********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 95 08:09:02 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: AMA Race Results Does anybody know the results of the AMA races held at Laguna Seca this past weekend? Roger Prince ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: fuel vapor leak (from Jason L Tibbitts III ) (at Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:52:40 -0500) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 95 08:36:24 CST Hi Jason (Jason L Tibbitts III), in <9505010352.AA03449@tcamc.uh.edu> on Apr 30 you wrote: > KP> Question: Does the Honda repair manual indicate anything associated > KP> with the fuel pump that needs maintenance (after 40k miles) or could be > > Well, I would suspect the evap system if you had the California model. Don't believe I have the CA model. > Assuming the smell is coming from the carb/engine area instead from around > the tank, I'd suspect the several connections around the fuel cutoff valve > or the carbs, which you checked. The manual doesn't mention anything > special. Ok. I also checked for fuel dripping on hot objects that would vaporize it and couldn't find anything there either. Gas mileage hasn't noticably dropped, so it's not acting like a fuel leak. Thanks Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 01 May 95 09:49:21 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: fuel vapor leak > My PC800 recently developed a fuel vapor leak... Mine does exactly the same thing. I think it's comming from the fuel filler cap. The tank seems to be pressurized; I get a small hiss when I open the cap to refuel. I'm guessing that the seal on the cap has aged, and is letting some vapor out. Must need a new gasket or something. Let me know what you find out. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:29:06 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: AMA Race Results >Does anybody know the results of the AMA races held at Laguna Seca >this past weekend? >Roger Prince > Rained/fogged out after 7 laps, to be continued (?) today. (The weather a bit north of there hasn't improved much....) Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:46:28 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: HD & the Marlboro Man Based on an earlier posting, I rented the movie and watched for the cameo appearance by the PC. Yes, it was definitely there. The producers dressed up an '89 with police insignia and some extra lights front and rear and included about a 1 minute chase scene. I hope to be able to capture a frame or two and possibly a .mpeg video clip for inclusion in the web page. Does anybody out there know any thing about the legal implications or have any ideas on how to get permission to reproduce. Part of me thinks that as long as I cite my source and only use a small percentage of the original work, that I am OK. The other part of me thinks that in either the opening or closing credits that there is some language forbidding any reproduction without express...blah, blah, blah. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:46:29 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: http://www.cecm.sf... It looks as if you've been to my web page. Let me know how you found about it and what you thought. Under support organizations there is a reference to the PC800 mailing list. It is just what you are looking for. You will probably get several points of view on your questions as long as they are reasonably specific. There are over 50 subscribers many of whom are owners but many are potential owners like yourself. If you have trouble subscribing to the email list, drop me a line and I'll help you out but I am hoping that what is on the web page is adequate. I have a '94 which is essentially the same as the '95 and I love mine. I have almost 7000 miles in about 9 months. See you on the list! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: fuel vapor leak From: SETH@dsi.Coded.COM (SETH MILLER) Date: 01 May 95 08:30:24 EDT > My PC800 recently developed a fuel vapor leak that I can't locate. I > started smelling it occassionally in the garage just after putting > the bike up, and now it's to the point I can smell it when stopped at > a light. I've pulled the carbs and there's no visible leak, the floats > are set right and I can't see anything else that may contribute. Now > I think I smell it more behind the fuel tank than anywhere else but > see no evidence of a leak. My '89 started doing exactly the same thing about 1 year ago at about 20,000 miles... and I mean *exactly* the same symptoms as described above. I also can find no evidence of any kind of leak whatsoever... (this has been driving me nuts..!) I hadn't sent anything to the list on this problem prior to this because I was "sure" that it was a one-of-a-kind type problem, since I had never seen it mentioned before... live and learn.. > Question: Does the Honda repair manual indicate anything associated > with the fuel pump that needs maintenance (after 40k miles) or could > be associated with a vapor leak? (I never bought a manual) I have the factory service manual supplement for the PC800, and while it is good overall there is nothing in there that I can find that would provide any clues to the problem. The carb float bowls are vented directly to the atmosphere (at least in the 49-state version), but I doubt that has anything to do with it because like in Kent's case, the problem didn't show up until the bike was a couple of years old... Anybody else have any ideas...? Thanks - - Seth ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:18:27 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: WTB: PC or ST1100 ... >I will part with my red 1990 if anyone is looking for one. >Perfect condition, 12,000 miles >some factory extras. >Has never missed a beat! >Best offer >E-Mail: GAGIII@aol.com I followed up on this but all I have to go on is my recollection. I think this one is in the NY area and he was looking for $4500.00. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:36:11 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: fuel vapor leak I smell gas from the tank of my '95 and have since I got it. Hadn't really thought too much about it. Is this common? Should I be worried? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 1 May 95 13:13:24 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Re: Forwarded: 1990 PC for sale ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/01/95 13:14 ## ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GAGIII@aol.com:dg-smtp Date: ## 04/26/95 18:52 ## I am the original owner. Purchased in 1992 new. It has 12,000 miles on it. Red in color. Has backrest, front mud flap, Aero windshield strip. Bike is located in Westchester, NY. As for the asking price, best offer, would like to get $4500 minimun. Can call me @ (212)229-0722 (work) George ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:09:46 -0700 From: cbesch@ix.netcom.com (Clayton Besch) Subject: Intro To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. Name: Clayton Besch Location: New York, NY Email: cbesch@ix.netcom.com PC Model Year: 1989 used Modifications: Corben seat, Rifle extended windscreen, cosmetic spoiler. General: Sport tourer thoughout the Northeast. Memeber of AMA, Astra, Honda ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:57:13 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: Intro Roger Prince wrote: >PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) >Bought Used/New: Both bought new (stuff deleted) >General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Roger - why the trade-in? Any bad habits forming or problems with the first bike? Just wondering - Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 web page? From: SETH@dsi.Coded.COM (SETH MILLER) Date: 02 May 95 14:49:20 EDT I believe I've seen several references on the list lately to a PC800 web page... if so, can somebody send me the address...? Thanks - - Seth (seth@dsi.coded.com) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 web page? Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 17:23:51 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "SM" == SETH MILLER writes: SM> I believe I've seen several references on the list lately to a PC800 SM> web page... It's http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/RMR/PC800.html It's pretty nice, though my 28.8Kbps SLIP link would really prefer interlaced GIFs for the pircures. Neill, I can convert them for you if you'd like. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 95 07:23:50 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: HSTA weekend The HSTA is havng a riding and social weekend this week, May 5-7, in Helen, GA. Headquarters is at Alpenhof South. All riders, all brands welcome. This event is the first of the season in the East and is usually well attended by those afflicted with cabin fever. Beautiful winding roads, good food, great people. HSTA has many events throughout the country during the riding season. The annual national event, STAR'95 (Sport Touring Association Rendezvous) is in Avon, CO, this year June 18-21. Roger Prince ps HSTA has over 80 PC800 members. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 95 07:31:52 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "andy"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Cc: "awl"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM, "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Front End $50 later my front end rattle and vibration are gone. Wheel bearings. Luckily I didn't work late and after deciding to go by the shop on the way home Chip said he wouldn't ride it anymore. Again, luckily he agreed to stay late after he determined he had the bearings in stock. The right one was the culprit, still full of grease. Just worn out. He didn't have seals but thinks, after loading them with grease, they'll be ok until the next tire change. I'm going to get the rears replaced when I do the rear tire next month. 75K is starting to take its toll. We leave for GA this afternoon. Roger WED@0730edt ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 03 May 95 08:59:24 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: HSTA weekend > The HSTA is havng a riding and social weekend this week... Will someone *please* tell me how the heck I can join the HSTA???? I've called and left messages many times, and sent email, all unanswered. Who do I contact, and how? Are they more responsive when it comes to road service? Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Front End (from Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM) (at Wed, 03 May 1995 07:31:52 -0400 (edt)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 3 May 95 08:49:51 CST Hi Roger_Prince (Roger_Prince), in <9505031231.AB00039@adam.WEBO.DG.COM> on May 03 you wrote: > $50 later my front end rattle and vibration are gone. Wheel bearings. My PC has been very hard on wheel bearings... No sure if it's me or what :^). The original front bearings went out after two years. It was a 90 which I bought out of the box in 92. Think the wheel bearings didn't take well to being boxed up that long :^( The front bearings and the right rear can be a bit hard to find as the shaft for them is oversized. Thus undersized balls also. I thinkk this is partly why they go out faster than normal wheel bearings. After 4 tire changes and 1 1/2 bearing changes later (and I'm getting ready to change the fronts out again), I decided that I need to swap out the fronts every other tire change. This is unheard of normally, but I can't seem to get the bearings I can to find to last much longer. I also don't think too highly of the two brands of bearings I have tried, but I haven't located anything else yet. IMHO, the PC should have had a normal-sized axle and a fork brace instead of this blasted oversized axle... Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 95 10:14:16 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Cc: "elbert"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Re: HSTA weekend ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/03/95 10:15 ## Road service? Are you asking about HRCA (Honda Rider's Club) or HSTA? HRCA call 1-800-847-4722. HSTA call 1-206-882-0224, email 71203,2774@compuserve, write to: HSTA, 9310 167th Ave NE, Redmond, WA 98052-3739. AMA 1-800-AMA-JOIN HSTA members have a club directory which lists services the individuals might provide, such as room, trailer, mechanical help, etc. SeeYa Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: m14494@caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org:dg-smtp Date: ## 05/03/95 09:58 ## > The HSTA is havng a riding and social weekend this week... Will someone *please* tell me how the heck I can join the HSTA???? I've called and left messages many times, and sent email, all unanswered. Who do I contact, and how? Are they more responsive when it comes to road service? Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 11:18:43 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 web page? On the picture formats...Technically, you are over my head. What is involved, what are the issues? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:27:15 -0400 From: JFMinyard@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Web page I finally got my first look at the PC800 web page last night :^). Great work, it shows a lot of promise. I hope we can fill in those blank areas with solid information soon. Congratulations Neill on a job well done :^) Jim Minyard ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 08:52:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Web page, Introduction I agree with Jim Minyard. The web page does show a lot of promise. So far I've accessed it with a text-only web browser and found enough information to make me come back to it on a regular basis. Hello everyone. I've just subscribed to the PC800 listserv. My name: Juan Antonio Goula Location: Fairbanks, Alaska email: jgoula@ims.alaska.edu PC Model: 1990 (red!) Bought: New in 1992 Mods: Current: Rifle windshield, hot grips, carpeted trunk. Planned: Radar detector, air horns, driving lamps + 100/65 watt bulb, CB (any insights on any of these mods would be welcome!). Any questions regarding riding in our beautiful state can be e-mailed directly to me. Cheers. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 15:39:25 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 and AOL on the Web Attention AOL users. (For HSTA members, this should be a partial duplication of an earlier message.) Late last week AOL released an early version of its latest Windows access software (Version 2.5 Preview). This new release includes a WWW browser. If you are a Windows AOL user, try keyword AOLPREVIEW and follow the instructions to upgrade your software. Once you have the new AOL version running, you might try connecting to the WWW browser in the Internet Connection area (or use keyword "WEB"). For the past year or so, I have been working on a Web page and now a number of you actually have access to it. The address is: http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/RMR/PC800.html Web pages are sort of like an electronic newsletter. My Web page details lots of resources of possible interest to PC800 enthusiasts. It includes some pictures with more to come! If you have access slower than 9600 bps, be prepared to wait for some stuff to be displayed. Even at 9600 or higher, performance may be somewhat sluggish so be patient. I have tried to put most of the pictures on pages by themselves (they take the most time to display!) so that you only have to look at them if you want to. Some of you have already commented on the content. All the comments have been favorable which is very much appreciated but I am also looking for sugges tions. Some of my goals: 1) add some or all of Kent's naked PC800 photos to the pictures section. 2) Capture the image of a PC800 as a cop bike from "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man" and add that to the pictures section. 3) Wade through the mailing list archives to pull together the collected wisdom on some of the hot topics such as tires and suspension. Any volunteers? Any other suggestions? I am still hoping to find the image of the PC800 as a traffic reporter bike. Maybe I'll don my nomex suit and try rec.motorcycles! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 and AOL on the Web From: SETH@dsi.Coded.COM (SETH MILLER) Date: 09 May 95 15:20:07 EDT > I am still hoping to find the image of the PC800 as a traffic reporter bike You probably have this lead already, but the picture was in either Cycle World or Motorcyclist (I think it was Motorcyclist) in some issue in '92 or '93. I know that's pretty broad, but it's the best I can remember. I definitely remember seeing the item, though. I believe the bike was in use somewhere in the (California) Bay Area. > Maybe I'll don my nomex suit and try rec.motorcycles! You will need all the flame protection you can get (from all those who believe the PC isn't a "real" motorcycle, and who, incidentally, tend to only ride their bikes on sunny weekend days because they have no storage, weather protection, etc... I guess "real" motorcyclists are those who don't commute on their bikes, but just ride them on weekends or up and down Main Street to look good...) Good luck in your search... - Seth seth@dsi.coded.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 21:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Grave Subject: Re: PC800 Web page, Introduction To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu On Tue, 9 May 1995, Juan Goula wrote: > PC Model: 1990 (red!) > Bought: New in 1992 > Mods: Current: Rifle windshield, hot grips, carpeted trunk. > Planned: Radar detector, air horns, driving lamps + 100/65 ^^^^^^^^^ I'd really like to hear some ideas on an air horn, too!! Thanks - Jeff Oh, BTW I've seen an "internet" abbreviation used on different postings, and I just can't figure it out. BTW = By the way. What does "IMHO" stand for? Duh... --- jdgrave@ccnet.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Web page, Introduction Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:14:06 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "JG" == Jeffrey Grave writes: JG> I'd really like to hear some ideas on an air horn, too!! I'm sure Kent will chime in on this eventually. He has something like five horns on his bike. For a disassembled view of his front fairing with big horns, pop into the ftp site at ftp://sina.tcamc.uh.edu/pub/pc800/images. JG> What does "IMHO" stand for? Duh... ROTFL! Why don't you RTFM! OK, it stands for In My Humble Opinion. Just a PhD with an MBA and a VCR, workin for the DOD, runnin BSD on a DX2, ridin a PC... --- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@tcamc.uh.edu - 713/743-8687 - 221SR1 System Admin: Texas Center for Advanced Molecular Computation 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 GM/CS/S d--- -p+ c++++ l++ u+++ e+ m---(++) n--- s/-- h* f+ g+ w+ t- r- y+** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 Web page, Introduction (from Jason L Tibbitts III ) (at Wed, 10 May 1995 00:14:06 -0500) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 May 95 08:46:40 CST Hi Jason (Jason L Tibbitts III), in <9505100514.AA22418@tcamc.uh.edu> on May 10 you wrote: > JG> I'd really like to hear some ideas on an air horn, too!! > > I'm sure Kent will chime in on this eventually. He has something like five > horns on his bike. For a disassembled view of his front fairing with big > horns, pop into the ftp site at ftp://sina.tcamc.uh.edu/pub/pc800/images. Ok, Ok. You twisted my arm :^) You might check the recent messages where I described how I installed a set of Fiamm air horns on the PC. They were your normal auto horns; $28 special or something like that, but they work great! And I redid the airhorns.jpg picture that is at that site. I somehow messed it up when cropping. I'll upload a better version RSN. I also have a couple of pictures of the Wrist Rest, but I can't get them scanned right now as the gal who does the scanning is on vacation. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 95 09:50:42 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 and AOL on the Web >Any other suggestions [for the PC800 web page]? Great start on a web page. I would like to see a list of accessories available for the PC, and sources for them; that would be a big help. Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 95 09:50:42 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Brake light flasher? Someone recently discussed a gizmo for the PC that flashes the brake lights a few times when you apply the brakes. I'd sure like to have one. Anyone know where I can get one and how much it costs? How hard is it to install? Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 95 09:13:30 PDT From: Ramin Keyvan To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Brake light flasher? Cc: sfarrow@radford.com > Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:50:42 -0400 (EDT) > From: m14494%caasd1@mwmgate1.mitre.org (Michael J White) > Subject: Brake light flasher? > To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu > > Someone recently discussed a gizmo for the PC that flashes the brake lights a > few times when you apply the brakes. I'd sure like to have one. Anyone know > where I can get one and how much it costs? How hard is it to install? Thanks. > > Hi there, I didn't catch the posting you refer to, but... Below is the information for a gizmo that a friend of mine has on both his ZX11's. The product is a snap to install and works as follows: 1. Both rear turn signals are always on at 1/2 illumination. 2. When the brakes are applied, both the turn signals and the brake light flash brightly several times before settling into a bright solid brake light and signal light combination. This approach is highly visible and really catches the eye during the flash cycle. The company he got the lites from is: Motorcycle Acessory 925 E. Filmore Colo. Springs CO 80907 (800) 241-2222 Product part number:20940 Product Name: SOS Priority Plus Lites Price per each: $50.95ea Shipping: 3.60 handling: 1.53 COD: 6.00 ------- Total: 62.08 Well, that's my two cents worth. Hope it's helpful. Cheers, Ramin Keyvan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:31:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Web page, Introduction On Tue, 9 May 1995, Jeffrey Grave wrote: > On Tue, 9 May 1995, Juan Goula wrote: > > > PC Model: 1990 (red!) > > Bought: New in 1992 > > Mods: Current: Rifle windshield, hot grips, carpeted trunk. > > Planned: Radar detector, air horns, driving lamps + 100/65 > ^^^^^^^^^ > I'd really like to hear some ideas on an air horn, too!! > > > Oh, BTW I've seen an "internet" abbreviation used on different postings, > and I just can't figure it out. BTW = By the way. What does "IMHO" > stand for? Duh... Jeff, IMHO = In My Humble Opinion Air Horns = There are two sub-frame members which support the front part of the fairing/headlamp assembly (appropriate, an "underwire" for a voluptuos (sp?) bike ;-) ) I *believe* that there is enough room in there to mount the compressor on the coolant tank side and the horns on the other side. I have not taken it apart yet though. I'll keep you updated on that. The only thing I don't like about this setup is that you have to snake the hose from side to side, which is quite a bit of length. I would really like to have a minimum of hose between the compressor and the horns (quickens the response time). Cheers. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:34:55 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Brake light flasher? On Wed, 10 May 1995, Michael J White wrote: > Someone recently discussed a gizmo for the PC that flashes the brake lights a > few times when you apply the brakes. I'd sure like to have one. Anyone know > where I can get one and how much it costs? How hard is it to install? Thanks. I belive I saw a gizmo like that in JC Whitney. Or was it one that turned your turn sgnals into running/brake lights? Can't remember, will check on that... ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:00 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800 and AOL on the Web PC's in the movies! Noticed that the movie Back To The Future II has a very short clip of a PC (white) riding by while they are in the "future" Hill Valley, CA. You just about have to have a VCR w/ slo-mo to catch it, though. Cory '89 PC (RoadMaster the Turtle) From owner-pc800 Wed May 10 12:22:16 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:20:56 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: PC800 and AOL on the Web Does anybody out there know if MotorWeek ever "tested" the PC? I know they did the Hondabago and the VFR but... Oh, and what episode was it? Thanks! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:49:55 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 and AOL on the Web (Michael J White) writes: >>Great start on a web page. I would like to see a list of accessories available for the PC, and sources for them; that would be a big help. Thanks.<< Just want to second the motion. My dealer has nothing. I hear about all these cool accessories, but I can't seem to find them. Also: is everyone out there besides me a mechanic, or are things like adding horns and lights and other electical accessories not as hard as it seems? How does one learn? >From a guy who bought his PC largely because it requires little of him mechanically. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:13 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Introduction Greetings, New to the group, so I guess an introduction is in order. Cory S. Estes P O Box 55802 North Pole, Alaska 99705-0802 (907) 488-5760 '89 PC (Righteous & Pure White!) Purchased, new, January 1991 in Plattsburgh, New York Name: "RM" (Stands for either RoadMaster or RainMagnet, depending.........) Accessories: Interior trunk light kit Rear upper spoiler Passenger back rest Trailer hitch (Haven't towed yet, though.) 100/55 halogen headlight HondaLine matching helmets (Nolan) HondaLine cover HondaLine trunk liner bags Windshield edging & winglets from SAENG, Inc. Carpeted trunk Mirror in trunk (Idea from Dana Sawyer) Tank bag Accessories "on the way:" CB (Juan and I are working on this together) Better horns (but not air) Radio system in the tank bag Headlight modulator (have, just haven't installed) Memberships: AMA & AMA Field Rep HSTA HRCA RM and I have traveled from Plattsburgh to Omaha, NE and back a couple of times and from Plattsburgh to Seattle, WA and back once. When I moved to Alaska I had it shipped in original Honda shipping materials. RM was my ride when I got certified as an MSF instructor. What a beautifully handling machine for riding those range exercises! All those idiots at the bike magazines who have repeatedly roasted the PC over the years need to be stuffed up their Kerkers! This is a wonderful piece of machinery.......but of course, if you are reading this you already knew that! Cory From owner-pc800 Wed May 10 13:27:32 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 and AOL on the Web (from JeffHO@aol.com) (at Wed, 10 May 1995 13:49:55 -0400) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 May 95 13:27:12 CST Hi JeffHO (JeffHO), in <950510134953_113823907@aol.com> on May 10 you wrote: > cool accessories, but I can't seem to find them. Also: is everyone out there > besides me a mechanic, or are things like adding horns and lights and other > electical accessories not as hard as it seems? How does one learn? Wrenching on simple things mainly requires the ability to calmly sit down and think about how the process works. Sure the electrical stuff needs a bit of intro, but you can pretty much get that from some of the 'intro to auto repair' books at your local library or auto parts store. And don't scrimp or take shortcuts... Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Introduction (from ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY)) (at Wed, 10 May 1995 10:13 -0800) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 May 95 13:29:25 CST Hi CORY (CORY), in <9505101814.AA02768@tcamc.uh.edu> on May 10 you wrote: > Accessories "on the way:" > Better horns (but not air) Hey. My air horns are great! Though I did install a cut-out switch for when I just want a measly 110db horn beep. :^) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:39:23 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: New bike! WTB: Backrest and other PC800 items OK folks, after following this list for two months I finally got a PC! Its an '89, bought new in late '92, only 2,000 miles on it. Stock, except has Honda extended windshield and previous owner shortened the center stand (goes up practically with one finger) and put a larger foot on the side stand. So far I'm very happy. It's a lot more comfortable on the highway than my CB650 was, and the trunk space is great, a lot more helpful than I had anticipated. *I'm seeking: Passenger backrest Removable radio/CD and speakers Windshield edging Cycle cover Seat cover Alarm Radar detector Air horns If anyone has these items for sale used, or a referral please email to Jeffy3@pipeline.com. (I did see the earlier reference to Competition Accessories. Thanks.) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 Web page, Introduction (from Juan Goula ) (at Wed, 10 May 1995 08:31:39 -0800 (AKDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 May 95 13:41:32 CST Hi Juan (Juan Goula), in on May 10 you wrote: > Air Horns = There are two sub-frame members which support the > front part of the fairing/headlamp assembly (appropriate, an "underwire" > for a voluptuos (sp?) bike ;-) ) I *believe* that there is enough room in > there to mount the compressor on the coolant tank side and the horns on > the other side. I have not taken it apart yet though. I'll keep you I think you'll find it easier to mount to the mirror frame panels. Plenty of room. I just uploaded a new pic that should be a bit clearer than the one I messed up last time. airhorns2.jpg at the ftp site. It's still hard to see much from the picture, but take a look at it and the others I ftp'd earlier. The compressor is mounted above and behind the righ horn (as viewed form the front). This horn, incidentally, is the shorter of the two :^) and mounted a bit further forward than the other horn. ('plenty of room' as long as you don't have speakers mounted in the cutouts, as that's where the compressor sits). > updated on that. The only thing I don't like about this setup is that > you have to snake the hose from side to side, which is quite a bit of > length. I would really like to have a minimum of hose between the > compressor and the horns (quickens the response time). Cheers. The way I did it used exactly the length of tubing supplied by Fiamm which was about twp feet of hose I think. It was clean and straightforward - doesn't snake much except for the bend in the area near the compressor. The picture also shows the two horn relays I mounted (for the two sets of horns on the bike) on the lower right side of the instrument cluster. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 95 15:06:52 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Spoiler And what's all this about a rear spoiler for the PC?!?!?!?!? What's it like? Any net.pics? Sounds cool... Mike (needs a new toy) '89 PC, and... Loving it! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 15:43:59 -0400 To: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Introduction - Mirror in trunk? On Wed, May 10, 1995 12:00:00 am at CORY wrote: > Mirror in trunk (Idea from Dana Sawyer) Huh? You mean on the back of the trunk? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:52:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction On Wed, 10 May 1995, Kent Polk wrote: > Hi CORY (CORY), in <9505101814.AA02768@tcamc.uh.edu> on May 10 you wrote: > > Accessories "on the way:" > > Better horns (but not air) > > Hey. My air horns are great! Though I did install a cut-out > switch for when I just want a measly 110db horn beep. :^) Kent, more info on where and how this switch was installed would be appreciated. Thanks! Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Introduction (from Juan Goula ) (at Wed, 10 May 1995 11:52:45 -0800 (AKDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 10 May 95 15:16:10 CST Hi Juan (Juan Goula), in on May 10 you wrote: > > Hey. My air horns are great! Though I did install a cut-out > > switch for when I just want a measly 110db horn beep. :^) > > Kent, more info on where and how this switch was installed would be > appreciated. Thanks! I just ran two lines from the horn relay area to one of those little stubby, enclosed plastic auto switches which I mounted in that large blank area above the starter button. One wire was hooked to the horn activiation circuit (which also connects directly to the first horn relay) and the other wire to the second horn relay. let's see: / / o o switch on handlebars | | | | | | (from horn switch hot) | |--------| ------------------------|- |---- | | \/ Rly#1 \/ Rly#2 | | | | | | | c| | | c| | | c| | | c| | | c| | | c| | | | | | | | --------------------------/\-------------/\ (from horn switch gnd) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:50:58 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: New bike! WTB: Backrest and other PC800 items On Wed, 10 May 1995, J. Burach wrote: > Stock, except has Honda extended windshield and previous owner shortened > the center stand (goes up practically with one finger) and put a larger > foot on the side stand. Anyone have more info on the centerstand mod? Sounds promising. Any effects on stability while on the stand? Thanks! Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:53:05 -0400 From: Truztno1@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 and AOL on the Web motorweek tested the pc800 in Jan or Feb of 1990. I remember they gave the bike a good grade. That's why I bought one. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:05 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Re: Introduction - Mirror in trunk? with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:04 -0800 by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8380) 10 May 1995 14:47:29 -0500 (CDT) 10 May 1995 14:44:16 +0600 by mail.nyc.pipeline.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA05149; Wed, 10 May 1995 15:44:04 -0400 id PAA07414; Wed, 10 May 1995 15:43:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 15:43:59 -0400 From: "J. Burach" Subject: Re: Introduction - Mirror in trunk? To: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, jeffy3@pipeline.com On Wed, May 10, 1995 12:00:00 am at CORY wrote: > Mirror in trunk (Idea from Dana Sawyer) >> Huh? You mean on the back of the trunk? (J.Burach asked.) Bottom part of the trunk, not the lid. right on the flat area just above latch. There should be a black and silver sticker there w/ the recommended tire pressures. I moved the sticker up higher and mounted the mirror (about the width of the indentation there, but not as tall) with foam double side tape. Juan tells me he moved that sticker to the underside of his fairing compartment lid to make it easier to get to when all loaded up. Those who fear "helmet hair" really like the little mirror. I got mine at K-Mart, broke the little plastic frame off, and have had no trouble since. Cory From owner-pc800 Wed May 10 19:02:06 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:00 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Spoiler with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 10 May 1995 15:07 -0800 >Mike wrote on 10 May: >And what's all this about a rear spoiler for the PC?!?!?!?!? What's it like? Any >net.pics? Sounds cool. Mike, The original Honda literature for the '89 & '90 showed optional top & bottom rear spoilers for the rear of the thing. The bottom one was kind of a "ground effects" sort of thing in the lower color. The top one is a crescent shaped thing. It's kind of like a boomerang with droopy ends. The ends connect to the top of the deck lid and the midle attaches to the rear of the "hump" behind the seat. (I'm not sure that description is really clear.) Once, while going through a toll booth on the NY Tnpke near Buffalo I saw a PC w/ both top & bottom. I don't even remember if it was a white or red one. I noted an antenna so he had the, much coveted, Kenwood radio, too. What I want to find is the Honda front fender extension kit. I could use it up here! Cory From owner-pc800 Wed May 10 19:26:59 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:25:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Front fender extension > What I want to find is the Honda front fender extension kit. I could use > it up here! > Cory Me too! Me too! Any leads towards a couple of those suckers will be much appreciated far, far north. Thanks. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Front fender extension Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 19:33:38 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Are you talking about the smallish rubber piece that goes at the rear of the fender to keep the mud from hitting the radiator? Useful little thing. Honda must still make them. If your dealers really can't get them I could check with mine. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 17:14:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Front fender extension On Wed, 10 May 1995, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Are you talking about the smallish rubber piece that goes at the rear of > the fender to keep the mud from hitting the radiator? Useful little thing. > Honda must still make them. If your dealers really can't get them I could > check with mine. That would be much appreciated. Our local dealer has never been a stellar performer and right now they are in a state of flux, maybe being sold, maybe not... Another thing I would be thankfull for is if anyone out there knows of an aftermarket replacement for the air filter (K&N would be ideal, but no luck so far). I have a hard time shelling out $64.00 for the Honda unit (Anchorage dealer, 360 miles to the south), or $52.00 paid-in-advance-'cause-it's-a-special-order-and-we-will-call-you-in -two-to-three-weeks (Fairbanks dealer). I'm even considering throwing the one I have into the dishwasher! (Ok, so I'm cheap...):-) Comments/suggestions? Thanks! Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 23:59:11 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "C" == CORY writes: C> Windshield edging & winglets from SAENG, Inc. I see you have the windlets. I have the edging and find that it works great for me, and I've been contemplating the winglets for a while now. Unfortunately they;re something like $90, which pushes it a bit for something that might not work (though he has a good return policy, hmmm). Anyway, do you find that they work? How tall are you? Do you ride sitting straight up, or do you crouch? Thanks, --- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@tcamc.uh.edu - 713/743-8687 - 221SR1 System Admin: Texas Center for Advanced Molecular Computation 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 GM/CS/S d--- -p+ c++++ l++ u+++ e+ m---(++) n--- s/-- h* f+ g+ w+ t- r- y+** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 95 09:10:22 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: Introduction >...I have the edging and find that it works great for me... I have the edging, and it seems to do *nothing*! What am I doing wrong?!?!?!?!? It's on and '89 with the stock (low) windshield. The only problem I'm having is excessive helmet noise. The wind stream hits right in the middle of the visor, and causes very a very loud rushing sound as it goes around openings in the helmet. I was hoping the edging would help, but I can't detect any change at all. Suggestions? Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction (from m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White)) (at Thu, 11 May 1995 09:10:22 -0400 (EDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 11 May 95 09:47:06 CST Hi Michael (Michael J White), in <199505111311.JAA18154@mwunix.mitre.org> on May 11 you wrote: > >...I have the edging and find that it works great for me... > > I have the edging, and it seems to do *nothing*! What am I doing wrong?!?!?!?!? > It's on and '89 with the stock (low) windshield. The only problem I'm having is > excessive helmet noise. The wind stream hits right in the middle of the visor, > and causes very a very loud rushing sound as it goes around openings in the > helmet. I was hoping the edging would help, but I can't detect any change at > all. Suggestions? Thanks. I'm 6'1" and I have the edging on the stock windshield and it *barely* works for me (but it does work and was worth the $$). I ride leaned forward, weight on my thighs, and I usually ride with the visor in the up position to drop the noise level of my RF-200, which is an extremely noisy helmet unless it's operating in open air. This riding position, etc. places the airstream just above the face opening in the helmet, which is critical to lowering the noise level on the RF-200. I still have plenty of room to see over the screen and the edging in no way hinders my view. I wonder if the people for whom it works typically ride in a position similar to this? All the ones I have talked to who like the edging on the PC do (so far). Consensus? Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 11:37:31 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Edging, wings, etc. (Yo, Cory!) Kent Polk writes on May 11: >>I'm 6'1" and I have the edging on the stock windshield and it *barely* works for me (but it does work and was worth the $$). I ride leaned forward, weight on my thighs, and I usually ride with the visor in the up position to drop the noise level of my RF-200, which is an extremely noisy helmet unless it's operating in open air. This riding position, etc. places the airstream just above the face opening in the helmet, which is critical to lowering the noise level on the RF-200. I still have plenty of room to see over the screen and the edging in no way hinders my view. I wonder if the people for whom it works typically ride in a position similar to this? All the ones I have talked to who like the edging on the PC do (so far). Consensus?<< I, too, am 6'1" and have the Saeng edging on the stock windshield. And I, too, wear an RF-200. In fact, my name is Kent Polk. No, wait: I'm Jeff Odell. But I have a similar experience. I definately think the edging has raised the airstream, but certainly not enough to go over the helmet. I tend to sit fairly upright. On longer rides, when I get tired of the noise I just lean forward and duck my head a bit and...silence. I have often thought about getting the center winglet. I hope accessories-meister Cory will share his experience with those. (Cory: have you used the center one alone? Edging on winglets?) And while I'm addressing Cory, how long is the riding season up there? Frustratingly short? And how are the roads? Or do you just cruise up and down the same 10-mile stretch? I'm visiting AK in August although, alas, not travelling by bike. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:07:43 -0400 From: JFMinyard@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction In a message dated 95-05-11 09:18:01 EDT, you write: >>...I have the edging and find that it works great for me... > >I have the edging, and it seems to do *nothing*! What am I doing >wrong?!?!?!?!? >It's on and '89 with the stock (low) windshield. It may have to do with the '89 windshield. The stock windshield on the '89 is somewhat(I don't have the amount) smaller than the stock unit on the '90,'94, and '95 models. At least that is what the brochure for the '90s claimed was one of the differences from the '89. In a related vein, I spotted a picture of a '89 PC in the East TN newsletter for the HSTA with a small black spoiler at the top of the windshield. I have not found out whose bike it is or how well it works. However, in this month's Rider magazine Chaparral has an ad that shows what looks like the same spoiler. I called about it and found out it is $24.99 and is supposed to reduce turbulence. I have ordered one(it is backordered of course) and as soon as I get it I will let you know how it works. They also have some good prices on some Galindo tank bags that are of a fair quality if anyone is interested. Jim Minyard ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 95 15:14:44 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Re: Re[2]: Introduction ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/11/95 15:15 ## RE: ST1100 front fender on PC800. Contact: Cinda Mobley, Texas HSTA member. Looks good. Roger Prince Previous comments: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JFMinyard@aol.com:dg-smtp Date: ## 04/27/95 01:26 ## See document for message. CEO document contents: > ...a PC800 dressed and painted as a traffic reporting vehicle. I recall seeing the article in question a couple years ago. I can't recall which magazine it was in... but I do recall that the bike was purchased by a radio station to be used for traffic reports(I believe it was in the Northeast). The station had repainted the bike, added logos and call letters and installed communication equipment to be able to broadcast during rush hour. The rationale was that the bike would enable the traffic reporter to get through traffic jams to the scene of the accident more quickly and easily than a car and allow a closer first-hand look than a helicopter. About the same time I saw an article in one of the British bike magazines about a taxi service in London that used two PC's as taxi bikes. They had radio communications and special rear floorboards and a custom backrest. The backrest was about the size of a lowback bucket seat, could be folded down, and had bungee points to attach luggage. The driver carried a blanket in the back for those mornings that were a little bit nippy. Sorry I couldn't recall the specifics of where I saw these articles. I am working on some homemade modifications for my bike that I will report on when I have successfully completed them. I would also like to hear about the brake lights that were mentioned by a member recently. I just thought of another thing... I saw an article in the HSTA StarReview a few(give or take half a year :^)) months back that mentioned replacing the PC's front fender with an ST1100's for added high speed stability. It required making some brackets as I recall. If any one has the particulars of this modification I would appreciate it. If not let me know and I will try to run down the article and get the details from the people involved and post them here. God how I want to ride this weedend. Jim Minyard HRCA, HSTA '90 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 13:32 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Edging & Winglets > From Jason: >I see you have the windlets. I have the edging and find that it works >great for me, and I've been contemplating the winglets for a while now. >Unfortunately they;re something like $90, which pushes it a bit for >something that might not work (though he has a good return policy, hmmm). >Anyway, do you find that they work? How tall are you? Do you ride sitting >straight up, or do you crouch? The SAENG stuff is pretty good. I put the winglets on first and was very happy with them as far as their performance. I followed their installation instructions pretty carefully, I thought, but I had trouble with the main mounting things sticking to the windshield. I ended up riding half way across the country with a couple of 2" C-clamps holding the things in place. (Looked sorta' stupid, but it worked!) When I got to a place where I could work I carefully drilled a hole down through the middle of the mounting and installed a carriage bolt with a wing nut. With the head of the bolt painted black it can't even be seen, and I like the wing nut better than the original SAENG thing. The poor guy at SAENG would be pretty upset to hear about it, because they have a huge amount of confidence in their adhesives. SAE seems to be a great outfit. I've broken the upright thingie for the winglets a couple of times, and they have always replaced them at no charge and with no questions asked. I was told this spring that they have changed the design to make the part stronger. I have the three piece, but I'm not sure but what the single big one would have been enough. The wind use to hit the middle of the helmet, now seems to hit at about the top of the shield, far less noise, but not completely gone. I'm about 5'9" and pretty much sit upright, though I do move around a fair bit. I added the edging stuff later. I honestly don't know if it helped or not. Nice quality, though. Their "Can Do" cleaner is wonderful!!!!!!! Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 11 17:12:05 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:09 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Edging, wings, etc. >Jeff wrote: >No, wait: I'm Jeff Odell. But I have a similar experience. I definately think >the edging has raised the airstream, but certainly not enough to go over the >helmet. I tend to sit fairly upright. On longer rides, when I get tired of >the noise I just lean forward and duck my head a bit and...silence. I have >often thought about getting the center winglet. I hope accessories-meister >Cory will share his experience with those. (Cory: have you used the center >one alone? Edging on winglets?) The winglets come with their own stick-on edging, similar in profile to the other edging. >And while I'm addressing Cory, how long is the riding season up there? >Frustratingly short? And how are the roads? Or do you just cruise up and down >the same 10-mile stretch? I'm visiting AK in August although, alas, not >travelling by bike. The riding season is longer than you might expect. One must be a little hardy in the spring and fall, as the "cold weather riding season" is longer than in most places. Summer time is nice.....not much rain and lots and lots and lots and lots of daylight! Roads are OK, a few frost heaves here and there. What we need the most here in the way of roads is MORE ROADS! This place could be dual-sport heaven. We still manage to get lots of riding in. You would probably be shocked at how many bikes there are here! HUGE number of Harleys; that image fits in well w/ the "last frontier" attitude here. Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 11 17:40:58 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:39 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Front Frnder for PC ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/11/95 15:15 ## RE: ST1100 front fender on PC800. Contact: Cinda Mobley, Texas HSTA member. Looks good. Roger Prince The fender from the late '80's - early '90's CBR 1000 will fit on fairly easily, too. Had it all set up in '92, but the extra, very slightly damaged one that I had lined up at my friendly neighborhood Honda dealership just up and vanished one day. I guess I'm too cheap to get a new one! Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 11 18:15:27 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 19:15:17 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Hondaline accessories parts #'s needed This fellow, RobbRacer@aol.com offers to obtain Honda parts at 20% off list, with no shipping charge. He needs the part numbers, however. I have no easy way of getting the part numbers. If anyone can please look up the numbers, I will be glad to obtain a quote. In fact, if other people are interested in ordering, perhaps he will give a larger percentage off, for a quantity order. So, if anyone is interested in adding to the order, please give me a rough idea of what you want. I will then negotiate for a percentage discount, and let you know the result. You can handle the actual order etc. directly with him. For clarity, direct your response directly to me by e-mail, and place the word ORDER in capital letters in the subject. Here are the parts I'd like numbers for. I don't know that Honda actually sells all of these items. Backrest Cycle Cover Front wheel mud guard Hondaline radio Seat cover Inner Trunk Bags Rear luggage rack Clear Scuff Pads Inner trunk light Carpet mat set, Trunk Thanks, - Jeff --------- Forwarded message ---------- Subj: OEM parts 20% off shipped 2 U 95-04-02 23:30:35 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RobbRacer I can get factory Honda parts shipped to your door in three to four working days, with no tax and including shipping. When you add it up it's really like 35% off. If interested don't post but call 904-378-0331 or mail RobbRacer< Robb, Thanks for responding, I can get you the parts, but must have the part numbers. Payment is made by credit card, and the parts are directly shipped to you. The price will be exactly 20% off the list price. When you get the part numbers, they should also tell you the list price. Take off 20% and remember there is no tax and shipping is free. I can usually get you the parts in 3-4 working days. Thanks, Rob P.S. If you would like to speak to me you can by calling 904-378-0331, and leave a message. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 13 May 95 08:37:16 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Hondaline accessories parts #'s needed ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/13/95 08:38 ## This is a list I received 6-4-91. Availability and prices have to be checked out with a dealer. P/N H/C Description S/R 08126-MR500 3125473 Rear Spoiler 167.99 08126-MR510 3125481 Saddlebag Spoiler 171.14 08118-MR500 3202173 Audio System 577.45 08162-MR500 3143286 Trunk Light 34.60 08706-MR500 3402989 Nose Mask 49.95 08154-MR500 3393097 Large Windscreen 194.20 08154-MR520 3379179 Windscreen Mount 12.08 08111-MR500 3125465 Backrest 134.99 08361-MR500 3178837 Body Cover 78.70 08162-MR510 3178845 Inner Bag Set 52.45 08162-MR530 3178852 Scuff Pad Kit 34.95 08162-MR520 3125507 Trim Kit 26.24 08156-MR500 3125499 Front Mudguard 26.24 08172-MR500 3178829 Trunk Interior Mats 19.95 These are followed by color-matched helmet nos. at 199.95. Enjoy. Roger CEO document contents: This fellow, RobbRacer@aol.com offers to obtain Honda parts at 20% off list, with no shipping charge. He needs the part numbers, however. I have no easy way of getting the part numbers. If anyone can please look up the numbers, I will be glad to obtain a quote. In fact, if other people are interested in ordering, perhaps he will give a larger percentage off, for a quantity order. So, if anyone is interested in adding to the order, please give me a rough idea of what you want. I will then negotiate for a percentage discount, and let you know the result. You can handle the actual order etc. directly with him. For clarity, direct your response directly to me by e-mail, and place the word ORDER in capital letters in the subject. Here are the parts I'd like numbers for. I don't know that Honda actually sells all of these items. Backrest Cycle Cover Front wheel mud guard Hondaline radio Seat cover Inner Trunk Bags Rear luggage rack Clear Scuff Pads Inner trunk light Carpet mat set, Trunk Thanks, - Jeff --------- Forwarded message ---------- Subj: OEM parts 20% off shipped 2 U 95-04-02 23:30:35 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: RobbRacer I can get factory Honda parts shipped to your door in three to four working days, with no tax and including shipping. When you add it up it's really like 35% off. If interested don't post but call 904-378-0331 or mail RobbRacer< Robb, Thanks for responding, I can get you the parts, but must have the part numbers. Payment is made by credit card, and the parts are directly shipped to you. The price will be exactly 20% off the list price. When you get the part numbers, they should also tell you the list price. Take off 20% and remember there is no tax and shipping is free. I can usually get you the parts in 3-4 working days. Thanks, Rob P.S. If you would like to speak to me you can by calling 904-378-0331, and leave a message. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Wrist Rest pictures (from Jason L Tibbitts III ) (at Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:54:41 -0600) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 16 May 95 17:08:41 CST I just ftp'ed two more jpegs of my Wrist Rest. WristRest1.jpg - closeup as mounted. Autofocus went for the mirror instead of the bar. :^( WristRest2.jpg - closeup of end of bar and disassembled WR. Sorry for getting my grubby fingers in the way. :^) (maybe crank up the gamma a bit to view) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 16:43:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Wrist Rest pictures Well, our month of record high temperatures (low to mid 80's) has finally run into a left turning cold front. I heard reports of snow falling just a few miles to the north east. Time to put the bikes away again I guess. NOT! It will give me some time to work on my bike though. Update on the air filter. It is not cloth, so forget the dishwasher idea. I pulled it out (it was moderately dirty) and noticed that it had a bit more than just some gasoline smell. When I tried to blow it out with the air compressor I noticed it was kind of oily. Any one have an insight on this? Anyway, air alone was not taking care of it so I used some (a lot) of CRC brake cleaner. This plus some more compressed air washed all the crud off and it looks like a new filter again. If it doesn't disintegrate before the next inspection, I'll probably try it again. If you try this at home, remember to let the brake cleaner evaporate first before you put it back on. Don't want to think what the volatile mixture would do to the combustion chambers! I did notice the next day that the bike had more pep, but then again it could be that it was 30 degrees colder. I'll keep you posted. >>> On Tue, 16 May 1995, Kent Polk wrote: >>> I just ftp'ed two more jpegs of my Wrist Rest. Cory sez that being ftp'ed while on jpeg status sounds painfull, I agree. I don't mean to be a computer dork, but what format is .jpg and what software do I need to be able to view it? I currently have P5 60Mhz (no math jokes please) with a svga card and monitor, running WFWW, WordPerf FW and no graphics/desktop pub. software. Can it be done with this? Thanks. Oh, and could you repeat the ftp address where this bounty of pictures resides? Thanks again. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Wrist Rest pictures Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 21:00:57 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "JG" == Juan Goula writes: JG> I don't mean to be a computer dork, but what format is .jpg and what JG> software do I need to be able to view it? Uh, well, it's a JPEG file, which is pretty much the standard for image distribution outside the PC world, where GIF is used. A JPEG viewer for windows should be easily obtainable; try looking at ftp.cica.indiana.edu. Me, I just type "xv", but I run UNIX exclusively. JG> Oh, and could you repeat the ftp address where this bounty of pictures JG> resides? You really should save the message that you get from a list server when you sign on. It's sina.tcamc.uh.edu in /pub/pc800. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 22:11:14 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Spoiler On Wed, May 10, 1995 12:00:00 am at CORY wrote: >The original Honda literature for the '89 & '90 showed optional top & >bottom rear spoilers for the rear of the thing. The bottom one was kind of >a "ground effects" sort of thing in the lower color. The top one is a crescent >shaped thing. It's kind of like a boomerang with droopy ends. The ends >connect to the top of the deck lid and the midle attaches to the rear of >the "hump" behind the seat. (I'm not sure that description is really clear.) I wonder if these spoilers have much functional value, or merely aesthetic? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Aftermarket Air Filter? From: SETH@dsi.Coded.COM (SETH MILLER) Date: 17 May 95 09:12:13 EDT Anyone aware of any aftermarket air filters available for the PC800? I can't find a part number in the K&N catalog... maybe not enough demand..? There should be, as anyone who has had the pleasure of being robbed to the tune of $35-40 for a Honda stock replacement will know... - Seth seth@dsi.coded.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:10:03 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Aftermarket Air Filter? On Wed, 17 May 1995, SETH MILLER wrote: > > Anyone aware of any aftermarket air filters available for the PC800? I > can't find a part number in the K&N catalog... maybe not enough demand..? > There should be, as anyone who has had the pleasure of being robbed to > the tune of $35-40 for a Honda stock replacement will know... > Seth, I'd be happy to pay $35 for it. The cheapest I've been quoted is $52! Of course, our dealer does't have any in stock and claims that to order it we need to pay in advance and wait two to three weeks for it. I forgot to mention one thing about cleaning my air filter (though most of you might have already thought of it). Spraying both air and cleaner were done in the reverse direction of air flow only. I also placed a small patch of bug screen at the forward opening of the air box snorkel to prevent any large insects from being sucked in. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Air Filter Replacement From: SETH@dsi.Coded.COM (SETH MILLER) Date: 18 May 95 08:21:48 EDT > Seth, I'd be happy to pay $35 for it. The cheapest I've been quoted is $52! Yeah, I know... the only reason I got mine for $37 is because I bought it before the PC was re-introduced, so the dealer thought that he may get stuck with a couple of air filters in stock and was willing to let them go at cost to get rid of them. I should note that I was only offered the lower price when I laughed at the original asking price and started to walk out... > Of course, our dealer doesn't have any in stock and claims that to order > it we need to pay in advance and wait two to three weeks for it. Of course! Why would you expect the dealer to actually stock such a rare item as an air filter, especially when he *only* makes a 40% markup on it..? :) And the dealers wonder why they have such a bad rep... I suppose the only solution is to try to re-cycle filters per your method, or try one of the mail-order parts suppliers - they are usually much more reasonable (IF you can avoid choking while calling $40-$50 "reasonable" for an air filter...) Or, how about a letter-writing campaign to K&N...? - Seth seth@dsi.coded.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:51 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Spoiler I'm very sure that the two PC spoilers are both for looks only. Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 18 15:01:24 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:59:57 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: 1996 PC800 Well, now I *know* the the Honda brass have lost their collective marbles. Why? The 1996 PC800 (red) has a MSRP of ~$8,400.00! That's about 2k more than when it was re-introduced as a '94 model. I can just see the hordes of people breaking down Honda's doors to get their hands on one, can't you? Jeez! I found this info in motorcycle.html if you want to get cyber-sticker-shock on your own. Thankfully I still have many miles left on my PC, cause I can't see myself buying a new one anytime soon. Later, Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:33 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: 1996 PC800 WOW, that's a lotta' copper for a PC! I LOVE MY PC, BUT I'M NOT SURE I LOVE IT THAT MUCH! It's a little hard to imagine paying that much for ANY motorcycle, but I guess I'd better get into the 90's! I know that I got a great deal in '91 when I bought my '89 new for $4800. I'll never get a deal like that again..............(sigh!) Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 18 16:55:28 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 14:54:05 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: 1996 PC800 Greetings - >Well, now I *know* the the Honda brass have lost their collective marbles. >Why? The 1996 PC800 (red) has a MSRP of ~$8,400.00! That's about 2k >more than when it was re-introduced as a '94 model. I can just see the >hordes of people breaking down Honda's doors to get their hands on one, >can't you? Jeez! Well, if you think that's outrageous, wait until you see the price increases on the rest of the imported motorcycles for 1996. (However, it's about time they brought the *red* ones back!) With the recent precipitious fall of the Dollar against all foreign currencies, I'm betting on new-bike prices rising a *minimum* of 10%-15% for 1996, for all bikes from Japan, Germany, Italy, the UK, or wherever. So if you want a new bike, either set your sights on Harleys and Buells or buy a 1995! Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:25:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: 1996 PC800 sf = Spencer Farrow jg = Juan Goula On Thu, 18 May 1995, Spencer Farrow wrote: >jg>Well, now I *know* the the Honda brass have lost their collective marbles. >jg>Why? The 1996 PC800 (red) has a MSRP of ~$8,400.00! That's about 2k >jg>more than when it was re-introduced as a '94 model. I can just see the >jg>hordes of people breaking down Honda's doors to get their hands on one, >jg>can't you? Jeez! > sf> Well, if you think that's outrageous, wait until you see the price increases sf> on the rest of the imported motorcycles for 1996. (However, it's about time > they brought the *red* ones back!) I didn't get a very good picture of it, but I believe this years' PC is RED red, not maroon (sp?) like the 90 model, sort of like last years' ST1100. I'm not sure I like it as well. sf> With the recent precipitious fall of the Dollar against all foreign sf> currencies, I'm betting on new-bike prices rising a *minimum* of 10%-15% for sf> 1996, for all bikes from Japan, Germany, Italy, the UK, or wherever. Honda tried to keep the increases down to about 5% average, so 8.4k sounds about right if the 95 was 7,995. Maybe they should start building it here with the GW and Shadow ACE. Maybe we will soon start getting bikes from Korea. The Korean won is tied to the dollar, so it rises and falls with it. This coupled with the fact that Korea has been so agressive with its automotive industry could spell doom for the Japanese auto. sf> So if you want a new bike, either set your sights on ... Buells ... Boy , I wish! Later. Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:25:43 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: 1996 PC800 Greetings Juan (and assorted PCers) - >Honda tried to keep the increases down to about 5% average, so 8.4k >sounds about right if the 95 was 7,995. Maybe they should start building >it here with the GW and Shadow ACE. Wasn't the 94-to-95 price increase a bit more than was expected? Perhaps they (Honda) built in a bit of additional margin in their '95 prices, in expectation of these kind of currency fluctuations. BTW, might we be able to come up with a name for PC enthusiasts? I come up with the following: Coasties (or Coasters, though that sounds like what you do if your engine quits) PCers (sounds pretty lame, and would make most folks think of computers) Anybody else? Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:29:11 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: 1996 PC800 >BTW, might we be able to come up with a name for PC enthusiasts? I come up >with the following: >Coasties (or Coasters, though that sounds like what you do if your engine > quits) Funny you should mention that. I settled on COASTR for my vanity plate on the PC (limited to 6 letters). ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 10:08:57 -0800 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: korbel@maverick.llnl.gov (George Korbel) Subject: PC800 Battery Hi guys! This morning , as usually when it doesn't rain in California (which this year is not too often), I put my leather jacket + helmet on, ready to ride to work. Started the engine and - nothing happened, only sick sound of depleated battery. My question to you - experienced "Coasters" : I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have to remove in order to get to the terminals. What does it take to remove/replace this battery. Your advise (the more detailed, the better) is going to be greatly appreciated. Thanks, George korbel1@llnl.gov George Korbel Lawrence Livermore National Labs. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 Battery (from korbel@maverick.llnl.gov (George Korbel)) (at Fri, 19 May 1995 10:08:57 -0800) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:07:07 CST Hi George (George Korbel), in <9505191751.AA26866@maverick.llnl.gov> on May 19 you wrote: > I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought > practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. > How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have > to remove in order to get to the terminals. What does it take to > remove/replace this battery. If you aren't planning on removing the battery, I think you can get to it by removing the pilot's saddle. Open trunk, remove two bolts, slightly close trunk and slide saddle back from tank mount until you can lift the front up and remove it. Been in there a couple of times and if I remember correctly, you have a good shot at the top of the battery. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 19 May 1995 11:43:08 -0800 From: "George Korbel" Subject: Re: PC800- PC800 Battery To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu RE>>PC800: PC800 Battery 5/19/95 Thanks for advise, Ken. I still remember your help with the Saeng edging every time I ride with the open face helmet in a unbafetted (sp.?) area behind, yet above windshield. George -------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 5/19/95 11:13 AM To: George Korbel From: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Hi George (George Korbel), in <9505191751.AA26866@maverick.llnl.gov> on May 19 you wrote: > I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought > practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. > How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have > to remove in order to get to the terminals. What does it take to > remove/replace this battery. If you aren't planning on removing the battery, I think you can get to it by removing the pilot's saddle. Open trunk, remove two bolts, slightly close trunk and slide saddle back from tank mount until you can lift the front up and remove it. Been in there a couple of times and if I remember correctly, you have a good shot at the top of the battery. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ (8.6.10/LLNL-1.18/llnl.gov-03.95) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8380) 19 May 1995 13:08:58 -0500 (CDT) 19 May 1995 13:07:59 +0600 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:07:07 -0600 (CST) From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 Battery korbel@maverick.llnl.gov (George Korbel)) (at Fri, 19 May 1995 10:08:57 -0800) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Reply-to: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Re: PC800- PC800 Battery (from George Korbel ) (at Fri, 19 May 1995 11:43:08 -0800) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:51:19 CST Hi George (George Korbel), in on May 19 you wrote: > Thanks for advise, Ken. > > I still remember your help with the Saeng edging every time I ride with the > open face helmet in a unbafetted (sp.?) area behind, yet above windshield. thanks. hope I'm right on this one. :^) You may have to remove the right upper side panel though. Accomplished by : 1) pull out the right side vent from the cowling. It's a press fit so just grab the back edge with your fingers and unsnap it, then work it out. 2) pull off the bottom access panel (wehre the dipstick is) 3) unscrew the phillips screw at the top right of the side panel where it joins the cowling. 4) gently pull the side panel off. Either two or three snaps hold it in place. Start with pulling the front of the panel out to clear the cowling and then work your way back. Should get you there. :^) I've done this a few times and remember it pretty well. :^| Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Re: PC800- PC800 Battery (from kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk)) (at Fri, 19 May 1995 13:51:19 -0600 (CST)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 19 May 95 13:56:27 CST Hi Kent (Kent Polk), in <20b06356.30d46-kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu> on May 19 you wrote: > 2) pull off the bottom access panel (wehre the dipstick is) oops, don't need to do this step. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:39:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 Battery On Fri, 19 May 1995, George Korbel wrote: > Hi guys! > My question to you - experienced "Coasters" : > > I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought > practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. > How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have George, I've been able to squeeze a couple of aligator clamps on the battery terminals without removing anything. You do have to open the trunk and push the rubber cap on the "+" terminal aside. Just remember not to short the + with any part of the frame. If you do need to remove the battery then you need to take off the side panel and undo a couple of screws that hold the bottom portion of the trunk's lower cladding (accessible from the inside of the trunk). I neglected to do this last part and ended up with a small crack on the trunk piece (not enough flex with all the screws in place). Thankfully it is not visible. Good luck! I want to thank kent for the tips on installing the air horns, looks quite feasible after I got a look at the pictures of his nude PC, and also thanks to Jason for the tip on how to view said pictures. I ftp'ed version 3.0 of PaintShop Pro for windows and it works great! Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 19 May 1995 13:09:57 -0800 From: "George Korbel" Subject: Re: PC800- PC800 Battery To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu RE>>PC800: PC800 Battery 5/19/95 Thanks Juan for advise. I'll try your method first, then - if I don't succeed, or if the battery needs replacement - I'll do what Kent recommended. Thanks again, George -------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: 5/19/95 12:45 PM To: George Korbel From: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu On Fri, 19 May 1995, George Korbel wrote: > Hi guys! > My question to you - experienced "Coasters" : > > I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought > practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. > How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have George, I've been able to squeeze a couple of aligator clamps on the battery terminals without removing anything. You do have to open the trunk and push the rubber cap on the "+" terminal aside. Just remember not to short the + with any part of the frame. If you do need to remove the battery then you need to take off the side panel and undo a couple of screws that hold the bottom portion of the trunk's lower cladding (accessible from the inside of the trunk). I neglected to do this last part and ended up with a small crack on the trunk piece (not enough flex with all the screws in place). Thankfully it is not visible. Good luck! I want to thank kent for the tips on installing the air horns, looks quite feasible after I got a look at the pictures of his nude PC, and also thanks to Jason for the tip on how to view said pictures. I ftp'ed version 3.0 of PaintShop Pro for windows and it works great! Juan ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ (8.6.10/LLNL-1.18/llnl.gov-03.95) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8380) 19 May 1995 14:41:43 -0500 (CDT) 19 May 1995 14:40:24 +0600 by jarvis.ims.alaska.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07502 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:36:30 -0800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:39:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula Subject: Re: PC800 Battery To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Reply-to: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 17:03:31 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Battery trickle charge permanent installation On Fri, May 19, 1995 11:39:06 am at Juan Goula wrote: >> I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought >> practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. >> How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have > >George, I've been able to squeeze a couple of aligator clamps on the >battery terminals without removing anything. You do have to open the >trunk and push the rubber cap on the "+" terminal aside. Just remember >not to short the + with any part of the frame. I have installed a quick-disconnect cable to the battery for future charging purposes. Safer and less awkward than trying to squeeze in with alligator clips. I can also use it as a power tap. Available for ~$2.50 at Radio Shack (cat. no. 270-025). - Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 22:51:15 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: ey@forum.swarthmore.edu (E.Y. MurphEY) Subject: Re: PC800 Battery >Hi guys! > >This morning , as usually when it doesn't rain in California (which this >year is not too often), I put my leather jacket + helmet on, ready to ride >to work. Started the engine and - nothing happened, only sick sound of >depleated battery. > >My question to you - experienced "Coasters" : > >I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought >practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. >How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have >to remove in order to get to the terminals. What does it take to >remove/replace this battery. > >Your advise (the more detailed, the better) is going to be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, George > >korbel1@llnl.gov > >George Korbel >Lawrence Livermore National Labs. well let george do it ? well he can...see your manual to get 5 pieces of plastic off... the battery is lifted out from there and god ol SEARS has a Diehard no maintenance battery waiting for you fopr about $69 it's easy george...have done it and I am a klotzy irish farm boy {88} ey E.Y. MurphEY School District of Haverford Township 1801 Darby Rd. Havertown, PA 'within everything is the seed of it's apparent contradiction...by understanding their tension and balance, truth can be found" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:02:09 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: ey@forum.swarthmore.edu (E.Y. MurphEY) Subject: Re: Re: PC800- PC800 Battery >Thanks for advise, Ken. > >I still remember your help with the Saeng edging every time I ride with the >open face helmet in a unbafetted (sp.?) area behind, yet above windshield. > >George > >-------------------------------------- >Date: 5/19/95 11:13 AM >To: George Korbel >From: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu >Hi George (George Korbel), in <9505191751.AA26866@maverick.llnl.gov> on May 19 >you wrote: > >> I'd like to trickle charge my battery on this PC 1990 model which I bought >> practically new in 94, and put on it 13,000 miles in the last 14 months. >> How do I get to the - maintenace free - battery. What plastic parts I have >> to remove in order to get to the terminals. What does it take to >> remove/replace this battery. > >If you aren't planning on removing the battery, I think you can >get to it by removing the pilot's saddle. Open trunk, remove two >bolts, slightly close trunk and slide saddle back from tank mount >until you can lift the front up and remove it. Been in there a >couple of times and if I remember correctly, you have a good shot >at the top of the battery. > >Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute >Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu > > > Dear george I think Kent is not right about the easy thru the saddle...see owners manual... 1. pull out air vent on right side ...it's just snappped in there 2. remove visible screw ( remember where it goes back!) 3. pull off side panel just below seat 4.remove underneath bolt for right engine guard...pull off guard which is plastic clamped in gaurd pipe 5. pop out thin panel above foot brake 6. remove two bolts that hold cowling under engine 7. remove back side guard by pull clamp from gaurd pipe 8. remove back bolt of last large remaining side panel and side forword over passenger peg let it hang there ...don't take it off 9. see battery, unbolt battery clamp....disconnect black ground line ...remove battery it's a close fit...disconnect red line good luck {88} ey E.Y. MurphEY School District of Haverford Township 1801 Darby Rd. Havertown, PA 'within everything is the seed of it's apparent contradiction...by understanding their tension and balance, truth can be found" 21 May 1995 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by UG.EDS.COM From: _spain@UG.EDS.COM (Harrison Spain) Subject: Stealth edging To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: _spain@UG.EDS.COM I've been reading in this mailing list about the Stealth edging and think it will work for me. I have the tall windscreen on my PC800 *but* I'm 6' 4" and ride fairly upright so I still stick out above the screen. If I duck down just a bit, it is so quiet I can hear the engine purr. I also have a very noisy helmet. The Shoei RF200(?) that came out before the RF700 looks like it would be quiet as a mouse (nicely sealed faceshield) but it really roars above my windscreen! Why is that?!? :-} I've asked my local shops about this edging but they all give me a blank look. The one shop (which is *very* large and carries only accessories etc.) had one guy that knew of the edging but did not know where to get it. Could someone help me with an address, phone number, and pricing? Should I get just the edging or the side wing gadgets also? Thanks for your help! This mailing list has been a real God-send to us PC800 fanatics! | Harrison M. Spain | Voice: (714) 952-6114 | | Systems Support Manager | Fax: (714) 952-5371 | | EDS Unigraphics | Internet: _spain@ug.eds.com | | Cypress, CA 90630 | UUCP: ...uunet!ug!_spain | ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, _spain@ug.eds.com Subject: Re: Stealth edging Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 12:09:14 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "HS" == Harrison Spain <_spain@UG.EDS.COM> writes: HS> Could someone help me with an address, phone number, and pricing? You can call SAENG at 1-800-TOURING. It is somewhat difficult to actually talk to anyone; unless he's hired help he only mans the phone in the mornings. If you don't get him you get a voicemail system. The stuff costs $10 a foot, and you need four feet. Actually you need a bit less, but it only comes in one-foot increments. HS> Should I get just the edging or the side wing gadgets also? The wing things are more costly, and you really want to see a catalog. He has a really nice catalog. If you get the edging and don't like it, I might be willing to buy it from you. I have a friend who tried mine and wants some but who never seems to get around to calling. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 22 May 95 09:04:18 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Stealth edging After hearing folk's comments about the edging, I put mine back on and paid close attention. It does help; it moves the "pocket" of quiet air up about 2 inches. I still get a lot of wind noise in my Shoei RF-200, but it's better with the edging than withiut it. If I drop my head a few inches, it gets real quiet. This is on an '89 with the original (short) windshield. I think a combination of a slightly taller windshield and the edging would be quite effective. Mike White '89 PC-800 "Pacific Coast" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 22 May 95 09:41:20 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Re: Stealth edging ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 05/22/95 09:40 ## I found the '89 screen with a stick-on rubber spoiler to provide the same result (wind-wise) as the '90 screen. My problem was the top of the '90 screen is eye level but I can look over the '89 with the spoiler. I'm also using the edging on the sides but the effect is minimal and I may remove it. Spoiler about $25. at accessory shops. Roger ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: m14494@caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org:dg-smtp Date: ## 05/22/95 09:04 ## After hearing folk's comments about the edging, I put mine back on and paid close attention. It does help; it moves the "pocket" of quiet air up about 2 inches. I still get a lot of wind noise in my Shoei RF-200, but it's better with the edging than withiut it. If I drop my head a few inches, it gets real quiet. This is on an '89 with the original (short) windshield. I think a combination of a slightly taller windshield and the edging would be quite effective. Mike White '89 PC-800 "Pacific Coast" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 20:12:58 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Forwarded: PC800 Still looking for a PC 800, Preferably an 89 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 23 May 95 21:26:20 0700 From: Sam Hershfield To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Netscape: Netscape Handbook: Menu Items index ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 21:52:02 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: ey@forum.swarthmore.edu (E.Y. MurphEY) Subject: Re: Stealth edging the edging will be helpful if your under 6'0'' but the contact is at 1-800-TOURING for the Saeng/TA.... I think the wunglets hamper vision beyond safety and they don't mount well anyway don't know current $ good luck 88 {88} ey E.Y. MurphEY School District of Haverford Township 1801 Darby Rd. Havertown, PA 'within everything is the seed of it's apparent contradiction...by understanding their tension and balance, truth can be found" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 08:57 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Re: Stealth edging At 5'9" tall, sitting relatively upright, the winglets on my stock '89 windshield don't bother my vision in any way. The mounting was a problem, as I've related before, but I've now got that solved. I don't know how much the edging does, but if I had to give up one or the other I'd let the edging go first. I suspect that if you need only a small adjustment on your "envelope" size, the edging would be enough, while the winglets would be required for more radical changes. IMHO. Cory From owner-pc800 Thu May 25 13:57:16 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:57:03 -0400 To: st1100@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: H 1157 Halogen Bulbs - update On Thu, May 25, 1995 12:47:25 pm at cwoods@server.iadfw.net wrote: >Someone mentioned a replacement tail light bulb for the ST1100... > >Candlepower H 1157 ( H for Halogen ). > >Although I did find the standard filament Candlepower 1157 bulbs >available at my Honda dealership, they refused to order the >Halogen version because, " they may only be ordered in a ten >pack, and the retail cost (shown in the book) are $10.95 each). > >Unless I was going to buy 10, they wouldn't order them..... > >>From what I found out, differences in the bulbs (other than price) >was: > > 1157 3 / 32 > H 1157 15 / 55 > >Which means that on the tail light circuit, the H bulb is 5 times >brighter than standard..... > >Now, I've been thinking about replacing the front clearance/blinkers >as well.... that adds up to 4 bulbs... at almost $45.... > >Anyone have any experience with bulb life etc......... Similarly, does anyone know how to translate candlepower to watts? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800 Subject: Transmission weirdness Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:12:08 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Lately I've noticed that I'm missing many more shifts than normal. Sometimes I attempt to shift and the lever responds as if it's already in first or fifth, i.e. it moves to the stop with no resistance. I try again and eventually it catches. Any idea what might be causing this? The bike only has 5400 miles on it and I've never been particularly hard on it, though the transmission has always been 'chunky'. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 05:19:11 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Transmission weirdness On Mon, May 29, 1995 10:12:08 pm at Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >Lately I've noticed that I'm missing many more shifts than normal. >Sometimes I attempt to shift and the lever responds as if it's already in >first or fifth, i.e. it moves to the stop with no resistance. I try again >and eventually it catches. >Any idea what might be causing this? The bike only has 5400 miles on it >and I've never been particularly hard on it, though the transmission has >always been 'chunky'. My transmisssion is also 'chunky', on my '89 PC with 3400 miles. I read somewhere that synthetic oil can cause more missed shifts, though I have no experience one way, or the other. - Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:16:51 -0800 (AKDT) From: Juan Goula To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Transmission weirdness On Tue, 30 May 1995, J. Burach wrote: >>Lately I've noticed that I'm missing many more shifts than normal. >>Sometimes I attempt to shift and the lever responds as if it's already in >>first or fifth... > My transmisssion is also 'chunky', on my '89 PC with 3400 miles. I read > somewhere that synthetic oil can cause more missed shifts, though I have no > experience one way, or the other. I've used Mobil1 15W50 on mine after the first 3k miles (now has 9k) and the feeling in the gearbox did not change. It certainly is not a snick-snick shifter, but I don't think I've ever missed a shift (that wasn't my fault ;-) ). Maybe air in the hydraulic clutch line? Good luck. - Juan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:26 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: RE: Transmission weirdness I, too, have used all different types of oils and have never had any shifting problems, as Juan says, that weren't my own fault. That's in 20,000+ miles. If not a problem w/ the clutch it could just be something loose. Might be good to get it now before something serious develops. Cory From owner-pc800 Tue May 30 12:06:45 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:02 -0800 From: ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Wheel Bearings I believe it was Roger Prince who said he had changed wheel bearings several times {sorry, Roger, if it was someone else :') }. How did the need for front wheel bearings manifest itself? I've noticed that my "head shake" has returned. It went away when I had the new Metzler ML2 installed. I need to check the air pressure again, but if that isn't the problem, should I figure that after 20,000+ miles the bearings need replaced? The latest Motorcyclist {with the TRX-850 Yamaha on the cover} has a good article about suspension 'n' stuff. I noted what they said about bikes set up as tourers and about weight in the back having effect on "head shake." Yesterday I discovered that even 9 ears of corn and a 10# bag of flour in the trunk of the PC were enough to make the shake come on sooner and stronger. As the article said, though, just a hand back on the grip is enough to calm things down. Cory From owner-pc800 Tue May 30 12:27:42 1995 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Wheel Bearings (from ESTES@polar.eielson.af.mil (CORY)) (at Tue, 30 May 1995 09:02 -0800) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 30 May 95 12:26:05 CST Hi CORY (CORY), in <9505301704.AA03037@tcamc.uh.edu> on May 30 you wrote: > I believe it was Roger Prince who said he had changed wheel bearings several > times {sorry, Roger, if it was someone else :') }. Probably me. First time the rust leaking from the front bearings during a rainstorm gave them away. Second time a very slight click (felt, not heard) when slowing down for low-speed turns. > How did the need for front wheel bearings manifest itself? I've noticed > that my "head shake" has returned. It went away when I had the new Head shake is normally caused by: 1) low tire pressure. If not corrected soon enough, the tire will be affected and you have to replace it to get rid of the problem. 2) damaged suspension or frame. 3) too much weight on the rear tire. I've never seen or heard of bad bearings result in head shake. Not that it couldn't happen, but I think you'd figure it out from other problems sooner than a head shake problem... Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 30 May 95 10:47:43 PDT From: Ramin Keyvan To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Wheel Bearings > Yesterday I discovered that even 9 ears of corn and a 10# bag > of flour in the trunk of the PC were enough to make the shake come on > sooner and stronger. As the article said, though, just a hand back on > the grip is enough to calm things down. > > Cory > Cory, If, however, you do tend to take your hands off the handlebars occasionally, have you considered the possibility of a steering damper (ala the type used by sport-bike riders). While this makes parking-lot steering a little stiffer, you will find that the over-all handling of the bike will be more predictable. The question, of-course, is whether or not they make one for your bike. This information I do not have [sorry :')] Ramin Keyvan ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:36:36 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Transmission weirdness (fwd) I found this on the ST1100 FAQ (http://percy.rain.com:80/st1100/st1100_faq.html ). I have a feeling the transmissions are similar. - Jeff SHIFTING: On Internet I've seen comments about shifting problems. I used to agree. I couldn't blast off from a stop without missing a gear. After analyzing my shifting we (thanks dad!) found the problem -- the shifter is a reach. The tip of my boot didn't provide enough leverage -- upon moving my boot forward (heel of the boot ON the peg) my shifting problems have disappeared. No extra effort, just better leverage. I do think the ST shifts better after a fresh oil change and it shifts even better on synthetic oil. --------- Forwarded message ---------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, May 30, 1995 5:18:39 am From: jeffy3@nyc.pipeline.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Transmission weirdness On Mon, May 29, 1995 10:12:08 pm at Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >Lately I've noticed that I'm missing many more shifts than normal. >Sometimes I attempt to shift and the lever responds as if it's already in >first or fifth, i.e. it moves to the stop with no resistance. I try again >and eventually it catches. >Any idea what might be causing this? The bike only has 5400 miles on it >and I've never been particularly hard on it, though the transmission has >always been 'chunky'. My transmisssion is also 'chunky', on my '89 PC with 3400 miles. I read somewhere that synthetic oil can cause more missed shifts, though I have no experience one way, or the other. - Jeff with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:50:08 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:47:43 -0700 From: Jerry Kidby To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: FAQ? which of 1100+ lists? Havent been to this place yet, sure are a mess of them machines that run quiet and sort of look like a large scooter parked outside. I drive a 91 XR250L myself, use it for basic transport to and from work. Bought it new, just turned 10.000 miles - havent been in the dirt with it yet. Like I said it gets me there and is light enough I can push it home - no law against drinking and walking. :) Anyway, my whole cost of operation runs less than a bus pass so I choose to drive on 2 wheels year round and only park when it gets real icy, which may happen here in Portland a couple of days a year. The banana belt for m/c riding for sure! My little 250 hasnt been down, yet. Yeh, I know it will happen sooner or later. My first ride was a Vespa GS in 1960. Bought it used and laid it down daily (6 out of the first 7 days) Lost a front tooth and scarred my lip! Then in '64 I bought a new 650 BSA and raced with it wherever I could find competion while stationed at NAS Pensacola. Since then I've had a 65 650 BSA, 65 Yamaha 90, 72 Honda 250XL, 86 Shadow 700 (real nice machine which my eldest son has in England now). Somplace in between bikes I managed to get over a million miles on diesel trucks mostly Portland to Montana or Chicago or anyplace in California, Nevada, Arizona At the moment I am looking at a red PC w/spoilers, radio and bra that is all collecting dust in my garage. Dead battery, expired tags, no insurance and my second son owes me $2500 - kinda like collateral He spends his $ elswhere and I hold lhis bike . Someday I reckon it will be a good ride and I will most likely get it at a very good price. Well, here I am with a million questions (which list is the FAQ anyway?) Road my son's bike in here, tried to dirt track it along the way.. Amazing how that engine guard throws sparks when you get all crossed up in a power slide :) 50 + years old and I can still drive circles around my boys! Anyway, there's a case of Black Butte Porter in the right box and some Chevas in the left one. Help yourselves while ya assess my sliding damage and answer all those questions (once I find the FAQ - I will have a few) Hope this place is a little like r.m.h vb&g - I enjoy luking there, just cant bring myself to part with the initiation of 3-5000 over MSRP just to get in :) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 23:11:29 -0400 To: st1100@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Handy STory About Honda Motor Co On Wed, May 31, 1995 3:29:13 pm at George A Catt +1 708 979 9424 wrote: > In fact, the Pacific CoaST >was designed Honda of America Automobiles. Neat. I've thought that the sound the trunk makes when closed sounds just like a Civic :-) with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 31 May 1995 20:20:40 -0700 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:17:53 -0700 From: Jerry Kidby To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Handy STory About Honda Motor Co -Reply hard to pop a top with a civic like you can with the PC