I've noticed almost every bike tries to run hot (i.e. traffic jam) and heat kills an engine quicker than cold. Just my opinion. Bikes Does pretty much every motorcyclist want to get an new and/or different bike every year or so. Tires Any suggestions for a rear tire. Stickiness more important than wear. (But a battleax is probably excessive.) Names I notice most of the bikes on the list are named. Any suggestions? I can't seem to come up with anything good. Brian H. '89 PC 20,000 miles (STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!) Denver, Colorado -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout29.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA01550 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:47:00 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Seat and trunk In a message dated 97-04-09 11:37:07 EDT, you write: << 1 - Has anyone tried out the Corbin seat that is heated? Apparently they have a version that is heated, similar to electric clothing. >> I don't get this. Why a heated seat? That's the last part of my anatomy to get cold while riding. My hands, my neck, my feet, my knees -- yes to all. My butt? Only if I were to ride backwards with my tail in the air. Just my .02. ET -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA04751 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:50:20 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 5'0" female on PC? In a message dated 97-04-09 13:32:57 EDT, you write: << Well, I got to thinking... If I ripped all the filling out of my stock seat, and put a layer of thin foam and vinyl, maybe, just maybe... I'd get a new bike! But if it didn't work, I'd have a nasty seat rebuilding job to look forward to. So, if anyone has a reasonably priced stock seat (front only ok, or both), any color / condition, I'd like to buy it and give this idea a try. >> A friend of mine did a similar trick on an older BMW, but what he did differently was to make himself a new seat pan. His was simply a plywood base cut to shape and drilled as appropriate. I don't know if this method would work for you, but it sure would be a good idea to save that stock seat if you can. Otherwise, take the front seat portion to a good local auto upholstery shop and tell them what you want done. They'll match the stitching and have you looking good for a nominal cost. Hope this helps. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: GuntherSki@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Corbin Seat for PC 800 From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 20:05:50 EDT Think I might wait a bit.... On Wed, 09 Apr 1997 06:56:05 -0700 "Stephen A. Churchill" writes: >GuntherSki@aol.com wrote: >> >> Steve, >> >> How many $$$ for the seat these days? >> >> Z >$487.00 plus tax >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 751 miles and counting > AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 > Peace Be With You ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: erl From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 20:44:03 EDT We;ve been talking about oil. Did y'all know they put ground up tennis shoes in the mix and that is what makes an oil change consistency as temperature changes? Stop laughing. It's true. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 20:57:09 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Indianridr@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Seat and trunk Indianridr@aol.com wrote: > Why a heated seat? That's the last part of my anatomy to > get cold while riding. > My butt? Only if I were to ride backwards with my tail in the air. So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years... ;-) gk ____________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:15:45 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: erl Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:00:25 -0600 Rocky Rochambeau wrote >"We;ve been talking about oil. > > Did y'all know they put ground up tennis shoes in the mix and that is > what makes an oil change consistency as temperature changes? > > Stop laughing. It's true." No I can't stop laughing? What did they do before tennis shoes came about? Grind up white penny loafers? Although it would explain with the boom in tennis shoes (Air, pump, step, etc.) in the last few years why oil has advanced so quickly. Brian H. '89 PC (Still no name, although "snowbound for life" is starting to look accurate) Still 20,000 miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:40:04 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" , Subject: Re: PC800: erl Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:24:43 -0600 you wrote > My last name is Hopkins also. I live in Oklahoma and ride an '89 PC800 > w/54k. Are you the Hopkins in your name? > > Jeff Hopkins Yes I am. Pretty weird huh. Two Hopkins and both with '89's. I have relatives throughout Texas and that's close enough to Oklahoma in my book Brian H. '89 PC -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: Indianridr@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Seat and trunk Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 21:38:12 EDT I did know a man who rode backwards with his tail in the air. He did that due to low self-image because the poor chap was quite homely. He rode this way daily for several years along the Milwaukee Route railbed between Sioux City, Iowa and Sioux Falls, South Dakota. In January of 1949 he was forced to discontinue the practice because some complaints were received that this was too cheeky a thing to do. On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Indianridr@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-04-09 11:37:07 EDT, you write: > ><< 1 - Has anyone tried out the Corbin seat that is heated? Apparently >they > > have a version that is heated, similar to electric clothing. > >> > >I don't get this. Why a heated seat? That's the last part of my >anatomy to >get cold while riding. My hands, my neck, my feet, my knees -- yes to >all. > My butt? Only if I were to ride backwards with my tail in the air. > > >Just my .02. > >ET >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: timmacy@juno.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:38:49 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Rose City 250 From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Thanks for the nice trip write up, Tim, and also for the "reminders" that we all need now and again. They are the only "good" to come out of the accidents such as you described. I keep thinking of that helmet split open, and what would that guy's head have looked like without it?. Take care. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:16:55 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: John L CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 5'0" female on PC? John L wrote: > > Hi, All! > > Ever since the April 5 ride, my wife has been coveting my PC. Although at > 5'0, she can't reach the ground when sitting on the seat. > > Sooooo.... I took off the front part of the seat and draped a couple of > folded beach towels over the frame, and she rode it around the block. She > didn't want to give it back. > > Well, I got to thinking... If I ripped all the filling out of my stock seat, > and put a layer of thin foam and vinyl, maybe, just maybe... I'd get a new > bike! But if it didn't work, I'd have a nasty seat rebuilding job to look > forward to. > > So, if anyone has a reasonably priced stock seat (front only ok, or both), > any color / condition, I'd like to buy it and give this idea a try. > I just happen to have a stock seat available since I just put on a Corbin I doubt I will ever need it again. It's in perfect condition(one month old), though with what you have in mind that doesn't seem important. What sort of price were you thinking? P.S. if anybody else is inteested in a nearly new stock '96 seat let me know. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 826 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:31:34 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: rochambeau@juno.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Seat and trunk rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > > I did know a man who rode backwards with his tail in the air. > He did that due to low self-image because the poor chap was quite > homely. He rode this way daily for several years along the Milwaukee > Route railbed between Sioux City, Iowa and Sioux Falls, South Dakota. > > In January of 1949 he was forced to discontinue the practice because some > complaints were received that this was too cheeky a thing to do. Owwwwwwww. The pun, oh the pun. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 826 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:40:56 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Richard A Hardy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Rose City 250 Richard A Hardy wrote: > > Thanks for the nice trip write up, Tim,...etc. > Richard Hardy, San Diego > @juno.com Just saw your sig block. You hail from around here! Would you like to come out with the rest of the gang in the SCPCRC? (Southern California PC Riders Club) We'd love to see you. Check out the site, let us know, and we'll add you to the e-mailing list. http://www.concentric.net/~johanlai/pcrsc Any other SoCal lurkers out there? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 826 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:50:05 -0400 From: Richard Stafford To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: John L , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: 5'0" female on PC? Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > John L wrote: > > > > Hi, All! > > > > Ever since the April 5 ride, my wife has been coveting my PC. Although at > > 5'0, she can't reach the ground when sitting on the seat. > > > > Sooooo.... I took off the front part of the seat and draped a couple of > > folded beach towels over the frame, and she rode it around the block. She > > didn't want to give it back. > > > > Well, I got to thinking... If I ripped all the filling out of my stock seat, > > and put a layer of thin foam and vinyl, maybe, just maybe... I'd get a new > > bike! But if it didn't work, I'd have a nasty seat rebuilding job to look > > forward to. > > > > So, if anyone has a reasonably priced stock seat (front only ok, or both), > > any color / condition, I'd like to buy it and give this idea a try. > > > I just happen to have a stock seat available since I just put on a > Corbin I doubt I will ever need it again. It's in perfect condition(one > month old), though with what you have in mind that doesn't seem > important. What sort of price were you thinking? > > P.S. if anybody else is inteested in a nearly new stock '96 seat let me > know. > -- > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 826 miles and counting > AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 > Peace Be With You > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. John L. I will have a stock front seat off of a 90 PC that is ripped that I will give you if you will pay for shipping. I have bought another seat from Steve Gross and as soon as it gets here and I install it mine will be available. Dick Stafford -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:59:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Discussion on oil Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:52:02 -0400 I am refering to the only study that I know about regarding motorcycle specific oil that appeared in the Feb 1994 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News. The study compared Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Castrol GTX, Honda HP4, and Spectro 4. Mobol 1 came out on top with a Relative Viscosity Retention of 83%, Castrol Syntex was next with 74.5%, Castrol GTX at 68%, Honda HP4 at 65.6% and last was Spectro 4 at 63.9%. This study was done by Physics Professor John Woolum at California State University and appeared to be very scientific. Bottom line: " It would appear from this data, then, that there is no validy to the constantly-used argument that motorcycle-specific oils provide superior lubrication to automotive oils when used in a motorcycle." It appears that to use anything other than a quality oil such as Castrol GTX is a waste of money. $1.00 a quart vs $4-5. As far the change interval goes, I believe that the manufacturers would not give a high mileage number. In fact I would bet that their number is even conservative since they all want their vehicles to be know as being very reliable. I have been driving various cars and motorcycles for over forty years and have never had an oil related engine failure. Most of the used vehicles that I have bought have had their oil changed every three thousand miles but all the other maintenance items have been ignored. I believe that the oil change interval on the PC is 8,000 miles. Thanks, Vince Santamaria 6553 Winkler Rd Fort Myers FL 33919 (941) 433 5375 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA26559 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:47:51 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Buffeting buf0fet2 (bif2 t) n. 1. A blow or cuff with or as if with the hand. --buf0fet2 v. buf0fet0ed, buf0fet0ing, buf0fets. --tr. 1. To hit or beat, especially repeatedly. 2. To strike against forcefully; batter: winds that buffeted the tent. See Synonyms at beat. 3. To drive or force with or as if with repeated blows: was buffeted about from job to job by the vagaries of the economy. 4. To force (one's way) with difficulty. --intr. To force one's way with difficulty: a ship buffeting against the wind. [Middle English, from Old French buffet, diminutive of buffe, blow.] --buf2fet0er n. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: Indianridr@aol.com (Indianridr), pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:45:16 -0400 Subject: RE: PC800: Seat and trunk In a message on 9-apr-1997, Indianridr wrote... > I don't get this. Why a heated seat? That's the last part of my anatomy to >get cold while riding. My hands, my neck, my feet, my knees -- yes to all. > My butt? Only if I were to ride backwards with my tail in the air. >Just my .02. Hi folks. I have gotten alot of similar comments from other members of the list. Most people complain of having at one time or another gotten cold hands, feet, fingers, legs,etc. but never their backside....so why bother with a heated seat? Simple...your body is designed to keep you alive. To do so, it makes sure that your vital organs in the abdominal area, and your brain, are kept comfortable, even if this is at the expense of your extremeties. You never hear people saying "Man my hands are cooking, but my belly button is so cold I think it's going to fall off !". If you keep you vital organs warm on a cold day, then more heat becomes available to your hands, feet, legs, etc. I know from years of skiing in -40 Canadian winters that even the best Gore-Tex and Thinsulate gloves won't keep your hands warm if your not wearing a good jacket and a hat. Put on an extra sweater and your hands and feet start to get warmer. Take off you hat, and your head gets cold, and so do your hands and feet. I know...this sounds really bizarre...but it works. So, I figure that with a heated seat, heated grips, and an electric vest, you could pretty much ride in any weather for long durations. bye for now folks.... fsl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 09:02:29 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Belly button Francois, >"Man my hands are cooking, but my belly button is so cold I think >it's going to fall off !". I'm betting that this would be quite the problem if you have an outie as oppossed to an innie! %^O Erin in Mountain View, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:50:04 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: corbin01@corbin.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Corbin Pacific Coast Seat Dear Sirs: I have recently purchased a seat from you for my Honda Pacific Coast 800. It arrived in excellent condition several weeks before your predicted delivery date! Installation went fine even with my GIVI rack to complicate the matter. I do have one note in which you can improve your product. The front seat has insufficient clearance over the top frame tubes. The seat can be forced into place but it would be a much better fit if you had a relief in the seat pan accomodating the frame tubes just as the stock seat has. I plan to take the seat off again and grind the clearance channel into the seat pan to relieve the strain on the plastic side panels. Right now if I wanted to take off the side panel, something which is necessary on an occasional basis, I would have to remove the seat also. As you might note I have posted this letter and a previous message describing my installation to the PC 800 website which reaches PC owners worldwide. The reputation you acquired for poor/impossible fit on the newer models of PC 800's has now been mostly reversed. I believe with the above change you will again achieve your reputation for high quality and fit as well as comfort. Several people have already responded positively with intent to purchase. A few others were put off by the price but still like the idea. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 826 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:42:26 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: LED third brakelight installation I have recently done several modifications on my new '96 PC related to either safety or touring capability. This communique will describe the installation of an LED third brakelight. I purchased my LED light from JC Whitney (312) 431-6102, Item number 12YA4336P which is a 5 1/4", 16 LED light bar in a black plastic "sealed" housing (more on that later) that is attached to the vehicle with double sticky mounting tape. The catalogue also has three other LED light bars (stock #'s 12YA4335B [12 LED], 12YA3032W [20 LED], 83YA0680R [12 LED], or a whopping 14" long LED light bar 15YA7504X I picked the one I did because it fit in the place I had planned and I liked the design. You really need to look at the pictures to see what they look like because each one has a different look or mounting. I also purchased the logic circuit but it turns out I misinterpreted the catalogue comments and did not need it. I dissasembled the "sealed" housing because I was going to mount it upside down with the assembly seams up. The "seal" was vestigial and quite unacceptable. I put silicone sealant everywhere inside and on the assembly points and then reassembled it. I mounted mine on the underside of my GIVI rack with the mounting tape. Important! You NEED to clean the intended mounting area with alcohol or acetone to ensure a secure mounting. Otherwise over time it will fall off. The wire is fed along the rack frame and under the rear edge of the seat into the trunk. It's then ziptied the wire to the trunk opening cable laterally to the left trunk hinge area. With the trunk open you can easily see a white nylon gang quick connector for the rear lights. Pull back or cut back the black wire harness tubing below the connector and expose the wires. The brakelight wire is green/yellow and the ground is solid green. I soldered the cathode (+ , white stripe) wire to the green/yellow and the anode (- , black) wire to the green-ground. If I did it again I would use a plastic squeeze tap that I have that permits quick connect rather that solder. The solder however is more secure and I don't know if I'll ever have to disconnect it. After the soldering just protect the connections with electical tape and you're done! I've found the LED's are faster acting than the incandescent lights and they seem to come on just before the regular brakelights. According to people riding behind me they are VERY visible-which is the idea. Give it a try! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 826 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:44:33 -0600 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: bye for now... I need to quit the list for a while, and hope to be back later. I've got sleeping-bag space and am roughly halfways between Albuquerque and Santa Fe off highway "North 14". Y'all come by. Bob Clancy 505-845-7250 (work, 3 days/wk 505-281-4469 (home, which is work the other 4 days!) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:45:41 -0600 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: bye for now... Oops! email is: rmclanc@sandia.gov feel free to contact me directly. Bob -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:04:47 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Greetings all! Greetings all! This represents my re-subscription to the list after a 1 year abscense. My vitals are as follows: Name: Ramin Keyvan Location: Mountain View, CA Email: ramin@tibco.com (work), keyvan@lbe.org (home) PC Model year (if you have one): My fiance and list poster Erin Dolin has a '95. Bought Used/New: New. Modifications made to bike: None so far (does air in the tires count? ;-)) I used to post to this list and then I got bumped off because my company changed domain names and as you can imagine that caused all kinds of electronic heart burn, etc. My current steed is a 1995 Kawasaki Concours that I bought at the same time as Erin's purchase of her '95 pc-800. Currently I have nothing add or ask. I just wanted to say hi and it's good to be back on line again. Cheers all, Ramin -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:20:19 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Greetings all! At 12:04 PM 4/10/97 -0700, you wrote: Welcome back Ramin. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:49:34 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Battery Tenders Thanks to all of you for your battery charging advice. I indeed, did cook my last battery to the point of uselessness! I thought that my charger, since it had a maintenance free setting, was adjusting itself downward, once the battery was charged. With all of your kind help, I've discovered that this was not the case. Soooooooooooooooooooo... I've purchased another brand new fresh battery (another $60 lesson) and an official Battery Tender for about $49.00. The Battery Tender does indeed adjust to the fully charged battery and is advertised, in the directions, to be able to be connected anytime for any duration. I should have had one of these a long time ago. So, thanks again!! Phil Lewis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: BernieK469@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Buffeting Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:52:14 EDT Another definition: to become the richest self-directed investor in the world. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:18:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:03:37 -0600 From: Gerri Ewing To: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! I did not know if this was proper for this forum. But, I figured better safe than sorry.... Gerri .............................................................. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: FW: Virus alert Date: Thursday, April 10, 1997 2:25PM VIRUS ALERT!!!! DON'T OPEN E-MAIL NOTING "AOL4FREE" Be aware that there are letters going around that you have won free AOL until 1998 . . . or AOL 4 Free . . . PLEASE DELETE . . . contain a virus that will wipe out your harddrive . . . after you download and it executes . . . SUBJECT AREA OF EMAIL . . . CONGRATULATIONS! You are a WINNER! SUBJECT AREA OF EMAIL . . . AOL 4 Free - Get AOL For Free VERY IMPORTANT VIRUS WARNING!!!!! DO NOT OPEN ANY MAIL . . AOL4FREE . . . READ THE WARNING!!! THIS IS A SERIOUS WARNING!! Anyone who receives this warning should send it to as many people as you can. It is essential that this problem be reconciled AS Soon As Possible. A few hours ago, a gentleman from AT&T Solutions opened an E-mail that had the subject heading of "AOL4FREE.COM". Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and began to display his files that were being deleted. He immediately shut down his computer, but it was too late. This virus wiped him out. It ate the Anti-Virus Software that comes with the Windows '95 Program along with F-Prot AVS. Neither was able to detect it. Please be careful and send this message to as many people as possible, so maybe this new virus can be eliminated. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout30.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA22518 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:47:42 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New key I just had a new key made for my PC. It cost $10.83. That seemed quite high to me. Any thoughts from the group? Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 19:53:32 -0700 From: ericeric To: GEwing@worldnet.att.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! Yet another hoax... According to the CAIC: AOL4FREE.COM was a program originally written to provide illegal free access to America Online. The CSI Computer Security Alert reported the following in the March 1997 issue: "A former Yale computer science student has pleaded guilty to defrauding America Online. AOL estimates it lost between $40,000 and $70,000 in service charges because the student distributed his computer program, AOL4FREE, to hundreds of other users." Recently, CIAC has been receiving the following warning about an AOL4FREE virus: ************************************************************************************ VIRUS ALERT!!! DON'T OPEN E-MAIL NOTING "AOL4FREE" Anyone who receives this must sent it to as many people as you can. It is essential that this problem be reconciled as soon as possible. A few hours ago, I opened an E-mail that had the subject heading of "AOL4FREE.COM". Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and began to display my files that were being deleted. I immediately shut down my computer, but it was too late. This virus wiped me out. It ate the Anti-Virus Software that comes with the Windows '95 Program along with F-Prot AVS. Neither was able to detect it. Please be careful and send this to as many people as possible, so maybe this new virus can be eliminated. ************************************************************************************ We have not seen a copy of AOL4FREE.COM that exhibits this behavior, nor have we been able to locate anyone who has. Therefore, we believe this is a hoax. If anyone can send us a copy, we would be glad to do an evaluation of it. Note that while we believe this message is a hoax, it is possible to create a Trojan program that does all the things described in the warning except activation by READING an E-mail message. The Trojan would have to be mailed and executed as an attachment. CIAC still affirms that reading E-mail, using typical mail agents, can not activate malicious code delivered in or with the message. It is ALWAYS recommended that attachments be scanned with virus software prior to running them on your computer. Note that most antivirus software does not detect Trojans, so it is important to know where your software came from before executing it -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 19:53:46 -0700 From: ericeric To: GEwing@worldnet.att.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! Yet another hoax... According to the CIAC: AOL4FREE.COM was a program originally written to provide illegal free access to America Online. The CSI Computer Security Alert reported the following in the March 1997 issue: "A former Yale computer science student has pleaded guilty to defrauding America Online. AOL estimates it lost between $40,000 and $70,000 in service charges because the student distributed his computer program, AOL4FREE, to hundreds of other users." Recently, CIAC has been receiving the following warning about an AOL4FREE virus: ************************************************************************************ VIRUS ALERT!!! DON'T OPEN E-MAIL NOTING "AOL4FREE" Anyone who receives this must sent it to as many people as you can. It is essential that this problem be reconciled as soon as possible. A few hours ago, I opened an E-mail that had the subject heading of "AOL4FREE.COM". Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and began to display my files that were being deleted. I immediately shut down my computer, but it was too late. This virus wiped me out. It ate the Anti-Virus Software that comes with the Windows '95 Program along with F-Prot AVS. Neither was able to detect it. Please be careful and send this to as many people as possible, so maybe this new virus can be eliminated. ************************************************************************************ We have not seen a copy of AOL4FREE.COM that exhibits this behavior, nor have we been able to locate anyone who has. Therefore, we believe this is a hoax. If anyone can send us a copy, we would be glad to do an evaluation of it. Note that while we believe this message is a hoax, it is possible to create a Trojan program that does all the things described in the warning except activation by READING an E-mail message. The Trojan would have to be mailed and executed as an attachment. CIAC still affirms that reading E-mail, using typical mail agents, can not activate malicious code delivered in or with the message. It is ALWAYS recommended that attachments be scanned with virus software prior to running them on your computer. Note that most antivirus software does not detect Trojans, so it is important to know where your software came from before executing it -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 05:51:17 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:51:24 +0000 From: BJ Strass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Looking for PC Hello, I am looking for a used PC to replace my Beemer. Prefer in California. Will be able to purchase in 2-3 weeks. Also opinions as to the performance of the bike and comfort for a tall/large rider. Thanks. BJ Strass Sacramento, CA 916/331-9317 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Gerri Ewing cc: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! Gerri, I won't flame you for putting this on the list...I will attempt to educate you instead. You can't get a virus merely by opening up e-mail!!! A virus must be in an executable form, imbedded in a program or some other type of file which is part of a program. The "virus" you refer to is a hoax and has been around for some time. Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Gerri Ewing wrote: > I did not know if this was proper for this forum. But, I figured better > safe than sorry.... > > Gerri > .............................................................. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:00:18 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: JeffHamltn@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key JeffHamltn@aol.com wrote: > > I just had a new key made for my PC. It cost $10.83. That seemed > quite high to me. Any thoughts from the group? What happened to the old ones? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 821 miles and counting AMA #540514 HSTA #7249 Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael W. Hind" To: Subject: PC800: Couple of Questions Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:01:43 -0600 Hi Everyone. I'm new to the list but not the PC. I've owned my white 89 new since 90 and loved every minite spent on it. (I live in Alberta Canada where the summers are short so you have to enjoy every minute !!) Two Questions....... - what would you suggest for the best cruise control setup for the bike ? - does anyone have any ideas or examples on graphics or pinstripping ? Look forward to your replies. _____/\/\ike_____ Calgary, Alberta, Canada hindm@cadvision.com (waiting for the snow to melt) !! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:35:28, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Tire Wear My 96PC came with Dunlop K555's (Maybe they all do.) 1. What mileage should I expect to get out of them? Is 8000 miles for the rear about right? 2. do you recommend changing the front tire at the same time, even if there's still tread left? 3. Any consensus on the best replacement tires? (I've heard Metzler's are good.) ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:00:33 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Looking for PC At 09:51 AM 4/10/97 +0000, you wrote: >Hello, I am looking for a used PC to replace my Beemer. Prefer in >California. Will be able to purchase in 2-3 weeks. Also opinions as to >the performance of the bike and comfort for a tall/large rider. BJ Strass, Check out the classified section on http://www.motorcycle.com/motorcycle.html. They had a couple of PC's last time I checked. Unless you have very long legs, fit on a PC shouldn't be a problem. Good luck! Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:08:37 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800: Couple of Questions At 08:01 AM 4/11/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Everyone. >I'm new to the list but not the PC. I've owned my white 89 new since 90 >and loved every minite spent on it. (I live in Alberta Canada where the >summers are short so you have to enjoy every minute !!) Welcome. I live in Alaska, and sure know what you mean. >Two Questions....... >- what would you suggest for the best cruise control setup for the bike ? Depends on what you mean by best. If looks are very important to you, try the Throttlemeister system. It emulates the bar-end weight. It is expensive thought (~$100.00). If low price and ease of mounting are more important, you can't go wrong with the Vista Cruise, thumb operated throttle control (~$25.00) >- does anyone have any ideas or examples on graphics or pinstripping ? Can't help you there, sorry. I have seen some nice examples around tho. I think there is a picture of a PC with pinstriping in the PC homepage. You might find some in the Netherlands PC homepage as well. Good luck! Juan >Look forward to your replies. > > _____/\/\ike_____ >Calgary, Alberta, Canada > hindm@cadvision.com >(waiting for the snow to melt) !! >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:26:04 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear At 10:35 AM 4/11/97 -0500, you wrote: >My 96PC came with Dunlop K555's (Maybe they all do.) >1. What mileage should I expect to get out of them? Is 8000 miles >for the rear about right? Depends on you riding style, how well you keep track of the tire pressures and how abrassive the pavement in your area is, but 8,000 sonds about right for a "shipping rim-protector" like the K-555. >2. do you recommend changing the front tire at the same time, even if >there's still tread left? Yes, I would (although no entirely neccessary, you'll appreciate the handling of your bike a lot more if you do) especially if you mount a different model/brand tire. Currently there are three choices for the PC (in the right sizes): Dunlop K-555 available as a dealer part, don't bother. Dunlop K-177 much better choice, especially as of late, with a change to stickier compound. Metzler ML2 Some argue that this is the best choice, but is still a matter of opinion. Most expensive tire of the three, had a serious back-order problem (anyone know if this has been solved?) YMMV, of course. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:27:25 -0800 (AKDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: PC800: New key At 10:47 PM 4/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >I just had a new key made for my PC. It cost $10.83. That seemed >quite high to me. Any thoughts from the group? If you got it at a locksmith, yes, quite expensive. If you got it at a Honda dealer, just SOP. Juan "We few, we happy few, we band of PC Riders" -- With apologies to William Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Andre Espaillat" Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 12:52:24 PDT Juan Goula wrote > Metzler ML2 Some argue that this is the best choice, but is still a matter > of opinion. Most expensive tire of the three, had a serious > back-order problem (anyone know if this has been solved?) =====>ML2's are available in stock from my supplier. I've verified this at 1:30 p local time on 4/11/97 The front tire is available for $165. The rear is $200. Prices include shipping in the continental US. ******************************************************** Andre Espaillat Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103 Carrollton, TX 75006 (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace outrace@flash.net ******************************************************** Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:21:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: New key Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:10:39 -0600 > JeffHamltn@aol.com wrote > > I just had a new key made for my PC. It cost $10.83. That seemed > quite high to me. Any thoughts from the group? > Heck that's nothing. I lost my only (oops) key to my PC at a job and the locksmith had to come out and make one. It only cost me $85. Expensive lesson. Now I have 2. Brian H. '89 PC "Snow White" Still 20,000 mi -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA25746 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:08:15 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! Hey guys -- Your hard drive (or any other part of your computer for that matter) can not be "infected" with a virus via E-Mail. This kind of hoax has been going on for several years now. Again, you can't get a virus via e-mail. ET -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA00730 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:20:04 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear In a message dated 97-04-11 14:40:44 EDT, you write: << ML2's are available in stock from my supplier. I've verified this at 1:30 p local time on 4/11/97 The front tire is available for $165. The rear is $200. Prices include shipping in the continental US. >> OUCH!!! I could probably make my own for that much money. (anyone know where I can buy a rubber tree plant?) ET -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: NVXL62A@prodigy.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:08:00 EDT Some guy wrote in that Metzelers stop the squirming on waffle grills on drawbridges and grooved cement. Get them and post your results!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: outrace@flash.net Cc: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear with last message <199704111726.JAA04415@jarvis.ims.alaska.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:08:00 EDT If you don't mind a suggestion, if you want to look up your target tire brand on the internet via a search engine, remember that the letter "e" appears three times in the word "M e t z e l e r." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: bigair@bigfoot.com Cc: Pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:08:00 EDT Talk abt 2 keys. I am gonna get ano key & hide it in a magnet box behind one of those pop off panels somewhere. I am afraid I will lose a key or worse fear, lock it in the trunk. What better way to ruin a trip? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: hindm@cadvision.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Couple of Questions Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:08:00 EDT Try this before you emty your purse for a cruise control. Remove one of the 2 throttle return springs. THE FOLLOWING CORRECTS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. Then on the right side of your rubber twist grip, apply rubber bands between the rubber grip and the metal thingy on the end of the handlebar. Keep twisting the rubber bands until they are snugged down in there. It will be like an old Cushman or Harley or Indian, the throttle will just stay where you put it. No need to set or release any catches or levers which you might forget in a panic. Next make a sign to put on your windshield when she goes in for service that sez; WARNING, THERE IS NO THROTTLE RETURN SPRING ON THIS BIKE!!! Then verbally tell it to the person who's going to work on it. What ever you do good luck and have fun. Vive la Canada! On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:01:43 -0600 "Michael W. Hind" writes: >Hi Everyone. >I'm new to the list but not the PC. I've owned my white 89 new since >90 >and loved every minite spent on it. (I live in Alberta Canada where >the >summers are short so you have to enjoy every minute !!) >Two Questions....... >- what would you suggest for the best cruise control setup for the >bike ? >- does anyone have any ideas or examples on graphics or pinstripping ? >Look forward to your replies. > > _____/\/\ike_____ >Calgary, Alberta, Canada > hindm@cadvision.com >(waiting for the snow to melt) !! >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AWong18031@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA23409 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:26:46 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 in AZ Hi everyone. I'm looking for a PC owner who lives in or near Phoenix, AZ who might help me out by checking out a PC I'm interested in, in Mesa, AZ. If there's someone out there, your help would be much appreciated. The bike I'm considering is an 89 with tall shield, custom pinstriping, CB in trunk, 22,000 miles, and new Metzlers. Owner wants $4500, which sounds a little high to me. I live in CA, so a trip out to see it is a little difficult. Thanks again, Archie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: rochambeau@juno.com To: JeffHamltn@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:07:59 EDT Who did this, a locksmith or a bike shop? In what town? On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 22:47:42 -0400 (EDT) JeffHamltn@aol.com writes: >I just had a new key made for my PC. It cost $10.83. That seemed >quite high to me. Any thoughts from the group? > >Jeff >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA06645 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 23:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 23:52:56 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear In a message dated 97-04-11 22:09:34 EDT, you write: << Some guy wrote in that Metzelers stop the squirming on waffle grills on drawbridges and grooved cement. Get them and post your results!!! >> At $200 for a rear and $165 for a front, I'll stick with my Dunlops and squirm my way across the bridges. BTW, the Dunlops aren't bad at all on grooves or bridge grates. And they're a lot quieter than the ML2s also. BTW, Rocky -- (off the PC subject) -- I've got the engine back in my Indian Chief and the new wiring harness just about hooked up. Won't be long before my '50 is back on the warpath! ET -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Sat, 12 Apr 1997 00:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 00:01:41 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key In a message dated 97-04-11 22:36:10 EDT, you write: << Talk abt 2 keys. I am gonna get ano key & hide it in a magnet box behind one of those pop off panels somewhere. I am afraid I will lose a key or worse fear, lock it in the trunk. What better way to ruin a trip? >> The previous owner of my PC put a spare key behind the left front safety bar cover. It's a panel that can (theoretically) be easily removed and replaced (I've never had the cover off). Just thought I'd pass that along. ET -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 11:10:23 +0200 (MET DST) To: rogersk@eden.com From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Have you ever seen a PC naked? Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 10:52 04-04-97 -0600, you wrote: >Please take some pictures! And post them on the web. Ok? Thanks! YES, take a look on our PCN pictures page. http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ Gerard Diepeveen 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:48:58 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:18:40 -0400 Metzlers seem to reduce the squirm but not stop it completely. We have draw bridges in Florida that use the metal grate. Always a little scary. ---------- > From: rochambeau@juno.com > To: NVXL62A@prodigy.com > Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear > Date: Friday, April 11, 1997 10:08 PM > > Some guy wrote in that Metzelers stop the squirming on waffle grills on > drawbridges and grooved cement. Get them and post your results!!! > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:49:04 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:20:17 -0400 I,ve been fooling with computers for 30 years and I never say never. ---------- > From: Indianridr@aol.com > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! > Date: Friday, April 11, 1997 5:08 PM > > > Hey guys -- > > Your hard drive (or any other part of your computer for that matter) can not > be > "infected" with a virus via E-Mail. This kind of hoax has been going on for > several years now. > > Again, you can't get a virus via e-mail. > > ET > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA14910 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:01:48 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key I tried hiding a key in the grey popoff panel under a piece of duct tape. This was the advice of another PC rider. Sounded good to me. I lost two keys that way. They both worked loose from under the duct tape. Good luck with the magnet box. Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:25:41, -0500 To: JeffHamltn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:Magnetic key Box My magnetic Key Box has been secure for the 6 months I've owned my PC. It's on a vertical frame support behind the right hand vent. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Gross" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800:Magnetic key Box Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:05:15 -0700 Mine's in a magnetic box under the right side exhaust cover, tucked between the "doghouse" and some cabling. Very stable there, ---------- > From: GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG > To: JeffHamltn@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: Re: PC800:Magnetic key Box > Date: Sunday, April 13, 1997 8:25 AM > > My magnetic Key Box has been secure for the 6 months I've owned my PC. > > It's on a vertical frame support behind the right hand vent. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:48:48 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:Magnetic key Box GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG wrote: > > My magnetic Key Box has been secure for the 6 months I've owned my PC. > > It's on a vertical frame support behind the right hand vent. > > ____ > Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com > '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia Hey Gordon! Now that I know where you keep your key, maybe I could..................NAH!! Actually, I live in Southern Cal., but I just happen to be at the Delta Air Lines training facility, going through my annual training and check-ride. I really miss my PC, and I think I'll treat myself to a well deserved ride when I get home. It will be nice to ride something as much fun as the PC, and I won't keep having engines that catch fire, landings in PEA SOUP fog, and controls that keep breaking. It's all simulated, of course, but it sure feels real when I'm in the box. Y'all take care, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:30:48 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: tires... To: "Fellow PC800's" Someone recently wrote about dunlops.... Haveing just won a tireof my choice from a dealer and courtesy of the first HSTA Ohio ride... I of course ordered what I could get the quickest. since the dunlop 177 have gotten me to ALSAKA and back without a whimper... I opt'd to get another set, and the fact that my back tire was balder than bald...their price was 97$ for the front and 110$ for the rear.... I was totally amazed that I won a great door prize, especially since I really needed one! Anyways look for ride report somewhere. However the $10.00 oil filter is another story.....why does a 4$ filter have to cost us 10??? On another note I just checked out the PC Netherlands Site!!! WAY COOOLLO!! Y'all need to check out there site, they got some great pics of pc's, with trailers, or 89 of em in a row, or naked, or well you go look for yourself!!! //www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ It snowed today in cincinnati, ohio....but yet were thinking bikes!!! fireman joe and on the lighter side........ Really Stupid People >========================= > >- Police in Wichita, Kansas, arrested a 22-year-old man at an >airport hotel after he tried to pass two (counterfeit) $16 bills. > >- A man in Johannesberg, South Africa, shot his 49-year-old friend >in the face, seriously wounding him, while the two practiced >shooting beer cans off each other's head. and you thought you were having a bad day............. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:30:51 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Momma's Ride!!! To: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" Hey gang just recovering from a great time, with some great people!!! The annual MOMMA's ride was a great time, even if the weather started out the day with a rain, some places reported a downpour, but nonetheless the spirit of your fellow HSTA'rs an friends came shinning thruough! About 9 am a dozen or so folks got warmed up with some McD's coffee at Kings Island, while our friends from the Indiana Squadron trudgeed their way to the Honda dealer outside Middletown ohio who played host to a gang of 2 wheeler's, around 11 am, we all caught up there and met our long distance award rider from Chicago!!! Way to go, (his name escapes me...sorry), we got to snoop around the showroom look at a couple of new Valkyres sitting there, buy some much needed parts, ask their staff for technical stuffs, and enjoy some tall tales!!! We had some great door prizes!!! some t-shirts, riders always need another t-shirt or 2, and some gift certificates, espically since this 'fearful' rider was real glad to have won a voucher for a tire of his choice, and since my tire was bald enuff that it (90pc) stayed home and the cage was used. Moose sounded like he was in need of a tire more than me....sorry Moose I know you wanted it, but I needed it...grin. Then about 1:00 we all headed out in clearing skies, to MOMMA's in Leesburg, Ohio. We met up with some more folks from all over, looks like about 4 dozen folks/bikes showed up, the food at MOMMA's is always warm and fresh, and so is the staff!!! Deb even had made up some of her award winning MOOOSE PIE!!!! Some of our folks brought there new bikes out like Joannie from KY rode her new ST1100, after trading in 2 pc800's and still has a HD Road King for sale.. Some brought a copule of there prized older bikes, I saw license plates from North Carolina when I got there, was that any of our HSTA's, and of course one plate said the bike was from ALASKA, but we know that our good friend from there only rode from Dayton.... Our devoted Brickner man and Moose were ther keeping the crowd laughing, and we got to meet one of these elctronic guru's that are behind the scences we see here on the web, Bryan Dunlap brought along a neat little toy gadget, that captured pics digitally, that he is going to be able to post on the web, I reckon that'll be the ohio web-site http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/oh-hsta/....... The sunn came back out for awhile and After the group pic a bunch off folks had some more shopping to do so another bunch headed up to Competition accy, up in Springfield.. So all in all it was another funtime in the ohio valley.. Fireman Joe Cincinnati, Ohio Really Stupid People >========================= - The Chico, California, City Council enacted a ban on nuclear >weapons, setting a $500 fine for anyone detonating one within city >limits. > >- A bus carrying five passengers was hit by a car in St. Louis, >but by the time police arrived on the scene, fourteen pedestrians had >boarded the bus and had begun to complain of whiplash injuries and >back pain. > =================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:30:45 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: Re: PC800: New key To: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" , "Fellow PC800's" you wrote: ==Heck that's nothing. I lost my only (oops) key to my PC at a job and the ==locksmith had to come out and make one. It only cost me $85. Expensive ==lesson. Now I have 2. ONLY 2???? I Made 4 put one in my wallet one on the car keys and one on the othert bikes ring.... that darn trunk could be tricky to open with out tem....heheh jb -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:30:54 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Bike Transport To: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" A buddy of mine has a small business that I want to pass on after reading some posts a while ago about people needing to get a bike fom there to here.... Doug Wothke of Door To Door Motorcyl Transport 1-800-826-1356 http//www.geocities.com/motorcity/1696 he's gott a couple links to some junkyards theat might intrest ya... Fireman Joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: Minn/Wisc Riders From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:37:30 EDT Locke Perkins is organizing a PC800 get together in The Twin Cities for riders in Minnesota and Western Wisconsin. If you would like information, contact him at: e-mail: 105324.2343@compuserve.com or telephone: 612-464-2544 and leave your name and 'phone number. Mike Larson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:44:04 -0700 I normally don't send this out to the whole list, but these pictures are really worth looking at. Last weekend, the group of guys I ride with got together and we met in front of these fields. Later, I posted a picture that I took out in the parking lot of these fields and it just didn't do the flowers justice. Anyway, my wife wanted to see the fields because I just kept telling her how beautiful they were. So, today I took her over there and I made a whole page of pictures from them that I just wanted to share with all of you because they came out so nice. You can see them at http://204.212.147.240/carlsbad_flowers_4_13_97.htm Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:37:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave DeLang To: Indianridr@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 Indianridr@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-04-11 22:36:10 EDT, you write: > > << Talk abt 2 keys. I am gonna get ano key & hide it in a magnet box behind > one of those pop off panels somewhere. I am afraid I will lose a key or > worse fear, lock it in the trunk. What better way to ruin a trip? >> > > The previous owner of my PC put a spare key behind the left front safety bar > cover. It's a panel that can (theoretically) be easily removed and replaced > (I've never had the cover off). Just thought I'd pass that along. > A better choice might be one of the rear crash bar covers, you won't need the allen wrench that is now locked in the trunk to get at it. The rear ones (just) yank off. BTW, I'm new hear, just signed on last week, I have a '90 that I bought used two years ago with only 2700 miles on it.(now it's got 16,000)((not bad for northern Vermont... It's my second PC, I had a '94 that I bought new, but it wouldn't fit under that car that pulled out in front of me... Dave DeLang -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:07:48 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: VIRUS ALERT!!!! ** Reply to note from Indianridr@aol.com Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:08:15 -0400 (EDT) > Your hard drive (or any other part of your computer for that matter) can > not be "infected" with a virus via E-Mail. This kind of hoax has been going > on for several years now. > > Again, you can't get a virus via e-mail. This statement is not true in the way it was stated. What is generally true is that you can't *activate* a virus by *reading* your e-mail. However, a virus can *definitely* be e-mailed to you in an attachment, which you will then have to acivate by running in some fashion. Furthermore, the risk of activating a virus simply by reading your e-mail is becoming greater daily, as more and more people access e-mail through their web browser. In this mode, malicious code in a Java, or more likely, Activex applet could do serious harm to your system without your realizing it. The Java people claim to have security controls built into the code to prevent malicious use, but Activex is apparently much less secure. I personally do not use a browser for incoming mail, and scan attachments from unknown senders with IBM Anti-Virus before opening them. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:08:38 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: New key > I tried hiding a key in the grey popoff panel under a piece of duct tape. > This was the advice of another PC rider. Sounded good to me. I lost two > keys that way. They both worked loose from under the duct tape. Good luck > with the magnet box. Visit any locksmith shop and you'll find a mini-wallet style hidden keyholder that can be attached with velcro to any surface. It's smaller and flatter than the magnetic types, and can be attached inside the bodywork near any of the PC's hand-removable pieces. In addition to a spare key, I keep a $20 or $50 bill, just I case I get into trouble. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:32:30 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: Thank you To: Vic Norton , "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr , Bryan Dunlap Hey guys I checked out this neat site, and signed the guest book and got this back... how about you webmaster types can we add a link to their site... You think we have some PC800's in our mist, they got a pic of almost 100 of em in a parking lot.... Joe -------------Forwarded Message----------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) To: Fireman_Joe@compuserve.com From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Thank you Hi Joe, thank you for signing our guestbook. Thanks for your review on our page. I did check out the HSTA page looks great, I will place a link to it on our page. Is there a possibility to put a link to us as well? thanks in advance Gerard Diepeveen 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:20:53 -0700 "Re: PC800: Tire Wear" (Apr 12, 9:18am) To: "Vincent Santamaria" Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear Cc: Vincent: You should be awarded a medal of valor just for riding at all in Florida! After having lived in various parts of the Sunshine State for 13+ years, I finally bailed and moved here to the San Francisco Bay Area to do my riding. The thought of being squished by Ma and Pa Kettle driving their 1976 Delta 88 scared the hell out of me. At least here in CA most people can see past the dashboard! :-) Anyway, just my ramblings ;-). Ride safely. Ramin (have a problem with legally blind people driving) Keyvan On Apr 12, 9:18am, Vincent Santamaria wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear > Metzlers seem to reduce the squirm but not stop it completely. We have draw > bridges in Florida that use the metal grate. Always a little scary. > -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:23:07 -0800 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Problem with Neutral Light Date: 14 Apr 97 09:07:11 KDT Last summer I started to have this problem with my PC...thought I had it fixed but it's starting to do it again. It seems when the bike is parked overnight or longer and when I turn on the key to start it the neutral light is not on. I then have to get on the bike, kick up the side stand, blip the starter a few times until the neutral light comes on, then I can put the sidestand down and start the bike. At times the bike will cut out because the neutral light goes off and then I have to repeat the procedure. The clutch plates were replaced and it seemed the problem went away, until this year when the symptoms started again. Any ideas what may be the cause...I'm going to call the shop to make an appt. for it. Thanks for the help. Jo Ruby Juneau, AK 94 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:23:04 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Greetings all: I would be most grateful if someone on the list would be so kind as to describe to me how to remove the battery from the pc-800. Preferably, this would be done without the breakage of plastic body parts ;-). I need to take the battery out of Erin's PC and recharge it and would really prefer not to damage the bike in the process. Thanks much in advance, Ramin (don't want to break the S.O.'s bike) Keyvan ;-) -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'AWong18031@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC800 in AZ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:52:18 -0700 Hello, I will be in Phoenix the night of Friday April 25th and would be happy to check out a PC800 purchase for you. I'm flying in to pick up a '96 ST1100 that evening and will be riding home from there the next morning. Seeing another bike on Friday evening shouldn't be too much of a problem. In fact, I think Meza is close to the airport where I'll be staying. $4500 does sound high so the bike is going to have to be stunning to get that kinda money. But then again, if the CB and paint, and other accessories is good then that may be enough to demand that kind of price. I think Motorcycle Consumer news last listed the average price for an '89 at $3600 or so (before the expensive accessories. Let me know what you want to do. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AWong18031@aol.com [SMTP:AWong18031@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 1997 7:27 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC800 in AZ Hi everyone. I'm looking for a PC owner who lives in or near Phoenix, AZ who might help me out by checking out a PC I'm interested in, in Mesa, AZ. If there's someone out there, your help would be much appreciated. The bike I'm considering is an 89 with tall shield, custom pinstriping, CB in trunk, 22,000 miles, and new Metzlers. Owner wants $4500, which sounds a little high to me. I live in CA, so a trip out to see it is a little difficult. Thanks again, Archie -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Michael W. Hind" To: "Ramin Keyvan" , Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:02:27 -0600 Hi Ramin, I've been successful in recharging my battery on my 89 without removing it. If your battery charger clamps are small enough you can hook up directly to the battery with the trunk open. Just be careful not to short out on the frame. I still have the original battery that has never been removed since I bought the bike. (even with our minus 40 degree celcius weather in Alberta). Good luck. _____/\/\ike_____ Calgary, Alberta, Canada hindm@cadvision.com ---------- > From: Ramin Keyvan > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: PC800: Battery removal procedure... > Date: Monday, April 14, 1997 12:23 PM > > Greetings all: > > I would be most grateful if someone on the list would be so kind as to describe > to me how to remove the battery from the pc-800. Preferably, this would be done > without the breakage of plastic body parts ;-). I need to take the battery out > of Erin's PC and recharge it and would really prefer not to damage the bike in > the process. > > Thanks much in advance, > > Ramin (don't want to break the S.O.'s bike) Keyvan ;-) > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | > |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | > |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | > |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | > |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:06:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Barre Bull To: Joe Beresford cc: Vic Norton , "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr , Bryan Dunlap Subject: Re: PC800: Thank you ummmm...Joe, Gerard is a member of this list. ;) Barre' Barre' Bull Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:20 -0600 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Problem with neutral light. >> At times the >> bike will cut out because the neutral light goes off Sounds like the neutral-sensing switch. I don't know about the PC, but the ones I've seen on other bikes are just little plugs that screw into the cases, with a plunger-like switch inside. The plunger rides on a transmission shaft and at the neutral position, the shaft has a little detent that moves the plunger, makes the light go on, and (it appears) does other electrical safety stuff that lets your bike run. Shouldn't be too hard to replace (when you can find it) or at least check the wire connections for cleanliness, tightness, etc. The ones I've seen are a straightforward out-with-the-old, and in-with-the-new. Perhaps someone with a manual can give more clues?? Bob C. NM -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'NVXL62A@prodigy.com'" , "Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PC800:Magnetic key Box Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:44:51 -0700 I keep a spare key taped to the backside of the right black plastic access panels that cover the oil dipstick. I've also written my name and address there so if the bike is ever stolen goes in for service they'll know who the real owner is. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:43:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Eric York To: rochambeau@juno.com cc: bigair@bigfoot.com, Pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 rochambeau@juno.com wrote: > Talk abt 2 keys. I am gonna get ano key & hide it in a magnet box behind > one of those pop off panels somewhere. I am afraid I will lose a key or > worse fear, lock it in the trunk. What better way to ruin a trip? I learned (by experience) to take an extra key, hung about my neck on a piece of yarn, _any_ time I go on a trip by cage or bike. I never felt comfortable having an extra on the vehicle, but the one on my neck has saved my absent minded self many times. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Fireman_Joe@compuserve.com Cc: bigair@bigfoot.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:00:46 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: New key From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) writes: that darn trunk could be tricky to open with out tem....heheh Yeh Joe, unless you happen to have a screwdriver or a thin, flat piece of almost anything. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:49:17 CDT id RLG08445; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:38:12 -0400 (EDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:37:03 -0700 From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers To: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Rusty, your pictures of the Carlsbad flower fields are magnificent!! And it isn't just the subject, it's your photographic and computer skills. I can't even learn to use my new scanner properly, let alone do what you've done. Thanks for putting them up. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:10:34 -0700 "Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers" (Apr 14, 2:37pm) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers Rusty: Major kudos on the flower pics!! They are beautiful! Well done old bean :-)! Thanks for sharing them with us. Ramin (I grow Orchids and ride bikes) Keyvan On Apr 14, 2:37pm, Richard A Hardy wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers > Rusty, your pictures of the Carlsbad flower fields are magnificent!! And > it isn't just the subject, it's your photographic and computer skills. I > can't even learn to use my new scanner properly, let alone do what you've > done. Thanks for putting them up. > > Richard Hardy, San Diego > @juno.com > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. >-- End of excerpt from Richard A Hardy -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:22:16 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Problem with Neutral Light Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us wrote: > It seems when the bike is > parked overnight or longer and when I turn on the key to start it the > neutral light is not on. The neutral switch is a crude, but usually reliable device. It looks similar to the oil pressure switch, except it is comprised of a spring loaded plunger that is electrically isolated from chassis ground. The plunger end is supposed to contact the shift drum (or plate) when the transmission is in neutral. If the spring has sagged beyond its' design limit there will be intermittent or no contact. Another possible cause for your problem would be if the wire connected to the neutral switch is just loose or corroded. The bad news is that unlike most bikes, the neutral switch is behind the alternator cover... I would check all of the external connections before bringing to the dealer, as most of the cost of repair will be the labor to get to the switch. For those of us who grew up on bikes without neutral lights and ignition lockouts, this part of the circuit is easily defeated, and can quickly be returned to stock. All appropriate disclaimers apply... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:37:25 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Ramin Keyvan CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Ramin Keyvan wrote: > I would be most grateful if someone on the list would be so kind as to describe > to me how to remove the battery from the pc-800. Be careful what you ask for, you may get it... ;-) Remove the following: (NOTE: Open the trunk *now* - makes life a lot easier) 1) Right air duct 2) Front crash protector cover 3) Rear crash protector cover 4) Oil dipstick access panel 5) Passenger foot peg (Useful trick the manual doesn't mention) 6) Side cover (Those with Corbin seats will have to loosen or remove rider seat bolts to make clearance) 7) Lower cover 8) Simply remove battery... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:39:48 -0700 "Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure..." (Apr 14, 6:37pm) To: "Gary E. Klim" Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group AAAAIIIIEEEE!!!! Thanks....I think? ;-) Ramin On Apr 14, 6:37pm, Gary E. Klim wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... > Ramin Keyvan wrote: > > > I would be most grateful if someone on the list would be so kind as to describe > > to me how to remove the battery from the pc-800. > > Be careful what you ask for, you may get it... ;-) > > Remove the following: > (NOTE: Open the trunk *now* - makes life a lot easier) > > 1) Right air duct > 2) Front crash protector cover > 3) Rear crash protector cover > 4) Oil dipstick access panel > 5) Passenger foot peg (Useful trick the manual doesn't mention) > 6) Side cover (Those with Corbin seats will have to loosen or remove > rider seat bolts to make clearance) > 7) Lower cover > 8) Simply remove battery... > > gk > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net > ________________________________________________________________________ >-- End of excerpt from Gary E. Klim -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:02:21 -0800 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: garyklim@snet.net ("Gary E. Klim") Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC800: Problem with Neutral Light Date: 14 Apr 97 14:55:20 KDT When this happened to me last year, that was what I first thought might be the problem. The mechanic ended up putting in new clutch plates and it seemed to fix the problem. Fortunately, the bike is still under warranty, but when I take it into the shop I will ask about this again. Maybe a new neutral switch will take care of it. Thanks for the info. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC800: Problem with Neutral Light Author: garyklim@snet.net ("Gary E. Klim") at CC2MHS1 Date: 4/14/97 6:22 PM The neutral switch is a crude, but usually reliable device. It looks similar to the oil pressure switch, except it is comprised of a spring loaded plunger that is electrically isolated from chassis ground. The plunger end is supposed to contact the shift drum (or plate) when the transmission is in neutral. If the spring has sagged beyond its' design limit there will be intermittent or no contact. Another possible cause for your problem would be if the wire connected to the neutral switch is just loose or corroded. The bad news is that unlike most bikes, the neutral switch is behind the alternator cover... I would check all of the external connections before bringing to the dealer, as most of the cost of repair will be the labor to get to the switch. For those of us who grew up on bikes without neutral lights and ignition lockouts, this part of the circuit is easily defeated, and can quickly be returned to stock. All appropriate disclaimers apply... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:44:43 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Rusty Jackson CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers Is that a windmill off in the distance in picture #6? (Or should I not have any more beer tonight...) ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:01:26 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG Cc: JeffHamltn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800:Magnetic key Box GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG wrote: > > My magnetic Key Box has been secure for the 6 months I've owned my PC. > > It's on a vertical frame support behind the right hand vent. > You guys keep giving away the location of your secret spare keys, you'll be shopping for a new PC. :) Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'Gary E. Klim'" Cc: "'PC-800 E-Mail Group'" Subject: RE: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:01:48 -0700 It is, but it isn't a real one. It is part of a restaurant down below the fields. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gary E. Klim [SMTP:garyklim@snet.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 1997 4:45 PM To: Rusty Jackson Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers Is that a windmill off in the distance in picture #6? (Or should I not have any more beer tonight...) ;-) gk _______________________________________________________________________ _ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net _______________________________________________________________________ _ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:10:34 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:10:34 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? Hi all- I'm planning to fly (no time to ride :_( -- to Vancouver, BC on May 22 for 4 days. >From those more worldly than I, I'd appreciate any tips on must-see sights, motorcycle rentals (PC or ST), weather, or anything else you think I should know about. Thanks! John LaFreniere http://john.csun.edu -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:38:55 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New key I know this solution doesn't have any class, but I just keep a second key, on another key ring, in my pocket!! Phil Lewis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: garyklim@snet.net Cc: rjackson@wrightstrat.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:46:24 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Carlsbad Flowers From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Yes it is, Gary, but its part of "Pea Soup Anderson's Restaurant" and it's turned by a motor and not the wind. He has severa restaurants by the same name in California. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:44:43 -0400 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >Is that a windmill off in the distance in picture #6? (Or should I not >have any more beer tonight...) ;-) > >gk >________________________________________________________________________ >Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net >________________________________________________________________________ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:02:26 -0700 From: PILEWIS1 To: Ramin Keyvan CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Ramin Keyvan wrote: I need to take the battery out > of Erin's PC and recharge it and would really prefer not to damage the bike in > the process. I've had to remove my battery several times, once on one of our rides, when Harrison's stator died. (We swapped batteries so he could make it home, while my bike charged up his now dead battery during the trip to his house! We had to push start my bike after we had exchanged batteries.) If you're careful, you can get by with just removing the rear crash bar cover, and the oil dipstick access panel. (Of course the trunk is raised at all times!) There is a hex bolt that holds that cover in, that is around the passenger footpeg, and this needs to be removed. You don't have to remove the foot peg, just slide the cover partway over the footpeg. You also have to remove the screw that holds the side cover and the rear cover together. Those covers are held together by that screw that is at the bottom, and by a rubber grommet attachement at the top. If you are careful, you can now pull those two panels apart, and you will be able to slide the battery forward, towards the front of the bike, and then turn it toward yourself and slide it out. I have to emphasize the careful. If you're finding too much resistance, taking the battery out this way, then removing everything completely, as was mentioned by Gary, would be the way to go!! Phil Lewis -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:12:45 -0700 From: ericeric To: John L CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? John L wrote: > > Hi all- > > I'm planning to fly (no time to ride :_( -- to Vancouver, BC on May 22 for 4 > days. > > >From those more worldly than I, I'd appreciate any tips on must-see sights, > motorcycle rentals (PC or ST), weather, or anything else you think I should > know about. > > Thanks! > > John LaFreniere > http://john.csun.edu > John, If you get a chance take the ferry out to the island and visit Victoria. The ride up the rocky west shore is great, as is the rest of the island. (Given the oppurtunity I would probably go there instead of Vancouver.) Eric -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Gross" To: "pc800" Subject: PC800: Re: PC products Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:33:20 -0700 Wooohoo! ---------- > From: Johan Lai > To: slgross@halcyon.com > Subject: PC products > Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 7:25 AM > > > Hi All, > > Well, I have all the clothes in hand and they look great! > I'll be sending them off at lunch today, assuming all the > computers behave and I don't have to perform CPR on them :) > I'll confirm again when they're gone. > > Cheers, > Johan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jeff Mac-Crackin Subject: PC800: Message for Waldo Meeks To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:47:13 -0500 (CDT) Hi Waldo, I was browsing through the PC800 Web page and saw some cool pictures of your two trailers and had acouple of questions for you about them. 1) What kind of suspension do they use. From the pictures it almost looks like they don't have one. If so I was wondering how well that worked on the road. 2) How much do they weigh and how well do they pull? I built a trailer a couple of years ago for my Concours using one of those car toppers. It was too big, you could put too much stuff in it and it seriously impacted fuel economy. When I saw yours, It looked like it might just be the ticket. Thanks for any reply Q Q~ /=/\/\ __ Jeff McCracken /===///===/ Digi International /\ ==\\\ST11 jeffm@dgii.com \_/--'-'\_/` (612) 912-3192 1991 ST-1100 1991 ZX-11 1989 FZR 600 1989 EX-500 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:51:30 +0200 (MET DST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pingw@cyberway.com.sg, goran.olsson@mbox331.swipnet.se, Ian.Holman@feo.hvu.nl, msennewa@aol.com, peter@sfd.co.uk From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PC800: Update PCN pages Version 5.0 of the PCN homepage is now on the Net. More pictures, FAQ, MODS Completly new layout Smaller pictures, loading should be faster Besure to use your browsers reload button, otherwise you may see the old one instead of the new one Come and check it out! Gerard Diepeveen, Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0000 0 0 Gerard Diepeveen '89 White 0 0 0 0 00 0 Pacific Coast Netherlands 0000 0 0 0 0 ---------- Visit the ---------- 0 0 0 0 00 Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands 0 0000 0 0 webpage http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:36:48 -0700 "Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure..." (Apr 14, 8:02pm) To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Phil, Thanks much for the advise. Between this and what Gary sent me, I should be able to accomplish the task with relative ease. I guess this means I won't need the blasting caps and the torch, huh? (Just kidding dear )! Thanks again guys. Very much appreciated. Cheers, Ramin (I suppose I should do some work) Keyvan ;-) On Apr 14, 8:02pm, PILEWIS1 wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800: Battery removal procedure... > Ramin Keyvan wrote: > I need to take the battery out > > of Erin's PC and recharge it and would really prefer not to damage the bike in > > the process. > > I've had to remove my battery several times, once on one of our rides, > when Harrison's stator died. (We swapped batteries so he could make it > home, while my bike charged up his now dead battery during the trip to > his house! We had to push start my bike after we had exchanged > batteries.) If you're careful, you can get by with just removing the > rear crash bar cover, and the oil dipstick access panel. (Of course the > trunk is raised at all times!) There is a hex bolt that holds that > cover in, that is around the passenger footpeg, and this needs to be > removed. You don't have to remove the foot peg, just slide the cover > partway over the footpeg. You also have to remove the screw that holds > the side cover and the rear cover together. Those covers are held > together by that screw that is at the bottom, and by a rubber grommet > attachement at the top. If you are careful, you can now pull those two > panels apart, and you will be able to slide the battery forward, towards > the front of the bike, and then turn it toward yourself and slide it > out. I have to emphasize the careful. If you're finding too much > resistance, taking the battery out this way, then removing everything > completely, as was mentioned by Gary, would be the way to go!! > > Phil Lewis >-- End of excerpt from PILEWIS1 -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:46:56 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gordon Golder Subject: PC800: Roadside Assistance Insurance Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:46:56 +0000 Just renewed my Progressive Insurance Policy for the next year. Discovered that they now offer roadside assistance with no limit for $16.00 additional premium here in Michigan. Now, I know this kind of assistance comes with membership in various riding associations, but I happen to ride alone most of the time and don't attend rallies, except for the "Blessing of the Bikes" in Baldwin, MI on the Sunday after Mother's Day. But, I will miss that one this year, because I will be on a road trip to Atlanta and maybe as far as Orlando. Thought this might be of interest to some members of this list. Gordon -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:27:29 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:22:53 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Question about overheating Okay, here's a question for all you PC800 mechanical geniuses... I let my '89 PC (17K miles, excellent care 'til now), sit running at about 3K RPM for about 25 min while I worked some concentrated injector cleaner through the carbs (something I do whenever I'm stupid enough to fail to drain the carbs and put in some fuel stabilizer before putting it up for the winter, like I did this year). I know not to let it run much longer than that because, even with the cooling fan, I'm always afraid it will get too hot without the wind blowing through the radiator, as would be happening were the bike moving. When I've done this in past years, there's been no problem. But this year, I walked away for the last roughly 10 min of the 25 min period and when I returned, the bike was not running and about a half pint of coolant had blown out the overflow tube onto the floor. I left the key in the "on" position so the cooling fan could run a while, then I turned off the key and left the bike to get good and cool (worrying the whole time, of course, that I had let it get so hot that the engine had seized or something). Naturally I began emotionally preparing myself for a warped or cracked head or worse, a cracked block! I returned later and, crossing my fingers, I turned the key to the "on" position and hit the starter. It started right up and idled smoothly. I topped-off the coolant and wantched the temp gauge and everthing appears to be fine. So, here are my questions: 1. Of course, the big question: Given this description, is it likely a head is warped and/or the engine block is cracked? (I've checked the overflow bottle and the oil dipstick for the characteristic gray "snot" that appears when oil and coolant mix, and I see no sign of it -- although I know it may be too early to tell yet.) 2. Why, in your opinion, did the bike stop by itself when it got hot? Does the PC800 have some kind of thermocoupling or something that kills the ignition system when the engine reaches a certain temp? 3. Besides watching for the aforementioned "snot," what recommendations does anyone have for me? What should I do next? Is it safe to assume that perhaps it didn't get TOO hot and that evertything will probably be okay? Or should I begin saving now for an engine disassembly, and a magnafluxing and planing of the heads (or worse, a block replacement or something of that magnitude)? I don't mean to sound like a worry-wart, but I know these small motorcycle engines (which I presume have aluminum heads) are not as tough as an automobile engine when it comes to overheating, and if it were my automobile we were talking about, I'd certainly be worried at this point. What's the opinion of you list members (those of you with the technical expertise to comment, that is)? Gregg L. DesElms deselms@royal.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andre Espaillat" To: deselms@royal.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:21:57 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Question about overheating Reply-to: moto@flash.net DESELMS@ROYAL.NET worried: >1. Of course, the big question: Given this description, is it likely a head is warped and/or the engine block is cracked? (I've checked the overflow bottle and the oil dipstick for the characteristic gray "snot" that appears when oil and coolant mix, and I see no sign of it -- although I know it may be too early to tell yet.) =====>Your chances of head warpage or block cracking on a modern Japanese aluminum alloy/ iron liner engine are slim. We regularly see race motors that have gotten so hot that the Chernobyl crew was impressed.... Significant head warping and or liner cracking is rare. Remember, there is only one cylinder per head, so the cooling and heating is relatively consistent across the head. >2. Why, in your opinion, did the bike stop by itself when it got hot? Does the PC800 have some kind of thermocoupling or something that kills the ignition system when the engine reaches a certain temp? =====>I'm sorry, but did the bike actually get hot, or did it merely puke some coolant onto the floor? If you were idling at 3k using the choke, it probably got so rich at high temp that it died. >3. Besides watching for the aforementioned "snot," what recommendations does anyone have for me? What should I do next? Is it safe to assume that perhaps it didn't get TOO hot and that evertything will probably be okay? Or should I begin saving now for an engine disassembly, and a magnafluxing and planing of the heads (or worse, a block replacement or something of that magnitude)? =====>Smell the exhaust. The 'old time' trick of looking for a black tailpipe doesn't work any more when checking for oil use. I would just ride the thing and see if there's any major change in the oil consumption. From what I've seen, most aluminum block engines with this type of construction are nearly bulletproof. >I don't mean to sound like a worry-wart, but ... ... I'd certainly be worried at this point. >What's the opinion of you list members (those of you with the technical expertise to comment, that is)? =====>Take two aspirin and call us in about 1000 miles..... ;-) ************************************************************* Andre Espaillat - outrace@flash.net - CMRA/WERA 522 1996 WERA Southcentral Reg. Champ - Clubman Novice Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103, Carrollton, TX 75006 USA (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle. ************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:56:01 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: deselms@royal.net CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Question about overheating Gregg L. DesElms wrote: > > Okay, here's a question for all you PC800 mechanical geniuses... > > I let my '89 PC (17K miles, excellent care 'til now), sit running at > about 3K RPM for about 25 min... Question: Was there adequate coolant in the engine/overflow reservoir prior to running it? The reason I ask is that I've owned 4 water cooled bikes (Hawk GT, CBR F2, CB1000 and PC) and at one time or another each of them have run for extended periods at various RPM while performing carb sync. Without exception, the temperature would climb to the point where the fan would kick in, the temperature would drop to a point at which the fan disengaged, and the cycle would repeat. I've yet to encounter a situation where the fan wasn't able to maintain safe operating temperature. (Although a broken impeller within the water pump would definitely cause overheating, even while in motion.) If the choke was indeed left on as Andre mentions, that would be one probable cause as to why the engine stopped. On the other hand, if the temp did get too deep into the "red", it is possible to have a mild seizure that can self recover once the temp drops. (This often happens to GP bikes that are running their jetting on the ragged edge of lean) As far as advice, change the coolant and the oil. Check both for contamination. Run the bike and monitor the oil and coolant for a while. If all looks well and there's no sudden increase in oil consumption (blowby from a damaged oil ring) the engine is probably OK. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:33:00 -0700 Early last week I noticed my bike wasn't charging the battery (I have a voltage indicator light). As I was on a ride I ignored it and finished up my after-work ride - 80 miles of country backroads east of Seattle. It was sunny and in the 60's - a rare day for Seattle. When I got home I got the voltmeter out and found the bike was only putting out 12.5 volts while running instead of the normal 14v or so. I plugged in the battery charger and started scratching my head. Could it be the stator finally going out? The voltage regulator? Just a bad battery sucking juice? First thing I tried was swapping the battery with the one in my VFR - same battery! Both batteries showed 13.2 volts (normal) and the PC still showed 12.5v when I started her up. Next I checked the resistance of the 3 wires coming off the stator via a good ground connection. Good news, the stator hasn't melted. I pulled the voltage regulator out and checked all the pins per the PC800 Service Manual (one heck of a valuable book). Sure enough, I tested one pair with no resistance that should have had a lot. Next day I called the shop to order a new one for $150 and tried not to wince too loud on the phone when I heard the news. That's a lot of money for a little black box but oh well, it's money well spent I figured. You gotta ride! So with the PC stuck in the garage for a few days, my attention wandered to other work I could do while I was waiting. I still had a pair of KONI shocks for the rear that I'd been waiting over a year to install so why not now? For the curious: KONI brought a PC800 rear shock on the market just over a year ago but had to pull them a few months later because they didn't fit correctly - some of the bushings were too large. I kept mine figuring I'd find a way to grind the bushing down and make them fit. Well now was the time. I took 'em to a friend with a well equipped shop and we used his belt sander to remove about a 1/8" for each side of the upper bushings. I used a hand file to go the remaining 1/16" of an inch or so because I didn't want the belt sander to melt the rubber sleeve holding the bushings in place. This got me really close to a proper fit but not quite. I cheated a little bit by using a small washer that would fit inside the bushing up against the mounting pin where I would bolt the shocks on. This gave me just the right fit and allowed me to bolt it on with just a little play so the shock could rotate a little if needed. Great! They're on! The KONI shocks have a rotating dial on top to adjust rebound damping. Problem is the trunk on the PC covers it completely. I decided I'd cut a small round access hole in the truck liner and fill it with a rubber plug (similar to a wine bottle cork). I haven't cut the hole yet but figure it shouldn't be a problem - just need to get the rubber plug from Eagle Hardware first so I know how large I can make the hole. I'll probably get to it by this weekend. There is one remaining problem to solve with the KONI shocks: How to adjust the spring preload. The PC800 stock shocks come with an extension that lets you hook up a special tool and rotate the adjuster. The KONI's don't have such an extension. Anybody know if such an extension exists as an add-on? I haven't started investigating too hard yet but I'm sure something can be devised if I have to. So anyhow, with the trunk off and the new shocks on, my mind drifted to other projects. I removed the rear wheel and spent Sunday afternoon polishing the rims with Mothers Polish while watching the Sonics basketball team get whipped by Houston. Ouch! Afterwards I removed the rear brake shoes and cleaned all the dust off and re-lubed the mechanism, put it all back on, and called it a day. So my PC sits waiting for a new voltage regulator. Even now my mind is thinking of other projects I've been putting off. If the part doesn't arrive this week maybe I'll rebuild the front forks this weekend. I've never done it but I've read a lot about it and it sounds within my mechanical limits. I think I have 25k+ miles since they were last apart so I figure the fluid is at least worthy of changing. Any tricks or pitfalls to watch for? We'll see. I'll let you know what happens. Of and of course I'll let y'all know about the shocks I get a chance to road test! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:33:23 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Bryce Ulrich CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Bryce Ulrich wrote: > If the part doesn't arrive this week maybe I'll rebuild the front forks this weekend. ... > Any tricks or pitfalls to watch for? Search the archives for my dissertation on fork removal. It's not a difficult job, just extremely time consuming. I was able to change the fork fluid on my old '82 GS-750T without ever having to remove the fork caps! For those of you that have bikes with air adjustable forks, I have a method of changing fluid that's worth at least a case of beer...(ok, maybe just a 6-pack) ;-) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Gross" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:30:48 -0700 Bryce, when ya run out of stuff to do on yours, I'll bring mine over. (It's not like he doesn't have another one to ride.... ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Gary E. Klim'" Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: RE: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:39:43 -0700 Thank you Gary. Already had a copy of your July posting on fork removal. Searched the archives again and found a discussion on heavier fork oil as well. Another project comes to mind while I have the main fairing covering apart - repairing cracks in the plastic. Yes, already collected old threads on the subject explaining plastic welding and repair. More interesting work to do. If it's rainy this weekend I'll do it. And what would the odds be of a rainy weekend in Seattle? (rhetorical question, no need to reply) Sure glad I have other bikes to ride. \"/ -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gary E. Klim [SMTP:garyklim@snet.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 4:33 PM To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Search the archives for my dissertation on fork removal. It's not a difficult job, just extremely time consuming. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:17:56 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:18:13 -0400 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: PC800 $$$ To: "Fellow PC800's" , HSTA Posting to listr Well the mail brought something nice today....my TITLE to my 90 pc800, I bought it in april of 94 used and financed it for 3 yrs....the sell price was 3800.@<10k miles onit, radio, tall shield.....with financing it came to 4k$....so whats the point...well at the MOMMA's ride, the dealer has a 90 for sale in his show room, so you say nothing specail right......read on... ^^^^^^^^ FOR SALE^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1990 PC800 red, pinstripes, clean, good tread, 19,885 miles on odometer, no radio, tall windshld Dealer ASKING $3850.00 call Gene@ 513-422-5471 Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha of Middletown, Ohio so you say humm... 3 yrs and the same price.....shows what demand can do..... disclaimer---this is not meant as spam just as friendly banter..... Fireman Joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:33:52 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:29:23 -0700 From: "Gregg L. DesElms" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Question about overheating Gary E. Klim wrote: > If the choke was indeed left on as Andre mentions, that would be one -----------------------------------SNIP--------------------------------- >From the responses (for which I'm grateful, by the way), I realize I left out important info from my original post, to wit: 1. I wasn't running just injector cleaner through the engine. It was one large bottle mixed with about one gal. of 93 octane unleaded fuel. And there was no problem with that part. The problem is the overheating. 2. The coolant, prior to this event, was fine -- a proper 50/50 mix, up to proper level, fresh as of last July and re-checked today for proper level prior to first starting the engine. 3. I did not keep the RPM up to 3500 using the choke. That would have been really dumb. I started the engine using the choke, of course. Then I allowed it to warm to the point that it would stay running without the choke. Then I used a screwdriver carefully wedged in between the throttle handle and the plastic handlebar cover to keep the RPM right at 3500 for the 20 mins. And, no, the engine did not stop because the screwdriver fell out. When I re-entered the garage, the engine was stopped, the screwdriver was still in its place with the throttle still in its original position. The key was in the 'on' position. There was still more than 1/4 tank of fuel. There was coolant all over the floor and coolant dripping from the overflow tube. And the engine was making a sort of soft hissing noise. I'm clear about everything everyone has written. But I'm still confused about why the engine stopped. That's what made me worry that it had siezed or something. And that's why I was so relieved when it started-up so easily and ran so well after I let it cool down. At least I knew it hadn't siezed. But I still can't figure why it stopped just because it got hot enough to blow coolant out the overflow tube. At any rate, I really appreciate what you guys have written so far. I'm relieved, of course, to read that there is a low probability that I've done damage. (Anyone who disagrees with that assessment, please speak up!) I hadn't realized that these engines were so tough. I guess I thought just the opposite. (My V45 Sabre engine was not in the least bit tough. Perhaps my memories of that experience have made me overly cautious about the PC). I took the bike out for a spin a few hours after I made my earlier post, and everything seemed fine. No funny noises. Smooth running. Lots of power. Temp stayed in normal range. Cooling fan working okay. Hmmmm. Any other advice or observations that anyone else could give would still be appreciated. Gregg DesElms deselms@royal.net -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:20:16 -0700 id Megw.3618877 ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:18:39 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:24:00 -0700 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: Re: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) To: ""Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)"" I'd definately recommend you install a new set of "Progressive springs" for the front forks as I was advised to. I just had it done and the front end feels much more solid. Kind of thing that you can live without untill you feel the difference.' ' ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Author: "Bryce Ulrich" at -FABRIK/Internet Date: 4/15/97 12:33 PM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich Date: Tue, Apr 15, 1997 12:33 PM Subject: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) To: "Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)"; Bruce Modlin If the part doesn't arrive this week maybe I'll rebuild the front forks this weekend. I've never done it but I've read a lot about it and it sounds within my mechanical limits. I think I have 25k+ miles since they were last apart so I figure the fluid is at least worthy of changing. Any tricks or pitfalls to watch for? We'll see. I'll let you know what happens. Of and of course I'll let y'all know about the shocks I get a chance to road test! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ---------- with SMTP (Fabrik F07.0-000) id SINN.4860046@post.fabrik.com ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:50:11 -0700 sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAB28663; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:45:19 -0500 (CDT) Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:44:59 -0500 (CDT) for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:44:51 -0500 (CDT) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26136 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:08:53 -0500 (CDT) <7BB61B44F197D011892800805FD4F7924E1F46@RED-03-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> From: Bryce Ulrich To: "Honda Pacific Coast Internet List (E-mail)" Subject: PC800: Had to do a little work on the ole' PC (long) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:33:00 -0700 ---------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" , "'Eric Matthews'" , "'Gale LaFreniere'" , "'Greg Chambers'" , "'Harrison Spain'" <_spain@edsug.com>, "'Johan Lai'" To: "'John LaFreniere'" , "'Phil Lewis'" , Rusty Jackson , "'Stephen A. Churchill'" , "'Steve Schibuola'" Subject: PC800: Domain is messed up. Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:00:29 -0700 Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know that my domain is temporarily messed up so mail will probably bounce back for a day or so. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Hiding a key & cost of key From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:40:06 EDT I had a PC800 key made today at the locksmith's. He charged me just under $3. The blank was made by Curtis and is key blank number HD-75 (sez, fits "FITS HONDA U.S.A." Then I removed the oil dipstick cover and laid the key in there and it sits on a tiny shelf. I put a dollop of Duco Cement (it will break away if I pry up on that key) and then laid 1" wide 3M packaging tape (the one with the nylon strings in it and put a tab at one end of the tape and laid it across the key and about an inch or more on each side. I feel it will really stick there. Thanks to you who gave me your ideas. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: deselms@royal.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Question about overheating From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:51:48 EDT Dying engine unattended. Worry. My advice for what it is worth, don't worry about it. Rocky Motorcyclist since 1952 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:02:45 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:02:45 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: New URL for my page Due to more restrictive university politics... er, I mean policy, my URL has changed. For those who have links to it, please change them to: http://hhd.csun.edu/john/ For those who don't link to it, feel free to check out some pictures of my bike, my wifes bike, a few anamated gifs and some mildly interesting links if you like. All former e-mail addresses will continue to work. Thanks for your understanding John LaFreniere http://hhd.csun.edu/john -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:51:04 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: b-dorman@miint.net (Bob Dorman) Subject: PC800: PC for sale Got a postcard in the mail this weekend: "I would like to purchase a PC800, any year...will pay cash and can pick it up." Ric Seel work:419-832-7503 1-800-964-6680 Home: 419-832-2317 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Gordon Gazaway To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: FW: One of the most accurate posts I've ever read... Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:53:46 -0700 Had to share this one with you. Gordon Gazaway '90 w/8600 miles and climbing > This needs no introduction. > > Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > to change a light bulb? > > A: 1,331: > 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail > list that the light bulb has been changed > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light > bulbs and how the light bulb could have been > changed differently. > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about > changing light bulbs. > 53 to flame the spell checkers > 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about > the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness > to this mail list. > 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and > to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, > alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing > light bulbs be stopped. > 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we > are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts > **are** relevant to this mail list. > 306 to debate which method of changing light > bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, > what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique, and what brands are faulty. > 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of > different light bulbs > 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and > to post corrected URLs. > 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that > are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs > relevant to this list. > 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote > them including all headers and footers, and then > add "Me Too." > 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing > because they cannot handle the light bulb > controversey. > 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion > was meant for, leave it here. > 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > > ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'b-dorman@miint.net'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: PC for sale Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:27:45 -0700 This is probably an exporter. They buy the bikes cheap here in the states and ship them overseas and mark up the price to around $10,000. The ST1100 owners have been targeted in the past. Some say they are getting their mailing list from license registration databases. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: b-dorman@miint.net [SMTP:b-dorman@miint.net] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 1997 2:51 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: PC for sale Got a postcard in the mail this weekend: "I would like to purchase a PC800, any year...will pay cash and can pick it up." Ric Seel work:419-832-7503 1-800-964-6680 Home: 419-832-2317 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:40:42 -0700 Stanley park and the rest of the Vancouver waterfront. There's also a suspended bride outside of town that crosses a deep gorge. It's well advertised and a beautiful place. Close to the bridge is a gondola ride to the top of a ski area for an overlook of the whole city. If it should happen to be a clear day it's outstanding. Vancouver aquarium is another big attraction complete with killer whales. If you have a clear day, drive up the coastline north of Vancouver around sunset. The "Sea to Sky" highway runs along the shoreline and overlooks the water and all the islands. It ends at Whistler Resort where you could easily go skiing and perhaps a round of golf in late May. Victoria is awesome as well and a great trip on the very cool BC Ferries. Very different city from Vancouver and worth it. Weather: Anything goes in the Pacific Northwest except really hot and dry. Less than 5% chance it would be warm enough for shorts (70 degrees). Better than 50% chance you'll see rain while you're there. In fact, I'd count on having it rain. Rule of thumb: If you don't like the weather as is right now just wait an hour for it to change. As for MC rentals, I've seen them for rent at many of scooter rental places - especially in Victoria. I don't recall anything special but a bike is better than a scooter in any city with hills. Enjoy the trip! -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MickeyMatt@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA27370 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:07:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New List Subscriber Actually, an old subscriber coming back. About me: Name: Matt Humphreys Location: Middle of Nowhere PA Email: mickeymatt@aol.com PC Model year (if you have one): 95 Bought Used/New: Used, 3k Modifications made to bike: Honda backrest, then made a larger one to bolt to same supports, another horn, third brake light on backrest, tall Rifle w/shield. Mine is tinted, which they sent when I cracked the clear one installing it. However, now I would really like a clear one again. Anybody want to swap? Chat wit ya later... -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: bryceu@MICROSOFT.com Cc: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:40:42 -0700 Bryce Ulrich writes: >Stanley park and the rest of the Vancouver waterfront. There's also a >suspended bride outside of town Gosh, Bryce, that must hurt! How long are they going to leave her there? Doesn't her husband get mad? Sorry, couldn't resist :) Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 20:57:35 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 20:57:35 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: Re: PC800: Suspended Bride At 07:47 PM 4/17/97 -0700, Richard A Hardy wrote: >>Stanley park and the rest of the Vancouver waterfront. There's also a >>suspended bride outside of town > >Gosh, Bryce, that must hurt! How long are they going to leave her there? > Doesn't her husband get mad? > >Sorry, couldn't resist :) > >Richard Hardy, San Diego >@juno.com > Hardy, har har. ;-) John LaFreniere http://hhd.csun.edu/john -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:17:38 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: new us www page! hi gang. I've been in touch with Neill. He seems to be having trouble resubscribing to the list for some reason. We may have solved some of the problems regarding server space et al for a NEW page!! I'll keep the list informed, and to Mark and others who responded before, we'll be in touch again. also...I'd love to look into an INTERNIC name for us. www.PC800.com comes to mind...anyone want to chip in some $$ or know how to go about this??? -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:42:58 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: FW: One of the most accurate posts I've ever read... To: PC800 List It's scary . . . just replace "light bulb" with "oil" . . . ;D -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:42:56 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: RE: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? To: Bryce Ulrich , PC800 List > There's also a suspended bride outside of town that crosses >a deep gorge. ^^^^^ A suspended bride?!! Cool !!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:42:56 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: RE: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? To: Bryce Ulrich , PC800 List > There's also a suspended bride outside of town that crosses >a deep gorge. ^^^^^ A suspended bride?!! Cool !!!!!!!! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA05692; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) To: SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com, bryceu@microsoft.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? In a message dated 97-04-18 09:05:04 EDT, SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com (Steve Schibuola) writes: << > There's also a suspended bride outside of town that crosses >a deep gorge. ^^^^^ A suspended bride?!! Cool !!!!!!!! >> Bryce has always hated "G's". That's why he never flys and doesn't ride very fast. He also never goes on amusement park rides. Weak stomach. Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA08550; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:42:53 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: PC800: IL Ride, Sunday the 18th Hello gang, I've got my clock set correctly now so I won't be an hour late again. I was thinking that perhaps we could try a portion of the Ride Around the Lake route???? Of course we can vote at Downers Grove Honda, just East of Ogden and 355 on Ogden at 10AM. The weather forcast is, as has been the custom around here, semi sunny but in the 50's. See you there. Z 773-235-0933 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:32:00, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Article fyi, The May issue of Rider magazine has a story about our PC800 called "Peak to Peak". ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 08:20:06 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Vancouver attractions Hi all, The suspension bridge is in Capilano State Park. It's quite a view to the bottom of the gorge. The mountain is Grouse Mountain. Great restaurant at the top with a mighty incredible view of the entire area. Well worth the tram ride. Erin in Mountain View, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:04:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael D. Bowman" To: PC 800 Owners Hi again. I guess I am not registered on the E-mail list yet, but its a good thing because I don't get to a computer often and I'm not sure how many messages my account at the university will hold. I had been reading the archives and came accross the messages about the loss of gas mileage combined with the gas odor. My bike started with decreased mpg at about30,000 miles and on a recent trip seemed to get worse. It was about 50 mpg and now is closer to 40, has a gas odor when shut off, and slightly decreased performance. Has the problem been identified by anyone? I could use some help on this as my mechanical skills are limited, and the local mechanics do not see many, if any, PC 800's. My 89 did make it to Mexico and back to PA even with all that bad weather in Texas the last few weeks. Thanks for any information you cpould give me. Mike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:57:08 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:57:08 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: Re: PC800: new us www page! >also...I'd love to look into an INTERNIC name for us. www.PC800.com >comes to mind...anyone want to chip in some $$ or know how to go about >this??? >-- When I checked about 6months ago, "www.pc800.com" wasn't available. Now it seems to be. Also "www.pc800.org" seems to be available. I'd be willing to chip in $10 - $20 for the domain name. "www.pc800.com" gets my vote. To see if a domain name is available, check here: http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois A word of caution: Some companies buy domain names and try to resell them, so I wouldn't contact a commercial web hosting service until we own the domain name. If anyone has a Primary and Secondary Domain name controller, the domain name can be bought directly from internic. Most commercial online services will, for an additional fee, put the domain name in their DNS server and forward requests to your account page. From the users perspective, they type in www.pc800.com, but automatically end up at members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ If it ends up being a new account (how do the monthly fees get paid?), this company offers a pretty good deal for web hosting: http://www.SimpleNet.com/ Services can also compared at: http://www.SimpleNet.com/compare.html I am not affiliated with the above company, nor am I a customer. But I've been thinking about a web page hosted commercially (I'm restricted to University Policy with the "edu" suffix), and this is who I'd go with if I had to choose now. Of course, if someone already has an account they'd want to convert to "www.pc800.com", that might make more sense. John LaFreniere http://hhd.csun.edu/john His: 89 PC800 - Pearl White Hers: 96 Kawasaki Eliminator -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Registering pc800.org (Was: new us www page!) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 18 Apr 1997 11:28:04 -0500 Lines: 19 >>>>> "JL" == John L writes: JL> When I checked about 6months ago, "www.pc800.com" wasn't available. JL> Now it seems to be. Also "www.pc800.org" seems to be available. I would register pc800.org (the www has nothing to do with it). The intent of .com doesn't really fit here. JL> If anyone has a Primary and Secondary Domain name controller, the JL> domain name can be bought directly from internic. Me. I need to wait about a week to see where I will be working, since I'm changing jobs but have not yet chosen which department (CS or Math, basically) I want to work for. Once I've moved over I and am stable I'll take this up again. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA28501 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:38 -0400 (EDT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Bike Well, if you remember, my 89 PC was trashed in an accident. I got the insurance settlement a week ago and started looking for new bikes. Yesterday I bought a slightly used 1994 PC--very good looking in black with silver. I salvaged the backrest off my 89 and installed a throttle lock. I bought a new helmet and now I'm good to go. Thanks for the support from all of you. Hope to see you on the road. Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: New Bike Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:02:54 -0700 Congratulations on the new bike Jeff! Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com [SMTP:JeffHamltn@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 1997 9:53 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Bike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'GuntherSki@aol.com'" , SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:02:41 -0700 False, false, false, true, and false. Todd's correct about amusement park rides - don't like 'em. I prefer having control over my destiny so have a very tough time in situations where I'm not such as a roller coaster. Who'd have thought. As for the others - well let's just say I hit redline this morning on the VFR and I'm flying to Phoenix next week. Gee I'm hungry. \"/ -bryceu -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com [SMTP:GuntherSki@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 1997 6:38 AM To: SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com; Bryce Ulrich; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver points of intrest? In a message dated 97-04-18 09:05:04 EDT, SteveSchibuola@compuserve.com (Steve Schibuola) writes: << > There's also a suspended bride outside of town that crosses >a deep gorge. ^^^^^ A suspended bride?!! Cool !!!!!!!! >> Bryce has always hated "G's". That's why he never flys and doesn't ride very fast. He also never goes on amusement park rides. Weak stomach. Z -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:29:15 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:29:15 -0700 To: "Michael D. Bowman" , PC 800 Owners From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) Subject: PC800: Re: gas mileage, odor At 11:04 AM 4/18/97 -0400, Michael D. Bowman wrote: >Hi again. I guess I am not registered on the E-mail list yet, but its a >good thing because I don't get to a computer often and I'm not sure how >many messages my account at the university will hold. I had been reading >the archives and came accross the messages about the loss of gas mileage >combined with the gas odor. My bike started with decreased mpg at >about30,000 miles and on a recent trip seemed to get worse. It was about >50 mpg and now is closer to 40, has a gas odor when shut off, and slightly >decreased performance. Has the problem been identified by anyone? I could >use some help on this as my mechanical skills are limited, and the local >mechanics do not see many, if any, PC 800's. My 89 did make it to Mexico >and back to PA even with all that bad weather in Texas the last few weeks. > Thanks for any information you cpould give me. Mike > I'm not a mechanic, but the first thing I'd do is check the air filter. A very dirty air filter can cause the symptoms you discribe. My mileage increased from 30 to 36 mpg when I changed mine. I weigh 220, and drive 90% city stop & go, so I think thats as good as it gets for me. Good luck. John LaFreniere http://hhd.csun.edu/john His: 89 PC800 - Pearl White Hers: 96 Kawasaki Eliminator -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Michael D. Bowman'" , PC 800 Owners Subject: PC800: RE: Fuel Smell Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:23:40 -0700 Your problems are consistent with a problem that was traced to small holes in a part of the fuel petcock. The petcock is vacuum operated and there is a small rubber diaphragm inside that may develop very small pinholes causing it to slowly leak gasoline. The droplets of gas get sucked back into the carbs while running and evaporate when you shut off the engine giving off that wonderful aroma. There is a small drain at the bottom of the petcock that may show a brown colored stain, similar to tobacco juice. Popular opinion as to the cause was higher octane fuels. It's very tough to pinpoint though because of variations in fuel additives throughout brands and regions of the country. Honda was contacted about it but didn't do anything. The diaphragm is not orderable as a separate part - you have to replace the entire petcock part. I replaced mine for about $80 if I remember right. Popular opinion decided regular unleaded fuel was sufficient for the PC800 and less likely to cause the problem. You results may vary of course. The petcock is located under the top shelter (the fake gas tank). It's bolted near the fuel door and has several rubber hoses hanging off it, including the fuel line. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Michael D. Bowman [SMTP:mdbowman@planetx.bloomu.edu] Sent: Friday, April 18, 1997 8:05 AM To: PC 800 Owners Subject: Hi again. I guess I am not registered on the E-mail list yet, but its a good thing because I don't get to a computer often and I'm not sure how many messages my account at the university will hold. I had been reading the archives and came accross the messages about the loss of gas mileage combined with the gas odor. My bike started with decreased mpg at about30,000 miles and on a recent trip seemed to get worse. It was about 50 mpg and now is closer to 40, has a gas odor when shut off, and slightly decreased performance. Has the problem been identified by anyone? I could use some help on this as my mechanical skills are limited, and the local mechanics do not see many, if any, PC 800's. My 89 did make it to Mexico and back to PA even with all that bad weather in Texas the last few weeks. Thanks for any information you cpould give me. Mike -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:34:36 +0100 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: mdbowman@planetx.bloomu.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:14:27 +0100 Subject: PC800: Re: mdbowman@planetx.bloomu.edu,Internet writes: >. My bike started with decreased mpg at >about30,000 miles and on a recent trip seemed to get worse. It was about >50 mpg and now is closer to 40, has a gas odor when shut off, and >slightly >decreased performance. Yup, same with me. I had the bike checked and there was no gas leak! John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:40:47 -0700 (MST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rbailey@primenet.com (Randy D. Bailey) Subject: PC800: Concours vs PC800 I've been out bike shopping today and have a couple of questions you may be able to help me answer: A little background: I commute on an 1986 Kawasaki Concours (stoneage technology, but it gets me there and back). I also own 1988 and 1989 Honda Hawk GTs and a 1985 XR350R for fun riding. I'm selling the Concours for $2,200 will use the $ as a downpayment on either a PC800 or a new Concours. My wife and I enjoying weekend tours on the Concours into the White Mountains of Arizona--fairly steep grades, elevations up to 9,100 feet. The quandry: The price of a new Concours or PC800 is about the same (in the range of $9,000) as the Concours. Will the PC800 handle 2-up touring, including 85mph on the Interstate? I know the top speed is rated at 107mph or so for the PC800...does the engine/chassis handle long freeway streches well with 300+ pounds of rider+passenger? Also, can someone compare the relative performance of the two bikes. (I'm twisting the arm of the dealer to let me ride the showroom bike, but he's a bit hesitant to put miles on a new one that I may not buy -- he doesn't have a used one in stock for me to try). I would appreciate any advice you could share. I really like the PC800 style, color, ease of maintenance, but am concerned it will be way down on power and may not have adequate suspension for touring compared to the Concours. Thanks Randy ============================================================== Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 Tempe, AZ USA 85226 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:53:38 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Erin Dolin CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver attractions Erin Dolin wrote: > > Hi all, > > The suspension bridge is in Capilano State Park. It's quite a view > to the bottom of the gorge. The mountain is Grouse Mountain. Great > restaurant at the top with a mighty incredible view of the entire > area. Well worth the tram ride. > > Erin in Mountain View, CA > 'scuse me but the suspension bridge I believe he is speaking of is the Lion's Gate Bridge (not bride) with a view of Lions Head Mount (a geological feature reminicent of its name) The bridge starts in Stanley Park and crosses over the mouth of Vancouver Harbor to North Vancouver (or is it Northwest Vancouver?) BTW make sure you see the water nymph in Stanley Park! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 1085 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 15:02:02 PDT From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, schrchll@inetworld.net Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver attractions REPLY TO 04/18/97 14:54 FROM schrchll@INETWORLD.NET: Re: PC800: Vancouver attractions There are two suspension bridges. Lion's Head is one that automobile traffic crosses (not sure if there's foot traffic) and Capilano is strictly foot traffic (reminiscent of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom). Both are great and Stanley Park is a lot of fun. Erin (who you calling a nymph?) Dolin in Mountain View, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET cc: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Erin.Dolin@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, schrchll@inetworld.net Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver attractions From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:12:01 EDT If that guy who is going to Vancouver is bored there I will jump off that suspended bride, I don't care how cute she is. I've never been there but our woman friend goes up there from Phoenix on her days off to see her honey (she is a flight attendant) and she just loves the place. So like if you get bored up there it won't due to any lack on the part of the members of this net. Have fun and get me a t-shirt that I can proudly wear. I want it to say, "I had a wild ride across a suspended bride on a motorcycle that looks like a cake of soap and some Indian nut says sounds like a golf cart." Le Roche -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #18580) Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:44:22 CDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:43:46 -0400 From: Roger Prince Subject: Re: PC800: Vancouver attractions To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: PC800 Mail List Reply-to: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com <3357ED62.226B@inet1.inetworld.net> > BTW make sure you see the water nymph in Stanley Park! Maybe that's the "suspension bride"? Roger -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'rbailey@primenet.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: Concours vs PC800 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:23:42 -0700 The PC will handle the weight of 2-up touring. I think you'll have even more storage room than the Concours. Power is fine up through 85 mph and past. No worries regardless of load. Myself and others can testify to 2-up riding full of camping gear. The PC800 twin motor is torquey and the PC has a nice smooth power curve all the way up past redline. The Concours is "buzzy" and noisier than the PC (at least one with a taller windshield). PC maintenance is changing fluids, filters, and plugs. The biggest difference will be driving range. The Concours has a massive gas tank while the PC has 4.2 gallons giving you 140-200 miles per tank (depending on driving style, speed, etc). Correct me if I'm wrong but the Concours goes 300+ per fillup of 8 gallons or so, right? As for price, used PC's sell frequently in the 3500-4500 range if you're looking to save money. There are negligible difference between model years with the exception of the '97 which has a different front fender and no self-canceling turn signals. Other than that it's pick your favorite color. Perhaps some of our Arizona friends will let you have a test drive. Volunteers? -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ramin Keyvan" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:21:33 -0700 "PC800: Concours vs PC800" (Apr 18, 2:40pm) To: rbailey@primenet.com (Randy D. Bailey), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Concours vs PC800 Randy, I feel somewhat qualified to answer your questions as I ride a 1995 Connie and Erin rides a 95 pc800. We've gone riding two up on both of them and have had no problems with either. On Apr 18, 2:40pm, Randy D. Bailey wrote: > Subject: PC800: Concours vs PC800 < > The quandry: > > The price of a new Concours or PC800 is about the same (in the range of > $9,000) as the Concours. Will the PC800 handle 2-up touring, including > 85mph on the Interstate? I know the top speed is rated at 107mph or so for > the PC800...does the engine/chassis handle long freeway streches well with > 300+ pounds of rider+passenger? > Yes to all of the above! The PC comfortably handles my rather substantial 235lb frame plus Erin plus (as George Carlin would say) *stuff* in the trunk. We've put 300 mile days on the bike two up and been relatively comfortable (except for the fact that the stock windscreen is too short and you get a burble band around the middle of your face that gets REALLY LOUD at 75+mph. Erin gets pretty beat up by it as well.). The thing I like about the PC engine is that there is always torque available to you. I've done 90mph blasts up the local freeway on-up with no ill effects. > Also, can someone compare the relative performance of the two bikes. (I'm > twisting the arm of the dealer to let me ride the showroom bike, but he's a > bit hesitant to put miles on a new one that I may not buy -- he doesn't > have a used one in stock for me to try). > The biggest difference you will notice is that the PC pulls hard right off idle but doesn't have the RUSH that the connie does, simply due to the differences in engine configuration (2 cyl. vs. 4 cyl.). The connie has 108bhp at the rear wheel (I don't know the PC figure), has more ground clearance and stiffer, adjustable suspension, and about equivalent storage capacity in removeable bags. As you probably already know, both bikes are water cooled, and shaft driven. The PC is considerably quieter at ANY speed than the Connie. The buzziness that most people complain about on the Connie can dialed out of the engine with a small adjustment to the crankshaft balancer (10 mins.) Both the Connie and the PC have twin two-piston calipers up front and the PC has a rear drum brake vs. the Connie's rear disk. A big pro in favor of the PC is "Fit an Finish". The Connie suffers from the age old "slap-it-together" sloppiness that Kawasaki is famous for. Big K knows how to build a damn good motor, but they can't do "looks" to save their souls! The PC also has a smaller tank than the Connie (7.5 gals.) but it gets better gas mileage so some of the range problems are offset. The PC also has no "Reserve" petcock. So if you're used to the Connie's petcock, you'll have to unlearn waiting for the engine to start coughing before looking for a gas station because on a PC you're out of gas!!! > I would appreciate any advice you could share. I really like the PC800 > style, color, ease of maintenance, but am concerned it will be way down on > power and may not have adequate suspension for touring compared to the > Concours. A good friend of mine and his wife (He: 6'4" 290lbs, She: 5'6" 190lbs) took a PC demo ride, two-up, at a Bike show in some of the hills surrounding South San Francisco a coupl of years ago and when they got back his comment was "Damn! This thing's got some guts!" The real question you've got to answer is whether or not you want to do heavier, canyon-carving sport touring or a slightly more laid-back sport touring. The PC is not as flickable on the twisties as the Connie, but damn!, she sure is nice pulling out of corners in almost any gear!! > > Thanks > > Randy > I hope this helps. Feel free to contact me with any more questions you may have. I'll be glad to answer what I can. Cheers, Ramin Keyvan -- ------------------------------------------------------ |Ramin Keyvan | Voice: 415-846-5169 | |Member Technical Staff/ | FAX: 415-846-1228 | |Release Group | Main #:415-846-5000 | |ramin@tibco.com | Beeper:800-SKY-GRAM | |http://www.tibco.com | Beeper Pin #: 471-3186# | ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:58:17 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: from Neill !!!! HI GANG!. This msg arrived to me from Neill. ************ I got subscribed successfully from this account. I think that my work email account was just behaving very slowly. The only thing it says at www.tripod.com/~pc800 is, "Under Construction" I just got the space. Registering the pc800.org is OK but it still doesn't get us server space which is what we really need. Just because you have the name registered doesn't mean that a server's owner will let you put it up there. I would like to make a proposal... I suggest that we form a web page committee. We can give the password for the web site to all the committee members and identify areas of responsibility. Then it just becomes a matter of coordinating our efforts. At least initially, I think that we should have periodic meetings and I have a plan for how to do that. There are chat sites on the net. I have located one which is car oriented, I think we could use it. If you want to check it out, go to: http://www.extremeterrain.com:4080 Click on "I'm new here" and download the ichat plug-in for your browser. Install the plug-in. Restart your browser and return to http://www.extremeterrain.com:4080 and then go to login. If you fill in a name and password and attempt to login, it should fail and offer you the chance to create a new login. Create a login which will clearly identify you. I registered as "Thompson". You will find that the site is divided into rooms and I think you will find that it is largely empty. I think once the committee is formed, we should schedule a meeting and either pick one of the rooms or the site allows for the creation of private rooms if we want. While we could have virtual meetings via email and I'm sure that alot of that will be necessary, I think that if we can get everybody (or at least a quorum) together at the same time, we can resolve issues in minutes instead of days or weeks. I think that if we put 3-6 people on a committee we could manage it. I think that we should agree to put up test versions of changes and have everybody vote/agree to the changes before we go live with them. At the risk of becoming too bureaucratic, I think we should take a very business like approach to this thing. We don't want the page to LOOK like a bunch of different people put it together, we want consistancy throughout as much as possible. We can also make group decisions as to scope and content. We could be thinking about the duties that we might need people to fill. Obviously if we keep some of the current structure, work could be divided along those lines but there are some issues like getting our registration changed at places like Yahoo and Infoseek to point to the new site. I can put a pointer at the current site but I don't want to have to do that indefinitely. Someone could be in charge of checking our external links and making sure that they are still valid or suggesting new ones. (I find that AMA has a page now!) Someone could manage the overall look and feel, the use of frames, basically the standards for all the content areas to adhere to so that it doesn't begin to look like a hodge-podge. I think that if I didn't have to do the whole thing, I would like to be a part of the committee maybe even act as a coordinator. I just don't have the time or energy to do the whole thing anymore. Hell I have a hard time keeping up with the listserver mail. Let me know if you think that the ichat committee meeting would work. It would be like a free international conference call (text only!) but I think with a little work we could arrange it and be very productive! -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ramin@tibco.com Cc: rbailey@primenet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Concours vs PC800 From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 23:54:41 EDT Hmmmm. Kawasaki has a problem making things look good? You may be right but I was knocked off my pegs when on my way in 1973 to get a Honda Four---the old 750cc and on the way out I saw a sign on the Kawasaki dealer, 'THE 903s ARE HERE!" "Oh my gosh," I thought, and I immediately remember the pics in Cycle World of the new Z-1. I went in there and never did make it to the Honda Dealer. I had the 1st Z-1 in town and people freaked out to see it. I think it had the Honda four beat six ways to Sunday on looks. But many models have come and gone and maybe your opinion is correct in the 90s and even was in the 80s. I got no taste except in my tongue for ice cream. I wish I still had that Z-1--it is worth much today. I will tell you--if I still had it and it came time to take a trip the Z-1 would stay in the garage and the PC would go on the trip. I love it. Rocky -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: from Neill !!!! From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 Apr 1997 00:31:40 -0500 Lines: 24 >>>>> "DG" == Dave Gross writes: DG> HI GANG!. This msg arrived to me from Neill. I'll reply publicly and hope it gets there. DG> Registering the pc800.org is OK but it still doesn't get us server DG> space which is what we really need. Somebody's missing something here. Server space? Does a few spare gigabytes on my web server machine count? I have big piles of infrastructure. DG> Just because you have the name registered doesn't mean that a server's DG> owner will let you put it up there. Yes, but I have both nameservers required for registration. No sense in paying some provider money over and above what InterNIC wants. The only thing I can't donate is time. I can give an account or three to those who want to maintain the thing, but I just don't have the time to play with HTML. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA13673; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:34:47 -0400 (EDT) To: vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Discussion on oil In a message dated 97-04-10 11:47:42 EDT, vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net (Vincent Santamaria) writes: << As far the change interval goes, I believe that the manufacturers would not give a high mileage number. In fact I would bet that their number is even conservative since they all want their vehicles to be know as being very reliable. >> Don't count on that. You are assuming that the manufacturers are free to provide whatever service interval they want. About 15 years ago, the Feds stepped in and decreed that all cars must provide a 7,500 mile service interval. I was working at a multiline dealership at the time (including GM). GM, for one, was very concerned about this requirement and made it known that they serviced their fleet vehicles at 3,000 mile intervals and recommended that anyone using their car in a "harsh" climate do likewise. What's a harsh climate? Well, one where there is dust, for example. So, unless you keep your car in a Skinner Box, you might consider a shorter oil change interval than that "recommended" by the "manufacturer". You oil is a repository for all sorts of blow by products which result from the combustion process. Changing it removes these potentially harmful impurities... Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA09881; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) To: outrace@flash.net, jgoula@ims.alaska.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Tire Wear In a message dated 97-04-11 14:40:44 EDT, outrace@flash.net (Andre Espaillat) writes: << =====>ML2's are available in stock from my supplier. I've verified this at 1:30 p local time on 4/11/97 The front tire is available for $165. The rear is $200. Prices include shipping in the continental US. >> At those prices, I would expect they would be. They could import them from Germany each with their own seat on the plane. FWIW, the competitive prices on these tires are: less than $100 for the front and less than $120 for the rear. Full boat retail is 137.99 for the front and 169.99 for the rear! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA05134; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:34:37 -0400 (EDT) To: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: new us www page! In a message dated 97-04-18 14:20:19 EDT, pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (John L) writes: << I'd be willing to chip in $10 - $20 for the domain name. "www.pc800.com" gets my vote. >> So would I! Regards, <> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pacific Coast" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Neill speaks: The web page Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:25:46 PDT Hi folks its me, Neill. I apologize for my absence for what? A year? A lot has been going on in my life. The biggest thing... I got married this past Valentine's Day. You can check it out at: www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1156 And don't worry, she isn't gonna curtail my riding. She has a Suzuki Intruder 800 of her own. In fact we actually met at a MSF class in '94. Little Wing, my '94 is pretty close to rolling 24K miles, so you know it isn't sitting idle a lot! Some of the other major events: We moved into a new house here in Phoenix last October. This past fall, the company I work for downsized dramatically. I happened to be one of the "keepers". My ex-wife has been giving me major grief (lawyer and going to court type grief) regarding my visitation rights with my daughters (aged 8 & 12). Those things have been keeping me pretty occupied. But now, the combination of guilt over the lack of attention that the PC800 web page has gotten and the light at the end of the tunnel for some of that other life stuff has drawn me out of retirement. I think it's very gracious of Jason to offer the space and those who have offered to chip in for registering the name. (I happen to agree with Jason that .org is more appropriate than .com.) As I said in my earlier message to Dave, I think a web page committee should formed. I think registering a name and choosing a site for our page are issues that the committee should put on their agenda and make a decision on. I am pretty much at a loss as to how to select the committee. I guess my suggestion is that anyone who is interested in working on the web page should post to the list and identify what they are interested in doing. Obviously anyone can make suggestions. I think we need people with special skills in HTML, CGI scripting, graphics, text editing, layout and design, as well as content. My hope would be that everyone who is interested could be a participant. My fear is that the number of participants would become unwieldy. One of the beautiful things about groups like this listserver is the lack of rigid structure. At the same time, if we are going to collectively produce a web page that we can all be proud of and feel a part of, a certain amount of discipline is called for. (just ask the Heaven’s Gate folks, hehehehe.) It would be my hope that if we are able to form a web page committee that those people would be representatives for the group as a whole. I guess this is my petition to act a chairperson/coordinator for the web page committee. If this seems to any of you like all this is getting overly complex, I would certainly be willing to turn the whole shebang over to someone else but I’d like to give my idea a try and see if a group of people, most of whom, have never met face to face can collectively build an award winning web site. I’ve given this a lot of thought lately and I think we can do it. I think it is too big a task for any single individual, but I am convinced that we have the talent among us if want it and if we can all pull in the same direction. I KNOW we have the technology!!! --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Abbey Perez To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Progressive Spring Installation Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:34:19 -0500 Folks, I am writing this note to tell you that you could install = progressive springs under 3 hours without removing single body part from = the PC. Before you start have the following items on hand: a) Progressive springs 1145 b) 1Qt of 15W fork oil c) Two throw rugs to kneal on d) Buy 17MM allen wrench (Cost $13.50) e) 18 pipe wrench These are the steps that I took: 1. Take left panel under the steering bar followed by the right one. It = must be done this way because the way the panel interlace one under the = other. 2. Use #5 allen wrench and remove the front and back bolts holding the = disk brake covers. Use a phillips screw driver and remove the bolt = holding the rubber flap. Remove both covers. 3. Use #5 allen remove the four bolts holding the fender in place. = Carefully raise it above the top of the seals and move it toward the = front of the tire. 4. Use 12mm socket, loosen the horn mounting bolt. Do not remove horn = or bolt. 5. Remove phillips head screw holding speedo cable and undo from the = wire holder. 6. Use 9mm socket, remove the left fender mounting bracket by taking two = bolts off. 7. Remove left brake caliper. Use #5 allen for lower bolt and #6 allen = for top bolt. 8. Use 9mm socket, remove the right fender mounting brackte by taking = two bolts off. 9. Remove right brake caliper. Use 12mm socket for both bolts. 10. Loosen shaft bolt and remove bolt NOT shaft. 11. Loosen all shaft pinch bolts, do NOT remove and use 12mm socket. 12. Mark the upper tube where it meets the lower pinch bolt from the = tree. 13. #6 allen loosen the fourt lower pinch bolts from the tree, do NOT = remove. 14. Place small scissors jack under the engine and raise the front tire = about 1" from the floor. 15. Remove axle shaft and tire. 16. #6 allen grind off 1/2 of the lenght of the short end of the wrench. = Loosen the top binch bolts of the tree. YES, you have to be patient = because of there is very little room and you can not see very well. If you do not have enought leverage, get a 12" long 1/2" pipe and stick = on the long side of the allen wrench. 17. Remove both tubes. Be carefull that they do not hit the floor hard. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Abbey Perez To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: Replacing the Coolant Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:06:19 -0500 Folks, you could also replace the coolant under 20 minutes without = removing a single body panel. =20 Before you start, you need the following items. a) Shallow pan to put underneath the cycle. (Cut the lower 1/3 of a 5 = gallon plastic bucket) b) A siphoning hose and container. ( Get a 1/2 gallon juice bottle, = drill two holes on the cap, place 3ft lenght of 1/4" clear tube into = one hole just 1" above the bottom, place 1ft lenght of tubing on=20 the other hole just below the surface of the cap. c) One throw rug to kneal on d) Funnel This are the step you take: 1. Place the PC on its center stand. 2. Remove the right hand side glove compartment cover. 3. With a phillips screw driver, loosen the screw holding the coolant = cap from coming off by=20 accident. Do NOT remove the screw. Remove the radiation cap. 4. Pop open the overflow coolant container cap. 5. Use 9mm bock end combo wrench and loosen the lower coolant pump bolt = that is cituated next to the side stand pivot point and just behind the = cluster of overflow tubing. =20 6. Place pan under the bolt and drain all the coolant. 7. Take bolt off and remove copper washer. 8. Take copper washer and heat on your stove red hot and quench with = cold water immediately. The purpose is to get the washer to expand it = and reuse it.=20 9. Siphon the coolant from the overflow tank. Place 3ft long tube end = into it, put container on the floor, suck on the 1ft long tube to = create the syphon. One it starts flowing, stop sucking. The purpose = of the juice bottle is that you could siphon and not get the bad taste = in your mouth. Also, antifreese is very harmful. 10. Place the washer on the bolt, place the bolt back in place, tighten = it. Do NOT overtighten. 11. Place funnel into the radiatior, Fill with 50/50 solution of = antifreese and place cap back in place. 12. Tighten the phillips screw driver. 13. Fill overflow container with 50/50 solution 3/4" above the max line. = Reason, there are air pockets in the liquid in which they have to = displaced with antifreese. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:22:19 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: server sounds like Jason has the plan!! If he donates the server space and can get the INTERNIC thing happening, there are plenty of us who can co-ordinate the HTML stuff! Hell, that's what PAGEMILL is for :>) I think we've got a lot of elements already in place. Mark and Sandra have volunteered to help with page design...we have a handful of photoshop experts hangin on the page.. I like neills idea of a committe...how about wednesday night this week we all meet on line, either at the ICHAT place or an IRC channel somewhere??? -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. with SMTP (IPAD 1.13) id 4569400 ; Sat, 19 Apr 97 12:43:17 EST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 12:48:14 -0400 From: Scot Piper To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: new member Hello! I just subscribed to the PC800 group and here's my introduction. Scot Piper Midland, MI scotp1965@mdn.net 1984 Red Honda Shadow 500 - 17,600 miles. I graduated from high school in '84, so this bike is sentimental. The bike has a back rest and I added a Tracy Wild One tall red gradient windshield (17"wide x 18"tall). OK, so who cares about a Shadow (yeah, I know, there is a Shadow Riders Club on the web). Well, I really like the PC-800 and would like to hear from owners about their bikes and how they like them. I understand the PC-800 came out in '89 (in pearl white) and was not made in '91-93. I saw a leftover '95 ($6995)on the dealers floor last year, but it was black and I was interested in a red one. I asked about finding a leftover red '95 still in the crate, but the dealer never called me back. I like the looks of the '95 model, and am curious about changes between the years and if there are any special features one model year might have that another doesn't. I almost bought a '90 with 2400 miles for $4200 last summer, but this Shadow came along for $1200 and I couldn't let it go by. I'm also curious about the windshield height as a I hear a lot of talk about that. i.e. is the factory height too low and does it offer engouh protection? Also, what about stereos? Is that an option, or aftermarket? How about fuel economy and riding characteristics? Living in MI, we have a limited riding season, and don't see many PC's around here. But sure looks like a comfortable travel and light touring bike. I used to have a V-65 Magna and it was a great bike, but more power than I ever needed and limited storage space. How about riding 2-up, is the PC comfortable for 3-4 hour rides for 2 people? Well, lots of questions. I'm open to all comments and would love to receive any .jpg files people have of PC-800's. Thanks. Looking forward to meeting the PC-800 group and perhaps purchasing one of my own soon. Scot ---- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:24 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:51:26 +0000 From: BJ Strass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New convert looking for a PC Hello, My name is BJ and I live in Sacramento, CA. I have been swaying between buying a PC or a Concours to replace my BMW K100RT. After watching the the board here, and doing other research, I have definately decided on a PC. It sounds like it is exactly what I want. Now all I have to do is find one. Unfortunately a new one is out of the question. I would prefer an '89 as I like the lighter color (Sacramento's hot summers) but will consider any year/color I can afford. For the right bike I could travel up to a 250 mile radius of Sacramento. Any help in locating a PC would be greatly appreciated. Also advice regarding anything specific to a recently aquired used PC (other than the usual tuneup and fluid changes) would be appreciated too. BJStrass@worldnet.att.net 916/331-9317 BJ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: MickeyMatt@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA27268; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:55:19 -0400 (EDT) To: BJStrass@worldnet.att.net cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Looking for used PC How I found My used PC. It may or may not work for others... 1. Went to Nynex on-line (www.bigyellow.com) 2. Searched under Motorcycle/Motorscooters for Honda in NY and PA 3. Got a list of about 50 Dealers. 4. Got a map, saw which ones I was willing to drive to. 5. Got on the phone, asked who had what in used PC's. Usually all were willing to drop price over the phone when I said I was shopping around a several hundred mile radius. 6. Visited one shop with an 89 and 90, Dealer was a butt-head, and after waiting 20+ minutes for service was treated very poorly. 7. Left unhappy, looked at a 95 at another with a nicer salesperson (and 2 years' warranty left.) Paid more, left happy :-) -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:59:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: "PACIFIC COAST GROUP" Subject: PC800: Fw: copywriters of the world unite... Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:52:05 -0400 > a few gems: > > Include your Children when Baking Cookies > Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says > Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers > Safety Experts Say School Bus Passengers Should Be Belted > Drunk Gets Nine Months in Violin Case > > Survivor of Siamese Twins Joins Parents > Farmer Bill Dies in House > Iraqi Head Seeks Arms > Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus? > Stud Tires Out > > Prostitutes Appeal to Pope > Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over > Soviet Virgin Lands Short of Goal Again > British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands > > Lung Cancer in Women Mushrooms > Eye Drops off Shelf > Teacher Strikes Idle Kids > Reagan Wins on Budget, But More Lies Ahead > Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim > > Enraged Cow Injures Farmer with Ax > Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told > Miners Refuse to Work after Death > Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant > Stolen Painting Found by Tree > > Two Soviet Ships Collide, One Dies > Two Sisters Reunited after 18 Years in Checkout Counter > Killer Sentenced to Die for Second Time in 10 Years > Never Withhold Herpes Infection from Loved One > Drunken Drivers Paid $1000 in '84 > > War Dims Hope for Peace > If Strike isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While > Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures > Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide > Red Tape Holds Up New Bridge > > Deer Kill 17,000 > Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead > Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge > New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group > Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft > > Kids Make Nutritious Snacks > Chef Throws His Heart into Helping Feed Needy > Arson Suspect is Held in Massachusetts Fire > British Union Finds Dwarfs in Short Supply > Lansing Residents Can Drop Off Trees > > Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half > New Vaccine May Contain Rabies > Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing > Deaf College Opens Doors to Hearing > Air Head Fired > > Steals Clock, Faces Time > Prosecutor Releases Probe into Undersheriff > Old School Pillars are Replaced by Alumni > Bank Drive-in Window Blocked by Board > Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors > > well, they made me smile. > N -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:31:01 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: Barre Bull Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: from Neill !!!! sounds great!!! Jason has offered too..so hopefully we can have an online meeting wed night and hash it all out!! -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:47:36 -0700 (MST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rbailey@primenet.com (Randy D. Bailey) Subject: PC800: New PCer Thanks for the responses to my inquiry about the PC800 vs Concours. I decided since my primary requirement was for a daily commuter with less costly maintenance than I had been experiencing with my Concours, I would opt for the PC800. Just for the heck of it I checked the CycleTrader online site yesterday and did a query on PC800 and AZ. Three listings came up. The first two I had already called and they were sold. The third one had been entered online just a few hours earlier. I called the owner in Sun City (major retirement community) and he had been getting calls from people in other states, but I was the first from Arizona. I was on his doorstep at 8:30 this morning and about an hour later I was driving home one of the nicest looking '89 PCs I've seen: 10,000 miles, new tires (the old ones were weather checked), new battery and complete service record (the guy was really anal about maintenance on the bike). The bike is spotless. It is much cleaner and nicer looking than the '97 model I had been looking at for $9,000. I paid the retired gentleman $3,900 for the '89, which I believe is a fair price for a bike in virtually-new condition. I put about 110 miles on it today, solo and 2-up and find the handling a little vague compared to the Concours, and the brakes less effective, however, we ran it for several miles on I-10 at 85mph 2-up and it handled it okay. This bike is going to get a lot of hard use, 50 miles daily of mainly Interstate travel. I'll be very interested in how it holds up over time. I'll be changing the oil at 12K and switch it from Honda HP4 to Mobil 1 15-50. I would appreciate any comments on that oil choice from others. Also, I noted in the owners manual the air filter is due for replacement at 12K. Is this an owner task or something best left to the dealer? Also, for those list members in the Phoenix area: I would appreciate knowing if there's a shop in town that you would recommend for service work. Here's some vitals on me: Randy D. Bailey 4612 W. Jupiter Way Chandler, AZ 85226 (602) 940-9539 I'm director of Communications and Marketing for the College of Extended Education at Arizona State University (the nation's 4th largest university) in Tempe, Arizona. I'm 47 and have had a motorcycle license since I was 14. In my wasted youth I raced bikes--desert racing, motocross, and TT racing at Manzanita Raceway in Phoenix. I've always favored standards, but bought my first "fairing" bike two years ago when I purchased the Concours and found out I liked being out of the wind when I'm wearing a suit on workdays. I own: '86 Kawasaki Concours (for sale @ $2,200 OBO) '88 Honda Hawk GT (in showroom condition) '89 Honda Hawk GT (I've put 42,000 miles on this one) '85 Honda XR350 (a former Baja 500 race bike I converted to 'street legal' status) - I'm going to be selling this one, too, if you know anyone who wants a really unique dirt bike, great for jumping medians in heavy traffic and the like, have them call me. I'll sell it for $1,200 OBO which is a bargain. - Randy ============================================================== Randy D. Bailey rbailey@primenet.com R.D. Bailey Marketing & Communications Phone: (602) 940-9539 4612 W. Jupiter Way Fax: (602) 940-9539 Chandler, AZ USA 85226 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:13:28 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Newbie, HELP! Hello Everybody, I’ve been lurking in the background for the last week or so, waiting for the golden moment when I could tell you that I am Alan Taylor, and I have a shiny used 95 PC-800, that I named Midnight. Yep, today I traded my tired old 82 Silver Wing in and drove home Midnight home. Having waded through the archives till my eyes crossed, I was prepared for wind noise. I wasn’t expecting an experience where riding was like a motorcycle video game in the comfort of my living room until I crossed the 45 MPH threshold and felt like I’d wandered onto the set of twister. I’m 5’10” and the wind hit me from the neck up. I’d need a w/s at least 6 inches higher and 4 wider. The engine was another surprise. I expected it to be quiet at idle. I didn’t expect that I’d have to depend on the tach to shift. I’m in love with it, and other than a rifle w/s, and a cruise control, ( I’m still recovering from having my arm crushed a year ago.) I’ll probably leave it as is. I do have some questions for the members of the list. I didn’t get an owners manual with Midnight, so, although there are some excellent directions for a fork overhaul in the archive, I don’t know how to do some simple things like checking the oil (or even finding the dipstick). So if anyone can give me some pointers on the basics, it will be very much appreciated. Alan -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 08:05:34 -0400 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: "Randy D. Bailey" CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: New PCer Randy D. Bailey wrote: > I put about 110 miles on it today, solo and 2-up and find the handling a > little vague compared to the Concours, and the brakes less effective, > however, we ran it for several miles on I-10 at 85mph 2-up and it handled > it okay. Tire pressure and rear spring setting can make all the difference between vague and precise. I'm 175 lb and I run 35 psi front and 37 psi rear with spring preload set at maximum. With a little experimentation you'll discover that the handling of the PC exceptionally good. FWIW. I'm still on the OEM K555 Dunlops. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 05:24:48 -0700 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ka2wij@earthlink.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, HELP! Alan Taylor wrote: > > I’ve been lurking in the background for the last week or so, waiting > for the golden moment when I could tell you that I am Alan Taylor, > and I have a shiny used 95 PC-800, that I named Midnight. > Congratulations! > I’m 5’10” and the wind hit me from the neck up. I’d need a w/s at > least 6 inches higher and 4 wider. I'm 6' tall and have the 22" (27") Rifle windshield. It works great at fwy speed. If I want to tolerate the buffeting and cool off in the wind I can sit straight looking over the w/s about 4". If it's cold or I want quiet I just slump in the seat and the wind stops. Still I have ordered a 24" (29") Rifle. This will still give me 2" of lookover and I can sit more erect when hiding in the windshadow; better posture for long distance. I bought the bike new and had the stock windshield for one week before they could switch shields from my old '89 PC (part of the deal). The stock shield is waaaay tooooo small for fwy speeds. Lotsa noise. > > The engine was another surprise. I expected it to be quiet at idle. I > didn’t expect that I’d have to depend on the tach to shift. Daz what I like about the PC. The closest thing to it for quietness to it is the Wing. > > > I don’t know how to do > some simple things like checking the oil (or even finding the > dipstick). So if anyone can give me some pointers on the basics, it will be very > much appreciated. I still have the owners manual for the '89 PC. In comparing it to my '96 manual there is very little difference and none in those items you want to know. Give me you snail mail address and I'll send it to you. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Q Q~ Oceanside California /=/\/\ __ 1996 Pacific Coast 800 /===///===/ "Katie" /\ ==\\\PC800 1096 miles and counting \_/--'-'\_/ Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMA 540514 HSTA 7249 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:55:08 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1st Trip Hi Everyone, just completed my first motorbike holiday. Yep, I found tire pressure to be critical to handling and managed to get the bike set up right. I was in the first pack of riders and out of 17 bikes total, only 5 of us were way in front. Two ST's, one Honda Hurricane, one CBR400RR and me! The PC handles great in the corners and Rosalind(my girlfriend) had a big grin everytime I looked back to see how she was handling the twisties. I also managed to impress one of the ST owners with the way the bike handles.Yep, I'm happy with the cornering ability. But I've got a strange metallic rattling sound when I get on the highway. I'm in 5th gear and wind the revs up to 5500+ and then a rattling sound slowly sets in. The engine continues to pull with no drop in power, but the rattling sound worries me. So I stop on the shoulder of the highway to try and figure out the problem. IT RATTLES AT IDLE! (Great, now what have I done?.....) So I leave the bike in neutral, rev it up to 3000.....the rattling fades away. Get back onto the highway and after 15 minutes at 5500 revs....rattles some more. I got home, the bike is just as responsive as ever. In stop / start riding, there's no rattling but I'm sure if I did high speed cruising again, it'll come back. But how do I stop the rattling? At idle, it sounds like a mechanical sewing machine you power with your feet. Is it the tappets? Valve clearance? By the way, in response to someone who asked earlier, our PC's generate 55 hp with a torque curve which is super flat. Yu Seung -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA05554; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 17:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 17:59:55 -0400 (EDT) To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Sunday Ride in IL Hi Gang, Well I can't figure it out but on the best Sunday so far, only Abbey Perez and I are there for the ride. We left at about 10:30 AM and rode the "Circle the Lake" route through Northern IN and around into Southern MI. Ate lunch at Redemaks in New Buffalo, MI and headed back. A couple of hundred miles. Very nice day and company. Sorry more of you couldn't make it. The next ride will be Sunday, May 4th at 10AM from Downers Grove Honda. The idea is to do the rides every other weekend. So, put it on your calanders, for Sunday, May 4th. Ciao, Z 773-235-0933 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 17:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Sun, 20 Apr 1997 16:55:43 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: hmkvbw@rmci.net (Harry Kellam) Subject: PC800: Tire replacement for 90 PC800 Would someone tell me the best replacement for OEM tires? I have Dunlop's now. 9378 miles on 90 PC800. Are the ML2 Mitzlers better than the OEM Dunlop's? Best place to get tire deals. What about Avon tires. I have discussed with Michlin and they don't make a tire forr the PC. One more question. Could I or should I replace the front tire because of sidewall cracks with a Dunlop or change all tire at the same time? Thanks, HK Harry Kellam 90 PC800 Live in western VA close to Blue Ridge Parkway. 540-828-2045 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:12:46 -0500 From: Jeff Hopkins To: PC800 Group Subject: PC800: '95 PC800 For Sale I haven't sold my '95 PC800 yet so I'm dropping the price to the group first. It has 3800 miles, like brand new, back rest added. Will take $5500. 405-447-6213 or hopkinsj@telepath.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: campbell@asiatech.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:11:03 +0800 (HKT) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: New Web page Folks, Few of you will know me (I often lurk here, but rarely contribute ... my interest far surpasses my knowledge of most things discussed here). The discussions about the new Web page have interested me greatly. I'm glad there's so much interest in getting one up. It's essential, especially for us fairly new PC owners. I bought mine about three months ago after seeking and receiving a great deal of advice form several people on this list. And I'm absolutely overjoyed with it. Anyhow, following on Neill's suggestion for a committee, I'd like to volunteer my services for a few areas. I run an Internet magazine (yup, a real print one ... if you're interested you can check out our site at www.dataphile.com.hk) over in Hong Kong, and we're pretty tight with several ISPs here. Just in case it's needed, there's quite a bit of server space over here that can be used. Either way, I'd like to offer to mirror the site on our server, if nothing else to allow people like myself in Asia to access it faster. Since we have a fairly good editorial team, I can channel some of these resources into doing some writing and editing work on the site. We also have Web page designers on staff, so that's another resource you can pick on if you need to. I'll make sure it's all gratis. I'd just like to see a good site come out of this. I'm not much good at being part of committees, but I'm happy enough to contribute towards the building and maintenance of the site once the committee decides what it wants. Yours to use. Larry. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:07:25 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: PC800 Mail List Subject: Re: PC800: Tire replacement for 90 PC800 --------------FB00792A419AAB77C95FF2B4 mailbox:/C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/roger/mail/Inbox?id=19970421025611687.AAA58@sql.rmci.net&number=2579197&part=1.2 --------------FB00792A419AAB77C95FF2B4 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:56:00 -0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:56:19 -0400 From: Roger Prince To: Harry Kellam Subject: Re: PC800: Tire replacement for 90 PC800 Harry, my suggestion is a set of K177s. Check prices at Competition Accessories and Chaparral, both nat'l mailorder outfits (be sure to check shipping chgs). Then see what the local guys can do for you if that's the way you want to go. Some places charge less for mtg/balance if they sell the tires. But I'd do them both. You have very few choices of which tires if you stay with the correct sizes. I'm assuming the "OEMs" you have are K555s. But I'd replace both since the tires are pretty old . Roger Prince Harry Kellam wrote: > Would someone tell me the best replacement for OEM tires? I have > Dunlop's > now. 9378 miles on 90 PC800. Are the ML2 Mitzlers better than the > OEM > Dunlop's? Best place to get tire deals. What about Avon tires. I > have > discussed with Michlin and they don't make a tire forr the PC. > > One more question. Could I or should I replace the front tire > because of > sidewall cracks with a Dunlop or change all tire at the same time? > Thanks, HK > > --------------FB00792A419AAB77C95FF2B4-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:36:28 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: PC800: pc800.org domain name Hi everyone. I have seen a few posts here form people who like the idea of the pc800.org domain so much that they are willing to contribute some cash to the list. Some people have even said they would put in "20 bucks". This is great, and will only require that 5 people send a donation. Well, I am also interested in seeing the domain added, but would like to put a twist on my donation, to make sure the domain name lasts. I will donate $5.00 to the domain (I know, you're all thinking 'big deal') . Here's where my donation is different. I will donate $5.00 every year, for as long as I am part of this list. So..many of you out there probably weren't going to contribute $20.00 . However, everyone here can skip a lunch one day, and then send that 5 bucks to whomever orders the domain name from Internic. If the person who gathers the donations has too much, put the cash aside in a savings account, and then use it when needed at renewal time. I believe that there are alot of talented individuals on this list who can do the HTML, CGI scripting, graphics, scanning, etc. to make this a really cool site. For the rest of us who don't have time and/or talent to donate, let's send the 5 bucks and make sure what little cash is needed gets raised to make this a cool site for many years to come ! These are just my personal thoughts. if you agree, great...If you don't, no problems...and if I have stepped on someones toes (the committee?) saying this, then I apologize. It was not the intent. fsl Francois Saint Laurent Ottawa, Canada '95 PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:37:00 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: Barre Bull Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: from Neill !!!! Let's shoot for a WED night meeting...say 7pm PST? Howabout that ICHAT place Neill talked about?? as per Neill.... If you want to check it out, go to: http://www.extremeterrain.com:4080 Click on "I'm new here" and download the ichat plug-in for your browser. Install the plug-in. we could create a PC800 room... -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: campbell@asiatech.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:45:33 +0800 (HKT) To: Francois Saint Laurent , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: pc800.org domain name I think this is a cracking good idea. When the committee's ready, let me know where to send my money. BTW, has anyone actually started the registration process yet? If not, I can handle it through the ISP side of our business. Is there an official PC800 club or something we can register it to, rather than to an individual? Larry. > Hi everyone. > > I have seen a few posts here form people who like the idea of the pc800.org > domain so much that they are willing to contribute some cash to the list. > Some people have even said they would put in "20 bucks". This is great, > and will only require that 5 people send a donation. > > Well, I am also interested in seeing the domain added, but would like to > put a twist on my donation, to make sure the domain name lasts. I will > donate $5.00 to the domain (I know, you're all thinking 'big deal') . > Here's where my donation is different. I will donate $5.00 every year, for > as long as I am part of this list. So..many of you out there probably > weren't going to contribute $20.00 . However, everyone here can skip a > lunch one day, and then send that 5 bucks to whomever orders the domain > name from Internic. If the person who gathers the donations has too much, > put the cash aside in a savings account, and then use it when needed at > renewal time. > > I believe that there are alot of talented individuals on this list who can > do the HTML, CGI scripting, graphics, scanning, etc. to make this a really > cool site. For the rest of us who don't have time and/or talent to donate, > let's send the 5 bucks and make sure what little cash is needed gets raised > to make this a cool site for many years to come ! > > These are just my personal thoughts. if you agree, great...If you don't, no > problems...and if I have stepped on someones toes (the committee?) saying > this, then I apologize. It was not the intent. > > fsl > > > > Francois Saint Laurent > Ottawa, Canada > > '95 PC800 > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: pc800.org domain name From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 Apr 1997 01:13:24 -0500 Lines: 25 >>>>> "c" == campbell writes: c> I think this is a cracking good idea. When the committee's ready, let me c> know where to send my money. I will let everyone know once I have completed my job change and know where my servers will be (there's a good chance that I will continue to maintain all of the machines here once I switch jobs). I will know in a couple of days. c> BTW, has anyone actually started the registration process yet? Yes, I have. InterNIC is somewhat slow, though, and I don't expect to hear anything for a bit. c> Is there an official PC800 club or something we can register it to, c> rather than to an individual? I was figuring that I'd register it myself, since I'm doing the mailing list and server space and such. I now state publicly that I do not intend to monopolize on the name, and that I will give it up if a suitable group comes along who would be better served by the name as long as giving up the name does not compromise the running of the mailing list and web services. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Steve Gross" To: "pc800" Subject: Re: PC800: from Neill !!!! Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:17:18 -0700 Hey! I just noticed this... Which of you is the purebreed? I'm tellin' Mom.... ---------- > > Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC > http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Pacific Coast" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Web page committee meeting Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 03:52:34 PDT Unfortunately, I have a home owner's association meeting Wednesday night. Can we shoot for Thursday night (4/24) at 7:00pm West Coast time instead? Have any of you scoped out the chat site yet? There is a main room that you are initially placed in (Chatting Ground). The screen is divided into 2 frames. If you scroll down the upper frame there is a link to a site map. If you click on that, the upper frame will be replaced by one listing the rooms at that chat site. I suggest we meet in the room named "Extreme Highway". The use of a private room might be tricky for our first time. I can give a quickie intro to the features and functions of ichat. >Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:22:19 -0800 >From: Dave Gross >To: Jason L Tibbitts III >Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: PC800: server > >sounds like Jason has the plan!! If he donates the server space and can >get the INTERNIC thing happening, there are plenty of us who can >co-ordinate the HTML stuff! Hell, that's what PAGEMILL is for :>) > >I think we've got a lot of elements already in place. Mark and Sandra >have volunteered to help with page design...we have a handful of >photoshop experts hangin on the page.. > >I like neills idea of a committe...how about wednesday night this week >we all meet on line, either at the ICHAT place or an IRC channel >somewhere??? > > > >-- > >Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC >http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:09:46 -0400 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: PC800: Concours vs PC800 To: PC800 List Hi, Randy. There are at least two list members that have direct, extended PC and Concours riding experience who will doubtless give you more info. My $.02 is based on a single test ride of each bike (both were used)and my two-up touring experience (345 pounds plus luggage) on the PC. Suspension/chassis for two-up - no problem. 85mph on Interstate, two-up - no problem (and no arm-numbing vibration!!!) fairly steep grades, elevations up to 9,100 feet, two-up - no problem for leisurely (ie. speed limit and slightly above) touring. Uphill passing - you'll probably have to downshift a notch or two. Corner carving, uphill, two-up - this will push the PC's limits, but in my case, my passenger's limits are MUCH lower than the PC's, so this is not an issue. relative performance - despite the above, there's no doubt that, compared to a Concours, the PC is "way-down" on power. The PC has great handling, and a very willing engine that doesn't complain up to redline. I think it's a lot of fun in the twisties. But the Concours is a SPORT bike that just happens to have a fairing and luggage; the PC traces its engine lineage to the laid-back Shadow cruiser. My feeling in riding the two is best summed up like this: the PC is WILLING to be revved-high and ridden fast - the Concours DEMANDS that you do so. That visceral rush you get when the Connie tops 8K or so and the whole machine just LEAPS forward - well, the PC jus' don' do dat. > I really like the PC800 style, color, ease of maintenance . . . I would add "absolute lack of vibration" It's almost eerily smooth and quiet. In deciding between the PC and Concours, this was a major factor for me. I could just picture myself cursing the Concours as I droned on down the superslab and my arms turned to jelly. (Alright - I'm a WIMP!). Steve -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:27:15 -0300 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: PC800: wanted in northeast Howdy. My buddy would like to buy a PC, if anyone knows of one available in the Northeast or Atlantic Canada please let me know. -- Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:25:39 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: Newbie, HELP! ** Reply to note from Alan Taylor Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:13:28 -0700 > I don t know how to do some > simple things like checking the oil (or even finding the dipstick). Right side, behind the small panel above the driver's footpeg. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:26:24 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: PC800: pc800.org domain name ** Reply to note from Francois Saint Laurent Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:36:28 -0400 > I have seen a few posts here form people who like the idea of the pc800.org > domain so much that they are willing to contribute some cash to the list. > Some people have even said they would put in "20 bucks". I agree that a new web site is a fine idea, but I'm puzzled about the rush to establish the pc800.org domain. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we go ahead with it, all we get is a web site and archives at www.pc800.org instead of www.somethingorother.com/pc800. We don't get personal e-mail accounts @pc800.org, we don't get free Internet access, we don't become young and good looking. So what advantage does having "our" own domain convey, other than providing the web site with a location that is easier to remember, and that could perhaps be found by someone just guessing that it exists? The reason I ask is that, since the domain name 1) requires an ongoing expenditure of cash and 2) once procured, has some value that could exceed the actual cash paid (i.e. equity, goodwill, etc.), the question of ownership of the domain could become a legally thorny issue. As it stands now, we are just a loose-knit bunch of guys (and gals) who have a common interest in a certain motorcycle. Are those of us who contribute to setting up the domain its owners? And the rest of us aren't? Are we heading towards forming a corporation, with bylaws, membership rules, dues, etc.? Even if things don't go that far, having paid money, people tend to want things done their way, and get nasty if they aren't. Maybe I'm just an old pessimist, but I can imagine this domain name business being the start of a lot of unpleasantness, fights, schisms, and so forth. And for what? What do we get for having a domain name? Nothing significant that I can see. So why bother? By keeping money and "property" with potential value out of our relationship, we will remain informal, relatively anarchistic (in the most positive sense), and simple. But, as Dennis Miller says, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:58:00 -0700 From: Alan Taylor To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Thanks! --------------413F5113139A -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alan Taylor, Long Beach, CA 95 PC 800 “Midnight” One up is fun, Two up is better, Heads up always ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------413F5113139A To the group, I want to thank everyone for their kind assistance. I found the dipstick with no trouble. I’ll be down to my Honda dealer bright and early for an owners manual. (I bought Midnight from a Suzuki dealer) I’ve already ordered the shop manual, common service manual and Hondaline backrest from Cycle Design. When Rifle opens, I’m going to order the 24” windshield. I’ll also be replacing the stock headlight bulb with one of the brighter ones. I want to spend some more time riding in different conditions before I make a decision on the progressive springs. So my week will largely go to waiting for UPS when I’d much rather be out on Midnight cruising the highway they named after it. Ah well, such is life. Thanks again to everyone. Alan --------------413F5113139A-- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'James Hyder'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: pc800.org domain name Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:08:39 -0700 I think that the idea was just to make it easier for others that are interested to find and join us. I don't think anyone wants to own anything or form any type of corporation from this. I get the feeling that the people who offered up the $20 were doing so in good nature just to participate. I definitely would have to agree with you on your point that you are being a pessimist on this one. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer Email: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Corporate Web: http://www.wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: James Hyder [SMTP:jhyder@erols.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 1997 3:26 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: pc800.org domain name I agree that a new web site is a fine idea, but I'm puzzled about the rush to establish the pc800.org domain. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we go ahead with it, all we get is a web site and archives at www.pc800.org instead of www.somethingorother.com/pc800. We don't get personal e-mail accounts @pc800.org, we don't get free Internet access, we don't become young and good looking. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, sen