********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: reap@pixi.com Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:42:33 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Jealous >At 08:47 PM 1/31/96 -0500, you wrote: >>You guys out there are driving us snow/frost bound types crazy!!!! >>It sounds like a nice ride, but I guess I can't make it . > >Actually, after hearing of the crappy weather the "Lower 48" is getting as a >whole, I can't say it makes me happy, but it sure helps me feel better! : - ) > >Got four more inches of snow today, snowmobilers are going bananas. Saw one >zip past my house (yep, on the street) pulling a skier! >Maybe I _will_ get to use mine after all this year. > >Every time I open the garage door my PC huddles a little closer to the >furnace to stay warm : - ) > I've been trying to be a nice guy and not complain, but I haven't been able to ride my PC for the last two weeks 'cause I need a new tire. Thanks to good advice on the mailing list I'm getting an ML 2 for the rear. Problem is that it needs to be shipped in from the mainland - two week delay or an extra $100. Sooooooo even though our overnight low was ONLY 71 degrees, I haven't been able to ride. :-( But, tomorrow when I get the tire, the sky will still be clear and the temp will be somewhere between 70-80.:-) :-) Ya' all stay warm now! Aloha! Ron Pacholec with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:10:14 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:17:26 -0700 From: Neill Thompson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Trivia I added some trivia to the web page courtesy of Ray Nielsen. Thanks Ray. Part of the topic concerned import quanitities which I had tried to get from Honda America but they said that they didn't release that stuff to anyone. Perhaps I'm the only one who doesn't know but who was that guy anyway? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: reap@pixi.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Jealous Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:08:29 -0800 From: Gaye Grabill >I've been trying to be a nice guy and not complain, but I haven't been able >to ride my PC for the last two weeks 'cause I need a new tire. Thanks to >good advice on the mailing list I'm getting an ML 2 for the rear. Problem >is that it needs to be shipped in from the mainland - two week delay or an >extra $100. Sooooooo even though our overnight low was ONLY 71 degrees, I >haven't been able to ride. :-( But, tomorrow when I get the tire, the >sky will still be clear and the temp will be somewhere between 70-80.:-) >:-) > >Ya' all stay warm now! > > Aloha! > >Ron Pacholec Shees! Talk about rubbing it in! Poor poor Ron! Even here in Oregon it's 11 degrees and us "die hards" are (well at least THIS one!) caging it. -gaye ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GaryWOTR@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:49:02 -0500 To: gaye@percy.rain.com, reap@pixi.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Jealous Fellow riders: Even in supposedly sunny Galveston, Texas, the last few days have been overcast, gloomy and in mid-30's each morning I've made my 16.2 mile ride on my '94 PC800 to work from West Galveston Island to the Medical Branch Campus. When wind has been gusting in the 20-30 knot range, that drops the chill factor pretty good. Long sleeve shirt and two jackets, one lined, the other my old Army winter field jacket with hood and thick winter gloves round out the ensemble necessary to maintain my predilection for independence of transportation. At least it's been dry; that may change this afternoon when time to ride home. Fortunately, the PC800 is in a campus parking garage and stays well away of the elements. Supposed to get colder tomorrow; all that really cold stuff from parts North will make an appearance in our neighborhood. Only missed one day of riding this Winter. Was raining/sleeting and in the mid-20's. Opted out that day to ride with the wife. Hated that! Hopefully, the next two weeks won't get too grim. If I can make it 'til then, then I'm off for a week in Hawaii to pick up some mid-winter sun and recreation Hawaiian style. Lanikai Beach, Oahu here I come--and not any too soon. :-) Sorry for you guys in the North country with the horrendous conditions you have now. I know your butts must be going into withdrawal symptoms from lack of proper, timely & firm placement on the back of your trusty, Honda steeds. Here's hoping for relief and dry, warm roads ASAP! --gary a. wade --galveston island, texas ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:17:32 -0500 From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Want to buy my first PC but need assistance please.... Hi, Everyone, I hope to soon stop envying all of you and become a bona fide memeber of the club, but I could use some help. There is a low mileage pc800 I have am interested in, but I live 1000+ miles from it. I contacted a nearby Honda dealer and they are willing to check it out for a very reasonable price ($36.00). Any suggestions on ways to do this so both they buyer and I are protected? I can't go there to see the bike before the seller and his wife are heading overseas. He may be willing to transport it most of the way here, but I will have to move it 120 miles by a shipping company or a dealer. I am open to any and all suggestions and thank this group in advance for any help provided. Alan Smith ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:53:44 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) Subject: Works performance shocks By reading over the archives I've learned about at least one PC rider's fitment of Works Performance shocks to his PC. I ordered a pair from "Tim" at Works Performance, phone number (818)701-1010, this afternoon. Seems they have made up very few shocks for PCs, but had a worksheet prepared for a set of shocks designed to carry a 305-400 pound load. Since I weigh about 310, ride solo and carry about 75 pounds maximum, I decided these would work for me. I've had experience with their shocks on a BMW a few years back and can rave about the improvements they gave that bike. Since my 89 is approaching 80K miles, I'm sure it's way overdue for better shocks. I drive so conservatively that I've not noticed the deterioration, but I have noticed the rear end bobbing around a lot even on the freeways. The price for these shocks was $269 + shipping and they are supposed to be on their way to me in three weeks. As is usualy for Works Performance, they were emphatic that if I wanted any subsequent changes they would stand behing their product. The ARS (adjustable rate suspension) feature is not offered, apparently because it will cause interference with the trunk liner. The ARS adjuster would have to be mounted on the bottom of the shock and the rotating tab used to adjust the rate would collide with the liner during upward wheel movements. Tim did assure me that they were very progressive shocks within the range stated and could withstand some overloading beyond that. Gil Villaincourt, the owner of Works has a PC and had fitted the above shocks to his bike. I had called Progressive Suspension and spoke with Jay Tullis, but he said they would not be creating a shock/spring combination for the PC. I gathered that was mostly because the adjuster for the PC won't fit around the body of their 1200 or 17000 series shock bodies, being about 1/8" too small in diameter. They feel their standard adjuster rings wouldn't work on the PC -- they're mounted too high on the shock body to be easily reachable with a wrench. I almost bought their shocks anyway -- they offer a shock with 14.25" center to center, extended length, which is what the PC requires. Springs are offered in several strengths --I'd guess that the 105/150 lb/in springs would suffice, but I couldn't get them to acknowledge that the combination would work. Not having the ability or tools to measure the stock spring rates I deferred to Works Performance -- they've already done the research and can make a recommendation. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 03:45:40 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Newbie-Time to say "hi" Hi! Here's the basic facts: Tim Macy 9753 SW Taylor St. Portland, OR 97225-6744 timmacy@aol.com I've been a fringie for 3-4 weeks, just eavesdropping and getting the feel for the people on the list. As if there would be anything wrong with anyone who owns a PC800! Figured it was time to join in the fray. I grew up in Rapid City, SD and then Milwaukee, WI starting with a Moped (took the governor off--fastest Moped in RC!), then moving up to a Kawasaki that I took over from a brother-in-law who was scared to death of it. I got away from biking (familial obligations) for a while, then my oldest son got an EX500...and the fire was rekindled. After riding a Kawasaki 454 LTD for a few years, I got a yen for the wide-open spaces...and the Kawi just didn't make it for long-distance use. My ridin' bud had a Beemer K75, so I was leaning in that direction when I saw an article on the PC800 in Motorcycle Consumer News...and I just had to have it. The fact that it was almost $3K less than the Beemer didn't hurt either. I got a 1994 PC800 new. I put on about 10K the first year 'cause I was riding alone and had to juggle riding with family stuff. Then my wife who was a critical care nurse at the time (motto: It's a donor machine!) FINALLY got on back one fateful day...and I couldn't get her back off! We use it for weekend jaunts all over the Northwest any time we can. Lost much of 1995 due to a serious illness, subsequent open heart surgery, and recovery time, but we WILL make up for it. Modifications: Stealth edging for the windscreen (works for me!) and a factory backrest for Nan. NO problems at all with the bike...I love it more every time I ride. My eldest, who now has a YZF600 and my 2nd-born, who straddles a Honda Shadow, both call it my "spacemobile". I like things that most other people don't have... Thanks for providing this list. I feel privileged to be a part of it. Tim ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: reap@pixi.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:09:21 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Jealous >Sorry for you guys in the North country with the horrendous conditions you >have now. I know your butts must be going into withdrawal symptoms from lack >of proper, timely & firm placement on the back of your trusty, Honda steeds. >Here's hoping for relief and dry, warm roads ASAP! > >--gary a. wade >--galveston island, texas Anyone up in the North who rides in mid-winter gets my admiration! I used to live in Boston but I didn't get a bike until I moved to California. The combination of low skill drivers and hard weather was enough to keep me trapped in a cage. And now in Hawaii, my bike has become almost my sole transport. I rarely drive the -excuse the expression- "car". Since the PC is all fiberglass covered, I don't suppose that up North you can get frozen stuck to any metal parts, but snow balls could be a constant danger! : - ) In winter back in the northeast I used to wear my A.F. insulated field jacket over a heavy sweater just to walk down the street. So, I don't know how you guys do it - must be made of braver stuff than me! Anyway, my tire's finally arrived so come this weekend I CAN RIDE AGAIN - YEAH! (Maybe even in shorts and a tank top.) Now if you all don't hate me too much, I could use some advice. What's a good hard polish for the fiberglass? We don't have too many exotic things out here, unless they relate to boats. I tried a marine plastic polish which worked O.K., but I'm sure that there's something much better I could use. Also, is there anything that can lightly buff out some surface scratches and heighten the gloss without wearing through the paint? I was told by a marine supply dealer that most polishing compounds have solvents in them that could disolve the fiberglass finish. I have an '89, so it's white. Take good care in that cold. Best way to keep warm is to ride with someone hot who who hugs you tight - Aloha! Ron Pacholec reap@pixi.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 06:27:43 -0600 (CST) Fri, 2 Feb 1996 7:26:04 -0500 (EST) To: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) From: "Waldo E. Meeks" Subject: Re: Want to buy my first PC but need assistance please.... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 04:17 PM 2/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Everyone, > >I hope to soon stop envying all of you and become a bona fide >memeber of the club, but I could use some help. > >There is a low mileage pc800 I have am interested in, but I >live 1000+ miles from it. I contacted a nearby Honda dealer >and they are willing to check it out for a very reasonable >price ($36.00). Hi Alan, Where do you live. Perhaps someone in the group can help. Waldo ============================== Dr. Waldo E. Meeks Manufacturing Program Coordinator/ Professor - Industrial Management Allen E. Paulson College of Science and Technology LB# 8047 Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460 (912)681-5828 FAX (912)871-1853 ============================== ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 06:33:35 -0600 (CST) Fri, 2 Feb 1996 7:33:18 -0500 (EST) To: reap@pixi.com From: "Waldo E. Meeks" Subject: Re: Jealous Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 12:09 AM 2/2/96 -1000, you wrote: Also, is there anything that can lightly buff out some surface >scratches and heighten the gloss without wearing through the paint? I was >told by a marine supply dealer that most polishing compounds have solvents >in them that could disolve the fiberglass finish. I have an '89, so it's >white. Hi Ron, The Honda Spray Polish (Black and white and red can I think) works fantastic. Can be obtained at the Honda shop. Waldo ============================== Dr. Waldo E. Meeks Manufacturing Program Coordinator/ Professor - Industrial Management Allen E. Paulson College of Science and Technology LB# 8047 Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460 (912)681-5828 FAX (912)871-1853 ============================== ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:00:49 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie-Time to say "hi" Hi Tim and welcome. In a message dated 96-02-02 03:54:30 EST, you write: >Then my wife who was a critical care nurse at the time (motto: It's a donor machine!) FINALLY got on back one fateful >day...and I couldn't get her back off! I solved this "problem" 20 years ago. I got her on her own bike. This is a superior solution to the hassles of two-up riding: discomfort for both parties, reduced acceleration, inhabition of riding exuberance, etc. Of course, there is the problem of having to buy two of everything (like PCs, HawkGts, etc.). Oh well, nothing is perfect. :) JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 07:10:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: Carl & Ruth McMullen Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Pacific Coast Accessories RE a passenger back rest for the PC. I have the Hondaline, and my wife, like yours, found it too low. I simply raised it with 1/8" X 1 1/2" flat bar. That bar will fit nicely into the "lipped" bars provided with the rest. Remove the bolted on rest from the "lipped" bars (I'm tempted to call it channel bar, but it is really just a small lip on the edges), drill clearance holes in the flat bars and bolt to the lipped bars. The length of the flat bar will determine how high the backrest is raised. Then you have to bolt more flat bar to the rest and drill and bolt the rest to the flat bars. Sounds complicated, but it's not, just hard to descrive in words. When you have the stuff in front of you, it's rather obvious. Richard Hardy ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:13:34 -0700 (MST) From: ERIC YORK To: Timmacy@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Newbie-Time to say "hi" On Fri, 2 Feb 1996 Timmacy@aol.com wrote a nice intro, which I snipped. Welcome Tim, I grew up in southern Oregon, so I have a suggestion for you. If you haven't done this ride already, when the weather gets a bit nicer, try this: Head down the coast to Coos Bay/North Bend area. Take 42S inland to Winston (near Roseburg), then head further east on (I think) 42. It should take you to Diamond Lake, then beyond to Crater Lake. Do the Rim Drive thing. When you leave Crater lake, Head south through Fort Klamath, hook up with 140 heading vaguely west, then take the Dead Indian Highway past several mountain lakes and into Ashland. Then if you want, you can go North to Grants Pass on backroads through Jacksonville, Applegate and Murphy. From Grants Pass, you can take 199 back to the coast, or bonzai up I-5. All in all, a nice weekend tour. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:43:12 -0400 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: daniel@nstn.ca (Daniel MacKay) Subject: Re: Jealous >>I was >>told by a marine supply dealer that most polishing compounds have solvents >>in them that could disolve the fiberglass finish. I tend to think the gelcoat on fiberglass is similar to the finish on the PC (which is *not* fiberlass). I'd be happy to use any polish for a boat; but I happen to like Plastic Polish No. 2, from Novus Inc., 10425 Hampshire Ave S, Minneapolis, Minn, 55438. -- Daniel MacKay daniel@nstn.ca Homo habilis Nova Scotia, Canada ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:06:09 -0500 From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: the continuing saga..... Re my opportunity to buy my first pc800.... Thanks to all who have written suggesting a group member may be able to help....I have posted--perhaps to the wrong address-- messages this am that have not appeared, so here goes.... The bike is an '89 with less than 4K miles; it is in the Kansas City, MO area; asking price #3,900.00. The bike is being checked out today by a local Honda dealer. They are to call me late this afternoon. The seller MAY be able to transport it from KC to a small Ohio city about 120-140 miles from Cleveland. Since there is no way the bike can be ridden home (I HAVE to take delivery this month, family is moving overseas) it will have to be transported. Thanks again for the help...if about 4,287 messages appear from me appear on this group, my humble apologies. Take care, Alan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , Neill Thompson Subject: RE: PC800 Bra Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:59:56 -0800 One of the Gross brothers (Dave?) has a bra on his white PC. The brothers have posted some pictures on the web page for those who'd like to have a look. The bra wraps around the front of the bike, headlight on up to the base of the windshield. The left/right tails wrap around to the side and up onto a portion of the dash. The tips of these "tails" fasten with a metal snap that is mounted just below the left/right dash pockets. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:33:51 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Re: the continuing saga..... At 02:06 PM 2/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >The seller MAY be able to transport it from KC to a small Ohio >city about 120-140 miles from Cleveland. Since there is no >way the bike can be ridden home (I HAVE to take delivery this >month, family is moving overseas) it will have to be transported. > How about the dealer that is 'examining' it for you. Could you pay him storage rental until you can go get the bike in warmer weather ? ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: reap@pixi.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:23:24 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Chuckling too soon! I've been sitting here (in shorts of course) reading mail from the North and chuckling that I'm not freezing my kukui nuts off. And all the while something terrible has been happening. SALT DAMAGE!!!!! Though not on my PC - it seems to be relatively imune with all the plastic - but on my car. Tiny specks of rust are starting to appear on the rear bumper. It's parked in an open air, though totally covered space. After driving by the ocean for a half hour or more, or after just 24 hours sitting parked in the stall a film of ocean mist covers the car. With a little sprinkle, this all turns to corrosive sea water. This film is insidious. If I parked the car in the middle of my livingroom, pretty much the same film would settle on it. I thought about putting a cloth cover over it, but that would just get saturated with the ocean film in a few weeks. I know that this isn't a PC issue, though I was hoping someone would know what to do about it. How do I repair the damage while it's still minor, and is there any way to seal, coat or otherwise long term protect the chrome parts? I'd really appreciate any suggestions. Staying warm does have it's price. Thanks and Aloha! Ron Pacholec reap@pixi.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:48:23 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Works performance shocks In a message dated 96-02-02 00:08:34 EST, Ray Nielsen wrote: >By reading over the archives I've learned about at least one PC rider's >fitment of Works Performance shocks to his PC. I ordered a pair from "Tim" >at Works Performance, phone number (818)701-1010, this afternoon. Ray, thanks for the write up. Let us know about your progress and your opinion of the shocks. I've heard others speak highly of the Works shocks on the PC, but I've shied away because of the lack of adjustability (my wife and I ride two up fairly frequently). Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 03 Feb 96 00:40:45 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Copy of: Re: Priority Plus... ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dana L. Sawyer, 71430,340 TO: Harrison Spain, INTERNET:_spain@edsug.com DATE: 2/2/96 7:49 PM RE: Copy of: Re: PC800: Priority Plus... Harrison... Reference: Priority Lites (or Priority Plus Lites) I think that I'd choose to try to make myself more visible, and plead ignorance (act natural!) if stopped. I wonder if anyone has actually been stopped by a patrolman for having other than red lights facing rearward (in states having that law!) I would hope that they had better things to do, like stopping all the cars that I see with only one headlight, or with one or no taillights! There's lots of them out there! I wish that Honda had put a stop light in the center section at the top of the trunk section. That area would have been ideal for a nice large light, and I think that it would have improved the looks of the back end. A light from another model, such as the VFR, might have worked OK without modifications. Oh, well...I wish that they would occasionally make some minor changes, especially when they increase the price by hundreds of dollars! The ST1100 clock and remote headlight adjuster would be nice. Later.. **************************************************** DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director Honda Sport Touring Association HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA (Life) Member # 180901 1990 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Life is short...I think I'll go ridiing!" **************************************************** "Aerostich for the road...leather for the bedroom!" **************************************************** 03 Feb 1996 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 09:21:36 -0800 From: _spain@edsug.com (Harrison Spain) Subject: Newbie-Time to say "hi" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu > Tim Macy > 9753 SW Taylor St. > Portland, OR 97225-6744 > timmacy@aol.com Welcome Tim! I too "lucked" into my PC800. I was a long time off of a bike (family considerations) and when I was ready to get back on, I no longer knew what was out there. I wanted something with a bit more power and yet safty was a major concern. I wandered from store to store just looking and everything looked pretty cheesy... that is until I saw a PC800! The PC800 with the excellent lighting, built in fairing, 800cc engine, and ease of cleaning got me hooked right away. One test ride later, I was looking for the cash! I can remember all the time I wasted trying to keep an open engine and lots of chrome clean (yikes!). It sounds like you are 'discovering' a lot of new country around your home now that you have your PC. When you take these trips, write a little about it and post. We all love to hear about the aventures our fellow PC800s have! :-) Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DANCOTE@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:24:01 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: New user Ray, In a message dated 96-01-10 23:30:47 EST, you write: > I've made plastic wind deflectors to >eliminate the wind up the pants leg phenomenon. Could you provide details of this installation? I'd like to give them a try. The recent cold snap here in the Seattle area has lessened my enthusiasm for my daily commute. Thanx, Dan 03 Feb 1996 09:29:21 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 09:26:26 -0800 From: _spain@edsug.com (Harrison Spain) Subject: Lot's of 1989 PC800s out there... To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Have you ever noticed that there are an awful lot of 1989 (i.e. white) PC800s out there; that is in comparison to the other years? I was told once (at a dealership) that when they designed the PC800, they figured they had the 'perfect' motorcycle (I personally agree). Could it be that they really ramped up production for the 1989 model anticipating huge sales and therefore there are plenty of these on the streets? I'd love to see the number of PC800 solds for each year :-). Harrison 03 Feb 1996 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 09:36:07 -0800 From: _spain@edsug.com (Harrison Spain) Subject: Chuckling too soon! To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >I've been sitting here (in shorts of course) reading mail from the North >and chuckling that I'm not freezing my kukui nuts off. And all the while >something terrible has been happening. SALT DAMAGE!!!!! Though not on my >PC - it seems to be relatively imune with all the plastic - but on my car. Strange that you mention this (and I know I'm over my PC800 posting quota) ;-) but I had to reply :-). I purchased my PC from a guy that lived right down by the beach. All the metal parts were covered with this kind of damage (white salt dust on everything and salt corrosion spots). I made sure to wash it down real good to remove any residual salt (I live more like 30 likes away from the ocean so salt is not that big a deal any longer). I suspect the answer will be a good washing after exposure should do the trick but I suspect you are looking for some kind of salt protection :-). Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Msennewa@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:40:09 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Any PC800's here in Europe ? (Best would be Germany) Last year I bought a PC800 here in Germany, but it's really hard to find some other PC800 owners. I want to know where and how I can get accessoires for the PC. I would be glad to get some tips and tricks around this famous motorcycle. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:00:14 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Wind up leg >> I've made plastic wind deflectors to >>eliminate the wind up the pants leg phenomenon. > >Could you provide details of this installation? I'd like to give them a try. >The recent cold snap here in the Seattle area has lessened my enthusiasm for >my daily commute. I noticed that if I placed my feet FORWARD on the foot rests I didn't get the draft up the pant leg. Of course it's been a LONG time since I've been on any bike !!! :-( ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ 5 Feb 96 2:22 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Michael Sennewald Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:37:21 +0100 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re:Any PC800's here in Europe ? %UNIPLEX %TO PC800@hpc.uh.edu %FROM msennewa %SYSTEM DHLNET %SUBJECT Re:PC800: Any PC800's here in Europe ? %VERIFY y %REGISTERED y %DATE 05/02/96 10:37 %REFERENCE 922325 > I had heard that the PC wasn't really popular in Germany because > it was too slow for really fast flying on the autobahns. I think you're right. The PC was never officially sold here because HONDA-Germany has the opinion that this bike is "too slow, too weak, 'too american-styled' for the German market. But some independent dealers import a few of them every year. The problem is to get equipment for the bike and so I'm interested to get addresses of dealers who have parts for the PC800 and will sell them overseas. Does anyone know how I can get informations about the Hondaline parts for the PC ? %UEND ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 11:49:39 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Dennis Kirk boo boo >Subject: Re: Dennis Kirk >Sent: 02/04 1:55 PM >From: 76722.2260@compuserve.com > >From: 76722.2260@compuserve.com (John M. Carruth) >To: Dentman711@aol.com (INTERNET:Dentman711@aol.com) >I didn't buy the bad tire from DK, the rear tire that I got from them was OK, >the front tire was from my local dealer and was bad. I just expected DK to >support me in dealing with Avon as much as they could. They were not >willing to >lend that support and THAT pissed me off, especially since I have spent a >lot of >$ there over the years. I seem to have made a mistake in throwing the blame here. My opologies. Measure once cut twice. Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://www.members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://www.members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** **** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) **** Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:36:13 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: pc800 mailinglist Subject: Re: Any PC800's here in Europe ? (Best would be Germany) On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 Msennewa@aol.com wrote: > Last year I bought a PC800 here in Germany, but it's really hard to find some > other PC800 owners. I want to know where and how I can get accessoires for > the PC. > > I would be glad to get some tips and tricks around this famous motorcycle. in the Netherlands we have a pc800 touring-club. There are about 150 members, not that much, but there are a lot more pc's on the road here. In my neighbourhood I know 8 other owners, none of them member of the club. I've got a list of Honda-parts for the pc800. It's from Safe, a motor-shop in Rotterdam. They've most parts for the pc in stock. But I think the Honda dealers can order all parts, so best thing to do is check out a local dealer. If you want to have the address of the club, or the address of Safe, send me a msg ;) Bas --- "Oh bugger! Those damned dwarves still haven't fixed my warpdrive." --- Esme Weatherwax tries warp 9 with her Galaxy-class broomstick Email bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl (fast ;) or bsltwr@zeelandnet.nl ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 05 Feb 96 20:32:51 EST From: Steve Schibuola <73414.466@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Lot's of 1989 PC800s out there... Hi, Harrison. You wrote: >Have you ever noticed that there are an awful lot of 1989 (i.e. white) >PC800s out there; that is in comparison to the other years? Not to sow dissent among the ranks, but I think this is the way it should be, since everyone knows that the 89 PC's are the only *PURE* PC's. My opinion is that Honda, in creating the 89 PC, offended the Gods of Motorcycling by creating the perfect motorcycle before humanity was mature enough to deal with it (you know, they've been touchy about this sort of thing ever since the Prometheus-stealing-fire incident ...). In their wrath, the GofM's sent down a pestilence of seven years of poor sales (which of course will be followed by seven years of excellent PC sales), and in atonement, Honda stopped production altogether for a couple of years, and then came out with less "pure" colors so as not to further offend the GofM's. (The 90's of course are the satanic-red anti-PC's created by a splinter faction within Honda) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:16:00 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Reply to: INFO REQUEST: PUTTING PC800 ON A TRAILER At 06:35 AM 1/30/96 -0500, you wrote: >>Hey guys, it must be spring! It is 6 degrees F and we at at over 6 hrs. of >>daylight! >>Wheeee! "On the road again..." >> >>Juan > >Juan! Juan! Wake up. You were having an awful dream about crossing the >desert and suffering heat stroke and it's only 6 degrees F. It's Seattle >weather here in the heart of Dixie. 40-50 degrees F and rain. Possible >snow by weekend. Go figure. >I guess I would like it up there with you since I like night time best. Rick, Nope, not a bad dream, not when we just came out of two solid weeks of temps below -35F =: - 0 and we are now increasing our daylight at the rete of 7 to 8 minutes a day. I hear that your weather hasn't been all that plesant. Have you been able to ride still? I've seen scenes of roadways and people slamming into each other because of icy conditions, Scary! Certainly wouldn't want to be there out on my PC! Here is a request for info: Does anyone have the phone number for Herr Gerbing (of Gerbing's electrically heated clothing)? I ordered a vest from him @ the Seattle show and nothing yet. I was hoping to have it by this saturday, since I am planning on doing a little "riding" : - ). Anyway, as an update to make those snowbound riders feel a bit better, here it is -10F (-35F windchill factor) and we are at 7hrs 21 min. of daylight, which means I no longer get to enjoy the sunset when I come back from lunch. I sent a few pictures to Neill, and as soon as he gives me the go-ahead I'll send him the rest so they can be posted in the PC800 home page. Hang in there guys, Spring's a comin'! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:23:51 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: 'Scuse me? >Not to sow dissent among the ranks, but I think this is the way it should be, >since everyone knows that the 89 PC's are the only *PURE* PC's. 'Scuse me? Did you call me? Did you rub this lamp? Oops, sorry, flashback to Disney's Alladin. Ahem... What is this sh..tuff about '89's being the only _pure_ PC's? I think Honda just made too many of them 'cause they ordered too much white paint, that's all. Besides, everyone knows that it is the _96's_ that are the "Satanic Red"/"Hades Black" , right? : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:04:43 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 18:44:30 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Lot's of 1989 PC800s out there... "Satanic Red," Steve-o? Demons shall plague your fuel system, and succubi shall distract you and cause you to forget to put you side stand down when you park. Steve ('90) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:27:54 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Touring Club.... On 2/5/96 Sebastian Kruit, our fellow PCer from the Continent, wrote: "In the Netherlands we have a pc800 touring-club. There are about 150 members, not that much, but there are a lot more pc's on the road here. In my neighborhood I know 8 other owners, none of them members of the club." 150 members-not that much! Sebastian, I am totally impressed and amazed. I knew that the PC had a larger following in Europe than here in the States, but I have a hard time envisioning a 150-member PC club! Actually, I belong to a rather large club here in Portland, Oregon. There's me and...let me look around now and take a count...oh, yeah, me. You have 8 neighbors with PCs, I haven't even seen 8 other PCs in the entire Portland area. I'm sure they're out there, but unfortunately we're not at all organized. That's why I love this list. I can chat with fellow enthusiasts who have discovered the virtues of this wonderful motorcycle. Tell us a little about what the club does. Do you have organized rides? Do you do a lot of traveling throughout other countries in Europe? And please, if the gentleman from Germany is listening (electronically), chime in and tell us about the type of riding you do. I've always been fascinated by the Alps Tour rides and other european rides that are written up in Rider and other mags. Keep A Good Contact Patch, Tim Macy Portland, OR 97225 timmacy@aol.com AMA#365197 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:33:42 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Head phone recommendation Anyone out there want to give their 2 cents worth on head phones for helmets? I am looking for stereo headphones for my wife. RiderWearhouse has Bass monster helmet speakers #3028 $23.00. What do you think? How about the chatterbox to go with these speakers? How about Cycle - Comm. They have a bunch of options. Anyone have one of their C.B. radios? Thanks for the help Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://www.members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://www.members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** **** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) **** Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 06 Feb 96 02:16:41 EST From: Willem van Alderwerelt <101362.2633@compuserve.com> To: PC800 owners Subject: Re:new member from Holland Hi, I am new to the list and I would like to introduce myself. My name is Willem van Alderwerelt. E-mail address: 101362.2633@compuserve.com I'm living in the Netherlands in Hoofddorp near Schiphol Airport(Amsterdam). After having driven a Honda Magna V45 for about a year and a lot of back aches I decided to buy a PC 800 in July 1994. This happened to be a white 1989 bike from Canada with 20,000 kilometers. Honda Netherlands never officially imported this bike, but fortunately there was and still is a company called SAFE Motors which is importing these bikes from the States (used and new). The 89 and 90 bike were officially imported by Honda of France and Italy and used for instance as a police bike and for ambulance services in bigger cities. In the Netherlands it has been very popular with riding schools. I know a couple of bikes with more than 150,000 kilometers (about 95,000 miles) and still going strong without any special maintenance. Getting spare parts is no problem, in my experience, as Honda Europe has them all in stock in Brussels, but prices double to triple the USA prices. Last summer after about 15,000 kilometers I decided to tradein the white bike for a black 1995 model which actually was almost new (demo model),registered in Feb,1995, due to local taxes with only 2,000 miles for about $ 11,000 !!!!. I added a Corbin saddle, the tall Hondaline windshield and the mudguard. I also installed warning blinker system, I think it is called in English. On my trips to the States (about once every year) I'm checking out the local Honda dealers about any "new" accessories. I am a member of a motorclub called Pacific Coast Nederland with approx. 200 members most of them with the 89 and 90 model. I have heard that there are about 1,000 PC's in the Netherlands. At the inauguration day there were about 65 PC's, I think, a quite impressive view. Are there anymore Dutch PC owners on the list? Question: Would anyone be prepared to share experiences on a cruise control system. I will be in SanCarlos, Cal. in the end of April and would like to buy whatever system, which is useful at local dealers somewhere in the San Fransisco area. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:26:17 -0600 (CST) Tue, 6 Feb 1996 8:26:07 -0500 (EST) To: Dentman711@aol.com From: "Waldo E. Meeks" Subject: Re: Head phone recommendation Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 01:33 AM 2/6/96 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone out there want to give their 2 cents worth on head phones for >helmets? I am looking for stereo headphones for my wife. >RiderWearhouse has Bass monster helmet speakers #3028 $23.00. What do you >think? I have use Bass Monster speakers for years and they are great. Very dependable and long lasting and fantastic sound. Waldo ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:57:30 -0500 From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: I pick it up Sunday... First, thanks to this great group for the many good suggestions. To say the least, they were helpful. I did purchase the '89 PC. Under 4,000 miles, under $4,000. The Honda dealer that checked it out said it was in excellent shape and they would have no problem buying it for the shop. The seller is transporting the bike from KC to Central Ohio, and a local Yamaha dealer (where my wife got her Virago) is transporting it from there. We go down Sunday to pick it up. To say I'm excited may be the understatement of the month. Now I have a reason to *really* hate winter, not just despise it like I do now. A while back I think I saw someone refer to an excellent aftermarket passenger backrest. If anyone knows the writer or supplier could I please ask that you post the info? Thank you again for the help. It is nice to now be an official member of the club. C'mon Spring. Alan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: Willem van Alderwerelt <101362.2633@compuserve.com> Cc: PC800 owners Subject: Re:new member from Holland Wilhem, WOW! I too, am impressed. A PC only club with 150-200 members! I can only imagine the sight of 50+ PCs cruising down the highway. I was in Amsterdam last summer (what are all those girls doing in their windows?) but didn't happen to see any. Interesting to hear from you, Wilhem. Richard Hardy San Diego, California with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Feb 1996 08:15:19 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 08:22:24 -0700 From: Neill Thompson To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Head phone recommendation -Reply I have an Arai helmet and the cheek cushions are removeable (and available in a variety of thicknesses). The cheek pad has a little cut out in it which appears to be for speakers. I took a <$20 pair of headphones and cut the speakers off the head band and put them in with passable results. I use a personal portable (radio/tape) in a belt pouch. In my investigation, the communicators are almost all in mono and involve a mic. Trying to combine a mic with the existing stereo headphones looked like a lost cause. Similarly, trying to get stereo sound out of the headsets which come with the Chatterbox et al looked hopeless. The only solution I have found that really looks 'right' is through J&M which is down here in Tucson. They are very pricey but seem to be very high quaility. Their approach to communications seems to be to go to a CB. That makes some sense to me since bike-to-bike has some obvious limitations. All in all, if I came into lots of money and went with J&M, I would probably spend close to $1000 and that wouldn't include my JVC portable but it would include the jack to plug it into. Until I hit the Powerball, I'll stick with what I got. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NThompso@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:59:20 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC 800 I enjoyed this one. I invited him to subscribe to the list. In a message dated 96-02-06 08:55:59 EST, you write: >Subj: PC 800 >Date: 96-02-06 08:55:59 EST >From: a.bonaventura@agora.stm.it >To: nthompso@aol.com > >Hi Neil > >I'm Alessandro a "was" owner of PC800 motorcycle. > >Now, I'm not anymore owner of this wonderful veichle, but very often I'll >remember the travels that with "her" me and my wife done. > >We travelled for 70.000 Km in 3 years. > >I prefer don't remeber when I lost this bike. > >Now I have another bike, but no other will be like her. > >I live in Italy and now that this motorcycle is phased out is impossible >find one. > >I hope that Honda will decide to rebuild this bike and improve some aspect >that for the European/Italian roads are not very efficient. > >In anyway I enjoied to found this WEB and I wish fantastic travels to all >PC800 owners. > >Ciao >Alessandro > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >From a.bonaventura@agora.stm.it Tue Feb 6 08:55:51 1996 >emin08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA13046 for >; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 08:55:50 -0500 >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 08:55:50 -0500 >From: a.bonaventura@agora.stm.it >To: nthompso@aol.com >Subject: PC 800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 06 Feb 96 20:32:42 EST From: Steve Schibuola <73414.466@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Re: Lot's of 1989 PC800s out there... >Steve I think you got something started. Heh, heh. Our secret is out! The 89's, under the guise of purity, are actually the demon troublemakers! >:-{}> In the words of William (or was it John? I'm always getting them mixed up) Hurt in the Big Chill, "Just tryin' to keep the conversation lively!" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:41:54 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: CB or not CB You wrote: The only solution I have found that really looks 'right' is through J&M which is down here in Tucson. Be sure to check out CycleComm before you commit to J&M . All the reviews seem to prefer the durability and construction as well as sound quality of the CycleComm units. ! (No I don't have one .....YET) ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:20:34 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Heated vest Michael, It's here! I didn't get a chance to call them, UPS delivered this morning. I'll start by giving it the acid test this Saturday when I take it out on the snowmobile. I'll keep you posted. >So far, yes. The gloves and socks did help, though I think having >full body coverage will help more. Now that we're skirting the >foothills of spring, though, I'll wait on purchasing more. Sounds like you are all set up! I fear that if I were to get anything else to put on: a) My wife would seriously object at the expenditure, and b) I'd feel like I was suiting up for one of NASA's missions! One of two people here in Fairbanks that I've seen riding all winter has a full setup, electric vest, gloves, chaps, socks , face-shield and grips. I guess the "Electric Horseman" has nothing on this guy. : - ) >I've concluded that one finger has bad circulation, because even with >the heated gloves, it gets cold. The rest of both hands stayed warm >enough. Weird. Hmm... Maybe that (glove) finger is non-functional? Does it heat up as well as the others? Anyway, thanks again for the info. Time to go Riding! (even if it is on a track and skis instead of two wheels, whee!) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 01:14:24 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Changes after 1989 I've seen other people state that there were significant changes to the PC after the 89 model year. Could someone tell me what they are? Anything particularly noteworthy? Any real improvements? Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:06:37 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: pc800 mailinglist Subject: Re: PC800 Touring Club.... On Tue, 6 Feb 1996 Timmacy@aol.com wrote: > On 2/5/96 Sebastian Kruit, our fellow PCer from the Continent, wrote: > > "In the Netherlands we have a pc800 touring-club. There are about 150 > members, not that much, but there are a lot more pc's on the road here. In > my neighborhood I know 8 other owners, none of them members of the club." > > 150 members-not that much! Sebastian, I am totally impressed and amazed. I > knew that the PC had a larger following in Europe than here in the States, > but I have a hard time envisioning a 150-member PC club! Actually, I belong > to a rather large club here in Portland, Oregon. There's me and...let me > look around now and take a count...oh, yeah, me. You have 8 neighbors with > PCs, I haven't even seen 8 other PCs in the entire Portland area. I'm sure > they're out there, but unfortunately we're not at all organized. That's why > I love this list. I can chat with fellow enthusiasts who have discovered the > virtues of this wonderful motorcycle. Tell us a little about what the club > does. Do you have organized rides? Do you do a lot of traveling throughout > other countries in Europe? And please, if the gentleman from Germany is > listening (electronically), chime in and tell us about the type of riding you > do. I've always been fascinated by the Alps Tour rides and other european > rides that are written up in Rider and other mags. There are 7 rides planned for the first half year. One is a week-end in Belgium and I've heard rumors about a 7 day tour of south-France at the end of summer. Most rides are about 100-150 km (about 60 to 100 miles) But most people must come from all over the country ( :)) the Netherlands is about 200km by 330km) so you might ride about 500km to show up for a short tour with the club. Unfortunatly the rides are not the gathering they should be, mostly about 15 people show up. We have an annual week-end with bbq, where about 60 or 70 people show up. Most people are also member of a local club and are just a member of the PC-club for the small magazine. We also receive 9 magazines a year with tips, hints and travel stories of members. It's not a very BIG mag, but hey, better receive 8 pages then nothing ;) Currently they publish about 225 mags per issue, but there are some people who get the mag, but don't own a pc. Oh, before I forget, there are some Belgium members too ;) Bas --- "Oh bugger! Those damned dwarves still haven't fixed my warpdrive." --- Esme Weatherwax tries warp 9 with her Galaxy-class broomstick Email bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl (fast ;) or bsltwr@zeelandnet.nl ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:17:15 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: Willem van Alderwerelt <101362.2633@compuserve.com> cc: PC800 owners Subject: Re:new member from Holland On 6 Feb 1996, Willem van Alderwerelt wrote: > I am a member of a motorclub called Pacific Coast Nederland with approx. 200 > members most of them with the 89 and 90 model. I have heard that there are about > 1,000 PC's in the Netherlands. At the inauguration day there were about 65 PC's, > I think, a quite impressive view. Are there anymore Dutch PC owners on the > list? Yep, and a member too ;) I might see you at the ride on 24 march. But I didn't know the club had 200 members! I wrote a few days ago we had about 150 and someone on the list almost freaked out :) He couldn't believe there was a pc-club with such a large amount of members. I live in Renesse on Schouwen-Duiveland and there are 8 other owners on this little isle (about 15km by 45km) The instructor at the school I took lessons had a pc and I loved it on first sight, but I didn't like the colour, he had a '90 model, red. I think the white suits the pc much better. Bas --- "Oh bugger! Those damned dwarves still haven't fixed my warpdrive." --- Esme Weatherwax tries warp 9 with her Galaxy-class broomstick Email bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl (fast ;) or bsltwr@zeelandnet.nl 07 Feb 1996 16:38:40 -0600 (CST) by radford.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA11867; Wed, 07 Feb 1996 14:32:32 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 14:32:32 -0800 From: Spencer Farrow Subject: Info Request: PC vs. Connie To: cog@concours.ctron.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, KlassC@aol.com Hi Folks - I'm posting this message to both the PC List (Honda Pacific Coast) and the COG List (Kawasaki Concours). The reason for that will become obvious shortly....... As a result of the recent "Connie vs. PC" chatter on the COG list, I was emailed by KlassC@aol.com (Chris) that he was trying to decide which bike was better suited to him, and he wondered what to expect in prices for recent models of both bikes. He asked that I post his question to the list(s). He said, in part: (the mad snipper what snips at midnight strikes again!) > I am going back and forth over the PC and the Connie. While the PC does not >have the speed, every article I read about the Connie says that the bike >vibrates too much. ............. > Any insight would be greatly appreciated. He also expressed concern over the potential maintenance that either bike may require. For Chris' benefit, here is how to post to each list: COG List - email to: cog@concours.ctron.com PC List - email to: pc800@hpc.uh.edu For those of you who feel like responding, I suggest that you send a copy to Chris, as I do not know whether he has successfully subscribed to either or both lists. My own response was lengthy, and probably(!) a bit biased toward the Connie; I'd be happy to send a copy to anyone who'd like to read it, but I didn't want to use that much bandwidth on the lists, unless multiple folks care to see my ramblings. (The COGgers are probably sick of my blabbering, by now, anyway! ;^) ) Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow '86 Concours - The Grey Ghost COG # 2014 AMA # 606675 sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:38:23 -0800 From: Carl McMullen To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: 1990 PACIFIC COAST FOR SALE My 1990 Honda Pacific Coast with 9,000+ miles and in very good condition is for sale. Price is $4975. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:36:06 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Fwd: Re: Head phone recommendation >To: Dentman711@aol.com >I saw in your footnote that you are riding a 1995 Pacific Coast. I am a >(very) >short (5'6") Concours rider and balancing artist. I think the seat height of >the PC is quite a bit lower. How would the PC compare to a Connie in terms of >having enough ooomph to keep up with my friends and enough comfort to go the >long distance. I would very much appreciate your advice. Thanks! I wish I knew! Unfortunately I haven't had the bike long enough to compare it. Although I could compare it to the KZ400 I rode 12 years ago. Much better......and then some. There are several people on the PC800 list you are OVER qualified to answer that question. So I defer to them. Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:25:48 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Subcribe ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:27:03 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800--changes afer 1989... Jeff Hamilton (JeffHamltn@aol.com) asked if there have been any significant changes since 1989. I spoke at a salesmen at our local "big" Hounda dealer on exactly that same subject. He said that the only change has been the color from year to year. But, then again, I have noted that they tend not to stay too up on the low-volume bikes. And, since I wasn't buying, he kept looking over my shoulder like he was going to miss a sale coming in the door. I like the smaller dealerships. They talk to ya, not past ya. Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Macy Portland, OR 97225 timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 21:09:46 -0500 From: Jeff Leech To: PC 800 User Group Subject: PC800 Changes since '89 On the issue of what has been changed singe '89. I have gone through back issues of Motorcyclist Mag, and Rider Mag and have come up with what I believe are the majority of the changes. (If I missed a few chime in!) '89 List Price: $7698 Color: Pearl White '90 List Price: $6498 Color: Red/Siver Changes:1) New taller and upright windshield 2) Revamped bodywork fasteners (I was told by my dealer that the new ones were less likely to break, and the ones that are used most often (engine access panels) can be replaced if broken) 3) Cold weather ridability enhancements to carbs 4) More accurate fuel gauge '94 List Price: $6499 Color: Black/Silver Changes:1) No Radio '95 List Price: $7499 No change from '94 '96 List Price: $8599 Color: Red/Silver Changes: None from '94/'95 I'm sure I missed a couple, but this is what I could dig up. Sources: Rider Magazine, Nov 1993 Motorcyclist Magazine, Nov 1993 Rider Magazine, Aug 1994 Rider Magazine, Aug 1995 Jeff Leech Centerville, OH '94 Pacific Coast w/23,000 Miles '95 Buell S-2 w/6,000 Miles AMA 406422 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:27:15 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Changes since '89 At 09:09 PM 2/7/96 -0500, you wrote: >On the issue of what has been changed singe '89. I have gone through >back issues of Motorcyclist Mag, and Rider Mag and have come up with > '96 List Price: $8599 > Color: Red/Silver > Changes: None from '94/'95 Quick chime in: Current list price: $8,699 yikes! Color: Satanic Red/Hades _Black_ (not silver) : - ) Later! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Timmacy@aol.com Reply-to: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: PC800--changes afer 1989... Gcc: nnfolder:misc-mail Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 23:17:16 -0600 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "T" == Timmacy writes: T> He said that the only change has been the color from year to year. That's not quite true. Browsing the repair manual, I see that there were quite a few changes in plastic clips and screws fastening the bodywork. It looks like the crash protectors might hold up better on '90+ models. The weight also increased by 3kg in '90. I recall hearing that the jetting was changed slightly, too. These differences are really minor, though I don't know what makes the extra 3kg. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:22:58 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC Power Does anybody have any ideas for engine mods? I am wavering between the PC and the Connie. I would preffer the PC but if there were any engine enhancers it would cinch the choice. Also, if anybody knows of a dealer selling a 95 leftover or a low milage older one and is located anywhere in the mountain states region please let me know. And one least thing, is there a way to get a list of Honda dealers in the US? I would like to start calling them lookinf for a PC. Here in Wyoming the "pickens sre Slim". Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:47:50 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: pc800 mailinglist Subject: Re: Changes after 1989 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996 JeffHamltn@aol.com wrote: > I've seen other people state that there were significant changes > to the PC after the 89 model year. Could someone tell me what > they are? Anything particularly noteworthy? Any real improvements? I've received some electronic schematics from the dutch PC-club and one of the changes I've noticed is a parking light that is on the '89 models, the '90 and up models don't have it. I've removed the fuse of the parking-light when it got me one time, don't need it to get me twice. When you use the steering-lock, and don't turn it far enough, the parking-light is on. I made this mistake when a parked the bike at work at about 7.25 am. When I went home at 4.30 pm, I _tried_ to start it... ofcourse the battery was dead! Another problem is everytime you use the steering-lock, it'll be turned on for about half a second when you turn your key. Not very good for the battery! I don't know about other changes, but we'll know the other changes in a few msgs ;) Bas --- "Oh bugger! Those damned dwarves still haven't fixed my warpdrive." --- Esme Weatherwax tries warp 9 with her Galaxy-class broomstick Email bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl (fast ;) or bsltwr@zeelandnet.nl ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 08 Feb 96 16:17:08 EST From: "Cory S. Estes" <103342.3616@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Honda Shop Manuals ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: CORY, INTERNET:ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil Not sure what a Pacific Coast shop manual costs right now, but thought some of you PC riders might be interested in having one for a good price. My friendly neighborhood Honda dealership has a manual for the '89 PC and another for the '89-'90 PC for sale. $25 each. If you're interested, E-mail me and I'd be glad to pick one up for you. I'd be glad to send it along for the cost of the purchase and the postage to send it to you. In addition, they have a whole stack of other manuals for other Honda bikes. I'd be willing to make a trip up there and make a list of what they have available if I get an indication that the interest is there. I don't stand to gain anything from this, just hoping to help out. Later, Cory "Traveling Turtle" '89 Pacific Coast "Millenium Turtle" '82 FT-500 Ascot 103342.3616@compuserve.com estescs_at_mobile@ccgate.eielson.af.mil ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:45:49 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Splitfires/Headlamp At 10:00 PM 2/8/96 EST, you wrote: > I installed them on my '90 PC right after I bought it. The bike had 14,000 >miles on it and the Splitfire spark plugs immediately improved the bike's >starting capabilities. The bike also seem to run a little smoother, but other >than the much improved starting, I haven't noticed much else. >Rusty Thanks Rusty, I think I might go ahead and get them for my PC as well. I just don't like the idea of paying the equivalent of a four cylinder tuneup for a v-twin, since Splitfires are definitely not cheap! On the other hand, I keep telling myself that the money I save in valve adjustments I can well use for the plugs. Anyone out there have a recommendation for a carb synch. gauge? Tip of the day: There has been some talk about fabricating and/or modifying a plexiglass cover for the headlamp. The PC has less problems with broken lenses since it is made out of Polycarbonate, but I'd hate to rely entirely on this. Last summer I found something pretty close to perfect when I took my cage to NOVUS for windshield repair. The dealer had these sheets of plastic that are self stick on one side. They are about 3/16" thick and quite soft. Easy to trim and shape, the conform well to compound curves. They are optically transparent and virtually invisible once applied. (Sometimes I rap the headlamp of the wagon just to make sure it hasn't fallen off!) Not cheap, about 65 bucks for both lamps on the cage, but at $265 per lamp, cheap insurance indeed. I have some leftovers that I will be experimenting with just to make sure that the glue won't cloud the polycarb, and I'll keep you posted. Later! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 19:58:52 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 20:12:46 +0000 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: [Fwd: Excuse me.......] Dave: I'm Pat. I live on the BMW lists here on the net. Last October, one of our members who scans your PC800 lists forwarded a message from you about a test ride you took on a Beemer R1100R. Anyway, did you GET IT??? :-) The reason I am writing you is that I had a beloved PC that I traded in for a K1100LT Beemer. I miss the PC, IO really do, but that K-bike......... Anyway, I had several Pacific Coast hats made up, and I found them in a recent move. Two styles, red printing on white, and white printing on red. (At that time, the black 94s were not out yet. Honda never made a PC800 hat that I ever found, so I made my own. They are NOT fancy, I couldn't afford to go crazy with them, but they were better than not having one at all. I'd like to get rid of them (I'm KEEPING my original :-) and am wondering if you or anyone on your list may want to take them off my hands...real cheap. I belive I have a grand total of about 8 or 10 left, maybe a few more, still brand new in the box. I'd be glad to let them go for 4 bucks apiece, and I'll pay shipping too just to help clear my basement out. I'd be glad to forward a polaroid of them to you if you are interested. Former PROUD PC800 owner (90 Red) Pat Roddy@ra1.randomc.com It was a beautiful day/The sun beat down 93 K1100LT I had the radio on/I was driving 95 R100GS Trees bent back/Me and Del were singin' K-Whiner#26, "Little Runaway"/I was flyin'..... Buford, GA USA Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 23:59:41 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Changes from 1989.. I posted some earlier remarks about my inability to get specific info from a local Honda salesman on PC800 changes over the years (except color changes--like I didn't already know!). I couldn't imagine that a bike manufacturer would bring a model back year after year without making ANY changes on it besides the color, and I had (hopefully) expected that the Honda folks would be able to enlighten me. As usual, you good people on this list have come through, and the Honda people at this particular dealership disappointed me. They USED to sell just motorcycles. Now they also sell ATVs, jet skis, power generators, lawn mowers, and Gawd-knows what else. I've gone with my Beemer buddy to the local BMW shop a few times, and those guys know if a screw size in the headlight has been changed from model to model! All of the people there, including the owner, will sit down & talk MCs at the drop of a wrist pin. The Honda dealership owner also owns 7 car dealerships. Don't think we'll be seeing him in the coffee room... I realize that the only constant is change, and I don't begrudge the dealership its ability to grow and expand, but the personal touch seems to have been lost in the transition. I happen to think that's an important ingredient in the motorcycle madness mix. The only trouble is--the big shop's only 5 minutes from where I live. I did find a great small shop in Woodburn--a 40 minute ride. Gee, ma, another excuse to ride! Time to transfer my business. Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Macy Portland, OR 97225 timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 23:59:42 -0500 Apparently-To: bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl Apparently-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Thanks, Bas, for the post! Keep us up on your activities, and write it up if you do go on a tour of southern France. That would be a ride of a lifetime for me.... Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Macy Portland, OR 97225 timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 23:59:37 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Cold Humor... on 2/7/96 Mike Waller (wallerm@wcc2.msm.wcc.govt.nz) of Wellington, NZ posted a great "How Cold Is It?" list. I just wanted to say thanks--it was great! My wife (a native Wisconsinite) and myself (15 winters in South Milwaukee) absolutely loved it. I have passed it on to my Wisconsin friends for their enjoyment. Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Macy Portland, OR 97225 timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 09 Feb 96 00:05:18 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Headlight covers Juan Goula wrote... There has been some talk about fabricating and/or modifying a plexiglass cover for the headlamp. The PC has less problems with broken lenses since it is made out of Polycarbonate, but I'd hate to rely entirely on this. Last summer I found something pretty close to perfect when I took my cage to NOVUS for windshield repair. The dealer had these sheets of plastic that are self stick on one side. They are about 3/16" thick and quite soft. Easy to trim and shape, the conform well to compound curves. They are optically transparent and virtually invisible once applied. (Sometimes I rap the headlamp of the wagon just to make sure it hasn't fallen off!) Not cheap, about 65 bucks for both lamps on the cage, but at $265 per lamp, cheap insurance indeed. I have some leftovers that I will be experimenting with just to make sure that the glue won't cloud the polycarb, and I'll keep you posted. Later! Ventura makes headlight covers, and I have an ST1100 headlight cover on my '90 PC800. The cover is a bit taller than the PC headlight, but the shape matches well, and I installed it so that the top of the cover was aligned with the top of the headlight., The extra depth is at the bottom of the headlight, and it looks just fine! The sloping sides match perfectly with the headlight. It attaches with four round pieces of Velcro. I bought mine from Rob Pemble, who sells Saeng goodies (I have Saeng windshield edging on my PC windscreen) and other stuff. Ventura also makes a neat bike pack system that I have tried on my PC800. two bags zip together, one facing front on the passenger seat and the other facing the rear over the body panel. Two sizes of bags are available...several combinations could be attained. They have a rack for use with the bags, but my Corbin backrest would serve the purpose well. Anyway, Rob's address is POB 569, Dillsboro NC 28725-0569 and his telephone number is 704/586-5074. ******************************************* DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director Honda Sport Touring Association HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA (Life) Member # 180901 1990 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Life is short...I think I'll go ridiing!" ******************************************* ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 10:58:34 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: More Power/Dealers Jeff Leech, Thanks for the info. But, when I said mountain states I meant the Rocky Mountains. Sorry I should have been more clear. If you have the same info please let me know. Also, I love the Buel. I was wondering if there is anyone offering mods to increase power for the PC? Do you know any wasy of raising the power? Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 08:39:22 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Ventura rack At 12:05 AM 2/9/96 EST, you wrote:. Ventura >also makes a neat bike pack system that I have tried on my PC800. two bags zip >together, one facing front on the passenger seat and the other facing the rear >over >the body panel. Two sizes of bags are available...several combinations could be >attained. They have a rack for use with the bags, but my Corbin backrest would >serve the purpose well. Anyway, Rob's address is POB 569, Dillsboro NC >28725-0569 > and his telephone number is 704/586-5074. Dana, at the Seattle M/C show I asked the guy at the Ventura booth about a rack and he said one was not available for the PC. Was he wrong or did you "customize" one? If one _is_ available, it will be a hard choice between a Givi trunk and the pack system. Hmmm... Decisions, decisions. : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:53:13 -0800 (PST) From: Johan Lai To: PC800 Mail List Subject: Re: Splitfires/Headlamp On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, Juan A. Goula wrote: > At 10:00 PM 2/8/96 EST, you wrote: > > I installed them on my '90 PC right after I bought it. The bike had 14,000 > >miles on it and the Splitfire spark plugs immediately improved the bike's > >starting capabilities. The bike also seem to run a little smoother, but other > >than the much improved starting, I haven't noticed much else. > >Rusty > > Thanks Rusty, I think I might go ahead and get them for my PC as well. I > just don't like the idea of paying the equivalent of a four cylinder tuneup > for a v-twin, since Splitfires are definitely not cheap! On the other hand, > I keep telling myself that the money I save in valve adjustments I can well > use for the plugs. ..snip..snip.. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Juan A. Goula > School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences > University of Alaska Fairbanks > AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG > 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX > ----------------------------------------------------------------- I was about to buy a set for my car a few months ago and the guy at the counter warned me that the Splitfires burn a lot hotter than normal plugs. He said some aluminum heads might not be able to handle it. I figure if my car can't handle it (89 Ford Probe), I dare not put it into Cassandra (my PC). How long have you had the plugs Rusty? ========================================================================= Johan Lai UUCP Mail: None Unix Systems Admin Internet Mail: jlai@filenet.com Engineering Services Snail Mail: 3565 Harbor Boulevard FileNet Corporation Costa Mesa, CA 92626 "System Administration: It's a dirty job, somebody said I had to do it." ========================================================================= ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 09 Feb 96 16:14:16 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Pacific Coast changes Jeff Leech listed a mesage with changes to the Pacific Coast since its introduction in 1989. Earlier this week I saw a '96 Pacific Coast for the first time. Hey, I think that the color scheme is absolutely gorgeous! The bright "VFR Italian Ducati Fire Engine Red" body panels contrasted by the very dark metallic gray lower panels and caliper covers is just perfect! Now...how do I justify trading my '90 model with 62,000 trouble-free miles for one of those babies? BTW, I wish that they would make changes other than just the color, especially when they increase the price by hundreds of dollars! For example, the clock and remote headlight adjuster would be nice additions, and, if they could find the room, a larger 14 amp battery. However, I still have the original battery (I use a Battery Tender regularly), as well as the original front brake pads and rear brake linings! My mechanic accuses me of dragging my feet when I stop instead of using the brakes! BTW, I average 15,000 miles on tires, and have used both Metzeler ML2s and Dunlop K-177s. Other modifications I have made include a Corbin seat, Progressive Suspension heavy duty front fork springs, SOS throttle lock, headlight modulator and Priority Plus tail light unit, Saeng windscreen edging and a Ventura headlight cover. Be careful out there! ******************************************* DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director Honda Sport Touring Association HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA (Life) Member # 180901 1990 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Life is short...I think I'll go ridiing!" ******************************************* ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 22:40:59 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: pc800 mailinglist Subject: Re: PC 800 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Dave Gross wrote: > I've been reading with interest about your adventures in the > Netherlands...would it be possible for you to give me a name and phone # of > the people who buy PC's in the states for you? I'm interested in selling mine. > So is my brother...I have an 89, his is a '90... The bikes are imported by a few big bike-dealers here, I think due to the load of paperwork most people don't want to import bikes themselves. The bikes that are imported are mostly new, the other, second-hand, bikes are mostly owned by people who move from the US to the Netherlands. You might place adverts in magazines overhere, but I don't think you'll get much replies. When we import a bike, we'll have to pay taxes over the catalog-price of the bike. I don't know the right amount, but it's around a fifth of the catalog-price! A new PC is about Fl.24.000 ($16.000) here. What is the price in the US? Bas --- "Oh bugger! Those damned dwarves still haven't fixed my warpdrive." --- Esme Weatherwax tries warp 9 with her Galaxy-class broomstick Email bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl (fast ;) or bsltwr@zeelandnet.nl ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:31:58 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC Info and Power Richard, Thanks for the info. By the way how tall are you. I am wondering if my arms will reach differently than yours. Have you ever heard of any engine mods? Also do you know what the wrist saver is? It was on the web page. I am trying to trade my 95 Vulcan 800 plus some cash for a 95 leftover PC800. Everytime I send a posting to the list I get a message that the mail was undeliverable, even though it appears to be posted. Do you have this problem? I am sending it to pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Thanks Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: KlassC@aol.com Reply-to: Jason L Tibbitts III cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC Info and Power Gcc: nnfolder:misc-mail Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 18:39:56 -0600 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "K" == KlassC writes: K> Everytime I send a posting to the list I get a message that the mail was K> undeliverable, even though it appears to be posted. If anyone ever gets these, send them to me (pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu). I'll probably get one now. There's probably an address on the list that's bouncing, but the mail software is too braindead to figure out where to send the bounce to. K> I am sending it to pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu That address should, and does, work, but you should send mail to pc800@hpc.uh.edu because it's more current and because it's less to type. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 09 Feb 96 20:47:25 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Ventura Bike Pack/Rack for PC800 Juan Goula asked for confirmation that Ventura makes a PC800 rack for their Bike-Pack system. They do not list a PC800 rack in their brochure, but I never considered needing one! I have the Corbin seat, and the large passenger backrest would work perfectly with the Ventura bags! It would probably work OK with the stock backrest. The only modification I would have to make is to reposition the straps on the bags to strap around the passenger handrails...no major problem! I would also want to put a piece of sheepskin or other padding on top of the trunk surface behind the seat. I had also decided that using only one bag (the smaller one of 30 litres) facing rearward would work well when riding two-up. When using both bags and riding solo, I would position the larger of the two bags (44 litres) facing front in the passenger seat (it would make an excellent backrest) and the smaller bag (30 litres) facing rearward over the trunk. If I was to make an extended long-distance cross-country trip on my PC, this system would definitely be my choice over anything else on the market! For additional information,contact HSI, 405 Howell Way, Edmonds WA 98020, 1-800-688-6439 or 206-672-3774. (or Rob Pemble, POB 569, Dillsboro NC 28725-0569, 704/586-5074. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:28:40 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Re: Ventura Bike Pack/Rack for PC800 At 08:47 PM 2/9/96 EST, you wrote: >Juan Goula asked for confirmation that Ventura makes a PC800 rack for their d the seat. I had also decided that using only one bag (the smaller > >an extended long-distance cross-country trip on my PC, this system would >definitely be my choice over anything else on the market! > > Well, I guess you guys never saw a rack like *I* made for my PC !!! For my trip to Oshkosh, I created a wooden "friend". I started out by making a FLAT platform to sit on the passenger seat -and- raise my tent up high enough that it did not obstruct my vision from the rear view mirror. One thing led to another, and it got it's own backrest which mounted in place of the normal passenger backrest (Honda). Since it was going to stick up in the air ....I shaped it so it looked like a person's head and shoulders. A couple of pegs and holes here and there and I had places to bungee on the bed roll, a small Boy Scout type of day pack..... well you get the idea. By the way it also worked well for *parade* duty. I could dress it up ....put a helmet on it..... and on and on... I made the sides of the platform so that they fit onto the passenger hand rails. The attachment points were the backrest bolts and a nylong strap around the Corbin driver 'backrest' in the front. Worked great !!! ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ id FAA28418; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:28:43 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:28:43 -0500 To: wingS@onramp.armchair.mb.ca, MOTOLIST@onpmomma.isc-br.com, PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: NYC Show Well it's 5:30 a.m. time to get off here, get into the shower, and then off to the NYC Motorcycle show. Hope to see some of my 'Net' acquaintances there !!! ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:36:08 -0500 Apparently-To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Apparently-To: hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu th. I own and donate a substantial amount of money to a 750cc Jet Ski. I ran 2 sets of Splitfires when I first bouht it. I couldn't tell any diff. except in my wallet. I used to race motocross (Honda CR250R) and ran the fine wire plugs, such as BR8EV instead of BR8S. This EV would be a fine wire Gold Paladium center electrode. VX would be a Platinum. And GV would be a Gold-Paladium center electrode V-type Racing use . The fine wires seemed to help this ported bike. There was less fouling and less frequent plug changes. Although when a race hangs inthe balance I was never to fond of counting on an old plug. I never got my hands on any GV plugs but a quick check in my dealers catalog showed NGK listings for EGV, GV and the rest. I also realize that the PC is NOT a 2 stroke. So what does that mean. Well hopefully it means no fouling. But other than that I think a good plug is a good plug. This is only my personal impression of how plugs performed. Later Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:36:09 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Head phones Chatter O.K. So far the majority has voted for: Chatterbox (works good and is cheap) J&M (works great costs like it) Bass Monster helmet speakers (great) How about this Take a pair of Bass Monsters and graft them onto the intercom mic of the Tandem Chatterbox. This would give me the better speakers with inexpensive communication between rider and passanger. I have a cell phone, so I could live without the CB etc. Although I wouldn't mind a full on system, I can't see the price. Yet. Well what do you think? Would splicing the bass monsters onto the Chatterbox wires decrease the quality of the sound to much? Will I have stereo from a Walman played through this system or is the Chatterbox Mono only? This may not be very practicle since the 2 headsets for the chatterbox cost $30 each thebox is $50 and the 2 pair of Bass Monsters is $23 each. That's $160 plus tax titile tag. Well mull this over and let me know what you think. Thanks to everyone who responded already. Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:25:52 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC Radio I have heard that Honda stopped making the built in radio for the PC. Does anybody have an idea of a good system? I am looking for an AM/FM/Cass, intercom and if possible a CB. I know about J&M's pack system. But $1000!?!?! If there are any alternatives let me know. I am also having a tough time finding a 95 leftover. I am in Wyoming, but willing to travel to get one. Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:36:51 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Changes since '89 Thanks for all the info folks. I wonder if the modified bodywork is available in the 89 paint job? I sure like the idea of having stronger tabs and fasteners--I've already broken several. Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:40:11 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC Hats In an earlier message, Pat Roddy wrote about PC hats for sale. I tried to send him an email, but it was returned, hence this message posted to the PC newsgroup. Pat, I'm interested! Please email me with details. Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:47:28 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: reap@pixi.com (Ronald E. Pacholec) Subject: Thanks! Aloha! I've been off line for a week, but I want to thank you guys for your suggestions on polishes and protectants against the salt for my PC and, dare I type the word, *cage*. I'm also really pleased with the recommendations for the ML 2 rear tire. It took 3 weeks to get here, but it was worth it. So now me and Willie Nelson are "on the road again" Whoopie! While I was at the Honda shop I saw the new PC. I like red, but..... that bike looks like one of our sweet young angels who works the night shift down on Kalakaua. I also asked about bike rentals. I was told that the shop knows some guys who would rent their bikes for a couple of days or a week. There are rental shops downtown, but the rates are about $100 per day for an average bike. I don't know the rates through the Honda shop, but I'd be happy to check this out for anyone who's interested. Riding here really is a great experience. I read the mail about the headlamp protection. I don't know much about this, but just recently I parked next to another PC which had a problem. I couldn't contact the owner, but apparently he put too strong a replacement lamp in and fried the polycarbonate. There was an opaque white spot about 1 1/2 inch in diameter in the middle of his lens (which was not modified). Adding a protective layer of plastic film might affect the heat transfer in the lens and cause some damage. Hope all you guys up North stay warm taking your favorite biochemical heater for a ride this Wednesday. Again, if anyone's planning to come here and wants to get info on bike rentals, just drop me a line. Time to go swimming......:-) Aloha, Ron Pacholec reap@pixi.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: NThompso@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:21:09 -0500 To: fulmer@calweb.com cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: site facts In a message dated 96-02-08 19:50:50 EST, you write: >Subj: site facts >Date: 96-02-08 19:50:50 EST >From: fulmer@calweb.com (Mark Fulmer) >To: nthompso@aol.com > >Hey Neill, > > May we have your permission to use information from your site >concerning events, equipment specs - factual stuff - on The Auto Channel >(theautochannel.com)? We're trying to get a motorcycle section up and >going. > >Thanks, > >Mark Fulmer >Editor In Chief >The Auto Channel >fulmer@calweb.com > I don't think I can, or would want to, give a blanket permission. There are two main reasons. 1) Much of the material on the page I maintain has been contributed by other people. I have tried to indicate the contributor but I feel sure that I have probably overlooked some people. Those contributions were for a specific use. I would not want my contributors to see their stuff cropping up elsewhere on the net without their permission. 2) The nature of a web page, as I'm sure you are aware, is that it is a work in process. The page is constantly evolving. Corrections and additions are being made almost daily. I would find it troubling to have out of date material out there and burdensome to maintain it in two places. I have absolutely no problem with you pointing to the PC800 web page. That would be great! If there is something specific that you are interested in, let me know and I can determine if either of the two issues above apply. Perhaps, I can offer a suggestion. My page is dedicated to a particular model of motorcycle as many motorcycle and car web pages are. There are however, many models for which no web page exists. Perhaps it could be your role to locate the fans and gather the input to kick off those web pages. For the ones you maintain in-house, you are the owner/author/editor. There are a great many indexes or directories and you should hope to be something more than one of those. The world already has too many Yazoos, and NetCrawlers, and Net Searchers. But if you were a front end to existing pages and a promoter for the pages which are yet to be, I think that you might be very successful. I am flattered that you are interested in my humble project and I if I understand what you are trying to do, I am awed by your ambition. I would be happy to help do what I can, particularly if it promotes the motorcycle which I love. Good luck and please contact me if I can help. If in your travels, you come across any good Honda Pacific Coast material which is suitable for publishing on the web, I would do what I could to make a home for it. Did The Auto Channel ever cover the Honda Pacific Coast? Is there video available? Thanks, Neill (Webster) Thompson nthompso@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 11 Feb 96 10:45:02 EST From: Willem van Alderwerelt <101362.2633@compuserve.com> To: PC800 owners Subject: PC800:Holland On Feb 7, 1996 Bas Kruit wrote about the 150 versus 200 members of the Dutch PC Club. In the editorial of magazine #3, 1995 it is said that we even have more than 200 members. The address and name of the club is: MV Pacific Coast Nederland Hans van Vliet (chairman) Stoelenmatterhof 31 3123 EL Schiedam The Netherlands About my remarks on the use of PC's in ambulance and police services I'm afraid I don't have any pictures. I've read this story in one of the first articles I ever read about the PC. I will try to get some pictures of the gatherings the club had to submit to the webpage. Bas, I guess we will meet March 24 at Hoogerheide! Re the prices of the PC in the Netherlands, we have to pay a large amount of taxes. If I were to import a new bike directly from the States costs of transport and taxes would start at about $ 4400 at the current $ rateand a list price of $ 8000. In this way you would not have any dealer service or guarantee whatsoever. I have often considered to import one myself, but it takes quite an effort. Regards, Willem id TAA17632; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:26:52 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:26:52 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu, MOTOLIST@onpmomma.isc-br.com, wingS@onramp.armchair.mb.ca From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: NYC M/C Show Well, I left home at about 6:15 am and returned at 12:30 am from the NYC trip. My daughter is a driver for the local coach line and we requested her as our driver for this trip. There are times when Dad has to be proud of his kids and blow their horn a little. Her husband died two years ago, leaving her with a three year old son, a campground, a father-in-law, and very little insurance. She works hard and loves what she does, ESPECIALLY the bus driving. Anyway.....approximately 40 of the 44 passengers on our bus attended the show. The promoters handled our special group rate admission in a quick and friendly manner. Once we passed the turnstiles it was every man for him/herself. I personally visited just about every booth and display. I walked, talked, and looked from 11:45 until 4:30 !!! The Victor-McLaglen Corps did a great demo of slow riding stunt work. Catch them sometime if you get the chance. I think the show was bigger and better than last year. The improved space in the aisles made getting around much easier, however there were MANY people lined up to see displays and it was difficult (but not impossible) to get to the counter for brochures or to purchase something. I confess to NOT purchasing anything of consequence at the show, but I did get to try on various gloves, helmets, jackets and .... bikes... to see what did and didn't fit me. The Triumph area was very busy.....possibly unfairly, I didn't even get on a bike there since they all looked like crotch rockets with the exagerated forward lean as the normal riding position and that is nothing I want to do. There were a lot of younger guys happily sitting and dreaming though ! Suzuki .... again the sport bikes were the hot items. Some of the small cruiser and standards look intriguing when it comes to price especially as a second bike to make quick hops around town. Harley .... what can I say. Ducati and Bimoto had small displays ... not my style. Yamaha .... well the Royal Star is surely a GREAT LOOKING cruiser. I don't know how it will work on the road, but it sure looks great. I didn't think the riding position was exactly 'cruiser' though. I had to lean forward a little more than I think you should while 'cruisin'. HONDA ... I kind of like the new Pacific Coast paint scheme. O.K., they had two of the Valkyrie on display...pedestal ...no you can't get on them. They looked like they would work well, but they didn't look as "BAD" as the Yamaha !! BMW .... gosh they're tall ! Neat windshields, good workmanship, they just don't feel right to me though. A great day, a good show. I probably will skip it next year but will surely come back at least every other year! As a final note, we discovered what would probably be a nice motorcycle road on the way home. We planned to travel Rte 42 from Shandaken to Lexington through what is called the "Notch", however a serious auto accident had the road closed and we had to backtrack. We took Rte 214 from Phonecia to Hunter. It is steep, and twisty with washouts and steep dropoffs. I'm glad my daugher can REALLY DRIVE those buses !!! ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: SteveZas@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:59:30 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Honda PC800's Hello! My name is Steve and I received this address from a fellow motorcycle enthusiast. What is your organization all about? Can I subscribe to your Newsgroup/listserve? Thanks! Steve Zasueta ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:54:24 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Lost & Found Hello everyone. Has anyone heard from Neill lately? Sent him a message a few days ago, but since I've been bugging him with ftp stuff I'm not sure if he hasn't been on line or he is just PO'ed at me for being a pain in the arse. (You aren't, are you Neill? : - ) Anyway, just one more question. Since the mailer was changed to respond automatically to the origin of the message instead of the listserv, did the individual that asked for details on the foot wind-guards ever get a response? Could you share with the rest of us? Thanks! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:38:13 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Head phones Chatter At 11:58 AM 2/12/96 -0800, you wrote: >Leon wrote: > >>I have used a pair of Maxon 49MHZ communicators for about 4 years now. They Cory wrote: >Juan and I have used the Chatterbox units for a while now, Juan and his wife, >longer than I. They do need to be removed when not in use, but seem to be very >durable. It is a snap to remove them (literally) just unplug the earphone/mic combo and slide out the C'box out of its holder. The speakers/mic remain in the helmet. If the speaker installation is done properly you won't even notice them. >I'll admit to being one who tries hard to take care of my stuff to >make it last, so I'm not hard on things. The units have been reliable, durable, >and faithful. Their battery pack requires 8 AA's and I haven't been let >down yet. Juan says that he replaces his batteries every two years just >because it seems like they OUGHT TO BE QUITTING ANY TIME NOW. True, the first set lasted two seasons, but keep in mind they were _Alaska_ seasons. You could get the harness to hook it up to your battery on the bike, but it is one more thing you have to disconnect yourself from when it comes time to stop. Besides, you wouldn't get any "funny" looks from the gas station clerk when you are talking to your buddy, who is waiting outside with the bikes and he doesn't realize you have a radio in your helmet! : - ) I carry my battery pack in a hip pouch ("bum bag" to you New Zealanders). My wife carries hers in a breast pocket of her First Gear Scout jacket (one of twenty or so in that jacket!). > I know they >aren't as useful as a CB, but for our use they've been great. With a bit of >time, patience, and thought the speakers will fit into the helmet padding so >they can't be seen or felt, but they can be heard. On my old HondaLine/Nolan >and on two different AGV's I've been able to do this installation without >doing any cutting to the liner, padding, or foam shell. Juan's done the same >w/ the helmets he has. Shoei RF200's >I'm not sure about what kind of noise and wind resistance they cause, the PC >offers pretty good protection. My wife wears hers while riding her Yamaha Maxim, and she has never complained about noise or poor aerodynamics with or without a windshield. >The Chatterbox has a plug on the back to plug in a walkman or other music >source. In my experience this has been completely useless. Even w/ the >volume up all the way it can be barely heard with the bike standing still. >I even tried plugging in a fairly high power stereo system into the thing >and even that wasn't very good. I tried mine (again) after Cory told me this because I have used a Walkman succesfully with my Chatterbox. Note: the Chatterbox is _not_ an amplifier. It acts merely as pass-through to the speakers (with voice override). If you plug the C'box to the "out" jack on your stereo it will _not_ work. If you plug it into the earphone jack, then you will have as much power as your stereo can provide. In fact, you can listen to music with the C'box turned off. >The RKA stuff is beautiful, but I can't shell out that kind of $$$$$$! For my >use the Chatterbox has been pretty good. Amen. YMMV Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alexander D. Gray" To: "'PC 800 mailing list'" Subject: New Member, let's ride!!! Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:33:40 -0700 Hello everyone, my name is Alexander D. Gray and I live in Flagstaff, = Arizona. My e-mail address is smupony@infomagic.com and smupony@aol.com I ride a 95 PC800 (New) that I bought in Boca Raton, Florida in April = 95. I just moved up here to the wonderful West. I love it up here in = the mountains, my rides here are ten times better than the ones down in = Florida. To be honest with you guy I ran out of places to ride in = Florida in a matter of months. I did the rides to Key West, Daytona, = Naples, Tampa, Orlando and even around Lake Okeechobee. I've only = really taken two rides around here but they blew all of those in Florida = away! I've been to the Grand Canyon, and have gone "down the Canyon" to = Sedona and Cottonwood. I've been to Jerome but not on the bike and = that's going to be a nice weekend ride. Well I'm looking for someone to ride with around here so if anyone lives = within 50 miles I would love to plan a trip. I'm looking forward to = riding to California and seeing the great highway that our bikes were = named after. If anyone is planning a long ride that way within the next = few months or this summer please keep me in mind. I would also like to = meet up with some of you for weekend rides to Phoenix, Tuscon, Las = Vegas, Page or any other place you know around here. I'm new to the west so I'm open for suggestions. I'm originally from = Dallas, Texas and I spent two years in South Florida. Now I'm in God's = country "The West". I'm ready to explore! Please write soon! your friend, Alexander (swm, 30,athletic) Flagstaff, Arizona 95 PC800 smupony@infomagic.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alexander D. Gray" To: "'PC 800 mailing list'" Subject: Cruise Control Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:44:56 -0700 Hello everyone, does anyone know where I can find a cruise control for our bike? do they make one? Thanks, Alexander smupony@infomagic.com Flagstaff, Arizona ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:07:24 -0500 From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Picked it up Sunday Hi, Folks, On Sunday I picked up the PC800 bought from a guy in Kansas City. He got it to central Ohio where a buddy and I picked it up. I feel VERY lucky to have found this bike. It is an '89 with 3,978 miles on it, and the body looks virtually perfect. There are a couple of spots on the wheels, which I have heard can be a problem (any suggestions?) but other than that, it is beautiful. I want to thank the group for the wealth of information picked up through this list. It was a tremendous help. Now I just have to stay patient for Spring....nice trick. Alan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Windshield & Seat Date: 13 Feb 96 17:10:13 GMT Hello! I'm a new subscriber to this list and I wanted to let you know that I think this is great.:-) I am somewhat isolated here in Juneau (Alaska) and this gives me an opportunity to communicate with people that have the same bike as me and it also gives me good information on the PC800. I have been contemplating installing a Rifle windshield on my PC and was looking for some feedback on it. Also how does the Corbin seat compare to the stock seat? I've heard some complaints about Corbin seats being too hard. Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us 1994 Honda PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alexander D. Gray" To: "'PC 800 mailing list'" Subject: Spots on Mags Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:22:41 -0700 Hello everyone can anyone help me to get these strange "water spot = looking" things off of my mags? I've tried just about everything and = they won't come off.=20 Anyone have any suggestions? write to smupony@infomagic.com Thanks, Alexander Flagstaff, Arizona ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us AKMAIL1.Alaska To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Test Message Date: 13 Feb 96 20:21:15 GMT This is a test message. Apparently the message I sent out earlier this morning did not work so I'm trying it again. Somebody out there let me know if they received this...thanx. Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us 1994 PC 800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 13 Feb 96 20:34:01 EST From: Steve Schibuola <73414.466@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: New Member, let's ride!!! Hi, Alexander, and welcome aboard! I live in Laguna Beach, California (part of my daily commute includes "the great highway that our bikes were named after" - yeah, it's rough out here in the West!). Two other members of the list (Harrison Spain and Johan Lai) are nearby. We've been on one group-ride to Palomar already, and are going on another one this Saturday into the San Gabriel Mountains. When you plan to come out to the coast, post to the list and I'm sure we'll be able to hook up for a ride! I'm also thinking of touring Arizona, maybe this spring, so I'll send you a message and maybe we can hook up and see some of the wonderful roads you've managed to discover around Flagstaff (I'm sure there are plenty!) Steve. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:12:44 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) Subject: Works Performance shocks Well, I got the Works shocks in the mail today, about a week earlier than I had expected. They have a notation on the invoice that they're designed for loads in the range of 310 to 400 lbs, just about right if it's correct. The quality seems excellent, the pieces all appearing well finished. They're charged with nitrogen, but even though the valves appear to be Shrader valves, they warn about not attempting to fill them yourself without the proper equipment. An additional note in the instructions call for changing fluid and recharging the shocks about every 15,000 miles or so. Does anyone have any experience as to the validity of that recommendation? What happens if you go substantially longer? I remember reading that someone had these shocks on their PC and really like the increased control. Any comments at this point would be appreciated. Thanks! (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:26:08 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:40:50 +0000 From: Dave Gross To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: I want a windshield ok gang... Honda want $289 for a windshile for a 90 PC. (I have an '89) but want a bigger sheild, and I'm not sure I like the cosmetic look of the Rifle ($189), though ALL of you love them anyway...... SOOO...any of you who have a 90 or newer and put a bigger windshield on AND has the old one left hanging around....I want one! AND...Steve got to ride my 89 with the ML2's....BIG difference according to him...May have to convince him to try the ML2/Battleaxe combo tho... -- Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog {WOOF} "Ain't nuthin but the dog in me..." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Works Performance shocks From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 13 Feb 1996 23:10:39 -0600 Lines: 13 >>>>> "RN" == Ray Nielsen writes: RN> I remember reading that someone had these shocks on their PC and really RN> like the increased control. Kent has them on his bike, but it seems Kent has left us (the list, not the race). His comments and write-up are there in the archives. Somewhere. I'm actually working on a real-live web interface to the archives, including searches, a threaded index and some form of interface to the list subscription/unsubscription commands. One of these days I'll finish it. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:36:40 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Kent is gone? Where did Kent go? I hope it isn't permenant. Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711 OR my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 14 Feb 96 09:14:51 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Not an HSTA member? Join with us! Thanks to a dozen or so of you folks who have recently joined the Honda Sport Touring Association! I look forward to meeting each of you in person "on the road!" For the rest of you...if you're not a member of the Honda Sport Touring Association, I'd like to send you an information brochure/membership application! We have close to 2,000 members and more than 100 Pacific Coast owners within our ranks! We plan to have a meeting of PC owners at STAR '96, our 14th national rally, to be held June 23-27, 1996 at Canaan Valley Resort, Davis, West Virginia. I hope to see you there! So...send me your snail-mail address and I'll fill up your mail box!! I have a 1990 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast with 62,000 trouble-free miles. It runs and looks almost like new! In closing, please consider joining the Honda Sport Touring Association. We're going places...crank up that PC and ride along with us! ************************************************** DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director Honda Sport Touring Association HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA (Life) Member # 180901 Compuserve 71430,340 1990 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 "Life is short...I think I'll go ridiing!" ************************************************* ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:24:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: PC800 Subject: Re: I want a windshield (fwd) Dave, decided to forward this to list in case you're not interested. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:20:45 -0800 (PST) From: Richard A. Hardy To: Dave Gross Subject: Re: I want a windshield Dave, I have a stock '90 windshield. Had it on about a week, before I replaced it with the Hondaline tall shield. It's been in the box that the tall shield came in. You can have it for $50 plus shipping. Where are you? I'm in San Diego. My home phone is: 619-452-8634. I'm at work now - 619-452-8634. Richard Hardy ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LAYDELORESS@CRF.CUIS.EDU 14 Feb 1996 11:25:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:25:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [PC800] Newbie To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Hi, Just a few lines to say hello, I don't yet own a PC800, currently riding an '82 Honda GL 1100, planning to upgrade and seriously considering a PC800. I'm into long distance touring and like the GL's rock steady trajectory when passsed by a semi on the interstate. On the other hand, I'd like a lttle more response (flickability) on the back roads. I did test drive a used PC last year but it wasn't running right so I couldn't tell much. Would appreciate any comments on the relative riding qualities of the PC vs. the GW. Also interested in any low mileage used PCs that may be for sale. Planning on attending bike week in Daytona riding down and camping out if weather permits. Steve DeLorey St. Louis MO. LAYDELORESS@CRF.CUIS.EDU ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us AKMAIL1.Alaska To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Test Message Date: 14 Feb 96 20:45:33 GMT Okay, one more time! This is just a test message to see if I can get this darn thing to work. I'm receiving messages okay, just having trouble sending one out...just bear with me until I get this figured out...thanks. Jo Ruby Juneau, Alaska Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us 1994 Honda PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 14 Feb 96 19:23:34 EST From: "Cory S. Estes" <103342.3616@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Re: PC800 Test Message Sure wish this person would quit testing and get on with it. Cory From owner-pc800-outgoing@hpc.uh.edu Wed Feb 14 18:53:31 1996 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:53:04 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: PC800 Test Message At 07:23 PM 2/14/96 EST, you wrote: >Sure wish this person would quit testing and get on with it. Now Cory, be nice. Her name is Josephine "Jo" Ruby, and she owns a '94 PC. She lives in Juneau : - ). She has been trying to get the mail system she is using to talk to the list owner system, so far with no luck. I've been in touch with her and will ask her if she would like me to forward messages to the list. Apparently she has no problems reading the list messages. I'll keep you guys posted. Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 14 Feb 96 19:54:22 EST From: Russell Jackson <73370.1672@compuserve.com> To: pc800 Subject: Re: Splitfires/Headlamp >I was about to buy a set for my car a few months ago and the guy at the >counter warned me that the Splitfires burn a lot hotter than normal plugs. >He said some aluminum heads might not be able to handle it. I figure if >my car can't handle it (89 Ford Probe), I dare not put it into Cassandra >(my PC). How long have you had the plugs Rusty? About four months now. I ride the bike daily and haven't had any problems. Rusty ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:14:01 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: jmorriso@nosc.mil (Jeffrey G. Morrison) Subject: Windshield effect on Dashboard Meltdown In reading the PC800 web-site, I saw reference to an undesirable side-effect of the optional (tall) Honda Windshield in that it causes damage to the dashboard. This caught my attention as I had noticed some strange marks on my windshield since moving to San Diego this past summer, and believe I may be experiencing the problem. I have a new stock windshield (never saw the road & in the box though it was originally mounted on the bike) for the '89 PC800 and the "tall" windshield which is still in great shape. I hate to replace them unnecessarily. Therefore I ask the following: What the web site doesn't say if in fact changing the windshield really stops the problem. Has this problem been verified & the windshield shown to be the cause? Will this problem get worse regardless of the windshield? Has anyone surveyed the aftermarket products to see which windshields cause this "magnifying glass" effect & which prevent it? What other solutions have been tried for this problem? Has anyone found another solution? (I'm considering a small "sock" for the windshield or just getting a cheap / small dust cover for the bike). Just how expensive / difficult is it to repair the damage? Thanks in advance for any info. Hope this hasn't been covered extensively prior to my subscribing. BTW, I would be happy to send the stock windshield (for reasonable compenstation) to a good home. It is way to short for me. Thanks also for all the tips on how to tow the PC800 on a trailer - I'd suggest putting that kind of info out on the Web site as a FAQ. **************************************************************************** The Following is current as of 1 December 1995: Jeffrey G. Morrison, Ph.D. Naval Command, Control and Ocean Survelliance Center RDT&E Division, Code 44210 53560 Hull Street San Diego, CA 92152-5001 Phone: (619) 553-9070 DEFTT Lab: (619) 553-7998 Fax: (619) 553-9229 E-Mail: jmorriso@nosc.mil HOME: 3675 Alexia Place San Diego, CA 92116-2236 (619) 280-8098 NOTE: Binary files are encoded with UUENCODE on a Macintosh computer by default. Use UUDECODE to restore. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:10:21 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Windshield effect on Dashboard Meltdown At 05:14 PM 2/14/96 -0800, you wrote: >What the web site doesn't say if in fact changing the windshield really >stops the problem. Has this problem been verified & the windshield shown >to be the cause? Will this problem get worse regardless of the windshield? As far as I can tell, it would take some pretty sophisticated statistics to prove that the tall windshield is harmless. I'll go out on a limb and say that ~80% of the people that have installed the tall Hondaline windshield have had some sort of sun damage on the dash. If I remember correctly, Honda has not been particularly helpful with this problem. >Has anyone surveyed the aftermarket products to see which windshields cause >this "magnifying glass" effect & which prevent it? I know of no other windshield that causes this. Then again, folks in the sun-drenched states might have more info on this. >What other solutions have been tried for this problem? Has anyone found >another solution? (I'm considering a small "sock" for the windshield or >just getting a cheap / small dust cover for the bike). The "sock" has been tried by others on this group, with good results. I think it was just an old cotton t-shirt. >Just how expensive / difficult is it to repair the damage? Repair? I think the only option is to either replace or live with it. : - ( If you do need a tall winshield, give Rifle a try. >Thanks in advance for any info. Hope this hasn't been covered extensively >prior to my subscribing. It has, but I don't mind. We should really have a FAQ section on this but the kind souls that donate their time and resources to upkeep the list and web page are doing plenty as it is (thanks again, Neill and Jason!) I would like to help in this respect, if someone would care to point me in the right direction. Hope I was able to help. Ride safe. Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- 14 Feb 1996 18:38:37 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:35:47 -0800 From: _spain@edsug.com (Harrison Spain) Subject: February 17th ride to San Gabriel Mountains To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Just a reminder that our ride is THIS SATURDAY! :-) I just got my Priority lights and hope to have 'em installed for the ride :-). Look forward to seeing everyone on Saturday! Harrison >OK, here we go! Our ride is *on* for the 17th (that's a Saturday)! For >those who want some breakfast, we will be meeting at Carrows in Fountain >Valley at 9:00AM. This restaurant is located just south (toward the beach) >off of the 405 on Magnolia across from the Family Fun Center (big ferris >wheel). > >Dave and I will meet everyone at the restaurant for breakfast (look for the >white PC800) ;-). If you want to skip breakfast, just meet us in the >parking lot at 10:00AM. > >Our trip will take us up the 405 north to the 605 north to the 210 east and >then off on San Gabriel Canyon road (where the fun begins). > >This road has mucho twisties but we plan to ride safely and conservatively >:-). We expect to run into a bit of snow on the sides but if the roads get >bad, we will just loop back :-). There are a few spots to stop along the >way for great views of the dam and canyon. > >Plan to pack a lunch and camera (no restaurants at the top of this >beastie). There are also no 'facilities' up there so we may want to stop >at a gas station before we head up. We hope to check out the Crystal Lake >road and either find a nice spot up there to eat lunch or find a spot at >the end of the canyon. > >It will be a bit chilly (for those not in California, cold to us is >anything below about 60 degrees) so pack some warmies in your trunk but >leave some space to pack some snow back to Orange County in your built-in >cooler trunk! > >We hope to see lot's of folks on this one so bring your friends (we don't >mind if they are stuck with less than a PC800)! Any questions can be >directed to the list or my E-Mail (spain@edsug.com). > >Harrison Spain ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800'" Subject: Sunny Seattle Ride invite this Saturday Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:31:38 -0800 Calling all Seattle area riders! Now that the flood waters are receding and the sun is out (60's!!!!) I think we need to go for a ride. When: Saturday Feb 17. 10am. Breakfast eaters at 9am Where: Brown Bag Cafe, 116th St. Exit on I-405 north of Kirkland Where should we go?: Good question. Snohomish, Cascade foothills, ??? It will be a group think. Let me know if you'd like to join us. -Bryce and Leanne ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 07:51:52 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: LAYDELORESS@CRF.CUIS.EDU Cc: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Reply to: [PC800] Newbie ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 02/15/96 07:52 ## Honda will have demo rides. Get there early and sign up at the Honda area outside the track. I hadn't previously heard of a bad running PC. Must have been abused. I own 2, a '90 (my second) with 99k and a '95 with 3k. You'll love it, believe me. You will be tempted to trade on the spot. My wife and I ride all over the country 2up. It's comfortable, reliable and, most importantly, FUN. Not a thrill a minute like my CBR1000F was but my heart is too old for those constant thrills. The PC is the most versatile and practical bike in the world. Good luck. The '96 red/black is a fantastic color. Figure dealer cost to be 83% of retail. Somebody on the list just bought a used '89 for just under $4k. A new '89 in '92 could have been had for $4-4.5k. I bought my current '90 in 92 for $5.2k new. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: LAYDELORESS@CRF.CUIS.EDU:dg-smtp Date: ## 02/14/96 11:25 ## Hi, Just a few lines to say hello, I don't yet own a PC800, currently riding an '82 Honda GL 1100, planning to upgrade and seriously considering a PC800. I'm into long distance touring and like the GL's rock steady trajectory when passsed by a semi on the interstate. On the other hand, I'd like a lttle more response (flickability) on the back roads. I did test drive a used PC last year but it wasn't running right so I couldn't tell much. Would appreciate any comments on the relative riding qualities of the PC vs. the GW. Also interested in any low mileage used PCs that may be for sale. Planning on attending bike week in Daytona riding down and camping out if weather permits. Steve DeLorey ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 15 Feb 96 08:58:12 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Dash melt-down To those PC800 owners discussing dash meltdown, I offer the following solution... I have meltdown marks on the dash of my '90 PC...have had them for a long time. I don't remember exactly when they occurred, but think that it was shortly after I took delivery. I am surprised that other bikes and/or windshield combinations have not experienced a similar problem. However, there is a way to prevent it...install Saeng Stealth windshield edging! In addition to providing a slightly larger "envelope," that problem will NEVER occur after the edging is installed! If I was to buy a new PC today, I would transfer the Saeng edging to the new bike before I left the shop! Be real careful out there! ******************************************* DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA Life Member # 180901 71430.340@Compuserve.Com "Life is short...I think I'll go riding!" ****************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:03:11 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: [PC800] Newbie Hi Steve, and welcome. I can't comment on the PC800 vs the GL1100, since I've not spent much time on a GL1100. However, I've put real close to 100,000 on my GL1000; so, there may be some useful comparisons for your purpose. As a second caveat, it is useful to understand that I almost never carry a passenger (I taught the wife to ride about 20 years ago, and she's had her own bike since then). As far as I am concerned, the PC800 is a far superior machine to the GL in terms of handling, comfort, economy and appearance. The engine isn't quite as smooth, but it's smooth enough. It doesn't have quite the acceleration of the GL1000 (the '76 was a bit of a hotrod in terms of power-to-weight when compared to later four-cylinder GLs), but the acceleration is more than adequate for passing. And the PC is much more stable at higher speeds (85+). I've ridden both machines coast-to-coast several times, and since getting the PC, I almost never ride the GL any more. At the end of a long day, I'm much less tired and achy with the PC (about the only time I ride the GL is if I've got a lot of stuff to haul and I need to pull a trailer). In short, I find the PC800 to be the best one-up touring machine I've ever owned or ridden. Many of the folks on this list carry passengers, so they will have to comment on its two-up capabilities. JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:42:28 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: New member This is an intro by proxy. Jo Ruby is having problems sending messages to the list but she can receive just fine. She rides in Juneau, Alaska on her '94 PC. Please give her a warm PC800 welcome! >From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us > AKMAIL1.Alaska >To: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu >Subject: Forwarding Messages >Date: 15 Feb 96 16:52:08 GMT >Juan said: > >Looks like it did not work. I'd be willing to forward messages to > >the listserv for you if you can't find a solution to your problem. > >As far as I can tell you have no trouble receiving the list messages, > >correct? >Jo said: > Great! :-) Tell Cory sorry, didn't mean to annoy him. I'll just send > my messages to you and you can post them for me. I am receiving the > messages just fine, it's sending them out that screws me up. > > As to the road conditions on the ALCAN--the road up from Haines to > Whitehorse is in good condition--as is the road from Whitehorse to > Skagway--that's usually the route I take. I understand that there was > road construction on the highway as you head east from Whitehorse. I > belong to a local motorcycle club "Northstar Riders," and our next > meeting is Tuesday. I will ask around and see if I can get the scoop > on the road conditions. > > Once again thanks for all your help--hope to be hearing from you soon. > > Jo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 14:00:40 EST From: stevea@uscsumter.uscsu.sc.edu (Steve Anderson) To: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com>, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Dash melt-down Another less elegant and less expensive approach to preventing dash meltdown is to slip an undershirt over the wind shield when it is parked in the sun. It is the flared edge of the tall wind shield which acts like a magnifying glass... which is why the saeng edging works fine. Dana... Does the saeng edging improve/hinder performance and/or buffeting when calm?... when windy? Steve Anderson Sumter SC ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 14:09:03 EST From: stevea@uscsumter.uscsu.sc.edu (Steve Anderson) To: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Windshield effect on Dashboard Meltdown I went to my Honda dealer (Sumter SC) and raised heck regarding the dash meltdown three years ago. They aggreed with me and replaced the whold dash plastic, but did not solve the potential for a new meltdown... thus the undershirt solution offered earlier. They also said that "next time was on me" and to be careful not to park in the sun... (RIGHT!) Call the 800 number for customer service (from dealer) and make a stink! It may eventually pay off if enough do it! Steve Anderson Stevea@sc.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:31:38 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Windshield effect on Dashboard Meltdown Steve, thank you for the tip. Fortunately, I never had the problem. I had one season with the stock shield, then I switched to the +2" version of Rifle's shield. I think Honda is trying to make us think that There is no way their R&D department could've made a mistake in the design of the tall windshield. Most un-Honda like. At 02:09 PM 2/15/96 EST, you wrote: > I went to my Honda dealer (Sumter SC) and raised heck > regarding the dash meltdown three years ago. They aggreed > with me and replaced the whold dash plastic, but did not > solve the potential for a new meltdown... thus the > undershirt solution offered earlier. > > They also said that "next time was on me" and to be careful > not to park in the sun... (RIGHT!) > > Call the 800 number for customer service (from dealer) and > make a stink! It may eventually pay off if enough do it! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'PC 800 mailing list'" , "'Alexander D. Gray'" Subject: RE: Cruise Control Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:41:02 -0800 Don't think I saw any replies on this so I'll summarize what's been said in the past. You have about two choices and both with take a few modifications. There's the BMW wrist wrest with Kent is using. See the webpage for a picture and the archives for his installation instructions. There was some maching required. The other is the vetter throttle lock ($15-20). I've seen metal and plastic varations. The unit will need some modification to work. Most people have cut the tab along it's lower edge and used a small screw or zip tie to fasten it to the plastic trim next to the right hand grip. This tab I'm referring to is what keeps the throttle lock from rotating with the hand grip. If you have a dremmel tool you could leave this tab on and cut a small groove in the handlebar trim and put the throttle lock tab through this. I'm being brief and there are more detailed instructions in the archives from probably a year+ ago. Email me direct if you want more clarification. If you look at the parts it will make more sense. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- >---------- >From: Alexander D. Gray[SMTP:smupony@infomagic.com] >Sent: Monday, February 12, 1996 9:44 PM >To: 'PC 800 mailing list' >Subject: Cruise Control > >Hello everyone, does anyone know where I can find a cruise control for our >bike? do they make one? > >Thanks, >Alexander >smupony@infomagic.com >Flagstaff, Arizona > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:30:24 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: (Bryce_Ulrich)_bryceu@microsoft.com Cc: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Reply to: Sunny Seattle Ride invite this Saturday ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 02/15/96 18:31 ## Enjoy. I expect to be pushing my two-wheeler, the snowblower, if the forecast is correct. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: (Bryce Ulrich) bryceu@microsoft.com:dg-smtp Date: ## 02/14/96 19:31 ## Calling all Seattle area riders! Now that the flood waters are receding and the sun is out (60's!!!!) I think we need to go for a ride. When: Saturday Feb 17. 10am. Breakfast eaters at 9am Where: Brown Bag Cafe, 116th St. Exit on I-405 north of Kirkland Where should we go?: Good question. Snohomish, Cascade foothills, ??? It will be a group think. Let me know if you'd like to join us. -Bryce and Leanne ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHO@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:45:14 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Welcome Jo Ruby Welcome to the list! I visited Alaska for the first time last August, including spending a few days in Juneau with my friend who works for the Dept. of Revenue. I think all of us "outsiders" have marveled at Juan and Cory riding in a place with such a short season. But I can't believe you ride in Juneau! Isn't it frustrating? I was only there for three days, but I easily saw the four dead ends north and south of Juneau and Douglas and most of the roads in between. I think in Juneau I'd rather have a boat! Beautiful area, though...nice sights to see while you ride those familiar roads... :) Jeff Odell 15 Feb 1996 19:12:38 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:09:46 -0800 From: _spain@edsug.com (Harrison Spain) Subject: Priority Plus Lights To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I just finished installing the Priority Plus lighting system on my PC800 :-). Here is the scoop: 1) You have to remove the back tail lights. This is real easy if you have not done it before. Just open the trunk, and you will see four large hex screws. You may think these hold in the trunk somehow but all they do is keep the tail light assembly in place. Remove only the middle two. The outside two hold on the turn signal assemblies and you don't have to mess with these to install the Priority Plus system. 2) You may want to place a towel or something below the assembly since it will only be held on by the wires (some of which you will be cutting) so a word to the wise :-) .... these puppies are expensive! 3) The Priority Plus system runs about $80 and consists of a 3" x 4" x 3/4" black plastic box with four wires coming out one side and three coming out the other. 4) I mounted the box (it has some foam and adhesive already on one side of the box) inside of the trunk on the left side. You will have to drill a couple of holes in the trunk to feed the wires. One hole on the bottom and one hole on the top. The Priority Plus box sticks to the inside surface and the wires come straight back through the two holes you drilled. 5) All that is left is to wire everything correctly :-). Be careful! The brown wire looks an awful lot like the black wire and don't mix up the right and left turn signals! 6) I didn't use the connectors they provide. I preferred a solid connection by baring the wire, twisting the two together and then using some electrical tape (I didn't go overboard and use solder). 7) You will find that not all the wires reach. My solution was to run some electrical cord wire along the frame with tie-wraps to the right turn signal. 8) The green wire on both the right and left turn signals is the ground wire. In other words, the one you want to cut is the *other* one :-). 9) Once you have the four turn signal wires complete, you can wire up the three 'difficult' wires. I trimmed all the wires to length after I had everything pretty much done but you can trim them to length right away; it will be fine. 10) The three 'difficult' wires can be located on the wire harness to the left. The first one is the GREEN/YELLOW wire, the second is the BROWN wire, and the final ground is GREEN. I just chopped these in half and wired in a splice that made a solid connection. I used the extra wire (after trimming the wires to length) for the splice. SUMMARY: It works fantastic! Those of you going on the San Gabriel ride will get a long running demo ;-). It is very eye catching and should do the trick. When you turn on your lights, the two rear turn signals come on halfway. This alone is very eye catching. If you hit the brake light (either front or rear), the turn signals flash rapidly for 1.5 seconds while the brake lights come on as expected. When you turn on a turn signal, the blinking feature is disabled. I'm very illegal unfortunately but willing to risk the $10 fine. When it comes to legal vs safe, I have to go with illegal (sorry). I wish the state of California were as concerned about folks rear ending me as they are in protecting my noodle with a helmet! Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:01:45 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Horns/Shield edging I saw the photo on the web page of the air horns. That seems a little too much work for me. I am picking up a new 95 in a few days. I read an article a while ago about a guy who put a BMW horn set on his KLR650. Has anyone tried this? Or does anyone have any other ideas? Also how good is the windshield edging on the standard size fairing? Any riders in Wy or north CO? Chris Laramie, WY ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:55:55 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Agree with JT On 2/14/96 Steve DeLorey wanted some feedback on the PC vs. the GL1100. JT posted back to Steve and shared his own comparison of his GL1000 v. his PC. Having done some looong touring on my PC, I wanted to chime in and say that I feel JT's assessment of the PC as one of the best one-up touring machines on the market is right on. My '94 eats up the Inter-bore and asks for more. I've done 500 in a day with no problem. If the trip is spiced up with side highways, canyon-carving is comfy-fun. But the real reason why I wanted to post back was to fill in the blanks where JT left off, since he usually solos. My wife Nan and I have been two-upping on the PC ever since I got it new in early '94. The PC has great balance and road-feel; I don't even notice any difference when Nan's on back. Since we live in the NW, we do face the challenge of mountain climbing on occasion. We always marvel at how easily we can pull mountain passes--usually in 5th; rarely we have to go to 4th. Gas mileage doesn't change for me whether I'm solo or we're 2-up; we're usually 45-50 mpg depending upon terrain. In short--a great bike. Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Portland, OR timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:55:56 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: motolist@onpmomma.isc-br.com Subject: There's Sales--and there's Service... A while ago I posted a shot at a local large Honda dealership 'cause the salesman didn't see me as a sale--so he didn't give me the time of day. Today I was going to ride off into the sunshine when I found a flat tire impeding my efforts--slow leak from a staple stuck in the rear tire. Pumped it up and roared off to that selfsame dealer 'cause it was less than 5 miles away. The service dept manager took it into the shop immediately, pulled the staple, and plugged the hole. And--to top it off--he refused payment for the job! I felt bad for a bit 'cause I had badmouthed them until I remembered: There's Sales...and then there's Service. Not the first shop I had encountered where Service was where you got good service and Sales was where you got ______(you fill in the blanks). When will they learn that it's not two mutually exclusive concepts? Keep a Good Contact Patch, Tim Portland, OR timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:14:55 -0500 To: jteekell@alumni.uark.edu, pc800@hpc.uh.edu, hsta@listproc.bgsu.edu Subject: Jay Jay I feel terrible. I am the one who started the damn comm thread. I know it wasn't the content, just the responses. I still feel bad that your leaving. I guess cause I have to admit that the list can be as fierce as real life. I hope you will drop by and check up on us sometime or perhaps drop us a note. Sincerely sorry to see anyone leave Rick Fisher Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711/ OR my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Rick Fisher Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat & some kind of Fish? $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:32:42 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 00:22:58 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: New member Howdy to Jo! Stay warm! -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 16 Feb 96 07:49:04 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Priority Plus Lights ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 02/16/96 07:49 ## Inflation, I paid $50 for mine but that's back in '90. I installed mine on the outside of the trunk and didn't have to remove anything. Mine is stuck on the forward left side of the trunk. There is a connector bracket there, one of which goes to the rear lights. I tapped in on the trunk side of the connector so the module comes with the trunk when I remove it to remove my Works shocks when I send them in for their annual service. I found that the sticky tape provided in the old days didn't hold well so I used two 4" strips of stick-on velcro. Never had another problem of it unintentionally coming loose. I believe if you disconnect the brown wire the lights work normally. Mine injects a lot of noise into my J&M intercom. I haven't decided if I will install one on my new PC. I have an aversion to drilling holes in the trunk. Roger CEO document contents: I just finished installing the Priority Plus lighting system on my PC800 :-). Here is the scoop: 1) You have to remove the back tail lights. This is real easy if you have not done it before. Just open the trunk, and you will see four large hex screws. You may think these hold in the trunk somehow but all they do is keep the tail light assembly in place. Remove only the middle two. The outside two hold on the turn signal assemblies and you don't have to mess with these to install the Priority Plus system. 2) You may want to place a towel or something below the assembly since it will only be held on by the wires (some of which you will be cutting) so a word to the wise :-) .... these puppies are expensive! 3) The Priority Plus system runs about $80 and consists of a 3" x 4" x 3/4" black plastic box with four wires coming out one side and three coming out the other. 4) I mounted the box (it has some foam and adhesive already on one side of the box) inside of the trunk on the left side. You will have to drill a couple of holes in the trunk to feed the wires. One hole on the bottom and one hole on the top. The Priority Plus box sticks to the inside surface and the wires come straight back through the two holes you drilled. 5) All that is left is to wire everything correctly :-). Be careful! The brown wire looks an awful lot like the black wire and don't mix up the right and left turn signals! 6) I didn't use the connectors they provide. I preferred a solid connection by baring the wire, twisting the two together and then using some electrical tape (I didn't go overboard and use solder). 7) You will find that not all the wires reach. My solution was to run some electrical cord wire along the frame with tie-wraps to the right turn signal. 8) The green wire on both the right and left turn signals is the ground wire. In other words, the one you want to cut is the *other* one :-). 9) Once you have the four turn signal wires complete, you can wire up the three 'difficult' wires. I trimmed all the wires to length after I had everything pretty much done but you can trim them to length right away; it will be fine. 10) The three 'difficult' wires can be located on the wire harness to the left. The first one is the GREEN/YELLOW wire, the second is the BROWN wire, and the final ground is GREEN. I just chopped these in half and wired in a splice that made a solid connection. I used the extra wire (after trimming the wires to length) for the splice. SUMMARY: It works fantastic! Those of you going on the San Gabriel ride will get a long running demo ;-). It is very eye catching and should do the trick. When you turn on your lights, the two rear turn signals come on halfway. This alone is very eye catching. If you hit the brake light (either front or rear), the turn signals flash rapidly for 1.5 seconds while the brake lights come on as expected. When you turn on a turn signal, the blinking feature is disabled. I'm very illegal unfortunately but willing to risk the $10 fine. When it comes to legal vs safe, I have to go with illegal (sorry). I wish the state of California were as concerned about folks rear ending me as they are in protecting my noodle with a helmet! Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:14:40 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: Timmacy@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, motolist@onpmomma.isc-br.com Subject: Re: There's Sales--and there's Service... Tim, Just wanted to state that I've noticed the same phenomenon re sales and service departments. They sometimes act as adversaries and forget that they're part of the same team. Prior to purchasing my PC, I had servicing on my Silver Wing done at a local Honda dealer, and was well satisfied, so I first looked at the PCs there. However, I ended up buying the same '90 at a dealer 20 miles away for $500 less, and returned to my first dealer for servicing - no problem there, but the svc mgr and I talked about what I had done. He would have done the same, but I was a little surprised to hear him talk of his sales department as one would of a competitor, and not part of his company at all. Same thing with my car. I was well satisfied with the service department, so when I was ready for another car, I went to their sales department. It was like night and day! I had three salesment within twenty minutes - all infighting among theirselves, and they all had "snake oil" written all over them. I left - fast! Some of these dealers obviously stay in business in spite of themselves, and not because of any business smarts. Richard Hardy, San Diego ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Alexander D. Gray" To: "'PC 800 mailing list'" Subject: Ride to Jerome Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:38:25 -0700 Hello everyone. Well I had the day off today so I decided to get off of = my ass and in front of the computer and go for a small ride to Jerome = (Flagstaff to Jerome is about 60 miles). Once again it was a wonderful = day in the "Northland" and the "Valley" was pretty nice too. Anyway I = started out by riding down Oak Creek Canyon, that's a great ride in = itself because you go from 7,000 feet down to 5,000 in just three short = miles of curving highway, actually you can look down from your beginning = at 7,000 feet and see the road directly below you so actually you didn't = travel but maybe a half a mile. >From there I traveled down (south) the canyon past Slide Rock National = Park and every inch of this ride is breathtaking, all the peaks, red = rocks and the wildlife that you can see traveling down this road is = amazing. I saw a deer, coyote, skunk (unfortunetly he wasn't walking) = and a heard of Elk. The farther you get down the less wildlife you see = because of the desert terrain. As you near Sedona you begin to see = hundreds of cars on the side of the road, most are Foreign tourist that = love this part of the country. I stopped at the "overlook" that is just = outside of Sedona to stretch my legs. Of course a few of these tourist = came over to me and complimented me on my bike. I believe these guys = were from Germany. just to the right of where I stopped there is this = plaque that tells you about the small hicking trail that leads into the = mountains. On the plaque it stated how this trail was dedicated to some = old dude that died in the 1910's, and it said that he died at the hands = of a Grizzly Bear. So one of the first things the Germans asked me was = "Do Grizzly's still live around here?" I replied "Yes they do but you = don't have to worry about them, they don't like tourists!" I don't = really think any of them really understood me because they looked at me = like I was frpom Mars. One say that he and the others were thinking of = taking a hike up the trail for a few hours but they wanted to know if I = thought the trail was safe. I turned back and looked at the trail = leading away and all I could see was a bunch of women coming back from = the forest, so I said "You don't have to worry about the Bears out = there, just watch out for all the beavers". They didn't get that one = either. Well I figured I had my fun with the tourist so I hopped on my bike and = headed toward Jerome. The ride through Sedona is very pretty if you can = focus on the distant red rocks, but to me Sedona is a tourist trap, too = many shops, jeep rides and indians out with their jewelry. As I left = Sedona I did enjoy the 15 miles between Sedona and Cottonwood because = there is virtually nothing there, it's a nice curvy road for about 5 = miles and then it's a nice straight shot that you can see for another 5 = miles, this is where I like to punch the throttle and hit about 110 = miles per hour. But that's my limit, I'm too scared to go any faster. = I love the feel of the bike as it climbs from 65 to 120 in about 6 = seconds, the ride is very smooth and that sometimes worries me, I never = knew that riding that fast could feel so "normal" if you know what I = mean. As I near Cottonwood I have to slow down to about 25 because this town = is your typical small town where it wouldn't surprise me if the local = cop pulls you over just because he knows your from out of town. = Cottonwood is a small town but I was surprised in that it has a Walmart, = JCPenney's and of course McDonalds. But I knew this was the last = "civilized" stop before Jerome. After Cottonwood you begin your climb to this place they call Jerome, = the first time I saw this place I couldn't believe it existed. I = thought to myself "Why would anyone go through this much trouble to = build this place, everything is built on the side of the mountain, ever = house is hanging over, every street is being held up by railroad ties or = cemented rocks" As you work your way up the mountain your afraid to = look off to the side because of the fear you might fall off. But once = you get up to the top you have to pull over and stop and admire the = view, it's amazing. It's like your at the top of the world looking down = at everything. You see the valley below you and at a distance you can = see the jagged Red Rocks of Sedona, and beyond that you can see the San = Francisco Peaks of Flagastaff with their snow capped peaks. As you drive into town you get the feeling of isolation, it truly feels = like a ghost town and as you drive through the streets you come to = realize that it is. I would say that half the buildings are abandoned = and the other half should be. If it wasn't for the shops in the main = center of town, this town would be full of ghosts. I do have to say = that it's a nice place to walk around and look at the shops, they have = some very good antiques shops- but they're probably the original = furniture since this town is so old. On one of the corners there is this place called "Spirits" and boy is = this a "biker hang out", not our bikes but you know the "Harley Type". = I wouldn't go in there with my worst enemy, it looks pretty tough. And = from the looks of the guys in there they are not the Lawyers and Doctors = that like to play with there Harleys on the weekends. Just up from this bar you will see signs directing you to " A real ghost = town" well I fell for this one and drove up the worst road in America. = At the top you will see this old building from around the 1910's, you = have to walk through this building to get to the ghost town. I think = the charge is $4 per person, don't pay it if your expecting a real = "western ghost town" like I was. It's more like a junk yard of old fire = engines, cars and gas station stuff. Now don't get me wrong I like = looking at this kind of stuff as much as the next guy but I wanted a = western ghost town. I did find some things fasinating, like the old = "Bordelo" in this mining town. I mean I like the buildings, there from = the turn of the century and that I liked. =20 Over all I did like the ride up there, I would recommend just driving = through on your way to Prescott. The ride from Jerome to Prescott is = ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800'" Subject: Great MC thoughts... Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:48:32 -0800 and pleasant dreams. -bryceu ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: George.A.Catt@att.com[SMTP:George.A.Catt@att.com] Sent: Friday, February 16, 1996 7:51 AM To: Honda Sport Touring Association Subject: different Now for something completely different: Motorcycles, riding, leaning into the curve, wind in the face, hills, valleys, twisty-turny black top. Thrills, fun, sun, New tires, fresh oil, air cleaner serviced, bags packed and strapped on, ready to go. Vacation days, long days on the road, nights in the tent, sitting around the campfire. Engines ticking as they cool in the night air. Bacon sizzling, eggs frying, lots of coffee, jackets zipped, shields down, early morning dew, birds singing in the road-side trees.. Warm the tires, check the mirrors, no traffic, no cops, leeeeeaaaaann over through the first tight curves, pick up a little speed, keep it up for a couple hours (stop to get rid of the coffee!) through the best roads you can find. Stop for lunch at (fill in the blank), turn around and do it all some more. Kick lies and tell tires, check out the latest innovations on the little red number in the next parking space. Crawl into the sleeping bag with a smile, wake up the same way. Get up in the morning and do it all again, and again, and again. Explore new roads, explore new horizons, push the edge of your personal envelope. Break out. When the weather is just too bad, plan for the coming sun. When the snow is deep in driveway, dream about rides past. When your last ride was The BRRRR-Butt, remember that the next ride is The Sring Thaw! When the world hands you lemons... GO RIDE! George ################################################################ # George Catt - Aurora, IL # # Lucent Technologies - formerly AT&T Network Systems # # My comments are my own. If my bosses only knew... # ################################################################ # # # # gac@intgp1.att.com # -- Life is short -- # # Illinois State Co-Director - HSTA # GO RIDE! # # DoD 1463, AMA 407092, STOC 004, # # # HSTA 3942, HRCA 700802 # in memory of # # Silver '91 ST1100-1, 70K and counting# Derek Catt # # '87 VFR 700, 15K and counting # 2-7-70 5-27-94 # # '86 Nighthawk S, 21K and for sale # # # # # ################################################################ # "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% # # how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in # # charge of our Attitudes." -Charles Swindoll # ################################################################ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 07:45:48 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Nice Postings Alexander and Bryce ..... Great stories. As I look out the window at the snow, something has to make me feel hopeful......those stories did. ............ Received one of *those* postcards yesterday. I called "John" to see what they'd give me for my '89 PC with 38,000 miles. He said $2900 to $3000 . I guess I'll wait and see if spring won't bring me a better price. ------------------------------------------------------ Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:47:05 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) Subject: Rear wheel rubbing I was reading the archives for October '95 recently and cam across someone concerned about something rubbing on the left edge of the rear tire on their '89 model. I've been quite involved in this problem with my 89 and can shed some light on the subject. The PC was originally intended for manufacture in Ohio, and was to be fitted with Dunlop K-177 tires. When manufacture was moved back to Japan (Hammamatsu plant) to avoid laying off Japanese workers, Dunlop of Japan K-555 tires were fitted. They're slightly wider, even though they claim the same size markings of 140/80-15. Honda recast the trunk liner for the 90 model PC, if you compare them you'll see an arced shaped "extension", visible when the trunk lid is open. There was a "hidden" warranty on this, but only if you bitched about it. The cure was replacement with a new rear tire, later series trunk liner AND a new, stiffer swing arm assembly. Mine was handled this way at about 12K miles. The swing arm looked the same, but weighed about 2 lbs more than the old. (My dealer let me do the parts swap as I used to work as motorcycle mechanic.) The K-177 is definitely narrower by about 1'4" and leaves about a matchbook's worth of space between the tire and the trunk liner. I later tried a Metzeler ML2 tire on the rear and had no problems, but that's with the above fixes in place. The clearance was about half that seen with the K-177s. While several people have mentioned liking the ML2s, I hated them; felt like I was "skating" all around and the things jolted me severely going over the tar separators on the freeways. I was running them at Metzeler's recommended pressures of 39 PSI front, and 49 PSI rear, as I weigh about 310. They lasted about 16K miles as opposed to about 19K miles for K-177s. The ML2s were like driving on banana skins in the rain -- the K-177s were much better than stock tires. Hope this helps a bit, although I know my opinion about tires will draw some ire. Comments: Authenticated sender is ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "John Palfery" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:44:17 +0000 Subject: test Reply-to: jpalfer@atw.fullfeed.com Priority: normal Ihave'nt been able to SEND messages to the list of late. I think I getall the messages but when I reply I don't see my replys on the list. What am I doing wrong ? I am sending this by copying the list address to my address book and sending a message direct. Shouldn't I be able to reply and see my message ? Did I miss some changes somewhere, I've been hibernating this winter. Please help -- Thanks everyone -- John ________________________________________________________ John Palfery jpalfer@mail.atw.fullfeed.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: DANCOTE@aol.com Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:50:15 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Washington Governor's Run May 4th & 5th Invitation to all local (and out of area) PC owners to join us for the ride. This annual event is put on by the local Gold Wing club. Last year drew over 1,500 registered entrants. (The parking lot is something to behold.) There are vendors, demonstrations, entertainment and some great prizes. (Grand prize is a new Gold Wing) Camping is available on Friday and Saturday, May 3rd & 4th, at the Kitsap County Fairgrounds. The Sunday ride is very well organized and the route which changes every year is scenic and well laid out. We usually have an eclectic group of 10-15 who meet for breakfast on Sunday morning then do the run. We'd love to add some additional PCs to the 2 89's already in the group. I'd be pleased to answer your questions, provide additional info, send out registration forms, etc. Come along for the ride. You won't be disappointed. Dan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 19:18:59 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) Subject: Wind guards & a luggage rack A while back I mentioned that I had minimized the wind up the pants PC characteristic with simple plastic devices which are easy to make. I've also added a homemade luggage rack, made of stainless steel rod which attaches to the Honda backrest very easily. I've also improved (I think) the Honda mudguard by adding another piece with rivets. I've taken pictures of these and hope they'll turn out well. Can anyone convert them to usable form for others on this mailing list? I'll be happy to send them to anyone who can perform this miracle; just send me a message at , and give me a mailing address. I expect to have them in a couple of days. If anyone is interested, my PC sports heated handgrips and a switch to turn on the cooling fan rather than waiting for the engine heat to rise. It's useful in city traffic, and might be useful if the thermostatic switch ever fails. I can send that information along to the mailing list if appropriate. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Rear wheel rubbing From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 17 Feb 1996 19:38:21 -0600 Lines: 15 >>>>> "RN" == Ray Nielsen writes: RN> I was reading the archives for October '95 recently and cam across RN> someone concerned about something rubbing on the left edge of the rear RN> tire on their '89 model. RN> The cure was replacement with a new rear tire, later series trunk liner RN> AND a new, stiffer swing arm assembly. Mine was handled this way at RN> about 12K miles. The swing arm looked the same, but weighed about 2 RN> lbs more than the old. So that's where that extra weight comes from. I've been trying to figure that out for a while now. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: _spain@edsug.com 17 Feb 1996 18:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:02:55 -0800 Subject: Trip report; San Gabriel ride To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Just got back from our San Gabriel ride :-). We had an excellent ride despite some early morning drizzles which threatened to ruin the day! Dave and I got to the restaurant early (about 8:30) and Dave began to fret that we were a) here on the wrong day, or b) all by ourselves due to the mild rain. At 9:10, we went into the restaurant hoping that both Steve and Johan decided to skip breakfast :-). At 9:20, Johan and his wife walked into the restaurant which sure was a welcome sight! Steve and his significant other walked in only a few minutes later! We ordered breakfast and chatted about all the news since our last ride. At about 10:05, we were ready to head out. We stopped for gas and headed up the 405. I only missed one turn! Honest! :-) Once we got going north on the 405, we were supposed to turn north on the 605. A quick U-turn later, we were pointed in the right direction. With everyone connected via radio (Dave and I had our Chatter boxes, Johan had a two way radio, and Steve was using Johan's scanner), we were able to chat about the dumb cagers all the way north ;-). We made it out to the foothills at about 11:00AM. We then picked up Jeff Hamilton! Jeff just merged with us as we headed up the canyon. For some reason, I was not sure Jeff had a PC800 but not only was it a PC800, it was (you guessed it) a 1989 :-). Up the canyon we motored, all FOUR white PC800s! Not quite 150 (as in France) but impressive none the less :-). I must admit, I was being overly conservative (Jeff passed me on the way up) but we didn't want to push anyone ;-). The misting weather cleared and it turned into a very clear and sunny day. It was actually warmer up on the top of the mountains than it was in the 'valley' :-). Off the bike, I was very comfortable in a T-shirt. We turned off to Crystal Lake and found a ranger (or whatever) who was asking for $3 per bike :-}. Hmmm. $12! I first asked him to let us in for free (worth a shot) but no.... He then offered us a two-for-one deal ($6). Crying poor, I offered him $5. I think he was ready to take it but Steve (who was listening in on Johan's scanner) came forward with the extra buck :-). $6 later, we were "in" :-). We pushed forward to the "lake" (or what passes for a lake in California) and started lunch. It is hard to picture this "lake" because it really is just a shallow puddle surrounded by trees. There were some fishermen in some kind of inner tube apparatus, fly fishing the lake. The size fish they were catching was ... well... embarrassing :-}. I also won't go into the problems finding enough tree/bush cover to take a pee ;-). Lunch was opened up and everyone got a chance to tell a few favorite motorcycle stories :-). Both Jeff and Steve are part of the same motorcycle club so they discussed when the next ride was. We also talked about what kind of bikes we have owned in the past etc. :-). On the way out of the campground, we hit the outhouse. Actually the small building had only a hole in the floor. How did I know this? (since I stayed on my motorcycle)? Well you have to understand that Johan has a radio on his helmet *and* he left his helmet on his head *and* left the radio turned *ON*. All I heard from the speakers in my helmet was Johan saying "THERE'S JUST A HOLE IN THE FLOOR!!!!". We all thought this was very funny :-). We then proceeded to the top of the mountain where the view was simply magnificent! Steve got a few pictures which I hope come out! We picked up some 9mm handgun shells (empty thank you!) :-) to take home and started our way down the mountain. On the way back, Dave and I stopped Orange County Honda to price an additional light for the PC (I hope to put it on top of the trunk) and put on order another bulb and socket for the middle brake light. If everything works out, I hope to have all three lights come on when braking. Perhaps I'm obsessing about these lights :-). The priority lights seem to work just fine :-). Johan gets to organize the next ride through Malibu. I can't wait! :-) Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:21:51 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: siegel@main.com (Siegel) Subject: Interest in pc800 Introductions - My last motorcycle experience was in the mid sixties (that's 1960's) and am now looking at purchasing a Pacific Coast . At the tender age of 49 I'm registered at a MSC in late March. I'm about 5'11" and 200 lbs. In reading your archives I came across concerns about windshields not high enough to protect from wind/noise and something about the sun melting the plastic etc. , very usefull stuff. Of most interest was the prices asked for new and used pc800. Two dealers I've checked in Houston are asking about $8900 new. I have two questions , is the pc800 large enough for me , and what is the market now for used and new pc800's? Hans Siegel ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: siegel@main.com (Siegel) CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Interest in pc800 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 19 Feb 1996 00:25:17 -0600 Lines: 25 >>>>> "S" == Siegel writes: S> Of most interest was the prices asked for new and used pc800. Two S> dealers I've checked in Houston are asking about $8900 new. Where in Houston did you check? They don't seem to be too popular around here; I had to buy mine new because I simply couldn't find one after looking for six months. Plus, we don't have a real off season so you don't get many winter price breaks. S> I have two questions , is the pc800 large enough for me , and what is S> the market now for used and new pc800's? If you want to know if it fits you, give a call and I might let you ride mine. (Assuming you have a license and you are in Houston as you seem to indicate.) The market in Houston is kind of random. If you look hard enough and are willing to wait you _will_ find one eventually. You may have to buy from Stubbs, though. Unfortunately these bastards get most of the used market in town; just don't expect even a thank you for your money. You don't have to look hard to find a dealer with a leftover '94-'95 model if you're not attached to the -+*RED*+- of the '96. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:01:12 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Interest in pc800 Hi Hans! I'm 5'11" and 180 lbs, and the PC fits me quite well, although I've gone to the taller windscreen on my '89. I always cover the bike when it's parked outside; so, I've not had the problem with the dash damage that has been reported by others. JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:11:08 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Kathleen Feher Subject: PC Hats Been unable to contact Pat Roddy. He said he had some PC Hats that he offered to the group for $4. I would like to get one. If still available, I would like to get a red one with white lettering. Be glad to send $4 plus shipping if I had an address for Pat. TIA Kathleen Feher KATHF@apci.net ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:51:20 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) Subject: Pictures of wind defl and luggage rack Well the pictures are back of my attempts to cure the wind up the pants trick the PC knows so well. I also took a couple of a simple luggage rack and a modified front fender mud flap that are on my PC. If someone can scan them and arrange for them to be seen, please drop me a line here or at . If you just want to see the actual pix, do the same but plan on sending them back afterwards. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:24:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: PC800 Subject: who who pc800@hpc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:40:15 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Rifle Windshield for PC >From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us > AKMAIL1.Alaska >To: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu >Subject: Rifle Windshield for PC >Date: 16 Feb 96 24:23:38 GMT > > Good afternoon! Been reading the latest talk about dash meltdown which > reminded me of my first message I was trying to post. I was > contemplating replacing my stock shield with a Rifle and was wondering > if it improves the windflow. The wind buffets the top of my helmet. I > know this must be a FAQ but thought I would go ahead and ask anyway. > Also, how easy is it to replace? Are the instructions good? > > Thanks for all the warm welcomes...Jo > > > Jo Ruby > Juneau, Alaska > Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us > 1994 Honda PC800 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800'" Subject: Sunny Seattle Ride - NOT Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:25:42 -0800 We had a good ride ~ 175 miles. It rained, poured, and got a little windy. It was myself, the Gross brothers Steve/Dave, and Dave's girlfriend from Portland (whom he met online - cyber romance). My girlfriend Leanne joined us for breakfast but conveniently discovered a bridal shower she wanted to attend. \"/ I led the trip on backroads through a farming region north of Seattle (Stanwood) to a place on the north end of Whidbey Island called Deception Pass. It's a deep, narrow gorge that seperates the island from the mainland. Spectacular view from the bridge and a beautiful state park there. Needless to say, the rain and cold left little time to sightsee. We heated up on some coffee and then blasted our way south down the island and caught the ferry back to Seattle. We stopped by a Honda dealer (Lake City Honda) to talk shop with the service guy (he know's mods for PC's) and drool over shiny new bikes. It was good trip but very wet, even by Seattle standards. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 20 Feb 96 19:13:52 EST From: "Cory S. Estes" <103342.3616@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Another PC Rider Bites the BMW Dust! Had the opportunity to take a test ride on a BMW R1100 RT this weekend ;-} , thought I'd pass along a report on my experience. 1. I'd replace the seat before refilling the gas tank for the first time! The seat adjustment system is outstanding with the middle setting being just right. The high setting left a hard edge that was too uncomfortable on the inside of my thighs. The lowest setting was a comfortable reach to the pegs and the ground, but it lowered the front of the seat in such a way that it was a little tough on the ......uhm......family jewels. A few miles in that position and I would have been trying out for the boy's choir. The chief focus of my complaint is, simply, the seat itself. After fifteen minutes it was too hard and uncomfortable. Is that number 1-800-CORBIN ? 2. Complaint number two centers on the turn signal controls. HELLO BMW? This is the '90s, remember? Have you ever heard of self-canceling turnsignals? Ok, fine, I could probably get use to having the right signal under the right thumb and the left signal under the left thumb, but to have the cancel for both be controled by a little switch that requires an upward movement of the right thumb....... Just plain dumb! Not comfortable and confusing. Any motorcycle that costs as much as this one should have self-canceling signals, period. 3. The ABS was spot-on. Absolutely fantastic brakes. 'nuff said. 4. The bags are really nice. They open easily and mount and dismount very easily. When they're off the mounts are all but invisible. The optional tail trunk was of equal quality, but I'm not the best guy to ask about tail trunks, I don't like the look. The bags, together, probably have the capacity of the PC trunk. 5. Like the ABS, the suspension was about perfect. It rode good, handled good, and was as solid as a rock. Little or no fork dive on braking, very nice! 6. I've never ridden a boxer before. The torque effect took me by surprise. I could easily get use to it, it certainly wouldn't be enough to keep me from buying the beast. It's there, though. 7. Once warmed up, the fuel injection seemed even and well modulated. It ran nicely and I didn't notice any flat spots. There was lots of power at just about any speed in just about any gear, lots of torque available! I would have thought that an 1100cc would have substantially more "git" than 800cc PC. It had more, but not, in my opinion, substantially more. (Even though it's an 1100cc, I guess it's not fair to compare it to a CBR-900RR!) 8. If I remember correctly, didn't the moto journalists complain about the transmission? I certainly don't understand that at all. I don't think the PC's transmission is all that bad, and the beemer's is smoother than the PC's. 9. The journalists also complained about the radio, but this one had the radio on back order, so I can't speak on that. 10. The electric windshield is a kick! It made a big difference in the protection. The up position provided lots of coverage but I did have to look through it rather than over it part of the time. The lower it went, the higher the noise level went, but I could see that in higher temperatures the lower windshield would be a life saver. I could easily live with this thing every day. I like it. Do I like it better than the PC? I'm not sure. Do I like it enough to replace the PC with one? Perhaps. Would I buy one? I don't know, that's lots of bucks for a motorcycle. It would be tempting. If I could just graft the trunk from a PC onto the back....... AND THE SELF-CANCELING TURN SIGNALS.......... AND THE GREAT PC SEAT....... Later, Cory "Traveling Turtle" '89 Honda Pacific Coast "Millenium Turtle" '82 Honda FT-500 Ascot (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:22:54 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:19:43 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: Another PC Rider Bites the BMW Dust! Cory, I agree with your assessment of the BMW. Of course, the seat went to "midget" and stayed there. My main question, the one that keeps me off of a Magna, BMW, _and_ (for now) the Valkryie F6, is..... is it worth the $$$$ when the PC's almost paid for. -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:28:15 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Another PC Rider Bites the BMW Dust! Cory wrote: >2. Complaint number two centers on the turn signal controls. HELLO BMW? This >is the '90s, remember? Have you ever heard of self-canceling turnsignals? Ok, >fine, I could probably get use to having the right signal under the right thumb >and the left signal under the left thumb, but to have the cancel for both be >controled by a little switch that requires an upward movement of the right >thumb....... Just plain dumb! Not comfortable and confusing. Any motorcycle >that costs as much as this one should have self-canceling signals, period. Cory's complaint reminds me of a funny story that happened to me. A couple of summers ago I went down to San Francisco with a friend of mine. There I rented a BMW K75, which I rode for 1,500 miles up and down the California coast and into the hills of No. Cal. (Highly recommended tour if you get the chance!) Anyway, I did find the turn signal arrangement a bit awkward, but got used to it quickly. When I got back I took my PC for a ride around the university campus. I was going about 15 mph and I needed to make a left turn. I proceeded to signal my turn while slowing down to allow a large group of students cross the road in front of me and of course, I was used to "push left to signal left" (sort of like countersteering, yes?: - ) All this happened shortly after I had installed the air horns, and we all know which button you "push" on the left handle bar, correct? Well, needless to say, I scared the beejesus out of 15-20 students who then gave me such a glare I could have stopped without using the brakes! I quickly gave them a "sorry, my thumb slipped" excuse and took off. I felt badly at first, but even today I get a chuckle when I remember the scared-rabbit look in all those young faces! Ha! : - D Later! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:28:46 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: To Bryceu/ Dealer Mods Bryceu, You mentioned a guy at the Lake City Honda Dealer that knows some mods for the PC. I am picking up a new 95 soon and would love to know what kind of mods you are talking about. Power mods would be great. Thanks, Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:33:54 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Alternative bikes >My main question, the one that keeps me off of a Magna, BMW, _and_ (for >now) the Valkryie F6, is..... Speaking of the F6 Valkyrie (what a name!) I can't believe the placement of the lower radiator hose. Tsk, tsk, most un-Honda like. And, anyone recognize those rider footpegs? hmmm.. I wonder where I've seen them before? >is it worth the $$$$ when the PC's almost paid for. Easy, it is worth it if you really _want_ it to be. I'm sure we could all come up with excuses for our S.O.'s if we wanted those othe bikes bad enough. : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:46:53 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Message response At 10:44 AM 2/17/96 +0000, you wrote: >Ihave'nt been able to SEND messages to the list of late. I think I >getall the messages but when I reply I don't see my replys on the >list. What am I doing wrong ? I am sending this by copying the list >address to my address book and sending a message direct. Shouldn't I >be able to reply and see my message ? Did I miss some changes >somewhere, I've been hibernating this winter. Please help -- Hello John, I guess you are one of many of us that got caught unaware of the change that Jason did to the mailer. If you want to respond to the list you have to make sure that the list address is shown in the To: portion of your message. If you just hit "reply" you will only reply to the sender of the original message, not to the list. It might take a couple of extra steps, but I'm getting used to it. I'm sure this is the reason traffic on the list dropped quite a bit shortly after the change. I also say this for the people that sent their welcomes to Jo Ruby. I don't mind forwarding messages to her, in fact, I'llbe happy to do so in the future, but I just thought I'd let you folks know. Are you able to ride now, or are you still snow bound? Here preparations continue for the trip to STAR '96. We finally got a decent amount of snow this weekend (18"), so I'll be able to take the sled out a preserve my sanity - as soon as I fix the %^#@ carburator. Stay warm! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'KlassC@aol.com'" Subject: RE: To Bryceu/ Dealer Mods Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:54:39 -0800 I will send the details as soon as I have them. To summarize the plan is to use some larger jets, tweak the needles, and bevel the leading edge of the throat to smooth out the airflow. Dave Gross is getting the jets re-done this week as well. Full report will follow soon! -bryceu >---------- >From: KlassC@aol.com[SMTP:KlassC@aol.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 1996 6:28 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: To Bryceu/ Dealer Mods > >Bryceu, >You mentioned a guy at the Lake City Honda Dealer that knows some mods >for >the PC. I am picking up a new 95 soon and would love to know what kind >of >mods you are talking about. Power mods would be great. > >Thanks, > >Chris >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 15:17:24 PST From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Hi everyone. Hi everyone! My name is Erin Dolin and I'm a new subscriber to the PC800 mailing list. I don't presently own a PC800 but am looking very closely at them. My ride now is a 1981 KZ440 which I've been riding for about 3 years, although I've had my mc license about 5. I test rode a PC at a motorcycle show about 2 years ago and was definitely impressed with what it had to offer, but I guess I don't have to tell you that! I live in Mountain View, CA (about 30 miles south of San Francisco just in case...) and have been looking for a bigger bike which will allow me to commute but is also capable of long distance touring and the twisty-turnies so prominant in the Santa Cruz Mountains and beyond ;^) . I really enjoy reading everything the group posts and I'm keeping a log of information for when I finally make the purchase. Of course the PC is the angel side of my shoulder (it's practical, versatile, good woman bike), whereas the Triumph Thunderbird is the devil side (it's sexy as hell and who cares about practicality!). I'm glad I found this group to post to. Thanks for all the information so far and I look forward to future posts. Best wishes, Erin Erin.Dolin@forsythe.stanford.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@HPC.UH.EDU ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:05:17 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Re: Hi everyone. At 03:17 PM 2/20/96 PST, you wrote: >Hi everyone! > >My name is Erin Dolin and I'm a new subscriber to the PC800 mailing >list. I don't presently own a PC800 but am looking very closely at >them. My ride now is a 1981 KZ440 which I've been riding for about >3 years, although I've had my mc license about 5. I test rode a PC Welcome Erin! All we cansay is that you can't go wrong with a PC, but then again, we just _might_ be a bit biased. You are in good company. There is a group of list members that have been getting together to go for rides (four white PC's at last count) Watch this space for more ride announcements. Good luck! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:30:35 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:38:38 +0000 From: Dave Gross To: pc800 Subject: Re: Another PC Rider Bites the BMW Dust! I agree with Steve and Cory..the BMW is sweet....and, the dumb turn signals suck. $$$$$ not withstanding, I'd say bye to the PC for the BMW... then again..that Valkrie...man oh man. -- Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog {WOOF} "Ain't nuthin but the dog in me..." (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:18:49 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:12:38 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 Subject: PC 800 vs. Thunderbird Hmmmm, Erin, you pose an interesting dilemma.... I trust that good will prevail over evil???? The T-bird may be sexy, but there's nothing quite like the "what the hell kind'o cycle is _that_" look you get with a PC -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:59:01 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: reap@pixi.com (Ronald E. Pacholec) Subject: Meltdown...OUCH!!! I still have the stock windshield on my 89 and am about to get a taller one. I know that this was also discussed a few months ago, but living in Hawaii, I really need to be sure about possible meltdown or other heat related problems. I was intending to get the Rifle which from back mail seems to be O.K.. So has anyone noticed even MINOR problems with Rifle? Also, what's a good height - I'm 5'10"? Thanks again for all the recommendations for Metzler ML-2. I love my new tire - it feels like my butt's glued to the pavement. Keep warm - Aloha, Ron Pacholec reap@pixi.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:25:00 -0600 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: ruf@nconnect.net (Bob Rufener) Subject: pc800 Name: Bob Rufener e-mail: ruf@nconnect.net Location: Hartford, WI I just got back into riding three years ago. I bought a used CM400T ('81 vintage) and am ready to graduate. The PC really has caught my eye. I would appreciate information you might be able to provide me with regarding cost, performance, likes and dislikes. I probably would be interested in a '90 if I can locate one. Thanks for your help. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:27:06 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Re: Hi everyone. At 03:17 PM 2/20/96 PST, you wrote: >Hi everyone! > >My name is Erin Dolin and I'm a new subscriber to the PC800 mailing >list. I don't presently own a PC800 but am looking very closely at >them. My ride now is a 1981 KZ440 which I've been riding for about Erin, My first bike was the KZ440LTD, then the Virago 750, then the PC800, and now a GL1200i. That KZ was a good bike! The PC is GREAT!!! Welcome to the list. --- Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator --- --- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:56:20 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: Erin.Dolin@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Cc: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Reply to: Hi everyone. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 02/21/96 07:58 ## Welcome, Erin. Be good to yourself. One of each. Don't we all wish. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Erin.Dolin@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU:dg-smtp Date: ## 02/20/96 15:17 ## Hi everyone! My name is Erin Dolin and I'm a new subscriber to the PC800 mailing list. I don't presently own a PC800 but am looking very closely at them. My ride now is a 1981 KZ440 which I've been riding for about 3 years, although I've had my mc license about 5. I test rode a PC at a motorcycle show about 2 years ago and was definitely impressed with what it had to offer, but I guess I don't have to tell you that! I live in Mountain View, CA (about 30 miles south of San Francisco just in case...) and have been looking for a bigger bike which will allow me to commute but is also capable of long distance touring and the twisty-turnies so prominant in the Santa Cruz Mountains and beyond ;^) . I really enjoy reading everything the group posts and I'm keeping a log of information for when I finally make the purchase. Of course the PC is the angel side of my shoulder (it's practical, versatile, good woman bike), whereas the Triumph Thunderbird is the devil side (it's sexy as hell and who cares about practicality!). I'm glad I found this group to post to. Thanks for all the information so far and I look forward to future posts. Best wishes, Erin Erin.Dolin@forsythe.stanford.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@HPC.UH.EDU -- Visit the PC800 web page at To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:03:35 -0600 (CST) Wed, 21 Feb 1996 8:03:18 -0500 (EST) To: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM From: "Waldo E. Meeks" Subject: Re: Reply to: Hi everyone. Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 07:56 AM 2/21/96 est, you wrote: >which will allow me to commute but is also capable of long distance >touring and the twisty-turnies so prominant in the Santa Cruz >Mountains and beyond ;^) . Sounds like a PC to me. Waldo ============================== Dr. Waldo E. Meeks Manufacturing Program Coordinator/ Professor - Industrial Management Allen E. Paulson College of Science and Technology LB# 8047 Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460 (912)681-5828 FAX (912)871-1853 ============================== ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Robert E. Marks" Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:50:52 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: windsheild melt-down I would like to suggest a possible solution to the tall honda windshield problem. Since it is the very top edge that is acting as a focusing lens, is it likely the problem could be solved by either: 1. filing the edge flat or 2. painting the rounded edge? Just a quess, since someone mentioned adding the rubber edging to the shield prevented melt-down. ============================================================================== Robert E. Marks CAD/CAM S/W development & support Lockheed Martin email: rmarks@motown.mmc.com Moorestown, NJ voice: (609) 722-3777, fax: (609) 722-4410 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:03:14 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:58:30 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 , "Ronald E. Pacholec" Subject: Re: PC 800 vs. Thunderbird Ron, I usually get interested nods from BMW riders -- Had one guy on an 1100 boxer without any of the extras tell me at a light that while ge loved his Beemer, he missed his PC's wind protection. I told him that if he was gonna drop the $$$ for the 1100, he should've gone whole hog & gotten a fairing. What's another coupla thousand $$? I do work for one of the local city governments, and the 1st time I rode to a City Council meeting, The mayor complimented me on how cute my scooter was. I told her I'd stack it against her Miata anytime. And of course, the police chief, and old Indian rider from way back, wants to know when I'm going to get a "real" bike. I just laugh.... Ronald E. Pacholec wrote: > Have you ever gotten the following, or is it just because I live in Hawaii? > > Local Girl to Boyfriend "Lookie dat! Nice scooter hey?" > Boyfriend's response "Yo Babe! Dat's a scooter on steroids." > > The above boyfriend rides a Harley. I tapped him on the shoulder and said > the PC was my bike. He said "That bike's a machine ahead of its times, my > Harley's a machine behind the times" - Yeh, we all know that, I thought. -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:26:12 -0700 (MST) From: ERIC YORK To: Steve Gross Cc: pc800 , "Ronald E. Pacholec" Subject: Re: PC 800 vs. Thunderbird > > Boyfriend's response "Yo Babe! Dat's a scooter on steroids." > > I have gotten that a lot. Another popular epithet (for the '89) is a "rolling refrigerator" Eric (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:49:21 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:04:47 +0000 From: Dave Gross To: pc800 Subject: rollin fridge the main thing I get with my '89 is questions about engine size and automatic transmissions...and occasionally I like to leave people at a light...heheheee _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog {WOOF} _/"Ain't nuthin but the dog in me..." _/ _/_/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 21 Feb 96 13:08:51 EST From: "Cory S. Estes" <103342.3616@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: RE: To Bryceu/ Dealer Mods Good luck! Please keep us all posted. I'll pass on a story about this type of thing. I read, I believe in HSTA STAReview several months or years ago, that one of the "Two Brothers," of Two Brothers Racing fame, bought a PC and liked it well enough but tried to do some mods to the thing to get to run a little freer and breath a little better. If I remember correctly, the story goes that he fussed and fussed and messed and messed and finally could only get it to run properly by putting it all back to original. Not trying to scare you, and I don't even know if the story is true, but if the considerable resources of TBR couldn't tame the beast................ Later, Cory "Traveling Turtle" '89 Honda Pacific Coast "Millenium Turtle" '82 Honda FT-500 Ascot ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:34:16 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Meltdown...OUCH!!! At 11:59 PM 2/20/96 -1000, you wrote: >I still have the stock windshield on my 89 and am about to get a taller >one. I know that this was also discussed a few months ago, but living in >Hawaii, I really need to be sure about possible meltdown or other heat >related problems. I was intending to get the Rifle which from back mail >seems to be O.K.. So has anyone noticed even MINOR problems with Rifle? >Also, what's a good height - I'm 5'10"? Ron, I've never heard of dash meltdown problems with the Rifle unit. However, as I've mentioned before, I over-tightened the plastic nuts that hold the clear portion to the opaque one and I now have tiny stress cracks on all the bolt holes. I am considering adding larger washers to spread the stress out or even a long strip of aluminum all the way across the bottom of the shield. Not sure yet. As for size, I'm 5'7" and the +2" version is just about perfect for me. You might do better with the +4". Good luck! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:51:13 PST From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC looks Hi Steve, Yes I know what you mean about the style factor on the PC. When I test rode the PC it was at a motorcycle show in South San Francisco and Harley was also doing demo rides. As I was sitting on the PC waiting for us to leave a group of "Harley-types" walked by and said that it was just an overgrown scooter and how could anybody possibly *like* it. I told them I'd meet them at the top of the hill after they got their hogs started and the oil leaks stopped :^). Funny...I don't think they appreciated that remark. Erin Dolin ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: PC800@HPC.UH.EDU ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 21 Feb 96 19:03:28 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: Message for Erin Dolin Sorry to post this here, but I couldn't get a message through to Erin...must have his address wrong! Anyway, here's your message, Erin! Since I didn't find your name on my latest copy of our HSTA membership list, I am taking the liberty of sending you this message... >If you're not a member of the Honda Sport Touring Association, I'd like to send you an information brochure/membership application! We >have close to 2,000 members and more than 100 Pacific Coast owners within our ranks! We plan to have a meeting of PC owners at STAR >'96, our 14th national rally, to be held June 23-27, 1996 at Canaan Valley Resort, Davis, West Virginia. I hope to see you there! >So...send me your snail-mail address and I'll fill up your mail box!! I have a 1990 Honda PC800 Pacific Coast with 62,000 trouble-free >miles. It runs and looks almost like new! In closing, please consider joining the Honda Sport Touring Association. We're going >places...crank up that PC and ride along with us! + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + DANA L. SAWYER + +Founder, Executive Committee Member and + + South Carolina State Director + + Honda Sport Touring Association + + HSTA Member #0001 + + HRCA Member #700266 + + AMA (Life) Member # 180901 + + 1990 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 + + "Life is short...I think I'll go ridiing!" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'Juan A. Goula'" Subject: RE: Meltdown...OUCH!!! Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:38:12 -0800 I'll 2nd what Juan had to say. The Rifle shape doesn't lend itself to a dash meltdown. At +4 inches you will end up looking through the shield most of the time unless you sit real straigh. I bring that up because when it rains you won't be able to see very well unless riding 60+ to blow the water off. If you don't ride in the rain much no big deal. Wind will just tap the top of your helmet with the +4 so I'd expect the +2 to put a little more across the top. I have a +4, am 5'10" and us a windsheild wiper for all the Seattle rain. I can see over the top when I need to but I wouldn't ride that way for seveal hours. The only crack I developed was the one I made over tightening one of the bolts. It's small, never went all the way through, and hasn't grown a bit in 20k miles. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:12:04 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: My New 95 Well its done! I pick up my new 95 PC this weekend. I traded a 95 Vulcan 800 and some cash for the bike. I liked the PC from the begining but a stp at the Kawa dealer last Nov was a big mistake. I bought it on the spot. Love the looks, and it rides very nice. But I just could not forget the PC. So I found a dealer that could work me a deal. It was tough to buy the depreciation all at once, but after some neg. I got a fair deal. My first addition will probably be a rifle 4 inch screen. Next I am looking to get some tunes. The radio bag is a bit much $. So I am thinking, Sony offers sterios w/ remote controls. I thought I could mount the radio in the trunk and put the remote in the fairing box or somewhere on the dash. Does anyone know about speakers? Crutchfield has a big selection. How about the number of watts I will need? Also, I am going to need a back rest for my SO. Any ideas? Is there a manufacturer of back rests for the driver? Any advice would be great. Chris Laramie, WY (Not much snow, but lots of wind, argh!) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: HTBIII@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:13:13 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Motorcyce rental in Ireland We will be traveling to Ireland in May with my wife's parents (hence: a rental car). We would like to take a few days at the end of the trip to rent a motorcycle (preferably something similar to the PC I own & ride daily at home) and tour the Southwest (ring of Kerry) area. Does anyone have any ideas about who would have information on motorcycle rentals? Please e-mail responses to htbiii@aol.com Thanks Tom Byron ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800@hpc.uh.edu'" Subject: RE: My New 95 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:49:59 -0800 >---------- >From: Bryce Ulrich >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 1996 5:49 PM >To: 'KlassC@aol.com' >Subject: RE: My New 95 > >From: KlassC@aol.com[SMTP:KlassC@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 1996 5:12 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: My New 95 > >Does anyone know about speakers? > >If I remember right the cutouts are for 4" speakers. The dash panel is >easy to remove. There's a small black strip beneath each of the cutouts. >Use the tip of a screwdriver to pry it off (should come easily) and that >will expose a screw under each side. Remove the screws and the >dash/speaker cutouts will come off and expose the speaker mounts. > >How about the number of watts I will need? > >I've never ridden a bike with speakers but just knowing what it's like at >60+ I can't imagine 15watts would be enough to really hear a radio. Not >sure. > >Also, I am going to need a back rest for my SO. Any ideas? > >There's a hondaline accessory. Something like $150. > > Is there a manufacturer of back rests for the driver? Any advice would be >great. > >Utopia makes one for the stock PC seat. There's a picture on the web page. > Have a look at the archives (within the last 2 months) and you'll find the >report and installation instructions. > >Corbin Saddles also make a PC saddle. There's a movable lumbar support but >it's not a backrest. A larger and tiltable passenger backrest is also >available. Expesive but most who have them prefer them. See the archives >over the last 6-8 months. > >-bryceu > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 >Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA >'89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 >---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:00:23 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Speakers At 05:49 PM 2/21/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >>---------- >>From: Bryce Ulrich >>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 1996 5:49 PM >>To: 'KlassC@aol.com' >>Subject: RE: My New 95 >> >>From: KlassC@aol.com[SMTP:KlassC@aol.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 1996 5:12 PM >>To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >>Subject: My New 95 >> >>Does anyone know about speakers? >> >>If I remember right the cutouts are for 4" speakers. The dash panel is >>easy to remove. There's a small black strip beneath each of the cutouts. >>Use the tip of a screwdriver to pry it off (should come easily) and that >>will expose a screw under each side. Remove the screws and the >>dash/speaker cutouts will come off and expose the speaker mounts. >> >>How about the number of watts I will need? >> >>I've never ridden a bike with speakers but just knowing what it's like at >>60+ I can't imagine 15watts would be enough to really hear a radio. Not >>sure. >> >>Also, I am going to need a back rest for my SO. Any ideas? >> >>There's a hondaline accessory. Something like $150. >> >> Is there a manufacturer of back rests for the driver? Any advice would be >>great. >> >>Utopia makes one for the stock PC seat. There's a picture on the web page. >> Have a look at the archives (within the last 2 months) and you'll find the >>report and installation instructions. >> >>Corbin Saddles also make a PC saddle. There's a movable lumbar support but >>it's not a backrest. A larger and tiltable passenger backrest is also >>available. Expesive but most who have them prefer them. See the archives >>over the last 6-8 months. >> >>-bryceu >> >>---------------------------------------------------------- >>Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 >>Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA >>'89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 >>---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:05:48 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Speakers (part deux) At 05:49 PM 2/21/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >>---------- >>From: Bryce Ulrich >>Does anyone know about speakers? >> >>If I remember right the cutouts are for 4" speakers. The dash panel is >>easy to remove. There's a small black strip beneath each of the cutouts. >>Use the tip of a screwdriver to pry it off (should come easily) and that >>will expose a screw under each side. Remove the screws and the >>dash/speaker cutouts will come off and expose the speaker mounts. oops! sorry about the last goof up. "My thumb slipped" : - ) One more add on to Bryce's note. I would try to get waterproof speakers, at least weather resistant. Rain might not get to them, but I'd hate to realize I just killed an expensive set of speakers last time I washed the bike! I suggest checking with a boat accessory store. Plenty of those down there, right Bryce? Stay warm (dry?) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:13:08 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Givi Distributor Howdy. Since Givi does make a product for the PC, I thought I'd forward this message to the PC800 list (which was forwarded to the HSTA list). For those of you who subscribe to both, sorry about the repeat posting. Juan >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 00:21:07 UT >From: "Mark Fox" >To: Honda Sport Touring Association >Subject: Givi Distributor > "MSN:VFR Mail Posting" > > >I saw a posting on the USENET about a Canadian Distributor of the Givi product >line. I wrote them with a series of questions to receive additional >information about their organization. I'm posting this as a service to the >motorcycling community. I am in no way associated with this firm and I have >not had any dealings with them other than an email. The following is the >information that I collected: > >Mark Fox > >The company name is C.S.A.M.S.. >It just started in January >We have acces to a number of parts and accessories for motorcycles. >Yes, we do sell the entire Givi product line. >We ship in Canada and the USA. >We are based in Canada >We use air as a shipping method to replenish our stocks. When out of >stock, Givi product still tends to take about 4 weeks to get. They're a >big hit in Europe and therefore they get the stock before we do. >It is a part-time business. I have a software distribution business as a >full time job. > >The adress to reach us is : > >CSAMS >8090 Saguenay >Brossard, Qc. Canada >J4X 1H7 > >Phone : (514) 232-4717 Ask : for David Neault (ext. 229) or >Andre Morissette (ext. 225) FAX : (514) 466-2806 > >The BEST way to reach us during the day is via e-mail at >Amorissette@3-SOFT.com or Dneault@3-SOFT.com. > >We do the best to provide the fastest possible response time and delivery >time. Our prices are very competitive. >MONOKEY by Givi system - The aerodynamic interchangeable suitcase > >The carefully design embossed anti-scratch finish is extremely durable >even after lenghty use. The >exclusive MONOKEY device allows a single key to be used both to open the >case and to unlock the >case from the bike. All cases are perfectly symmetrical and can be >interchangeble > >Here's a price list in Canadian dollars, FOB CSAMS for the Givi product >line. > >***** Note ***** I've deleted the price list to keep this posting small. >Contact the distributor or contact me and I'll mail it to you. > >Thank you for your request. > >Andre Morissette :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:32:22 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Third light At 06:02 PM 2/17/96 -0800, you wrote: >On the way back, Dave and I stopped Orange County Honda to price an >additional light for the PC (I hope to put it on top of the trunk) and put >on order another bulb and socket for the middle brake light. If everything >works out, I hope to have all three lights come on when braking. Perhaps >I'm obsessing about these lights :-). The priority lights seem to work >just fine :-). Sounds like you guys had a great time. I can't wait till we are able to do the same! (This morning it was -40 F at my place, aarrggghh!) I've been thinking about that center light since I got the bike, but never checked to see if it was possible. I'd love to hear if you were succesful in implementing this modification. What kind of light were you thinking about for the top of the trunk? Thanks, Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:44:28 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:26:36 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: pc800 , HTBIII@aol.com Subject: Re: Motorcyce rental in Ireland HTBIII@aol.com wrote: > > We will be traveling to Ireland in May with my wife's parents *** Tom, you lucky dog!!!!! I spent a wonderful week there a few years back. I highly recommend the NW corner! Great fun! Don't remember seeing motorcycle rentals. They ride on the wrong side up there, ya know... Messes up the reflexes something fierce! -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Dentman711@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:35:57 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Just buy an ST1100! PC800's don't need heart transplants, turbo's or any other go fast goodys. Just trade it in on a real nice ST1100. Simple yet affective. I tried to make a 550cc Jet Ski go fast and finally quit being foolish and bought a 750cc Ski. Of course eventually I wanted more speed so..... well they don't make any stand ups with bigger motors. I think everyone should go buy their old bikes back and then get back on the PC. I know I wouldn't trade my PC for my old KZ400. What a vibrating little pest that was. My old Sportster? Hell no. I like the PC as is. Truthfully when I asked Shaun the local Honda mechanic what he thought of the PC he said "stone reliable and slow" When he said that I said that's my kind of bike. I don't want a bike that beggs me to lean it over or raise the front wheel. I just want to ride SAFELY. Sincerely Rick Fisher Visit my Web Page and learn about Paintless Dent Repair! http://members.aol.com/dentman711/ Or my Sons page http://members.aol.com/dentman711/alex.html Dentman711@AOL.COM Dentman@eWORLD.COM ******************************************************************** 1995 Honda Pacific Coast 800cc /1992 Kawasaki 750SX Highly "stock" ;-) Wife & Son / 2 dogs & 1 cat HSTA # 6578 $$$$$$$$$$$(FOR SALE)1985 & 86 Kawasaki 550 (JET SKIS)$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ******************************************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 07:39:42 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: ("Juan_A._Goula")_jgoula@ims.alaska.edu Cc: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Reply to: Speakers (part deux) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 02/22/96 07:42 ## Speaking of boat accessories brings to mind another mod. When the PC came out in '89 a fellow HSTA member installed a top-center taillight/brakelight. I believe it was a boat trailer taillight. It came with a rubber gasket. He cut a hole in the trunk such that the light was in that empty space in the trunk lid above the latch mechanism. Great visibility. Requires body surgery unfortunately. Any comment, Bill? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: ("Juan A. Goula") jgoula@ims.alaska.edu:dg-smtp Date: ## 02/21/96 17:05 ## At 05:49 PM 2/21/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >>---------- >>From: Bryce Ulrich >>Does anyone know about speakers? >> >>If I remember right the cutouts are for 4" speakers. The dash panel is >>easy to remove. There's a small black strip beneath each of the cutouts. >>Use the tip of a screwdriver to pry it off (should come easily) and that >>will expose a screw under each side. Remove the screws and the >>dash/speaker cutouts will come off and expose the speaker mounts. oops! sorry about the last goof up. "My thumb slipped" : - ) One more add on to Bryce's note. I would try to get waterproof speakers, at least weather resistant. Rain might not get to them, but I'd hate to realize I just killed an expensive set of speakers last time I washed the bike! I suggest checking with a boat accessory store. Plenty of those down there, right Bryce? Stay warm (dry?) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:35:52 -0600 (CST) Thu, 22 Feb 1996 8:35:24 -0500 (EST) To: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM From: "Waldo E. Meeks" Subject: Re: Reply to: Speakers (part deux) Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 07:39 AM 2/22/96 est, you wrote: >Speaking of boat accessories brings to mind another mod. When the PC >came out in '89 a fellow HSTA member installed a top-center >taillight/brakelight. I believe it was a boat trailer taillight. It >came with a rubber gasket. He cut a hole in the trunk such that the >light was in that empty space in the trunk lid above the latch >mechanism. Great visibility. Requires body surgery unfortunately. >Any comment, Bill? I mounted two brake lights purchased from wal-mart on the rear of my PC. They are really tailer lights with two filiments in each. one for brake and turn and one for running lights. I wired both filiments together and wired both lights to the brake wire of the bike with a automobile flasher unit in line. When I hit the brakes these two lights begin flashing. Not sure of how legal they are but am not really concerned with that if I feel safer. See picture under "Waldo's home grown trailer hitch" to see the light setup. Waldo ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:41:53 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: PC 800 vs. Thunderbird On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, ERIC YORK wrote: > > > > Boyfriend's response "Yo Babe! Dat's a scooter on steroids." > > > > I have gotten that a lot. Another popular epithet (for the '89) is a > "rolling refrigerator" At my work I got the comment 'That's a nice bathtub you've got there' or 'When did Tupperware (tm) put wheels on their boxes' But I _do_ like the looks you get when riding your PC :) Especialy when you're riding with a group of 6 or 7 of them. Bas with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:04:11 -0500 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:03:57 -0500 From: JAN DEROOS To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just Buy an ST1100 Re: Just Buy an ST1100 The PC's not as slow as it's reputation. I ride with a local Harley crew quite a bit (I'm the resident weirdo that they put up with). A couple of guys own the Sportster 883's, which are 800cc V-Twins, very similar to the PC. I can consistently beat them in acceleration and handling, but not top end speed. We've even traded bikes for an afternoon, and I get beaten when when I'm on the 883 with the Harley owner on the PC. O.K. neither are the 4-cylinder crotch rockets, but it sure keeps the Harley crowd from crowing too much about the superiority of "American Iron". Just my 2 cents. Prof. Jan deRoos School of Hotel Administration Cornell University ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:55:58 EST From: stevea@uscsumter.uscsu.sc.edu (Steve Anderson) To: "Robert E. Marks" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: windsheild melt-down On my Hondaline Tall wind shield, I thought it was the side flared edge that acted like a magnifying glass (I may have been wrong... it happens, albiet rarely). I used an undershirt to act like a screen "sock" while parked in the sun... ugly but cheap! Then I bought a 4" rifle... love it! Better wind protection, Better visibility (my old wind shield got trashed bt using rain-ex... a real NO-NO on polycarbonate) Hint: I use lemon pledge on the Rifle wind shield and it works GREAT... removes everything AND acts like rain-ex so the visibility in the rain is MUCH improved... without any detectable buildup (yet... been about 5 months now) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:28:04 est From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Cycle News Check out the 1996 Buyer's Guide at http://www.cyclenews.com The PC price is about $900 short. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:19:43 -0800 (PST) From: Johan Lai To: PC800 Mail List cc: Ellen Seim Subject: Next ride (So. Cal) Ok, I know I said Malibu when we were parting company but a thought came to me in a dream (ok, I was day dreaming). Since we have a whole stretch of highway named after our prestigious mounts :P we should go and ride the Pacific Coast Highway. Sure Malibu is on the coast, but PCH is also close by. I was thinking we could start in Laguna Beach. Steve will have to pick out a donut shop or something since I only ride through Laguna Beach (I don't usually stop there). Then we can cruise northward toward Balboa. Take the ferry and head to Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, and Seal Beach. Maybe even stop for pictures at the piers. After that we continue through Long Beach along Ocean Blvd and have lunch at Shoreline Village. We'll head east after lunch and take the Santiago Canyon Road back to El Toro. There's a little stretch of slab on the 22 but it won't be too boring. We have the Orange Crush to keep us on our toes :) If it's alright with everyone, how does March 16 sound? I know that Jeff is up in Ventura and I had him in mind when I said Malibu. But you're more than welcomed to roam our beaches with us. It's an easier ride than the twisties but to tell the truth, I need a break from it. It's fun zipping throug the hills but it also keeps me a little on edge. Sometimes Lillian dozes behind me and I'm afraid to drop her off a cliff or something. Santiago Canyon is much milder than the last two rides so Steve, you can tell Patti that she's got the flats she wanted :) ========================================================================= Johan Lai UUCP Mail: None Unix Systems Admin Internet Mail: jlai@filenet.com Engineering Services Snail Mail: 3565 Harbor Boulevard FileNet Corporation Costa Mesa, CA 92626 "System Administration: It's a dirty job, somebody said I had to do it." ========================================================================= ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 22 Feb 96 15:33:55 EST From: Sidney.S.Letter@Dartmouth.EDU (Sidney S. Letter) Subject: Re: Next ride (So. Cal) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu --- Johan Lai wrote: we can cruise northward toward Balboa. Take the ferry and head to Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, and Seal Beach. Maybe even stop for pictures at the piers. After that we continue through Long Beach along Ocean Blvd and have lunch at Shoreline Village. --- end of quoted material --- Have you no mercy! Here several of us are in the Northeast. Slush all over the place, ice promised, and not a hint that motorcycle season will ever arrive, and you go on and on about a ride, presumably a ride in the sun (whatever that is). If you have no thought for us, then think of our comrades in places like Alaska! If you can't call off your trips, then use snailmail or at least direct email to plan them. Sid Letter, Lebanon, NH New owner of a 94 PC900R, currently in Concord NH and destined to stay there until the sun shines again, if ever. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:00:06 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Cruel & unusual punishment At 03:33 PM 2/22/96 EST, you wrote: >--- Johan Lai wrote: >we can cruise northward toward Balboa. >Take the ferry and head to Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, and Seal >Beach. Maybe even stop for pictures at the piers. After that we continue >through Long Beach along Ocean Blvd and have lunch at Shoreline Village. >--- end of quoted material --- > >Have you no mercy! Here several of us are in the Northeast. Slush all over >the place, ice promised, and not a hint that motorcycle season will ever >arrive, and you go on and on about a ride, presumably a ride in the sun >(whatever that is). If you have no thought for us, then think of our comrades >in places like Alaska! If you can't call off your trips, then use snailmail or >at least direct email to plan them. Hear! Hear! I say we boil them in their own SAE 20W50 (synthetic, of course) for counting gold coins in front of the poor! : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'Sidney.S.Letter@Dartmouth.EDU'" Subject: PC800 Email Etiquette Proposal.... Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:04:27 -0800 >RE: If you can't call off your trips, then use snailmail or >at least direct email to plan them. > >Sid Letter, Lebanon, NH ------------- I can't quite tell if there was sarcasm or if this was a legitimate request. I too prefer to keep the inbox small and will get jealous of warmer/drier climates. But at the same time I see a legitimate need for the PC800 list to be a place for trip organization and from time to time some good ol' gloating. We're all proud of our bikes, the places we live, who we ride with, etc and these things should be shared. The Norheast will have great riding weather again, Alaska will build a few more roads, and the CA sun will go away -- someday. (Keep the faith!) And as an avid reader I wanna hear all about it! If we are looking to make a rule here then I would propose *advertising* a group ride on the PC800 list but leaving the details and further organizational details to offline email exchanges. Once the ride takes place a trip report would be send to the list for all to admire. For example, I would send mail to PC800 saying I have a Seattle Rain Ride this coming weekend. Everyone interested in going, getting more details, or feels a bit jealous emails me back directly. I respond to individuals as appropriate. The day before the ride I post a status report to the PC800 list just to say the ride is still on, who's going, and how much great riding we'll be doing. After the ride a trip report for the list would probably follow -- that's where the gloating will come in. Look OK? Please send your comments direct to me, bryceu@microsoft.com, and I'll compile and forward to the list once I have a consensus. Oh yea, get the bike back tonight with the carburetor modifications. I told the mechanic the "world want's to know" his secrets (even Holland). He's promised to give me all the details as long as I don't share them with the other Seattle Honda shops and take his business. Full report will follow as soon as I get a chance to really ride the bike. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:29:03 -0800 (PST) From: Johan Lai To: PC800 Mail List Subject: Ride Sorry y'all. This is my first trip that I am planning for people other than myself. I didn't want to leave out others in the area so I sent the itinerary to the list. I like Bryce's idea and will abide by those rules. So to all the world around, a thousand pardons! :) ========================================================================= Johan Lai UUCP Mail: None Unix Systems Admin Internet Mail: jlai@filenet.com Engineering Services Snail Mail: 3565 Harbor Boulevard FileNet Corporation Costa Mesa, CA 92626 "System Administration: It's a dirty job, somebody said I had to do it." ========================================================================= ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 22 Feb 96 16:37:21 EST From: Sidney.S.Letter@Dartmouth.EDU (Sidney S. Letter) Subject: Re: Ride To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Ohmygosh. I really had no intention whatsoever of flaming anybody, but two out of three people who have responded to my message (intended to be humorous) have taken it seriously. My jealousy is real, but not at all as vituperative as my message would suggest if taken seriously. To the contrary, it's great to hear about people's trips (both planned and past). It helps keep us northerners aware that somewhere out there there is a sun and that we'll see it eventually. I'm particularly grateful for the courtesy of Johan's response. I think he was using the list exactly as it ought to be used. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:04:27 -0900 (AKST) To: Bryce Ulrich From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Email Etiquette Proposal.... Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu At 01:04 PM 2/22/96 -0800, you wrote: >Look OK? Please send your comments direct to me, bryceu@microsoft.com, and >I'll compile and forward to the list once I have a consensus. For what it is worth , Bryce, my comment was purely tounge-in-cheek. I love to be able to hear about rides that other people organize and enjoy. That is one of the reasons why I subcribe to this list (best one I've found so far, I might add) and to many M/C rags. So, yeah, I'm a bit jealous, but please, keep those reports and plans coming! At least this way I con go riding "by proxy." : - ) >Oh yea, get the bike back tonight with the carburetor modifications. I told >the mechanic the "world want's to know" his secrets (even Holland). He's >promised to give me all the details as long as I don't share them with the >other Seattle Honda shops and take his business. Full report will follow as >soon as I get a chance to really ride the bike. Hope to see it soon. I promise I won't share with the local Honda shop. : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:32:23 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Cruel & unusual punishment >From: Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us > AKMAIL1.Alaska >To: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu >Subject: Re: Cruel & unusual punishment >Date: 22 Feb 96 22:44:20 GMT > > On 2/22/96 Juan wrote: > > >For what it is worth , Bryce, my comment was purely tounge-in-cheek. > >I love to be able to hear about rides that other people organize and > >enjoy. That is one of the reasons why I subcribe to this list (best > >one I've found so far, I might add) and to many M/C rags. So, yeah, > >I'm a bit jealous, but please, keep those reports and plans coming! > >At least this way I con go riding "by proxy." : - ) > > I totally agree with Juan--For all of us "northern exposure" people we > can only dream of riding. Couldn't help but chuckle over today's > messages--highly entertaining! Keep up the good work! > > Jo Ruby > Juneau, Alaska > Jo_Ruby@labor.state.ak.us > 1994 Honda PC800/1983 Shadow 750 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Sidney.S.Letter@Dartmouth.EDU (Sidney S. Letter) CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Next ride (So. Cal) From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 22 Feb 1996 20:19:37 -0600 Lines: 13 >>>>> "SSL" == Sidney S Letter writes: SSL> Have you no mercy! Here several of us are in the Northeast. Slush SSL> all over the place, ice promised, and not a hint that motorcycle SSL> season will ever arrive, and you go on and on about a ride, presumably SSL> a ride in the sun (whatever that is). Wimp. It broke 100 in San Antonio yesterday, so Kent must be sweltering. It was 90 here yesterday. Those of you with snow still on the ground will laugh in about a month when it's 120 on the slab here and you're cruising around in the 70 degree weather we had all winter. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:26:19 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Cold hands At 02:46 PM 2/22/96 EST, you wrote: >Well, guess we know what those lights are on Waldo's trailer hitch! Figured If >we hung around long enough we'd hear about it. > >Forgot to mention...... about the RT. It had those factory heated grips. I >don't know what the temperature was, but they kept the palms warm, but the >finger tips and the backs of my hands still got kinna' nippy. Do you have to >sorta wait until the heat radiates up through? (Not trying to be a smart ass >here. :-) ) > >Later >C > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:28:53 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Cold hands At 02:46 PM 2/22/96 EST, you wrote: >Forgot to mention...... about the RT. It had those factory heated grips. I >don't know what the temperature was, but they kept the palms warm, but the >finger tips and the backs of my hands still got kinna' nippy. Do you have to >sorta wait until the heat radiates up through? (Not trying to be a smart ass >here. :-) ) Well of course your hands got cold! Yer s'pposed to wear gloves, remember? : - ) Did you try BMW's version of dash heater-vents? Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:51:42 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:09:27 -0800 From: Steve Gross To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: pc800 Subject: Re: PC800 Email Etiquette Proposal.... Bryce Ulrich wrote: > > For example, I would send mail to PC800 saying I have a Seattle Rain Ride > this coming weekend. Ok, where are we goin? Sunday's s'posed to be nice!!!! I agree with your plan. OTOH, it's nice to know someone, somewhere, is riding! -- Steve Gross "Get the retainer up front." ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Msennewa@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:39:15 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Touring Club Tim Macy wrote: > And please, if the gentleman from Germany is listening (electronically), chime in > and tell us about the type of riding you do. I've always been fascinated by the Alps > Tour rides and other european rides that are written up in Rider and other mags. Well, Tim, unfortunately I live more than 500 miles away from our Alps. But in my region there are more than enough nice places for motorcycle rides. In summer I'm every weekend somewhere around the German countryside. I prefer longer trips to our seasides. Here in Germany we have many small and winded roads with trees on every side. Riding there is really wonderful. In my holidays I like visit other european countries. This summer I'll travel around England's South Coast and I hope that I'll have the time to come to Italy. I have some friends in Milan there, and they invited me more than once to come. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Msennewa@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:38:47 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu cc: bas@bsltwr.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Any PC800's here in Europe ? (Best would be Germany) Hello Bas and all the others, sorry for the late answer, but I had to work for three weeks in London and there was no chance to go into my e-mail. It's great to here that there is a PC-Club in the Netherlands. I'm really interested to get a contact address. Bas, do you think they would accept a member from Germany ? Also I would like to know more about this SAFE-motorshop in Rotterdam. I checked our local dealers and they are not very helpful when you ask for parts for an "inoffical" Honda. I found it really hard to get informations what is in the HONDALINE for the PC800. I live near Frankfurt and I think Rotterdam is not so far away from us. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'pc800'" Subject: Carb jetting report Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:10:01 -0800 Picked up the bike after work last night. It was 35 degree F and pouring rain -- not a good night for a test drive though I did manage to stretch the ride home to 40 miles. The Shop: --------------- Service Manager: Tom Sill Lake City Honda-Sea Doo-Kawasaki 12048 Lake City Way NE Seattle, WA 98125 206-364-1372 The Changes (from mechanic's notes): ---------------------- We skipped beveling of the carb throat. The mechanic, Tom, thought it would work but on closer inspection the boot that mounts the air filter already gives a smooth air-flow transition. Main jets: front from 125 to 128, rear from 122 to 125 Slow jets: front from 42 to 45, rear from 38 to 40 2 hole slide, 1 jet drill size larger on one hole 1 shim under needle Mixture screws 2 1/2 out Cost: $141 includes parts/labor Translation: ------------------- I don't know enough about carburetion to explain all this. \"/ My impressions: -------------------------- The bike warmed up much faster as Tom expected it would. I only had to run the choke for a minute or two. Throttle response was much smoother and the "sputtering" at 2000 rpm I would often get when running cool was gone. On the road the bike accelerated faster and smoother. Most noticeable effect is a more powerful low and mid range. Something I was not prepared for is the rolling off the throttle is smoother now and the bike doesn't decelerate nearly as fast -- it just glides along smoothly. I'm sure a passenger on the back will have a less lurching ride. If I had to say it all in one word I'd say the bike is "peppy". Not CBR900RR peppy but hungrier for speed than it was before. Still needs testing: -------------------------- Tom asked me to come back in after a couple hundred miles so he could check the plugs. He said if things were done right there should be a brown ring on the plugs ceramic. If it's wrong there line will be dirty or white. He said different bikes do different things so if changes are needed he'll do them -- free of charge. I filled up the tank once I got home so I'll be able to get a better feel for how all this effects gas mileage. I was getting 35-40 and 20k miles ago I was 40-45. Tom thinks the combination of cleaning the carbs, rejetting, and changing the mixture should improve things. I've got some plans this weekend so I'll have to wait till next week to really try things out. More later. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:53:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: "'pc800'" Subject: Re: Carb jetting report Your mods sound interesting, Bryce. Please keep us informed. Thanks. BTW, what is the 5-6 pages of gibberish that I get at the end of this message? Its happened a few times before. Just curious. Richard Hardy, San Diego On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Bryce Ulrich wrote: > Picked up the bike after work last night. It was 35 degree F and pouring > rain -- not a good night for a test drive though I did manage to stretch the > ride home to 40 miles. > > The Shop: > --------------- > Service Manager: Tom Sill > Lake City Honda-Sea Doo-Kawasaki > 12048 Lake City Way NE > Seattle, WA 98125 > 206-364-1372 > > The Changes (from mechanic's notes): > ---------------------- > We skipped beveling of the carb throat. The mechanic, Tom, thought it would > work but on closer inspection the boot that mounts the air filter already > gives a smooth air-flow transition. > > Main jets: front from 125 to 128, rear from 122 to 125 > Slow jets: front from 42 to 45, rear from 38 to 40 > 2 hole slide, 1 jet drill size larger on one hole > 1 shim under needle > Mixture screws 2 1/2 out > > Cost: $141 includes parts/labor > > Translation: > ------------------- > I don't know enough about carburetion to explain all this. \"/ > > My impressions: > -------------------------- > The bike warmed up much faster as Tom expected it would. I only had to run > the choke for a minute or two. Throttle response was much smoother and the > "sputtering" at 2000 rpm I would often get when running cool was gone. On > the road the bike accelerated faster and smoother. Most noticeable effect > is a more powerful low and mid range. Something I was not prepared for is > the rolling off the throttle is smoother now and the bike doesn't decelerate > nearly as fast -- it just glides along smoothly. I'm sure a passenger on > the back will have a less lurching ride. If I had to say it all in one word > I'd say the bike is "peppy". Not CBR900RR peppy but hungrier for speed than > it was before. > > Still needs testing: > -------------------------- > Tom asked me to come back in after a couple hundred miles so he could check > the plugs. He said if things were done right there should be a brown ring > on the plugs ceramic. If it's wrong there line will be dirty or white. He > said different bikes do different things so if changes are needed he'll do > them -- free of charge. > > I filled up the tank once I got home so I'll be able to get a better feel > for how all this effects gas mileage. I was getting 35-40 and 20k miles ago > I was 40-45. Tom thinks the combination of cleaning the carbs, rejetting, > and changing the mixture should improve things. > > I've got some plans this weekend so I'll have to wait till next week to > really try things out. More later. > > -bryceu > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 > Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA > '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > Visit the PC800 web page at > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a > message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. > To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "'Richard A. Hardy'" , "'pc800'" Subject: Gook at end of email (was Carb jetting report) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:59:22 -0800 I think the giberish is a file attachment that isn't being translated as a file on your system. I'm using Microsoft Exchange (beta) which support rich-text formatting within email message. Bold, font sizes, colors, bullets, etc. Because Exchange can't tell what system will be receiving a message it sends both a simple text version as well as a rich-text copy. Roger Prince noticed this too and sees a file at the end called WINMAIL.DAT. I don't see anything in the interface that can block it -- must be a server control/setting. I've got some friends in the Exchange support group and will find out the details and what options I have to block them and/or tell others what they can do to recieve them. I'm not doing anything fancy but the system wants to act that way. -bryceu ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Richard A. Hardy[SMTP:c601rah@sssd.navy.mil] Sent: Friday, February 23, 1996 2:53 PM To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: 'pc800' Subject: Re: Carb jetting report BTW, what is the 5-6 pages of gibberish that I get at the end of this message? Its happened a few times before. Just curious. Richard Hardy, San Diego ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Summary on Email Etiquette Proposal.... Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:06:07 -0800 Well I've received a handful of resonses. All seem in favor of some structure but don't want any hard/fast rules that would bog things down. Sidney says he wasn't as strong toungued as he may have sounded nor was I. Synopsis: If you think about organizing something, please do! Let the others know to reply direct and that you'll summarize for all to see later. Everyone wants to continue to hear great things about the PC, enjoy other's trip reports, and socialize. Keep it up! -bryceu >---------- >From: Bryce Ulrich >Sent: Thursday, February 22, 1996 1:04 PM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu; 'Sidney.S.Letter@Dartmouth.EDU' >Subject: PC800 Email Etiquette Proposal.... > >>RE: If you can't call off your trips, then use snailmail or >>at least direct email to plan them. >> >>Sid Letter, Lebanon, NH > >------------- >I can't quite tell if there was sarcasm or if this was a legitimate >request. >I too prefer to keep the inbox small and will get jealous of >warmer/drier >climates. But at the same time I see a legitimate need for the PC800 >list to >be a place for trip organization and from time to time some good ol' >gloating. We're all proud of our bikes, the places we live, who we >ride >with, etc and these things should be shared. The Norheast will have >great >riding weather again, Alaska will build a few more roads, and the CA >sun >will go away -- someday. (Keep the faith!) And as an avid reader I >wanna >hear all about it! > >If we are looking to make a rule here then I would propose >*advertising* a >group ride on the PC800 list but leaving the details and further >organizational details to offline email exchanges. Once the ride takes >place a trip report would be send to the list for all to admire. > >For example, I would send mail to PC800 saying I have a Seattle Rain >Ride >this coming weekend. Everyone interested in going, getting more >details, or >feels a bit jealous emails me back directly. I respond to individuals >as >appropriate. The day before the ride I post a status report to the >PC800 >list just to say the ride is still on, who's going, and how much great >riding we'll be doing. After the ride a trip report for the list would >probably follow -- that's where the gloating will come in. > >Look OK? Please send your comments direct to me, bryceu@microsoft.com, >and >I'll compile and forward to the list once I have a consensus. > >Oh yea, get the bike back tonight with the carburetor modifications. I >told >the mechanic the "world want's to know" his secrets (even Holland). >He's >promised to give me all the details as long as I don't share them with >the >other Seattle Honda shops and take his business. Full report will >follow as >soon as I get a chance to really ride the bike. > >-bryceu > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 >Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA >'89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 >---------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 23 Feb 96 20:37:53 EST From: Steve Schibuola <73414.466@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Meltdown...OUCH!!! Hi, Ron. You wrote: >So has anyone noticed even MINOR problems with Rifle? I've had mine for a couple of months in "sunny" Southern California (it actually rained TWO days in a row! How depressing!), and have seen absolutely NO signs of sun-damage. On the other hand, I cover the bike at home and it sits in a structure at work; but I've been on a few day long sunny rides with no effect. Also, what's a good height - I'm 5'10"? I'm also 5'10". I initially got the +4" (ie. the middle one they offer) and found it too high - I like looking over the shield rather than through it (and in Hawaii, I think you would too). I switched to the +2" and it's just fine. I can comfortably look over the top, and get a nice, soft breeze on the face (turbulence starts about two inches over my head). On blustery days on the superslab, I can slouch comfortably, look through the shield, and get no wind-buffeting at all. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 23 Feb 96 20:37:58 EST From: Steve Schibuola <73414.466@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Trip report; San Gabriel ride Hi, Harrison - great writeup on our trip! My mail server has been down for a few days, so I'm only now getting to read it. Well done. You wrote: >Perhaps I'm obsessing about these lights :-). The priority lights seem to work just fine :-). I can tell the rest of you folks that this is true! I rode in 3rd position most of the way, behind Harrison's bike with the priority lights and Jeff's which doesn't have them, so I had a direct with-and-without view. The amber running lights define the back of the bike much better than the stock set-up, making it even appear a little bigger than it is. And that little flashing-sequence when the brakes are applied is a real attention-getter. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:49:37 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: edjohns@azstarnet.com (Philip E. (Ed) Johnson) Subject: Any suggestions? I use my bike for many short trips around home, like to the supermarket, bank, hardware store, meetings, etc. I therefore use the trunk a lot to carry odds and ends. I'm beginning to tire of having to use the key to open the flap over the trunk latch, then pull the latch with one hand and pick up the trunk cover with the other. It's awkward to impossible with something in my hands. I don't need the security of a locked trunk, so I'm thinking of relocating the trunk latch to somewhere outside the locked pocket. Perhaps attaching it to the inside of the rail on the passenger seat? Does anyone have any experience or suggestions? Also, I just completed arrangements to take a trip with Pancho Villa Moto Tours out of El Paso. I leave from Nogales Arizona, about 60 miles from home, on 3/11; then into Mexico to San Carlos, near Guaymas, the Copper Canyon, Mazatlan, and then by ferry across to the Baja. Then Loreto, San Quintin, Ensenada, and end the trip on March 26 in San Diego. Sixteen days, 2100 miles. I'm really looking forward to it. I've taken two trips with Pancho Villa before. Skip Mascorro, who owns it, is great. One started at McAllen, TX and went well into Colonial Mexico, getting a little further South than Mexico City. The other was a shorter loop from Juarez into Chihuahua, which also included the Copper Canyon train ride, but from that end. That one was just eight days, I think. Lots of fun. I'll report on the trip to the Baja when I return. Shiny side up- Ed Johnson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:19:05 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Trunk Ed Regarding opening the trunk with both hands, there's a simple solution for (I think all) PCs. If you open the trunk, you can see the when closed the trunk rests on rubber bumpers in the trunk lid and metal bases in the enclosure above the wheel. The metal bases are actually screws. By loosening the screws a few turns, they rise and press against the rubber bumpers enough when closed to allow the trunk to pop open a bit when the latch is turned. You have to experiment to see how high to raise the screws avoid overstressing the trunk while still allowing it to pop open. I'm also told that the rubber bumpers themselves can be unscrewed a bit for more adjustability, but I've never been able to turn them. I gave up on this whole scheme, however, because I noticed over time that the arrangement compressed and it was necessary to keep raising the screws a bit every few months. I didn't like the way things were progressing. I did alot of 2-up riding at first and this may have accelerated the problem. Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHamltn@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:19:16 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Etiquette For those of you envious of So. Cals weather, remember we also have those lovely freeways with average speeds of 20 mph and brown air. Getting to any roads worth riding usually takes traversing said freeways for quite awhile. Am I going to trade for Juan's more northerly climes? I don't think so! Jeff Hamilton ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:32:02 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Cant Read PC800 Mods Bryceu, I to can not read the download. I have tried three different word proccessor to no avail. I have a Mac. That may be the problem. Is it possible to post it any other way? Chris ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 09:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Michael A Jones Subject: Re: Any suggestions? To: "Philip E. (Ed) Johnson" Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu I wish I also had an answer to Ed's problem of too few hands at times in opening the trunk. I hope someone has a good solution to offer. Meanwhile, can we get the address/phone # of Panch Villa Moto Tours? I'd like to contact them about possible future tours. Michael Jones ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:04:08 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: PC800s--Scooters in disguise? Re: The listers' chatting back and forth about some of the comments heard about their 800cc steeds. (I private-posted this @ first--thought I'd share it with one and all) I was in a gas station one day...a guy comes up to me and sez "That's really a beautiful scooter." To which I reply (with just a hint of sarcasm) "Yeah, it's the only scooter made with an 800cc engine". His response? "Wow! That's as big as some motorcycles!" Go figure. Tim Portland, OR timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:45:19 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Mind Games A while back someone asked that if the PC were though of as a car, what car would come to mind? I believe the most agreed upon vehicle was a "sport wagon," a la BMW 535i Touring, or the Volvo 850 Turbo Wagon. Now I ask: If you saw the PC as a _dog_ , what breed would it be? Enjoy! : - ) Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Spring must be coming... it was only -30 last night!" Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:29:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard A. Hardy" To: Bryce Ulrich Cc: "'pc800'" Subject: Re: Gook at end of email (was Carb jetting report) Thanks for the feedback, Bryce. Mine also says "WINMAIL.DAT". Richard Hardy ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 24 Feb 96 20:30:37 EST From: "Cory S. Estes" <103342.3616@compuserve.com> To: PC800 List Subject: Re: Dog? (Was "Mind Games") Dog? Juan, you gotta be kiddin' bro!!!! The PC a DOG? Folks, my good friends on the List, let's have a moment of silence in memory of poor Juan's mind.....which he's finally lost. A eulogy......Juan's mind.......uhm, well, ahhhh.......oh boy, what can you say? Hell, he's probably better off without that thing, all it did was burn up a lot of energy anyway. The sad part about all of this is that I understood what he as getting at and I had an almost immediate answer. Scary, isn't it! It's really easy, for the following reasons. A PC: is WHITE (at least a TRUE PC is!) is friendly, bouncy, and fun is faithful and protective is compact and well-proportioned is pleasing to the eye is solid and sturdy with little fat requires little more maintenance than a bit of TLC can handle an amazing load will go and go all day and still be ready for more The PC is A Samoyed (Gee, after all that intro did I spell it right?) No doubt in my mind about it. Cory "Traveling Turtle" '89 Honda Pacific Coast "Millenium Turtle" '82 Honda FT-500 Ascot ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: TedJ101@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 06:30:50 -0500 To: siegel@main.com, pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Interest in pc800 In a message dated 96-02-18 14:29:10 EST, siegel@main.com (Siegel) writes: > have two questions , is the pc800 large enough for me , and what is the >market now for used and new pc800's? > > Hans, I am 54 and about your size. The PC is definitely large enough. Yes, I agree about the windshield being too short, but the answer is a Rifle windshield (they come in a variety of heights and my wife uses two upper shields -- a lower one in the summer and a higher one for cold weather). The Rifle shields eliminate the dash melting problem. The prices you have been quoted locally on new machines are too high (straight list). You can do better. PC's seem to hold their value very well. As a result, I prefer to buy new. (I bought a new 1995 model for my wife last year at $7100). Good luck! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:18:32 +0100 (MET) From: Sebastiaan Kruit To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Films where a PC has a (little) role Yesterday watched a rerun on tv of Harley-Davidson and th Marlboro man and almost dropped out of my chair :)) About half way the film one of them is chased on his bike by a police-bike, it think you get it: IT WAS A PC!! Ok, it had some mods, most of them big flashing lights, but it was a PC alright. Does anyone know other movies that feature our beloved bikes? I think it'll be nice to make a little list to add to the archives and to watch those movies also. Bas ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 25 Feb 96 12:09:33 EST From: "Dana L. Sawyer" <71430.340@compuserve.com> To: HondaPacificCoastOwners Subject: PC police bikes Someone on the list mentioned a PC in a commercial, movie or something. Along that line, here's an interesting tidbit...Several years ago my wife, daughter and I were returning to South Carolina from our national rally at Kerrville, Texas. We stopped at some small town in Alabama to get some gas and lunch. Unknown to us, there was a Honda dealer at that exit, and, while we getting off our bikes, a policeman directed us around the corner to the shop (no, we hadn't broken the law or anything!) He just wanted to show us his PC outfitted with all the goodies for police work...radio, blue light, siren, etc.! He even let Lynn and I ride it! We went for a short spin down the highway...neat! I have some photos of the officer and his bike in one of my photo albums. I'll have to look them up... ******************************************* DANA L. SAWYER Founder, Executive Committee Member and South Carolina State Director HSTA Member #0001 HRCA Member #700266 AMA Life Member # 180901 71430.340@Compuserve.Com "Life is short...I think I'll go riding!" ****************************************** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Sebastiaan Kruit CC: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: Re: Films where a PC has a (little) role From: Jason L Tibbitts III Date: 25 Feb 1996 13:17:02 -0600 Lines: 10 >>>>> "SK" == Sebastiaan Kruit writes: SK> Does anyone know other movies that feature our beloved bikes? Back to the Future II; one rides by in the first big future scene with all of the weird cars and such. There are still frames of this and the movie you mentioned at the web site. The URL is at the bottom of this (and every) message. Check it out. - J< ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: "pc800@hpc.uh.edu" , "'KlassC@aol.com'" Subject: RE: Cant Read PC800 Mods Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:28:53 -0800 You should have recieved my message in a readable text form. If you are referring to the file attachment at the end of the message, that's some rich-text version of the same message. No additional info in there. Reply back direct if you couldn't read anything in the message and I'll send another copy. As far as the attachment goes, I'm getting details from our Microsoft Exchange support group on what is is and how others can view these attachments. -bryceu >---------- >From: KlassC@aol.com[SMTP:KlassC@aol.com] >Sent: Saturday, February 24, 1996 9:32 AM >To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Cant Read PC800 Mods > >Bryceu, > >I to can not read the download. I have tried three different word >proccessor >to no avail. I have a Mac. That may be the problem. Is it possible >to post >it any other way? > >Chris >-- >Visit the PC800 web page at >To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe pc800" in the body of a >message to majordomo@hpc.uh.edu. >To report problems, send mail to pc800-owner@hpc.uh.edu. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:44:13 -0700 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: edjohns@azstarnet.com (Philip E. (Ed) Johnson) Subject: Responses to my Request for Ideas- Many thanks to several of you for your responses to my request for help in how to avoid needing three or more hands to open the trunk. Sorry, incidentally, that I did not check the archives, Juan. I used one of the Allen wrenches that came with the bike to raise the steel faces in the trunk, which the rubber buggy bumpers in the trunk lid contact. It just took about one turn to decrease the distance enough so that the trunk lid now pops up when I pull the latch, thus making it a one hand job. Slick. Michael, the address for Pancho Villa Moto Tours is 685 Persimmon Hill, Bulverde, TX 78163; 1-800-233-0564. If you call, I'm sure Skip will be glad to send you a folder with descriptions of all of his tours, and dates for the next year or so. Highly recommended! Thanks again, folks- Ed Johnson ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:51:53 -0400 From: "J. Burack" To: Ray Nielsen CC: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: stator problem? > Subj: Pacific Coast Trivia > Date: 96-01-30 23:14:54 EST > From: rnielsen@isd.net (Ray Nielsen) > We spoke of the hidden warranties Honda authorized for stator > problems, and the trunk liner/swing arm/tire replacement situation on > the 89s. There have been at least two different part numbers on the > stators; the replacement stator being of sturdier construction that > the one that failed in my 89 at about 35K miles.... Could anyone tell me the symptom of a stator problem? The electrical system on my '89 completely and suddenly died (while I was driving). I suspect(ed) the master fuse blew due to a short, but I haven't found the master fuse yet (I assume I need to remove the passenger seat.) The easy-to-access fuses near the left engine vent are OK. This problem was preceded by a dead battery a few weeks earlier. Help please? Thanks, - Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 26 Feb 96 07:27:36 EST From: Willem van Alderwerelt <101362.2633@compuserve.com> To: Kent Polk Cc: PC800 owners Subject: Fork braces? Hi Kent The other day I ran into an ad about fork braces. Actually they were called "fork stabilisators" (direct translation from Dutch), but I guess we are talking about the same. They are made by a British company called Micron for more than 130 different makes and models. The stabilisators are made for forks with a heart to heart distance from 160 to 210 milimeters and a diameter of 48 to 62 milimeters. The price in Holland is 175 guilders which is about $ 110. At the end of this week there will be a big bike show and I will try to get in contact with the Dutch importer or tomorrow by phone (they are closed on Monday) to get information about where Micron actually is located. Of course I will let you know the result. By the way are you still happy with the BMW wrist lock? After reading your write-ups in the archives I guess I'm going to give it a try. Willem van Alderwerelt 101362.2633@compuserve.com 1993: 1984 Honda V45 Magna =>1994: 1989 PC800 =>1995: 1995 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:18:23 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Shaffer Subject: Re: Mind Games To: "Juan A. Goula" cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Greetings All, Last year I picked up an '89 PC800 with only 900 miles! I would compare the Pacific Coast to a friendly Malumute or Husky. I'm looking forward to lots of good info from this mail list. Bye! Barry Shaffer (716) 679-3185 Grape Farm Mgmt.Specialist Fax (716) 679-3122 412 E. Main St. email:bshaffer@cce.cornell.edu Fredonia, NY 14063 CENET:bshaffer ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JTSMCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:33:41 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: stator problem? Hi Jeff: In a message dated 96-02-26 00:01:04 EST, you write: >Could anyone tell me the symptom of a stator problem? The electrical >system on my '89 completely and suddenly died (while I was driving). I >suspect(ed) the master fuse blew due to a short, but I haven't found the >master fuse yet (I assume I need to remove the passenger seat.) The >easy-to-access fuses near the left engine vent are OK. This problem was >preceded by a dead battery a few weeks earlier. Having never experienced a stator failure, I can't really say what the symptoms might be other than a failure to charge the battery and run the bike's electrics. The main fuse is colocated with the starter relay which is under the rider's seat. If the fuse is blown, then check for a short to ground somewhere. Obviusly, if there is a ground fault in the system, you'll have to find and fix it before replacing the fuse. If the fuse is OK, check your main system ground. My old Gold Wing quit dead on me once while riding. The problem turned out to be a poor battery ground due to some corrosion and a loose bolt holding the battery ground to the frame. The service manual says the following about checking the alternator: 1). Remove the left air duct/maintenance lid. [If you haven't done this before, it basically invovles pulling outward and backward at the rear of the duct until the clips at the front edge release, then remove it.) 2). Disconnect the alternator 6P (white) connector. 3). Measure the resistance between the yellow wire terminals and check for no continuity between each terminal and ground. The resistance should be between yellow wires 0.1 and 1.0 Ohms, and there should be no circuit to ground for any of the yellow wires. [Note: they specify some specific multimeters for this test, but I suspect that any good-quality multimeter on its lowest resistance scale would yield adequate results. If in doubt, I guess you would want to have the dealer check it] I hope this helps. JT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHO@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:10:04 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Meltdown...OUCH!!! I'm 6'1" and have the +4 Rifle. I find it very comfortable both in terms of protection and visibility. I almost always look over the top edge. And by the way, probably the only reason I didn't crack my shield from overtightening was because of Juan's warning, which I forgot to thank him for. Thanks, Juan. <> ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: KlassC@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:01:58 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Wrist Lock Could anyone tell me about the BMW wrist lock. I have looked through the web pages and only found the wrist saver. Though I was not able to understand what that was as well. I am assuming that they are both cruise locks for highway driving. Could anyone give me any more info? Or point me in the right direction? I am checking out my options for adding a radio. I am thinking about an in-dash model using the 4 inch cutouts for the speakers. Kenwood makes a line of marine radios. But they also just came out with a 20x4 watt constant (35 peak) radio. Sony makes a few with wired remotes. After I get all the info I will let you know. Any ideas would be great. I haven't found a way to add a rpm compisator (raises and lowers the volume based on rpm). Chris 95 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:34:09 -0800 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: Spencer Farrow Subject: Pricing Question - '94,'95,'96? Cc: cathy.farrow@corp.sun.com Hi Folks - I might soon actually be in the market for a *new* (or new-ish) PC! (Yea!!) If my search for an appropriate 4-wheeler (aka "cage") is unsuccessful, I've decided to just bite the bullet and actually buy a PC for She Who Must Be Obeyed, my cute little pillion-ornament and wife, Cathy. I found on the Web page what I think are the MSRP's for the 1994 and 1995 models (but not the '96), which are: 1994 - $6,495 1995 - $7,698 The question is: Are these correct? What is the '96 price? And for those of you who've bought new PC's, what did you actually pay for them? Thanks for the assistance - Spencer Spencer Farrow '86 Concours - The Grey Ghost COG # 2014 AMA # 606675 sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:06:32 -0500 From: Jeff Leech To: PC 800 User Group Subject: Prices for PC-800's Spencer Farrow had a question on prices for New, or nearly new PC's. He listed List Price as: '94 = $6495 '95 = $7698 Which is about what I can find. I think the '96 List is $8599 I bought my '94 New in Nov 93 for $5995, just before a price increase. The list was going up to about $6700. I have just seen a dealer in south eastern Indiana who has a New '95 on sale for $6950. If you can find a '95, they will most likely be discounted due to the color change for '96. Jeff Leech Centerville, OH ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:36:11 -0500 To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Wes St.Onge" Subject: Spring Ride AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! It wasn't much of a ride as rides go, but it was a *ride*. The temperature was in the mid 40's, but the sun was warm, the sky was clear and I had to get out !!! I think this is the beginning of my fourth year riding (again), and I'm glad I took the MSF/ERC course two years ago. Last spring and this spring, I am very much aware how much more "natural" it feels to get on the bike and confidently (more or less) make that downhill...stop ....turn sharp (almost backwards) right up the hill on the state highway without crossing over into the oncoming lane (you HAVE to in the car). The first two years this was almost bad enough to make me pull out and turn left for a few hundred yards to a "safer" area to reverse my direction. --- Wes St.Onge Maryland, NY AMA 359009 Age 52 1 son, 2 daughters, 5 grandsons 89 Pacific Coast (for sale) 86 GL1200i Zone 2, Hudson Highlands Area Retreads M/C Coordinator --- --- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHO@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:29:49 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Meltdown...OUCH!!! >>>But what is your inseam measurement????? Height alone is NOT sufficient when you're talking about a SEATED measurement!<<< Seriously? I think it's 34". ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: JeffHO@aol.com Cc: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Meltdown...OUCH!!! <960227092948_232357623@mail06.mail.aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:53:15 -0800 From: Andrew Beals > >>>But what is your inseam measurement????? Height alone is NOT sufficient > when you're talking about a SEATED measurement!<<< > > Seriously? I think it's 34". Seriously. People are built differently. Some have longer legs than others, some have longer trunks than others. -- Andy Beals, (408) 526-8838 MS: SJ-F2 with BSMTP id 2765; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:30:42 PST BSMTP id 6611; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:30:42 PST ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:08:48 PST From: Mark Grillo Subject: mew subscriber To: PC800@hpc.uh.edu Hi, my name is Mark Grillo, I live in Pullman, WA. That's located in the southeastern region of the state. Bought my PC800 on 5/95 with 12k mi. for $3200. I installed the taller Honda windshield. Other than having to replace the battery, I believe it was the original, have had no serious problems. Used mainly for 1-2 day trips two-up and trunk loaded. Bike was originally purchased in New Hampsire and driven here by owner. One nagging problem I've been noticing is the engine stubbeling under load going up hills. Going to try some jetting changes this spring. Mark Grillo grillo@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:18:35 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:18:35 -0800 To: Mark Grillo , PC800@hpc.uh.edu From: dkgross@halcyon.com (David Gross) Subject: Re: mew subscriber gongrats mark! if ya find yourself in the seattle area, give us a buzz..also, there's a service tech at Lake City Honda that we can recommend to do the jet work on your bike...ask Bryce for details. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Dave Gross and Baron George Von Helldog {WOOF} "Ain't nuthin but the dog in me..." dkgross@halcyon.com _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:57:02 -0800 From: SCI To: David Gross CC: Mark Grillo , PC800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Re: mew subscriber David Gross wrote: > > gongrats mark! > > if ya find yourself in the seattle area, give us a buzz..also, there's a > service tech at Lake City Honda that we can recommend to do the jet work on > your bike...ask Bryce for details. I'm looking to buy a used PC800 in the Seattle area. Any suggestions of a honest/fair dealer? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: David Gross , "'SCI'" Cc: Mark Grillo , "PC800@hpc.uh.edu" Subject: RE: mew subscriber Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:50:57 -0800 Ooohhh that's a tough one. Finding a used PC800 is hard enough let alone finding a nice sales guy. I bought mine at Everett Honda. Salesman was a bit of a flake but I talked him up on my trade-in (above what I paid for it) and was done with it. So far in my dealings I've liked the sales people (not the same as Service/Parts) at Lynwood Cycle Barn, Everett, and Renton. I definately don't like University Honda. Of course others opinions will vary -- ask three people and you'll hear three different things. But again, you have to find a used one so don't let the dealer dictate where you'll look. Service is what you'll what to find in a dealer we can talk that over later. Keep us informed. There's a decent sized Seattle/Portland/Bremerton PC800 rider group on this alias. Send me your name, us mail address, email address, phone, and I'll add you to my mailing list for local rides. -bryceu ---------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp, Redmond, WA '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198/HRCA HM711115/HSTA 6140 ---------------------------------------------------------- >---------- >From: SCI[SMTP:sci@wolfenet.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 1996 9:57 AM >To: David Gross >Cc: Mark Grillo; PC800@hpc.uh.edu >Subject: Re: mew subscriber > > >I'm looking to buy a used PC800 in the Seattle area. Any suggestions >of a >honest/fair dealer? > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:35:13 -0900 (AKST) To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: "Juan A. Goula" Subject: Responses to my Request for Ideas- At 03:44 PM 2/25/96 -0700, you wrote: >Many thanks to several of you for your responses to my request for help in >how to avoid needing three or more hands to open the trunk. Sorry, >incidentally, that I did not check the archives, Juan. Ed, I did not mean to sound like I did. I merely offered the option of the archives sort of like at the end of PBS specials: "To read more about xyz, visit the Library of Congress" I am more than happy to help if I can. >I used one of the Allen wrenches that came with the bike to raise the steel >faces in the trunk, which the rubber buggy bumpers in the trunk lid >contact. It just took about one turn to decrease the distance enough so >that the trunk lid now pops up when I pull the latch, thus making it a one >hand job. Slick. I am concerned about this technique. Don't these allen bolts hold the trunk to the sub-frame? Wouldn't want to loosen those, yes? : - ) Later! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 22:48:56 UT From: "Roger Prince" To: "Juan A. Goula" , pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Responses to my Request for Ideas- I have replaced a few sets of the rubber bumpers that pop the trunk open. If you ride with a passenger frequently, you will find that you will too. They need to be unscrewed for adjustment. They will unscrew but don't spray them with silicone. Once they are adjusted the trunk will pop up enough to stay unlatched on its own. Unfortunately the rubbers will crush and bend and eventually crack from the weight of a passenger. The screws you are tightening definitely help to attach the trunk to the frame. What I have done is glue some hard rubber blocks to those screws which allow me to keep the bumpers screwed in. Washers with a small hole to allow access to the screw's allen slot would also work. Honda's idea was ok except their execution didn't allow for weight. These rubbers are commonly used on auto hoods but nobody (usually) sits on the hood. It takes some experimenting to get the spacer size right but it's worth it. My solution has worked reasonably well for me but I've always wished I could have come up with a better solution. ________________________________________________________________ *ROGER PRINCE 1990 PC800, 1995 PC800 *HSTA 23----HRCA 700096----AMA 759083 *PAcificCoastman PACman 3PCman ________________________________________________________________ ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: owner-pc800@hpc.uh.edu on behalf of Juan A. Goula Sent: Thursday, February 29, 1996 2:35 AM To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Responses to my Request for Ideas- At 03:44 PM 2/25/96 -0700, you wrote: >Many thanks to several of you for your responses to my request for help in >how to avoid needing three or more hands to open the trunk. Sorry, >incidentally, that I did not check the archives, Juan. Ed, I did not mean to sound like I did. I merely offered the option of the archives sort of like at the end of PBS specials: "To read more about xyz, visit the Library of Congress" I am more than happy to help if I can. >I used one of the Allen wrenches that came with the bike to raise the steel >faces in the trunk, which the rubber buggy bumpers in the trunk lid >contact. It just took about one turn to decrease the distance enough so >that the trunk lid now pops up when I pull the latch, thus making it a one >hand job. Slick. I am concerned about this technique. Don't these allen bolts hold the trunk to the sub-frame? Wouldn't want to loosen those, yes? : - ) Later! Juan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Juan A. Goula School of Fisheries & Ocean Sciences University of Alaska Fairbanks AMA # 532390 \\\\ HSTA # 4995RG 1990 Honda PC800 \\\\ 1993 Arctic Cat Panther DLX ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 23:25:29 UT From: "Roger Prince" To: "pc800" Subject: who who pc800 end ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:26:33 -1000 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu From: reap@pixi.com (Ronald E. Pacholec) Subject: Re: stator problem? >Hi Jeff: > >In a message dated 96-02-26 00:01:04 EST, you write: > >>Could anyone tell me the symptom of a stator problem? The electrical >>system on my '89 completely and suddenly died (while I was driving). I >>suspect(ed) the master fuse blew due to a short, but I haven't found the >>master fuse yet (I assume I need to remove the passenger seat.) The >>easy-to-access fuses near the left engine vent are OK. This problem was >>preceded by a dead battery a few weeks earlier. > >Having never experienced a stator failure, I can't really say what the >symptoms might be other than a failure to charge the battery and run the >bike's electrics. > I had a stator problem on my 89PC. I bought it about a year ago with 11K miles on it. It worked fine for about 4 months. Then in August I was at the beach and when I tried to start the bike, nothing happened. The PC is very easy to push start and I was able to get home, but at home I couldn't restart the motor. I recalled that the 4 or 5 times before the failure it took the bike a little longer to start, but this was barely noticeable. I first thought it might be a fuse or battery problem. I bought a new battery since I had to replace the battery several times on my Sabre, and I wasn't sere how old the current battery was. After using the bike several times, the new battery also failed. So, I took the bike into the Honda dealer. They said that the stator was corroded, and that this was not uncomkmon and they had seen the same thing on other PC's with fewer miles than mine. They replaced the alternator and fortunately told me that the rest of the bike was in great shape. *My brother's theory* (he was an engineer at Ford) is that if the bike is not used much and mostly for short trips SO2 from the gasoline reacts with water from combustion and forms H2SO4. This sulphuric acid accumulates in the oil if the engine doesn't get hot enough to burn it off. Since the stator is oil bathed, it corrodes. Thus, as the Honda shop observed, this seems to happen on older low mileage bikes. It was fairly expensive to get a new alternator installed. Since then I have had no problems. I hope this helps. Aloha, Ron ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Timmacy@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 03:23:43 -0500 To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu Subject: Is Erin Out There? Hey, Erin Dolin down Stanford way! I tried to private-post back at you with some more pithy wisdom and it got shot back at me. Maybe it was more pithy or less wise than I thought! I was looking for ya on the list to see what I did wrong, but haven't seen you lately. Shoot something back at me & I'll see what happened. Thanks, Tim Portland, OR timmacy@aol.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:06:13 PST From: "Erin Dolin" To: pc800@hpc.uh.edu, timmacy@aol.com Subject: Yes, I'm here! REPLY TO 02/29/96 00:24 FROM Timmacy@aol.com: PC800: Is Erin Out There? Hi Tim, Are you sure that it wasn't the Portland weather that you actually shot this way and not the pithy wisdom? It's starting to look more and more like the Pacific Northwest around here with rain, floods and snow. Actually, Stanford's server has been in a bit of a quandry lately. It's not quite sure this week if it wants to take a vacation. I've been having lots o' problems either sending or receiving so I'm not surprised that you're having problems too. Not to mention that we actually, dare I say it, still have pretty prehistoric mainframe capabilities for our e-mail system. You'd think that the technology would be better, especially here, but alas... Try posting again and hopefully I'll get it this time. Take care, Erin Dolin Mountain View, CA Erin.Dolin@forsythe.stanford.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: Timmacy@aol.com cc: PC800@HPC.UH.EDU