********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:36:06 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: Room for one more? Hello everyone! I've just joined this list, so here are the basic stats. Name: Francois Saint Laurent Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Email: fsl@borgconsulting.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1995 Bought Used/New: Used Modifications made to bike: Bought with Givi rack and top case, and I'm looking seriously at a Rifle shield and the Tenzo lights. Since this is my first time posting, I'll tell the whole story of how I got here as a new PC800 owner. I promise to keep my messages short in the future! I have been riding motorcycles on and off for over 15 years. I haven't had a motorcycle full time for the last 5 or so years, but have driven occasionally over those years. About a year ago, I decided to get a motorcycle again. I have been shopping around, humming and hawwing, and almost bought a BMWR1100RT, but then that glazed look in my eyes finally cleared up and I got a really good look at the price tag, and reality hit. Some say it is a better bike, but can it be THAT much better?! I paid that for my last car! I have always loved the look of the PC800, but up here in Canada, they haven't been available since 1992 or so. I looked into importing a US 97 model, but I'm not keen on the red. (Personal tastes only, no offense to current 96 and 97 owners). I was at the motorcycle show in NYC on the Friday night, and met a dealer at the show who was working the Honda booth. As it turns out, he had a 95 with less than 500 miles on the odometer, and at least a year of warranty remaining. I took a drive out to his Long Island shop and bought it that day! The bike was spotless and the dealer was excellent. Since I was obviously very interested, he graciously allowed me to take it for a test ride. I loved it! I am thrilled to have bought this bike, and I can't wait for the snow to melt so I can start racking up those miles! I love the low maintenance aspect of the PC800, since I am at that stage in my life where I want to use my limited recreational time riding a motorcycle, not fixing, tuning, adjusting, reparing and cleaning. Thanks to all of the members of this list for providing so much valuable information in the past. I just spent the last 3 hours reading through the archives! I hope that some day I, too, can contribute something of value to this list. Before I go, I'd love to hear from any other Canadian owners on this list. Are there any out there? Happy motoring everyone! fsl Francois Saint Laurent '95 black -> 500 miles and holding 'till the snow melts (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:48:53 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:48:53 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: Airfilter solution Hi guys! I finally found the archive search thing, and there does not seem to be a mention of air filter CLEANING. Here, there is a firm whose business is cleaning the giant diesel truck air filters, when I take them my Helix and PC filters, they return like new the next day, and the filter is SO small next to the rest in the shop they are truely embarrased to charge me $5! I wonder if such a solution is possible in the USA? Ron in Brisbane. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 09:57:24 +0000 From: Gary Wilson To: pacific coast list Subject: pegs has anyone added pegs to their road guides. this would mean, i presume, removal of the fairing protectors. the purpose of this modification would be to extend the pegs for more comfort in rider foot placement. gary. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Airfilter solution From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 01 Mar 1997 15:08:23 -0600 Lines: 12 >>>>> "RG" == Ronald Grant writes: RG> I finally found the archive search thing, and there does not seem to be RG> a mention of air filter CLEANING. That's a pretty good idea. Given that the PC filters are so expensive, I think I'll try to find a company near me that does this. Of course, the best solution would be to convince K&N to just go ahead and produce one of their cleanable filters for the PC. I thought they were going to do so, but I don't remember hearing the outcome. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA00394 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 21:01:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 21:01:53 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: To all you PCers Hi Gang! This is just one short e-mail message that I'd like to post, and ask that no one respond to it on the list server. It has come about that I've found out that we have a number of practicing Christians in the PC group. I happen to be an Associate Pastor of a Baptist Church. I would like to see if some of you out there would be interested in starting an e-mail prayer request program. Simply contact me, and I'll tell you about it. This is a non-denominational sort of thing. We will not, I promise, use the list server for this. And to those of you that don't share the Christian faith, I apologize for taking up some of your virtual mailbox space. Thanks, all! This is the only public announcement you'll ever see about this. Sincerely, Chris Russell 1996 Honda PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:12:02 +0100 (MET) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Kenwood radio This is what I recieved, maybe you could help this gentleman, --------------------original message------------------------------------ Gentlemen, I am looking for a Kenwood (or Honda/Kenwood) radio which measures about: 1"H. x 3"W. x 5"Deep. Please respond to cumins@attmail.com or +1-201-790-1000 or 1-800-790-1000. I am not a dealer. Regards, Edward Cumins ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gerard Diepeveen, PCN --------------------------------00--------------------- Gerard Diepeveen '89 White Pacific Coast Netherlands E-Mail: pcn@dsv.nl or gerard@dsv.nl O-PC-O:-) "May the Pacific Coast be with you" Visit the Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:13:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:13:52 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: hot grips This message is mostly for Bryce Ulrich & Juan Goula. I feel like you guys really know a lot about PC's. So let me ask two Renaissance Men about this......... I finally got around to installlng the Hot Grips on my '94 PC. I spliced into the running lights/turn signals . I checked with my voltmeter to see if all connections were getting juice......so far okay. (with me this far?) (By the way, I remember Juan saying that he didn't use the resistor). So I went for a quick ride ( do you think these grips would warm up in a half hour)? Well they didn"t. I'm about ready to pull my f-----hair out!!!! I''m in New Jersey and like to ride in winter weather but my hands really get cold, which is the reason I bought theses grips in the first place. Any thoughts you can me would be really appreciated. Thanks, Al in Trenton NJ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'agray@denver.net'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Excel 97 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:36:39 -0800 You know that this could be a big FINE since it is illegal. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer rjackson@wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Alexander D. Gray [SMTP:agray@denver.net] Sent: Friday, February 28, 1997 3:33 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Excel 97 Hello gang, I know that what I am about to propose is not related to our first love (the PC800) but it is related to our second love (the pc your on). I have recently purchased the program Excel 97 (upgrade version) and would like to offer it to my fellow PC'ers. If anyone would like to have the upgrade (then mail it back) I would be glad to mail it to them. Also if anyone had the the Word 97 upgrade I would like to have it. I have Work 6.0 You know this could be a great "share group" for programs:) -- Alexander D. Gray in Denver, Colorado Texas Tech University.......Southern Methodist University Pictures of me and my 94 Honda Pacific Coast are at http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/pictures.htm ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:03:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael D. Bowman" To: PC 800 Owners Hello, I am interested in joining the Pc 800 owners E-mail subscription list. My name is Mike Bowman, and I am from Columbia county, Pennsylvania. I have an 87 Pacific Coast that I bought Last year used with 19,000 miles on it. I put asnother 15,000 on it since then mainly on a Florida Keys trip, and two Canadian trips. I have changed the plugs, air filter, fuel filter, anti-freeze, cluth fluid, brake fluid, and that is the only maintainance done to it beside regular engine and final drive oil changes. (I changed the plugs and air filter when it was purchased also). I have been putting the Dunlap tires on it and was wondering if the Metzler tires were any different (better). Also, I was wondering if there may be any common problems to watch out for as the mileage increases, and any further maintainance that should be performed. Also, if anyone knows where I can get a right mirror housing and right disk cover cheap, I would like to know. Does anyone know the average life expectancy of the PC 800 engine? Thanks, Mike ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 11:00:28 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Fuel Filter To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Wheres the fuel filter on a 95? Is there more than one? Chris Klass 95 PC800 11,000 miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mdbowman@planetx.bloomu.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 11:25:59 EST On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:03:26 -0500 (EST) "Michael D. Bowman" writes: >I have an 87 Pacific Coast that I bought Last year Hang on to it Mike! Its the only one in existence! Just kidding - '89 was the first year for the PC. > used with 19,000 miles on it. I put asnother 15,000 on it since then mainly on a >Florida Keys >trip, and two Canadian trips. I have changed the plugs, air filter, >fuel >filter, anti-freeze, cluth fluid, brake fluid, and that is the only >maintainance done to it beside regular engine and final drive oil >changes. (I changed the plugs and air filter when it was purchased >also). sounds as if you've got it pretty well covered, Mike. Do you have the owner's manual? If so, follow it and you'll be OK. If not, let me know and I'll copy the maintenance schedule pages for you. I have been putting the Dunlap tires on it and was wondering if the >Metzler tires were any different (better). There is tons of stuff in the archives on tires - check it out. I've got 66K on my '90, have used only Dunlops, and I've been satisfied. However, I do not ride hard. > Also, I was wondering if >there >may be any common problems to watch out for as the mileage increases, Stator failure on the '89s - lots of stuff on that too in the archives. Does anyone know the average life expectancy of the PC >800 >engine? Thanks, Mike No! Never knew of one to die! Richard, San Diego ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 12:27:11 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Fuel Filter CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > > Wheres the fuel filter on a 95? Is there more than one? Open trunk while standing on left side of bike. Look for the fuel coupling coming from the gas tank. It leads to the fuel pump and filter. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 09:56:19 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: John LaFreniere Subject: PC for sale FEI- I saw a '94 PC for sale at Kolbe Cycles in Woodland Hills, California. Mostly stock, passenger backrest, 4800 miles, $4700. It looked good, but it did have a few scratches, like where your foot might hit the trunk while dismounting. I didn't see any cracked plastic. John John LaFreniere http://john.csun.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 15:42:58 -0800 From: Robert Gohl To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Hello there.... Hi there guys and gals. I just joined this email group to become more informed on PC's the bike that is. I bought a PC about two years ago, It was technicly totaled mostly body damage. So after a quick trip to my local Honda shop and a truck full of parts later I now have a nice PC. In this process I think the dealer lost my credit card slip because to this day I still havent seen a charge for the parts. :) My gain huh! Well to tell ya a little about myself Im a single 24 year old who loves bikes. My PC is a 89 and white with no mods yet but plan on a bunch. My first would be a sterio with driver passenger communication any suggestions? Second would be a trailer and hitch. Ive gone to the PC800 web page on AOL and seen some nice pictures of hitches and trailers. I would appreciate any suggestions and or advice on where and what to look for. Third is a new paint job. Im thinking of teal green or something original for PC's I forgot to tell you my name......Bob Gohl and I live in Seattle Washington. Well enought for now so I look forward to reading your messages. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:43:09, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Oil Plug Magnet This may be an obvious item to 99% of you old time bikers out there but it was new one for a newbie like me. While performing my 2nd oil change on my 96 PC, I noticed that the Oil Drain Plug had a magnetized insert, to capture any stray shavings that weren't eaten up by the oil filter. Just another example of the high quality built into our favorite bike! (by the way there were no metal shavings, only the normal grit on the magnet.) ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Nighthawk 4 sale From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 22:24:29 EST Seen in todays St. Paul, Mn Pioneer Press: 1984 Honda Nighthawk, Good shape, Value $2,000 first $1,000 takes. 612-407-9492/612-791-9130. Mike Larson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Akoell@aol.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: hot grips Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:27:40 -0800 They definately aren't working. You should feel heat within 30 seconds and a great deal of heat in a couple of minutes. I was mistake before -- I don't have the "Hot Grips" product. It's something similar though and has neoprene foam as the outer layer. As for the resistor, I didn't bother either. On/Off is sufficient control for me and it's a rare day I cycle the switch during a ride. It's either on/off for the duration. Tests: --------------- Check to see if the circuit is complete (no resistance) on the grip side of the switch (juice flows throught the switch). Switch should be on the Pos. wiring BTW. Check that the current is 12+ volts AFTER passing through the switch. Put the meter on the side of the circuit closes to the grip. Check the resistance. I'd expect the grips to have some major resistance but better than nothing (juice flows unimpeded) and less than 100% resistance (no juice flowing). Resistance makes the heat. Do these testson both grips if you can. There must be some sort of splice that seperates wires to run to each grip. Hopefully it's just wrapped in tape and the solder splices can be visually checked and probed with for resistance. This would be an easy place the factory to screw up and leave you frustrated. I suppose polarity could come make a difference (though I doubt it) so it's worth looking into as well. Were the Hot Grips marked in any way for polarity? On the bike side, if memory serves me right, the turn signals use a green wire for the neg. ground and blue or brown for the pos. If you get this message Monday evening feel free to call me at home -- 206-823-6923. It's 7:30p pacific time now and I'm leaving for home shortly. Too late for you I'm sure but just maybe you'll be surfing late... \"/ Tomorrow it's 10a-7p at work, 206-703-0558, and I'll be home by 8pm. -bryceu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:15:03 -0500 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: Room for one more? To: PC800 List Message text written by Francois Saint Laurent >Before I go, I'd love to hear from any other Canadian owners on this list. Are there any out there? < Uhh, sort of. Does an ex-Torontonian refugee to California count? Welcome aboard Francois! Say hello to Parliament Hill for me! Steve Schibuola Toron . . . er . . . Huntington Beach, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'cklass@attmail.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Fuel Filter Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:51:38 -0800 Kneel down on the left side of the bike with your eyes about where the trunk hinges. Open the trunk and you'll find it below the hinge mounted on the back side of a metal bracket. A rubber wrap holds it in place. Be sure to pinch the hoses on both sides before removing or you'll be sorry. \"/ -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cklass@attmail.com [SMTP:cklass@attmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 1997 3:00 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fuel Filter Wheres the fuel filter on a 95? Is there more than one? Chris Klass 95 PC800 11,000 miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:58:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:58:17 -0500 (EST) To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Saint Louis Motorcycle Show. Is anyone going to the Saint Louis Motorcycle Show? If the weather permits, I plan to ride over from Kansas City the morning of the 15th. One other guy is going with me. He is riding a Night Hawk. We plan to spend the night, and return Sunday afternoon. Bernie ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:16:08 -0800 (PST) From: Johan Lai To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hello there.... Welcome to the PC family Bob! You made the right choice and came to the right place for everything you ever wanted to know about your PC. There has been much traffic in the past about radio options and installation. Browse the archive first and see if you find what you're looking for. Then if you need more details, check w/ the members individually that have done the mod you're after. If you still have questions after that, chances are there are others on the list with the same question so post away to the mailing list. Can't help you with the trailer. I'm still looking for a solution myself. As for a new paint job, people will correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm the only one who repainted the whole thing (in the US that is). I had my PC for 2 years and collected quite a bit of scratches from daily commuting. There are approx 35-40 pieces total if I remember correctly (includes disassembly of all panels such as the wheel covers). It cost me about $400 because the auto shop had to work with so many pieces. But from what I heard, it's still a good deal (at least here in So. Calif.). I've heard of paint jobs costing upwards of $600. Before you go taking all the parts off again, make sure you have the PC service manual that tells you exactly where each piece goes and in what order. The color? I chose an unimpressive white that is a little lighter than the original pearl. I didn't want to be too radical, but different enough to be distinguished from stock. Hope that helps. I'll be happy to answer any other questions about the paint job that you may have. Cheers, Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Robert Gohl wrote: > Hi there guys and gals. I just joined this email group to become more > informed on PC's the bike that is. > I bought a PC about two years ago, It was technicly totaled mostly body > damage. So after a quick trip to my local Honda shop and a truck full of > parts later I now have a nice PC. In this process I think the dealer > lost my credit card slip because to this day I still havent seen a > charge for the parts. :) My gain huh! Well to tell ya a little about > myself Im a single 24 year old who loves bikes. My PC is a 89 and white > with no mods yet but plan on a bunch. > My first would be a sterio with driver passenger communication any > suggestions? > > Second would be a trailer and hitch. Ive gone to the PC800 web page on > AOL and seen some nice pictures of hitches and trailers. I would > appreciate any suggestions and or advice on where and what to look for. > > Third is a new paint job. Im thinking of teal green or something > original for PC's > > I forgot to tell you my name......Bob Gohl and I live in Seattle > Washington. > > Well enought for now so I look forward to reading your messages. Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:56:32 CST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:06:44 -0800 From: Dave Gross Subject: paint job/body work To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Reply-to: dkgross@halcyon.com so..I'm wondering...now that a good chunk of the silvery stuff on my '89 is getting scratched and peeling some places, how do you think it would look if I replaced all the bottom parts with the shiny Black bottoms that come on the '96 Red model (not the icky flat black on the '97). might be interesting, if not TOOOO expensive :>) tires come in tommorow..wheeeeeeeeeeee... go for a ride?? -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:36:17 CST by mcfeely.interaccess.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id GAA09877; Tue, 04 Mar 1997 06:36:00 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 06:37:23 -0600 From: aperez Subject: Re: Hello there.... To: Robert Gohl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Robert Gohl wrote: > > Hi there guys and gals. I just joined this email group to become more > informed on PC's the bike that is. > I bought a PC about two years ago, It was technicly totaled mostly body > damage. So after a quick trip to my local Honda shop and a truck full of > parts later I now have a nice PC. In this process I think the dealer > lost my credit card slip because to this day I still havent seen a > charge for the parts. :) My gain huh! Well to tell ya a little about > myself Im a single 24 year old who loves bikes. My PC is a 89 and white > with no mods yet but plan on a bunch. > My first would be a sterio with driver passenger communication any > suggestions? > > Second would be a trailer and hitch. Ive gone to the PC800 web page on > AOL and seen some nice pictures of hitches and trailers. I would > appreciate any suggestions and or advice on where and what to look for. > > Third is a new paint job. Im thinking of teal green or something > original for PC's > > I forgot to tell you my name......Bob Gohl and I live in Seattle > Washington. > > Well enought for now so I look forward to reading your messages. > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu Bob, welcome to web page that only talks, thinks and breaths PCs Abbey (37 years riding iron horses in CHITOWN) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:35:23 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: RE: hot grips At 19:27 3/3/97 -0800, Bryceu wrote: >They definately aren't working. You should feel heat within 30 seconds >and a great deal of heat in a couple of minutes. > >I was mistake before -- I don't have the "Hot Grips" product. It's >something similar though and has neoprene foam as the outer layer. >As for the resistor, I didn't bother either. On/Off is sufficient >control for me and it's a rare day I cycle the switch during a ride. >It's either on/off for the duration. I agree. You should fell heat almost immediately. And as far as the resistor, your nerve endings are by far a superior thermostat. I just made sure the switch is a a spot where I don't even have to think about it to reach and turn it on/off. >I suppose polarity could come make a difference (though I doubt it) so >it's worth looking into as well. Were the Hot Grips marked in any way >for polarity? On the bike side, if memory serves me right, the turn >signals use a green wire for the neg. ground and blue or brown for the >pos. Polarity on the grips makes no difference. It is just a (long) loop of wire. The turn signal splicing intrigues me. If you do it that way, do you not get intermitent heating? ;-) One thing you should check is that you didn't cut the heating element when opening the end of the grip to accept the bar-end weight (if you did this). There is not much clearance to play with and an errant hole cutter or blade will ruin your grip in the blink of an eye. Hope this idn't happen. I would take advantage of the powertaps that Honda so thoughtfully provided. No splicing necessary. Just make sure you use the switched side, or you might come back to a dead battery (like my wife did on her bike one time). Good luck! Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pc800@sina.hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:27:40 CST by jarvis.ims.alaska.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17446 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:21:21 -0900 (AKST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:21:21 -0900 (AKST) From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: hot grips To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 01:42 PM 3/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >Juan, which power taps are you referring to? The accessory connector >back by the battery? Roger, Yep, that's the one, snuggled up to the stater relay/fuse. There are three leads: Ground (-), Switched Power (+), Continuos Power(+). Switched power is cut off by the ignition switch. These were placed there to hook up the now non-existent radio and the trunk light kit. Anybody check on a '96 and a '97 to see if these taps are still there? With all the de-contenting Honda did to the '97 I wouldn't be surprised if these went the way of the do.. er, the self cancelling signals. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:15:14 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:15:14 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: Trip to USA. Gentlemen/ Ladies: Now I am getting excited! In less than 3 weeks I fly to Los Angeles, then to Tampa. I have a friend in Lakeland, where I plan to buy a motorcycle to use for a 2 month tour of the East coast of the USA. I know I am starting a bit early, weather-wise, but thats the schedule I'm stuck with, now. Would like to buy a PC of course, but does not look likely, at this point. The '90 that I brought back to Australia in '93 was a big hassle in cost and paperwork, and besides, it has run perfectly for 30 000 miles since then, so I really don't need 2! I have been following the list avidly for the past few months, and would really like to meet any fellow members to exchange thoughts/ideas on pc, touring,etc. As far as I can plan at the moment, my schedule will be roughly like this. Tour Florida including Key West until about April 5. Head north, to arrive in Montreal for April 20 family reunion. Had hoped to do the Blue Ridge p/way, but now suspect it is too soon in the season, so may be more "coastal". Leave Montreal for south to Tampa, April 27, to arrive back in time for return flight May 20 to Australia. Some but not all of the stops include Atlanta, Oak Ridge, Raleigh, Chapel Hill, Washington, and NYC.So if any fellow listmembers are feeling sociable, please email me, and we may be able to meet! Regards, Ron Grant in Brisbane. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 18:03:42 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: dkgross@halcyon.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: paint job/body work Dave Gross wrote: > how do you think it would look if I > replaced all the bottom parts with the shiny Black bottoms that come on > the '96 Red model (not the icky flat black on the '97). They're actually a very dark metallic gray. I could scan a piece of lower bodywork if you'd like and send it e-mail or post it to a location of your choice. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ pc800@sina.hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:13:15 CST by jarvis.ims.alaska.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18598 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:08:05 -0900 (AKST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:08:05 -0900 (AKST) From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: hot grips To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 06:58 PM 3/4/97 -0500, Roger Prince wrote: >I got some mating connectors for my PCs off old 750s in the dealer's >back warehouse. Makes a neat hookup. I have my intercom and radar >detector connected there. Say, you wouldn't have some pictures of that would you? >I didn't realize the bottom is "flat" black on the '97. I wonder if >there are any '96s left around. Looks more desirable. Not only is it flat black, it looks like the same type of plastic we have _inside_ the trunk! Very cheesy for a cosmetic surface. Then again, it will suffer fools (and accidents) better than a painted surface. I still don't like it though. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:46:42 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: hot grips Juan A. Goula wrote: > > At 06:58 PM 3/4/97 -0500, Roger Prince wrote: > >I didn't realize the bottom is "flat" black on the '97. I wonder if > >there are any '96s left around. Looks more desirable. > > Not only is it flat black, it looks like the same type of plastic we have > _inside_ the trunk! Very cheesy for a cosmetic surface. Then again, it > will suffer fools (and accidents) better than a painted surface. I still > don't like it though. > > >I got some mating connectors for my PCs off old 750s in the dealer's > >back warehouse. Makes a neat hookup. I have my intercom and radar > >detector connected there. > > Say, you wouldn't have some pictures of that would you? > No, I don't have any pictures. If you have access to old bikes or a salvage yard, you can find a mating connector. If you can cut the wires off 3-4" from the connector then you have a nice pigtail to splice to. It's too bad Honda didn't include an accessory cable. BMW would have made one available for $25. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:29:33, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Electric hookups Juan asked: >Yep, that's the one, snuggled up to the starter relay/fuse. There are three >leads: Ground (-), Switched Power (+), Continuos Power(+). Switched power >is cut off by the ignition switch. These were placed there to hook up the >now nonexistent radio and the trunk light kit. Anybody check on a '96 and >a '97 to see if these taps are still there? The taps are still there on my "96. I have not used them because there is no description of them anywhere (that I've been able to find). I've hooked up my Gerbing Heat and the additional tail light straight from the battery. Where is there a write up on the tap ? Thanks for your help. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Electric hookups From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 05 Mar 1997 14:35:41 -0600 Lines: 8 >>>>> "GFH" == GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG writes: GFH> Where is there a write up on the tap ? In the shop manual, on the big fold-out wiring diagram. I can look up the wire colors for you when I get home. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 13:15:59 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Ammeter Installation! Another Gadget has been installed!! If you're the curious type, check out http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/AMINSTAL.HTM. I explain how I installed my ammeter and just how good is the electrical system on the PC. Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA26385; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:52:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:52:32 -0500 (EST) To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Cold Weather Riding. A new mateial from England may be the cold rider's dream. This material called Gorix can control temperature to within 1 degree, and is so energy efficient that a heated suit for riders uses only eight 1.2 volt batteries mounted on a belt. It should be available by next winter. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:12:44 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: happy PurlGurl it's amazing what a new set of tires (177s) and an oil change can do :>) wheeee....even in the rain..she feels like a million. -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 20:23:02 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PILEWIS1@concentric.net CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Ammeter Installation! PILEWIS1 wrote: > I explain how I installed my ammeter and just how good is the electrical > system on the PC. Gauge installation looks OEM! A few observations of an electrical nature: 1) 25 Amps at a "perfect world" 13.8 VDC is 345 watts. The PC alternator is rated at 340... at 14 VDC it's 350 watts, at 15 VDC it's 375 watts... 2) You'd be amazed at the voltage drop which can occur at low voltages (i.e.: 13.8) and high current. 10 gauge is rated at 30 Amps, which I feel is too close to the Max current draw of your accessories. I would double up on the 10 gauge or use a single run of 8 gauge (The "Monster" variety that's very flexible and easy to work with and is usually used for high power car audio installations) 3) For many more details to lose sleep over, E-mail me direct and I'll have you as paranoid as I am over things electrical... ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: happy PurlGurl Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:12:20 -0500 A new set of tires yes but an oil change? I replaced the oil in my Suzuki Samurai's transmission, transfer case, and differentals with synthetic last night and it seems to be smoother shifting and less noisy. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:22:51 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: New Jersey Bike Ins. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Somebody in the group told me about a low price ins. broker in NJ. It was Rider, or selective, or something. Whoever it was, could you send it to me again? I got a friend in Hoboken who want to give them a call. Thanks, Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:09:15 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Shaffer Subject: Re: Trip to USA. To: Ronald Grant cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi Ron; You may not want to give up on the Blue Ridge Parkway.Spring should be sprung by April. I've heard reports of an early spring. Another option is to ride it on your return trip from Montreal! Barry Shaffer (716) 679-3185 Grape Farm Mgmt.Specialist Fax (716) 679-3122 412 E. Main St. email:bshaffer@cce.cornell.edu Fredonia, NY 14063 CENET:bshaffer for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 00:40:41 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:26:54 -0600 From: Gerri Ewing To: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: Sharing a Speed Trap Story A PC rider was unknowingly caught in an automated speed trap that measured his speed using radar and photographed his bike. He later received in the mail a ticket for $40, and a photo of his PC 800. Instead of payment, he sent the police department a photograph of $40. Several days later, he received a letter from the police department that contained another picture - of handcuffs. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: kyle_n_ame@juno.com (Kyle & Ame A Lankford) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 20:16:22 EST Hello How about a meeting of PC's sometime this spring or summer in Georgia or someplacce in the southeast? --------------------Kyle ---------------------------'90 white PC and no need for a cage-- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 23:53:04 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Francois Saint Laurent Subject: GIVI top case, and backrest Hey there fellow PC'ers! I have been checking out all the WEB pages for PC800 owners, groups, aftermarket suppliers, etc., and I am trying to determine two things. 1 - Does anyone have both a GIVI top case and some sort of passenger backrest? I understand the Hondaline backrest can't be used with the GIVI. Does anyone here have a GIVI with a Corbin seat? Would the Corbin backrest fit? Does anyone have a solution to this? 2 - Based on the comments I have read in the archive about wind buffeting, I am pretty sure I will be ordering a Rifle windscreen. I am 6'2" with a 34" inseam. (I like walks on the beach and discussing Zoroastrian philosophy. My turn offs include pretentious brain surgeons and....ooops, wait...I got side tracked when I started to reveal some personal information!!!!) Back to the Rifle. Any recommendations from other 74" inchers out there? I would like to be able to see over the Rifle during highway driving. What lengths of windscreens do some of you have? Also, how long does it take for delivery, and where is the best known source of supply? Wow...quite a lot of questions from some guy who just signed up on this list a couple of weeks ago!!!! Any and all answers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone. fsl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 23:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Johan Lai To: Francois Saint Laurent cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: GIVI top case, and backrest Hi Francois! Welcome to PC paradise! On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Francois Saint Laurent wrote: > 1 - Does anyone have both a GIVI top case and some sort of passenger > backrest? I understand the Hondaline backrest can't be used with the GIVI. > Does anyone here have a GIVI with a Corbin seat? Would the Corbin backrest > fit? Does anyone have a solution to this? I got the 50 liter trunk and the backrest option that mounts to the trunk. It give a wider support as my wife tells me (I've never been in the passenger seat while moving) but lacks lower support. The Hondaline backrest has to be removed. I have the Corbin also, but I doubt even the Corbin's backrest can fit in that tight spot. What I have discovered, however, is that I can use the little velcro tab that covers the Corbin hole where the Corbin backrest is normally inserted, and attach it to just the Hondaline pad (w/o the brackets) just to hold it in place. I offers lower support for my wife when we're moving and it doesn't fall off when my wife dismounts the bike. > 2 - Based on the comments I have read in the archive about wind buffeting, > I am pretty sure I will be ordering a Rifle windscreen. I am 6'2" with a > 34" inseam. (I like walks on the beach and discussing Zoroastrian > philosophy. My turn offs include pretentious brain surgeons and....ooops, > wait...I got side tracked when I started to reveal some personal > information!!!!) Although I have the Hondaline tall windshield, Rifle's a good shield that takes away the dash meltdown problem. I know there are several on the list (including myself) who would love to compare notes with you on Christian principles. But that will remain private of course :) Cheers, Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:45:52 -0500 (EST) From: Barre Bull To: Kyle & Ame A Lankford cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: your mail Kyle how about at the Hoot...several of us will be there and have already started figuring out how to connect up. Barre' Barre' Bull Network Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Kyle & Ame A Lankford wrote: > Hello > > How about a meeting of PC's sometime this spring or summer in > Georgia or someplacce in the southeast? > > > > > > --------------------Kyle > ---------------------------'90 white PC and no need for a cage-- > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA04543 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:48:01 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:48:01 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: 96 model To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Juan Goula wrote: > I wonder if there are any '96s left around. Looks more desirable. > Juan - I'm not sure who actually wrote the above line, and there may be 100's of 96's left, but I've only seen one recently in Southern California, at Chapparell in San Bernardino on "sale" for 7500 new. They tried to sell it to me for $7,600 in November, and it's still there, now with a $7,400 sign on it. FYI. By the way, if you come for it, bring your swimsuit...it was 80 degrees yesterday. I put 130 wonderful miles on, and not naked or in the snow! Greg by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA04457; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:20:36 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:20:36 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: GIVI top case, and backrest To: Francois Saint Laurent Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >I would like to be able to see over the Rifle during highway driving. What >lengths of windscreens do some of you have? Also, how long does it take for >delivery, and where is the best known source of supply? > Dear Listers: NOW BE NICE!! This is a great opportunity for a sarcastic reply, since we just went through an incredible series of at least 100 messages and some negotiations by two dedicated listers to get a group discount on the Rifle windscreen. However, the short answer is that a deal was negotiated with Cycle Designs (1-800-343-1374) to get the Rifle for $140 plus $8 shipping. Color is $40 extra. As for timing, I ordered mine over a week ago and they predicted mid-March, but who really knows. You should reference the PC800 list for the discount. Also, welcome to the list!! I have learned a great deal from the helpful people on this list, and have enjoyed it greatly. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 08:41:13 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: 96 model there's a 96 at Lake City Honda in Seattle, and another one at University Honda in Seattle. You buy it, and I'll be glad to drive it to you :>) dave gross ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: New Member Date: Sat, 8 Mar 97 17:26:12 -0500 From: Charles To: "PC800" May name is Charles Shepler I live in Marion, Indiana, which is about 65 miles northeast of Indianapolis. Email address is: stampman@comteck.com I bought my PC new in May of 1996 in Muncie, Indiana. So far I like the bike very much. I am looking forward to sharing information with the group. Thank You, Charles Shepler ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: rochambeau@juno.com Subject: Re: Welcome to pc800 From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 17:49:46 EST My gosh I got on. I feel as if I have been scratching at a door for a long time and finally it swung open and I fell into a nice warm spot. Persistence pays. Hi, I am Stan Rocklin but go by Rocky Rochambeau on the internet. I have a '96 PC800-T and it has 3300 miles on it. It is just starting to warm up and we took a 50 mile ride around our area today just for grins :):):). I had a BMW dealer in Fredericksburg tell me to take his used older PC800 for a test ride and maybe I'd buy it. It had a radio kit on it. Was lovely but wife sed let us get a new one. So we did. We got it 4/96. Then I went to order a radio kit and guess what. Impossible. ANYONE KNOW OF A RADIO KIT FOR SALE????? The guy who takes care of my Indian motorcycle, Bob Markey of Bob's Indian in Etters, PA. had just sent a PC800 radio kit back to Honda when I happened to mention I was looking for one. I wanted to cry. Bob's is also a Honda dlr. Well so we like the bike and riding it feels and sounds like my old 69 R60 BMW, the same sounds and whine and etc etc but a lot better bike. That old BMW had bad brakes, 6V lites and those two things--well either one can get ya' killed seriously as Kansas. Then we wanted a higher backrest than the stock one I got. So I sent off to Corbin and told them that the seat was different from the older PC800's bcuz we had a time with the backrest until Honda got the act together and sent my dlr. a correct one for the '96. Nonetheless it fell on dead ears and Corbin sent us a seat with a high backrest but guess what? It would not fit. I sent it back and they did not want to refund me. They said I would have to wait until they got a '96 in there to model one for me. "When will that be?" I asked. Answer: "Whenever someone on a '96 Honda PC800 rides in here." Well that could be next week or next year, so I got after them and got a credit card credit less the freight. I protested it to my bank as the freight was quite high with insurance etc and the bank up and gave me full credit back. Some guy in TN makes high backrest seats but they are swamped and no use to pursue it with them. So that is chatty me. Any return comment's would be very welcome as I hope I am here. Also I belong to 2 Indian Motorcycle mailing lists like this one if anyone's interested. A bientot. Rocky ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 19:09:40 -0600 From: Wells Family To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: First ride: Hi all: Been laying low lately,but had my first ride in 3 month's.I'm hoping next year to be in the 12 month club but this year my bike was stored in a place that I could not move it.Other arraingments will be made next year.Well any way just letting you all know that my sole has been cleansed today and I feel great. Tom Wells Wisconsin 1995 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: backrest and scoot boot From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 22:18:47 EST Tonite I saw on the home page a pic of a PC800 with a luggage compartment (we used to call 'em "Scoot Boot") on the front of which was a backrest. Who makes those? That'd take care of my wife's backrest want and give us some xtra storage. Help!! Thank you. A bientot. Tip: Motorcycling by a place where alcoholic beverages are sold and you see someone in a car waiting to pull out? Treat that drive as if s/he had a little bit too much to drink and is going to pull right out in front of you. Now about that scoot boot backrest.... ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Estes, Cory S" To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: First ride: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 07:30:41 -0500 Tom Wells wrote: > > Been laying low lately,but had my first ride in 3 month's.I'm >hoping next year to be in the 12 month club but this year my bike was >stored in a place that I could not move it.Other arraingments will be >made next year.Well any way just letting you all know that my sole has >been cleansed today and I feel great. I'll just add my $0.02 worth. Me, too. The PC is still in storage for another week or two, but I got the new intake manifold onto the GB-500 yesterday and off we went! It was nice. Yep, there's a bunch fewer cobwebs in the soul now! I do belive that Spring has sprung, the GB doth whiz, and out there with the other bikers I is! Cory S. Estes '89 Honda Pacific Coast (Millennium Turtle) '90 Honda GB-500 '97 Chevy S-10 Pick Up > > Status: N ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cem Erdem To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:18:03 -0600 Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 or very clean '94. Any color. Willing to travel for deals. Cem (gem) Erdem cem@auguste.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Cem Erdem Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Mar 1997 17:11:57 -0600 Lines: 12 >>>>> "CE" == Cem Erdem writes: CE> Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 or very clean '94. Any color. Well, your choices are Black (94, 95) and RRRRed (96). CE> Willing to travel for deals. How far? I'll take a guess and assume you're in Minneapolis. If Texas isn't too far I'll check the local paper. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA04698 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:06:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:06:12 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fwd: service manuals --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: service manuals ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 97-03-09 23:03:03 EST From: Akoell To: pc800@hpc. Anybody know a good price for the PC service manual? My bike is a '94, but I imagine that a manual is inclusive of most years of PC's. I haven't asked my dealer what his price is yet. Anyone out there let me know if you consider the service manual worth the price. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA05557; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:48:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:48:02 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: pits in the wheels .... Hi All, Well, I have ridden every month in the past year. However, the aluminum wheels on my PC have suffered. I was an IDIOT and LEFT the road salt on the wheels. Now I've got UGLY, SPOTTY discoloration where my near mirror finish used to be. I really don't want to own a "winter" set of whees for the bike. I have tried SoftScrub and Mothers Aluminum Polish, which made the wheels smooth, but didn't get rid of the discoloration. Any ideas? Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: service manuals From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 09 Mar 1997 22:54:50 -0600 Lines: 15 >>>>> "A" == Akoell writes: A> Anyone out there let me know if you consider the service manual worth A> the price. If you ever intend to do anything more than change the oil, you should have it. The wiring diagram and the flow chart for taking off all of the plastic bits are invaluable. Other little things like all of the torque specs are pretty much essential, especially when you consider the price of putting a helicoil in the oil pan because you stripped the threads with the drain plug. The travesty is that the book doesn't come with the bike. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:04:47 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Akoell@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Fwd: service manuals Akoell@aol.com wrote: > Anyone out there let me know if you consider the service manual > worth the price. Worth every penny. And for a Honda part, it's not too expensive at about $34. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:19:23 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Akoell@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: service manuals I suggest you call Cycle Design for a quote. Roger Prince by fw.nmti.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 1997 15:03:05 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mcbride@baileynm.com (Tom McBride) Subject: Service Manual To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:03:51 -0600 (CST) ++ ++Akoell@aol.com wrote: ++ ++> Anyone out there let me know if you consider the service manual ++> worth the price. ++ garyklim@snet.net wrote: ++Worth every penny. And for a Honda part, it's not too expensive at about ++$34. I wouldn't have minded paying $34, but my dealer here in Houston wanted about $20 more than that, which I thought was a bit of a rip. I got mine from an Alaskan dealer via Cory Estes of this group for $25, which I thought was a real deal. Maybe someone else here can scrounge them up for that price? It is a reference you will need, unless you let your dealer handle *all* your maintenence. Tom McBride ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell@aol.com by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA16800 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:36:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:36:07 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Pits in the Wheels I had almost the same problem. A guy at work gave me a can of Never Dull. It's a swabbing material that you rub into the dirt and pits. It really worked for me although it took a little while. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:13:37 -0800 From: Robert Gohl To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC 800 Clubs Anyone know of a PC 800 riding club. In a way we are all kind of a club but I was looking for a MC club to join here in Seattle or close to Seattle. Thanks ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'Francois Saint Laurent'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: GIVI top case, and backrest Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:25:12 -0800 I have the +6 Rifle. I can see over the top of it enough to ride in the rain if I sit up straight and I am 6 feet tall with about a 33" inseam. So I would estimate that you would be able to see over the +6 without any problems at all and that would offer you the most wind protection. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer rjackson@wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Francois Saint Laurent [SMTP:fsl@borgconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, March 07, 1997 8:53 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: GIVI top case, and backrest Hey there fellow PC'ers! I have been checking out all the WEB pages for PC800 owners, groups, aftermarket suppliers, etc., and I am trying to determine two things. 1 - Does anyone have both a GIVI top case and some sort of passenger backrest? I understand the Hondaline backrest can't be used with the GIVI. Does anyone here have a GIVI with a Corbin seat? Would the Corbin backrest fit? Does anyone have a solution to this? 2 - Based on the comments I have read in the archive about wind buffeting, I am pretty sure I will be ordering a Rifle windscreen. I am 6'2" with a 34" inseam. (I like walks on the beach and discussing Zoroastrian philosophy. My turn offs include pretentious brain surgeons and....ooops, wait...I got side tracked when I started to reveal some personal information!!!!) Back to the Rifle. Any recommendations from other 74" inchers out there? I would like to be able to see over the Rifle during highway driving. What lengths of windscreens do some of you have? Also, how long does it take for delivery, and where is the best known source of supply? Wow...quite a lot of questions from some guy who just signed up on this list a couple of weeks ago!!!! Any and all answers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone. fsl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Francois Saint Laurent Borg Consulting Ottawa, Canada fsl@borgconsulting.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mcbride@baileynm.com (Tom McBride) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Service Manual From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 10 Mar 1997 12:21:33 -0600 Lines: 9 >>>>> "TM" == Tom McBride writes: TM> I wouldn't have minded paying $34, but my dealer here in Houston wanted TM> about $20 more than that, which I thought was a bit of a rip. Which Houston dealer wanted that much? Sounds like Stubbs to me. - J< (who's amazed that there's someone else from Houston here) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA11650 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:12:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:12:40 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC Bites the Dust Although I still don't believe that it was inevitable, I was involved in an accident yesterday. I was leading a group of fellow HSTAers on Mulholland Hwy. We were 2 miles up from PCH. I was in a descending right hand turn going about 35, not leaned over far, in my lane, operating responsibly. My wheels were 1-2 feet inside the dbl yellow. I saw another rider coming uphill cross into my lane. We hit, but not head on. In the next instant I was down and bouncing/rolling down the road. I came to rest in the middle of the opposite lane. Luckily no traffic hit either of us. I hurt but nothing seemed broken. I didn't hit my head hard. The other guy and his passenger were down. The passenger didn't feel like moving for awhile but it turned out that she was also mostly unscathed. His bike has bent handlebars, footpegs and cosmetic damage. Alas, my '89 PC is toast. The front wheel and forks were torn completely off. Much plastic damage. I'm going to the doctor for a checkup today to make sure nothing hidden is wrong. I scraped my knee, took the fall mostly on my right buttocks and side and some on my right shoulder. I'm pretty sore and stiff today, but I consider myself fairly lucky physically. It could easily have been much worse, especially if I'd gone over the side of the road (several hundred feet to the bottom). I don't know how this will turn out. Hopefully he has insurance, but given the age and mileage of my bike, I'm not sure if I'll be able to replace it. I may not get another PC (heresy!) because I'm not real happy with the durability of the plastic, especially the con- nectors/tabs. On the other hand, no bike has ever fit me as well. If I can find a used one at a price I can afford, I'll probably get another. Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:00:43 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: pc800 list Subject: Re: 96 model Juan A. Goula wrote: > > Hello Greg! > > At 07:48 AM 3/8/97 -0600, you wrote: > >Juan Goula wrote: > >> > > > > I wonder if there are any '96s left around. Looks more desirable. > >> > >Juan - > > > >I'm not sure who actually wrote the above line, and there may be 100's > >of 96's left, but I've only seen one recently in Southern California, > >at Chapparell in San Bernardino on "sale" for 7500 new. They tried to > >sell it to me for $7,600 in November, and it's still there, now with a > >$7,400 sign on it. FYI. By the way, if you come for it, bring your > >swimsuit...it was 80 degrees yesterday. I put 130 wonderful miles on, > >and not naked or in the snow! > > The question was originaly posted by (I believe) Roger Prince. I have > forwarded your comment to him. Interesting that Honda and their dealers > did not learn the lesson from the early 90's about the PC being a hot seller > (not). Makes it better for us, since we will eventually get primo left > overs in a couple of years :-) > --- The comment about the availability of '96s was mine, based on my opinion that it may be a better bike, looks and price, than the '97. Wish I was in the market. I like the '96 looks. Roger by fw.nmti.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 1997 20:14:26 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mcbride@baileynm.com (Tom McBride) Subject: Re: Service Manual To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:15:11 -0600 (CST) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu ++ ++>>>>> "TM" == Tom McBride writes: ++ ++TM> I wouldn't have minded paying $34, but my dealer here in Houston wanted ++TM> about $20 more than that, which I thought was a bit of a rip. ++ ++Which Houston dealer wanted that much? Sounds like Stubbs to me. ++ ++ - J< (who's amazed that there's someone else from Houston here) ++ Yes: Stubbs Southwest, in fact. Didn't try any of the other dealers or mail order, since Cory`s offer of a $25 manual came along about that time. Tom ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Daytona Results From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:17:48 EST For those who have not heard the Daytona 200 results: 1. Scott Russell, Yamaha. 2. Doug Chandler, Kawasaki 3. Colin Edwards, Yamaha 4. Steve Crevier, Honda 5. Pascal Picotte, Suzuki 6. Tom Kipp, Yamaha 7. Miguel Duhamel, Honda 8. Larry Pegram, Suzuki 9. Aaron Yates, Suzuki 10. Paul Harrell, Yamaha Mike Larson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA25564 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:34:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:34:08 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Home Again! Hey, y'all! Tim here...back from Florida and its delights...including a quick trip to Daytona. Got back Saturday afternoon and have been buried in all of the nonsense that accumulates when one is gone for three weeks. I'll get on a bit later (after reading thru the 340 messages waiting for me!) and detail a bit more about the trip. Suffice it to say that I put on 7800 miles of trouble-free riding...LOVE THAT BIKE! Tim Macy '94 PC800---45,700 Miles And Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Akoell@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: service manuals From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:10:26 EST Yes. Yes the manual is worth the price. It already saved me its cost. I banged the snow shovel against the mirror and it popped off, dangling from the cord. I freaked. Then I got the manual and it gave specific instructions on how to reattach the mirror. I was done in 10 min. 1 bolt did not want to readily go in and I began to strip the threads. I pulled it out and wiggled and wiggled and finally got it. Also it shows how to remove the body panels and I had to do that because the shifter lever was not in a good position at all and removing panels got me to the bolt to remove the shifter lever and I was able to reposition it nicely. Get the manual. It covers all models thru '96 and is very thurough! I got the bike last April and love it. Need a radio kit and need the trunk {as shown in pic on PC800 home page}(we used to call those trunks "Scoot Boots") that mounts behind the passenger and has a backrest pad on it. Desperate! Can you help me? Radio kit, On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:06:12 -0500 (EST) Akoell@aol.com writes: > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >Subj: service manuals >Date: 97-03-09 23:03:03 EST >From: Akoell >To: pc800@hpc. > > Anybody know a good price for the PC service manual? > > My bike is a '94, but I imagine that a manual is inclusive of most > years of PC's. > > I haven't asked my dealer what his price is yet. > > Anyone out there let me know if you consider the service manual > worth the price. > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:53:20, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: 96 model Re; the 96 vs 97 discussion. I ordered my new 96 for $7250 + shipping, the end of Sept and rec'd it in Oct. (now has 4500 trouble free miles). The '97 model was available and I opted for the '96 since it still had the front covers which I think improves the appearance, as well as the cancelling directional signals. Honda has an interesting Marketing approach, take off $1000 and charge more for the 97. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rjackson@wrightstrat.com Cc: fsl@borgconsulting.com, "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'"@staff.juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: GIVI top case, and backrest From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:40:49 EST No man, I was talking about a luggage box that goes in back of the passenger...not a dealy for in front. My windshield is perfect for me and I notice it was quite a bit shorter than the one on the old PC I took for a ride last April that spurred me to get a new one. Thanks for the ride Clyde. Now I wish I had got the old one. It had a radio kit. I asked all abt. a radio kit but I will have to buy a used bike with the radio kit to get one. Bob's Indian (& Honda) had just sent a radio kit back to Honda when I asked abt. it. My luck! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: GuntherSki@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Re: pits in the wheels .... From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:40:49 EST I don't know for sure but I'd bet SIMICHROME would work. You'd need a cloth wheel on an electric drill to avoid sore fingers. If not, try jewelers rouge or automotive rubbing compound. If you use rubbing compound, go lightly by hand. It can't hurt. When the rubbing compound has done its thing, then the simichrome can be used to polish things up. Let me know.... On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:48:02 -0500 (EST) GuntherSki@aol.com writes: >Hi All, > >Well, I have ridden every month in the past year. However, the >aluminum >wheels on my PC have suffered. I was an IDIOT and LEFT the road salt >on the >wheels. Now I've got UGLY, SPOTTY discoloration where my near mirror >finish >used to be. I really don't want to own a "winter" set of whees for the >bike. >I have tried SoftScrub and Mothers Aluminum Polish, which made the >wheels >smooth, but didn't get rid of the discoloration. Any ideas? > >Z >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: mcbride@baileynm.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Service Manual From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:40:49 EST If you have a buddy with one of these manuals you can take it to a copy shop and they could do it for about $8-$10 I wager. Kinkos did a huge manual for me once for a phone system voice mail. I don't want to get off on the wrong foot on this net but you need to remove a page if it talks about copyright which was the case on the voice mail manual. Copy shops protect themselves by refusing to do jobs which include a copyright notice. I did not say this. But hey, $25 is more than fair. I know who is a super honest Honda dealer. He is also an antique Indian Motorcycle dealer. I am sure you would get the manual for an honest price. They ship UPS cod or you could send him a check. He is Bob Markey of Bob's Indian Motocycle Sales and Service in Etters, PA. (717) 938-2556. Be sure to tell him little Stan the Indian man sent you and tell him you found me on the internet. I am trying to talk Bob in to going on the internet. Bon chance. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:45:38 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: JeffHamltn@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC Bites the Dust JeffHamltn@aol.com wrote: > > Although I still don't believe that it was inevitable, I was involved in an > accident yesterday. After having done a credible Superman imitation thanks to a drunk driver some 22 years ago, I can relate all too well to your unfortunate encounter. I wish you a speedy recovery. > Alas, my '89 PC is toast. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for "Mr. Canyon Racer"... > ...I'm not > real happy with the durability of the plastic, especially the con- > nectors/tabs. I've had almost all the bodywork off (except the trunk) several times on my '96 and have had no problems with broken tabs, although some pieces are quite tedious to remove/replace. Even though the manual devotes 24 plus pages to plastic removal, several diagrams are less than clear as to the location of interlocking tabs. There was a time when Honda service manuals had actual photos that have since been replaced with CAD drawings... :( ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: Home Again! Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:31 -0500 Tim, Glad that you made it back ok and I am real sorry that I missed you in Fort Myers. Thanks for stopping by. I just returned from the Daytona madness. This was my best bike week ever. The weather was wonderful. I am still amazed at what a great bike the PC is. You just can't beat it for touring and it will move out. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA23713 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:21 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Playing in Peoria Hey everyone... Just wanted to let everyone know that Central Illinois is thawing out! Saw lots of bikes out enjoying the weather (and their riders too) on Saturday. It was cold, but the PC800 did it's job of protecting me from the wind chill. And that brings me to a question. Does anyone else get a 'hesitation' in acceleration when starting up in first gear, and shifting from first to second? I started experiencing this last fall when the engine was warmed up a little, but it was cold out...in the neighberhood of 45 degrees or so. I had not experienced this at all during the summer months. I'm getting the same thing now, and I assume that it will go away as the warm months arrive. It is similar to a carb on a car when the choke is on and it is loading up on gas...a 'stumble'. Should I accept this as normal or a sign of problems to come? Cheers! ---Tim Adams '89 PC800 (Sharing garage space with a '77 Newport --- my sister's NOT mine!) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA29864 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:20 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 << Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 or very clean '94. Any color. Willing to travel for deals. Parkway Dodge, #2 Auto Row Drive, Bloomington, IL 309-829-1222 has an ad in the local trading post (with picture) for a 1990 model Honda Pacific Coast. The ad says it has 4230 miles, and the asking price is $5995. If anyone wants me to go take a look at it, just let me know... Cheers! ---Tim Adams '89 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: , "Kyle & Ame A Lankford" Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:44:56 -0500 How about the Honda Hoot in Ashville? Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:03:56 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: TRA1966@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Playing in Peoria TRA1966@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone else get a > 'hesitation' in acceleration when starting up in first gear, and shifting > from first to second? I started experiencing this last fall when the engine > was warmed up a little, but it was cold out...in the neighberhood of 45 > degrees or so. I've experienced no carb anomalies down to 18 degrees on my '96. (My hands were another story...) I let the engine idle for as long as it takes for me to zip up the leathers, put on gloves, helmet, etc. I leave the choke on for about 3 or 4 miles at those temperatures, after which it settles down into its' usual 1200 rpm idle. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:07:41 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: TRA1966@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:48:20 -0000 Subject: Re: Playing in Peoria TRA1966@aol.com,Internet writes:=20 > Does anyone else get a=20 >'hesitation' in acceleration when starting up in first gear, and=20 >shifting=20 >from first to second? I started experiencing this last fall when the=20 >engine=20 >was warmed up a little, but it was cold out...in the neighberhood of 45=20 >degrees or so. I had not experienced this at all during the summer=20 >months.=20 Hi Tim, I have been using my PC800 all winter here in the UK at 30-35 C=20 with no hesitation - pig to start in the cold though. Full choke does=20 not work - seems best without choke and blipping throttle - any one=20 else know the correct cold start routine?=20 =20 John=20 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Estes, Cory S" To: "'PC800 List'" Subject: RE: Playing in Peoria Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:52:48 -0500 John wrote: >Full choke does not work - seems best without choke and blipping throttle - >any one else know the correct cold start routine? One of the easiest ways to get the thing to cold start better is to get it re-jetted. Fires up almost instantly! Aside from that, I've learned that mine does better if it's started on a fairly regular basis in cooler weather. When it's riding season, but a bit on the cool side, I make it a point to start and run the bike every day, even if I'm not going to be riding it. As long as I've been careful to do that mine has been a faithful cold weather starter. Cory S. Estes '89 Honda Pacific Coast (Millennium Turtle) '90 Honda GB-500 '97 Chevy S-10 Pick Up > > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cem Erdem To: "'TRA1966@aol.com'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 (fwd) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:16:11 -0600 What is the difference btw '90 and '96 PC? The price also seems little high for a 7 years old machine. I am not afraid of used ones but the ones which sits in the garage all the time shows me that the owner wasn't a real biker and probably didn't really take care of the bike. Let me know what you think. >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:38:20 -0500 (EST) >From: TRA1966@aol.com >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 > > > ><< Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 or very clean '94. Any color. Willing to >travel for deals. > > > >Parkway Dodge, #2 Auto Row Drive, Bloomington, IL 309-829-1222 has an ad in >the local trading post (with picture) for a 1990 model Honda Pacific Coast. > The ad says it has 4230 miles, and the asking price is $5995. > >If anyone wants me to go take a look at it, just let me know... > >Cheers! >---Tim Adams >'89 PC800 > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:03:43 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Keith Sproul Subject: RE: High Priced >Parkway Dodge, #2 Auto Row Drive, Bloomington, IL 309-829-1222 has an ad in >the local trading post (with picture) for a 1990 model Honda Pacific Coast. > The ad says it has 4230 miles, and the asking price is $5995. This sounds VERY high.. Last December (only 3 months ago), I bought a 1994 PC with 1950 miles for $4,350. In Amarillo, TX there is a 1994 PC with 17,000 miles for $5700. I also saw another 1994 PC with 5000 miles for $4500. It got sold before I got to it, but the dealer was very nice and pointed me to a friend of his that had the one I bought (Much less miles, and MORE warranty left) A 1990 for $6000? NO WAY!!! Keith Sproul Keith Sproul ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu WU2Z Student Housing Network Coordinator 908 445-3695 W Rutgers University Computing Services 909 821-4828 H ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Karl Siebrecht" To: "PC800 list" Subject: Tires Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:01:12 -0700 Hello all, I know this topic has been discussed before, but it is time for me to put a new rear tire on the PC, and I thought I would get the latest scoop. What manufacturers/tires are available for the PC. What are the wear and performance characteristics of them. I have always put the K177s on and have been happy with them, but only get about a year or so out of them. (My fault. I have the tendency to work the controls on the right side of the bike harder than I should.) Thanks for any input. BTW it is 76 Deg. in Denver today! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 (fwd) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 11 Mar 1997 12:42:27 -0600 Lines: 11 >>>>> "CE" == Cem Erdem writes: CE> What is the difference btw '90 and '96 PC? Six years and the color (Deep semimetallic red vs RRRed). The only significant changes happened between '89 and '90 (changes in carburetion, pollution control, stator, trunk liner and swingarm, I believe) and between '96 and '97. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:25:10 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Eleven PC800's for sale: I got the following listings out of Cycle Trader. I only hope I'm not breaking any rules by sending this info to this group. Thanks. pauly ============ 1989 HONDA Pacific Coast, clean, low mi., well maint., $4695 obo, 407-294-6864, Orlando, dlr. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC coast, pearl white, great cond, sporty to ride, runs like new w/only 5500 mi, sell new for $8500. This one only $3750. 541-327-3542. Jefferson, Or 1989 HONDA Pacific Coast 800cc, dual back res, 21K, brand new tires, wide trunk space, pin striping new, almost brand new, garage kept, $4999, call Julio Lapon II, wk. 305-558-7415 or beep 305-859-3817. 1990 HONDA Pacific Coast, 10,000 miles, excellent shape, cover, extra windshield, loaded, red, asking $4500; GREENVILLE, PA (412)588-4170 1990 Honda Pacific Coast, EC, $3900 (910)625-3776 ASHEBORO 1990, HONDA, PC800, asking $4299,, (313)-278-5000. 1990 HONDA PACIFIC COAST, purchased new in '93, exc. cond., 10K mi., candy apple red, orig. fact. color, $4895 obo, 210-553-2300 pgr., 210-340-1198 hm. 1994 Honda Pacific Coast 800 cc, black & silver, cb, corbin seat, rear spoiler, tall windshield, also included is stock seat and windshield, always garaged, serviced, 23K, EC, $4800 (910)679-8031 YADKINVILLE NC 1994 1/2 Honda Pacific Coast, 5800 miles, black, original 5yr warranty transferable, EC, $7500 new, now $4950; (614)451-9290 COLUMBUS 1995 HONDA Pacific Coast, 800cc, low maint., shaft drive, like new, 4k mi., $5950, great deal, call 408-739-2318 1996 HONDA PC800, Pacific Coast showroom bike, must see, contact James to make arrangements, to see the bike, $6000,, 310-326-7468 ============ WANTED, good clean Honda PC800, Pacific Coasts, also ST1100 and GL1500, page for immediate cash, quote wanted your Pacific Coast now. Pgr. 904-238-9434. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: CemE@vallon.com Cc: TRA1966@AOL.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 (fwd) From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:21:28 EST I can not see how letting a bike sit for a long time would equate with poor care. Long term storage is fine if proper preparations are taken. Don't let long term storage stand in your way. Find out what he did to prepare it for storage. I have a 1946 Indian with 31,000 actual miles on it and it has never been poorly maintained. Runs like a fine swiss watch. I'm 59 yrs old and have a few years exp. in the world of motorcycles ya might say. :) Cheers! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: TRA1966@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Playing in Peoria From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:21:28 EST I don't feel that is normal. You might want to check with your dealer. Could be gum from sitting all winter. Wild guess. Did you put some of that stuff in the gas and run it thru the carb that is for fuel system safety during hibernation? Anyway, mine has been run all winter, in the coldest weather and doesn't do it. Bon chance. Did you know that Peoria is one of the oldest settlements in the US? I read that someone was there from France-===some dude in France wrote that on the internet on an epistle about French settlements in the US? Pekin is French for Peking (China). My mom was born & raised there and I have one aunt and one cousin left in Peoria. How's Peoria today???? Do you know what the Peoria Rocket was? Ever heard of a girl named Helen Staley in Peo? She'd be in her late 50's now. Do they still have the Peoria TT Motorcycle races there? I talk too much. Thats enuf.....bye & hope 2 hear from you aside. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: High Priced From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:21:28 EST Car dealers always ask high. Dicker with them. I bet you can get them down a lot, especially since the cold weather is still upon us. It is probably an albatross for them, being they are a car dealer. On Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:03:43 -0500 Keith Sproul writes: >>Parkway Dodge, #2 Auto Row Drive, Bloomington, IL 309-829-1222 has >an ad in >>the local trading post (with picture) for a 1990 model Honda Pacific >Coast. >> The ad says it has 4230 miles, and the asking price is $5995. > > >This sounds VERY high.. > >Last December (only 3 months ago), I bought a 1994 PC with 1950 miles >for >$4,350. In Amarillo, TX there is a 1994 PC with 17,000 miles for >$5700. > >I also saw another 1994 PC with 5000 miles for $4500. It got sold >before I >got to it, but the dealer was very nice and pointed me to a friend of >his >that had the one I bought (Much less miles, and MORE warranty left) > > >A 1990 for $6000? NO WAY!!! > > >Keith Sproul > > > >Keith Sproul ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu WU2Z >Student Housing Network Coordinator 908 445-3695 W >Rutgers University Computing Services 909 821-4828 H > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:05:30 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: 11 for sale... wow..what an AMAZING difference in prices! -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: indian@valiant.cds.tek.com, indian@starklite.com Subject: Fuel tank sealant and new steel welded Indian gas tanks. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:58:02 EST Earlier tonite I answered one who inquired about fuel tank sealing. I had to go downstairs to get into the slow computer to find the address of Harold the gas tank maker in Phoenix so I thought I'd go ahead and share it with you. If you want to call him to find out about his gas tanks it is Harold Markland at Indian Motorcycle Co., Phoenix, AZ (602) 447-0920. I will visit Harold this Friday unless something gets seriously in my way and report on the quality of his tanks as that has come up as a question. Watch early next week for a posting. ******************************************************************************************************************** POR 50 Gas tank sealant in motorcycle sized packaging, alcohol and gasohol proof formula is made by POR 50 which specializes in restoration chemicals and resoration aids. They will send you a catalog of products including some porcelain like paint which would be good for frames etc call 800-457-6715 or fax 201-887-8007. ********************************************************* ********************************************************* Bonne nuit a tous. for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:20:45 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:06:47 -0600 From: Gerri Ewing To: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: Re: Re: Service Manual > Which Houston dealer wanted that much? Sounds like Stubbs to me. > > - J< (who's amazed that there's someone else from Houston here) I found that Cycle Shack North and Northwest Honda both wanted over 50 bucks for the manuals. So I ordered mine from one of the discount house catalogues for $35.00. Works fine, lasts a long time. Yes, there is still another Houston area PC rider reading these words of wisdom. That is if you count Conroe as part of the Houston area. If the phone doesn't ring, it's me. - J. Buffet G Ewing by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA14711 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:27:01 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:27:01 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: RE: High Priced To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu $6,000 for a 90 DOES sound very high, but these Texas prices are very good. I paid $6,000 for a 96 with 2,000 miles in December (in Los Angeles). Greg You wrote: > >>Parkway Dodge, #2 Auto Row Drive, Bloomington, IL 309-829-1222 has an ad in >>the local trading post (with picture) for a 1990 model Honda Pacific Coast. >> The ad says it has 4230 miles, and the asking price is $5995. > > >This sounds VERY high.. > >Last December (only 3 months ago), I bought a 1994 PC with 1950 miles for >$4,350. by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA05820; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:37:17 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:37:17 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC Bites the Dust To: JeffHamltn@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >Although I still don't believe that it was inevitable, I was involved in an >accident yesterday. Jeff - Here's hoping YOUR body came through in good shape. The bike is replaceable. Hopefully your friends can attest to who was on which side of the road, so you don't get stiffed for good measure. This is just another example of the difference between riding responsibly and riding like a crazy man. That guy must be an idiot to cross over the line on an apparently partially blind curve...you could have been a Mack truck, and they'd be scraping him out of the wheel well. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:27:53 -0500 To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: PC 800 Prices Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu In the most recent issue of Motorcycle Consumers News there is a "Used Bike Value Guide". The values come from the publishers of the AMA official motorcycle guide. Of course these are to be used as a guide only, but might be of some interest to you all. '89 $3850 '90 $4125 '94 $4900 '95 $5400 '96 $6800 Will |Johnson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA09446 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:55:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:55:31 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hesitations and Starting Problems In a message dated 97-03-11 04:08:45 EST, John wrote: << Full choke does not work - seems best without choke and blipping throttle >> This is indeed strange. Since the carburetors have no acceleration pumps, there is no reason why blipping the throttle should have any positive priming effect at all. Could be a clogged air filter is causing an excessively rich mixture such that cracking the throttle makes it lean enough to fire. Also, there could be a mis-adjusted choke linkage. But either of these should produce really poor fuel consumption and sluggish performance once the engine is warm. The general rule for cold starting with CV carbs is to use full "choke" (there isn't really a choke on CV carbs) and absolutely NO throttle. Cracking the throttle, even slightly, can delay or even prevent starting. Even having the idle stop set too high, can be enough to cause this. If this procedure doesn't work and the idle speed is set correctly, then there is likely to be something wrong with the enrichment circuits or the "choke" linkage is misadjusted. Tim's original post on this thread mentioned a hesitation when accelerating. As has been pointed out already, this is not normal. Two possible causes are partially clogged low-speed jets (due to sitting) and water in the fuel (which also could be due to sitting, especially if the tank is not kept completely full). I hope the starting and running problems can be solved quickly for you guys so that you can get on with enjoying your rides without distraction. The temperatures here in middle Tennessee have been nearly perfect (50 to 70 degrees) lately, and I've been running a lot of gas through both the PC and the Hawk GT. I've also been grinning a lot and running much too fast to be really popular with the local constabulary (a pox on them for adding a component of anxiety to an otherwise joyful experience). Take care, JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA06022 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:55:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:55:36 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC Bites the Dust Hi All: In a message dated 97-03-12 00:41:51 EST, Greg wrote: << This is just another example of the difference between riding responsibly and riding like a crazy man. That guy must be an idiot to cross over the line on an apparently partially blind curve... >> True enough, but there is another, more-likely explanation of this type of riding: garden-variety lack of riding skill. An alarmingly large number of riders simply have no idea how to set up and ride through a corner on a proper line or what to do if they "get in a little hot." Still no excuse, of course. There are plenty of MSF courses for the basic skills and more advanced courses like Pridmore's CLASS, Code's CA Superbike School, etc. If this guy had taken the time to learn to ride corners before attempting to ride corners (with a passenger, no less), this whole thing could have turned out much better for all concerned. My sympathies for the pain and the busted bike, Jeff. Glad that you're able to tell us about it. JT. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA28834 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Replacement? So, now that the PC is a wreck, the question is what to replace it with? As I said in my accident post, I may not get another PC. What do you all think about: --Kawasaki Concours --Honda Nighthawk 750 ('92 or so) --BMW 750S --Honda CB650SC ('84 or so) --Yamaha Seca II I really like the locking trunk of the PC, and whatever I get has to have a windshield and comfortable ergos. Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 07:23:31 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: JeffHamltn@aol.com, greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: PC Bites the Dust Jeff, I agree with Greg, taking the corner like that was crazy. How was your visit to the doctor? Did he find you in good condition, all things considered? The bike is replaceable, but you are not. Did the guy have insurance. Here in Oregon, you have to have insurance to be on the road....however, there are always a few that try to get away without it. If caught, it loose your license to drive, a fine, and sometimes jail time too. Definitely not worth trying to get away without it. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: PC Bites the Dust Author: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 3/11/97 9:56 PM You wrote: > >Although I still don't believe that it was inevitable, I was involved in an >accident yesterday. Jeff - Here's hoping YOUR body came through in good shape. The bike is replaceable. Hopefully your friends can attest to who was on which side of the road, so you don't get stiffed for good measure. This is just another example of the difference between riding responsibly and riding like a crazy man. That guy must be an idiot to cross over the line on an apparently partially blind curve...you could have been a Mack truck, and they'd be scraping him out of the wheel well. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA26088; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) To: Pauly@msn.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Eleven PC800's for sale: Wow -- these prices are surprisingly high! So, I offer again, my '89 PC800 in beautiful condition with 30K miles, all maintenance done on or before schedule, complete bike with both tall and standard windscreens, passenger backrest and bag liners for only $3,000. Any interest out there? Eric Trow Pittsburgh, PA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:00:58 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Replacement To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --Kawasaki Concours I really liked this bike and was considering it before I bought the PC. Take a decent demo ride and you will love it, and then HATE IT. It is really a great bike with excellent aftermarket support. BUT, the fact is, the bike vibrates so much that it will numb your hands in 20 minutes! It really is a shame, as the price is hard to beat. I don't think it would be possible to go from the silky smooth PC to a Connie. Too bad, the thing really hauls! --Honda Nighthawk 750 ('92 or so) Great bike. Have only heard wonderfully things about it. BUT, it is a good standard bike. Does everything well, nothing exceptional. Well, maybe it is just that I am spoiled by the looks and versatility of the PC. --BMW 750S There are some great sites for this bike . Guys I know who have them, LOVE them. It is said to be smoother than the 4 cyl. 1000s. But still, no where near as smooth as the PC. --Honda CB650SC ('84 or so) Don't know. --Yamaha Seca II I have heard similar to the Nighthawk, just not a comfortable. Have you thought about a 1980's R100RT? Chris Klass ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: Dash for a 90 PC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:46:00 -0800 Does anyone know where I can get a dash for a 90 PC for a reasonable price? The Honda dealer near me said a new one was something like $107.00 which is a just nuts if you ask me. Anyway, I want to replace my dash because the person that had it before me had speakers on the bike and had cut out the speaker locations. I am not using the speakers and would like that part of the dash back to stock. Thanks, Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer rjackson@wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:28:39 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Rusty Jackson Cc: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Dash for a 90 PC Ask Jeff Hamilton? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'Roger Prince'" , "'JeffHamltn@aol.com'" Cc: "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Dash for a 90 PC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:55:41 -0800 I thought he said the whole front of his bike was torn off? Either way, Jeff, if your dash was not destroyed and you are interested in selling it, let me know. Thanks, Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer rjackson@wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince [SMTP:roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 9:29 AM To: Rusty Jackson Cc: 'PC 800 Mailing List' Subject: Re: Dash for a 90 PC Ask Jeff Hamilton? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:30:18 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:30:25 -0500 From: "Gordon Lief" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: pc800 new member i would just like to add my name to the list of pc800 owners. Gordon Lief gordon@uscom.com 1994 Pc800 Used Stock ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:15:26 -0700 From: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Replacement >>Have you thought about a 1980's R100RT? I bought my PC because my '77 R100S vibrated too badly. Things such as vibration levels are really subjective, but the general feeling I get from both my own experience and reading the BMWMOA News is that the 1000cc Beemers are rougher than the smaller ones, to the point of being very objectionable. I think the BMW reputation for smoothness was made a long time ago, and has outlived its accuracy. Bob C. NM ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:44:10 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: JeffHamltn@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Replacement? JeffHamltn@aol.com wrote: > > So, now that the PC is a wreck, the question is what to > replace it with? Had a '91 Nighthawk 750. I have only two complaints with it. The rear shocks are there just to keep the wheel from hitting the fender until a set of *real* shocks are installed. The other problem is that the engine wants to pull strongly right up to and probably beyond the rev limiter. The problem is that the rev limiter in the Nighthawk is of the "brick wall" variety - it *kills* the ignition! If peak power fell off 500 or so rpm before the limiter few people would probably ever hit the limiter. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:39:39 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Replacement To: rmclanc@sass474.sandia.gov (9312), pc800@hpc.uh.edu To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:51:52 +0100 To: Montreal@erols.com From: GIVI srl Subject: Re: Scoot Boot At 18.52 10/03/97 -0800, you wrote: >Buon Giorno. Je crois que vous etes dans Italie. Anyway I saw a >picture of a Honda Pacific Coast Motorcycle with a luggage box on >the back. We used to call them "Scoot Boots." I asked on the >e-mail net for Honda Pacific Coast motorcycles and was given your name. >The address had changed and I found you on Lycos. > >I must warn you that the 1996 PC800 is a bit different from earlier >models. So be sure that this item will fit my bike. >How can I get some literature on it? Where may I buy it? >When you reply please reply to Montreal@erols.com >and send a Cc: to Rochambeau@juno.com > >Thanks!! :):):) > >------------------(GI.VI. SRL REPLY)------------------------- Dear Sir, We have received your E-Mail and we thank you. We inform you that our item SR 10 is specific for your bike. Moreover we can tell you that this item is now available and you can contact our US branch to achieve more information about price and delivery: GI.VI. U.S.A. SUITE 101 805 PRESSLEY ROAD CHARLOTTE, NC 28217 TEL. 001.704.6794123 FAX 001.704.6794133 E-Mail: giviusa@mindspring.com Contact Mr Paul Collins With the occasion we send our Best regards. GI.VI. SRL ======================================================= ####### ## ## ## ## | ## | Via Silvio Scaroni, 14/16 ## ## ## ## ## ## | I-25131 Brescia - ITALY ## ## ## ## ## ## | Phone: +39 (0)30 3581253 ####### ## ### ## | Fax: +39 (0)30 3580518 ========================== | E-Mail: info@givi.it MOTORCYCLE ACCESSORIES | ======================================================= ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:39:16 -0600 Lines: 14 >>>>> "MM" == Monty Montreal writes: >> I must warn you that the 1996 PC800 is a bit different from earlier >> models. In color only, not mechanically. Anyone know if there were any substantive changes in the '97 model? MM> We inform you that our item SR 10 is specific for your bike. And what, exactly, is the SR 10? I thought their products had mostly goofy techno-sounding names like "Maxia". - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: GA meeting From: kyle_n_ame@juno.com (Kyle & Ame A Lankford) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:39:53 EST Will the HSTA meeting in Helen be open to non-members? I have a membership app. How many rides will there be in Ga.? pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:51:33 CST 12 Mar 1997 23:46:26 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:44:18 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: tires??? To: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" Does anyone remeber last year when they came out with the new metzler sized for the ST1100.... at that time I thought I had heard rummor that they might have a set for the PC800....can anyone shed more light on this thought, (granted I sometimes think wierd)...... Thanks Joe Beresford Cincinnati, ohio Fireman_Joe@Compuserve.Com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:13:30 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: 5th Annual MOMMA's Ride!!! To: HSTA Posting to listr , "Fellow PC800's" ********YOUR INVITED TO COME RIDE WITH US!!!!!!!************ ====ATTENTION!! - if you are with in the sound of my voice, READ ON!!!===== (or at least with in sight of Southern Ohio) Well the 1997 ridding season is or will be underway. Sheila and Daryl Cassada are excited to co-ordinate the 5-th Annual MOMMA'S Ride, which will be held on Saturday, April 12th, 1997 -Rain or Shine perferabbly shine)! If you have been on this ride you know it's a greta way to start the riding season, last year over 60 riders turned out. Good roads, good food, good people. We'll visit Middletown Honda, (about 11am est),Catch-up with the Indiana Squadron of the HSTA-being led by Carl Freed, then meet the staff. Gary, Gene and the staff there that will be glad to help you wiht any needed parts, accessories and apparel. Check out new motorcycles from Honda, Kawasaki, and Yamaha. Enjoy some refreshments and door prizes. from there, at about 12:30pm est, we will travel to MOMMA's Great American Diner, in downtown Leesburg, Ohio right on route 28 about 1hour out from Cincy. Meet Rick and Debbie Sansone owners and fellow motorcyclist enthusiats and members of HSTA!!!....Group Pix planned for about 2pm or 3... If you wanna meet up with us and ride out from Cincy call DARYL Cassada @ 513-739-1511 If your comming down from the north Give Dave Brickner a hollar he is leading a group out of Columbus..... Hope to see some new faces, and familiar ones too!! And maybe see some new motorcycles! Let's get together! See YA! Daryl & Sheila Cassada..... this message brought to you by Fireman_Joe Joe Beresford Cincinnati, Ohio ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KANDJCS@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:46:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:46:15 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 tires My '89 PC rides on METZELER ML2 tires on both front and rear. I LOVE THEM! I've had K555's and K177's on the bike and they don't compare. The best part about the ML2 is that there is no center groove in the tread. This means the bike doesn't shimmy over grooved surfaces or drawbridge grates. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA28198; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:34:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:34:13 -0500 (EST) To: Montreal@erols.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] In a message dated 97-03-12 21:14:03 EST, Montreal@erols.com (Monty Montreal) writes: << With the occasion we send our Best regards. GI.VI. SRL >> Wow, do those Italians know how to write.... Hey list, lets pick up the writing a bit eh.... ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mskrocki@meldrum.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 10:11:30 est To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Tour & Travel Thought I'd mention that in the latest issue of Motorcycle Tour & Travel (May 1997) there is an article about touring in Virginia's Southwest (Page 34) that features pictures that include an 1989 Pacific Coast. Just thought you all might like to know. Enjoy the ride. Mark Skrocki Sandra & Mark Skrocki 89 PC800 "Layla" hers / 85 VF1100S "Almighty Aphrodite" his Shaker Hts., OH mskrocki@meldrum.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:58:42 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] > << With the occasion we send our Best regards. > > GI.VI. SRL >> > > Wow, do those Italians know how to write.... > > Hey list, lets pick up the writing a bit eh.... The Italians apparently have a rather flowery style of formal business writing that is a special art for them. I have an American friend who lived and worked in Italy for several years, and became completely fluent in the spoken language, but said he never quite got to the level of acceptability in his written Italian. He always had to have a native rework his letters. I was interested to note this little hint of that style. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:25:07 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] At 08:39 PM 3/12/97 -0600, you wrote: >In color only, not mechanically. Anyone know if there were any substantive >changes in the '97 model? You mean other than the front fender and non self-cancelling turn signals? Nope, not that I am aware of. Oh yeah, the plastic used for the bottom pieces seems to be different, but only in formulation, not shape. >And what, exactly, is the SR 10? I thought their products had mostly goofy >techno-sounding names like "Maxia". One of the neat things about GIVI luggage is that they all use the same mounting system. Thus, if you get a different bike, all you need is to get the rack(s) for that bike, and you can keep using your bags. I am sure "SR 10" refers to the rack specific to the PC. Juan > - J< >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:38:12 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Languages At 10:58 AM 3/13/97 EST, you wrote: >The Italians apparently have a rather flowery style of formal business >writing that is a special art for them. I have an American friend who lived >and worked in Italy for several years, and became completely fluent in the >spoken language, but said he never quite got to the level of acceptability in >his written Italian. He always had to have a native rework his letters. This "flowery" style is not specific to Italian. Pretty much all of the latin derived languages like French, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish have similar styles. This style is very hard to translate into English and the Germanic languages. Of course, if you want to try really complex levels of formality, try Japanese! :-) It is not surprising that the owner's manuals for our bikes have some weird wording here and there, because of the difficulty in translating the meaning, not just the words. Juan > >I was interested to note this little hint of that style. > >--James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by aldus.northnet.org with SMTP; 13 Mar 1997 18:06:38 -0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:03:05 -0500 From: Philip Towne To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: (no subject) I am interested in purchasing a Pc and wondering if this bike is good for around Town? I Live in upstate NY, any good use bikes in my area. Contact me at ptowne@northnet Thanks Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:31:07 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: pc800 list Subject: [Fwd: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot]] --------------1CFBAE393F54BC7EFF6D5DF This was my reply to Jason. Roger --------------1CFBAE393F54BC7EFF6D5DF ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:59:21 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Jason L Tibbitts III Subject: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: Scoot Boot] Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > MM> We inform you that our item SR 10 is specific for your bike. > > And what, exactly, is the SR 10? I thought their products had mostly goofy > techno-sounding names like "Maxia". > > - J< The SR10 is the rack plate and mounting hardware for it, designed specifically for the PC. If you look at my pictures the SR10 is all the GiVi hardware except the box. Then any of the GiVi boxes just snap onto the rack plate. The SR10 is!!! are you ready? $71.00 plus shipping. Roger ps Have you ordered yours yet? They have a beautiful catalog and price list. You should request one just to have it. --------------1CFBAE393F54BC7EFF6D5DF-- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:34:16 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Philip Towne Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) Philip Towne wrote: > > I am interested in purchasing a Pc and wondering if this bike is good > for around Town? I Live in upstate NY, any good use bikes in my area. > Contact me at ptowne@northnet Thanks Phil > -- In town, out of town, around town, especially under Towne. Sorry, couldn't resist. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA10599; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:38:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:38:53 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: fpf@teleport.com, LaughngGs@aol.com, dabeemer@execpc.com, cbaehr@omnifest.uwm.edu, don@orionsys.com, c22jpk@koptsv01.delcoelect.com, Sidney.S.Letter@dartmouth.edu, mikecoan@sprynet.com, PBAILEY123@aol.com Subject: Motorcycle Madness (Part Two) Well, now! Finally squirreled away enough time to read thru all of the awaiting messages--only 290 after I blew away the junk mail on AOL--and write up a little more about the Portland-Orlando-Portland trip. Now that I've had a few days to review the past three weeks I can put a little perspective around the journey. Any time that I have taken a major motorcycle trip I have always planned it so that the ride is at least as important as the destination--if there's even a destination at all. This trip was completely different. I realized not far into the trip that the ride was just that--a ride. I was riding through the northern United States in February, and I had time constraints hanging over me from day one. No time to explore side roads or detour to favorite haunts. Just ridin' down the road. The very, very cold road. Not that I didn't enjoy the ride. Far from that--I thoroughly enjoyed every mile of it. Even the cold miles. And the snow miles. And the leaning into the wind...no, wait a minute. I'm not crazy. Dealing with wind in the winter is a far, far different proposition than any other time of the year. Not only do you have to constantly compensate for the gusts, but the wind is like a cold knife trying to find every little crack in your armor. No, I didn't love the wind. But it was to be expected, considering what I had set out to do. So I came to accept it--take it in stride. I was south of Kansas City, heading due south on Hwy. 70 and still surrounded by snow, even though the falling snow had abated to flurries. A car pulled up next to me, the kids in the back waving frantically, and the woman in the front seat held up a hand-lettered sign asking "Are You Cold?" I shook my head in an emphatic "No", and they all applauded. It was all pretty funny. But I really wasn't all that cold. If I had been, I would have stopped riding. Hypothermia just isn't funny. As I had mentioned before, my feet were numb. But other than that I was what I would term comfortably cool. I don't really mind cold weather. Nan and I owned horses in southeastern Wisconsin for a number of years. Anyone who owns horses knows that part of the regimen involves (almost) daily care, including riding. We used to ride in weather that was well below zero. So riding in 30 degree weather really didn't bother me that much. All told, it took 7 days of riding to get to Orlando. 3,600 miles. I averaged about 515 miles a day, and my longest day was 550 miles. Once I got into Arkansas I was back in nice weather, and I really enjoyed the ride across northern Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama. I had a lot of stuff to take care of once I hit Orlando, so the bike sat idle for four days. Got the oil/filter changed due to the good graces of a very nice BP Station owner, and hunted down the only (well, it seemed that way!) Dunlop K177 rear tire and got it installed. But I can't sit around too long without itching to take a ride, so when Friday loomed without much in the way or responsibilities I decided to head down Ft. Myers way and hunt up Vince Santamaria. Unfortunately I chose to take Hwy. 27, which cuts right through the heart of central Florida...and had traffic jams and roadwork on a good deal of its length. I also was unfortunate enough to miss VInce, as he had taken the afternoon off from work. And since I had made plans with my son Todd for that evening, I didn't have the time to hunt down Vince at his house and had to hit the interstate back to Orlando. A little 425-mile jaunt in the Florida countryside! When I talked to Nan that night and mentioned the ride to Ft. Myers, her reply was, "Don't you ever get tired of riding?" Gee...that thought had never crossed my mind! The ride home was fairly uneventful. As opposed to the weather on the ride down, the weather when we left was beautiful. After riding through a few muggy showers in the Florida panhandle, the skies cleared and the winds were not a factor. We stayed along the gulf coast over to New Orleans, and then cut up through Louisiana to Shreveport. From there we went over to Dallas/Fort Worth and angled up through Wichita Falls to Amarillo. I haven't been in Amarillo since we moved away in 1979, and I was amazed at how much it had grown. I barely recognized some of the main streets, but was able to find our way out past our home in Rolling Hills, about 5 miles north of the city. I took some pictures for Nan and we headed west. Nan was at a medical conference in Santa Fe, so we took Hwy. 285 north off of Interstate 40. I'm sure that 285 is probably a very heavily traveled road in the tourist season, but it was 60 miles of total desolation on this trip. No homes, just a few lonely roads winding off to ranches hidden from the road. No facilities or side roads to break its path. And I loved it. Those are the kind of roads that I really love to ride. I was also amazed at how much Santa Fe had grown in the past 20 years. And, to be honest, I'm not sure if I like the change. Of course the "old" Santa Fe hasn't changed at all; still the same narrow donkey-cart streets and old adobe buildings that marked it as the capital of the territory that Mexico once reigned over. But the outlying areas have assumed the same hustle, bustle and rush that marks most cities of any size. Sometimes I hate to see things change. We reviewed the potential routes home while we were in Santa Fe, and determined that our only realistic course was to go straight west to Bakersfield, California, and up I-5 to Portland. I would have preferred cutting northwest up through Nevada on side highways, but the weather north of us was threatening more snow and cold. That route would have also involved having to cross the Sierras or Cascades at some point, and most of the passes were not conducive to either a motorcycle or a car pulling a trailer. Since we were leaving on Thursday at noon, we determined that we would be home by Sunday afternoon if we went through California. But once we hit the road, I think that it became a tacit agreement that we were all tired of staying in motels and eating at Denny's. Traffic was light, except for the stretch in Bakersfield where we had to cut west to I-5. I stopped for a traffic light on a 55-mph stretch of road in Bakersfield because there was a cop sitting on his motorcycle at the intersection, and Todd came sliding up to my rear end, tires smoking. We got a long, hard look from the cop. After we were safely onto I-5, I was cruising along at about 55-mph because cars with trailers are restricted to the double-nickels on California interstates (one of the stupider laws I've seen) when a cop came careening around traffic and pulled behind me with his lights and siren announcing his presence. Since I was doing 15 mph under the speed limit, I had no idea why he was stopping me. And, of course, that was his first question--"Do you know why I stopped you?" (Why do they always ask that?) He proceeded to tell me that he was going south on the other side of the freeway when he saw me passing a car on the right on the shoulder of the road! I told him that I hadn't done that; in fact, I would never do that because it was such a dangerous stunt. To which he replied "I'm 97% sure that I saw you do that", which brought a vigorous protest from me once again. Then he upped the ante to "I'm 98% sure that you passed that car on the shoulder. Are you traveling with the car pulling the U-Haul trailer?" Once again I pointed out that I hadn't done it, when he raised the bid to "I'm 99% sure...did you do it to communicate with them?" I was getting disgusted at this time and said, "Why don't you go ask them? They're stopped right in front of us." He backed off then and said "Well, since I'm not 100% sure, I can't write you up. So, have a good trip." Jeez... When we reached Sacramento I checked with Todd and found that he was still feeling good, so we decided to stop somewhere north of Sacramento for the night. After I passed two likely motels about two hours north of there, Todd and Nan decided to take the lead since it looked like I was in for the long haul and they were getting tired. Wimps! They got off in Red Bluff, where we bunked at a Motel 6 (Motel 6's don't mind little creatures like Todd's kitty). When I totaled it up, I realized that I had ridden 760 miles that day. Not bad. We pulled into Portland at 6pm Saturday night, 3,575 miles after leaving Orlando. We had averaged 595 miles a day for the 6 day trip, with the previous day's 760 miles being the longest. The weather had been gorgeous all the way across, with moderate temperatures, sunny skies, and little or no wind to deal with. Since I had followed Todd most of the way and had to adjust my speed to his, we had been averaging 65-70 mph for the whole trip (except for California!). Keeping my speed within his limits gave me an incredible average of 53 mpg for the 3,575 miles! I went 195 miles on a tank of gas twice. On another leg of the trip I went 210 miles before a fill ...and I still had .6 gallon left! As for the StealthMobile...what can I say? I had absolutely ZERO problems with the bike on a 7,800 mile trip that ranged from riding in rain and snow to crossing 7,700-foot passes in the Rockies and riding for days on end in temperatures that never saw 40 degrees. (Do I get to be a member of the 12-month club? Even though it "only" rains in Portland?) (Snicker, snicker!). I averaged over 550 miles/day for the duration of the entire trip and didn't use a drop of oil or hear a single misfire. Once again, as I had discovered on the 4,400-mile Motorcycle Therapy trip last May, the bike performed so dependably that I didn't have to concentrate on the motorcycle and could concentrate on the ride. I challenged myself with a ride across country in the dead of winter and...except for the Great Lakes portion of the ride which I regrettably had to pass on...I did everything I wanted to do. Is the PC a good touring bike? Damn right it is! I've got a stock windshield and a stock seat and my 50-year-old butt wasn't even sore! And, above all, I had fun. After all, that's what it's all about. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--45,800 and Riding ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 13 Mar 97 07:07:58 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@CompuServe.COM> To: Jim Alexander <73373.2113@CompuServe.COM> Cc: David Allen , "John H. Anderson, Jr." <71514.612@CompuServe.COM>, Ben Bennett <75557.2550@CompuServe.COM>, John Castagna , George Catt , "Robert D. Chappuis" <73142.724@CompuServe.COM>, Keith Danielson , Mel Downing , Alex Dudley , Mike Dupuis , Randy Foster , Andrew Goldfine <74544.323@CompuServe.COM>, Dave Gorham <74734.1464@CompuServe.COM>, Dave & Jo Hamilton , Chuck Headrick , Glenn & Merry Hodges , HondaPacificCoastOwners , Steve Johnson , Joe & Donna Kendall , Dave Lawson <75567.3132@CompuServe.COM>, HSTA Postings to List , Ron Maudlin <74726.2016@CompuServe.COM>, Bill McGrath , Brad & Cinda Mobley <76241.1063@CompuServe.COM>, Mike Morris <76401.1325@CompuServe.COM>, Tom & Barbara Murphy , Michael Nixon , "Samuel \"Todd\" Nunnally" <72064.2771@CompuServe.COM>, Dane Parish , "Donald L. \"Moose\" Parish" <73523.3636@CompuServe.COM>, Elliot Parsowith , Jim Petersen <75127.1761@CompuServe.COM>, "Roger Prince @ceo" , "Roger Prince @hotmail" , "Roger Prince @Juno" , "Roger Prince @webo" , "Roger Prince@mceo" , "Juan R. Quinton, Jr." , "Terry J. Roberts" , Steve Rodnon , Laura Sawyer , Fred Schmidt , Danny Gordon & Sheri , Elbert Silbaugh , Kathy Storin , Jim Strudwick , Mike Traynor , Jim & Linda Vance <76062.3667@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Soon-To-Be Dr. Laura Sawyer! For those of you that know Laura, our youngest daughter (an HSTA member and owner of a pink-and-white 1987 CBR 600 Hurricane), here's an update. She is completing her dissertation at present and expects by May to have satisfied all requirements for a doctor's degree in Sport Management at the University of Northern Colorado. Just recently she was offered (and accepted) a tenure-track position as Professor of Sport Management at James Madison University, Harrisonburg, Virginia. She will begin her work there in August, and will receive her degree August 9th back at UNC. And, yes...she does plan to have her bike with her in Virginia! She'll be too close to some great riding roads not to have it there! She is flying home today from Colorado to be with us for a week during her spring break. Laura received her undergraduate degree at the University of South Carolina, her Master's degree at Georgia Southern University, and completed her first year toward her doctorate at Florida State University before transferring to UNC to complete her doctoral requirements. She has been published in numerous national publications and, among other things, is a Certified Personal Trainer. Depending upon her summer schedule, she may ride with me to STAR '97 in Oklahoma. If you haven't already figured it out, Mom and I are rather proud of Laura! Dana & Lynn Sawyer ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Tim Macy.... is THE man. Great job, Tim. Alan '89 PC800 '94 XV535 (The Better Half's) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:42:28 -0900 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Motorcycle Madness Date: 13 Mar 97 10:35:59 KST Great story, Tim, makes me want to drive my bike on the ferry and get the heck out of Dodge. It's the pits being land- and water-locked. Oh well, some day (sigh!) Jo Ruby Juneau, AK '94 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:28:29 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Tim M. To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Tim, your story was just fantastic. I read your two stories with such interest. You are like the men and women who climb the heights of great mountains. I say this because of my experience in Wyoming. I have ridden those roads in the middle of winter. You have thrown kerosene on the flame that makes me want to adventure ride. And I am not talking about my trip this summer to Americade. I think it is time to stop thinking about it, and get a Dual Sport and ride the length of Baja. You are an inspiration, Tim. No, you are the king. You are Elvis! VIVA MCs! Chris Klass ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ptowne@northnet.org Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:51:18 EST On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:03:05 -0500 Philip Towne writes: >I am interested in purchasing a Pc and wondering if this bike is good >for around Town? I Live in upstate NY, any good use bikes in my area. Do bears crap in the woods? for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:11:33 -0800 id Megw.3166357 ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:10:55 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:37:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: FIRST RIDE OF THE YEAR To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I thought over the winter that I'd sell the PC this spring and get a used ST1100. I got spring fever last weekend, got up to 60 around here, so even though the roads still have the remnates of winter - sand/gravel, I took the bike out. I rode it for 5 days straight, just to work and stuff not an adventure. Now I feel like they can take my PC away from me when they can pry my fingers off of it. I missed my own ride and forgot how much I like riding it. You'd think I'd be the expert on how my bike rides but I swear I forgot over the winter. I love the noise and feel when you accelerate and go through the gears. Its 20 below wind chill now, so I'm slapped back to reality and the bike is back in the garage. I still want a st1100, hard to find one with abs and not a fortune. I'm lurking on their newslist, seems that the bike needs the riser handelbars and taller windshield for me. The pc is so smooth, dam preaching to the choir again. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA26553 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:27:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:27:42 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Giving credit Re: my recent post about my accident, I just wanted to add that several people helped me. Richard Hardy made sure I was okay, exchanged info with the other guy and took pictures. He was my brain that day. Tim Shevlin rode to a phone and later gave me a ride home. Bob Davis and Karen helped with the debris and made sure I had a ride before leaving. These folks are all members of the HSTA and I want to publicly thank them for helping me, staying around for hours, and generally going out of their way to make sure I was okay. Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:09:16 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: mskrocki@meldrum.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Tour & Travel mskrocki@meldrum.com wrote: > > Thought I'd mention that in the latest issue of Motorcycle Tour & Travel (May > 1997) there is an article about touring in Virginia's Southwest (Page 34) that > features pictures that include an 1989 Pacific Coast. Just thought you all might > like to know. Don't know this periodical (Motorcycle Tour & Travel) but sounds like I would like to. Could you e-mail the subscription information to me please? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1989 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable" 36,000 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 18:42:17 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu, "Paul Hayes" , owner-pc800@hpc.uh.e.du Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: 4 more used PC800's; 6 used ST100s; unknown locations The following are additional listings out of Cycle Trader: Someone let me know if it is unethical or unlawfull to repost a listing like this and I'll stop. Thanx. - pauly ========= 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST - 60 mpg, 22k mi, $4500, 602-830-2009. 1990 HONDA Pacific Coast, 6500 miles, red and silver, extended windshield, cover, helmet, $4300 obo, Steve Suissa, work 404-730-5130 after 4 pm, pager 404-716-4241. 1994 HONDA PC 800, pacific coast light blue/gray, tall wide windshield, like new cond., back rest, easy handling, sport touring, bike storage under seat, 5500 mi., $5995 obo, 205-350-7039 or 205-355-6633. 1996 HONDA Pacific Coast 800, red, like new cond., still under transferable warranty, will deliver w/in 300 miles, was $8600 new, will sell for $5900 obo, 912-382-6139. Honda ST1100s: ============ 1991, Honda , ST1100, 5000, This bike is in excellent shape. It has a Corbin Rumble seat, integrated J&M CB radio, custom pinstiping, polished aluminum wheels and kick panels, 35,500mi, orig. owner. The oil never had a chance to get dirty. This is a very unique ST! email: ragtyme@primenet.com, (520) 342-5889 1991, ST1100, CYCLE, asking $5895, Stock# 0853, SUN HONDA, (303)-287-7566. 1991 HONDA ST1100, rare silver color, perfect cond., easy finan., apply by phone, #36421M, $7299, Trades welcome, Barber Honda, dlr., 805-642-0276 1993 HONDA ST1100 - 22K mi, collision damage, $1750, BOB'S USED MOTORCYCLE PARTS, 1325 E Elwood, Phoenix, 602-437-3148. 1995 HONDA ST1100, 9100 mi., two Bros. exh., backrest, well maint., super clean, $8700, days 954-846-8300 Bill or Larry, eve./wknd. 954-389-3436. 1996 HONDA ST1100, corbin seat, Heli bars, garage kept, this bike is in mint cond., $9295, call eves. after 6pm, 954-581-7725. -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu On Behalf Of Paul Hayes Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 11:25 AM To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Eleven PC800's for sale: ============ 1989 HONDA Pacific Coast, clean, low mi., well maint., $4695 obo, 407-294-6864, Orlando, dlr. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC coast, pearl white, great cond, sporty to ride, runs like new w/only 5500 mi, sell new for $8500. This one only $3750. 541-327-3542. Jefferson, Or 1989 HONDA Pacific Coast 800cc, dual back res, 21K, brand new tires, wide trunk space, pin striping new, almost brand new, garage kept, $4999, call Julio Lapon II, wk. 305-558-7415 or beep 305-859-3817. 1990 HONDA Pacific Coast, 10,000 miles, excellent shape, cover, extra windshield, loaded, red, asking $4500; GREENVILLE, PA (412)588-4170 1990 Honda Pacific Coast, EC, $3900 (910)625-3776 ASHEBORO 1990, HONDA, PC800, asking $4299,, (313)-278-5000. 1990 HONDA PACIFIC COAST, purchased new in '93, exc. cond., 10K mi., candy apple red, orig. fact. color, $4895 obo, 210-553-2300 pgr., 210-340-1198 hm. 1994 Honda Pacific Coast 800 cc, black & silver, cb, corbin seat, rear spoiler, tall windshield, also included is stock seat and windshield, always garaged, serviced, 23K, EC, $4800 (910)679-8031 YADKINVILLE NC 1994 1/2 Honda Pacific Coast, 5800 miles, black, original 5yr warranty transferable, EC, $7500 new, now $4950; (614)451-9290 COLUMBUS 1995 HONDA Pacific Coast, 800cc, low maint., shaft drive, like new, 4k mi., $5950, great deal, call 408-739-2318 1996 HONDA PC800, Pacific Coast showroom bike, must see, contact James to make arrangements, to see the bike, $6000,, 310-326-7468 ============ WANTED, good clean Honda PC800, Pacific Coasts, also ST1100 and GL1500, page for immediate cash, quote wanted your Pacific Coast now. Pgr. 904-238-9434. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA02004; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:03:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:03:48 -0500 (EST) To: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: St. Louis Motocycle Show. A friend and I are going over the St. Louis Motorcycle show tomorrow. Is anyone else going? Bernie ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:50:42 -0500 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: Re: Italian Style To: PC800 List > << With the occasion we send our Best regards. >The Italians apparently have a rather flowery style of >formal business writing that is a special art for them. You know, it's funny. Italian was my first language. And even though I've spoken English since I was six, when I read or speak Italian I fall back into what I call the Italian style of thinking. That flowery closing phrase in the GiVi letter was no doubt trans-literated directly from the Italian. While the words have been properly translated, the phrase sounds appropriate and not at all flowery in Italian, but completely pretentious and contrived in our modern "just-the-facts-ma'am" English. Funny. Sorry for wandering off topic! Steve Schibuola. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:22:05 +0100 From: Ascon de Vries To: PC800 List Subject: not stolen (yet) When I woke up this morning and opened my curtains it was'nt there anymore. My PC was GONE !!!! My heart misfired a couple of times, then I started my investigation. I went outside and found my beloved PC infront of the garagedoor of my neighbours. The contactlock as well as the steeringlock are completely missing. Some damage on the crashbars as well. I guess the thieves have been disturbed because my PC was standing there, completely ready to take away. I am very very very very very angry at the guys who did this to me but that won't solve anything. Main problem now is to be able to ride again ASAP. Got some questions for you, PC-wizzards. 1- How do I start the engine with the contactlock completely gone ? 2- Does anyone know the app costs to replace the lock (as well as the one on the airfiltercover) ? 3- I think they will come back to finish the job. What is the meanest trick I can lay on them ? (thought of loosening the frontwheel or sabotaging the brakes) Regards to all, Ascon de Vries ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 08:46:28 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: PC800 Mail List Subject: PC800 Web Page Is the PC800 web page dead? It's a long time since it was updated. Are you still with us, Neill? Roger Prince ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:46:04, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Corbin Seat Wanted Wanted Corbin Driver Seat in Good condition. Anyone have a Corbin Seat for Sale? I don't plan on replacing the passenger seat, as I ride alone, so before I order - any suggestions? Thanks for your help. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:32:38 +0100 (MET) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: PCN pages To all listers, Next month I am planning on a update on our Dutch pages, new pictures, more FAQ, new MOD's ect. and a completly new page design. But I am looking for new material to put on, pictures, story's, FAQ, Mod's, if you got any and you want it to place on our pages let me know. My email address: pcn@dsv.nl There will be a message to the list announcing the update. Our site will allways be dynamic. Thank you for your input. Gerard Diepeveen, Pacific Coast Netherlands --------------------------------00--------------------- Gerard Diepeveen '89 White Pacific Coast Netherlands E-Mail: pcn@dsv.nl or gerard@dsv.nl O-PC-O:-) "May the Pacific Coast be with you" Visit the Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA26897 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:05:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:05:26 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Replacement (2) One more bike to ask about: Honda VF500 (little 4 cylinder sport bike from the mid 80s). I've always liked the way it looked, but I've never ridden one. Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:07:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:07:32 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: IL meeting/ride Hi All, The first official meeting/ride of 1997 will happen this coming Sunday, March 23rd at Downers Grove Honda @ 10AM. Only weather extreme's (temps below 30 degrees, HARD rain, or snow on the streets) will keep ME from going. If you would like, check your mail before you go, because I will send an e-mail just before I leave. My number is 773-235-0933. Please call your fellow riders wo aren't cyber ready and lets get it goin'. Downers Grove is about 20 miles West/SouthWest of Chicago. You get there via 355 or 290 to 80 West. Better directions to follow but PLAN TO BE THERE !!! Please. Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:02:49 -0600 From: aperez To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Picked UP 94 PC Big "Z" Went to Statesboro Georgia and picked up my 1994 PC. Like I said, the package came with a buggy, hitch and gauges. I am very very very please what I bought. If you go to the Downer Grove Honda ride this comming Sunday, March 23, I will be there to ride, meet you and show you the cycle. I live about 2 blocks from the Honda shop and I personally know Pat, the motorcycle mechanic, for over 15 years. What impressed me the most of the PC add ons was the hitch. The hitch was made by a machine shop professor and its a bolt on unit. The design is proven for several years. The ball hitch plate bolts off so you could remove the rear tire easily. I am thinking of making and selling them for $125.00. The unit will come complete with bracket, electric for a conventional 4 prong trailer, misc hardware, and instructions. Before I do such a venture, I would like to know how much interest is there for such item. Your point of view or opinion is appreciated. Abbey (37 years riding iron horses in CHITOWN) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "Cem Erdem" , "'TRA1966@aol.com'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: Re: Looking for PC 800 '95-'96 (fwd) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:23:08 -0500 I would not be concerned about the lack of use and low mileage. Change all the fluids and ride the hell out of it. I bought a 1990 PC with 8k miles last year ( my second PC) and it has been wonderful for 9K . tHERE IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANY OF THE PC'S. Maybe that explains the price? Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:21:40 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Replacement (2) To: JeffHamltn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu The 500 is too small. Won't hold two riders. Very skinny tires. And for the price, why not get the 700 or 750? Or for that matter check out the Yamaha FJ 1100 - 1200. Don't be put of by the size. It is an excellent touring bike. If you want more info let me know. I have a ton of it from the web and Moto Consumer News. Chris Klass ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "Rusty Jackson" , "'PC 800 Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Dash for a 90 PC Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:54:04 -0500 I am looking for the same thing. I just sold the radio out of my PC to a guy with a Helix. Does anyone who needs speakers want to swap dashes? Mine has some very high quality speakers in it ( a 1990 PC). Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: Replacement (2) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:13:29 -0500 Nothing wrong with a 500cc bike. I just rode one( 1982 Silverwing) to Panama with a group (4000 + miles) over very rough roads. Most people in the group had big bikes ie. Goldwings, Hogs, BMW's. Also most agreed that I had the best size bike for the trip. A 500 will run just fine. Just need to wind her up a little. I also rode a 250 to Belize thru Mexico just fine. YOU WILL MISS YOUR PC. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:17:33 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Replacement (2) To: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us (Vince Santamaria) Cc: JeffHamltn@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu I agree with Vince that a 500 would be fine. I have riden a Silverwing and really liked it. It is an excellent bike. But the VF500 is not a touring bike at all. It is samll, very lite, narrow seat, skinny tires. The silver wing is actually a good aption. I would bet they are pretty cheap. Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:48:57 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Archives I feel REAL stupid. I cannot for the life of me find the address for the archives. I know it's in the sign-up message but that's gone to the same place that the other sock in the dryer goes. Can anybody help? I want to print out stuff on tires, GIVI boxes, and Rifle Windshields (let's NOT start that again);) I will also this time print the archive address and store it in my hard files. Thanks. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1989 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable" 36,000 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:45:53 -0500 (EST) From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Tenzo Driving lights.... This note is to the group, but at the end is a question for Phil Lewis. I'm pretty sure it was Phil that got me in touch with Jeff Knights. The guy who works on my bike installed these lights last week. He placed them on top of the front crash bars. The switch he located just below the left storage area on the panel, thus making it easy to hit without letting go of the throttle. He was very impressed with the quality of the lights and their brightness. So much so that he suggested oncoming traffic might not take too kindly to getting hit in the eyes, and that perhaps they should be angled somewhat towards the sides vs. the front. I would appreciate any and all opinions on this. They are not yet "stuck" on, so they can be moved. Question for Phil: How do you have yours aimed? He also suggested slightly angling the right one out towards the berm so I could better keep an eye on what's happening there. For those of you who may have missed it, Jeff Knights address is: 13321 Vines Rd., Kearney, MO., 64060. At $64 plus $5 shipping I was VERY pleased. Also, the Throttlemeister has been installed. While I haven't used it yet I am impressed with the quality of the workmanship. As I am with the GIVI top box put on. Very nice piece of equipment. We splurged. C'mon Spring! Alan '89 PC800 '94 XV535 (altho considering a trade to XV750!) (The Better Half's) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:11:36 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: "Alan D. Smith" CC: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Tenzo Driving lights.... Alan D. Smith wrote: > > This note is to the group, but at the end is a question for Phil > Lewis. I'm pretty sure it was Phil that got me in touch with > Jeff Knights. > > He was very impressed with the quality of the lights and their > brightness. So much so that he suggested oncoming traffic might > not take too kindly to getting hit in the eyes, and that perhaps > they should be angled somewhat towards the sides vs. the front. > I would appreciate any and all opinions on this. They are not > yet "stuck" on, so they can be moved. > > Question for Phil: How do you have yours aimed? He also suggested > slightly angling the right one out towards the berm so I could > better keep an eye on what's happening there. Hi Alan! I have my lights aimed so that the beams just start to touch each other at about 20ft to 30ft forward. I didn't do any exact measuring, I just put the bike on the stand and then aimed them so that they would merge at a comfortable distance. The beams spread out nicely and I have light that is at least 1 1/2 times the width of a normal lane, if not more. As for being in drivers eyes, on the last ride that we took together, I dropped back to the rear of our pack, and our other riders said that the lights were very visible, but were not directly in their eyes. So far, I have not had any "cagers" flash their high-beams at me while I've been oncoming on one of our unlit roads here, so I'd have to say that the aiming is O.K. Once you've got the horizontal done, you can, of course, always play with the vertical aim. One other thing, if you haven't read my notes on http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/AMINSTAL.HTM, I do recommend having your Tenzo's off when at idle rpm, because of Battery discharge. I'm sure everyone who tries them will enjoy them. Take care, Phil P.S.- This was not a paid advertisement!! :) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "PC800" Subject: Corbin Seat For Sale Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:59:49 -0500 I would like to sell my Corbin seat off my 1990 PC. The seat is in like new condition. Color gray with red edging. Includes passenger backrest. Cost new $448 list. Sell $350 obo. Could ship or deliver at Honda Hoot in June. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Archives From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:25:59 -0600 Lines: 15 >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: SAC> I feel REAL stupid. I cannot for the life of me find the address for SAC> the archives. Well, at the bottom of every message is a URL. Going there, clicking on "List server information" and clicking on "Archive search engine" will do wonders. If you want to go direct, it's rather easily derived from the address of the mailing list: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800. I'm beginning to wonder if I should reference another page in the footer. The one at AOL doesn't seem to be maintained much any more (and I'd like for the archives to be more prominently featured). - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:25:27 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Replacement (2) CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > Or for that matter check out the Yamaha FJ > 1100 - 1200. A friend of mine has an FJ1200. We swapped bikes on a ride once. The riding position and very buzzy engine had my throttle hand literally in pain in less than 10 miles. Also, no ground clearance compared to the PC. I scraped the pegs and boots at relatively conservative lean angles and sedate speed. It also doesn't like stop & go city traffic and *will* overheat. Had the Honda ACE 1100 Touring model been available when I was looking at the PC I probably would have went for the ACE. They went back to a dual pin crankshaft (Smooth like the PC) and retuned for more HP, unlike the standard ACE which can barely get out of it's own way. My humble .02... ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:40:44 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Archives Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > I'm beginning to wonder if I should reference another page in the footer. > The one at AOL doesn't seem to be maintained much any more (and I'd like > for the archives to be more prominently featured). Perhaps a dedicated web page with just a listing of the monthly archives which would be available for FTP download. Maybe include one file which contains *All* the archives for those who either have a lot of time for long downloads or perhaps have an ISDN connection. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: KANDJCS@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 tires From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:41:22 EST GENTLEMEN & LADIES OF THE NET, THESE TIDBITS, SUCH AS THIS LETTER TELLING OF THE WONDERS AND SPECIAL TALENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR METZELER TIRE ARE EXCELLENT THINGS TO PRINT OUT AND KEEP. I HAVE ESTABLISHED A FILE FOR THESE SORTS OF TIDBITS FOR MY INDIAN CALLED "INDIAN LORE." TONITE I WILL START ONE CALLED HONDA TIPS AND URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME. NEXT SET, METZELER. On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:46:15 -0500 (EST) KANDJCS@aol.com writes: >My '89 PC rides on METZELER ML2 tires on both front and rear. >I LOVE THEM! >I've had K555's and K177's on the bike and they don't compare. The >best part >about the ML2 is that there is no center groove in the tread. This >means the >bike doesn't shimmy over grooved surfaces or drawbridge grates. >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:53:33 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Rocky Rochambeau CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800 tires Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > GENTLEMEN & LADIES OF THE NET,... I can't imagine why he'd be yelling at me, so it must be someone else he's mad at... ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Gary E. Klim" Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Archives From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 17 Mar 1997 18:49:40 -0600 Lines: 20 >>>>> "GEK" == Gary E Klim writes: GEK> Perhaps a dedicated web page with just a listing of the monthly GEK> archives which would be available for FTP download. Why a dedicated page? ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/pc800/list-archive should work just fine. People too often forget that there are better ways to serve files than the web. This _is_ detailed in the introductory document. GEK> Maybe include one file which contains *All* the archives for those who GEK> either have a lot of time for long downloads or perhaps have an ISDN GEK> connection. Are you planning to donate a disk to me to hold it all? Separate files are good enough; if you're not using a cheezy web browser to do your FTP, you can slurp an entire directory with a couple of clicks. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:16:29 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Help! A while back one of the list members talked about having his mechanic re-do a weld job in the rear suspension area of his PC. I was sure I saved the message but I did not. I also tried finding the thread in the archives, to no avail. I tried: weld, welding, noise, rear suspension, shop... whew! I ran out of options and found zip. Can anyone help me (especially the gentleman that wrote the aformentioned message)? I need to ask the name of his dealer/mechanic so my mechanic can get in touch with him. There doesn't seem to be a service bulletin regarding rear suspension or noises in the suspension area. Thanks! Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:15:13 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "Gary E. Klim" Cc: Jason L Tibbitts III , PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Archives Gary E. Klim wrote: > > Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > I'm beginning to wonder if I should reference another page in the footer. > > The one at AOL doesn't seem to be maintained much any more (and I'd like > > for the archives to be more prominently featured). > > Perhaps a dedicated web page with just a listing of the monthly archives > which would be available for FTP download. Maybe include one file which > contains *All* the archives for those who either have a lot of time for > long downloads or perhaps have an ISDN connection. > > gk > What about the search engine? Would we lose that? A long time back one of the Gross brothers had some ideas for updating the PC800 page. What happened to that? Is Neill still on the list? Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:17:40 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Archives Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Why a dedicated page? My vision was of a web page other than the somewhat "stale" PC web site that would *point* to the FTP server. It should contain enough keywords to allow someone new to the net to easily locate us, then point them in the direction of the archives and how to join the list. That form of a page would act as a "sign post" and would not require periodic updating as its' sole purpose is to act as a gateway to the collective dynamic wisdom of the list itself. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Pricing From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:14:22 EST With all the attention paid to pricing I am now wondering if they charge too much in the D.C. metro area for the PC800. We paid $9400 in April of 1996. Did we pay too much? Thank you for your taking a moment to answer the above. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA15227 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:45:46 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Exhausted Anyone ever try an aftermarket exhaust for a PC? Just curious if there is anything on the market that can let a touch of the PC's character come through just a little. I'm not looking for racket, just a little something to help it sound like something other than a golf cart. I keep thinking that the engine should stop running everytime I come to a red light, then restart as soon as I twist the throttle. Just wondering. (the bike is for sale, so the point is perhaps moot) ET ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com Cc: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Archives From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:08:50 -0600 Lines: 11 >>>>> "RP" == Roger Prince writes: RP> What about the search engine? Would we lose that? Why would you lose the search engine? I run it on my machines, but I think it better to put a more full-featured page in the message footer and have that provide a link to the archives. You can always bookmark the search engine yourself. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:41:34 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Help! Juan A. Goula wrote: > > A while back one of the list members talked about having his mechanic re-do > a weld job in the rear suspension area of his PC. I was sure I saved the > message but I did not. I also tried finding the thread in the archives, to > no avail. I tried: weld, welding, noise, rear suspension, shop... whew! I > ran out of options and found zip. Can anyone help me (especially the > gentleman that wrote the aformentioned message)? I need to ask the name of > his dealer/mechanic so my mechanic can get in touch with him. There doesn't > seem to be a service bulletin regarding rear suspension or noises in the > suspension area. Thanks! > Is this it? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com PC800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:10:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:10:51 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: New Member... Okay...here's all the personal info: Name: Tim Adams Location: Morton, IL E-mail: TRA1966@AOL.COM PC Model Year: 1989 Bought Used/New: Used (had 17,9xx miles when purchased from Niehaus Cycle Sales in Litchfield, IL in August of 1996.) Modifications made to bike: The bike has had some mods made to it before I bought it. Specifically, it has the Hondaline (Kenwood) radio with the controls mounted on the bar, and the factory passenger backrest. Hopefully before winter is over, there will be a trunk light kit installed. Experience notes: The dealer had to do some work on a noise that was coming from the rear of the bike in the suspension area. I didn't get all the details on the fix, but it involved welding something that wasn't welded properly at the factory. I had to replace the nitrogen gas pressurized shock/strut that holds the trunk lid open. And...in September, I had to replace the front and rear crash protectors, and the mirror, all on the left side...after sliding seven feet on the oil-and-chip road (10 feet from my own driveway). This was the third PC800 that I had looked at. The first is still for sale, and has been since last April of '96. The owner didn't take my original offer of $3500 for his 20,xxx mile '89 model that had a Corbin seat and the wider windshield. He wanted $4500. It's now listed in the local paper for $3500. The second bike was an '89 with the radio, and the owner still wants $5600 for it (with 20,xxx plus miles). Of note, I rode the first one, and looked it over very carefully. It had duct tape over a hole in the trunk, on the inner panel on the left side. The one I bought has an aluminum plate riveted to the same panel in about the same area. The dealer didn't know anything about this. The bike has almost 21,xxx miles on it now, and I love it. I'm really hating this winter weather, as the last time I rode was the first week in November. ---Tim I must have forgotten how to use the archive search engine from the web page or it is broken. I tried searching for welding in the 9612 archive and it wasn't found. I found this in a copy of the archives I have on my propietary system. What am I doing wrong in using the search engine? It wouldn't find "juan" either. Roger by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA24904; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:01:33 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:01:33 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: Pricing To: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >With all the attention paid to pricing I am now wondering if they charge >too much in the D.C. metro area for the PC800. > >We paid $9400 in April of 1996. Did we pay too much? > YES, you paid too much. List price of the '96 was $8,599, and they were readily available most places for up to $1,000 less than that. Of course, you must add tax and license, which can be $1,000. Even if your $9,400 is all-in, you didn't get enough discount off the list. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Help! From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 17 Mar 1997 22:58:57 -0600 Lines: 9 >>>>> "RP" == Roger Prince writes: RP> I tried searching for welding in the 9612 archive and it wasn't found. Looks like I need to rebuild the indices. I think, in fact, that I'll go ahead and rebuild all of the archives. I've been meaning to upgrade all of that software anyway. If only it didn't take so long... - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:08:53 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: The Gross Brothers? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > A simple rejetting will do wonders for the FJ overheating problem. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:55:40 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS Cc: Rocky Rochambeau , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Pricing CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > > > > Ouch! I paid $7200 for my 95 in April 96. > I paid $6700 for my '95 in July 1995. New - in the crate. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:07:07 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another daring >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" "One brother held police at bay by drinking melted lard, the other extorted money from tellers by rubbing his body with raw liver." -- Daniel MacKay Daniel.MacKay@Dal.Ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:15:23 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Pricing To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com (Roger Prince) Cc: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau), pc800@hpc.uh.edu CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > > > > Ouch! I paid $7200 for my 95 in April 96. > To: Harrison Spain <_spain@edsug.com> CC: ericeric@concentric.net, greg501@ix.netcom.com, _spain@edsug.com, jlai@filenet.com, johnl@general.net, MNCTOO@aol.com, Mikietoo@HoTMail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, PILEWIS1@concentric.net, "Russell C. Jackson" , 73414.466@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Next Ride of SCPCRC Harrison Spain wrote: > > Please do map out a route. Sounds like you really know the nice spots. > Now, what is beach that Phil keeps talking about? ;-) OK I have the route in development. We'll meet in the PARKING LOT of Marie Calendar's rather than inside so we won't start eating just before we go to a picnic. Rusty: no muffeleta for me please. I'm taking my months allotment of grease in KFC form I don't want heartburn on top of it.;) I'll (Steve C.) dibs the cole slaw and another salad. (its a secret...but good.) Will anybody vouch for drinks, other items? Group: Black's Beach is the nude beach (the people not the sand) below the cliffs @ Torrey Pines. I'll plan to stop at the gliderport there, which is fun. There are several points to remember: 1. Most of the nude beach is below the cliffs below Torey Pines Golf Course, north of where we'll be stopping. 2.You can't see much beach activity anyway from the tops of the cliffs(~300'). 3. To get to the beach you have to CLIMB down the cliffs north of the golf course and walk south! 4.To reduce public nausea, most of the people who do nude sunbathing there really should keep their clothes on. >|Q Lotsa retired folk around here. You'll note in my sig block a change (if anybody reads the sig blocks in these messages) from Able Mable my 1989 PC 800 with nearly 37,000 miles on the odometer to the new and Improved! ABLE MABLE II. Yes folks! In response to my need for reliable commuting transportation (A.M.1 was leaking oil and had thin tread), our intent to do some serious motorcycle touring, and the coincidental timing of my upcoming birthday (5 April), we have purchased a brand new 1996 Honda Pacific Coast 800 with full factory warranty. $7199+tax,lic,doc. Plus they threw in a shop manual and tank bag to boot. I'm transfering over my Rifle 22" windshield as the stock one is tiny for me. I also plan to buy an new 24" top to use on this base (Rifle's are two piece), a GIVI carrier, a headlight modulator, and eventually some CaliforNeon stripes. Other mods in mind are: trailer hitch with trailer, LED bar brake lights, air horns, and tap my radio into the PC's power. In due time, in due time. This also means during the April SCPCRC trip the bike will still be in break-in. No 75mph freeway legs are planned. Oh and thanks to everybody and their second cousin for providing the archive address. I feel SOOO stupid. Now where was that archived article on mounting tank bags... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 38 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:54:00 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: Harrison Spain <_spain@edsug.com>, ericeric@concentric.net, greg501@ix.netcom.com, johnl@general.net, MNCTOO@aol.com, Mikietoo@HoTMail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, PILEWIS1@concentric.net, "Russell C. Jackson" , 73414.466@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Next Ride of SCPCRC Hey Steve! Congrats on a new addition! I'm sure we all wish we had $7K lying around :) Heck, if I had an extra $4000 I'd get a "Cassie II" too :) On an unrelated note, I've discovered a company called USA.NET. Their business is advertiser supported so email is free for all subscribers. The idea is that you have people send mail to you@usa.net and it'll forward to where you're really at. That way if you change jobs or ISP, all you have to do is tell USA.NET a different address to forward to. I'm sure there are drawbacks other than having to see advertisements. The only one that I can find so far is that their web site is rather slow so you have to be patient in making changes. On the other hand, I've tested the mail delivery times and there doesn't seem to be a delay at all. I've decided to give that a try so now johanlai@usa.net will forward mail to jlai@filenet.com. Go ahead and change your address books to my new address. I'd be perfectly happy to be a gunea pig so if you want to check on me later, I'll give you feedback. We now return you to our regularly schedule work hour.... Johan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Smcavin@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA18943 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:54:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:54:47 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Pricing In a message dated 97-03-18 10:56:19 EST, you write: << > > > Ouch! I paid $7200 for my 95 in April 96. > > Wow - I paid $2,999,567.00 for my '94 PC and thought I stole it. Boy things are expensive in Chicago. Must be the taxes. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:02:20 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Oooops!! Sorry about that. I didn't see the return address list. Didn't mean to spam the list about the email company. I meant to send to the local group here. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: play on thru From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:08:37 EST "Most of the nude beach is below the cliffs below Torey Pines Golf Course" Steve, When playing Torey Pines is the beach "out of bounds" or do you remove clothing and play on thru? Mike Larson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:15:11 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: rochambeau@juno.com Subject: Re: Pricing Roger Prince wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 38 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Ed Johnson" To: Subject: Best Dealer in the Bay Area Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:19:50 -0800 I'm interesting in buying a PC800 in the next couple of months. Can anyone recommend the best dealership to work with in the San Francisco Bay area. Thanks Ed Johnson Berzerkeley CA esj@sprynet.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:26:36 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Smcavin@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Pricing > Wow - I paid $2,999,567.00 for my '94 PC and thought I stole it. Boy things > are expensive in Chicago. > > Must be the taxes. Lire or rubles? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:41:33 PST From: "Erin Dolin" To: esj@sprynet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Best Dealer in the Bay Area REPLY TO 03/18/97 10:16 FROM esj@sprynet.com "Ed Johnson": PC800: Best Dealer in the Bay Area Ed, You can't go wrong with Honda in Milpitas. Great bunch of people. I bought my '95 from Redwood City Honda and they were nice too, but no where near the service as Milpitas. They're the only two I've had to deal with. Erin in Mountain View ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: esj@sprynet.com cc: PC800(PC800@HPC.UH.EDU) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: cscales@haywire.csuhayward.edu Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:52:13 -0800 (PST) To: Ed Johnson Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Best Dealer in the Bay Area oakland honda has a red '97 in their showroom...I've had good experiences when I've been there. chris ================== ================================= '89 Pacific Coast & 2 Cats to go!= =================================== ==================================== ===================================== ====================================== |:-)>=================================== On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Ed Johnson wrote: > I'm interesting in buying a PC800 in the next couple of months. Can anyone > recommend the best dealership to work with in the San Francisco Bay area. > > Thanks > > Ed Johnson > Berzerkeley CA > esj@sprynet.com > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:16:10 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Where are these things? Awright guys! I admit I'm not the most computer literate person on the planet but my eyes are going blind scrolling through the last several months of archives and the search engine does not recognize "Rifle" or "Cycle Design". The Rifle website address I found just hooks you up to a website design-group page that has Rifle as a customer. I want to purchase a 24" Rifle windshield top (I have the base) from Cycle Design and I cannot find the Phone Number. HELP! please? -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 38 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:24:10 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Problem? At 01:55 PM 3/18/97 -0500, Roger Prince wrote: >Are you experiencing a problem? Not a problem per se, more of an annoyance. Everytime I roll over a short, sharp edged bump (like a bridge expansion joint) I get this "clunk!" from the rear suspension area. Big bumps won't do it, just short ones with abrupt edges. I had resigned myself to live with it until I read that post about the weld problem. Now I'll make sure the dealer checks it out, both from the safety standpoint and the fact that my warranty expires this summer. Thanks for asking. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:40:19 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Where are these things? Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > Awright guys! I admit I'm not the most computer literate person on the > planet but my eyes are going blind scrolling through the last several > months of archives and the search engine does not recognize "Rifle" or > "Cycle Design". The Rifle website address I found just hooks you up to > a website design-group page that has Rifle as a customer. I want to > purchase a 24" Rifle windshield top (I have the base) from Cycle Design > and I cannot find the Phone Number. HELP! please? > -- 1-800-343-1374 1-508-249-2244 1-508-249-2109 FAX Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "PC800" Subject: Rifle Windshield Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:54:50 -0500 I just installed a 22" Rifle windshield on my PC. I must be weird but I don't like it ! I have to look thru it unless I lift up and it is still noisy. I think I will put my stock shield back on and return it. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: esj@sprynet.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Best Dealer in the Bay Area Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:31:59 -0800 I was near Milpitas this weekend and couldn't' resist the urge to see the famous shop (famous on the web at least). I poked my head in and said hello. A red '97 PC800 was there on the showroom floor. BTW: I buy most of my mail order parts from them. Give 'em a call. Yahoo can point you to there website. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Erin Dolin [SMTP:Erin.Dolin@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 10:42 AM To: esj@sprynet.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Best Dealer in the Bay Area REPLY TO 03/18/97 10:16 FROM esj@sprynet.com "Ed Johnson": PC800: Best Dealer in the Bay Area Ed, You can't go wrong with Honda in Milpitas. Great bunch of people. I bought my '95 from Redwood City Honda and they were nice too, but no where near the service as Milpitas. They're the only two I've had to deal with. Erin in Mountain View ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:03:36 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Problem? To: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu (Juan A. Goula) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Jan, I think it is a good idea if you post your findings after you have your dealer take a look at it. I get some harsh sounds over bumps sometimes too. I thought it was just cold oil in my shocks and forks. probably is, but I would still like to hear what you find out. Thanks, Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Where are these things? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:20:42 -0600 Lines: 16 >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: SAC> Awright guys! I admit I'm not the most computer literate person on the SAC> planet but my eyes are going blind scrolling through the last several SAC> months of archives and the search engine does not recognize "Rifle" or SAC> "Cycle Design". I just popped over to the archives, typed in cycle design, hit search, and the first message had the phone number: 508-249-2244 508-249-2109 FAX There were too many hits on "rifle" to count. - J< for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:39:27 -0800 id Megw.3211404 ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:38:44 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:29:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Modlin" Subject: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu I just got back from the local Honda dealer and after paying over $6 bucks for a duplicate key for the PC I want to vent. I know that a key costs a buck anywhere else short of Japan, just cause the dealer is the only one with the blank. Then I looked at a 97 red PC for $8600 and at risk of offending anybody - it's an ugly color. Not the deep red metallic of the 90', but a flat,cheap looking faded red. Now I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and alot of people thought the 89 Pearl white was funny, but the black, deep red and white are much better looking. Think I'm just angry cause its wet and cold today and I've just been able to ride this past week. Also I have been lurking on the ST1100 line and some idiot last week asked them to compare the ST1100 with the PC800. Why not just put out the torch with high test? After listening to the macho "There is no comparison, ST1100= MC PC800 = Scooter Some guy who had owned both said if a PC was a car it would be a 4 door sedan, and if the PC was music it would be Lawrence Welk. I challenged them to compare apples, etc, but think I'm still burning from the cheap shots. You would think that the ones that have endured prejeduce, like from any Harley owner about not owning a "real" bike, would be less likely to engage in the same cheap shot mentality. I don't need to dis your ride in order to make mine look superior. The bike speaks for itself. The following text is my reply: As a current PC800 owner and wanabee st1100 owner, I expect the disdain when asked to compare. We get it all the time when some knuckle head asks if the PC800 is a version of the Helix Scooter. But to suggest that driving a PC is like a four door sedan listing to Lawrence Welk! What the hell does that do to Goldwing sofa chair drivers? We are cousins, cut from a different building block but built by the best. The st1100 does not need to look down its cowling and sneer at the PC - it doesn't claim to be competition. But many PC owners want to step up to the next logical step - your beloved ST. The fact is the PC is available at half the price of the ST. It won't have the F-14 punch and crotch rocket appeal, but at half the price it halls the payload and will still lean as far as u dare. Compare the st with its counterparts, Concours, bmw, triumph. Don't need to dis the PC, it's had the yuppie albatross its whole life and overcome it to enjoy cult following. Flame me, like I care Bruce - Omaha - OhMyGod! 89PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:20:34 -0600 From: Michael Brown To: pc800 Subject: New 97 Hi all! Finally got out and about last Saturday. The Honda dealer in Des Moines, Iowa has a new '97 on the floor. Garvis Honda. Interesting looking the bike over for differences from the '90. Michael '90 PC800 "ESCAPN" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA09002; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) To: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield In a message dated 97-03-18 14:59:29 EST, you write: << I just installed a 22" Rifle windshield on my PC. I must be weird but I don't like it ! I have to look thru it unless I lift up and it is still noisy. I think I will put my stock shield back on and return it. >> That's the way I feel about the Hondaline tall shield and why I never went for the Rifle. It tends to split your vision. I can adjust for it on the highway, but hate it in the twisty backroads where I'm constantly switching between looking over and through the shield. I only use the tall shield in cold months for wind protection. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: AHall10688@aol.com by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA07213 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:52:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:52:21 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Questions from Colorado I intend to buy a PC800 this spring, because it seems to be the perfect bike for what I need. I've only bought one other bike in my life, and I wonder if some of the group could help me with a few questions: *Who's the best dealer to work with in the Denver area? I'm spending time at Fay Meyers, but find no flexibility on price so far. Is anybody making deals around here? *Is there a time of year better to buy than others, i.e. when dealers are more pressured to move the bikes? Alan PC800 wannabe, current Honda Shadow rider ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:09:34 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > I can read the headlines now: > > "Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another daring > robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" "Who ya gonna call?....Gross Busters!" OUCH, hey, don't hit me! I couldn't resist... :) gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:27:17 EST Is anyone else getting two of each message or is it just me? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: cklass@attmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:27:16 EST HEY! DON'T BE GROSS! HAVE SOME KLASS, MAN. HAHHAHAHA:) On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:08:53 +0000 cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) writes: >updating the > >"The Gross Brothers"? > >Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the >headlines now: > >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another >daring >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" > > > > >Chris Klass >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: garyklim@snet.net Cc: cklass@attmail.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Replacement (2) From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:27:15 EST On the replacement bike. Why not get another PC800? What else can I recommend? This is a PC800 net isn't it? On another front I saw some GIVI boxes today and the backrest pad looks tiny. I am wondering....I am buying this more for the backrest than the box but the box' capacity would be nice no doubt. Anyone have a comment on the backrest on the larger capacity but shorter box vs. the smaller cpy w/higher profile. Does it come to a woman's bra-line? That's where the boss likes it. On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:25:27 -0500 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: >> Or for that matter check out the Yamaha FJ >> 1100 - 1200. > >A friend of mine has an FJ1200. We swapped bikes on a ride once. The >riding position and very buzzy engine had my throttle hand literally >in >pain in less than 10 miles. Also, no ground clearance compared to the >PC. I scraped the pegs and boots at relatively conservative lean >angles >and sedate speed. It also doesn't like stop & go city traffic and >*will* >overheat. > >Had the Honda ACE 1100 Touring model been available when I was looking >at the PC I probably would have went for the ACE. They went back to a >dual pin crankshaft (Smooth like the PC) and retuned for more HP, >unlike >the standard ACE which can barely get out of it's own way. > >My humble .02... >________________________________________________________________________ >Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net >________________________________________________________________________ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: greg501@ix.netcom.com Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Pricing From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:27:16 EST I GET THE DUMB ASS OF THE YEAR AWARD. I DID NOT GO LOOK FIRST. MY WIFE IS USUALLY ALWAYS RIGHT ON THE MONEY. CASH PRICE WAS $8299, PLUS $300 FREIGHT. SORRY 2 WASTE UR TIME ON FALSE FACTS. NOW I FEEL BETTER THO. On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:01:33 -0600 (CST) greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) writes: >You wrote: >> >>With all the attention paid to pricing I am now wondering if they >charge >>too much in the D.C. metro area for the PC800. >> >>We paid $9400 in April of 1996. Did we pay too much? >> >YES, you paid too much. > >List price of the '96 was $8,599, and they were readily available most > >places for up to $1,000 less than that. Of course, you must add tax >and license, which can be $1,000. Even if your $9,400 is all-in, you >didn't get enough discount off the list. > >Greg > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Duplicate messages and quoting (Was: Rifle Windshield) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:57:14 -0600 Lines: 19 >>>>> "RR" == Rocky Rochambeau writes: RR> Is anyone else getting two of each message or is it just me? If someone sends a message to the list and CCs a copy to you, you will get two copies. Most email software worthy of being used can filter duplicates. If you get two copies of this message, tell me. You may be subscribed multiple times under different addresses. BTW, please cut down the quoted text in your messages and stop typing in all caps. I am getting dangerously to configuring the software to reject such messages. The traffic is high enough without having to wade through complete quoted copies with some yelling at the top. -- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@uh.edu - 713/743-8684 - 221SR1 System Manager: University of Houston High Performance Computing Center 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:54:10 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Vic Bernstein Sorry to use the list, but I can't find Vic. All others please ignore this message. Vic, Your email address bounced on me; both the reply and the sender address. Do you have another address I could use? Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA15577 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Magazine Publications... Hi, All! Hope things are going well for you. I've got 88 days left here in the Dominican Republic, so whereas I've had wonderful weather all year, I've been 2500 miles away from my Pacific Coast. I saw it at Christmas, and the folks at Gohr Power had done a wonderful job fixing it from the low-speed accident. Anyway, most of you in the Northland will soon be hitting the roads. I recently received all of my 3 motorcycle publications...American Motorcyclist, Cycle World, and Motor Cyclist. Other than seeing the little 100cc Yamahas which buzz around here, plus the occasional Harley, the closest I can get to motorcycling is playing Road Rash (which is out for PC computers...great game) and magazines. By the way, I have to have my magazines forwarded here, so it usually takes an extra 3 to 4 weeks for them to get here. I have to say that this last issue of the American Motorcyclist was a great issue. The picture on the front page made me long to get on my bike and hit the open road. Over the past year, the American Motorcyclist magazine had seemed mostly promotional, kind of going out of its way to support the over-extreme issues of motorcycling (that whole leg protector story and picture of a HD dressed that way is an example). I know that people go to an extreme to make a point, but sometimes they go out of their way. On a similar note, I do enjoy listening to Rush, but he also goes a little far to make a point at times. All this to say that the last issue seemed to focus on cycling instead of propaganda, and I loved it. Or should I say that the propoganda seemed to be in balance and in good taste? I also have to say that I've been enjoying Motor Cyclist more and more since I first picked up an issue last year. I first bought the magazine because it was introducing the Valkyre...and the front cover showed a woman riding it (fully clothed, of course, unlike our Califonia PC friends who will be riding past the nude beach)! That's a statement with a beast like the Valkyre. There's no reason why a woman shouldn't ride one! At any rate, Motor Cyclist has said openly that they are all crotch-rocket riders. Yet it seems that they are doing a far better job of including all genres of cycling, whereas Cycle World seems to be catering more and more to the Sport Bike world. I wonder why, when they already have a Sport Bike publication? I also like Motor Cyclist's riding tips...which American Motorcylcist also had this time. Just some comments to take us off the beaten path again. This seems like the year of the sport bike and the 90 degree sport twin. Last year was the year of the cruiser. When will we have the year of the sport tourer? Rumor has it that the PC will be modified or dumped next year to make room for a mini-ST1100 (I hope not), and we've seen the return of the Kawasaki Concours this year. 1998, the year of the sport-tourer? I hope so. The Valkyre has caught my heart and eye. No, it wouldn't replace my PC, but it could become my cruiser... The Wisconsin PC ride is June 28th! Anyone going to the LaCrosse AMA Rally on June 24-27? I'm going to head up there for a few days...it would be great to see a few of you there. Regards, Chris Russell 1996 PC800 88 days to go until my reunion with my PC! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:51:24 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Hudson Subject: Congratulations Karen Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her recent purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. I've been told she sits on in the garage with the motor running, wishing for some half decent riding weather. Also it's the only motorcycle I know of with only 1 mile on the odometer that already got it's first wash job :). Hang in there Karen warmer days are coming. ********************************************** George Hudson 93 GL-1500 Aspencade georgeh@en.com 96 ST-1100 Solon,Ohio 76 GL-1000 Standard (2) GWRRA 91008 STOC 302 AMA 415992 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:41:47 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Magazine Publications... ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > was introducing the Valkyre...and the front cover showed a woman riding it > (fully clothed, of course, unlike our Califonia PC friends who will be riding > past the nude beach)! I'm sorry, but since I started this, I'd better set the record straight!! :) To those of you across the country who don't know about Black's Beach, in San Diego, we really aren't going to ride within a thousand feet of there, Because it's way down at the bottom of an almost vertical cliff! Our poor PC's would never survive the trip!! Now there is the story of the time I took my trail bike out......................... Well, some other time!! ;) Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rochambeau@juno.com Cc: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:03:06 EST Just you. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:27:17 EST rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) writes: >Is anyone else getting two of each message or is it just me? >-- Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Indianridr@aol.com Cc: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:03:07 EST Is 22" the shortest Rifle shield? Thanks to anyone that answers. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) Indianridr@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-03-18 14:59:29 EST, you write: > ><< I just installed a 22" Rifle windshield on my PC. I must be weird >but I > don't like it ! I have to look thru it unless I lift up and it is >still > noisy. I think I will put my stock shield back on and return it. >> > >That's the way I feel about the Hondaline tall shield and why I never >went >for the Rifle. It tends to split your vision. I can adjust for it on >the >highway, but hate it in the twisty backroads where I'm constantly >switching >between looking over and through the shield. I only use the tall >shield in >cold months for wind protection. > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:45:20 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: New Address Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:38:50 -0500 Hello, I am resigning from my job at Edison so will lose my address there. Please note my new address if you keep such things. vsantamaria2worldnet.att.net. My wife enjoys our conversations so this change will let her in our hijinks. Just got back from a nice ride up to a local motorcycle club. The weather her is perfect for riding. Thanks, Vince Santamaria 6553 Winkler Rd Fort Myers FL 33919 (941) 433 5375 by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA24387; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:25:27 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:25:27 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE To: "Bruce Modlin" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > > > I just got back from the local Honda dealer and after paying over $6 > bucks for a duplicate key for the PC I want to vent. I know that a > key costs a buck anywhere else short of Japan, just cause the dealer > is the only one with the blank. Bruce - Keys are $6.00+ at the Harley dealer...for a blank. You then have to go down the street to pay $2.50 to get it ground down. And BTW, I ordered the blank because it would "come in much sooner than ordering a real dup key"...it took three weeks for the blank. Thank goodness it was for a friend's Harley; I'll keep my PC800. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:32:26 -0600 Lines: 8 >>>>> "RAH" == Richard A Hardy writes: RAH> Is 22" the shortest Rifle shield? I'm pretty sure that they would cut a shield of any reasonable size for you, probably for an extra fee. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:39:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:39:00 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen Karen: If the weather report is correct. You should be riding by Friday. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:52:26 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: gross bros CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > "The Gross Brothers"? > > Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the headlines now: actually, Passaic, NJ.... hehehehe dave gross ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:14:19 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Revamping the WWW site. hi gang! Got a brief note from Neill today!. He is alive and well, albeit "in job hell for the past 6 months". I mentioned to him about the revised interest in revamping the pages, and suggested that he let me manage it, tho we'd still use his www space for hosting the site. So...let's put a little list together of people and what they'd like to contribute. I have PAGEMILL/Bryce2/Photoshop/AfterEffects/ and other fun stuff on my Mac, so I can probably do most of the organizing and FTP stuff. My HTML knowledge is limited tho...We've got a good supply of graphics, but I'd sure like to have another look at em. I've got a cool 3-d program, and I'd be willing to take a shot at some new stuff (though, a full-blown 3d PC is out of my technichal skill.... let me know :>) -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:29:16 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Where are these things? Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: > > SAC> Awright guys! I admit I'm not the most computer literate person on the > SAC> planet but my eyes are going blind scrolling through the last several > SAC> months of archives and the search engine does not recognize "Rifle" or > SAC> "Cycle Design". > > I just popped over to the archives, typed in cycle design, hit search, and > the first message had the phone number: > > 508-249-2244 > 508-249-2109 FAX > > There were too many hits on "rifle" to count. You cheated. You didn't use Capitals like I did to confuse the computer. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 62 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Where are these things? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 Mar 1997 01:37:56 -0600 Lines: 18 >>>>> "SAC" == Stephen A Churchill writes: SAC> You cheated. You didn't use Capitals like I did to confuse the SAC> computer. Actually, the matching is case insensitive unless you check the "case sensitive" button. But I wouldn't usually post a useless reply like this; I just wanted to say that I found a useful optimization and now list searching is about 100 times faster. The cost is a few possibly erroneous matches. I think it's worth it. Unfortunately I still haven't rebuilt the idices. I want to upgrade some other software first, and perhaps slightly change the look of the archives. Maybe I'll get rid of those huge index pages. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: aruuk@erols.com Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:40:10 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield At 06:27 PM 3/18/97 EST, you wrote: >Is anyone else getting two of each message or is it just me? I I think think just just you you!! > > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: Barre Bull To: Dave Gross cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Revamping the WWW site. Count me in...I love churning out the html...just let me know what you want and I'll code it. I also have Photoshop 4 for win95 and a couple 3d rendering programs and gif animation packages. All I need for the coding is a basic idea of how you want the page laid out and the url's for links and stuff. Barre' Barre' Bull Network Systems Engineer Information Systems Prince George's Community College http://nwog.pg.cc.md.us On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Dave Gross wrote: > hi gang! > > Got a brief note from Neill today!. He is alive and well, albeit "in > job hell for the past 6 months". > > I mentioned to him about the revised interest in revamping the pages, > and suggested that he let me manage it, tho we'd still use his www space > for hosting the site. > > So...let's put a little list together of people and what they'd like to > contribute. I have PAGEMILL/Bryce2/Photoshop/AfterEffects/ and other > fun stuff on my Mac, so I can probably do most of the organizing and FTP > stuff. My HTML knowledge is limited tho...We've got a good supply of > graphics, but I'd sure like to have another look at em. I've got a cool > 3-d program, and I'd be willing to take a shot at some new stuff > (though, a full-blown 3d PC is out of my technichal skill.... > > let me know :>) > -- > > Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC > http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:28:02 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Congradulations! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Congratulations Karen! You will truly love it. Sure there will be times when you will see another bike that catches your eye (can you say Buel?), then you will hit the starter and immediately know how lucky you are to be riding one of the best engineered bikes around. Chris Klass 95 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:20:49 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Questions from Colorado To: AHall10688@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I bought my PC at Sun Enterprises in Denver @ 303-287-7566 from 9:00am to 6:00pm. It is a pretty large dealership. Sure, there was a little of the feeling of a car lot. But not too bad. Best of all, I told him what I wanted, and even though he didn't have it, he went and found one way out on 70 west. Said it would be there on a Wed., and it was! Fair price, got me out of my trade, and made the deal. All this was done over the phone, as I was living in WY. I will send you my salesmans name later today. Chris Klass Yes, I am in New Jersey now. Got tired of fighting the wind in Wyoming. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:43:06 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Greg Chambers Cc: Bruce Modlin , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE > Keys are $6.00+ at the Harley dealer...for a blank. You then have to > go down the street to pay $2.50 to get it ground down. And BTW, I > ordered the blank because it would "come in much sooner than ordering a > real dup key"...it took three weeks for the blank. > > Thank goodness it was for a friend's Harley; I'll keep my PC800. > > Greg > -- I thought Harleys used a screwdriver for a key? Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "Roger Prince" , "Greg Chambers" Cc: "Bruce Modlin" , Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:57:56 -0500 Hey Roger, Watch it. You will stir up the Hogs. By the way, I was at a mc club meeting (all brands but mostly Hogs and wantabees) and one of the Hogs broke his drive belt in the parking lot. He sent someone after his trailer. To replace is $200 for the belt and four hours labor. That is terrible. Some other Hog riders told him to replace it with a chain. They all make fun of my PC. I had a 1985 FLHTP with 17k miles. Scared me to death with all the shaking and rattling. However my wife wanted sex after a ride. Not all bad. Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: mskrocki@meldrum.com Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 09:55:44 est To: Indianridr@aol.com, cklass@attmail.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: Replacement (2) As a possible PC replacement, take a look at the following article in Motorcycle On-line http://motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/powertour.html It compares the Suzuki Bandit 1200 and the Kawasaki GPz1100. This particular Kawasaki sounds kind of interesting. The article states the motor does not share the buzziness of the Concours (as it has a gear driven counterbalancer). It also has optional hard saddlebags. Just a thought, although there is nothing that is a complete PC800 replacement. Enjoy the ride. Mark Skrocki Sandra & Mark Skrocki 89 PC800 "Evil Dick" hers / 85 VF1100S "Almighty Aphrodite" his Shaker Hts., OH mskrocki@meldrum.com The following is an attached File item from cc:Mail. It contains information that had to be encoded to ensure successful transmission through various mail systems. To decode the file use the UUDECODE program. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:59:30 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Black and Busted Hi everyone, recently got some problems and am trying to figure the cause. Steering bearings are pitted. Meaning the handle bar has a tendency to click to the straight ahead position. Also the front wheel bearings are worn, causing the wheel to shimmy. I can see how to fix them but am concerned how to prevent the problems from re-occuring. My bike is a 95 model (Black/Grey) and to date it has 26,000 miles on it. [ How come you guys in the U.S. all have bikes with less than 10,000 miles? Not riding, eh? ;) ] Mechanically everything seems fine, but I dropped her just coming off the main stand today. The two crash protectors are really scratched up and the mirror popped off. As it was about to fall, I decided I shouldn't fight it (cause I don't want to pull/sprain a muscle). Really embarrased myself in the perking lot! Anyway, anybody with tips on how to prevent steering and front wheel bearing failure? Or wrestling a PC back up before she falls away from you? Yu Seung from Singapore ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "PC800" Subject: Honda Hoot Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:02:49 -0500 Where are we going to meet at the Honda Hoot? I will bring my Rifle 22" screen and my Corbin seat for folks to try out. Also my dash with speakers to swap with someone. Who is a good PC mechanic? Who is going to bring other goodies for us to sample? Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:24:16 -0700 (MST) From: Eric York To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: key blanks (was: Looking for trouble) Any decent locksmith/key shop will have a blank that works, and will grind the dupe for a grand total of about $2-3. The only reason to go to the dealer is if you absolutely MUST have the cute hardayamazuki blank with a nicely formed plastic handle. For each new bike I get, I immediately make a couple dupes. Keep one of the originals to be used for duplicates only, so you always have a pristine original to work with. Keys are much more expensive if they have to be made from the key/lock code. (Don't ask how i know this. ;) Eric York ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 08:38:47 PST From: "Wanda Bailie" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Eric York Subject: Re: key blanks (was: Looking for trouble) I also make dup's immediately and save the master. However, here in my area only one locksmith carry a on hand stock of motorcycle key blanks. I went to 4 others before finding it and then it was because the 3rd one directed me there. Wanda Bailie '95 PC800 "Black Beauty" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: key blanks (was: Looking for trouble) Author: Eric York at INTERNET-KENTROX Date: 3/19/97 8:32 AM Any decent locksmith/key shop will have a blank that works, For each new bike I get, I immediately make a couple dupes. Keep one of the originals to be used for duplicates only, so you always have a pristine original to work with. Eric York ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:55:14 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: Best time to buy ** Reply to note from AHall10688@aol.com Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:52:21 -0500 (EST) > *Is there a time of year better to buy than others, i.e. when dealers are > more pressured to move the bikes? My experience was that the best time to buy the PC800 was approximately 1991-1993, before everyone realized what a great bike it was, and dealers were just trying to get rid of them. A few months after I bought my '89 new in July '91, I met someone who had paid about $400 less than I had. I thought I had gotten a great deal because I paid $4,700, and had seen the bike for $5,000 at another dealer. Seeing a savings of $300, I didn't even try to haggle, and only realized later I probably could have driven the price down another few hundred. Of course, this isn't a real answer to your question (unless you've perfected your time machine), except for the point that the best time to buy is when the seller wants to get the thing off his hands. You're unlikely to find a new pre-1996 PC still on the dealer's showroom, but an older model -- new or used -- will obviously cost less. Consider buying used from a private owner. Probably your best chance for a good deal. Also, I personally hate the rrred of the later (post '90) models. At the time I bought my '89, I thought the red of the '90 was too gaudy and tacky, but that was before the '96s and '97s came along. Now the '90 appears to be the epitome of good taste (surpassed, of course, only by the pearl of the '89.) --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:01:05 -0500 From: Steve Schibuola Subject: The Gross Brothers? To: PC800 List >Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the headlines now: > >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another daring >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" Well, one them's a lawyer, so you're not too far off. . . Just kidding! ;) Steve ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:11:50 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the headlines now: > >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another daring >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" Well, one them's a lawyer, so you're not too far off. . . Just kidding! ;) Steve __________________________________________________________________ I am off to work for Skadden, Arps; and my Wife is an attorney at Fried, Frank,Harris, ...both in the City. I am one of those pro attorney people who for some stupid reason feels its neccesary to explain to people why there are attorneys. And why we need them. Yeah, I am great fun at parties!;-) Chris Klass ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:19:06 -0700 (MST) From: Eric York To: Wanda Bailie cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: key blanks (was: Looking for trouble) On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Wanda Bailie wrote: > I also make dup's immediately and save the master. However, here in > my area only one locksmith carry a on hand stock of motorcycle key > blanks. I went to 4 others before finding it and then it was because > the 3rd one directed me there. > Author: Eric York at INTERNET-KENTROX > Date: 3/19/97 8:32 AM > > > Any decent locksmith/key shop will have a blank that works, For each I guess I got lucky or maybe "decent"="one who carries MC blanks" ;) Eric York ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:37:15 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pohys@singnet.com.sg CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Black and Busted Poh Yu Seung wrote: > Anyway, anybody with tips on how to prevent steering and front wheel > bearing failure? Headset bearings (the bearings on the steering column) will crenelate (form those detents in the bearing race) faster by several magnitudes if they are allowed to become loose. A loose headset can be ascertained by putting the bike on the center stand and weighting the rear wheel to lift the front wheel off the ground. grab the fork at the axle and vigorously push-pull. If there is any perceptable motion at all the bearings are loose and need to be adjusted. rotate the fork. if it feels like there are detents then the race is crenelated and no amount of adjustment will cure it. replace the bearings and races and have them properly adjusted and the shimmy will dissappear.(that is assuming the wheel bearings are in good shape.) The wheel bearings also take an extra load and extra wear when the headset is loose because of they have to prevent the slop in the headset from translating into shimmy. Replace both and you will be amazed how much better the bike will steer. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 62 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:20:19 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:20:19 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: museum in Georgia??? I thougt it was here I heard Many Moons ago about a M/c museum, maybe private, in or around Atlanta....so now that I will BE in Atlanta......does anyone remember? Ron in Brisbane. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:33:15 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: pohys@singnet.com.sg CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Black and Busted Poh Yu Seung wrote: > Anyway, anybody with tips on how to prevent steering and front wheel > bearing failure? Stop doing "Power Wheelies"... ;) Seriously, keep the steering bearings well greased and properly torqued. Avoid sharp edged bumps. There really isn't much else you can do. As for the wheel bearings, *Never* use a pressure washer to clean the bike. All it takes is one accidental hit to the seals and you've got water in the bearings. Other than checking the seals once in a while for cracks or tears, there is no wheel bearing maintenance, only inspection. > Or wrestling a PC back up before she falls away from you? Torn tendons or potential spinal injury isn't worth it. Let her fall. The PC is over 600 lbs if I remember correctly. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:14:27 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: JUICE CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Tank Bag attachment instructions JUICE wrote: > > Hi Steve, > Now I am the stupid one, where is the article on mounting tank bags? I didn't think that there was any good way to mount them. Also do you know if those small handlebar bags damage the air cleaner cover or do they not touch? Anyway, thanks for any comeback. The only messgae I could find on the search engine concerning the actual mounting of bags is: 9605/msg00083 in the archives of the web site. It only briefly describes mounting a three point bag. There is always the option of using suction cups which reportedly works fine though I haven't seen it personally. I put my Tourmaster 18 liter tank bag with a three point mounting on today with very little problem. It went as follows: FRONT STRAPS 1. turn the handlebars left and in the gap near the center, reach WAY under the most aft right forward-deck panel(the words make sense when you look at it) with two fingers and lift with 15-25 lbs force and it will pop out. 2. turn the handlebars right and do the same with the left side panel. This will give you a clear access and view of the head tube and fork bearings. 3. feed one end of the bag mounting strap down the left side on top of the rubber pad but under the rubber tube, until you can grab it from underneath. Then pull a length of it through;~12-18". 4. from underneath feed the same strap end up the right side over the rubber pad until you can pull it from the top. Make sure the strap is fed BEHIND the steering tube bearings around and underneath the frame, NOT around the moving parts of the fork itself. Adjust the length of the straps on top to equal length. 5. My system had a cross strap that connected the two mountng straps on top, above the steering tube with velcro. Do that now. 6. pop back in the two sides of the deck panel. Note the left side has a hook that engages a tab near the center. Do not force things! Look closely the way things fit and reassemble gently. If things are not fitting right, look again. The front two straps are now in place. Mine has male plastic snap clips that engage the female counterpart on the bag. I filed a shallow groove in the trailing edge of the panel where the strap escapes from underneath so there would be no chafing. REAR STRAP 7. Open the trunk and look forward at the rear of the front seat. There are two mounting bolts. Remove these (12mm socket) 8. Now you can slide the front seat rearward and off the bike. I had to finagle it off with the trunk about halfway open but it comes fairly easily. 9. Now you have blatantly easy access to the two round frame tubes (actually one tube bent in a "U" shape and welded to a channel piece)around which you can affix the rear strap. Don't use the U-channel piece that the frame tubes are welded to. That is what the front seat plastic tang hooks under and it will bind. 10. Once you have the strap in place, replace the seat and the two rear bolts. Close the trunk. YOU'RE DONE! It took me about 45 minutes excluding the Environmental Impact study. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Able Mable II" 62 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: aruuk@erols.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rifle Windshield From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:24:46 EST Very funny. One guy sent me his reply in quadruple. OK OK and thanks thanks. On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:40:10 -0500 aruuk@erols.com writes: >At 06:27 PM 3/18/97 EST, you wrote: >>Is anyone else getting two of each message or is it just me? > > > I I think think just just you you!! >> >> > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:24:46 EST I want to thank everyone who helped me locate those "scoot boots" by Givi. I found that Coleman Power Sport here in Falls Church has some on display. I got a tiny brochure from them. The chief reason for the Givi box was not to store more stuff but to provide a backrest for my Mrs. who is also the taste police. She saw the little brochure and I pulled up a pic of that PC800 w/the Givi on the back. Boss thinks she will stay with the factory backrest. Corbin's seat failed to fit as they didn't take into consideration the difference between the pre 95s and my 96. Carolyn said the thing looks like a giant wart. Yes it does really do dramatic things to the lines of the cycle. Now I would be interested in any comments. "We" have decided not to get the Givi at this time. Maybe instead of leaning on the backrest she will hug me for stability and that secure feeling. Again thanks to each person who helped me with all the info sent me on the seat thingy. Rocky ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: greg501@ix.netcom.com Cc: bruce.modlin@firstdatacorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:24:45 EST When you got the blank for your key, did you try a locksmith first? I got one for my '89 Harley Springer at a locksmith (not a hdwe store or drug store but a real locksmith. ??? Lemme know....tnx ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA29845; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:17:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:17:21 -0500 (EST) To: garyklim@snet.net, tibbs@hpc.uh.edu cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Archives In a message dated 97-03-17 22:27:20 EST, garyklim@snet.net (Gary E. Klim) writes: << its' sole purpose is to act as a gateway to the collective dynamic wisdom of the list itself. gk >> You GO girrrrllll !!!!!! Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA28939; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:25:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:25:56 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Directions to the IL ride Hi gang, Our good friend Abbey ( of the burned down garage) as kindly written up directions to the Sunday ride from Downers Grove Honda. Meet at 10AM for fun and excitement. Thanks Abbey. Z In a message dated 97-03-18 08:40:50 EST, aperez@pecorp.com (aperez) writes: << Downtown Chicago ---------------- Take I290 or Eisenhower expressway heading west. As soon as you pass Manhaim Road, move to your furthest left hand lane. Take I88 heading west, pay 40 cents toll. Drive about 8 miles and exit I355 heading south. As soon as you exit, stay on your right hand lane and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Northern Suburbs ---------------- Take I294 or TriState expressway heading south. As soon as you pass St. Charles Road stay on your right hand lane. Exit on I88 heading west, pay 40 cents toll. Drive about 8 miles and exit I355 heading south. As soon as you exit, stay on your right hand lane and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Sprinfield Illinois ------------------- Take I55 heading north. As soon as you pass Rte53, stay on your right hand lane. Exit on I355 heading north, pay 50 cents toll, drive about 6 miles until you get to Ogden Avenue. Exit down the ramp make a right hand turn drive about 3/4 of a mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Rockford Illinois ----------------- Take I90 heading east. Exit on I355 heading south, drive 12 miles, pay 50 cents toll, drive another 18 miles and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. >> --------------------- Forwarded message: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: aperez@pecorp.com (aperez) To: GuntherSki@aol.com Date: 97-03-18 08:40:50 EST GuntherSki@aol.com wrote: > > great AP, look forward to meeting you. > > Would you mind posting directions to the shop from a couple of different > points of origin.... DT, South, North... > > Just post it to the PC800 list and the HSTA list, or send it to me and I'll > do it > > Thanks, > > Z Downtown Chicago ---------------- Take I290 or Eisenhower expressway heading west. As soon as you pass Manhaim Road, move to your furthest left hand lane. Take I88 heading west, pay 40 cents toll. Drive about 8 miles and exit I355 heading south. As soon as you exit, stay on your right hand lane and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Northern Suburbs ---------------- Take I294 or TriState expressway heading south. As soon as you pass St. Charles Road stay on your right hand lane. Exit on I88 heading west, pay 40 cents toll. Drive about 8 miles and exit I355 heading south. As soon as you exit, stay on your right hand lane and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Sprinfield Illinois ------------------- Take I55 heading north. As soon as you pass Rte53, stay on your right hand lane. Exit on I355 heading north, pay 50 cents toll, drive about 6 miles until you get to Ogden Avenue. Exit down the ramp make a right hand turn drive about 3/4 of a mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Rockford Illinois ----------------- Take I90 heading east. Exit on I355 heading south, drive 12 miles, pay 50 cents toll, drive another 18 miles and exit on Ogden Avenue. Make a left hand turn, drive one mile and on the left hand side of the road is Downers Grove Honda dealership. Abbey ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA23528; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:39:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:39:47 -0500 (EST) To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: ALL CAPS Careful all, Jason is PISSED and he's not going to take it anymore..... Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA06681; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:46:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:46:06 -0500 (EST) To: vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us, roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com, greg501@ix.netcom.com cc: bruce.modlin@firstdatacorp.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE In a message dated 97-03-19 09:59:14 EST, vsantam@eccrs.edison.cc.fl.us (Vince Santamaria) writes: << Scared me to death with all the shaking and rattling. However my wife wanted sex after a ride. Not all bad. >> Vince, Um,, I've got an out of round wheel for my PC.... Perhaps you're interested.... Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA14938; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:50:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:50:03 -0500 (EST) To: pohys@singnet.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Black and Busted Wow, I haven't heard of pitted head bearings... My '76 Kawasaki KZ750 has that condition but, it's 20 years old. Perhaps the head bearings were not adjusted properly at teh outset??? Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:49 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Rocky Rochambeau Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > Corbin's seat failed to fit as they didn't take into consideration the > difference between the pre 95s and my 96. > I wasn't aware of any changes made except for the colors. Anybody have different information? Roger ps I know the seats on my '90 and '95 are interchangeable. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:26:22 -0500 From: Bob Coulter To: George Hudson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen George Hudson wrote: > > Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her recent > purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. > > I've been told she sits on in the garage with the motor running, wishing > for some half decent riding weather. Also it's the only motorcycle I know > of with only 1 mile on the odometer that already got it's first wash job :). > > Hang in there Karen warmer days are coming. > ********************************************** > George Hudson 93 GL-1500 Aspencade > georgeh@en.com 96 ST-1100 > Solon,Ohio 76 GL-1000 Standard (2) > GWRRA 91008 STOC 302 > AMA 415992 > > -- > Thanks for the kind welcome! We picked up my '97 PC last Saturday and brought it home on a trailer, hence the 01 reading on the odometer. I must say, the '97 is a bit different from the previous models but different can be good, too. The new front wheel treatment is very sporty looking (like the ST). As far as the black plastic on the bottom portion of the machine - the dash and seat are black, too, so everything looks very coordinated. It's obvious my hubby has been telling tales about me.. trouble is, they're true. Guess my spring fever is catching up with me. I think it's a beautiful bike and look forward to participating on the PC newsgroup. I've already learned a lot.. Thanks! Karen Coulter ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: ALL CAPS From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:19:33 -0600 Lines: 22 >>>>> "G" == GuntherSki writes: G> Jason is PISSED and he's not going to take it anymore..... I wouldn't say pissed; I'm just reflecting the private complaints that I have received. I have been asked if I can limit the amount of quoted material that people send; large messages take time to download. I can do some things to limit it, and the more complaints I get, the closer I get to implementing those controls. I figure I'd at least ask everyone to cut it out before getting medieval. If you want to know whether or not it bothers me personally, well, my mail reading software hides the mounds of quoted text and I just don't bother to read messages sent in all caps. I wouldn't have seen this message at all if it hadn't been sent directly to me because I rarely read anything with an all-capitalized subject. So it doesn't bother me, because I'm used to it. It does bother others, though. That's really all that I want to say about this. Lets get back to discussing motorcycles. - J< by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:31:31 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE To: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >When you got the blank for your key, did you try a locksmith first? I >got one for my '89 Harley Springer at a locksmith (not a hdwe store or >drug store but a real >locksmith. ??? Lemme know....tnx > The locksmith I went to was right down the street from the Harley dealer, and was referred to me by the Harley dealer. The locksmith told me that he stopped carrying Harley blanks because he had to buy them in packs of 50, and it took him years to get rid of them. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:31:02 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? Steve Schibuola wrote: > > >Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the headlines > now: > > > >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another > daring > >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" > > Well, one them's a lawyer, so you're not too far off. . . Just kidding! ;) That just means I don't have to rob banks. This is _much_ safer! Steve (licensed to steal in 2 states) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:33:40 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: The Gross Brothers? CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > > >Sounds like a pair of evil doers from Newark. I can read the headlines > now: > > > >"Downtown was held hostage as the "Gross Brothers" pulled off another > daring > >robbery, this time they hit the 1st Federal" > > Well, one them's a lawyer, so you're not too far off. . . Just kidding! ;) > > Steve > __________________________________________________________________ > > I am off to work for Skadden, Arps; and my Wife is an attorney at Fried, Frank,Harris, You _married_ a lawyer? Are you nuts???? (or is she?) Steve ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:10:16 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: Black and Busted To: garyklim@snet.net (Gary E. Klim) Cc: pohys@singnet.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu (PC-800 E-Mail Group) How do you greese the steering bearings? Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:22:28 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com (Roger Prince) Cc: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Though we have been through this, I think it makes sense to go over it so the new people know. I bought a slightly used Corbin, and tried to put it on my 95. WOW! It took quite a while to get the passenger seat on. I mean A LOT of time! I won't be taking it off anytime soon. Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vince Santamaria" To: "CHRISTOPHER M KLASS" , "Roger Prince" Cc: "Rocky Rochambeau" , Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:45:40 -0500 Gee! Why didn't you warn me. I just took the Corbin off my 1990. I'll schedule the weekend to reinstall. Seriously, do you think the Crbin is that better than stock? Thanks, Vince Santamaria (941) 433 8043 System Programmer Edison Community College 8099 College Parkway SW P.O.Box 60210 Fort Myers FL 33906-6210 FAX:(941)489-9399 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:06:05 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu CC: dannykah@singnet.com.sg Subject: Black and Busted Pt 2 Hi all, Great stuff when people respond so promptly to troubled souls... Well, I guess the reason must be too many 'power wheelies' but unfortunately I'm the third owner of the bike. (Probably explains why I get some clutch slip when I throw the clutch going into fourth gear from third). So some uncivilised idiot owned a PC before me and tried to turn it into a CBR 800! The said idiot also massacred the bike as follows: 1.removed a chunk of sponge/foam from front seat so his short legs could reach the ground. So now I'm sitting on HARD plastic and a layer of PVC 2.cut holes for 4" speaker and drilled same panel for tweeter. Before selling the bike, uses putty in liberal amounts to seal up tweeter holes and leaves the speaker grilles still held there by epoxy 3.keeps original Honda tool kit (why?) 4.shorts the engine kill circuit, to use the kill switch to control his stereo plus cuts the plastic (where the headlight controls would be on a regular bike) to install two more switches, one for shutting off the headlight and the other for who knows what.(probably a vibrator so his wife would want to get laid, since he's so short anyway!) I kinda got a bad deal and am in the process of restoring the bike to original spec. so it didn't help when it fell in the car park yesterday afternoon. Managed to pop in new front wheel bearings already and the steering bearings were fixed by a trick I learned whilst working in the bicycle trade. Pop out bearings from the retainer, reinstall original balls, adding one or two more of the same diameter. The process took me six hours with a buddy helping out and constant reference to the shop manual. Steers buttery smooth now and will only change the whole set when it begins to bind again. Unfortunately I only had spare balls from a Campagnolo Record bottom bracket, so I've got some bicycle parts in my motorbike now. [Big smile from bicycle owners :) ] By the way, I can only claim credit for 3000 miles, having collected the bike on 31 Dec 1996. The sod who owned it before me racked up 24000 miles in two years. (Sorry to disappoint, Wanda) So to everyone who replied, thanks! because I know my bearings will LAST. Hey, if anyone is ever in Singapore, look me up and I'll gladly show you around. On a black and busted PC if you like. Yu Seung ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cem Erdem To: "'rochambeau@juno.com'" Cc: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat (fwd) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:10:02 -0600 I am also considering a Givi for the same purposes, but never saw a picture of pc800 with it. Can you put the picture on the Web or send it to us by email? >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:24:46 EST >From: Rocky Rochambeau >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat > >She saw the little brochure and I pulled up a pic of that PC800 w/the >Givi on the back. Boss thinks she will stay with the factory backrest. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 20 Mar 97 09:48:07 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@CompuServe.COM> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Cc: HSTA Postings to List Subject: Pc800 owners' meeting at STAR '97 For those of you that, like me, ride a Honda Pacific Coast, I want you to know that the present schedule for STAR '97 includes a meeting for Honda Pacific Coast owners to be held at 8 pm on Monday, June 23rd. I have been asked to chair the meeting, and I'll be looking for each of you to join me at that time! If you haven't already made plans to attend our 15th national rally, here's another good reason to put STAR '97 on your 1997 riding calendar! Dana Sawyer P.S. If you're not a member of the HSTA, send me your snail-mail address and I'll mail you a brochure/application. by mail01.protelsa.com.pe (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gullermo Arias" To: "honda lista de discusion" Subject: need address of motocycle shop Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:44:20 -0500 Hello, i am Guillermo Arias, from PERU. i need to know some internet motorcycles shops,please if any of you know that tell me as soon as possible. bye Guillermo Arias guillermoea@protelsa.com.pe by mail01.protelsa.com.pe (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Gullermo Arias" To: "honda lista de discusion" Subject: RV: need address of motocycle shop Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:48 -0500 ---------- > De: Gullermo Arias > A: honda lista de discusion > Asunto: need address of motocycle shop > Fecha: Jueves 20 de Marzo de 1997 09:44 AM > > Hello, i am Guillermo Arias, from PERU. i need to know some internet > motorcycles shops,please if any of you know that tell me as soon as > possible. > > bye > > Guillermo Arias > guillermoea@protelsa.com.pe ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:07:41 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: need address of motocycle shop To: guilermoea@protelsa.com.pe (Gullermo Arias), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Que tipo de tineda? Piezas, Consejo, Ventas? Chris My Spanish is not great, sorry. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:20:17 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC clothing Ok boys and girls. You've been waiting a long time for this and it's finally here, your chance to get your PC embroidered on shirts, hats, underwear, or just about whatever you want. This is my third run at this so I've gained some good experience in making ordering and deliveries more efficient. But I still am a one man shop, doing this as a hobby so I make no promises ok? Now that work's finally calmed down a bit here I can kick this off again. I've also created a web order form at our Southern California Pacific Coast Motorcycle Club (SCPCMC, that's a mouthful) web site for your convenience: http://www.concentric.net/~johanlai/pcrsc Just click on the picture at the bottom of the page. Here's how it's going to work: 1) I'll wait one week from this message to collect all the orders and confirm what everyone wants. 2) Week two is when I present our collective order to the embroiderer Before I do that, I'll confirm once again with everyone so I don't screw up anybody's order. Make sure you look it over again at this time because I'm still human the last time I checked :) 3) Between week 2 and 3 is when they will gather all the inventory (they don't keep stock, they just embroider) and actually do the sewing. 4) Week 4 is when they get completed and I send them all back to you. That's it! And then you can wear your duds proudly in your respective neighborhoods. Cheers, Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" P.S. Bob, got your shirts, one XL and one LG. They are bright "blind your eyes" yellow :) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat (fwd) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 20 Mar 1997 13:15:57 -0600 Lines: 11 >>>>> "CE" == Cem Erdem writes: CE> I am also considering a Givi for the same purposes, but never saw a CE> picture of pc800 with it. Can you put the picture on the Web or send it CE> to us by email? There are several pictures at ftp://ftp.hpc.uh.edu/pub/pc800/images/givi. Anyone running a web page is of course free to make these available. Any web browser should read them as-is. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:56:50 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Black and Busted CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > > How do you greese the steering bearings? In a perfect world there would be a Zerk fitting protruding from the steering neck which would require no more effort than attaching the hose of your grease gun... ...However... ...The reality of the situation is that the disassembly required to get to the point at which you're holding the steering bearings in your hand is Biblical in scope. Assuming the races and bearings are in serviceable condition, repacking them and torquing to spec is easy. Service manual is a must. BTW, if you're having the bearings serviced, this is the perfect time to change your fork oil as well. Some may recall that there are *no* drain plugs on the fork legs... :-( gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:03:37 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: CHRISTOPHER M KLASS CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat CHRISTOPHER M KLASS wrote: > I bought a slightly used Corbin,... It took > quite a while to get the passenger seat on. I mean A LOT of time! The archives contain intimate details of what I had to go through to get the Corbin passenger seat to fit on my '96, for those who might be considering a Corbin. I was *not* amused... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: tibbs@hpc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat (fwd) From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ will get you the pictures. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: guilermoea@protelsa.com.pe Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RV: need address of motocycle shop From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST Hola Guillermo. Bienvenido. No van a soportar mi hablar Espanol en este net. Buena suerte. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: CemE@vallon.com Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat (fwd) From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST One asked to see a pic of a PC w/ the Givi abord. Go to http://members.aol.com/wwwpc800/ Then play around til u find "pictures." It is listed as having the Givi . Bonne chance. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST Well brother I am here to tell you there's a difference. When I got my PC they ordered a factory backrest and it did not fit because the seat was wider. They had to do a big tete-a-tete with Honda an lo the new one came wioth a note of apology and mention of la difference. I warned Corbin of this when I ordered it but I may as well have peed in a violin (that is a literal translation from the French like I wasted my breath). Corbin didn't want to do a refund--they wanted me to wait until someone rode in there on a 96PC and when will that be? Not sure..... Well I talked them into a refund and they kept the freight and insurance which was not cheap. A quick note to Visa Card people and I got even that refunded and it was not just a couple of dollars. Voila!!! On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:49 -0500 Roger Prince writes: >Rocky Rochambeau wrote: >> >> Corbin's seat failed to fit as they didn't take into consideration >the >> difference between the pre 95s and my 96. >> >I wasn't aware of any changes made except for the colors. Anybody >have >different information? > >Roger > >ps I know the seats on my '90 and '95 are interchangeable. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:42:54 +0800 From: Poh Yu Seung To: "Gary E. Klim" CC: dannykah@singnet.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Black and Busted Hi Gary, > > ...The reality of the situation is that the disassembly required to get > to the point at which you're holding the steering bearings in your hand > is Biblical in scope. Assuming the races and bearings are in serviceable > condition, repacking them and torquing to spec is easy. Service manual > is a must. > Well looks like I can claim to have parted the black PC...... :) > BTW, if you're having the bearings serviced, this is the perfect time to > change your fork oil as well. Some may recall that there are *no* drain > plugs on the fork legs... :-( Whoops, do I have to do the parting trick again? :{ Yu Seung from Singapore> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:42:46 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat Gary E. Klim wrote: [...] > The archives contain intimate details of what I had to go through to get > the Corbin passenger seat to fit on my '96, for those who might be > considering a Corbin. I was *not* amused... OTOH, it took me about 20 minutes to get the back seet one, & 3 to adjust the front on my '90... Who the heck knows? Once on & broken in, tho, I wouldn't trade it for anything! Steve ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: We're multilingual! (Was: need address of motocycle shop) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 20 Mar 1997 23:23:54 -0600 Lines: 20 >>>>> "RR" == Rocky Rochambeau writes: RR> Hola Guillermo. Bienvenido. No van a soportar mi hablar Espanol en RR> este net. Buena suerte. Konbanwa ARIASsensei. Irassyaimase. Watakushiwa SPEINgoga zenzenwakarimasenkara kono NETTOde eigomo nihongoga kakimasyoone? Ganbattekudasaimasenka? (I'm sure there's plenty to correct there; I only studied for two years and that was quite a while ago.) As for motorcycle shops, for parts I hear that Honda of Milpitas (in California) is pretty good. I don't know if they will ship internationally. They may still be at hondamil@aol.com, 408-263-6060. If you want to buy a motorcycle and have it shipped to you, I think you will have a problem. Will dealers even do this? - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA18416 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:57:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:57:54 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Black and Busted Hi Yu Seung: One good fix for the steering head is to have the ball bearings replaced with roller bearings. If you get the specifications (sizes) of the original bearings, any good bearing-supply house should be able to come up with the appropriate roller set. If you stay with the ball bearings, it is really important to make sure they stay properly adjusted. A little play in them can cause premature failure. With wheel bearings, there is not much to be done except to avoid high-pressure washing which can force water past the seals and ruin the bearings. Of course, with the PC, the plastic should prevent this problem, but . . . . Of course you could move to a cooler, dryer climate; that has lots of advantages :) I think your technique for dealing with a falling 600+ lb motorcycle is the correct one. There is no reason to risk pain and injury trying to save it once it gets to "that point." JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800), tibbs@hpc.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:15:34 -0500 Subject: Motorcycles by mail order On Friday, March 21, 1997 Jason wrote" "If you want to buy a motorcycle and have it shipped to you, I think you will have a problem. Will dealers even do this?" I am currently working in the New York city area, and there are several dealers advertised in the yellow pages who claim to be "experts in motorcycle export" . If anyone is interested, respond directly to me, and I can provide you with the phone numbers of some of these dealers. fsl ************************************** '95 PC800 --> Black, ~500 miles, and holding ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA02400 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:17:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:17:51 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: We're multilingual! (Was: need address of motocycle shop) In a message dated 97-03-21 00:24:35 EST, Jason wrote: << If you want to buy a motorcycle and have it shipped to you, I think you will have a problem. Will dealers even do this? >> Some do; my local dealer (Mid-south Motoplex, Clarksville, TN) sells bikes to folks in other countries. I don't think he is on the net; however. JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:05:47 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Dealers shipping MC (Was: Re: We're multilingual!) I think they can if they know how. All they have to do is call a shipping company and pass along the costs. I was looking at a PC here in Huntington Beach, CA for a gentleman in Mexico City. Don't know if he bought it but I did the check for him first and the dealer said it wasn't a problem. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > If you want to buy a motorcycle and have it shipped to you, I think you > will have a problem. Will dealers even do this? > > - J< --------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:28:49 -0800 From: Johan Lai To: roger@etgn14.webo.dg.com CC: Rocky Rochambeau , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat I've seen the 96's and 97's up close and the seat does look a little different. It's got more of a sculpted look to it. Different material than my '89 for sure. At first glance, you'd think the places where the bolts and line meet the bike would be the same, but apparantly not. Johan Lai Orange, CA '89 "Cassandra" Roger Prince wrote: > > Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > > > Corbin's seat failed to fit as they didn't take into consideration the > > difference between the pre 95s and my 96. > > > I wasn't aware of any changes made except for the colors. Anybody have > different information? > > Roger > > ps I know the seats on my '90 and '95 are interchangeable. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Akoell@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA24248 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:03:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:03:56 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: service manual Anyone know where I can check out prices of the service manual on-line? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:37:29 +0100 (MET) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Model '97 Hi folks, Now that the '97 model is on the marked for a few months, can anyone tell me if there is anything technical different than previous models. Or was there just a color and fender change. Gerard Diepeveen, PCN --------------------------------00--------------------- Gerard Diepeveen '89 White Pacific Coast Netherlands E-Mail: pcn@dsv.nl or gerard@dsv.nl O-PC-O:-) "May the Pacific Coast be with you" Visit the Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ ------------------------------------------------------ for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:05:40 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:05:40 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: pcrider@mcserver.csun.edu (pcrider) Subject: '89 PC spotted near Van Nuys My wife and I went over to Balboa Park (in the SanFernando Valley, not San Diego) to watch the Remote Control airplane pilots fly their model planes. (There is a really cool air field there, and I'm considering the hobby). When we pulled up, there was a very nice pearl white (what else?) '89 PC with a color matched tall Rifle Screen parked in the lot. We parked our bikes next to it and after admiring it for a while, we went over to see the airplanes. About 30 minutes later I saw the PC leaving. Didn't get a chance to say hi. :< Was it anyone on this list? BTW, if any of you happen to be RC Pilots, email me directly... I could use some pointers. John John LaFreniere http://john.csun.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA28023; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:00:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:00:47 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: IL Ride this Sunday Hey Gang, I met the folks at Downers Grove Honda and they are excited about having us as part of the group. Downers Grove Honda is located south west of the city, just East of the intersection of 355 and Ogden Ave. Please be there by 10AM. The weather is going to be perfect so.... BE THERE !!!! I look forward to meeting you. Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:09:50 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR TROUBLE At 03:29 PM 3/18/97 -0800, you wrote: > > Compare the st with its counterparts, Concours, bmw, triumph. Don't > need to dis the PC, it's had the yuppie albatross its whole life and > overcome it to enjoy cult following. > > Flame me, like I care Bruce - Omaha - OhMyGod! 89PC800 Go Bruce! You tell 'em! :-) Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:49:33 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat Addressed to: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) pc800@hpc.uh.edu ** Reply to note from rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST > difference. I warned Corbin of this when I ordered it but I may as well > have peed in a violin (that is a literal translation from the French like I > wasted my breath). Corbin didn't want to do a refund--they wanted me Rocky, What is the original French version of this colorful expression, for us cunning linguists on the list? --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA06209 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:42:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:42:28 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: E-Mail Change Of Address Hi, Y'all! I'm switching to Juno, so from now on please send your mail to: timmacy@juno.com Thanks, Y'all! Tim Macy Portland, OR '94 PC800--45,800 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: jhyder@erols.com Cc: rochambeau@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:21:59 EST Why did I get two copies of this and many other letters? Help someone please. On Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:49:33 EST James Hyder writes: >Addressed to: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) > pc800@hpc.uh.edu > >** Reply to note from rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Thu, 20 >Mar 1997 19:18:53 EST >> difference. I warned Corbin of this when I ordered it but I may as >well >> have peed in a violin (that is a literal translation from the French >like I >> wasted my breath). Corbin didn't want to do a refund--they wanted me > > >Rocky, > >What is the original French version of this colorful expression, for >us >cunning linguists on the list? > >--James Hyder > Columbia, MD USA > '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:14:30 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:14:30 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: WSC Philip Island So 2 Kawasakis on provisional pole.....more practice today. We have 3 hrs live coverage, Sunday, last 'event' before I take off for L.A. Monday a.m.Looking like a good race!Ron. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:29:18 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: E-Mail Change Of Address At 02:42 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Y'all! I'm switching to Juno, so from now on please send your mail to: > >timmacy@juno.com > >Thanks, Y'all! Y'all? Tim, I thought you were from Oregon? :-) Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE the Givi Luggage boxes behind the seat From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 21 Mar 1997 18:11:55 -0600 Lines: 14 >>>>> "RR" == Rocky Rochambeau writes: RR> Why did I get two copies of this and many other letters? Help someone RR> please. Because, as I said earlier, if someone sends a copy both to you and to the list you will get two copies. >> Addressed to: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) >> pc800@hpc.uh.edu See, sent to both you and the list. - J< by calvin.linfield.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA01782; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:59:13 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:59:12 -0800 (PST) From: Michael A Jones Subject: Re: E-Mail Change Of Address To: "Juan A. Goula" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Of course Tim is from Oregon. Down south here, we'all say y'all. By the way, isn't Juno in Alaska? On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Juan A. Goula wrote: > At 02:42 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi, Y'all! I'm switching to Juno, so from now on please send your mail to: > > > >timmacy@juno.com > > > >Thanks, Y'all! > > Y'all? Tim, I thought you were from Oregon? :-) > > Juan > "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" > -- from an Alaska Airlines ad > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 > School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX > University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat > (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:47:54 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: "Juan A. Goula" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, timmacy@juno.com Subject: Re: E-Mail Change Of Address Tim took a ride down south, y'all! by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA13326 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:56:32 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:56:32 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: PCs for Sale - Georgia The following ads are in the current (March 25) GA/Alabama Cycle Trader issue: 1990 - 6500 miles, red/silver, extended windshield, cover, helmet $4300 obo. Steve Suissa (404) 730-5130 - work pager: (404)716-4241 1994 PC800 - Light blue/gray, tall wide windshield, like new condition, back rest, easy handling, sport touring, storage under seat, 5500 miles, $5995 obo (205) 350-7039; (205) 355-6633 1996 Pacific Coast - red, like new condition, still under transferable warranty, will deliver within 300 miles, was $8600 new; will sell for $5900 obo (912) 382-6139 Only the 1990 is in the Atlanta area. The 1994 is in Alabama and the 96 is in South/East Georgia. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:58:00 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:58:00 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: WSC qualify positions Well I had to wait thru ALL the football, the horse races, even the local high school rowing, but finally.... Pole- Aaron Slight 2nd some Jap guy on a Kawasaki 3rd Simon Crafar , also Kawa then they said the TOP Aussie was 9th!!! I think Goddard, who won the Oz superbike cup last year....hmmmm....I wonder where all the Ozzies went??? NOW I remember....they are all in 500cc F1!!!Ron in Brisbane. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA27173 for pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:13:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:13:16 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Jeff's Options Thanks everyone for your concern, advice, assistance and stories related to my accident and possible replacements. I really appreciate the advice about possible replacement bikes. The reality is that I may not be able to afford another PC. I bought an old used car immediately so that I'd have wheels ($700 plus $800 for repairs). If I don't get a PC, it will probably be a newer Nighthawk, possibly a 750 Sabre (I've seen some for as little as $650), maybe a 600 Seca because I can put a taller handlebar on it. I saw a great 94 PC for $4700--seemed like a good price for what looked like an immaculate bike. Anyway, I'll keep you posted. Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:08:23 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: George Hudson CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen George Hudson wrote: > > Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her recent > purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. As a recent purchaser of a new '96 demo model with 10 miles on it I congratulate Karen and share similar sentiments of the excitement of a new purchase. Also it's the only motorcycle I know > of with only 1 mile on the odometer that already got it's first wash job :). Mine had 38 miles on it before I washed it, waxed it TWICE, and polished the wheels! This insanity seems to be part of the human condition. :) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 242 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:29:13 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: George Hudson , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen Congratulations to you both on your wise choices and wishes for many years of enjoying them. Roger Prince ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:14:06 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Ronald Grant Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: WSC qualify positions ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:36:07 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Ronald Grant Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: WSC Philip Island World Superbike Championship World Superbike Championship Phillip Island, Australia Qualifying: Saturday, March 22, 1997 WORLD SUPERBIKE QUALIFYING (Final grid): 1. Aaron Slight (Hon), 1:34.683; 2. Akira Yanagawa (Kaw), 1:35.139; 3. Simon Crafar (Kaw), 1:35.184; 4. Colin Edwards II (Yam), 1:35.204; 5. Carl Fogarty (Duc), 1:35.222; 6. Neil Hodgson (Duc), 1:35.455; 7. John Kocinski (Hon), 1:35.837; 8. Scott Russell (Yam), 1:35.842; 9. Peter Goddard (Suz) 1:35.887; 10. Piergiorgio Bontempi (Kaw), 1:36.073; 11. Pier-Francesco Chili (Duc), 1:36.078; 12. Troy Bayliss (Suz), 1:36.203; 13. Steve Martin (Suz), 1:36.327; 14. Craig Connell (Duc), 1:36.466; 15. Damon Buckmaster (Kaw), 1:36.664; 16. Martin Craggill (Kaw), 1:36.962; 17. Shawn Giles (Hon), 1:36.994; 18. Mike Hale (Suz), 1:37.113; 19. Jamie Whitham (Suz), 1:37.615; 20. Moss (Hon), 1:38.618. Oops. Forgot the glue. Roger by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id RAA20100 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:12:07 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:16:46 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Damn!!!!!!! So quick, not so good news. Well, um, lets put it this way. I was looking for a new bike this morning. My bike was totaled when I plowed into a guy runing a red light. I am ok, no broken bones. Just sore. VERY SORE!!!! I was in the left lane on a 4 lane one way street. As the light turned green, I was about 70 yards from the intersection of a one way coming from the right. So I let go of the brakes and kept my pace into the intersection. PROBLEM: The other three lanes had trucks and vans in them. I was not able to see the guy who chose to run the red, untill it was too late. I make it a habit to be in the center lane or on the right if crossing an intersection of a one way coming from the right, and visa versa. But this time I was going to make a left at the next block. Oh well. The bike was totaled. but here are my observations: NO leg damage eve though the whole right side of the bike was smashed. So there is a margin of safety from the thrunk and crash bars. Safety equipment is key. Listen guys/gals, you gotta wear the best you can. I hit a Blazer S-10 (not the full size blazer), and took out the driver's glass, and all the side glass. Pluss I pushed in the drivers door beyond repair. His car looked totaled. I was wearing Boots, Levis, Hein Gerke Dakar Jacket, Shoei, and Motorport gloves. I have no cuts on my body, though my jacket shows the affect of glass, and how my shoulder and arm would have been shredded. No cuts or anything on my hands! No shin, ancle or foot damage! Even my glasses are fine. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet or been wearing one of those skull caps, FORGET IT! They would be marking me down a organ donor. So this morning, I went down to a big dealer (Kawa, Susk, Honda, Yama). Trying to see what my options were. NOTHING! I like the VFR, GPz, and the Connie. But nothing seams to do all that the PC can. Even though I would prefer the PC in black, I think I will probably get the new red one. Unless I can find a left over. What color were the 96's? Chris Klass NO 95 PC800 with 11,000 miles DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:09:17 -0500 From: Bob Coulter To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > > George Hudson wrote: > > > > Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her recent > > purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. > > As a recent purchaser of a new '96 demo model with 10 miles on it I > congratulate Karen and share similar sentiments of the excitement of a > new purchase. > > Also it's the only motorcycle I know > > of with only 1 mile on the odometer that already got it's first wash job :). > > Mine had 38 miles on it before I washed it, waxed it TWICE, and polished > the wheels! This insanity seems to be part of the human condition. :) > -- > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 242 miles and counting > Peace Be With You > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- Had to wash my new PC when we got it home; we brought it home on an open trailer and we went through snow, slush and road salt, which got thrown up on that beautiful new bike! I envy you your California weather... just read in the AAA magazine that Oceanside is rated 5th in the world for pleasant weather. San Diego was #2. We live in the snow belt of N.E. Ohio. We've had a pretty mild winter except for one week in Nov. when we got over 60 inches of snow! I've only put a total of 6 miles on my PC -- finally went out the other night with temps in the 30's.... but I felt much better afterward! Be safe, enjoy. Again, thanks to everyone who welcomed me to this list. Karen Coulter Chardon, Ohio '97 PC "Li'l Red" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Damn!!!!!!! From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 22 Mar 1997 17:18:26 -0600 Lines: 17 >>>>> "CK" == Chris Klass writes: Glad to hear you're OK. Not glad to hear that there was a reason to worry. Hopefully the idiot had insurance. CK> Safety equipment is key. Listen guys/gals, you gotta wear the best you CK> can. You've got it. I wear an Aerostich with all of the extra armor (hip pads and back protector; the hard pads are next, I think), gloves, combat boots and full face helmet. I live in Texas. People ask if I'm hot and I say yes, but the thought of body parts grinding off against concrete makes it feel somehow cooler. I still wouldn't give it up. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: robertc@en.com Cc: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:38:47 EST OK, OK, wise guy, you knew someone would have to ask. WHO is #1? Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com >just read in the AAA magazine that Oceanside is rated 5th in the world >for pleasant weather. San Diego was #2. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA11597 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:27:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:27:18 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights Greetings, All! Well, after a certain amount of watching what has been fired back and forth on the list server regarding the 1996 PC and Corbin Seats, I've decided that I'm going to stick with my stock seat. It's mostly comfortable. Perhaps I'll investigate Utopia's driver's backrest, I don't know. If any of you own that backrest, could you e-mail me and tell me how useful it is? At any rate, I'm looking now at other "must have" accessories other than the Corbin. I have the Rifle and Givi already. Specifically, I'm looking at Chatterbox intercoms, and I'd enjoy hearing from any of you that own one. Second, I am interested in the grip hand warmers, but wondering if there are any makes which simulate the stock hand grips. I really don't like the "spongy" grips some people put on their bikes. Finally, I am going to buy the Honda Trunk Lights, but I'm wondering if installation is easy enough for me to do it (I'm mechanically challenged), or if that's a Dealer job to do with the 8000 mile service. I'm going to expand the 1996's warranty the full six years ($650), which should cover me until 2002. By then, I'll be ready for Honda's newest sport tourer, or the Valkrye of that time. Thanks much, Chris Russell ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:18:16 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Jason L Tibbitts III CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Damn!!!!!!! Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > I wear an Aerostich with all of the extra armor... Hein Gericke Kilimanjaro 3/4 length leather jacket (Thing must weigh 15 lb....) Hein Gericke Nevada Touring leather pants Alpinestars 780 boots Arai Signet full face Feildsheer road race gloves Healthy dose of paranoia that everyone in a cage is trying to kill me... ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:20:12 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Richard A Hardy CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen <3334669D.6552@en.com> <19970322.153748.11526.0.RAHardy@juno.com> Richard A Hardy wrote: > > OK, OK, wise guy, you knew someone would have to ask. WHO is #1? Is this a "The Prisoner" trivia question?... ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:38:43 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: Damn!!!!!!! Chris, Glad to hear you are okay. Sounds similar to the accident that totalled my beloved CX-500 a dozen years ago. A woman coming from a Christmas party (read: slightly drunk) missed seeing 4 stop signs (two signs each on two posts, one on each side of the road), and clipped me, fortunately at a relatively slow speed. The difference was that I saw her coming, flashed my lights and blew my horn, but she just kept coming. My passenger and I flipped over her hood, and somehow landed without serious injury (I had a sore shin). As accidents go, it was a very good one, especially since the cop who arrived on the scene gave us a ride back to where my friend's car was parked, so we weren't stranded. The woman's insurance paid my new Virago, which never really made up for the CX, and which I traded some years later for the PC. Out of morbid curiousity: how fast were each of you going at impact? I hope you can charge this red-light-running scum with attempted homicide, or something really serious. Red light runners are a major pet peeve of mine, for obvious reasons. The '96 PCs were the BRIGHT rrred. Good luck (although you obviously have plenty of that) and good hunting for a new PC. Keep us informed of your progress, bike-wise and leagally. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Back in the village (Was: Congratulations Karen) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 22 Mar 1997 19:34:07 -0600 Lines: 7 >>>>> "RAH" == Richard A Hardy writes: RAH> WHO is #1? You are number six. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 22 Mar 1997 19:48:07 -0600 Lines: 16 >>>>> "C" == ChrisTUBA writes: C> Finally, I am going to buy the Honda Trunk Lights, but I'm wondering if C> installation is easy enough for me to do it (I'm mechanically C> challenged), or if that's a Dealer job to do with the 8000 mile service. It's pretty easy. They give you templates to cut out. You really, really want to have a Dremel tool (or other rotary cutting tool) to cut the holes out, though. See my message from _way_ back in the archives, at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/pc800/9407/msg00012.html. BTW, I'm going to take the archives down sometime tonight or tomorrow to completely regenerate them. It's obvious that something is badly hosed with the indexer. - J< by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with SMTP id UAA17829 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:47:40 -0500 (EST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:52:22 -0500 From: Chris Klass To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Accident Stats & Thanks I would like to thank everyone for all the care and support. It really has been very heart warming. Thanks! Nick asked me a bunch of good questions that I thought I would pass along the answers. If anyone else has any questions feel free. > Chris, > > I'm glad your ok. I have some questions... just curiousity on my part. > But to be informed of accidents, helps one to prevent/survive them. I > flew for the US Navy, and we were always discussing and learning from our > peers misfortunes. > > 1. About how fast were you going when you entered the intersection? -25-30mph > 2. Did the car brake at all. Before impact? After? -NO! And he "decieded" to stop 80 yards away! > 3. What kind of braking did you do? None, both, front alone, or rear alone? -Full on front with 60% rear. I was loading up the front, and didn't want to lose the rear. > 4. If you braked did you lock up a wheel? -Not the front, But the back locked up a little. > 5. What was the attitude of the bike at impact? -Head on into the driver door, and then my rear swung around > 6. Where were you in relationship to the bike and car when thins stopped? -The bike was on its right side 10 yards to the left of impact. I was next to it on the ground. > 7. Any trouble with other traffic? -No, after all he ran a red so no other traffic was coming. > 8. What did the police do? -VERY LITTLE! Me, the two EMS people, and the Cop's partner asked that the driver be given a breath test. The cop in charge wouldn't. He said that even though they were ALL under 21, and the 3 passengers smelled of booze, he was sure the driver wasn't drinking!!!! > > Thanks, > > Nick > Chris, > > Three more questions? > > How old are you? -30 > What bike did you ride before the PC? -95 Vulcan 800 > Any other accidents or close calls? -One 11 years ago. Very bad. Knocked my hand off my arm (it was still attached by muscle and other icky stuff). They were able to re-attach it. And it works fine. - I was young, stupid, inexperienced, and, well, I was drinking. (Something I don't do anymore. The drinking anymore. I still get stuck in stupid every once and a while) > > Nick ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:50:42 -0500 From: Bob Coulter To: Richard A Hardy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen <3334669D.6552@en.com> <19970322.153748.11526.0.RAHardy@juno.com> Richard A Hardy wrote: > > OK, OK, wise guy, you knew someone would have to ask. WHO is #1? > > Richard Hardy, San Diego > @juno.com > > >just read in the AAA magazine that Oceanside is rated 5th in the world > >for pleasant weather. San Diego was #2. Good thing I hadn't thrown the magazine out yet. AAA quotes Consumer Travel Publications "Pleasant Weather Ratings" for the top five best cities for weather in the world: 1) Las Palma, Canary Islands; 2) San Diego, CA, U.S.; 3) Casablanca, Morocco; 4) Port Elizabeth, South Africa; 5) Oceanside, CA, U.S. Karen Coulter Chardon, Ohio ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:54:57 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: Damn!!!!!!! Zoiks! Glad to hear you're not hurt badly. 96's were red. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:57:14 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights Chris, consider finding someone on the list that lives near you with a Corbin and try one before writing it off. Steve Seattle, WA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:56:17 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: klassc@webspan.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Damn!!!!!!! I'm really glad that you faired so well in this accident. Having had many close calls myself, in many varied vehicles and conditions, both on the ground and in the air, I can appreciate how you must feel. It's obvious that you prepare and ride very carefully. Even with all that, we all know that things can happen to ruin our days. May your future riding be blessed with many more much happier experiences. Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:04:10 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > Specifically, I'm looking at > Chatterbox intercoms, and I'd enjoy hearing from any of you that own one. Hi Chris! Most of us in our small So. Cal. Riding club, have been using the Maxon 49mhz radios. For less than $100, you can have two completely independent radios that you can use as an intercom, or from bike to bike. The ear-piece and mic come apart and are designed for use with a helmet. Harrison has the Chatterbox, so he will probably tell you about his. The Maxon's work very well, except for the problem of the shared 49mhz freq. (baby monitors, etc.). Phil (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:28:45 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:28:45 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: Superbike RESULTS Australia Well...I imagine you have seen the results, just thought I would throw in an eye-witness. The 1st race was ho-hum, J kocinski in a walk...no riders were within 10 seconds of another....but wet/dry plus they all claimed oil/gas on track all over. 2nd was a SUPER fight, 5 riders fighting and changing lead til the Japanese rider fell, then 4. Fogerty looked like the best for the longest, Crafar Kawasaki looked like he might pull something off, but really the MOST impressive ride was Edwards, as he was WAY back for LONG, then passed all to lead for the last 2 laps, but of course Slight just tucked in at the last corner and pulled out to pass by 1 length at the line!Looks like a CRAKER season! Ron in Brisbane. (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:28:39 +1000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:28:39 +1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ultspnch@ecn.net.au (Ronald Grant) Subject: superbike racing ha ha Ha! Seems the race is NOT live tv, here, delay 2 hours, so a radio, already said the 1st race results, lucky I forgot as tv starts in 10 minutes....anyways it looks like you guys have a web site for fast answers.....guys, I'm outta here as they say on Beavis and Btt, next contact from Sunny Lakeland! Ron in Brisbane. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: klassc@webspan.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Accident Stats & Thanks From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:51:46 EST Chris, let me pile on my condolences. BUT I want to know...did that dude who was struck by ano mtrcycle who crossed the center line on a curve ever get the other chap's insurance to pay for his PC? He was looking for the substitute and then I thought, "why settle for less," if you get an ins. settlement?" Answer pls. Thanks :) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: indian@starklite.com, indian@valiant.cds.tek.com Subject: This was ret. to me due to address error. Thot u'd enjoy it. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:51:46 EST --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: rochambeau@juno.com Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: hpu.uh.edu: host not found) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:51:24 -0500 This is a MIME-encapsulated message --TAA02168.859078284/x8.boston.juno.com The original message was received at Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:50:53 -0500 from rochambeau@juno.com ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- pc800@hpu.uh.edu (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 pc800@hpu.uh.edu... Host unknown (Name server: hpu.uh.edu: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- --TAA02168.859078284/x8.boston.juno.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpu.uh.edu Subject: Stickies & Le Louvre From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:50:53 EST If you are over 40 you may have a hard time reading the numbers on the PC speedometer. After a while you memorize the needle position vs. the speed it represents, like learning to dial a number without your glasses by locating the position of the buttons on the phone. One thing I decided, however, when my memory failed me on occasion and I'd stare at the speedo too much, thinking thinking, "am I really going 45 or is it 35?" I got out an old supply of plastic numbers and letters about 1/4 inch high and positioned them on the plastic over the speedometer and stuck them on 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. They are outside the periphery of the speedometer face and so don't block any of the factory markings on the speedometer. It heck to get old. Your eyes go and other things happen. I will be 60 in Aug. I was insulted for my age today. Have to tell this wierd story. I went to this new store to get some Levis. I went in the unisex dressing room area. The doors leave about 2 ft. space open at the bottom and are up to about 5 or 6 ft. high. The only vacant stall was at the far end. Seated on the floor between my door and her husband's door was a woman about 30 yrs. old. I thought it was strange. As I prepared to take off my pants I looked down thru the louvers which are angled down toward the floor and I am looking out at this guy's wife looking in at me. I was a bit bothered by it and hid myself as best I could in the corner. When I came out to model the latest in Levis for my wife I commented on my experience and with the thin walls was overheard by the perpetrator and her husband. "Something really wierd in there," I said, as another chap who came out with me nodded at me and smiled in agreement, "this gal is sitting on the floor and was looking right up thru the louvres in that door at me. Well her hubby comes out and says to me "that is my wife," and I said to him, "I am happy for you but what would you think if I were sitting there and your wife were in that dressing room and I were looking up thru those louvers at her standing there in her panties?" He knew I had him. He gave me a dirty look and returned to the dressing room area. Then his Mrs., staying still seated in front of those doors, goes off about like "well yeah, here I am really wanting to look at an old man in his forties." I wanted to tell her, "hey I'm 59!, but if you stay there long enough I am sure Mr. Right will come along." However, not wanting to escalate anything and realizing they both came to feel like a jerks, I just let it die. What about that? --TAA02168.859078284/x8.boston.juno.com-- --------- End forwarded message ---------- Sun, 23 Mar 1997 16:04:46 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:50:14 -0600 From: Gerri Ewing To: Pacific Coast ListServ CC: Mickey Radenz Subject: Ohhhh, Nooooooo!! "It was a beautiful day, the kind you want to toast." By far and away, yesterday was the prettiest day we have had in Houston, so far this year. So, here was the day's game plan... a little early morning bike maintenance, then spend the entire day ramblin around the by-ways of Texas with my bride. Imagine this... You have been sitting on the porcelin throne, doing your daily business. After completing the necessary paperwork, you stand, to pull up your britches. About halfway through this process, you hear, KERPLUNK. You turn only to see your wallet lying amongst what was yesterday's dinner. There is a certain sinking feeling you get as you stand there and wonder about the actual value of that wallet. Now, that is not exactly what happened to me. But, I did experience that same sinking feeling, when the old spark plug fell out of the wrench, between the heat shield and the engine. When I heard it land somewhere inside the bike, and not on the ground, I gave serious thought to letting it stay there. After four hours of disassembling my bike, I finally reached the errant plug. Then, there was the problem of putting "Humpty Dumpty" back together again. There has got to be a easier way to reteieve wayward parts from the bowels of the engine bay. I thought about hiring 2 BIG guys, named something like Bruno or Mongo, to turn the bike upside down and shake it. But the Mongos of the world must be in a Union that does not work on Saturdays. Take a bit of advice from a mechanically challenged biker buddy. Make sure the the rubber doofer in the plug plug wrench has a firm grip, before inserting, or removing your spark plugs. Otherwise, you could spend a day like I did, making up new cuss words. DeepintheheartofTexas Gerri, Cindy, and the "Jetson-mobile" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC in Ga From: kyle_n_ame@juno.com (Kyle & Ame A Lankford) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:19:27 EST Hello everyone- Spring is finally here in Georgia. The wife and I biked down to Warm Springs(a nice family town) from Atlanta last week. The was a '89 PC on a trailer at the Little White House(FDR's home away from home).The bike had an extender on the windshield, some classy gold detailing and 16,000 miles on it. The car had a Gwinnett tag. Anybody here? If you ever go down that way check out Pine Mountian. Or Pine Hill to some people. This weekend we went to the Incline Railway,Lookout Mountain, and Ruby Falls. ---Kyle Downtown Atlanta I drive like everybody wants to kill me---- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Off-road PC From: kyle_n_ame@juno.com (Kyle & Ame A Lankford) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:19:27 EST Howdy! Kyle here again -I've got three questions to ask y'awl out there 1)I'm a construction working, and I often have to drive off road to get to construction parking. Is there any way I can make my PC handle a little better than a fat pregnant cow in the mud? The bike fell one time when I hit some mud, no damage, just covered my white PC and me with clay. 2) Do I really have to take off all that plastic to get to the air filter?? Is there an aftermarket filter on the market? 3)How long does the alternator on a '90 PC last? I've got 65k on my PC now and am wondering if I should start worrying. Please respond -------------Kyle ------------------If they are not trying to kill me then they don't see me ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ruf@nconnect.net Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:25:30 -0600 (CST) To: GEwing@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Ohhhh, Nooooooo!! Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Gerri, A funny story and, unfortunately, all too true about dropping things. The Wisconsin weather is finally breaking a bit. Highs in the 40's. Whoopdeding!!! The top edge of my Honda tall windshield hits my lookers when I am sitting comfortably on the bike. Soooo... how about cutting off a bit of the shield. Yep!!! Took off windshield. Cut down with my trusty sabre saw and it worked well if I do say so myself. Yesterday, while trying to reattach the shield, I drop a screw. I drive myself screwy trying to find it. Figured I might as well start disassembling. WRONG!!! Can't get the right fairing protector to come off. @#$%^%$#$ plastic. Would you lend me Bruno and Mongo after you are finished with them???? Your first part reminded me of a story I recently heard. An old gentleman was at the Doc's office for his annual physical. While checking his vital signs etc. he asked the man how things were going. The old man said that things were going ok except for one problem. "I have a bowel movement every morning at 6:30 AM." The doc was kind of puzzled as the old man should be pleased to be able to evacuate the lower bowel on a daily basis. The old man then replied that he didn't get up until 8:00.... Deep in the heart of thawing Wisconsin. Bob Rufener '89 PC 800 "ORCA" At 09:50 AM 3/23/97 -0600, you wrote: >"It was a beautiful day, the kind you want to toast." By far and away, >yesterday was the prettiest day we have had in Houston, so far this >year. So, here was the day's game plan... a little early morning bike >maintenance, then spend the entire day ramblin around the by-ways of >Texas with my bride. > >Imagine this... You have been sitting on the porcelin throne, doing your >daily business. After completing the necessary paperwork, you stand, to >pull up your britches. About halfway through this process, you hear, >KERPLUNK. You turn only to see your wallet lying amongst what was >yesterday's dinner. There is a certain sinking feeling you get as you >stand there and wonder about the actual value of that wallet. > >Now, that is not exactly what happened to me. But, I did experience that >same sinking feeling, when the old spark plug fell out of the wrench, >between the heat shield and the engine. When I heard it land somewhere >inside the bike, and not on the ground, I gave serious thought to >letting it stay there. After four hours of disassembling my bike, I >finally reached the errant plug. Then, there was the problem of putting >"Humpty Dumpty" back together again. > >There has got to be a easier way to reteieve wayward parts from the >bowels of the engine bay. I thought about hiring 2 BIG guys, named >something like Bruno or Mongo, to turn the bike upside down and shake >it. But the Mongos of the world must be in a Union that does not work on >Saturdays. > >Take a bit of advice from a mechanically challenged biker buddy. Make >sure the the rubber doofer in the plug plug wrench has a firm grip, >before inserting, or removing your spark plugs. Otherwise, you could >spend a day like I did, making up new cuss words. > >DeepintheheartofTexas >Gerri, Cindy, and the "Jetson-mobile" >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:30:47 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: Ronald Grant Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, Andy CBX , Andy Luke Subject: Re: superbike racing ha ha Don't forget the Elmer's this time, dummy. World Superbike Championship World Superbike Championship Phillip Island, Australia Race results: Sunday, March 23, 1997 RACE ONE: 1. John Kociinski (Hon); 2. Carl Fogarty (Duc); 3. Simon Crafar (Kaw); 4. Akira Yanagawa (Kaw); 5. Troy Bayliss (Suz); 6. Martin Craggill (Kaw); 7. Scott Russell (Yam); 8. Andreas Meklau (Duc); 9. Shawn Giles (Hon); 10. Pere Riba Cabana (Hon); 11. Jason Love (Duc); 12. Igor Jerman (Kaw); 13. Benn Archibald (Kaw); 14. Greg Moss (Hon); 15. Craig Stafford (Yam); 16. Steve Martin (Suz); 17. Stephen Tozer (Kaw); 18. Simon Middleton (Kaw). Time of race: 41:16.551 Margin of victory: 15.722s Fastest lap: John Kocinski, 1:49.306 NOTES: Wet race. RACE TWO: 1. Aaron Slight (Hon); 2. Colin Edwards II (Yam); 3. Simon Crafar (Kaw); 4. Carl Fogarty (Duc); 5. Troy Bayliss (Suz); 6. Scott Russell (Yam); 7. John Kocinski (Hon); 8. Damon Buckmaster (Kaw); 9. Martin Craggill (Kaw); 10. Shawn Giles (Hon); 11. Craig Connell (Duc); 12. Piergiorgio Bontempi (Kaw); 13. James Whitham (Suz); 14. James Haydon (Duc); 15. Andreas Meklau (Duc); 16. Jason Love (Duc); 17. Pere Riba Cabana (Hon); 18. David Emmerson (Suz); 19. Craig Stafford (Yam); 20. Stephen Tozer (Kaw); 21. John Orchard (Unk). Time of race: 35:33.916 Margin of victory: 0.033s Fastest lap: Colin Edwards II, 1:36.078 WORLD SUPERBIKE CHAMPIONSHIP POINT STANDINGS (after 2 of 24 rounds): 1. John Kocinski (34); 2. Carl Fogarty (33); 3. Simon Crafar (32); 4. Aaron Slight (25); 5. Troy Bayliss (22); 6. Colin Edwards II (20); 7. Scott Russell (19); 8. Martin Craggill (17); 9. Akira Yanagawa (13); 10. Andreas Meklau (11); 11. Pere Riba Cabana (9); 12. Damon Buckmaster (8); 13. (TIE) Piergiorgio Bontempi/Igor Jerman (6); 15. (TIE) James Whitham/Benn Archibald (5); 17. James Haydon (4); 18. David Emmerson (1). by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA06091 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:35:13 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:35:13 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Dave Lott Subject: Upcoming GA Rides Just wanted everyone to know about some upcoming rides sponsored by the GA HSTA. On Sunday, April 6 meet at the Shoney's at Highway #20 and GA 400 at 9:00. The ride will last all day with plans to meet back at State Director Glenn & MerryBelle Hodges house at 4:00 for munchies and storytelling. GA HSTA is again running the Helen Event this year on May 16 - 18. Official hotel is the Days Inn in Helen (706/ 878-3177) and rates are $55 per night if made before May 1. Those that have ridden in this area know the great roads that have made North Georgia a favorite for motorcyclists. There will be a variety of routes and lot's of other activities available (golfing, whitewater rafting, tubing, shopping (Warning, Helen has a good sized outlet mall) and great eating spots. FYI, Helen is the ending point for the Atlanta Ride for Kids ride and the city has always welcomed motorcyclists. Hope you will be able to join us. If you have any questions, let me know or call Glenn Hodges at (770) 476-8442. Ride as if your life depended on it! \ Dave Lott \\ .__=. \ \____ ,' -(@)\-\<) Marietta, GA \__ \ (_______/_:\ >==.\ \___,' /# #\ | : \____ 1989 PC ,\\\___/|_|##(O)##| `./\---. / ,`--' ,======'//, //.\ . \ ( ______)_//<_> O//// ( (@O ) ) (________/ ====='o' \ `-' / `----' `---' ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: robertc@en.com Cc: rahardy@juno.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen From: rahardy@juno.com (Richard A Hardy) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:35:00 EST Thanks Karen. So, San Diego is #1 in America and #2 in the world - I'll settle for that. That's why I moved here from Maine. Richard Hardy, San Diego @juno.com On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:50:42 -0500 Bob Coulter writes: >Richard A Hardy wrote: >> >> OK, OK, wise guy, you knew someone would have to ask. WHO is #1? >> >> Richard Hardy, San Diego >> @juno.com >> >> >just read in the AAA magazine that Oceanside is rated 5th in the >world >> >for pleasant weather. San Diego was #2. > >Good thing I hadn't thrown the magazine out yet. AAA quotes Consumer >Travel Publications "Pleasant Weather Ratings" for the top five best >cities for weather in the world: 1) Las Palma, Canary Islands; 2) San >Diego, CA, U.S.; 3) Casablanca, Morocco; 4) Port Elizabeth, South >Africa; 5) Oceanside, CA, U.S. > >Karen Coulter >Chardon, Ohio > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:46:23 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Imitation GIVI! Hi Y'all! I just installed a soft-side bag called the Ultra Guard. It's actually designed for the Gold Wing, but I think it looks pretty good on the PC. Johan Lai had shown me this bag about a month ago, and I liked it, so I bought one and put it on my PC. If you're curious, check out http://www.concentric.net/~Pilewis1/pcphotos/ULTRAGRD.HTM. It's really no substitute for the GIVI, but it's a lot less expensive. Warmer Riding Days Ahead, Phil Lewis So. Cal. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:10:06 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: 5th Annual MOMMA's Ride!!! To: "Fellow PC800's" sorry for the repost......but i wasnt succesfully subscribed per the mailer thing... I just wanna make sure this is out on the wire... ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 13-03-1997 12:15 AM RE: 5th Annual MOMMA's Ride!!! ********YOUR INVITED TO COME RIDE WITH US!!!!!!!************ ====ATTENTION!! - if you are with in the sound of my voice, READ ON!!!===== (or at least with in sight of Southern Ohio) Well the 1997 ridding season is or will be underway. Sheila and Daryl Cassada are excited to co-ordinate the 5-th Annual MOMMA'S Ride, which will be held on Saturday, April 12th, 1997 -Rain or Shine perferabbly shine)! If you have been on this ride you know it's a greta way to start the riding season, last year over 60 riders turned out. Good roads, good food, good people. We'll visit Middletown Honda, (about 11am est),Catch-up with the Indiana Squadron of the HSTA-being led by Carl Freed, then meet the staff. Gary, Gene and the staff there that will be glad to help you wiht any needed parts, accessories and apparel. Check out new motorcycles from Honda, Kawasaki, and Yamaha. Enjoy some refreshments and door prizes. from there, at about 12:30pm est, we will travel to MOMMA's Great American Diner, in downtown Leesburg, Ohio right on route 28 about 1hour out from Cincy. Meet Rick and Debbie Sansone owners and fellow motorcyclist enthusiats and members of HSTA!!!....Group Pix planned for about 2pm or 3... If you wanna meet up with us and ride out from Cincy call DARYL Cassada @ 513-739-1511 Hope to see some new faces, and familiar ones too!! And maybe see some new motorcycles! Let's get together! See YA! Daryl & Sheila Cassada..... this message brought to you by Fireman_Joe Joe Beresford Cincinnati, Ohio ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:10:16 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: Off-road PC To: Kyle & Ame A Lankford , "Fellow PC800's" reference the pc800 in mud 1) well lets see On a summer vacation in 95 doing the Alaska Highway, I was able to almost outperform a Trans-alp enduro bike on a particular muddy road to chicken just outside TOK, funy though it only rained for a short while , but when a motorhome passed me by sliding sideways... i figured that 20 miles was enough an turned around.that and the fact I was'bulldozing', the front wheel was locking up with so much mud......whats really funny about this ditty is the person riding the trans alp was some great guy I know and is a pres of some Honda club..... Haveing ridden a dirt bike as a kid does finally have some advantage.....just good tires is the best I could advised when I lived in GA...I bouught some knobby like tire's for the bike (suzuki400) i had then...it really helped ... 2) yes kyle you have to take off the plastic, not to bad the sides, seat, I replaced my aire filter a few times now.....there is a car air filter that can be modified to fit... I forget which one.. 3) the 89's apparetnly had a altrntor prob..but so far folks say the 90 on should be good. roger prince can tell you he has been thru 4 PC800's and last I heard he was clossing in on the million mile mark with the PC800 under him and his wife... just some thoughts Happy Ridding!!!!! pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:15:38 CST 23 Mar 1997 18:10:34 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:10:09 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: hello,: tire/muffler question To: "Fellow PC800's" HI GANG!!! I am back online... Has anyone got some good alternatives to the dunlop 177 for the PC...last year when metzler came out with the MEZ2 I thought i'd wait an see if they would develop a size for the PC800....... And on the way back from the MARATIMES last year my mufffler started to sound funny, someone has suggested that my baffles may have let go...it's a tingy twangy sound, and NO its not cause I got the darn radio cranked, for those of you that know me you can hear my tunes before you see me....(HSTA)... grin...... Joe Beresford aka: Fireman Joe 90 PC800 Cincinnati, Ohio Fireman_Joe@Compuserve.com Cableguy@one.net for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:33:08 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Tires, radio problems Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:30:21 -0700 >>>> I put a Metzler ME-33 on the front and it works extremely well. Very sticky and consistent feeling. (Although in previous bikes they only last about 7000 miles). It took a month and half to come in from Germany though. (Not very happy about that and I hope Metzler is listening) I have no idea what to put on the back though because the matching ME-55 does not come in the correct size. Would like to hear ideas. Have an '89 with the stock Kenwood/Honda radio but did not have a helmet hookup. Have spent $300 on a J& M system now to get it to the helmet but all I really get it engine noise. Spent $50 more last week on a J&M noise filter and now I can hear it at least but it is still solid engine noise and there is no way you could listen to it for my than five minutes. Ideas? Suggestions? Help? Beautiful riding day here in Colorado hope everyone else had the same. Thanx ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Curioso From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:52:06 EST I just got and perused the Dennis Kirk catalog. He has dropped Shoei helmets. I called 2 ask why and the lady said that they don't tell those things to the ladies who answer the phone. Any ideas? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:29:01 -0500 From: Bob Coulter To: "Alan D. Smith" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Congratulations Karen Alan D. Smith wrote: > > Karen, > > Congrats on the new bike! Best wishes for a zillion safe and > happy miles. Maybe we'll bump into you this year. > > Alan > '89 PC800 > '94 XV535 (The Better Half's) > > Broadview Heights, Oh Thanks, Alan. If you see an '89 beige Gold Wing (my husband's) and my '97 "Li'l Red" PC out and about, give us a wave. I'm really excited about this bike and looking forward to some nice riding weather. Many, many safe miles to both of you! Karen Coulter Chardon, Oh by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA01524; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:51:51 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:51:51 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: Damn!!!!!!! To: klassc@webspan.net Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >My bike was totaled when I plowed into a guy runing a red light. I am >ok, no broken bones. Just sore. VERY SORE!!!! > >I was wearing Boots, Levis, Hein Gerke Dakar Jacket, Shoei, and >Motorport gloves. > Chris - Glad you're ok. I thought you had a Motoport GP1 Kevlar jacket? Or do you save it for the dangerous rides? Happy hunting for a new ride, and nail that idiot to the fence if you can. Greg for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:15:57 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: Subject: Motorcycle Museum Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:09:28 -0500 Ron, The following is from the Moto Guzzi National Owners Club. I don't have a Guzzi but belong to the club. Barber Vintage Motosports Museum The largest motorcycle museum (according to their brochure) is loacted in Birmingham,Alabama. Admission is $5. Museum hours Wednesday-Friday 9am to 3pm. Directions: Located at 2721 5th Avenue South, Birmingham, Alabama. >From highways 280/31 exit on 3rd/4th Avenue South, go to 5th Avenue South and turn left. Museum located on the right. I have read about this museum in several mags. and it is suppost to be great. Thanks, Vince Santamaria 6553 Winkler Rd Fort Myers FL 33919 (941) 433 5375 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:32:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:32:48 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Exhausted I'm not sure whether my last question via e-mail made it to the list, so here goes again... Does anyone know of an aftermarket exhaust that will work with the PC? I would be interested to know if there is anything that can help the bike sound like something other than a golf cart (I keep expecting it to stop running everytime I come to a stop light, then start again as soon as I roll on the throttle). Not looking for anything loud at all, just more character. Any thoughts? Thanks, Eric '89 PC800 Pittsburgh, PA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:06:19 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Tires, radio problems Hopkins, Henning & Robuck wrote: > It took a month and half to come in from Germany > though. (Not very happy about that and I hope Metzler is listening) That's quick for Metzler. I waited 4+ months for a set of Metzlers for a CB-1000... ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:13:58 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Indianridr@aol.com CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800 Exhausted Indianridr@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know of an aftermarket exhaust that will work with the PC? I vaguely remember reading the archives about Two Brothers Racing attempting to make an exhaust system for the PC, but abandoned the idea. Then again, it's Monday morning and only my autonomic functions seem to be working at the moment... :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA18710 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:15:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:15:08 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Motorcycle Museum Hi Vince: In a message dated 97-03-23 22:32:50 EST, you wrote: << I have read about this museum in several mags. and it is suppost to be great. >> I was there last year (during the Olympics), and it is in fact well worth seeing. JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: BBrick@packer.edu (Barbara Brick) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:32:21 GMT Subject: Ecuador Inquiry Are there any of you out there from Ecuador. Can you contact me? bbrick@Packer.edu Many thanks, ------------------------- Packer Collegiate Institute Brooklyn, NY USA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: First ride O'spring! Hi, Gang, Picked my bike up from storage on Friday. BTW, if anybody in Northern Ohio wants great service from great people, Breyley Yamaha in North Royalton is THE place to go. It's where we bought my wife's Virago, and our experience with them, from day one, has been outstanding. Anyway, picked up the PC Friday afternoon in 60 degree whether. Got to spend an hour trying out the brand new 177's and was VERY impressed. Of course, I have never ridden on brand new tires so my standard s might be pretty low, but those tires really stuck like glue. Very glad I got them. The Givi top box is also very nice. It holds a LOT of stuff, is really easy to remove, and doesn't really look bad on the bike. That is one well-made piece. And thanks to all the advice on it that I got from various group memebers. And another thank you, this one to Phil Lewis for his info on the Tenzo Driving Lights. They look excellent and they work REALLY well. I had two different bikers wait for me to ask what they were because they were so visible. And that's good news, to say the least. For $69.00 they are a steal. Oh, yesterday it went up to 36 and snowed. Damn, I've got to move. I could not believe how nice it was to ride after almost five months. The smile on my face lasted long into Friday night. Alan '89 PC800 '94 XV535 (The Better Half's) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:27:00 -0500 To: pohys@singnet.com.sg, pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Cheryl L. Johnson" Subject: Re: Black and Busted At 11:59 PM 3/19/97 +0800, Poh Yu Seung wrote: >Hi everyone, >Mechanically everything seems fine, but I dropped her just coming off >the main stand today. The two crash protectors are really scratched up >and the mirror popped off. >As it was about to fall, I decided I shouldn't fight it (cause I don't >want to pull/sprain a muscle). Really embarrased myself in the perking >lot! >Or wrestling a PC back up before she falls away from you? >Yu Seung from Singapore Hi Yu, The way I get the PC off the centerstand is to straddle it, and then rock it forward. I am then able to control it much better if it starts to lean to one side or the other. In fact, I don't think I've ever tried it standing to the side. My friend has a '94 and when I watch him do it, it makes me somewhat anxious, kind of like when I saw my son take his first steps, you want to run over and put your hands out, just in case. Will Johnson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: VicarDon@aol.com by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA21839 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu.; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:51:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:51:57 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: New to list Hello, Let me introduce myself. I am new to this list. I'm Don Bowery (VICAR DON @AOL.COM), live in Mountain City, TN (extreme NE tip of TN, 25 miles from the Blue Ridge Pkwy and about 125 miles N. of Deal's Gap.) There are some great riding roads here in our county (Johnson). I am the pastor of First Baptist Church, here in Mtn. City. You would enjoy hearing the gossip by some of my older church members when I started riding. "I can't believe our pastor is riding a motorcycle..." I have had a lot of fun with this. I am 49 years old and started riding last year. I learned on an ‘82 Yamaha 650 Maxim, then rode a ‘94 Yamaha Virago, and traded it for a ‘94 Honda Magna. Couple of weeks ago I traded the Magna for a ‘97 PC800. I purchased it from Tom Hayes at Atlas Honda in Bristol, VA. Excellent person and dealership. If you are ever in this area and need assistance, they will treat you right and are very competent. I'll be taking it in for the 600 mile service this Thursday. The Magna was a very powerful and comfortable custom cruiser. I wanted something that was sharper in handling and less laid back and clunky. I was afraid that the PC800 would be underpowered. I have been pleasantly surprised; it has adequate power along with excellent handling and a comfortable riding position except for wind buffeting. I am 6'2" and weigh 245 lbs and am thinking about a Corbin seat (best modification I made to my Magna) to lower me 1 ½ inch in the saddle. Hope this helps decrease the wind buffeting around the helmet area. However, I am afraid that it might make for a cramped riding position. Any thoughts on this? I'll let you know how it goes if I get one. If the Corbin doesn't work then I'll probably try the Rifle windscreen to stifle the wind buffeting. I solved my tank bag problem by taking the magnets out and using several strategically located verco strips. Work just fine, if I keep the front of the bag compressed to prevent the starter and horn from being accidentally activated in sharp turns. I have installed a Hondaline analog quartz clock in the right speaker area (cut a hole out with a hole drill saw). Looks good. I have also installed a Vista throttle lock. Both of these modifications work very well. Are there anything I should be aware of in the 600 mile service? This is the first new bike I have owned and am not sure what they should be looking for, other than changing oil and idle speed. Good riding to all, Don Bowery 24 Mar 1997 09:04:34 -0700 (PDT) <01BC3832.B6926920@cypspain.ug.eds.com>; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:06:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:06:45 -0800 From: Harrison Spain <_spain@edsug.com> Subject: FW: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights To: "'PC800 Mailing List'" I must admit that I'm into convenience :-). I picked the Chatterbox before we found the Maxon units. I like the Chatterbox 'package' since everything fits (clips nicely) on the helmet. The controls are easy to adjust but I've found that 'at speed' I can't get the VOX (voice activated switch) to work properly. This may be a function of my helmet (RF700?). My ultimate solution is to wire the Chatterbox into the bike itself and just use a simple cable to my helmet. Then with a switch on the handlebar, control the PTT :-). This setup will also allow me to switch back and forth between my Chatterbox and my Ham radio :-). Harrison Most of us in our small So. Cal. Riding club, have been using the Maxon 49mhz radios. For less than $100, you can have two completely independent radios that you can use as an intercom, or from bike to bike. The ear-piece and mic come apart and are designed for use with a helmet. Harrison has the Chatterbox, so he will probably tell you about his. The Maxon's work very well, except for the problem of the shared 49mhz freq. (baby monitors, etc.). ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:16:47 -0500 Subject: RE: Black and Busted Will Johnson wrote.. >Hi Yu, >The way I get the PC off the centerstand is to straddle it, and then rock >it forward. >I am then able to control it much better if it starts to lean to one side >or the other. In fact, I don't think I've ever tried it standing to the side. My friend >has a '94 and when I watch him do it, it makes me somewhat anxious, kind of like >when I saw my son take his first steps, you want to run over and put your hands >out, just in case Excellent advice Will ! I am 6' 2", over 210 lbs, and I wouldn't even think of popping it off the center stand without being on the bike. I have a friend that used to do stand next to his Gold Wing all the time when popping off of the stand. One day, after many years of this, he popped it off the stand, it started to lean away, and he pulled. Well, when the smoke cleared, he had a small hernia, and was doubled over in pain, holding the left grip! (We were also doubled over, but for different reasons!) I was at my dealer on Saturday, to look at my PC800 which I bought Feb 28th, 1997 . (I am hoping to pick it up next week). There is a guy there who is about 5' 7" who is amazing when it comes to moving these things around. I watched him walk a Valkyrie (Honda Civic with two wheels missing) through the showroom, steering between bikes, and then hold it there with one hand while he opened the shop door, and bent down to put the door stopper under the door! Wow! I realize that this ability comes with experience, but I don't know how comfortable I would be doing this with my own bike on regular parking lot surfaces. (oil, spilled McDonalds coke, gum wrappers, etc) my .02 cents...well, maybe a nickel ! Francois Saint Laurent 95 PC800 - 482 miles. I can't wait for the snow to melt! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:05:47 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > I'm looking now at other "must have" accessories other than the > Corbin. I have the Rifle and Givi already. Specifically, I'm looking at > Chatterbox intercoms, and I'd enjoy hearing from any of you that own one. > I have the little matchbox size chatterbox along with another headset and the intercom patch cord. It uses the little hearing aid batteries which last about four hours of continuous use and can be bought in a six pack for reasonable cost. I would still be using it except our local PC riders group( Southern California Pacific Coast Riders Club) uses short range FM radios (maxxon) for interbike communication. Since both my wife and I have one each we also use it now for the intercom. For minimal cost, size, and installation bother the little chatterbox can't be beat. Drawbacks: you can't recharge the batteries-carry extras, you have to unhook the cord between you and pax when dismounting, and you can't use it to talk to other bikes; it is stictly an intercom. On the plus side: it's the smallest and lightest system out there, it's very inexpensive compared to a bike installed system, it's completely simple, and it works. Note: the system has a female minijack for input from a personal stereo. I tried hooking up my walkman to it and you could only barely hear it even with the volume up all the way. Someone else mentioned on the net that he/she, had the same problem so I wouldn't count on that feature. BTW since I am now using the FM interbike radio I wouldn't mind parting with my Chatterbox at nominal cost to you. It's unused right now just sitting in the cabinet where it will stay for the next ten years after which I then will throw it out while cleaning the garage. Let me know if you're interested. (I still have to buy my GiVi and Corbin.) -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 126 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:49:31 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: E-Mail Change Of Address At 03:59 PM 3/21/97 -0800, you wrote: >=20 >Of course Tim is from Oregon. Down south here, we'all say y'all. By the= =20 >way, isn't Juno in Alaska? Ummm... That would be Juneau, not Juno. Juno (j=A1=B4no), in Roman mythology, wife and sister of JUPITER; great= goddess of the state. Sounds a little incestuos to me. :-) Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the= snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:10:42 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: dkgross@halcyon.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: lights Dave Gross wrote: > > hey...I must have missed it somehwere.....where's the details on the > trunk light kit? Love the new bag thingy! Damn, I wish I could find > a trunk spoiler for my '89...whaaaaaaa > -- > > Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC > http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross Hi Dave! I think a few others have installed the factory trunk lights, but Johan did it not too long ago, and I'm sure he will give you the details! :) On the UltraGard bag, that some others have asked about; I bought mine at a local Honda dealer in Huntingon Beach, Ca. Huntington Honda Specializes in Gold Wings and has a lot of accessories. This one just happens to fit the PC. Johan got one at a place called Cycle City, but when I went there, they didn't have a black one, just plum and green. Yes, they come in a few different colors. I had to pay a little more than Johan's; his was I think $45, and mine was $54. It would probably hang over a little, without the spoiler, but it could be reinforced from the inside to give it more solidity. I'm using a piece of stiff in-door/out-door carpet on the inside of mine. As for the spoiler, some other riders in the past have said that it's not avialable from Honda. Mine was installed by the previous owner April 5th, of 1993. If it helps, the part number is OBF63-MR5-A40. The manufacturer number is (or was) 3329562 HD HHP, SPOILER, REAR, RED. The price was $159.95. Y'all take care, Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:19:42 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Imitation GIVI! At 11:46 AM 3/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >It's really no substitute for the GIVI, but it's a lot less expensive. The bag looks good! My only concern would be scuffing of the paint when dust got between the bag and the bike. Did you prepare the bag for this? Here is a tip for those of you who do not have the spoiler: If you can't afford the whole GiVi setup, get the rack only. It works and looks great, and would hold the aformentioned bag (or any other bag) with no problems and, of course, you can always pop on a Givi bag later on. The rack is probably less expensive than the spoiler (if you can get one) and you won't have to worry about scratching it. Phil, I like the third brake light you added. Any comments on it and the spare turn signals you installed? (you must have the PC with the widest butt right now) :-) Cheers. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:24:44 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Ohhhh, Nooooooo!! At 10:25 AM 3/23/97 -0600, Bob wrote: > Can't get the >right fairing protector to come off. @#$%^%$#$ plastic. Would you lend me >Bruno and Mongo after you are finished with them???? I am not implying anything here, but, did you remove the allen bolt from underneath the protector before you started yanking? Happened to me once, felt pretty silly afterwards. Just a thought. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:28:57 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Damn!!!!!!! At 05:16 PM 3/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >So quick, not so good news. > >Well, um, lets put it this way. I was looking for a new bike this >morning. Chris, sorry to hear about your accident. You were indeed lucky that you came out in one piece. And hope the idiot that caused it never looks at another motorcycle without remembering the damage he did and could have caused. At least your PC got even by totaling his cage. Good luck finding a new ride, here's hoping it will be another PC. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:33:50 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Ohhhh, Nooooooo!! At 09:50 AM 3/23/97 -0600, you wrote: >There has got to be a easier way to reteieve wayward parts from the >bowels of the engine bay. I thought about hiring 2 BIG guys, named >something like Bruno or Mongo, to turn the bike upside down and shake >it. But the Mongos of the world must be in a Union that does not work on >Saturdays. Gerri, I now exactly what you felt, since it happened to me early on in my PC ownership. Fortunately, I was prepared (read lucky) and had one of those telescopic/swivel magnets in my tool box. A few tries (with the tongue twisted just so) netted the wayward plug with no further cussing or busted knuckles. I now never leave home with out this handy tool! Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:40:22 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Off-road PC At 11:19 AM 3/23/97 EST, you wrote: >Howdy! > > Kyle here again >-I've got three questions to ask y'awl out there >1)I'm a construction working, and I often have to drive off road to get >to construction parking. Is there any way I can make my PC handle a >little better than a fat pregnant cow in the mud? The bike fell one time >when I hit some mud, no damage, just covered my white PC and me with >clay. Well, the Metzler ML2's have amore agressive tread, which helps, marginally. Other than that, the PC hates dirt/gravel/mud. Best to practice with a light Dual Sport and then apply the experience to the PC. >2) Do I really have to take off all that plastic to get to the air >filter?? What exactly do you mean by "all that plastic?". I count, lesseee... 7 pieces total to get to the air filter housing. Is this right everybody? >Is there an aftermarket filter on the market? Nope, unfortunately. You may be able to fabricate one though. Or, as someone suggested, send it to a place that cleans up diesel rig filters. I looked here, they no longer have one, sigh... >3)How long does the alternator on a '90 PC last? I've got 65k on my PC >now and am wondering if I should start worrying. I've yet to hear from a '90 + PC have alternator problems. Good luck! Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: TWISTAR From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:16:02 EST For those of you who are thinking of attending TWISTAR 4, Spring Green, Wi. has a very informative web page. It includes: a restaurant guide, a recreation guide and a driving tour of Frank Lloyd Wright buildings in the area. Check it out at: www.execpc.com/~spring. Kay and I will be staying at The Usonian Inn which was designed by Wright. Mike Larson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ChrisTUBA@AOL.COM, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:34:11 EST From: James Hyder Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights Addressed to: ChrisTUBA@AOL.COM pc800@hpc.uh.edu ** Reply to note from ChrisTUBA@AOL.COM Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:27:18 -0500 (EST) > Finally, I am going to buy > the Honda Trunk Lights, but I'm wondering if installation is easy enough > for me to do it (I'm mechanically challenged), or if that's a Dealer job to > do with the 8000 mile service. Why spend $50+ on the Honda trunk lights, plus some work that is apparently a little trickier than the average "mechanically challenged" person may want to try (see the archives), when you can go to your local auto parts store and for $5 buy a trunk light with a mercury switch built in? Cheaper and simpler to install. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:25:05 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: James Hyder CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights James Hyder wrote: > ...when you can go to your local auto > parts store and for $5 buy a trunk light with a mercury switch built in? This may be of concern to those with radios in their PCs. The mercury switch will most likely make intermittent contact when subjected to the harsher suspension of a bike Vs your average car. This will make itself most apparent on the AM band (Just as lightning does) and to a lesser degree on the FM band. Unlike your refrigerator, you *will* know when your trunk light is momentarily on... ;-) This is what happened to the angle sensors in Gold Wings. The damping fluid leaked out and the contacts were free to move faster than they should have, causing some very interesting effects... gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Indianridr@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Exhausted From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:08:44 EST Your question surely did get on the net. Both times. Seriously, I don't know if there's anything out there. Maybe some place that does custom exhausts? Take it off and drill some holes in it??? Good luck. I am happy with mine as it is, but I believe you should go for it if you want a more voluminous sound. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: garyklim@snet.net Cc: Indianridr@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Exhausted From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:08:44 EST Would that be the Gross brothers? Or Mongo and Bongo? \Am I bad or what? On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:13:58 -0500 "Gary E. Klim" writes: >Indianridr@aol.com wrote: > >> Does anyone know of an aftermarket exhaust that will work with the >PC? > >I vaguely remember reading the archives about Two Brothers Racing >attempting to make an exhaust system for the PC, but abandoned the >idea. >Then again, it's Monday morning and only my autonomic functions seem >to >be working at the moment... :-) >________________________________________________________________________ >Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net >________________________________________________________________________ >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Black and Busted From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:08:45 EST Bonjour Francois St. Laurent. I enjoyed your comments on getting bikes of center stands. If I were taller than 5'2" I would have a Gold Wing. I got this PC because it is something I can handle. I can barely get 2 tippie toes on the grnd. Not long ago I read a letter to an editor of a bike magazine. The guy complained about bikes being too high for little people. The editor was less than unsympathetic. He said you can do with one foot on the ground. Just learn to do it. Get on and ride and quit complaining. I took that message to heart and got the PC on the strength of that advice in light of the fact that I can barely get my 2 big toes on the ground. I have become quite adept at it and find it no problem . I had to think I can only put one foot on the grnd with that Indian anyway lest that clutch pop out and off I go. I thought back to handling a tall '73 Z--1 Kawasaki (I had the 1st one in Phoenix AZ) and handling my super heavy 89 Harley Springer. I am a faithful weight lifter and that makes a bike a lot lighter to manipulate around while walking alongside it. Comments? Francois, etes vous dans Quebec o la France? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: VicarDon@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: New to list From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:08:45 EST Hi Pastor. Your story of blowing your congregations' minds being a biker preacher reminds me of a guy years ago in my high school days who had his Harley parked behind his Jewish Temple and after confirmation class one Wednesday afternoon about 4:30 he and his classmates were walking to the parking lot. The old Rabbi accompanied them and began to ask questions about the Harley. The class kind of gathered around the Harley, which I believe is a rare vehicle in the parking lot at any Jewish house of worship--especially in those days. Well they stood around and the Rabbi asked my pal if he could ride it. My pal asked if he had ever rode a MC and Rabbi nodded yes. So the kid started the Harley and let the Rabbi get on, and the old man pushed the clutch in, slapped it in first and went out in the street and really got on it leaning into a tight turn and cranking the old hog on and you could hear those pipes as he sped away. Turns out the Rabbi was a Chaplain during the war (WW2) and had a pal who taught him how to ride a military cycle where he was stationed. From that day forward that Rabbi had a changed image amongst all his parishoners as the story spread thru Sioux City (Iowa) like wild fire. Even the Rabbi's attitude changed. All of us motorcyclists hoped he would go out and buy himself a Harley but he never did. He just rested on the laurels of that dramatic ride. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Pricing of 1996 models. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:08:45 EST I received a call from the new slsmgr of Coleman Powersport, the Honda dlr nearest me. I had written him a note including the pricing told me by others buyers of 1996 PCs in 1996. I asked him how he justified that. He said that because I bought it in April I would have paid the highest price. He also added he has a high floor cost as he stocks more bikes that most of the area's competition altogether between his store in Falls Church and Woodbridge (Virginia suburb towns near Wash., D.C). I added that we are in the one of the highest, if not THE highest tax area in the country and the cost of doing business and insurance is astronomical here. He agreed that might be a factor. At any rate he was very nice and said to be sure to say hi when I come in. They just picked him up from a Lexus dealer and Coleman's sales floor is run just like a car dealer. You go in a box with a salesman or atleast sit at his desk and you dicker and he runs to the slsmgr. in the high tower and asks for the best price for you. Actually it is a bit nauseating when I think of all the warm friendships I had with mc dlrs in all the past years going back to Bud Albrecht (who is still alive) who sold me my 1st bike, a '49 Harley 125 in 1952. The price I'd paid was $8299 and others wrote in saying they paid only $7100 or $7200. I would be interested in hearing in what month of the yr. they bought their '96 for that price. Bye ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA06379 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:41:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:41:07 -0500 (EST) To: Indianridr@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Exhausted In a message dated 97-03-24 00:34:05 EST, Indianridr@aol.com writes: << Does anyone know of an aftermarket exhaust that will work with the PC? I would be interested to know if there is anything that can help the bike sound like something other than a golf cart (I keep expecting it to stop running everytime I come to a stop light, then start again as soon as I roll on the throttle). Not looking for anything loud at all, just more character. Any thoughts? >> Well, there is one that I am aware of. It is made by Two Brothers Racing. 714-550-6070 or www.twobros.com on the Web. Regards, <> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:13:31 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Exhausted? At 08:41 PM 3/24/97 -0500, you wrote: >Well, there is one that I am aware of. It is made by Two Brothers Racing. >714-550-6070 or www.twobros.com on the Web. I just checked out their catalog, and unless it is a brand new product, all they offer for the PC is a carb. jet kit @ $89.95 per kit. Pipes for the PC are about as rare as aftermarket air filters (as in none). Maybe our European bretheren can help out here. Gerard, any insight on this issue? Thanks. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TRA1966@aol.com by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA18421 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 21:15:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 21:15:24 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Hondaline quartz clock << I have installed a Hondaline analog quartz clock in the right speaker area (cut a hole out with a hole drill saw). Looks good. >> Hondaline analog quartz clock? I didn't know such an item existed. Does anyone know of the part number, and approximate price? Could this be the answer to the question of why the Concours has one, and WE don't? ---Tim Adams Playing in Peoria with an '89 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'saintlaurent@nationscredit.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu, tibbs@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Motorcycles by mail order Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:20:16 -0800 Two summer's ago a coworker arranged to have a new Honda VFR750F purchased way down in Florida. He lives in Seattle. His local dealer did the footwork and located the bike for him down there. When it was time for his vacation about a month later, he flew down to Florida, visited with mom/dad, and then rode 4000+ miles home. He loved it. Next summer, he had a conference in Maine he needed to speak at. He rode his VFR there for the conference, then down to Florida again to see mom/dad, then west to San Diego, and home again to Seattle. Of course he took the time and extra miles to have a true "Four Corners" ride verified by the Iron Butt Assoc. Not sure what he'll do next. Needless to say, purchasing a bike for him 3000+ miles away was no problem. -bryceu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:06:52 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Hudson Subject: Noise Filter Just added a CB to the wife 96 PC. All went well until I started the bike and found I was getting an ignition noise. Has any one on the list had this problem? If so how did you overcome it. Any help or suggestion would be appreciated. ********************************************* George Hudson 93 GL1500 Aspencade georgeh@en.com 96 ST1100 Solon,Ohio 96 PC800 SO's GWRRA 91008 76 GL1000 Standards (2) AMA 415992 STOC 302 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA03040 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:15:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:15:48 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: 1996 Owners... Hi All of you 1996 owners... One last role call...have any of you 1996 owners who have installed the Corbin had a relatively okay time installing the product, or have all of you experienced nightmares over the subject. For the record...I will tally up the responses (without names) and let Corbin know if there has been a problem. It would also be good to know what month you purchased your Corbin. Thanks, Chris Russell Can I get the title of "official 1996 coordinator"? Just Kidding! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: slwcpa@ix.netcom.com by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA20546; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 21:28:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 21:28:24 -0600 (CST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu To: georgeh@en.com Subject: Re: Noise Filter On 03/24/97 22:06:52 you wrote: > >Just added a CB to the wife 96 PC. All went well until I started the bike >and found I was getting an ignition noise. Has any one on the list had this >problem? If so how did you overcome it. > George, I have experienced similar problems with ham (amateur) radio equipment in cars.. Try the following: 1) If you can run the radio off the battery directly.. The battery acts like a big capacitor and may help. 2) Try to keep all wires - power and antenna away from ignition wires. Keep all wire runs short as possible. 3) When possible twist power wires around each other for long runs .. just a few twists at each end. 4) If you have access to ferrite (available at Radio shack I think) .. sometimes comes in the shape of a life saver (sometimes in a plastic case with two halves that snap together). Run your power line a few loops near the radio.. (you are making an RF choke). 5) Try relocating the antenna. 6) If the radio has a noise blanker make sure it is turned on. 7) Radio shack and others sell a filter to go on the power lines to filter RF. I assume the noise is directly proportional to the RPMs. Good luck there is no exact science just art. Steve W. Randolph, NJ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: georgeh@en.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, rgeorge@juno.com Subject: Re: Noise Filter From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:41:01 EST Is it coming from the alternator (a whine that increases in frequency w/ rpm incr. or from the plugs, a motorboat sound?) Let me know I may be able to make some suggestions. Meantime, where's the antenna located(clear to the rear I hope)? Where's the radio located? How well are the chassis of the radio and the ground of the antenna mount grounded to the frame? Did you talk to a Honda dealer? Talk to a company which installs auto sound ystems/radios? Visiting any of these types of places will get them to come out and have a listen. They may take a liking to you and your bike and bend over backwards to help you out. Don't phone them, it is harder to get free advice vs. a visit. Visit more than one of the same place and get confirmation of conclusions. Also the curly cord on the mike or the mike itself can be a wonderful induction device and acting like an antenna can be introducing noise into the systeme. George and anyone else who reads this. I wonder of the practicality of listing your bikes and your name like that. Mine is a "nom de plume." I am totally paranoid about my old Indian after reading about a guy who had his whole lifetime of antique bikes cleaned out one day while he was gone from his home in Hemet, CA about 2 yrs. ago. He never recovered anything to date. Just trying to be helpful here....warm fuzzies to ya'. Waiting 4 ur reponse. On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:06:52 -0500 George Hudson writes: >Just added a CB to the wife 96 PC. All went well until I started the >bike >and found I was getting an ignition noise. Has any one on the list had >this >problem? If so how did you overcome it. > >Any help or suggestion would be appreciated. > > >********************************************* > George Hudson 93 GL1500 Aspencade > georgeh@en.com 96 ST1100 > Solon,Ohio 96 PC800 SO's > GWRRA 91008 76 GL1000 Standards (2) > AMA 415992 > STOC 302 > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GuntherSki@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA14423; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:46:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:46:21 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: 1st IL Ride Hi All, Well, 6 brave souls ventured forth on a blustery Sunday morning for the 1st IL HSAT ride of '97. Temp. was just above freezing and some of the folks hadn't really dressed for the temps. Of the 6, two bailed right away. Abbey headed for home about 20 miles into it. The rest of us headed down Rt. 34 (Ogden Ave.) to Rt.. 71 and on into Starved Rock State Park. Had a very nice brunch and headed back. Nothing scary, nice visuals, about 200 miles roundtrip, perhaps a bit more. There was a mechanic at the shop who let the early birds in for warmth and a good look at the DYNO..... The 2nd Ride will be same place, Downers Grove Honda, April 6th at 10AM. Maybe we'll head in a more westerly direction..... Z ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: 1996 Owners... From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:54:38 EST I got my 96 PC in Apr for $8299 base price at Coleman Powersport in Falls Church VA. In Aug I got a Corbin seat. It would not fit. I had warned them the bike was different from earlier models due to the fact that the earlier model backrest would NOT FIT PER THE DEALER'S BEST MECHANIC! So I sent it back and have not heard from them. I was able to recover the cost of the seat in spite of their statements no refunds all sales final etc plus the bank gave me back the high cost of freight because this was not a case of my not liking it---it was clearly not the product I ordered. Let me sneak this in: Anyone want a cushy big Corbin for a 1400 Intruder? On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:15:48 -0500 (EST) ChrisTUBA@aol.com writes: >Hi All of you 1996 owners... > >One last role call...have any of you 1996 owners who have installed >the >Corbin had a relatively okay time installing the product, or have all >of you >experienced nightmares over the subject. > >For the record...I will tally up the responses (without names) and let >Corbin >know if there has been a problem. > >It would also be good to know what month you purchased your Corbin. > >Thanks, > >Chris Russell > >Can I get the title of "official 1996 coordinator"? Just Kidding! >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:14:43 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Imitation GIVI! Juan A. Goula wrote: > > At 11:46 AM 3/23/97 -0800, you wrote: > > >It's really no substitute for the GIVI, but it's a lot less expensive. > > The bag looks good! My only concern would be scuffing of the paint when dust > got between the bag and the bike. Did you prepare the bag for this? > You're right, I really didn't do anything about that. I think I'll try some soft felt-like material on the bottom. Thanks, Phil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Hondaline quartz clock - Honda Accessories digital clock To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 25 Mar 97 15:18:30 WST Hi Tim, > << I have installed a Hondaline analog quartz clock in the right speaker area > (cut a hole out with a hole drill saw). Looks good. >> > > Hondaline analog quartz clock? I didn't know such an item existed. I have a small digital clock velcro mount between the choke handle and the Honda metallic emblem. It is a Honda Accessories product from Japan, available from my local Honda dealer here in Hong Kong, cost $170 (US$22), not cheap but gives a perfect match to the bike. And it is waterproof. -- **************************************************************************** * Philips Wong, '84 HONDA GL1200A <-- Classic! * * VR2XVI <-- HAM Gold Wing Aspencade * * PCA420 <-- Royal Hong Kong '90 HONDA PC800 red <-- Little Wing * * Aux. Police Yeh, Wing front look and spoiler * * 101177 <-- the only GWRRA '95 HONDA GL1500SE <-- Chrome! * * member in HK The flooded bike * * * * Police Training School taught : HONDA CBX750 <-- Police * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, YAMAHA Diversion 600<-- work * * your obedient servant!" HONDA CBX250 <-- bike * * * **************************************************************************** * Will work for gas & chrome. I have two Wings, and a baby Wing at home. * **************************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:57:04 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: Two Brothers Racing (was:PC800 Exhausted) <333661F6.1E69@snet.net> <19970324.190612.4335.3.Rochambeau@juno.com> Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > Would that be the Gross brothers? Or Mongo and Bongo? > \Am I bad or what? The Gross Brothers do not race their PCs. Steve (Mongo) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:10:15 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Needed Advice: Intercoms, Hand Warmers, Trunk Lights ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > > Steve... > > Let me know what price you're looking for, and I'll let you know back. I'm > not looking for any specific price, or to rip you off (I'm a pastor, for > crying out loud), so just let me know what you think is fair. How's about 40 bucks sound? C'mon dicker with me! > I gave up on the Corbin, as all of the 1996 owners have only had horror > stories so far. I'm going to check on this on the list one last time. I just ordered a Corbin for my PC and in the conversation I noted the problems that have been stated numerous times on this web site. He stated that they were getting so frustrated with the complaints that they were going to discontinue the PC seat last summer. Then a guy brought in a '96 to their shop and they refitted the seat to it. Apparently as a result they now have an entirely new seat pan for the newer PC's. We'll see. Mine will take six to eight weeks to be delivered. I'll post a note on this site when I install it. BTW I have seen the Corbin and briefly sat on one and it is unmatched in comfort. The passenger seat is an even greater improvement over the stock seat. The stock seat has stylistically designed soft foam padding that smushes to accomodate your butt anatomy. The Corbin is designed and shaped for your butt like a good wood chair. Padding is almost unnecessary because the fit is so good. Also the difference in driver/passenger height is greater so she can see over/around you easier. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 268 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:20:26 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: tally I bought my '96 PC @ Poway Honda/Kawasaki, Poway, CA for $7199 in March '97 Corbin seat is on order. > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 268 miles and counting > Peace Be With You > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 126 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:49:39 -0900 AKMAIL1.Alaska To: mjones@linfield.edu (Michael A Jones), pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: E-Mail Change Of Address Date: 25 Mar 97 07:45:21 KST Yes it is, but it's spelled Juneau. Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: Re: E-Mail Change Of Address Author: mjones@linfield.edu (Michael A Jones) at CC2MHS1 Date: 3/21/97 3:59 PM Of course Tim is from Oregon. Down south here, we'all say y'all. By the way, isn't Juno in Alaska? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 97 16:05:00 UT From: "Paul Hayes" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Today's Cycle Trader Report <3/25/97> Disclaimer: The information below is Copyright © 1996 Trader Publishing Company; All Rights Reserved; This document is to be used for only informational, non-commercial uses. Also, I don't have any additional information on these listings, don't email me with any specific questions about any of these listings. Thanks. - pauly ============ 1989 HONDA PACIFIC COAST - 60 mpg, 22k mi, has CB, nice pinstripping, $4500, 602-830-2006. $ 4,500. 1989 HONDA PC-800, "Pacific Coast," great sport-touring motorcycle in excellent condition, meticulously maintained, includes standard & touring windshields, factory backrest, bagliners, ride anywhere with confidence, $3,500, 412-793-0424. 1989 HONDA PACIFIC coast, pearl white, great cond, sporty to ride, runs like new w/only 5500 mi, sell new for $8500. This one only $3750. 541-327-3542. Jefferson, Or 1990 HONDA PACIFIC COAST, purchased new in '93, exc. cond., 10K mi., candy apple red, orig. fact. color, $4895 obo, 210-553-2300 pgr., 210-340-1198 hm. 1990 HONDA Pacific Coast, 6500 miles, red and silver, extended windshield, cover, helmet, $4300 obo, Steve Suissa, work 404-730-5130 after 4 pm, pager 404-716-4241. 1990 Honda Pacific Coast, EC, $3900 (910)625-3776 ASHEBORO 1994 Honda Pacific Coast 800 cc, black & silver, cb, corbin seat, rear spoiler, tall windshield, also included is stock seat and windshield, always garaged, serviced, 23K, EC, $5100 (910)679-8031 YADKINVILLE NC 9711-180-14 $ 5,100. 1994 HONDA PC 800, pacific coast light blue/gray, tall wide windshield, like new cond., back rest, easy handling, sport touring, bike storage under seat, 5500 mi., $5995 obo, 205-350-7039 or 205-355-6633. 1994 Honda Pacific Coast, 5800 miles, black, original 5yr warranty transferable, EC, $7500 new, now $4950; (614)451-9290 COLUMBUS 1994 HONDA PC 800, pacific coast light blue/gray, tall wide windshield, like new cond., back rest, easy handling, sport touring, bike storage under seat, 5500 mi., $5995 obo, 205-350-7039 or 205-355-6633. 1994, honda, pacific coast, $4800, showroom cond. black and gray. wired for sound on the road. only 7500 miles. 800cc. very clean. 3 yr. warranty included.upstate ny. e mail dooviem@aol.com or 315 724 3444 dave email: dooviem@aol.com, (315) 724-3444 $ 4,800. 1995 HONDA ACE, 1100cc, 3K mi, custom leather saddle bags, rack & back rest, windshield, chrome engine protectors, xlnt shape. $6950. HANSON'S BMW, 3958 S. Pacific Coast, 541-535-3342. Phoenix, Or 1996 Honda Pacific Coast, w/back rest, 2300 miles, mont condition, $6800; (216)884-9172 PARMA HTS 1996 HONDA Pacific Coast 800, red, like new cond., still under transferable warranty, will deliver w/in 300 miles, was $8600 new, will sell for $5900 obo, 912-382-6139. 1997, HONDA, PACIFIC COAST, Call for price, Stock# NH105, 800 cc SOHC liquid-cooled 45 degrees V-twin, 5 spd., is the machine you've been waiting for, it's liquid-cooled, V-twin engine, shaft final drive, & integrated bodywork, protection system make it as close to maintenance-free, as any bike is likely to get, CORONA HONDA MOTORCYCLES,, (909)-735-2030. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright © 1996 Trader Publishing Company All Rights Reserved This document is to be used for only informational, non-commercial uses. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Today's Cycle Trader Report <3/25/97> From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:52:40 -0600 Lines: 7 >>>>> "PH" == Paul Hayes writes: PH> 1994 HONDA PC 800, pacific coast light blue/gray, tall wide windshield, ^^^^^^^^^^ ?? Whoa! - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Steve's getting a newly designed 96 PC Corbin. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:13:03 EST Steve please don't forget to post your results on the 96 PC seat hot off the griddle!!!!! Yes there was a difference. I will be waiting with great excitement for my wife wants that higher backrest big time. Isn't this net nice? Excited in Virginia. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:23:45 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: George Hudson Subject: Noise Filter Thanks to those who responded to the ignition noise problem I was getting on my SO's 96 PC. Wayne at Sierra Electronics suggested I find a switched + instead of using the battery +. I did so and it worked like a charm. If anyone is interested I have pictures of the CB installation and antenna placement. Thanks again. for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:42:14 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:27:45 -0600 From: Gerri Ewing To: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: Lost in the Fog Is it just me, or, does anyone else find themselves reading "replies" to "messages", that they have never seen? More often than not, I find that the lead message to a thread is not to be found in my mail box. Sometimes, it seems like an electronic version of "Jeporardy". Alex, I believe the question is........ Gerri, Cindy and the Jetson-mobile ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:20:51 -0800 From: "Christopher J. Russell" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: To: Jason, Dana, a 97 owner, and all of you, in that order. Hi everyone! I'm using my *other* e-mail account to send this message as I'm on the PC800 web page interface with the list server. Jason...this probably doesn't apply to you, but the listing of members is kind of antiquated. Is there any way that we can adapt the list of subscribers to include name, e-mail address, and address and year of PC? I realize that this might be a web page thing and not a thing that you deal with. If so, then those guys working on the web page, consider this! By the way, Jason, we'd all be interested in knowing how the re-vamping of the archives went (is going?). Dana...please contact me regarding HSTA. Simply e-mail me at my normal address. As for a 97 owner...when are one of you going to scan their bike and give it to someone so that we can all check it out on the net? I'll be more than happy to make a 97 PC page on my web pages. We've all seen the differences in long-distance promotional shots, but we haven't seen anything downright personal yet. One final thought...there are a number of places that make promotional watches for about $25 each. Considering the number of PC owners, and the different model years and colors, perhaps we should consider getting a PC watch made for the "group" which would be electo-plated gold design. That way, we don't have to fight regarding what color to choose. The 97 owners would be subject to our 89-96 whims, however (body changes, of course). Any thoughts on getting a watch made? Thanks again! Chris Russell 1996 Honda PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:27:55 -0800 From: Dave Gross To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: corbin hi ya! Last summer when everyone was having trouble with the seat installations, I drove my '89 PC from Seattle to San Jose and left it there for a week...at that time they supposedly redid the seat pan. (they gave me a free seat for my trouble :>) ). Did they tell you what the difference was in the 96-97 model that made em fit differently?? -- Dave Gross & Baron George Von Helldog, AKC http://www.halcyon.com/dkgross Wed, 26 Mar 1997 05:27:27 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Vincent Santamaria" To: , Subject: Re: To: Jason, Dana, a 97 owner, and all of you, in that order. Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:57:04 -0500 I'll go for the watch but it must be 1990 RED. That is by far the best color. If the 1989 was red like the 1990 we wouldnt have had to take so much grief over the years. ---------- > From: Christopher J. Russell > To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Subject: To: Jason, Dana, a 97 owner, and all of you, in that order. > Date: Wednesday, March 26, 1997 2:20 AM > > Hi everyone! > > I'm using my *other* e-mail account to send this message as I'm on the > PC800 web page interface with the list server. > > Jason...this probably doesn't apply to you, but the listing of members > is kind of antiquated. Is there any way that we can adapt the list of > subscribers to include name, e-mail address, and address and year of > PC? I realize that this might be a web page thing and not a thing that > you deal with. If so, then those guys working on the web page, consider > this! By the way, Jason, we'd all be interested in knowing how the > re-vamping of the archives went (is going?). > > Dana...please contact me regarding HSTA. Simply e-mail me at my normal > address. > > As for a 97 owner...when are one of you going to scan their bike and > give it to someone so that we can all check it out on the net? I'll be > more than happy to make a 97 PC page on my web pages. We've all seen > the differences in long-distance promotional shots, but we haven't seen > anything downright personal yet. > > One final thought...there are a number of places that make promotional > watches for about $25 each. Considering the number of PC owners, and > the different model years and colors, perhaps we should consider getting > a PC watch made for the "group" which would be electo-plated gold > design. That way, we don't have to fight regarding what color to > choose. The 97 owners would be subject to our 89-96 whims, however > (body changes, of course). Any thoughts on getting a watch made? > > Thanks again! > > Chris Russell > 1996 Honda PC800 > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Pacific Coast ListServ Subject: Re: Lost in the Fog From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 26 Mar 1997 00:16:43 -0600 Lines: 17 >>>>> "GE" == Gerri Ewing writes: GE> Is it just me, or, does anyone else find themselves reading "replies" GE> to "messages", that they have never seen? I can verify that worldnet is accepting all of the mail. If you can give me (privately) a concrete example, I can pull my logs and show that worldnet has promised to deliver it. I just need the Message-ID of a message that is a reply to a message you didn't see and, if you have it, It would not surprise me in the least to find that worldnet is dropping mail. They cause plenty of other problems. I do not believe there to be anything wrong with the software that runs the list and delivers the mail. (I wrote most of it; I should know.) - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:57:12 -0500 From: Phil Oetiker Subject: Gonna Get One To: Pacific Coast Newsgroup -------------------- Begin Forwarded Message -------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Phil Oetiker, 102511,227 To: Pacific Coast Newsgroup, INTERNET:pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, Dec 31, 1908 12:00:00 AM RE: Gonna Get One In about a week I will purchase a spanking new PC. I can hardly wait to drive it home. I'm sure that I'll have a lot of questions to all of you who own and know the bike in the future and I look forward to being more than a lurker. As the day I re-enter motorcycling nears, I remember that I need many new accessories. I appreciate any advise on: Motorcycle Covers I live in Brooklyn and must park my bike outside in front of house. So I need a cover that can stand up to rain and give the tires as much protection as possible. I'm also interested in a smaller, lighter cover that I can carry around in the trunk so I can throw it over a bike with hot pipes when I want to park in the city. It must be that covered bikes parked in the city are less vandalized than uncovered ones, right? I hope that this cover will be small enough to be worth packing on tours. What size does the bike take? Alarms Where I live you have to worry about theft. I see the Nady MA-200 alarm advertised for $142 including the pager. That seems reasonable, no? Is this alarm up to the task? Locks Does anyone have a good system for mounting a lock on the inside of the trunk? Again I'm going to need one to be with the bike all the time but I don't want one to be rattling around while I ride. Great, I look forward to reading any reponses. Happy Riding! Phil Oetiker -------------------- End Forwarded Message -------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cem Erdem To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: I found a PC 800 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:48:59 -0600 I found a '95 PC 800 in CA for $5,000. It has 4000 miles. Do you think the price is good? What kind of maintenance it should already have if you consider it has 4000 miles on it. I know that the oil should be changed after 600 miles and then every 3000 miles, right? Any other maintenance I should check? I heard that the CA models are different. What is the difference? Does it have less horse power? Can somebody test drive it for me who lives in San Francisco? I need to go and pick it up (I am in Minneapolis). Anybody interested to share this 2200 miles trip on the second weekend of April? (Thursday flight 17/4/97, Friday morning pick the bike up and start the trip and arrive in Mpls on Sunday night 20/4/97) Thanks for your time Cem (gem) Erdem Minneapolis, MN ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:11:24 -0800 (PST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ddirig@ucsd.edu (David M. Dirig) Subject: New PC owner Hi there, I 'm new to your list and also new to the PC world. We just bought an 89 PC800 for my wife, Dori, and I would appreciate some input on the following: 1) If you do not have a turn signal on, when you hit the brakes, the rear turn signals (amber running lights) flash 4-5 times and then stay on. The brake lights do not flash, but since the running lights bracket the brake lights on the rear, it gives the appearance that the entire light bar is flashing. But if you have a turn signal on, the amber lights do not flash, for obvious reasons. Riding home behind it last night (we just bought it!!), the flashing lights are a real attention getter!! My question is: Is this standard? or has someone modified the bike. If the latter, is it legal? 2) The high beams flash as well. When you trigger the high beams, they flash almost like a strobe. This is a modification I would like to remove, but I would like some advice as to where to start looking. 3) I know that the late 80's GoldWings had stator troubles. Should I be looking for that on the late 80's PC's as well? 4) This is embarrassing......Where's the reserve switch!!! Thanks in advance for your help! David and Dori Dirig San Diego, CA GL1100I '83 PC800 '89 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:52:42 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: New PC owner David & Dori, welcome to PC-dom! At 07:11 AM 3/26/97 -0800, you wrote: >1) If you do not have a turn signal on, when you hit the brakes, the rear >turn signals (amber running lights) flash 4-5 times and then stay on. The >brake lights do not flash, but since the running lights bracket the brake >lights on the rear, it gives the appearance that the entire light bar is >flashing. But if you have a turn signal on, the amber lights do not flash, >for obvious reasons. Riding home behind it last night (we just bought >it!!), the flashing lights are a real attention getter!! This is definitely an aftermarket item, very useful. As for being legal, you will have to check with your local authorities, but I doubt they would bug you for something that is safety related. I remeber someone on the list saying that if it does not affect the operation of the stock brake lights, it is legal, but better chaeck to make sure. >2) The high beams flash as well. When you trigger the high beams, they >flash almost like a strobe. This is a modification I would like to remove, >but I would like some advice as to where to start looking. This is anther aftermarket safety item, and it could very well save your life. I advise against removing it. For night operation, this headlamp modulators (they modulate, not turn on/off) have a switch to revert back to a continuos beam. Look on the dash, in the "glove compartment" or inside the gas door for this switch. >3) I know that the late 80's GoldWings had stator troubles. Should I be >looking for that on the late 80's PC's as well? '89 PC's have (had) stator problems. From '90 on they should be OK. By now I suspect the majority of the '89's on the road have had the problem manifest itself and have been fixed, so chances are you won't have to worry about it. >4) This is embarrassing......Where's the reserve switch!!! None exists. The tank is under the seat, and carbs are fed via an electronic pump. That's why Honda gave us a fuel gauge. Just keep an eye on it and learn what your range is with the tripmeter. You should be fine. Sounds to me that the previous owner was very safety aware. Hopefully it means that he was also good at keeping the bike well maintained and you got a good bike. Good luck! Juan >Thanks in advance for your help! > >David and Dori Dirig >San Diego, CA >GL1100I '83 >PC800 '89 > > > >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeff Hopkins" To: "PC 800 Group" Subject: For Sale Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:04:45 -0600 After picking up a '95 PC800 I've decided to keep it and sell my trusty 'ole 89 model. She had a rifle windshield, back rest, has had her oil changed regularly, (only Syntec 5w50 for the last 50k) She runs good and will make someone a good bike. Asking $3500 OBO. Call 405-447-6213 or E-mail hopkinsj@telepath.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Andre Espaillat" Subject: Re: New PC owner Date: Wed, 26 Mar 97 12:50:29 PST Dirig asked: > 1) If you do not have a turn signal on, when you hit the brakes, the rear > turn signals (amber running lights) flash 4-5 times and then stay on. > My question is: Is this standard? or has someone modified the bike. If > the latter, is it legal? =====> Not standard, probably legal. > 2) The high beams flash as well. When you trigger the high beams, they > flash almost like a strobe. This is a modification I would like to remove, > but I would like some advice as to where to start looking. =====> It's a modification probably associated with the tail light system. Why eliminate it? It's intended as another attention getter. > 3) I know that the late 80's GoldWings had stator troubles. Should I be > looking for that on the late 80's PC's as well? =====> I have a customer with 6 PC800's. The factory stators seem to fail. The afternarket ones seem to last. > 4) This is embarrassing......Where's the reserve switch!!! =====>It's attached to the bottom ends of your ankles. There are two of them. If you push on these switches in the proper direction and with sufficient force, the bike will back up. Works every time. ******************************************************** Andre Espaillat Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103 Carrollton, TX 75006 (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace outrace@flash.net ******************************************************** Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: ddirig@ucsd.edu (David M. Dirig) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: New PC owner From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 26 Mar 1997 12:10:36 -0600 Lines: 33 >>>>> "DMD" == David M Dirig writes: [flashing rear lights on braking] DMD> My question is: Is this standard? or has someone modified the bike. It is not standard. There are companies who sell products that do this, though. DMD> If the latter, is it legal? Strictly speaking, it isn't in most places. Many people consider there safety more important, especially since the real lights on the PC are lower than most. DMD> 2) The high beams flash as well. When you trigger the high beams, DMD> they flash almost like a strobe. This is a modification I would like DMD> to remove, but I would like some advice as to where to start looking. That's a headlight modulator. A great thing for improving your visibility. It's illegal in most places too. If you really want to remove it, someone here would probably love to buy it from you. DMD> 3) I know that the late 80's GoldWings had stator troubles. Should I DMD> be looking for that on the late 80's PC's as well? There were stator problems in '89 PCs, not in any other years. DMD> 4) This is embarrassing......Where's the reserve switch!!! There is none. Use the gas gauge. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:10:52 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Corbin ChrisTUBA@aol.com wrote: > Two things... > I ordered two Maxxon headsets today after discussing the matter thoroughly > with Phil Lewis and company of the Southern California PC Riding Club. I > also ordered the passenger headset that allows the Maxxon to be used as an > intercom. Total cost for two units PLUS shipping...$94.95. The passenger > headset was 19.95, not sure what shipping is. Not a bad deal. So, I have to > pass on the chatterbox, but I'd bet that someone on the PC listserver will be > interested. > Congrats! and as a matter of fact I have already received e-mail from someone else who wants to buy the Chatterbox. Let me know how your passenger intercom headset works. > Secondly, seeing as you got solid evidence from Corbin that they've changed > their ways, I placed my order, too. I also asked that they put a little > extra padding on the seat. I ordered mine in all black, so that it looks > somewhat stock. I don't want the grey colors of the 89-95 years. What color > scheme did you order? I wouldn't exactly call it solid evidence. The guy on the phone SAID they changed it. I remain neutral on the subject until I get the seat and install it. The colors I ordered were black basketweave seat, tomato red (bright red) welting, and charcoal(very dark grey)side panels. All naughahyde. > > Unfortunatley, I won't get around to installing mine until June 14th. But it > shall be installed. Is that what six to eight weeks is? > > One other bit of info regarding the 96 PC...I wasn't so happy with the red > when I bought the bike...but it has grown on me immensly. For one thing, it > makes the bike look larger than the black or white or dark reds. I wonder if > the red is easier to spot than the other colors? Something from driver's ed > seems to tell me that red is harder to spot? Is that right? I am surprised myself but I have similar sentiments. I would have prefered a dark green and of course I think the pearl white is excellent. But the Brrright Rrrred grows on you. I have polished the bike twice and that red really takes on a glow! I also tried several add-on color schemes by using colored vinyl tape in stripes and panels but I just found that there was no way I could conceive of to improve on the stock esthetics. All my efforts just looked tacky. Concerning visibility, the red is certainly more visible than white or black during the day but it loses that advantage at dusk. The longer wave radiation (red end of the spectrum) is the first to be absorbed from sunlight by the atmosphere. That's why at dusk things take on a bluish cast. When the red wavlengths are lost it looks black. Black of course still looks black, but white is still quite visible though with a bluish cast. This is of course all academic since your lights are far more visible than the color of the bike during this time. A headlight modulator during the day is noticable far in excess of any bike color; though I will say that vile Kawasaki lime green will never be mistaken for anything found in nature. The best color at dusk? Yellow! > > P.S. The "peace be with you"...does that have any significance, and/or > spiritual significance? It's actually a politically correct contraction. May the Peace of knowing God's majesty, love and grace Be With You now and forever. ...and I mean it. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 313 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:03:28 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "David M. Dirig" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: New PC owner First of all, DID YOU BUY THE BIKE AT POWAY HONDA/KAWASAKI? If you did then you just bought the PC800 that I just traded in for my '96 PC 800! HA! ;) Your description fits my old bike exactly. In any case I will tell you about the lights. David M. Dirig wrote: > 1) If you do not have a turn signal on, when you hit the brakes, the rear > turn signals (amber running lights) flash 4-5 times and then stay on. The > brake lights do not flash, but since the running lights bracket the brake > lights on the rear, it gives the appearance that the entire light bar is > flashing. But if you have a turn signal on, the amber lights do not flash, > for obvious reasons. Riding home behind it last night (we just bought > it!!), the flashing lights are a real attention getter!! > My question is: Is this standard? or has someone modified the bike. If > the latter, is it legal? The lights you describe is the Priority Plus system that incorporates the turn signals as running lights at night and brake light flashers when not acting as turn signals. If it is my old bike, feel underneath in the rear wheelwell in the area where there is a flat surface centerline under the trunk. There you should find the control box for the system. It ain't stock and straddles the fence on legality. It's a flashing light, but they are yellow(caution lights NOT brake lights). Yes they really get attention. That's the idea. > 2) The high beams flash as well. When you trigger the high beams, they > flash almost like a strobe. This is a modification I would like to remove, > but I would like some advice as to where to start looking. The headlight has a headlight modulator on it. It modulates the highbeam only. There is a rocker switch on the right handlebar and a red button. Rocker depressed top: Modulating full time. Rocker center: Modulator off. Rocker depressed bottom: Modulator will flash highbeam for 3.5 seconds when the red button is pushed. What this means is if you don't want full time modulation or are using highbeam at night use the center or down position. Caveat! My memory may have the up and down positions reversed in function but you'll figure it out. Again as with the Priority Plus system, it's very noticable. That's the idea. I have already ordered a new headlight modulator for my new bike. The MSF recommends them and my philosophy is to be as noticable as possible! However, that being said, if you wish to remove it, the control box is zip tied to the left frame tubing near the headlight. When I get my new modulator I will post a description on how to install one. That will help you to uninstall it if you are still determined to do so. > 3) I know that the late 80's GoldWings had stator troubles. Should I be > looking for that on the late 80's PC's as well? If it's my old bike, and by now you should know, the stator has already been replaced by me. $400. ugh. Also the front fork seals. > > 4) This is embarrassing......Where's the reserve switch!!! Ain't none o' them on a PC. watch your gas gauge or tripometer. 150 miles per tank is about max. I always fill at 120 miles. BTW you have just qualified for full membership in the Southern California Pacific Coast Riders Club. (by virtue of your location and ownership of a PC) We'll put you (and Dori) on our e-mail list. We have a group ride on 5 April with about nine PC's (and one non-PC) attending. We're meeting at 9 AM in Carlsbad in the parking lot of Marie Calendar's at the Palomar Airport Road Exit off I5. We'd love to see you! > -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 313 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Vincent Santamaria'" , ChrisTUBA@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: To: Jason, Dana, a 97 owner, and all of you, in that order. Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:01:51 -0800 But Vincent, if the watch pictured the white '89 PC800, the rest of you could easily color it in to match the more recent years. Think of the money we'd save by only making one color scheme! \"/ -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft,Redmond,WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Vincent Santamaria [SMTP:vsantamaria@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 1997 7:57 PM To: ChrisTUBA@aol.com; pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: To: Jason, Dana, a 97 owner, and all of you, in that order. I'll go for the watch but it must be 1990 RED. That is by far the best color. If the 1989 was red like the 1990 we wouldnt have had to take so much grief over the years. by calvin.linfield.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA28216 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:04:56 -0800 (PST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: Michael A Jones To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Jiggling mirror The first 3 days of spring were beautiful in southern Oregon - I managed 866 miles in the sunshine. I developed a jiggly mirror, however, that has started to drive me mad. I believe that only the glass is jiggling. Anybody know a sure-fire way to put a stop to the jiggles? Mike ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:59:46 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Re: Corbin > > P.S. The "peace be with you"...does that have any significance, and/or > > spiritual significance? Stephen A. Churchill wrote: > It's actually a politically correct contraction. > > May the Peace of knowing God's majesty, love and grace Be With You now > and forever. And it's also how Jeff Smith (aka: The Frugal Gourmet) concludes his PBS cooking show. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:06:09 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: Michael A Jones CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Jiggling mirror Michael A Jones wrote: > I developed a jiggly mirror, however, that has started to drive me mad. I > believe that only the glass is jiggling. > > Anybody know a sure-fire way to put a stop to the jiggles? Mask off the mirror so as to leave about 1/16 to 1/8" exposed. Apply clear RTV in each corner (Or around the entire circumference if you prefer) End of problem. ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:38:18 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: White watch? At 03:01 PM 3/26/97 -0800, you wrote: >But Vincent, if the watch pictured the white '89 PC800, the rest of you >could easily color it in to match the more recent years. Think of the >money we'd save by only making one color scheme! Whatsa matter Bryce, never had a Crayola box with "white" in it? ;-) BTW, I'm interested in the watch idea. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:40:07 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Jiggling mirror At 07:06 PM 3/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >Mask off the mirror so as to leave about 1/16 to 1/8" exposed. Apply >clear RTV in each corner (Or around the entire circumference if you >prefer) End of problem. Ummm... wouldn't this render it non-adjustable? How about just taking it apart and tightening everything? Just a thought. Juan "The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow" -- from an Alaska Airlines ad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan A. Goula '90 Honda PC800 School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences '93 ArcticCat Panther DLX University of Alaska Fairbanks '96 ArcticCat EXT EFI MountainCat (907)474-5520 AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:51:03 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: "Juan A. Goula" CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: Jiggling mirror Juan A. Goula wrote: > Ummm... wouldn't this render it non-adjustable? How about just taking it > apart and tightening everything? Just a thought. The housing that the glass resides in is what is adjustable. Our goal here is to keep the glass from vibrating within that housing. No functionality is lost. Vibration from loose hardware is another story altogether. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Indianridr@aol.com by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA12669 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:52:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:52:37 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Today's Cycle Trader Report <3/25/97> In a message dated 97-03-25 19:03:44 EST, you write: >From the "Trader"... << 1989 HONDA PC-800, "Pacific Coast," great sport-touring motorcycle in excellent condition, meticulously maintained, includes standard & touring windshields, factory backrest, bagliners, ride anywhere with confidence, $3,500, 412-793-0424. >> That's mine, gang. (did I price this thing too low????). If anybody's interested, just drop a line or give me a buzz at the home number. I'd love to see this bike go to an enthusiast. Later, Eric Trow "Indianridr" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk (VR2XVI) Subject: Battery story To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 27 Mar 97 12:44:43 WST Hi all! Wonder if any of you deal with the OEM battery on you PCs. The battery on my '90 red PC800 drained by the alarm system, after resting in the garage for 10 days. It started up the engine after I re-charged it then failed the next morning, well, a typical dead battery. Before I go to get a replacement battery, I decided to have a look into the problem one. After removed 4 body pieces and 10 screws, pull out the dead battery, also the plastic snap on cover on top of it, what? A dried battery? I then topped it up with distilled water and charge it up, everything back to normal during the past 3 days. We all know the OEM battery is NOT a gel-type one - still a lead acid battery, with a semi-permenant sealing cover, 2 tiny breath hole on sides. That is, the design will eliminate the evaporating of battery fluid to a mininium but still it will dry out, especially when you charge it with a charger and bring the fluid to boil. The design fools you that it is a maintenance-free battery but it isn't. It tells you DO NOT remove cover to refill but of course you can, with the same structure, other models equipped with spin on covers to let you refill, then what's the point for this one not recommanded to do the same thing? Just don't over fill it, or you'll have the acid all over the place when you re-charge it. That's it. -- **************************************************************************** * Philips Wong, '84 HONDA GL1200A <-- Classic! * * VR2XVI <-- HAM Gold Wing Aspencade * * PCA420 <-- Royal Hong Kong '90 HONDA PC800 red <-- Little Wing * * Aux. Police Yeh, Wing front look and spoiler * * 101177 <-- the only GWRRA '95 HONDA GL1500SE <-- Chrome! * * member in HK The flooded bike * * * * Police Training School taught : HONDA CBX750 <-- Police * * " I have the honour to be, Sir, YAMAHA Diversion 600<-- work * * your obedient servant!" HONDA CBX250 <-- bike * * * **************************************************************************** * Will work for gas & chrome. I have two Wings, and a baby Wing at home. * **************************************************************************** by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA06066; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:38:05 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:38:05 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: Re: Lost in the Fog To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >GE> Is it just me, or, does anyone else find themselves reading "replies" to "messages", that they have never seen? This isn't surprising at all, since there are a lot of times that list members will send a response to the person who posts something on the list, but will not copy the list (maybe they don't consider it of general interest). The private recipient then replies, and copies the list. Voila, an answer with no question. Greg by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA03668; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:44:44 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:44:44 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: Gonna Get One To: Phil Oetiker Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >I see the Nady MA-200 alarm advertised for $142 including the pager. That seems reasonable, no? Is this alarm up to the task? Phil No personal knowledge. In fact, I would be interested in what you find out on alarms. However, the salesman at Chapparell in San Bernardino (CA), a very large bike and accessories shop, told me the Nady isn't that great, and that I should go get a car alarm, since there are places to hide it on the PC800; he said the quality is much better. BTW, the Nady was the only one he had in stock, so he was talking himself out of a sale. And CONGRATULATIONS!! Greg by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA25322; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:45:08 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:45:08 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: I found a PC 800 To: Cem Erdem Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >I found a '95 PC 800 in CA for $5,000. It has 4000 miles. Do you think >the price is good? Sounds good to me. I paid $6,000 for a 96 with 2,000 miles in December. Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:12:04 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: VR2XVI CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Battery story VR2XVI wrote: > We all know the OEM battery is NOT a gel-type one - still a lead acid battery, > with a semi-permenant sealing cover, 2 tiny breath hole on sides. "Gell" cells and "Gas Recombination Technology" lead acid batteries still need to be activated by adding electrolyte then sealing the individual cell openings. Both these types are truly sealed. The vent holes only open to the atmosphere if overcharged to prevent the case from rupturing. gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:09:09 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: PC800: Toughen Up! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > I developed a jiggly mirror, however, that has started to drive me mad. I > believe that only the glass is jiggling. > > Anybody know a sure-fire way to put a stop to the jiggles? Hack saw off the mirror! Wimp! Chris -Still crying without a bike! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:07:33 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: PC800: Jeff Smith? To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:53:23 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: PC800: Gonna Get One To: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Cc: PhilOetiker@compuserve.com (Phil Oetiker), pc800@hpc.uh.edu I am the unfortunate owner of a Nady rider-passenger intercom. The quality is terrible! It does not work above 25mph. If the quality is the same, and i have not heard many good things about Nady, I would pass. There is a good review of an alarm in MCN, or one of the other mags. I will try and find it over the next few days. Chris Klass No! I don't have a bike! -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:41:08 -0800 (PST) To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET From: ddirig@ucsd.edu (David M. Dirig) Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu My first question is where do you get the Priority Plus system, cuz I want to install the same taillite assembly on my Gold Wing. Thats a really nice set-up, and I like the fact taht it avoids the whole issue of flashing brake lites. You answered my other questions with your second post wrt the control of the headlite modulator. Another would be how tough is it to replace the windshield? My wife is 5'7", and she commented about the wind in her face with the stock windshield. Oh yes, money...... How much do the wiring systems and windshields go for? Is Chapparal a good place to look? We've been looking for an excuse to head up to San Bernadino. I see a lot of talk about Rifle windshields; does Markland make one for the PC? Oh yeah, what's with the velcro? DId you have a CB or a radar detector? Thats the next step for us is to purchase CB/AM/FM radios for both the GW and the PC. Any suggestions or warnings? The APril 5 ride is too short notice, as Dori and I both work on the weekends, but keep us in mind for next time later! David and Dori Dirig '83 GL1100I '89 PC800 >David M. Dirig wrote: >> I wondered if the previous owner was out there!! >> Yes I did buy it at poway HK, and if your bike had a Rifle windshield that >> you took for your current bike, then we are defintely talking about the >> same bike! >> Let me know. If so, then I do have a few questions > >Yep! Daz me. I kept the Rifle because I'm 6' tall and like to sit very >upright. At freeway speeds the stock windshield is just too short-too >much buffetting. In fact I just ordered the 24" windshield for the Rifle >base so my wife won't get so much windblast and as a winter shield for >me. > >What questions do you have? > >Are you coming to the ride on April 5th? > >-- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Steve Churchill > Oceanside California > 1996 Pacific Coast 800 > "Katie" > 360 miles and counting > Peace Be With You ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: CemE@vallon.com (Cem Erdem) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (pc800) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:40:19 -0500 Subject: RE: PC800: I found a PC 800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Cem Erdem Cc: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: I found a PC 800 You wrote: > >I found a '95 PC 800 in CA for $5,000. It has 4000 miles. Do you think >the price is good? Sounds real good to me. I just bought a '95 in NY with a GIVI top box, and warranty 'till July '98, for $6,500. Quite a bit more......I was willing to pay the premium for a few reasons. 1 - It has less than 500 miles on it. 2 - It was close by, so travel expense to go to it, and get it home, were negligible. 3 - I was looking for a black one. I had seen a '96 (red) with 2000 miles for $6900, but since the bikes are virtually the same (except the size of the seat pan!) I chose the '95 based on color preference. I'd go for it if I was you ! fsl -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:44:09 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Paul Hayes CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner Paul Hayes wrote: > > Stephen. I am very interested in getting and installing a Priority Plus > system as you've described it. Can you furnish the details on how to order > as well? Are they available in most good bike shops? I purchased mine through a shop in Virginia. Can't remember the name or number. However, CHAPPARAL has one in their catalogue on page 355 of catalogue #42 listed as item number 307-4051 costing $62.99 Ph # 1 800 841 2960 There is also the Priority system (without the Plus) that just uses the turn signals for running lights-no flashing with braking. Of course they flash as turn signals. #307-4047 $39.99 -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 360 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: saintlaurent@nationscredit.com (Saint Laurent, Francois) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu (Pacific Coast Newsgroup), PhilOetiker@compuserve.com (Phil Oetiker) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:42:21 -0500 Subject: RE: PC800: Gonna Get One On 26-mar-1997 Phil Oetiker wrote : > Alarms >Where I live you have to worry about theft. I see the Nady MA-200 alarm >advertised for $142 including the pager. That seems reasonable, no? Is >this alarm up to the task? Hi Phil. I have read all of the responses you received that were addressed to the group. I concur with all of those who recommended that you get a car alarm instead. I have had several cars with aftermarket alarms and these are by far superior to the motorcycle alarms available. Their major drawback is size, but with the PC800 that is not an issue. I have jsut recently purchased a PC800 ('95, less than 500 miles!) and I will also be putting on an aftermarket car alarm. There are so many different name brands and models out there that it is very time consuming to go out and research all of these. BAsed on all of the previous ones I have had, I have decided what to use for my PC800. I used to have a Clifford alarm, and I think the model was 'Tazer'. While it does not have the many features found on most car alarms these days (i.e. I don't need a trunk release or remote for the power windows on a PC800!) , it does have two features that I really like that make it exceptional for motorcycle use. 1 - The first one is a warning alarm and worked like this...if someone 'tapped' or lightly knocked on the hood/door/window of my car, the alarm would simply beep once at a mid-volume level. If you knocked twice, it beeped twice. etc. There was an algorithm that figured out if the force was excessive, and/or if the force was minor but too frequent, that would then set off the alarm for about 45 seconds, then reset itself. I had that alarm for a few years, and it never once failed. During major rain storms and hail, my neighbors alarm was going crazy, but mine never went off. 2 - The remote is relatively small and easy to use, even with gloves. Some alarms come with larger remotes, to accomodate the 20 or so features that these things have nowadays. The model has been discontinued, but many car alarm shops still have an inventory. I will be installing this in early May, and I will try to document and photgraph the install, to paste on my web page for interested parties. Good luck.. fsl p.s. Brooklyn? I am in Stamford, CT these days, and I bought the bike out in Long Island. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:11:28 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner David M. Dirig wrote: > > My first question is where do you get the Priority Plus system, cuz I want > to install the same taillite assembly on my Gold Wing. Thats a really nice > set-up, and I like the fact taht it avoids the whole issue of flashing > brake lites. See my post to the PC 800 newsgroup today. Chapparal has them. > > Another would be how tough is it to replace the windshield? My wife is > 5'7", and she commented about the wind in her face with the stock > windshield. Not hard at all to replace them. Cost is ~$140 for a new Rifle. Check the archives on the web site listed at the end of this message. Use the search engine and it will pull up plenty of information. About a month or two back there were a bunch of guys who bought new 'shields and there was alot of traffic on it. > > I see a lot of talk about Rifle windshields; > does Markland make one for the PC? I've never heard of a PC with a Markland 'shield. Maybe on the 'site someone knows. > > Oh yeah, what's with the velcro? Did you have a CB or a radar detector? > That's the next step for us is to purchase CB/AM/FM radios for both the GW > and the PC. Any suggestions or warnings? Nothing so exotic. Garage door opener. Most of the other guys in the> SCPCRC and many on the site can help you better than I on the subject of radios etc.> > > The APril 5 ride is too short notice, as Dori and I both work on the > weekends, but keep us in mind for next time What's your May weekend schedule? We're planning now! -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 360 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:17 +0100 (MET) To: pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk (VR2XVI) From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Battery story Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 12:44 27-03-97 WST, you wrote: >The battery on my '90 red PC800 drained by the alarm system, after resting >in the garage for 10 days. It started up the engine after I re-charged it >then failed the next morning, well, a typical dead battery. Yes I had the same problem, 10 days is way to long, infact after 4 days mine went dead also with a alarm (Purple Point) I had to buy a new one for 190 Dutch gilder about 105 USDollar, I tried to recharge it but it won't recharge fully. --------------------------------00--------------------- Gerard Diepeveen '89 White Pacific Coast Netherlands E-Mail: pcn@dsv.nl or gerard@dsv.nl O-PC-O:-) "May the Pacific Coast be with you" Visit the Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:12 +0100 (MET) To: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) From: Gerard Diepeveen Subject: Re: PC800: Gonna Get One Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 23:44 26-03-97 -0600, you wrote: >You wrote: >> >>I see the Nady MA-200 alarm advertised for $142 including the pager. >That seems reasonable, no? Is this alarm up to the task? Sounds like a fair price, I paid $360 for my Purple Point alarm, that after 2 years stops working. I don't know the brand, so I can't tell you more, I am just frustrated about my not function Purple Point alarm. --------------------------------00--------------------- Gerard Diepeveen '89 White Pacific Coast Netherlands E-Mail: pcn@dsv.nl or gerard@dsv.nl O-PC-O:-) "May the Pacific Coast be with you" Visit the Honda Pacific Coast Netherlands: http://www.dsv.nl/~pcn/ ------------------------------------------------------ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Smcavin@aol.com by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA29819 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:43:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:43:55 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: For sale Well, I'm thinking of selling my '94 PC800. The bike is in mint condition and has 8,200 miles on it. The bike is stock. Competently maintained and always garage stored. Asking $5,250. I great price for this bike. Bart 773-276-1628 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Jeff Hopkins" To: "PC 800 Group" Subject: PC800: '95 PC800 for sale Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:56:50 -0600 I've changed my mind and I'm going to keep my trusty old '89 and sell the '95 PC800. It has 3500 miles on it, the back rest, looks brand new except for a scrach on the right crash bar covers. I'm going to see if this won't compound out. Asking $5750, OBO. This bike isn't even broke in good yet. Call 405-447-6213 if interested. Jeff -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:02:53 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Headlight Modulator Source I gave a source for ther Priority Plus System in my last message and to preclude bad feelings I must reiterate-CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS. In some areas these light modifications may be illegal though you may choose to ignore that in hopes the cops will also in the interest of safety. It will be YOUR choosing 'cause you will pay the fine if your wrong. Something that is legal in all states by federal statute (local laws cannot be more restrictive because the statute specfically PERMITS them) is a headlight modulator. These are highly recommended by the MSF course I took and they are VEERRRY noticable to oncoming traffic (to be read as "left turners" and "driveway puller outers"). Be aware there are some headlight flashers touted as modulators which though cheaper ARE illegal by the statute because of their flicker rate and power variation.. For more information on this contact Kriss Industries Inc. http://www.kriss.com e-mail: kriss@kriss.com They will issue you a plastic card to carry with you to show the cop if you get stopped (if you bought one of their modulators). A source of Kriss modulators is HONDA OF JACKSONVILLE 1 800 798 2453 or http://www.inb.net/hoj Price is ~$130 this is where I bought my latest modulator. When I get it I will post how I put it in. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 360 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by pluto.open.ac.uk with SMTP Local (PP); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:12:14 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk (John Allan) To: pcn@dsv.nl Cc: pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:36:14 -0000 Subject: Re: PC800: Battery story pcn@dsv.nl,Internet writes: >Yes I had the same problem, 10 days is way to long, infact after 4 days >mine >went dead also with a alarm (Purple Point) I had to buy a new one for >190 >Dutch gilder about 105 USDollar, I tried to recharge it but it won't >recharge fully Me too! My battery (as far as I can see, the original 1989 one!) started being too weak to start the bike most days. It was tested by the dealer who said ' a bit weak but should be OK'. I realised that here in Europe they do not allow for the US lights legislation i.e the PC has to have all its lights on when starting. This more than doubles the load. So the battery may have been Ok for the starter on its own, but not starter + lights. I intend to fit a light switch. A new battery worked wonders!! John -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Gonna Get One From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 27 Mar 1997 12:33:58 -0600 Lines: 15 >>>>> "SLF" == Saint Laurent, Francois writes: SLF> (i.e. I don't need a trunk release or remote for the power windows on SLF> a PC800!) Ooh.... trunk release.... I wonder if this could be used? I have grand visions of having the trunk just pop itself open and have the lid lift up as I amble down the stairs laden with stuff. You could use the power window thing if you had a BMW or Katana with the adjustable windshield, I suppose. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1st ride From: mike.larson@juno.com (Mike Larson) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:24:21 EST Ooooooohhh boy. It's 65 degrees on the Norwegian Riviera (Mpls/St Paul) and I just took the PC for the first ride of the season. After sitting in 35 below weather, she fired up without a jump start and ran like a top. There's nothing like the first ride of the year to clear the head and quicken the heart. Mike Larson -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:24:18 EST From: James Hyder Subject: PC800: PC 800 Brochure Dear folks, I recently came across two old brochures for the PC that I picked up at a dealer when I was considering buying the bike in 1991. Thinking that some of you might be interested in seeing these examples of Honda's original marketing campaign for our beloved bike, I have posted them on my Web site at: http://www.erols.com/jhyder/pc800/pcbroch.htm You'll also find a couple of photos of me on the bike. >From there you can get to my resume (in the unlikely event you're interested), but not the other way around, since I have posted the resume for professional purposes unrelated to my interest in the PC800. (Also, for the time being, my resume and my home page are one and the same.) BTW: has anyone else noticed the TV ad campaign Honda is running now? They have a special low-interest-rate deal for a limited time. In one ad, at least, they show practically every bike in their line, now available at the low rate. Every bike, that is, except the PC! Pissed me off. --James Hyder Columbia, MD USA '89 PC800, bought new in '91, 26K+ miles -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:25:00 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: "Saint Laurent, Francois" CC: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: Re: PC800: Gonna Get One Saint Laurent, Francois wrote: > > I am in Stamford, CT these days, and I bought the bike > out in Long Island. Greetings neighbor. I live in a rented house in Higganum. I put the battery in the bike about an hour ago. Tomorrow I ride! gk ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:50:18 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: Speaking Of Batteries... After having forgotten the amount of plastic removal necessary to remove/replace the battery, I'm half seriously considering creating a hinged door for easy access. I know, I could charge it in the bike during storage, but it can get cold enough in the garage that inertia might come into play with the result being the battery not getting charged as often as it should... FWIW, after 4+ months of storage, the tire pressure was down 1 psi front and 2 psi rear. gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: schrchll@INETWORLD.NET Cc: Pauly@msn.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:54:40 EST Would the place in Virginia be Crutchfield? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: J.S.Allan@open.ac.uk Cc: pcn@dsv.nl, pckwong@hkuxa.hku.hk, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Battery story From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:54:41 EST My headlight goes out when my starter is engaged on my '96. Don't they all? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re:Alarms From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:54:41 EST I have been reading the mail as they say in Amateur Radio. Alarms....are PCs that much of a theft risk? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:40:37 +0000 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Hopkins, Henning & Robuck" To: "PC 800 list" Subject: Re: PC800: Re:Alarms Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:37:17 -0700 You wrote > > "I have been reading the mail as they say in Amateur Radio. > Alarms....are PCs that much of a theft risk?" > I would say no. The other day I rode it to work and sat there and put my riding stuff in the trunk and took out my work clothes and planners and started to talking to coworkers. So at the end of the day after a long boring meeting eight hours later I cannot find my keys. Yep, you guessed it. Still sitting on the gas tank cover in the parking lot for 8 hours. Opps. But I would have to say not much of a theft risk. They don't know what the're missing. Brian H. Denver Colorado '89 White PC purchased used 20,000 miles p.s. ride to work today, snow expected tonite. Crazy weather. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA21452; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:25:51 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:25:51 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: Toughen Up! To: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >Hack saw off the mirror! Wimp! > >Chris > Chris - Now, now, just because your bike got hacked up is no reason to suggest that we hack ours up. It is, however, an excellent reason to be sad, frustrated, and grumpy...you're forgiven. Greg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA13066; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:31:17 -0600 (CST) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:31:17 -0600 (CST) From: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers) Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner To: ddirig@ucsd.edu (David M. Dirig) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu You wrote: > >Is Chapparal a good place to look? We've been looking for an excuse to head up to San Bernadino. Chapparal is huge, and has a good selection of most things (including over 200 bikes, jet skis, and ATV's). I think their prices can be high. They also have a mail order catalog, but were $80 or so higher for an Arai Quantum/e or a Shoei X-9. It pays to know the price going in. Greg -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:30:30 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: PC800: alarms Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > I have been reading the mail as they say in Amateur Radio. > Alarms....are PCs that much of a theft risk? I just have lots of insurance. If they steal it, I get a new bike. -- ____________ Steve Gross - Seattle, WA '90 Pacific Coast "This must be my real life; if it was a test, they'd've given me better instructions." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:43:08 -0800 From: PILEWIS1 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Bike Alarm I know that I'm gonna sound like Mr. Cheapskate, but I bought a Bull Dog car alarm for about $35 and it works very well. It's an all-in-one unit, and it fits very nicely snuggled in the frame on the right side of the bike, just in front of the battery. Of course you could install it anywhere, but that should give you an idea of how small it is. Anyway, it incorporates a shock sensor and a current sensor, speaker, and a 4 function remote control. Not a bad deal for a little price. Oh, thanks for the battery info. My battery has been found to be drained when I get back from my trips, and I always hook a charger up to it when I get home. I never considered that I was evaporating the electorlyte. When I get home, I'll check the liquid before I charge it. I also decided to completely disconnect the battery from now on when I'm away! Enjoy the ride, Phil -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:05:41 -0500 From: Joe Beresford Subject: PC800: list ???? To: "Fellow PC800's" can the messages here be set to a digest form???? like 100 messages evry couple days is rough joe -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA18491 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:09:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:09:32 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: The Throttle Meister Today I purchased, installed and tested a Throttle Meister. The Throttle Meister is a device that permits a rider to maintain cruising speeds without consistently holding the bike's throttle open. It holds the throttle in any predetermined position, but the bike's throttle can be continually altered as the bike goes up or down hills or around turns to maintain the selected speed. The Throttle Meister is a very finely machined piece of equipment. It is made of stainless steel. It replaces the hubs at the end of the bikes steering yoke. It is extremely easy to install. The only tool necessary for installation is a philip head screwdriver. The Throttle Meister works by creating friction with a cap installed on the throttle control in the bike's handle bars. The rider can pre-adjust the friction to just the amount necessary to hold the bike's throttle in position, but not hindering the altering of the throttle's position to changing road requirements. I called Throttle Meister's manufacture in Milwaukee, and found there was a three month wait. The manufacture did tell me the name of my local dealer. The local dealer in Kansas City had a number of Throttle Meisters in stock, but not the attachment required to install the Throttle Meister on a Pacific Coast. (He was a BMW dealer) The dealer ordered the PC attachment from the manufacture in Milwaukee on Monday, and today I installed my Throttle Meister. I think the Throttle Master should be added, with the Rifle Wind Screen, as a prerequisite accessory for PC touring. The Throttle Meister retails for sightly over $100.00. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ChrisTUBA@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA22370 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:01:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:01:03 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: 1997 Pacific Coast Information, Web Pages... Hi All! I've just spent a few hours again tweaking my web pages, and once again, I've reached a place where I am happy with what is there. I had asked a few days ago for people with 97 PCs to send me some JPGs so that I could set up a 1997 Honda PC page, almost like a FAQ on the 97 model year. I do have some questions, though. What is the MSRP for the 97? And was is a typical fair market value? I have seen two major changes in the PC discussed on our list server. One is the absence of self-canceling turn signals, and the other is the short fender and missing brake covers. Are there any other differences? I'd also like to list some 97 owners (e-mail addresses) that people having specific questions could contact. If anyone would like to volunteer for that, let me know. I'll still be happy to accept more pictures as time goes on. I dropped the good/bad dealers list, and the Wisconsin PC Ride (June 28th) is still on the web pages. By the way, my home page is at: http://members.aol.com/christuba You can access everything easily from that page. And, while I'm at it, Easter greetings to all of you! L8r, Chris Russell 1996 Honda PC800 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: A New PC! From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:24:30 EST >...Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her recent >purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. >I've been told she sits on in the garage with the motor running, wishing for some half decent riding weather. I would also like to congratulate Karen in her purchase--she's obviously a connoisseur of fine motorcycles. Gee, I think that makes her the first person I know that's gotten a '97! Does anyone else know anyone who's gotten a '97? Just wonderin'... But, besides the kudos, I would also like to say to Karen... LEAVE THE GARAGE DOOR OPEN! :-}} Cheers, Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA11032 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:18:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:18:24 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Re: New PC owner In a message dated 97-03-26 15:32:24 EST, Jason wrote: << That's a headlight modulator. A great thing for improving your visibility. It's illegal in most places too. If you really want to remove it, someone here would probably love to buy it from you. >> One correction to Jason's comment. Headlight modulators are legal (for daytime use) in every state. All new one's must have a light sensor that automatically disables them at night. Older units may not have this feature and require manual switching. I agree with the others who have advised to keep the headlight modulator. This is especially important with the growing number of cars that have their lights on during the day. If you do remove the unit be careful to ensure it remains operational and let us know. Like Jason said, someone is probably looking for one. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:08:59 +0000 From: cklass@attmail.com (CHRISTOPHER M KLASS) Subject: Re: PC800: Toughen Up! To: greg501@ix.netcom.com (Greg Chambers), pc800@hpc.uh.edu To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA06251 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:06 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Speaking Of Batteries... Hi Gary: In a message dated 97-03-27 21:17:17 EST, you write: << I know, I could charge it in the bike during storage, but it can get cold enough in the garage that inertia might come into play with the result being the battery not getting charged as often as it should... >> The solution to keeping the battery charged during storage (or any time the bike is just sitting there for any reason) is to get a Battery Tender. Just hook it up whenever you park your bike (it's easy; they come with a polarized connector that you attach permanently to the battery), and the next time you're ready to ride (next day, next week, next month, next spring) you have a fully charged battery. Plus by keeping the battery fully charged (without over charging like you would with a simple trickle charger), it will last much, much longer, because it won't sulfate rapidly like a partially charged battery does. My '88 Hawk GT and '89 PC and Diane's '90 PC are all still on their original batteries with no sign of weakness or impending failure. These little jewels are worth the price and then some; they pay for themselves the first time you don't have to buy a new battery. After that it is all "profit." JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA04873 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:11 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: The Throttle Meister I've heard a lot of good things about the Throttle Meister, but isn't $100 a lot to pay for a device that does essentially the same thing as a $20 Insta-cruise (or something like that) that you can get an just about any dealer? True, they are a bit more trouble to install on a PC because of the plastic bar covers, and they aren't as elegant in terms of concept and appearance. But $80 is $80. JT -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Cem Erdem To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: PC800: insurance Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:02:17 -0600 Thank you all for the support. I made my decision and bought my flight ticket to San Francisco. I AM GOING TO HAVE A PC800 IN COUPLE WEEKS. I am going to drive it back to Minneapolis. Gush, it will be fun. Can you suggest me some insurance agencies and the insurance costs for PC800? I certainly would like to do this before I start my 2200 miles trip. Thank you for your time.... Cem (gem) Erdem -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:35:04 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: Rocky Rochambeau CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: New PC owner <333AA3D9.6F45@inet1.inetworld.net> <19970327.195256.4335.3.Rochambeau@juno.com> Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > Would the place in Virginia be Crutchfield? Nope. In the archives there is a comment about headlight modulators from way back. in that same message is the name and phone number of the place. I'm not even sure it was Virginia, but it was southeast. and it was a motorcycle shop - not even Honda. I'll see if I can dig it up. BTW, Kriss also makes their version of Priority Plus. Theirs is called a Hotshot. Their quality is fantastic. the electronics are sealed in a block of epoxy with just the wires coming out. quite indesructable. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 365 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:37:40 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: "Gary E. Klim" CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Speaking Of Batteries... Gary E. Klim wrote: > > After having forgotten the amount of plastic removal necessary to > remove/replace the battery, I'm half seriously considering creating a > hinged door for easy access. > I've pulled my battery through the opening created by just opening the trunk. No panel pulling. simple. It's tight but definitely doable. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 365 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:49:33 -0800 From: "Stephen A. Churchill" To: BMcKenna@mint.net CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Headlight Modulator Source Bill McKenna wrote: > > Kriss claims their units are legal in all 50.... > http://www.kriss.com > Their headlight monitors are. I'm not so sure about the Priority Plus/Hotshot devices (turn signal into running lights/brake light flashers) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Churchill Oceanside California 1996 Pacific Coast 800 "Katie" 365 miles and counting Peace Be With You <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:51:37 -0500 From: Roger Prince To: pc800 list Subject: PC800: New 1996 Cycle Design (my Honda dealer), Phillipston, MA 1996 PC, .9mi, available in it's inimitable GRRREAT RRRRED color. 1-800-343-1374 Doug is the owner and the one to talk to. 1-508-249-2244 1-508-249-2109 FAX Wish I could "SHOW HIM THE MONEY!!":) Roger ########################################## *ROGER PRINCE 1990 PC800, 1995 PC800 * *HSTA 23----HRCA 700096----AMA 759083 * *PAcificCoastman PACman 3PCman * *FRANKLIN, MA * ########################################## -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: PC800: *****New Email address!**** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 10:56:14 -0600 From: Rick Fisher To: "TEMP" , "PC800 messages" , "pc800 commands" , "MSD ignition" , "HSTA" , "DO JANG" , " DentWizard" , , , , , , Here is my NEW email address. I hope it is the last! Rick Fisher -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:49:47, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: pc800 digest request I second the motion: HSTA group does this digest approach and it's a great timeshaver! >can the messages here be set to a digest form???? like 100 messages every >couple days is rough ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com ( GORDON FRANK HSTA7186RG) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:46:51, -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: tank bag / etc Please advise if you have a recommended tank bag, with requisite map pocket. I'm planning a cross country trip in Aug., from Atlanta thru Montana (following the Lewis & Clark trail), to the West Coast and will need to pack & pack well. Also, for those that have installed blind spot mirrors, where is best place to glue them on? Thanks for your help. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Rusty Jackson To: "'NVXL62A@prodigy.com'" , "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: PC800: tank bag / etc Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:16:41 -0800 I put mine in the top outside corner of each mirror and that works well for me. Rusty ====================================== Russell C. Jackson - Software Engineer rjackson@wrightstrat.com -------------------------------------- Wright Strategies 2223 Avenida de la Playa, Suite 105 La Jolla, CA 92037 619-551-6808 x124 ====================================== -----Original Message----- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NVXL62A@prodigy.com [SMTP:NVXL62A@prodigy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 1997 4:00 PM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: tank bag / etc Please advise if you have a recommended tank bag, with requisite map pocket. I'm planning a cross country trip in Aug., from Atlanta thru Montana (following the Lewis & Clark trail), to the West Coast and will need to pack & pack well. Also, for those that have installed blind spot mirrors, where is best place to glue them on? Thanks for your help. ____ Gordon Frank NVXL62A@Prodigy.Com '96 PC800 Atlanta, Georgia -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DMoranz505@aol.com by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA04760 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:59:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:59:33 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: trunk rubbing To All, I have a 89' PC. I have recently put on a new rear tire.(had it put on) I have noticed that the underside of the trunk on the left side has tire rub marks on it. I believe this only happens when my wife and I are riding double. Can this problem of tire rub be corrected? How would you do it? Thanks to all who respond............... Ziggy 89 PC South Carolina -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Andre Espaillat" To: DMoranz505@aol.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:07:09 +0000 Subject: Re: PC800: trunk rubbing Reply-to: outrace@flash.net Can this problem of tire rub be corrected? How would you do it? Thanks to all who respond............... =====>I have a customer with 6 of the 89's. You CANNOT put a larger tire on a 1989 PC800 than a 140/90/15. If ANY of these numbers is larger than what I've quoted here, you're in danger of destroying your bike or your life. IF you have a 140/90/15 on the bike and it still rubs, then you will need to go back to the 140/80/15 that came stock on the bike. (My customer operates all his solo.) Change that tire! ************************************************************* Andre Espaillat - outrace@flash.net - CMRA/WERA 522 1996 WERA Southcentral Reg. Champ - Clubman Novice Out & Out Racing 1510 Randolph St., Suite 103, Carrollton, TX 75006 USA (972) 323-7924 www.flash.net/~outrace Your mind is the most important part of your motorcycle. ************************************************************* -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:24:31 -0500 From: "Gary E. Klim" To: PC-800 E-Mail Group Subject: PC800: 1997 PC Was at my dealer today picking up a rain suit and noticed a '97 PC in the showroom. No sir, I just don't like it. Glad I got a '96. The differences are: 1. Sport bike fender. (We knew that) 2. Manual turn signals (We knew that too) 3. Lower bodywork is a flat "near black". And I mean *all* of it. No silver accents on the access panels. 4. Seat is also a "near black" with a different texture than the '96. (Maybe trying for a leather look?) 5. Still no drain plugs for forks. 6. $8699 Suggested retail. Radiators will have a rough life on '97s as road debris will be thrown directly into it from the tire. With the optional mud flap, I rarely have more than a few bugs to remove from my '96. gk -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gary E. Klim - Somewhere in central Connecticut garyklim@snet.net ________________________________________________________________________ -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:29:25 -0600 From: Wells Family To: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800: insurance Cem Erdem wrote: > > Thank you all for the support. I made my decision and bought my flight > ticket to San Francisco. I AM GOING TO HAVE A PC800 IN COUPLE WEEKS. I > am going to drive it back to Minneapolis. Gush, it will be fun. > > Can you suggest me some insurance agencies and the insurance costs for > PC800? I certainly would like to do this before I start my 2200 miles > trip. > > Thank you for your time.... > > Cem (gem) Erdem Cem: I have American Family and pay $135.00 a year,full coverage.I live in a small town in Wisconsin ,may make it a little less. Tom Wells 95 PC800 AMA 555489 HSTA 7378 -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: I'm an equal opportunity linguist! From: timmacy@juno.com (Timothy B Macy) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:06:34 EST Juan Goula sez: >Y'all? Tim, I thought you were from Oregon? :-) I grew up in Rapid City, SD, which is considered the linguistically "neutral" part of the United States. People in the western South Dakota region speak with as little inflection in their voices as anyone anywhere. So, since I have Tapioca Pudding speech patterns, I love the voice inflections and "regionalisms" of word patterns. When I was passing thru Montgomery, AL, I stopped at a gas station just off the Interbore--and a guy in a 5.0 Mustang had been stopped by a local gendarme next to the station. Afterwards he came over to the pumps, where I was talking with four guys who were looking at the StealthMobile. It turns out he had been stopped for doing 120 mph and driving without his license, and all he got was a warning! He was definitely a southern Alabamian, though, as were the four guys that I was talking to. With their accents, and the colloquialisms they were using, I felt like I was in a segment of Dukes of Hazzard! I loved it! What does this have to do with motorcycling? A lot, IMHO. When we travel on the bike, Nan and I attempt to take as many side roads as possible and stop in local cafes. Half the fun of the trip is to soak up the flavor of the area that we're traveling through. With the homogenization of the United States, many large cities have lost their distinctive characters and flavors, but rural America is alive and well. And the best way to sample it is from the seat of a motorcycle. I hope that rural America as we know it will never change...Tapioca Pudding is sooo boring. Tim Portland, OR '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: CemE@vallon.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: insurance From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST Dairyland was the cheapest ins. co. after a long search. Costs vary depending on many variables. Age, driving record, risk of theft, accident and loss rate of your city. Good luck -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wong's battery story. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST Mr. Wong wrote that the 96 PC batteries really are not maint. free? I will kiss a naked mule if my PC and Suzuki batteries are not truly maintenance free. How in the world would a battery last from 19921-1997 and not be maint. free without any maint. Sorry Mr. Wong but I beg to differ with all respect, Sir. If I misunderstood you please let me know. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Speaking Of Batteries... From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST Before you spend the full bore for a battery tender, check out the $13 regulated charger from J.C. Whitney. I have one on both PC and Suzuki, lawn mower, 92 Honda Accord Wagon. But the 6v Indian has a fancy unit from Sears with 3 switches (a) 2 position: 2/10 amp charge rate (b) 3 position: (1) manual automatic (2)deep cycle automatic (3)start (c) 2 position: 6/12 volts Now this JC Whitney model claims to be regulated, full charge sensing and I have reason to believe it is. What say you???? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: gorgon@xs4all.nl Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: Alarms From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:36 EST Thanks for your reponse re: theft of your PC. I had the cops wake me up one nite at 2AM back in 1962. They knew me as I was a the newsradio reporter on WMOH in little Hamilton, Ohio. They wondered if I got drunk and left my 1962 Harley Sprint in a neighbor's backyard. No it was stolen. All they had to do was put a nail in the keyhole and use a screwdriver to turn on the lites. Glad they didn't have knowledge of that bike. It is an empty feeling. As Bill sez, "I feel your pain." Hope you get back on it soon. I think I am going to get a Bulldog. Radio Shack has them under their name. They are good abt. returns if you have a prob. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: dentman@idt.net Cc: Jim_Petersen@maxtor.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, majordomo@hpc.uh.edu, msdtwist@msdignition.com, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com, DentWizard@aol.com, listproc@listproc.bgsu.edu, mrgrabow@aol.com, mark@babel.co.uk, pwimagzine@aol.com, Kingsp@aol.com, LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PC800: *****New Email address!**** From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST You hope its your last. Don't do it man, there is no spaceship behind Hale Bopp. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: BernieK469@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Re: The Throttle Meister From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST I am happy to hear of your success with throttle meister. Being an antique of a biker I was used to throttles that had no spring on them as in old Indians and Cushmans. So I disconnected one of the 2 throttle return springs on my PC and wrapped 2 rubber bands between the left side (inside) of the handgrip and that keeps the throttle whereever I set it. I have to put a note on the bike when it goes in for service, I mean a BIG note bcuz the dude who works on it could go thru a wall. I called and left my name at Throttle Meister's after they spent money on an ad and they never returned my call. I don't need them now.... What say you???? -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'NVXL62A@prodigy.com'" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800: tank bag / etc Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:18:10 -0800 I have a large Chase Harper Eurosport tankbag. I have used it many times for the long haul and really like it. Things I like most: - Map pocket easy to remove and flips over. Fold your map right and you only need to turn the pocket over when you reach the edge. I often carry it into restaurants with me for route planning. - Top flap zips on the sides and secures in front with Velcro. In other words, it's easy to get your hand in/out, even while riding - Plastic stiffeners keep it's shape - Lots of pockets around the perimeter - Good shoulder strap integrated into the design so it's easy to pick up and carry - Good raincover available with a clear plastic top so you can still read the map in the rain - Bag is HUGE with upper and lower compartments. - Chase Harper guarantees for life. Crash it and they'll fix it even. Dislikes: - Expensive - Handlebar grips will hit the bag when the bars are fully turned. Notably, the horn and starter switches can be accidentally presses, usually at the most inopportune times (midnight in a campground for example). Roger Prince has a little workaround for this though. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: "Fellow PC800's" Subject: PC800: Re: list ???? From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 28 Mar 1997 19:07:07 -0600 Lines: 14 >>>>> "JB" == Joe Beresford writes: JB> can the messages here be set to a digest form???? No. I don't have the time to run a digest. If someone else wants to digestify and redistribute, I would have no trouble with that. Perhaps one day when I have finished writing my completely new mailing list manager I will start a digest, but not now. For now I recommend that those who cannot handle the traffic make use of the web archives. - J< -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:44:35 -0500 From: Bob Coulter To: Timothy B Macy CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: A New PC! Timothy B Macy wrote: > > >...Like to say congratulations to Karen Coulter in Chardon Ohio on her > recent >purchase of a new 97 PC800. Karen is a lurker on the list. > > >I've been told she sits on in the garage with the motor running, wishing > for some half decent riding weather. > > I would also like to congratulate Karen in her purchase--she's obviously > a connoisseur of fine motorcycles. Gee, I think that makes her the first > person I know that's gotten a '97! Does anyone else know anyone who's > gotten a '97? Just wonderin'... > > But, besides the kudos, I would also like to say to Karen... > > LEAVE THE GARAGE DOOR OPEN! :-}} > > Cheers, > > Tim > Portland, OR > '94 PC800--46,300 Miles and Riding > > "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." > -- > Thanks, Tim, for the kudos. I finally got the garage door open! We rode about 50 miles last night after work, then put approx. 120 miles on today. Went to the dealer and had a Hondaline tall windshield installed. In my opinion it looks good and is very effective eliminating wind blast and "whistling" in the helmet. I hope I don't have a "meltdown" problem as mentioned before in these pages - I live in NE Ohio, tho. Were most of the problems occuring in desert climates? We don't see many sunny days here, overall. I am so impressed with the PC and thrilled with the ride! Ride safe, Karen '97 PC "Li'l Red" -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu'" , "'hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu'" Subject: PC800: Adoption Notice - 96 ST1100 ABSII Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:07:07 -0800 I think it's time I spilled the beans. I will soon be adopting a '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII to add to my current riding mates, a 95 VFR750 and an 89 PC800. I will be picking her up in Phoenix, AZ and riding home the weekend of April 25-27. She's bright red and fully equipped with a leather Corbin rumble seat, +3 Clearview shield, Ron Major bar risers, J+M CB/walkman interface, tankbra, and luggage rack. Only 5700 miles on her so far. Our maiden voyage will primarily be Hwy 93 from Phoenix to Las Vegas and up the east border of Nevada to Boise, ID. From there we'll cut through central Oregon and Washington on our way home to Seattle. A good 1600 miles or so of remote and scenic highway - just the two of us. I have many long distance/endurance goals in mind for the two of us. If all goes well, we'll be shooting for the finish line of the '99 Iron Butt Rally. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/703-0558 Program Manager - Handheld PC Apps: Microsoft, Redmond, WA AMA Life 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl", '95 Honda VFR750F "Miss T" '96 Honda ST1100 ABSII ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Wong's battery story. From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 06:11:40 EST Please correct the dates in my 1st paragraph of this letter to read 1991-1997 and not 19921-1997. Sorry for the error (has anyone else had a battery last like that?). On Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) writes: >Mr. Wong wrote that the 96 PC batteries really are not maint. free? I >will kiss a naked mule if my PC and Suzuki batteries are not truly >maintenance free. How in the world would a battery last from >19921-1997 and not be maint. free without any maint. Sorry Mr. Wong >but I beg to differ with all respect, Sir. If I misunderstood you >please let me know. >-- Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of >a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to >pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:25:36 -0500 From: Bill McKenna To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, st1100@st1100.com Subject: PC800: Repost ***** Leather For Sale Bill McKenna wrote: > > Karen's selling her leathers... > > She has: > > "Harley Davidson" Brand Jacket (delux short coat, looks Hein Gereckish) removable liner, > vented, stand up collar, sharp. Mens Size 42. $450 new, sell *as new* @ $250 > > > reply to: bmckenna@mint.net > > Thanks! > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: ????listproc@listproc.bgsu.edu From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 06:11:40 EST Hey, I got this thingy in the e-mail. What is this? Another PC800 group. Does anyone know????? See subject area above for nomenclature of this group. They offer to let me in. What is it? Thanx. On Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST listproc@listproc.bgsu.edu writes: >rochambeau@juno.com: You are not subscribed to hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu. >Your message is returned to you unprocessed. If you want to subscribe, >send mail to listproc@listproc.bgsu.edu with the following request: > > subscribe HSTA Your Name > >This message cannot be resent again from your address shown above, >unless >its body is slightly modified. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>From rochambeau@juno.com Fri Mar 28 18:58:52 1997 >[205.231.101.24]) by bgnet0.bgsu.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id >SAA26333; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:58:44 -0500 (EST) > id SMN03052; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST >To: dentman@idt.net >Cc: Jim_Petersen@maxtor.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, majordomo@hpc.uh.edu, > msdtwist@msdignition.com, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu, > majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com, DentWizard@aol.com, > listproc@listproc.bgsu.edu, mrgrabow@aol.com, >mark@babel.co.uk, > pwimagzine@aol.com, Kingsp@aol.com, LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: PC800: *****New Email address!**** >From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) >Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:55:35 EST > >You hope its your last. Don't do it man, there is no spaceship behind >Hale Bopp. > -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Cc: indian@starklite.com Subject: PC800: Enclosed Trailr Wntd From: rochambeau@juno.com (Rocky Rochambeau) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:37:39 EST Wanted: Enclosed trailer to haul 1 m'cycle. Used. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA07514 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:03:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:03:32 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Enclosed Trailr Wntd -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: BernieK469@aol.com by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA13652 for pc800@hpc.uh.edu; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:27:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:27:00 -0500 (EST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800: Riding Gloves I have spent a fortune looking for the perfect motorcycle glove. None of the gloves I have found keep the tips of your fingers warm (I have considered having heated grips installed on my Pacific Coast.), and those that keep your hands warm are so padded that you can't operate the bikes controls easily. Most good gloves sell for $35.00 or above. This winter I have been using a neoprene fishing glove sold by K-Mart for $7.99. They are call Hot Shots and are imported from China by Jacob Ash Co., Inc. of Pittsburgh, PA. The Hot Shots will keep your fingers warm all winter , and you can still feel the bike through your hands. The wrist cuffs on the Hot Shorts will seal against most riding jackets for a very comforable fit. The gloves have a waffle grip palm for an easly grasp on the throttle. They are also water proof. Bernie. -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:54:00 -0600 From: Keith W Rogers To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800: Enclosed Trailr Wntd Rocky Rochambeau wrote: > > Wanted: Enclosed trailer to haul 1 m'cycle. Used. I'm going to need a trailer soon. Please let me know which model you decide to purchase. I welcome any and all advice. BTW, I searched the archive and didn't get any hits for "trailer". -- Keith W Rogers rogersk@eden.com -- Visit the PC800 web page at To