********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:27:51 -0400 From: WkndRider@aol.com To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Introduction Hello everyone! I found out about this service a few days ago and thought I better get involved! It's always good to find other PC800 owners and find out about their machines! Name: Allen Fields Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Email: WkndRider@aol.com PC Model year (if you have one): 1990 Bought Used/New: Purchased new Modifications made to bike: Twin horns, Factory radio, J&M intercom with radio override, Corbin seat with factory backrest, factory trunk lights, heated grips, two electric vest thermostats, custom receiver type hitch, matching small cargo trailer. Have also been running on much better tires; Metzler ML2's, but I suspect most owners are by now. These seem to wear square on the rear faster than the factory Dunlops, but the adhesion and road feel are far superior. I look forward to hearing from group members. Send e-mail anytime and I'll.......... See 'ya down the road! Allen. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 06:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Harrison Spain - 714-952-6114 - Callback 3-772 03-Apr-1995 0739 Subject: Re: Introduction To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu > Name: Allen Fields > Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas > Email: WkndRider@aol.com > PC Model year (if you have one): 1990 > Bought Used/New: Purchased new > Modifications made to bike: Twin horns, Factory radio, J&M intercom with > radio override, Corbin seat with factory backrest, factory trunk lights, > heated grips, two electric vest thermostats, custom receiver type hitch, > matching small cargo trailer. Nice setup! :-) Where did you mount the horns? (assuming air horns) Harrison | Harrison M. Spain | Voice: (714) 952-6114 | | Systems Support Manager | Fax: (714) 952-5371 | | EDS Unigraphics | Internet: spain@ug.eds.com | | Cypress, CA 90630 | UUCP: ...uunet!ug!spain | ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rich Stucky" Subject: Re: Introduction To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 7:49:28 PDT Welcome to the group Allen, Could you tell me more about your heated grips installation, whose product, installation issues, how well do they work, etc. Rich Stucky stucky@twg.com >Email: WkndRider@aol.com >PC Model year (if you have one): 1990 >Bought Used/New: Purchased new >Modifications made to bike: Twin horns, Factory radio, J&M intercom with >radio override, Corbin seat with factory backrest, factory trunk lights, >heated grips, two electric vest thermostats, custom receiver type hitch, >matching small cargo trailer. > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Recent events/historical stuff (from NThompso@aol.com) (at Mon, 03 Apr 1995 18:01:44 -0400) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:29:02 CST Hi NThompso (NThompso), in <950403180142_70461353@aol.com> on Apr 03 you wrote: > I have been working on a new version of our Web page. I hope to be posting [...] > If you have any input, please let me know. I am trying to make this OUR Maybe consider that top picture first coming up as a thumbnail or somewhat smaller picture and then get the full thing on request? As to pictures, I haven't found my old picture of the PC undressed, but I did some maintenance on the bike over the weekend, and added the cutout for the Fiamm airhorns so they don't blast unless I want them to, and took some more pictures with the front fairing, 'gas tank', and airbox removed (had to do some carb work). I'll get the pictures scanned as soon as I can get them developed. Took pictures of: 1) Fiamm airhorns mounted in the fairing 2) diaphram horns mounted in the crashbars 3) The 'Wrist Rest' throttle lock, both mounted and taken apart 4) All the screws which required removing to get everything off :^) 5) various shots as I took the fairing apart. Hope to have them available by next week. (we'll see how they turn out :^( I was also thinking that maybe we might include a 'how-to' to remove all that plastic. It's pretty straight-forward, but there are a couple of tricks here and there. I'd say that the main thing to remember is specifically where each screw goes, as there are subtle differences in shoulder length on several that otherwise look alike. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 19:59:14 -0400 From: WkndRider@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Recent events/historical stuff Sounds like you've been having too much fun tracking P.C. info. down!! You likely already have these items, but I was in advertising at a local paper and I have copies of Honda's original line art artwork for use in ads. Has both '89 and '90 P.C.'s depicted. If you would like copies, drop me a line! See you down the road...... Allen. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Brandeau Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:00:50 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Recent events/historical stuff Here's about me: Greg Brandeau Palo Alto, CA 1989 PC800 15K miles Tall Windshield Bought it used at 9K Added: Corbin Seat with passenger back rest Halogen Tail Lights. Great bike! The difference between 50 and 100 is the ground goes by faster... -gtb ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 20:07:04 -0400 From: WkndRider@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Harrison, I mounted factory style horns in the pre-existing locations under the headlight. There are accomodations for two horns, but the bike only comes with one. I went to a salvage yard and purchased a matching set (one hi, one low) and brackets. Cleaned them up, painted them and attached them using Honda's bolts. Spliced the wiring, and now I have twice the sound! It really helps. See you down the road...... Allen. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 23:27:00 -0400 From: JoeM409970@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Introduction Greetings to the group from a new member: Joe Meisenhelder Edinboro, PA 1989 PC 800, Bought used, April 1994 w/ 10K miles. The bike is "stock" except for the addition of a tall windshield. Now @ 17K miles, mostly from a daily commute, May to October. In this part of the country (NW PA - just South of Lake Erie) riding time from October to May is limited for us faint of heart. I have used a "Battery Tender" this winter to keep the charge up for the few available riding days and have had good success - battery always at charge without overcharge or "boiling dry". Once the wiring has been attached to the battery terminals - a struggle, given the battery location - the charger can be disconnected and reconnected in a few seconds. Bye ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:08:31 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: thompson@trg.trglink.com (Neill Thompson) Subject: who pc800 who pc800 ***************************************************** Neill Thompson TRG Inc. 2929 N. Central Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85012 (602)263-4223 (602)263-4222 (fax) (602)582-6040 (home) nthompso@aol.com (home) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:19:43 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Hey bonehead Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I did it again. I sent my 'who' command to the list instead of the server. It is early. Sorry. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:29:22 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction >Greetings to the group from a new member: Hey welcome! I went to Allegheny College in nearby Medieval, PA. Riding in that part of the country certainly takes a stout heart. Between the rain and the snow, you must really work to get in 7K in a year. I got 'smart' and moved to Phoenix, AZ where if you go to the local Pep Boys and ask for a battery tender for the winter, they say, "huh". Boiling dry is what you have to worry about on a summer day in the sun! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Introduction (from NThompso@aol.com) (at Tue, 04 Apr 1995 11:29:22 -0400) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 10:51:09 CST Hi NThompso (NThompso), in <950404111941_71312685@aol.com> on Apr 04 you wrote: > I got 'smart' and moved to Phoenix, AZ where if you go to the local Pep Boys > and ask for a battery tender for the winter, they say, "huh". Boiling dry is > what you have to worry about on a summer day in the sun! Hey Neil, does this mean you carry a miniature water bag out in front of your radiator? :^) I found a miniature suction-cup windshield compass last week for when the guys razz me about my dashboard. Still looking for a miniature stick-on rear-view mirror and fuzzy dice. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:38:21 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Hey Neil, does this mean you carry a miniature water bag out in front of your radiator? :^) I found a miniature suction-cup windshield compass last week for when the guys razz me about my dashboard. Still looking for a miniature stick-on rear-view mirror and fuzzy dice. I carry the water in the trunk. I never thought about a desert water bag. Hmmm. I tried the compass. Before I settled on the stickon clock in the center of the tach, I mounted a rectangular compass-clock combination on top of the break fluid reservoir. Unfortunately something caused the compass to always point to the left. [I'll bet it has something to do with that pesky magnetisim (B-)# ] I took it back and got the simple clock. I remember on 'The Great Family Car Trip Out West', 25 years ago, we saw lots of desert water bags but I hardly ever see them any more. I guess the Igloo cooler people put an end to that industry. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Introduction (from NThompso@aol.com) (at Tue, 04 Apr 1995 15:38:21 -0400) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:56:21 CST Hi NThompso (NThompso), in <950404153339_71573417@aol.com> on Apr 04 you wrote: >> Hey Neil, does this mean you carry a miniature water bag out in front >> of your radiator? :^) I found a miniature suction-cup windshield >> compass last week for when the guys razz me about my dashboard. Still >> looking for a miniature stick-on rear-view mirror and fuzzy dice. > > I carry the water in the trunk. I never thought about a desert water bag. Guess I didn't put enough smiley's in that message. :^) :^) How's that? I.e., I was kidding about the razzing PC riders usually get from other motorcyclists about the 'Body by Acura', i.e. the dashboard, etc., so I'm always on the lookout for cute gadgets to bring to the SplatterFests (Tx.moto) to generate more discussion on the topic. I think you'd be better off keeping the water in the trunk or tankbag (for sipping on trips). > magnetisim (B-)# ] I took it back and got the simple clock. I remember on > 'The Great Family Car Trip Out West', 25 years ago, we saw lots of desert > water bags but I hardly ever see them any more. I guess the Igloo cooler > people put an end to that industry. Mainly it was antifreeze/overflow tanks that put an end to them. :^) Improved coolant systems allowed A/C to work in that heat. Besides, those water bags were used for more than just human consumption... My grandparents had a fruit orchard just north of the Sun mountains. We used to spend a few weeks out of every summer out there in the desert and used one of those bags more than once on the pickup. :^( Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800 Subject: Bad bike week Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 23:52:54 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Well, the past few days have sucked pretty hard for my poor bike. No, I didn't wreck it or even drop it, but now it's finally not "new". First after a sixteen hour day I come home and while backing into my parking space half asleep I manage to run into the bumper of a Pathfinder. Crunch. One nice hole in what looks like a real expensive piece of clear red plastic. Shit. Anyone know how much one of these taillight assemblies costs before I get ripped off? It's not really bad and I'll probably keep it this way for a while, but, well, *&*&^%)*(&)(*&&%^%$. And now, during the torrential rains we had the last couple of days, some Hispanic sorority on campus decides that I have an unequivocal need to know about their Monster Latino Jam Party. Joy. So they put the fluorescent mango flyer under the cargo netting on the rear seat. It rains. The bright red dye leeches out of the paper and stains my seat hot pink. I scrubbed with Comet (with bleach) for an hour and most of it came off. Still, that chaps my rear real good. Not fuming so much now, - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bmodlin@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Bruce C. Modlin) Subject: Re: Bad bike week To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:59:23 -0500 (CDT) > > Well, the past few days have sucked pretty hard for my poor bike. No, I > didn't wreck it or even drop it, but now it's finally not "new". > I haven't seen anything on the newsletter about your new bike, what happened to your old PC, details please. Did you get a good deal on the 95? > First after a sixteen hour day I come home and while backing into my > parking space half asleep I manage to run into the bumper of a Pathfinder. > Crunch. One nice hole in what looks like a real expensive piece of clear > red plastic. Shit. I had broken the turn signals light case on my Virago one two many times and taped it up with clear packing tape. It held and worked fine, might want to seal up the hole with that to keep water out. > > Anyone know how much one of these taillight assemblies costs before I get > ripped off? It's not really bad and I'll probably keep it this way for a > while, but, well, *&*&^%)*(&)(*&&%^%$. > > And now, during the torrential rains we had the last couple of days, some > Hispanic sorority on campus decides that I have an unequivocal need to know > about their Monster Latino Jam Party. Joy. So they put the fluorescent > mango flyer under the cargo netting on the rear seat. It rains. The > bright red dye leeches out of the paper and stains my seat hot pink. I > scrubbed with Comet (with bleach) for an hour and most of it came off. > Still, that chaps my rear real good. So how was the Monster Latino Jam Party?? Did they have any Pinatas hanging that you could hit while charging on your bike while doing a wheelie? You know, there this incident is proof that God or some supreme being has one hell of a sense of humor in order to put this chain reaction of events in order to mess with your new ride. When I first got my PC I was sitting on the bike in my garage with the door closed and my helmet on. I was adjusting the stereo and have speakers in the helmet. I also was pretending I was cruising down the coast highway and was probably making "vroom vroom" noises. I had kicked up the sidestand and then noticed a screw or a battery lying on the left side on the floor. I reach over as I was standing astride the bike. I leaned all the way over and picked up the item, then realized that the 600 pound bike was with me and I could not get back up. I yelled "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up". Meanwhile the stereo is blasting "Born to be Wild" while I hang, my nose inches from the floor, the bike ready to follow gravity and come crashing to the ground scraping all the bodywork and ruining my new toy. My wife heard my screams and ran out into the garage past me, she assumed the truck had fallen off the jack and pined me. She then saw me , pulled the bike back, took the key away and told me to put my toys away and go to bed. > Not fuming so much now, > > - J > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Bad bike week Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 14:27:02 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "BCM" == Bruce C Modlin writes: BCM> I haven't seen anything on the newsletter about your new bike, what BCM> happened to your old PC, details please. Did you get a good deal on BCM> the 95? No, that's just the thing. I had managed to keep everything pristine for an entire year. Until last week, that is. I did go to look at a '95 model, just to see if I should be drooling. I was pleased to find that they didn't change anything that I could see. Thus my bike escapes obsolescence for another year! BCM> So how was the Monster Latino Jam Party?? I didn't bother going, since I can get enough Tejano music by putting my ear against the wall at home. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 19:42:19 -0400 From: WkndRider@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Rich, Sorry for the long delay in responding to your question. I've gotten the job of a lifetime (working at a motorcycle dealership!), but it's been keeping me hopping all the time! RE the heated grips......... I purchased a product called "Hot Grips" from a local BMW dealer. This company makes grips for snowmobiles (which have same inner diameter on each grip) and for motorcycles (which has a larger throttle side grip). The grips are of a harder compound than the stock grips, but not uncomfortably so when gloves are worn (and I ride with gloves all the time). The grips look good and the stock bar end weights went on fine after I carefully cut a small hole in each grip for the weight to thread through. Looks clean and stock. The wires run under the handlebar covers and to a three position toggle switch (really ugly) that I put in the fairing pocket. The switch has Hi/off/Low settings. There is a resistor in the loop for the low setting. It is mounted to a subframe piece inside the fairing and in the airflow to dissipate heat. Probably the hardest part of the installation was getting the wiring to the hot terminal of the battery. As with any battery connection on the P.C., it is terribly difficult to get to the terminals without doing major disassembly of the bike. (Perhaps if I had, the job would have actually gone faster). All in all I have been satisfied with the heated grips. However, they are best used to ward off the chill on only mildly cold days, while using light gloves. With light gloves, for example when the sun goes down and the ride turns cool) the grips provide just enough heat to make the otherwise cool hands comfortable. But for cold weather heating, pass on these grips. Through thick gloves, the heating is marginal. I can feel plenty of heat in the palm of my hand and bottoms of my fingers, but the air across the top of my hands and fingers, pulls that heat away quickly. Even with the grips on Hi, riding for prolonged periods in 40 to 50 degree weather will result in very cold hands. But, here's what works. I purchased Widder electric gloves as a companion to my old trusty electric vest. These things are marvelous! I tried them first on a 10 hour ride to Minneapolis last month, and the ride was wet and cold. But when I stopped for gas and plugged in the gloves for the first time, the cold hands ended. It's not as if there is a really noticable heating, just that the gloves seem warm as if you've been wearing them for hours, only they feel that way immediately and the warmth doesn't fade after prolonged time in the wind. Also, the fingers I cover the brake with don't freeze due to being away from the heated grips. The gloves are definately the way to go! And for only about twice the price of the grips, and no installation, they provide ten times the comfort. In fact, I plan on removing the electric grips soon and putting on my factory grips again. They're a little softer and provide a more sure grip. Well, I hope my verbose answer tells you what you wanted about these. It's always good to hear from a fellow PCer. Let me know how it goes and.......... I'll see you down the road, Allen. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 21:50:26 -0400 From: Zoby@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: So Long PC800 With the help of this list server, I sold my PC800 today. A few weeks ago, Mike White posted a request asking if there were any PCs for sale in the Mid-Atlantic area. The same day, two ST1100's appeared in the paper. Two of my friends have STs and I've been envious. Now were even. I've enjoyed the information from this group and wish you all the best of luck. Keep the shiny side up and the cracks out of the plastic. Best regards, Toby Zellers Damascus Maryland ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: So Long PC800 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 22:20:14 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "TZ" == Zoby writes: TZ> With the help of this list server, I sold my PC800 today. Glad we could be of some help. Now: TRAITOR!!! Just kidding. I've often wondered if an ST is right for me. I think I'm just a little too short and that bike is awfully heavy. I really like what it has to offer, but I just can't see how it would fit into my riding pattern (mostly commuting) any better than the PC. That trunk is just too convenient. These days I find myself imagining a ZX-11 with big hard bags and drooling, but that would be an additional bike, not a replacement. TZ> The same day, two ST1100's appeared in the paper. I really wish someone would start selling some good bikes around here. I check the paper weekly (why not?) and all I see is Harleys and wrecked GOOF2s. BTW, there is an ST1100 mailing list which in fact I joined some time back but it seems to be _ultra_ low traffic. I think I've received one message in three months. Enjoy your new bike. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:12:26 -0400 From: Jeffy3@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: Zoby@aol.com Subject: PC800 v. ST1100 I've been looking for a PC800 in the New York City area. A number of people have tried to persuade me to go for the ST1100 instead. (A BMW K750RT is also a possibility.) So I'm very interested in hearing Zoby's direct comparisons. My difficulties with the ST are the same as Jason's: JLT3>I think I'm just a little too short and that bike is awfully heavy. I really like what it has to offer, but I just can't see how it would fit into my riding pattern (mostly commuting) any better than the PC. That trunk is just too convenient.< My riding is 80% inner-city, 20% weekend trips. Unbiased feedback anyone? - Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:58:45 -0400 From: Zoby@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 v. ST1100 Jason and Jeff both responded to my switch to an ST1100 with comments and questions. First of all, I'm 5'6" and just short of 200 lbs. From the spec sheets, the ST1100 is a bit heavier and 1" taller in the seat. I've got a buddy who bought a Corbin saddle for his ST, and he still has his old seat. I'm planning on having it re-apholstered (sp?) and have that inch removed. He recommended we send his old seat to Sargent (?) and they would re-do it for me, and it should be cheaper than a new Corbin. That should take care of the height. First of all, I originally had the tall Hondaline windshield which killed the PCs handling, especially in windy weather. I traded (thanks to this list-server) and the original equipment improved things. With the ST, the handling is much-MUCH better than the PC. I've got the original equipment Windshield on the PC, so now I'm curious what the features are of the aftermarket screens for the ST. The balance on the ST seams better than the PC. I need to do a 9 point turn in my single car garage to park my bike, and it seems easier with the ST. It's easier to support it while it's leaning. I think the center of gravity is lower. Getting either bike up on the center stand is about the same. The handling is much better. The ST carves whatever line you want through twisties. Think about turning and you're there. I'd recommend the PC for a beginner, but as you lean more and take faster turns, the advantage is clearly the ST's. The extra 3 gallons in the gas tank is great. I'll get home from work faster because I'll be stopping for gas every 4 days instead of every day & a half. I won't bring up acceleration and torque. The difference seems greater than 300 cc's. Finally, the most frustrating thing about the PC was the tabs and interlocking plastic thingy's that hold the skin on. I haven't skinned the ST yet, but I've been through the manual, and there is no huge chart showing the order of removal. On the PC's side, the bags can store more, and the clamshell is easier to access than the ST's saddle bags. The PC is quieter. The PC is less expensive. Both bikes turn heads. I pay tolls on the way to work, and I think getting to my quarters is easier on the PC. I'll be hanging out on this listserver for a while longer to offer more comparisons. Finally, Jason spoke of an ST list-server...Can you send me the address? Best regards, Toby Zellers Damascus Maryland ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 v. ST1100 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 22:57:04 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "TZ" == Zoby writes: TZ> First of all, I'm 5'6" and just short of 200 lbs. From the spec sheets, TZ> the ST1100 is a bit heavier and 1" taller in the seat. Wow, and you fit? I'm 5'10" with a 31.5" inseam and while I can flatfoot my PC I have to work to push it. TZ> With the ST, the handling is much-MUCH better than the PC. I've got the TZ> original equipment Windshield on the PC, so now I'm curious what the TZ> features are of the aftermarket screens for the ST. Rifle makes custom screens for both bikes; some prefer shorter screens for the ST. The '95 ST has two holes in the screen that I can't fathom. I often wonder if a different design for the PC shield (curving upward instead of downward, perhaps) might help. TZ> The balance on the ST seams better than the PC. This, along with the handling comment above, point out the biggest difference between the bikes. The ST is not just a PC with a bigger engine. There's a completely different design philosophy there. TZ> I'd recommend the PC for a beginner, but as you lean more and take TZ> faster turns, the advantage is clearly the ST's. For beginners, the PC has those bulletproof crash guards. TZ> Finally, Jason spoke of an ST list-server...Can you send me the TZ> address? >From Carl Paukstis's list of bike lists: ST1100: DESCRIPTION: Honda ST1100 Motorcycles Discussion / Newsletter DIGEST AVAILABLE? No ADMIN ADDRESS: jalexand@netcom.com TO SUBSCRIBE: Processed by a human - INCLUDE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS LIST OWNER: jalexand@netcom.com WWW URL: (none) Both bikes have their ups and downs. for the ST it's mainly weight and price. The PC is also heavy and isn't an incredible performer but it has its own charm. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: PC800 v. ST1100 (from Jeffy3@aol.com) (at Sun, 09 Apr 1995 20:12:26 -0400) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:58:32 CST Hi Jeffy3 (Jeffy3), in <950409201221_77465986@aol.com> on Apr 09 you wrote: > I've been looking for a PC800 in the New York City area. A number of people > have tried to persuade me to go for the ST1100 instead. (A BMW K750RT is > also a possibility.) So I'm very interested in hearing Zoby's direct > comparisons. > > My riding is 80% inner-city, 20% weekend trips. > Unbiased feedback anyone? Don't know about 'unbiased', but I'd stay with the PC with those percentages, especially if it's just you riding it. As I've mentioned numerous times, the PC stock suspension components are trash. Honda built a bike that really could handle fairly well, but went and destroyed that handling with the rear shocks, the lack of a fork brace, and a 15" rear tire. Seems to me someone along the way change 'who' the bike was directed at :^) Though that 15" tire may just be a carry-over from it's heritage... With decent components, the PC can outmanuever an ST hands down in rush-hour traffic and will survive a set-down with a fraction of the damage that an ST would likely sustain. But it would take one heck of a lot of work to get the PC to handle as well as an ST at speed. And it won't be able to carry a passenger as well as the ST. As to a K75, if you think the PC has a tall center of gravity... I honestly think the K75's CG is about 6 inches higher than the PC. As to the rest, 'different strokes' :^) I almost bought a K75S just before I found my $5000 'still-in-the-crate' '90 PC :^) I'm glad I got the PC after having more exposure to K75's, but that just personal opinion and my need to have a bike that has some semblance of handling ability... Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:23:24 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: So Long PC800 Thanks, Toby. Enjoy the ST. Mike "Smiling broadly, gettin' bug in my teeth" White _______________________________________________________________________________ ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Subject: So Long PC800 From: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu at -smtp- Date: 4/8/95 9:50 PM With the help of this list server, I sold my PC800 today. A few weeks ago, Mike White posted a request asking if there were any PCs for sale in the Mid-Atlantic area. The same day, two ST1100's appeared in the paper. Two of my friends have STs and I've been envious. Now were even. I've enjoyed the information from this group and wish you all the best of luck. Keep the shiny side up and the cracks out of the plastic. Best regards, Toby Zellers Damascus Maryland ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Harrison Spain - 714-952-6114 - Callback 3-772 Subject: Re: So Long PC800 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu > TZ> With the help of this list server, I sold my PC800 today. Yikes! ;-) I looked over some old BMWs this weekend (you never forget your first love; in my case a real beast of an R50). But... I don't think I can part with my PC800 :-). > Just kidding. I've often wondered if an ST is right for me. I think I'm > just a little too short and that bike is awfully heavy. I really like what > it has to offer, but I just can't see how it would fit into my riding > pattern (mostly commuting) any better than the PC. That trunk is just too > convenient. You gotta *love* the extra power but the trunk has me spoiled big time too! Even a Gold Wing seems inadequate next to the PC800. Now if I could only get a good back rest for the rider somewhere... Harrison ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:19:09 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Just got a PC800; a few questions, please... Just got an '89 PC-800 from one of the members of this list (thanks, Toby!). I upgraded from a much older Yamaha, and I'm just loving the PC; much more stable, confortable, powerful, there's all that trunk space, and what a looker! A couple of question for the group, if you please: There are a few scratches on the side of the trunk from a previous mishap. Any advice about somehow buffing them out, or otherwise making them less noticable? There has been some talk about louder horns, but I didn't keep copies. What's available? I'm considering an alarm, as I frequently park it in public parking lots. Any experience or advice? Thanks. Mike White ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:22:54 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; ... About the scratches...I had a pretty serious tip-over and scuffed up my crash bar covers pretty badly. I used a hand file and sandpaper to take out the scratches and then used some automotive touchup paint. It worked pretty well except for a one thing. I got two small runs in the paint. Rather than let them dry that way, I wiped them up. I was surprised to see the wet paint lifted some of the finish underneath. This wasn't too bad since I can always go and buy a new cover when I have nothing better to do with $35 (each) and it looks 1000% better than it did. This probably isn't much help since I wouldn't suggest trying this on a major body piece like the trunk lid and I think the silver parts are alot easier to touchup than the black. But then I guess I am thinking black and sliver and not red or pearl. Anyway, I thought this might provoke some discussion on the finish on the body. A long time ago I posted my observation that it appears that the upper of my boot was rubbing some of the finish off the body panel just below the inside of my knee. Nobody had any input on that one but then that was pretty early on and we have grown quite a bit since then. Regarding the alarm, I looked into it at a local car alarm shop and they implied that they could hide a mercury switch somewhere on the bike and wire i t into the horn so that if the bike were righted off of the side-stand, the horn would sound. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bmodlin@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Bruce C. Modlin) Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; a few questions, please... To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:25:10 -0500 (CDT) > > Just got an '89 PC-800 from one of the members of this list (thanks, Toby!). I > upgraded from a much older Yamaha, and I'm just loving the PC; much more stable, > confortable, powerful, there's all that trunk space, and what a looker! A couple > of question for the group, if you please: Your windshield came from my bike, we traded I needed the tall one but did prefer the looks and handleing of the regular one. > > There are a few scratches on the side of the trunk from a previous mishap. Any > advice about somehow buffing them out, or otherwise making them less noticable? > I bought the 2 colors of touchup paint from the dealer, Pearl white and metal grey. They come in nail polish like jars. Several light coats cover best. Wet sand lightly if you must. > There has been some talk about louder horns, but I didn't keep copies. What's > available? There has been talk about installing air horns, also J.C.Whitney has electric horns for upgrade. > I'm considering an alarm, as I frequently park it in public parking lots. Any > experience or advice? I'd move! , the kryptonite front fork locks seem to work well, but if a guy has a truck and somebody to help pick up the bike its going away, alarm or not. I'd buy insurance and a new bike, can not change the laws of phyiscs. > Thanks. > > Mike White > > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:15:24 -0400 From: Jeffy3@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Wing guards inquiry I have a question about the engine guards on the PC800. I understand these do an adequate job of protecting the plastic, in the event of a tip-over. Are these sufficient, however, for leg protection? I've found the large crash bars on my CB650 to be a very worthwhile safety feature. Also, is there a good place on the frame for a lock to thread through? Finally, how easy is routine maintainence, i.e., oil/filter changes, plugs etc? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:07:12 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; ... I am looking for a PC800, specifically I am looking for an 89 if possible. You talk about a list, can you forward me that list? Thanks ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; a few questions, please... (from m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White)) (at Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:19:09 -0400 (EDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:55:24 CST Hi Michael (Michael J White), in <199504112019.QAA11178@mwunix.mitre.org> on Apr 11 you wrote: > There has been some talk about louder horns, but I didn't keep copies. What's > available? A number of options are available if you are willing to remove the front covers. I was supposed to get some pictures scanned of my air horns, but I had to take off work most of this week to get the base for my house finished and marked off for the concrete workers this weekend. I have the pictures and can get them scanned pretty quickly once I make it back to work. Maybe Thursday or Friday. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; ... Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 23:08:42 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "D" == DonRafael writes: D> I am looking for a PC800, specifically I am looking for an 89 if D> possible. It really helps if we know where you are or how far you're willing to go to get one. There's an '89 still for sale in Houston, TX that seems to be in good shape for $3500. I sent a message describing it a couple of weeks ago; grab it from the archives if you want details. D> You talk about a list, can you forward me that list? We regularly post about bikes we see for sale; in addition I think the Honda Sport Touring Association newsletter carries for sale ads which some kind soul occasionally posts excerpts of. There is no electronic listing as far as I know. --- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@tcamc.uh.edu - 713/743-8687 - 221SR1 System Admin: Texas Center for Advanced Molecular Computation 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 GM/CS/S d--- -p+ c++++ l++ u+++ e+ m---(++) n--- s/-- h* f+ g+ w+ t- r- y+** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:55:43 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: Just got a PC800; ... >I am looking for a PC800, specifically I am looking for an 89 if possible. > You talk about a list, can you forward me that list? I was referring to this mailing list. There is no "for sale" list, as far as I know. Not a bad idea, though. I know of one '89 for sale in the Richmond, VA area. Is that anywhere near you? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:40:47 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; ... I am in Augusta, GA... I am not sure how far I am willing to go... I have family in Houston, TX By the way, I am not sure how to get into the archives... I am new at the AOL and am still learning.. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:57:26 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: Just got a ... I am in Augusta GA, Richmond VA would not be all that far... Not sure of the actual mileage ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Just got a PC800; ... Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:50:26 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "D" == DonRafael writes: D> I am in Augusta, GA... I am not sure how far I am willing to go... Well, how bad do you want one? D> I have family in Houston, TX Well, have them call Pasadena Honda (713-941-5920) and make sure the bike is still there. (Pasadena is adjacent to Houston.) D> By the way, I am not sure how to get into the archives... I am new at D> the AOL and am still learning.. The instructions were included in the document you should have received when you subscribed, but I'll put this here in case anyone has forgotten. First, you can FTP to tcamc.uh.edu in /pub/pc800/list-archive. If you don't have access to FTP, you can use the email server. Send the command "index pc800" to majordomo@tcamc.uh.edu. Find the files you want then send "get pc800 ". Simple. Hopefully the size of the files won't overload your mailer. It shouldn't bother any rational implementation. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:05:44 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Vanity plate needed I want to get vanity plates for my PC800, but I'm having trouble comming up with something cool to put on it. Here in VA, you get 6 characters including dash or space. I wanted to do "PACIFIC", but that's one too many letters. Other nominations have included "PACFIC" (Pack Fick? What the heck is 'Pack Fick'?), and "CA DRM" (for California Dreamin', but see, if I have to explain it...) . "PC-800" fits, but it's a little cryptic for the unenlightened. I also thought of "COAST", but it makes it look like my engine has quit. Any other ideas? Thanks. Mike "New PC-800 owner, and it shows" White ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed (from m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White)) (at Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:05:44 -0400 (EDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 16:15:51 CST Hi Michael (Michael J White), in <199504132106.RAA29851@mwunix.mitre.org> on Apr 13 you wrote: > I want to get vanity plates for my PC800, but I'm having trouble comming up with ... > of "COAST", but it makes it look like my engine has quit. Any other ideas? 'COAST' fits pretty good because you can't find or hear the engine yet it still manages to get around pretty well. Or how about 'DNHILL' :^) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:25:13 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed >I want to get vanity plates for my PC800, but I'm having trouble comming up with >something cool to put on it. Here in VA, you get 6 characters including dash or >space. I wanted to do "PACIFIC", but that's one too many letters. Other >nominations have included "PACFIC" (Pack Fick? What the heck is 'Pack Fick'?), >and "CA DRM" (for California Dreamin', but see, if I have to explain it...) . >"PC-800" fits, but it's a little cryptic for the unenlightened. I also thought >of "COAST", but it makes it look like my engine has quit. Any other ideas? >Thanks. How about using the plate as one word in a phrase, with the rest of the phrase on the license-plate frame? For example, On the frame: "Honda Pacific" Plate: "COAST" On the frame: "California Dreamin'" Just a thought - it's tougher to come up with something amusing with only 6 characters......... Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:48:51 PDT From: Ramin Keyvan To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed >How about using the plate as one word in a phrase, with the rest of the >phrase on the license-plate frame? For example, > >On the frame: "Honda Pacific" > >Plate: "COAST" > >On the frame: "California Dreamin'" > >Just a thought - it's tougher to come up with something amusing with only 6 >characters......... > >Cheers - Spencer > > > >Spencer Farrow >Compensation Researcher >Radford Associates/A&ACG >sfarrow@radford.com Good thought Spencer, or how about: On the frame: California On the plate: GO WEST On the frame: Dreamin' Cheers, Ramin Keyvan Sr. Administrative Assistant Teknekron Software Systems, Inc. ramin@tss.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800 Subject: Kent's naked bike Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:01:24 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Kent has provided some images of his bike without portions of its clothing. They are moderately large jpegs and are available from ftp://sina.tcamc.uh.edu/pub/pc800. Pertty neat, though I don't think I've seen an uglier sight. It's like looking at your friends' internal organs. Thanks, Kent. -J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:14:23 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed Mike: I thought that since your bike or at least parts of it have been around the group quite a bit that we ought to adopt it as official list mascot. That would make you the KOTLB (keeper of the list bike). Do you have a name for your bike? I know Jason has named his bike something which means black cat in Japaneese. I saw Pearl go by which is a good name for an '89. I named my bike "Little Wing" which plays on the Gold Wing and also the lyrics to the Jimi Hendrix song of the same name. If you name your bike, then the plate may be easy. My girlfriend named her FZR600 Mavrick. From the movie, the line is, "That was fast, I thought that was fast, didn't you think that was fast? I think that was fast!" Anyway a few suggestions for the plate anyway. LEFTY (as in left coast) PACRIM (Pacific Rim, We tend to forget that Japan has a Pacific Coast too.) WIRED (a tribute to the list!) EBIKE (like email!) TOURIN (touring) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: '89 PC for sale!!!!maybe From: danny.lane@techtips.com (Danny Lane) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:39:00 -0600 I saw a message from a gentleman from Augusta,GA looking for a PC. I am seriously considering sellin mine. First my excuses: 1. New Baby 2. Work to darn much 3. Could use the cash 4. Want to fulfill a childhood dream of owning a early 70's Yamaha Twin 125 (including the restoration process) Now about my 1989 Pacific Coast: 1. White of course 2. Has every option Honda offered, except extended windshield Hondaline/Kenwood Stereo w/fairing speakers Matching Full coverage Hondaline Helments J&M in helmet headsets J&M Intercom system Rear spoiler Rear Backrest Trunk carpets Trunk lights Front mudflap Honda Pacific Coast Helmet Bags (note every option is Hondaline except Intercom, Headsets, and helmet bags). My pride and joy has 3800 actual miles, has been garage kept, never dropped or scratched, and driven only by this 40 year old owner. This is a great bike so please let me know if there is any interest! -danny ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bmodlin@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Bruce C. Modlin) Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!!maybe To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 21:24:42 -0500 (CDT) > > I saw a message from a gentleman from Augusta,GA looking for a PC. > I am seriously considering sellin mine. First my excuses: > 1. New Baby > 2. Work to darn much > 3. Could use the cash > 4. Want to fulfill a childhood dream of owning a early 70's > Yamaha Twin 125 (including the restoration process) > Now about my 1989 Pacific Coast: > 1. White of course > 2. Has every option Honda offered, except extended windshield > Hondaline/Kenwood Stereo w/fairing speakers > Matching Full coverage Hondaline Helments > J&M in helmet headsets > J&M Intercom system > Rear spoiler > Rear Backrest > Trunk carpets > Trunk lights > Front mudflap > Honda Pacific Coast Helmet Bags > (note every option is Hondaline except Intercom, Headsets, > and helmet bags). > My pride and joy has 3800 actual miles, has been garage kept, never > dropped or scratched, and driven only by this 40 year old owner. > This is a great bike so please let me know if there is any interest! > -danny I would venture a guess that this is the best kept 89 PC left in the known world. I would travel to pick this up if I wanted one (already have one) Interested in what price you would pick, I assume that the blue book price would not apply due to the options. 5K?? > ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Brandeau Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:16:14 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: FS '89 PC 1989 Honda Pacific Coast 15K miles Excellent condition White (obviously) Tall Hondaline windshield New Tires (Dunlops) Corbin Seat New Battery New Brakes Halogen tail lights $4K Greg Brandeau 415-780-2935 Palo Alto, CA ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:27:42 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: ey@forum.swarthmore.edu (EY MurphEY) Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed I have that 93 version and it's just called "ZERO" ...maye to taunt the opposition of German, Italian, and quasi-american bike... nothing like a zero...you have nothing but it's still whole... works for me ey Lov ey {88} ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: FS '89 PC Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:14:15 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "GB" == Greg Brandeau writes: GB> 1989 Honda Pacific Coast 15K miles Excellent condition [...] Aaaaahhhhhh! Where were all of these bikes when I was trying to find one used. I looked for months! Not one for sale message on this list while I was searching in vai.... oops, oh yeah. Well, too bad I don't need a second machine. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:49:52 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: Vanity plate needed >I thought that since your bike or at least parts of it have been around the >group quite a bit that we ought to adopt it as official list mascot. That >would make you the KOTLB (keeper of the list bike). It is with great humility that I accept the august position of KOTLB. 'White Lightning' and I will strive to embody the principals that led us all to feel that the PC is the coolest bike on the road! [You asked whether my bike had a name; all my bikes have been "Lightning" of one color or another, all the way back to "Red Lightning", my first pedal 2-wheeler; so what do you want, I was just a kid!] About the vanity plates; keep those cards and letters comming! Thanks. Mike, Keeper Of The List Bike '89 PC-800 [unmodified, all original, first-year-of-issue], The List Bike ...Red Lightning would be *so* proud ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:18:54 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Kent's naked bike >Kent has provided some images of his bike without portions of its clothing... >...I don't think I've seen an uglier sight. It's like looking at your friends' >internal organs. Too true. Thanks, Kent (I think...). Boy, beauty really *is* only skin deep. Mike KOTLB ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: blair@mpd.tandem.com (David Blair) Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:58:51 -0500 (CDT) > > I want to get vanity plates for my PC800, but I'm having trouble comming up with [snip] how 'bout "FATBUT"? was my bike's name 'till i spread her across a good portion of arkansas :-( blair -- ____________________________________________________________________________ David Blair Tandem Computers 512/432-8106 14231 Tandem Blvd. blair@isd.tandem.com Austin, TX 78728 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:11:54 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed In the FATBUT vein, my SO suggested DUMBO. It is big and slow with a wide end and it has a trunk. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!!maybe (from danny.lane@techtips.com (Danny Lane)) (at Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:39:00 -0600) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:39:29 CST Hi Danny (Danny Lane), in <2954.30.uupcb@techtips.com> on Apr 13 you wrote: > I saw a message from a gentleman from Augusta,GA looking for a PC. [...] > My pride and joy has 3800 actual miles, has been garage kept, never > dropped or scratched, and driven only by this 40 year old owner. I've got almost 42,000 miles on my PC, and the right case protector and both footpegs are ground down from heavy cornering, paint's starting to fade a bit, but I have an awesome set of horns. Wanna trade? :^) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Kent's naked bike (from Jason L Tibbitts III ) (at Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:01:24 -0500) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:54:01 CST Hi Jason (Jason L Tibbitts III), in <9504132301.AA25078@tcamc.uh.edu> on Apr 13 you wrote: > Kent has provided some images of his bike without portions of its clothing. > They are moderately large jpegs and are available from > ftp://sina.tcamc.uh.edu/pub/pc800. > > Pertty neat, though I don't think I've seen an uglier sight. It's like > looking at your friends' internal organs. Here are the files: 109469 PCnudelf.jpg - left side - fairing, engine covers and 'tank' removed old diaphram horn behind case guards. 61997 PCnuderr.jpg - rear view of disassembled trunk 92432 PCnudert.jpg - like left view, but instr. cover removed also. old diaphram horn behind case guards. 88704 PCnudetp.jpg - top left view. Airbox gone, shows airhorn compressor mount. 43499 WristRest.jpg - Modified BMW Wrist Rest Throttle lock disassembled. 144194 airhorns.jpg - front view showing air horns (pic got messed up somehow) Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:09:45 -0400 From: GSMcQueen@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Vanity plate needed / for sale? I have often thought of the names Balooga!, Orca, Moby, and other whale like names. All this interest, it must be spring, maybe I should sell mine! '89, 13K mi., driving lights, SEANG-stealth, $3.8K w/o J&M-cb/stereo/intercom ......$4.5K with the J&M. (It could use a new rear tire.) Only 2 more months 'til my 3 week "E" ticket ride in Europe with Armonk/Eidelweiss on an r1100rs! I'm also thinking of going ST1100 if I sell my PC. Greg McQueen (GSMcQueen@AOL.COM) Conifer, Co. 303-674-5168 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:46:44 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!... I am not sure if you got my last message on your bike... I tried to address it to danny.lane@techtips.com I am interested in your bike, but even with the low mileage, 5K is a little high. If you would like me to call you and talk in person, please provide me with your phone #. By the way, what part of the country do you live? Look forward to hearing from you ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:22:51 -0400 From: GSMcQueen@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: jalexand@netcom.com, Jim_Petersen@maxtor.com Subject: '89 PC800 FOR SALE. I made the big choice. FOR SALE '89 PC800 Great Condition 11,000 mi. , 55watt driving lights, 80/100 in main headlight. Throttle lock/cruise control, SAENG/stealth edging. I will be buying an ST1100 (used) so I will need to keep my J&M set up. Denver, Colorado AREA (Conifer) $3850.00. Greg McQueen, via this list server on the net. GSMcQueen@AOL.COM (if you know anyone in the market.) 303-674-5168hm 303-896-9904wk Skypage pin 5292288 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Vanity Plate Ideas From: danny.lane@techtips.com (Danny Lane) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 95 14:17:00 -0600 As for a vanity plate......FATBUT is funny, DUMBO is dumb....... So I just tryed to think what the PC is......it is UNIQUE (that would work....or how about this YBNRML (Why be normal)..... In my opinion, the PC is a motorcyle to hold on to (not going to sale mine after all). Even though Honda has reintroduced a different color this past year, I don't see alot of them on the road, every person I come in contact with says "I have never seen a motorcycle like that" Before I bought mine, I got my hands on every article I found on this bike......with the exception of the price, most everything was positive. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 13:40:58 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Stealth edging >...SAENG/stealth edging. What's the deal with this stuff. I have an '89 PC-800 with stock windshield, and that edging. It doesn't seem to do much. Wondering if I have it installed right. Does the side with the 'lip' go on the front or back of the windshield? What exactly is it supposed to do? Thanks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 13:40:59 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Vanity Plate Ideas >...with the exception of the price, most everything was positive. As a new PC-800 owner, I agree. The PC is one of the most balanced bikes I've encountered in 25 years of riding; it does everything remarkably well. There are lots of bikes that are quicker/faster, some that handle better, and some that are more comfortable (not many, though). But none I've ever seen combine all those qualities so well. I recently rode a friend's VFR-750, and another friend's CBR-600F2. Both of these bikes leave the PC in the dust; they'll pull your arms off. But when we get where we're going, I'm fresh and rested, and my two friends are hunched over with the Crotch Rocket Cramps. Then they hobble over to my PC and ask if they can put their helmets in my trunk. The PC is the best all-around bike I've seen, to say nothing of being the coolest looking. Again, many thanks for the vanity plate ideas. Right now, COAST is the front runner. I'll keep you posted. Mike "Grinning Broadly" White ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Stealth edging Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:55:51 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "MJW" == Michael J White writes: MJW> What's the deal with this stuff. Well, for me it adds three inches to the air cap, which means greatly increased riding comfort. I lent it to a friend who put it on his PC for a day and I had to fight him to get it back. MJW> Does the side with the 'lip' go on the front or back of the MJW> windshield? The lip faces forwards. MJW> What exactly is it supposed to do? Well, it supposedly creates a shear layer that acts as an extension to the windshield, or somesuch. It works for me, but not so much for some. I think the distinction is in your height and riding position; I'm 5'10" and ride forward with plenty of weight on my hands. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:07:33 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Stealth edging I tried the stealth edging and I thought that it worked to create a bit larger (taller) envelope of still air behind the windshield. Ultimately I returned it to the vendor for a refund because I didn't like the way that it cut across my field of vision. Normally, I look over the top edge of the windshield but when close behind a car, it felt like the edging was cutting through the taillight part of my field of vision. I thought that COAST was a pretty good suggestion for the tag but I thought of one more. How about SHAFTY? It is not PC specific ie there are lots of shaft drive bikes out there but...How about EUREKA (Now that you've found it). No vacuum cleaner jokes please. I am assuming that you all know the differance between a Hoover and a Harley! (Have you checked to see if any of these are already taken?) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:37:33 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!... Have not heard back from you if you are reconsidering selling your bike. I would like to discuss it with you ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Greg Brandeau Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:15:06 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!... I'm sorry, as I recall I sent you mail telling you I live in Palo Alto, CA. It is still for sale. 1989 Honda Pacific Coast 15K miles Excellent condition New Tires (Dunlops) Corbin Seat New Battery New Brakes Halogen tail lights White (obviously) Water cooled 800cc V-twin. Shaft drive. (Obviously) $4K Begin forwarded message: ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:37:33 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com Subject: Re: '89 PC for sale!!!... To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Have not heard back from you if you are reconsidering selling your bike. I would like to discuss it with you 20 Apr 1995 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by UG.EDS.COM From: _spain@UG.EDS.COM (Harrison Spain) Subject: BMW wrist rest To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu I thought I would pass along my experiences with the BMW wrist rest :-). Thanks to this mailing list, I didn't waste my time *and* hack up my PC with those clamp type devices! I came real close to getting a clamp type and even had one on order. Luckily I read Kent Polk's article on the BMS wrist rest first! :-) I must admit that when I walked into the BMW dealership, I felt a bit out of place but I knew just what I wanted (I was holding a printout of Kent's article) :-). I marched right up to the desk and said I wanted a 15.5mm Wrist rest! "No problem!" he says and hands me a box with the wierdest looking device I've seen in a while... $59.95... gulp... I looked up at him with that "If I'm going to pay that kind of money, are you *sure* this is a 15.5mm wrist rest?" but yep it was printed right on the box (I was beginning to think someone had snagged the real device and placed this odd part in the box). I must have spent 5-10 minutes just staring at it trying to think how would this *fit* on my motorcycle and how the heck would it work as a cruise control? After the parts guy started wondering if I would *ever* plop down my $60, I threw caution to the wind and took out my credit card. When I got home, I unscrewed the weight (my PC is an '89 and has a phillips bolt) and looked at the end of the handlebar. I then proceeded to stare a bit longer. I was convinced I had the wrong part! I called the dealership and they (nice folks) said to bring it back and they would help me figure out what was wrong. I took it back and they were convinced I had the wrong part too (it only works on BMWs etc. etc.). I did benefit from the tip however since I learned how the thing actually works. It's obvious once you know but if you have never seen one before, and are only used to the clamp beasties, it can take some getting used to! They wanted to sell me a larger diameter model but I trusted in Kent's note and kept the 15.5mm model. You see the knulrled piece screws up against the wooden piece that presses against the throttle grip and the friction causes the throttle to stick a bit (actually as much as you want). I must sound like a lunatic but that's how it works! ;-) Now the part about cutting off the shaft made more sense *but* in my case the shaft on the wrist rest needed to be trimmed down to 8mm, not the 14.5mm that worked for Kent! I have a neighbor that does nice machining work and he did the job for me. :-) A couple of glitches however. The first glitch was that you need to cut a half-circle 2mm in depth from the end in order to "mate" with the handlebar core. The second problem was that the bolt kinda rattles around in the hollow tube. Luckily my neighbor was able to machine a plug that fit tightly in the tube with a hole in the plug for the bolt. After these modifications, the device fit perfectly! Well, truth be told, I mis-measured it by a couple of millimeters (the actual measurement should have been 6mm with a half-circle down to 4mm). I'm not sure if I should count my blessings and leave it alone. The 2mm is not that big a dseal and it *does* work perfectly. The small pin is on the top and I suppose that is good (less likely to fall out) but for aesthetics, I'd like it on the bottom (a bit of miscommunication with my machinist) ;-). Using a trottle lock that screws takes some getting used to. I like the infinite adjustment you can have though. I can set it so that there is just a bit of friction for around town and then lock it down a bit more for cruising at highway speeds. I suspect my gas mileage will improve since it tends to make me more consistent and less "turn the throttle to the max" on startup. It looks terrific and is well worth the price. I would recommend this approach to anyone with a PC but be prepared for a bit of machining before install. If Honda were to modify these puppies for the PC, I think they would sell a bundle! | Harrison M. Spain | Voice: (714) 952-6114 | | Systems Support Manager | Fax: (714) 952-5371 | | EDS Unigraphics | Internet: _spain@ug.eds.com | | Cypress, CA 90630 | UUCP: ...uunet!ug!_spain | ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:36:52 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: BMW wrist rest >I came real close to getting a clamp type... The PC I just bought (the redoubtable List Bike :-) came with a clamp-type throttle lock already installed. I like it a lot, as I'm able to turn it on and off as needed. You can still make fine adjustments to the throttle even when it's "locked", and you can flip it off in an instant with your thumb. Only down side is that whoever installed it cracked the handlebar housing (seems you have to cut away a small rectangle out of the housing to make room for the clamp), and I had to stop-drill it to keep it from cracking further; it's not a pretty sight, but it's small and not very noticable. Glad the Beemer friction gadget is working for you, but I'm not sure I'd like constant friction like that. Mike, KOTLB ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: BMW wrist rest (from _spain@UG.EDS.COM (Harrison Spain)) (at Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 17:19:29 CST Hi Harrison (Harrison Spain), in on Apr 20 you wrote: > I thought I would pass along my experiences with the BMW wrist rest :-). > model but I trusted in Kent's note and kept the 15.5mm model. You see the > knulrled piece screws up against the wooden piece that presses against the Wooden?? It's aluminum on mine...You sure??? > throttle grip and the friction causes the throttle to stick a bit (actually > as much as you want). I must sound like a lunatic but that's how it works! > ;-) > > Now the part about cutting off the shaft made more sense *but* in my case > the shaft on the wrist rest needed to be trimmed down to 8mm, not the > 14.5mm that worked for Kent! I have a neighbor that does nice machining Hmmm. What year do you have. Wouldn't think this would matter much. > work and he did the job for me. :-) A couple of glitches however. The > first glitch was that you need to cut a half-circle 2mm in depth from the > end in order to "mate" with the handlebar core. The second problem was On mine I have the handgrip glused so they initially extended about a centimeter past the end of the throttle tube slide. This way, you don't have to cut a groove because the ring presses the handgrip up to the slide tube and then the slide tube pretty much stops things from there. > that the bolt kinda rattles around in the hollow tube. Luckily my neighbor I don't understand this. The bolt should be holding the Wrist Rest core very solidly up against the handlebar core. Unless... Unless the bolt is too long maybe? I'm using a bit shorter bolt now than I the original one. > not that big a dseal and it *does* work perfectly. The small pin is on the > top and I suppose that is good (less likely to fall out) but for on mine, I can rotate the device any direction. The bolt simply holds it in whatever direction I want it to remain. (I keep it pointed down.) > If Honda were to modify these puppies for the PC, I think they would sell a > bundle! I talked to them about doing one for Hondas, but they weren't interested. I ought to go into business making them. :^) BTW, I included a picture of the Wrest Rest parts as they now exist in those pictures of the PC I uploaded recently. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: BMW wrist rest (from m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White)) (at Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:36:52 -0400 (EDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 17:22:48 CST Hi Michael (Michael J White), in <199504211849.OAA28475@mwunix.mitre.org> on Apr 21 you wrote: (Wrist Rest) > working for you, but I'm not sure I'd like constant friction like that. The Wrist Rest is pretty much infinitely adjustable, which includes 'no friction'. All you do is just back the thing off a little more. Maybe I need to provide a closeup of the Wrist Rest as mounted??? Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu 22 Apr 1995 21:11:07 -0700 (PDT) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by UG.EDS.COM From: _spain@UG.EDS.COM (Harrison Spain) Subject: Re: BMW wrist rest To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu >Hi Harrison (Harrison Spain), in >on Apr 20 you wrote: > >> I thought I would pass along my experiences with the BMW wrist rest :-). > >> model but I trusted in Kent's note and kept the 15.5mm model. You see the >> knulrled piece screws up against the wooden piece that presses against the > >Wooden?? It's aluminum on mine...You sure??? It may by aluminum but it seems to be made of a very light material with a light cross hatch on the outside. >> throttle grip and the friction causes the throttle to stick a bit (actually >> as much as you want). I must sound like a lunatic but that's how it works! >> ;-) >> >> Now the part about cutting off the shaft made more sense *but* in my case >> the shaft on the wrist rest needed to be trimmed down to 8mm, not the >> 14.5mm that worked for Kent! I have a neighbor that does nice machining > >Hmmm. What year do you have. Wouldn't think this would matter much. I have an '89. If you leave the shaft to the 14.5mm it was just too long. I suspect what I look at when I remove the end weight and what you look at are two different things. This would also make it more difficult for Honda to make these puppies :-). >> work and he did the job for me. :-) A couple of glitches however. The >> first glitch was that you need to cut a half-circle 2mm in depth from the >> end in order to "mate" with the handlebar core. The second problem was > >On mine I have the handgrip glused so they initially extended about a >centimeter past the end of the throttle tube slide. This way, you don't >have to cut a groove because the ring presses the handgrip up to the >slide tube and then the slide tube pretty much stops things from there. Same here. The mating condition that is a bit tricky is the end of the writst rest tube and the metal core in the handlebar itself. The weight has a half circle machined out of the core and this mates with another half circle in the handlebar which keeps the weight from rotating. >> that the bolt kinda rattles around in the hollow tube. Luckily my neighbor > >I don't understand this. The bolt should be holding the Wrist Rest core >very solidly up against the handlebar core. Unless... Unless the bolt >is too long maybe? I'm using a bit shorter bolt now than I the original >one. The bolt was too long but the bolt was also about 4mm in diameter and the inside of the tube extending from the wrist rest was about 10mm. It might not have been necessary but my machinist didn't like the way the bolt could mave a bit. I suspect it would have tightened down nicely but with the core in place, everything is very neat. >> not that big a dseal and it *does* work perfectly. The small pin is on the >> top and I suppose that is good (less likely to fall out) but for > >on mine, I can rotate the device any direction. The bolt simply holds it >in whatever direction I want it to remain. (I keep it pointed down.) > >> If Honda were to modify these puppies for the PC, I think they would sell a >> bundle! > >I talked to them about doing one for Hondas, but they weren't interested. >I ought to go into business making them. :^) But then you would have to get measurements from each owner since they are all (apparently) different :-). At a starting cost of $60, I don't think there is much profit in this venture ;-). >BTW, I included a picture of the Wrest Rest parts as they now exist in those >pictures of the PC I uploaded recently. I saw the picture but I didn't see the detail well enough to see how the wrist rest actually mated with the handlebar core :-). | Harrison M. Spain | Voice: (714) 952-6114 | | Systems Support Manager | Fax: (714) 952-5371 | | EDS Unigraphics | Internet: _spain@ug.eds.com | | Cypress, CA 90630 | UUCP: ...uunet!ug!_spain | ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: BMW wrist rest (from _spain@UG.EDS.COM (Harrison Spain)) (at Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:11:07 -0700 (PDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:33:32 CST Hi Harrison (Harrison Spain), in on Apr 22 you wrote: > Same here. The mating condition that is a bit tricky is the end of the > writst rest tube and the metal core in the handlebar itself. The weight Ahhh. On my PC the handlebar doesn't extend out to the end of the throttle slide tube, so it's not in the way. > The bolt was too long but the bolt was also about 4mm in diameter and the > inside of the tube extending from the wrist rest was about 10mm. It might > not have been necessary but my machinist didn't like the way the bolt could > mave a bit. I suspect it would have tightened down nicely but with the > core in place, everything is very neat. Yep. not really necessary as the thing centers itself nicely and doesn't move once it's tightened down. BTW, I did shorten the thing a bit when I put my new handgrips on and saw a better way of doing it. I mentioned this in a later message. I think I shortened it about 2 cm. I rewrote the article. Maybe I could send a copy to you and you could add some comments to it on what you had to do and we could add a few small pictures and make an html document out of it for the pc800 web server??? > >I talked to them about doing one for Hondas, but they weren't interested. > >I ought to go into business making them. :^) > > But then you would have to get measurements from each owner since they are > all (apparently) different :-). At a starting cost of $60, I don't think > there is much profit in this venture ;-). I think that a standard arrangement could be determined as the grips, etc. could just be moved a bit to compensate. After all, that's the way it works on the BMW's :^) > >BTW, I included a picture of the Wrest Rest parts as they now exist in those > >pictures of the PC I uploaded recently. > > I saw the picture but I didn't see the detail well enough to see how the > wrist rest actually mated with the handlebar core :-). Ok. I'll see if I can't take another picture that shows things a bit better. Probably be a couple of weeks before it's ready though. Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Grave Subject: Introduction To: PC 800 Hi all, I just found this list server address on the WWW site. I didn't think there were enough PC800 owners to rub together, let alone have a web site and a list server. My name is Jeff Grave and I live in Pleasanton, Ca in the San Francisco Bay Area. I have a 1990 (Red) PC800. I have the larger windshield and the passenger back rest installed in the thing. I bought it used a little over a year ago. It is a great commuter but I really need some music!! I've checked with the dealer when I bought the bike, and he could not find me the radio kit anywhere. Does anyone know where I could find one? Or has anyone installed a non-Honda (Kenwood) system on their PC?? Or maybe Honda will start making them available again, due the the '94 model releases?? HELP. Take care and happy motoring. Jeff Grave jdgrave@ccnet.com or jdgrave@uclink2.berkeley.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 11:54:04 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: BMW wrist rest > The Wrist Rest is pretty much infinitely adjustable, which includes >'no friction'. All you do is just back the thing off a little more. Maybe it's a small point, but it seems to me that you'd have to take your hand off the throttle to adjust the friction setting to zero. With the clamp type, I can just flip the lock up with my thumb, without moving my hand from the throttle, and I've got full control back instantly. > Maybe I need to provide a closeup of the Wrist Rest as mounted??? I'd like to see that. Thanks. Mike '89 Pacific Coast, and loving it! ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) Subject: Re: Re[2]: BMW wrist rest (from m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White)) (at Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT)) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 11:15:49 CST Hi Michael (Michael J White), in <199504241600.MAA02421@mwunix.mitre.org> on Apr 24 you wrote: > > The Wrist Rest is pretty much infinitely adjustable, which includes > >'no friction'. All you do is just back the thing off a little more. > > Maybe it's a small point, but it seems to me that you'd have to take your hand > off the throttle to adjust the friction setting to zero. With the clamp type, I > can just flip the lock up with my thumb, without moving my hand from the > throttle, and I've got full control back instantly. It does take a little getting used to, but remember that you can easily override the friction with the Wrist Rest, unlike the others. I release the unit two different ways - depending on what's going on: 1) I just flip the knurled knob with my little finger and it spins off. (this is when it's not very tight) 2) I close the throttle, pull in the clutch and spin it off with my index finger/thumb > > Maybe I need to provide a closeup of the Wrist Rest as mounted??? > > I'd like to see that. Thanks. I'll see what I can do... Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute Internet : kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:12:46 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: sfarrow@radford.com (Spencer Farrow) Subject: Re: Introduction > I have a 1990 (Red) PC800. >I have the larger windshield and the passenger back rest installed in the >thing. I bought it used a little over a year ago. It is a great >commuter but I really need some music!! I've checked with the dealer >when I bought the bike, and he could not find me the radio kit anywhere. I suggest that you get friendly with somebody who is a professional mobile-electronics (car stereo) installer. A buddy of mine who once did that for a living was very good, a veritable magician. He's done a bang-up job with the stereo on his Concours, and I suspect that anybody who has gotten good at installing stereo will be able to help you with your PC. Cheers - Spencer Spencer Farrow Compensation Researcher Radford Associates/A&ACG sfarrow@radford.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Bryce Ulrich To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:55:28 TZ Subject: Re: Introduction There are several intercom and bike-to-bike communicators that have input jacks for walkman's. These are battery or bike powered depending on what you want to do. Options: -------- Bike-to-bike: Chatterbox is the most popular. CB's most universal Intercom: J&M, CycleComm, Sonic, and Chatterbox Other: J&M and someone else makes a tankbag with communications and/or sound gear in it. I've seen them at some shows and in some catalogs. J&M, CycleComm are built into the bike and can be interfaced with a CB as well. Sonic is pocketsized and runs on a 9 volt. J&M is very pricey, CycleComm is in the middle, and Sonic can be built to your needs. J&M can be found in some catalogs and CycleComm runs ad's in the back of most cycle magazines. I have a Sonic system I had built in to the fairing and modified for a CB. I use a walkman in the tankbag or velcro'd to the leg of my Aerostitch. Contact Mark Reis at M-R Commications (206-335-1296) for the intercom ($200 with 2 headsets). He can also tell you what modifications can be done and how to build it in. Last time I talked with him he said he'd be able to make do-it-yourself install kits. Email me direct if you have questions. -bryceu --------------------------------------------------- Bryce Ulrich - bryceu@microsoft.com - 206/704-3205 Product Support Engineer: Microsoft Corp. '89 Honda PC800 "Pearl" AMA 332198 HRCA HM711115 --------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 13:59:56 -0400 From: WkndRider@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Say, a company named Cycle Comm used to carry the Kenwood remote AM/FM unit that Honda marketed as well for the Pacific Coast. They may still have product available. Their ad is in the back of most of the rags, and probably worth a call. If you find out anything positive or negative, let me know. See you down the road....... Allen. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:17:32 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "W" == WkndRider writes: W> Say, a company named Cycle Comm used to carry the Kenwood remote AM/FM W> unit that Honda marketed as well for the Pacific Coast. They may still W> have product available. I wonder if there's a way to get just the handlebar-mounted control pod. I already have a CD player and helmet speakers (modified $40 Sony headphones) but I would like to take apart a Sony wired remote and kludge it into something handlebar mounted. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:20:38 -0400 From: DonRafael@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Cc: danny.lane@techtips.com Subject: Your PC800 for sale I am still looking for the right price on a PC 800 Danny Lane wish to hear from you please EMail me your Phone number and we can talk in person ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:22:45 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Web site, web site, did somebody say web site? Our web site? I have been wondering how anybody stumbled on it. I've done some small work trying to search for it and have been discovering that some of the keywords that could have been included in the title were omitted. Perhaps the title should include the word motorcycle. I keep forgetting that Honda makes cars too! I was out of town and out of touch for a few days and enjoyed the flood on the wrist rest issue. I would like some definitive summary of the state-of-the-art on this stuff. I would surely love some more pictures of the thing both as installed and in process. The one picture that I did see was not much help. Kent, otherwise the pics of your bike in various states of undress were great. Next time I update the web page, I will put these up. While I was on the road, (flying, not riding alas) I face-2-faced with Jeff Adams of ASTRA (American Sport Touring Riders Association). We had a great dinner together and shot the breeze about bikes and sport touring. He told me that he had seen a picture of a PC800 dressed and painted as a traffic reporting vehicle. Has anyone seen that picture or know of any such usage. I would love to have a picture of that for the web page. Regarding tunes...My Arai helmet was a snap to install some sawed-off headphones in. The cheek cushions pull out and have a depression under a slip on cover which seems specifically for a small speakers. Once that is done, a personal portable and a belt pouch is all it takes. I bought this awesome JVC unit. It has auto-reverse cassette with Dolby (TM) and AM/FM with digital tuning and 20 presets. It also has two headphone jacks which could be handy. I always figured the speakers were for those who don't wear a helmet. Being of the helmet persuasion, I figure that building it into the bike doesn't make as much sense as wearing it. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:25:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Grave Subject: Re: PC800 Tunes To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu On Mon, 24 Apr 1995 NThompso@aol.com wrote: > Web site, web site, did somebody say web site? Our web site? I have been > wondering how anybody stumbled on it. I think the way that I "stumbled" onto your web site was doing a WebCrawler search for Harley Davidson (I ride a FXR-P for "work"). Then there was a hypertext list of other motorcycle home pages. I clicked on PC800 and there I was. > Regarding tunes...My Arai helmet was a snap to install some sawed-off > headphones in. The cheek cushions pull out and have a depression under a > slip on cover which seems specifically for a small speakers. By "sawed-off headphones" do you mean walkman-type headphones or motorcycle intercom headphones?? I have a Shoei VF-something-or-other helmet and would like to cheaply mount some speakers in the helmet. BTW, thanks for all the suggestions. I think this list will be a great resource for information. Jeff Grave jdgrave@ccnet and/or jdgrave@uclink2.berkeley.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:13:49 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: introduction Hi, everyone. My name is Jeff and I've had my black 1995 PC800 since last August. It's my first motorcycle, and I love it. (To forstall the inevitable, and good, advice--I took the MSF safe riding course before buying.) I bought it new, and the only modification so far is some SAENG/TA microswirl (TM) edging around the windscreen. It raises the pocket of protection a little--though not quite as much as I'd sometimes like--and looks pretty cool. E-mail is JeffHO@AOL.com I live in Boston, which would be motorcycle hell if it weren't in New England, which is close to heaven. Still, I have to suffer a bit with the crazy drivers to get to the twisties through quainte olde townes. I'm very interested in intercoms/communicators/CBs, especially after a recent long weekend on the bike with my girlfriend ("What?!! What?!! Oh--turn back there?") Well, I guess that's about all for now. I look forward to learning from you experienced types! Jeff ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:57:20 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: ey@forum.swarthmore.edu (E.Y. MurphEY) Subject: Re: introduction hi jeff was just in Boston for Math Teachers' Conference and marathon...missed you. have a 94 blk and chrome...with the extra edging...works reall good...but those cross wind at 60 mph can be a real stomache lift have you found your windage is unsettling when those nor'easterners come blowing through? can also find me as EYonline2@aol.com keep that plastic spotless {88} ey E.Y. MurphEY School District of Haverford Township 1801 Darby Rd. Havertown, PA 'within everything is the seed of it's apparent contradiction...by understandinging their tension and balance, truth can be found" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 09:02:40 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: intro Name: Roger Prince Location: Franklin, MA Email: Roger_Prince@DGC.ceo.dg.com or Roger_Prince@DGC.mceo.dg.com PC Model Year: 1990 (Second 90) Bought Used/New: Both bought new Modifications: Backrest, Priority Plus Rear Brake lights, J&M Intercom, 100/55w headlamp, stick-on clock and thermometer, Works Performance shocks. General: First PC in '90, traded w/58K miles for second Mar'92. Lot of two-up riding and touring plus solo commuting. Member of Honda Sport Touring Association, AMA, HRCA. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:29:11 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Hey, Roger Prince Hey, Roger Prince, can you tell us about your J&M intercom? Was it expensive? Does the "noise-cancelling" really work? How did you install it? (I have a '95 and would really like to get an intercom/communicator for it.) Also, if you don't mind, what's the deal with that brake light? I live in Boston, by the way. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:45:59 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: 1990 PC for sale (I found this on AOL; thought I'd pass it along) Subj: 90 PC800 95-04-24 18:50:01 EDT ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: GAGIII I will part with my red 1990 if anyone is looking for one. Perfect condition, 12,000 miles some factory extras. Has never missed a beat! Best offer E-Mail @ GAGIII (so e-mail from the net would be GAGIII@AOL.com) ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 13:50:33 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: introduction Hi Jeff. Welcome! I think yours is the first '95 in the group. I thought that I saw some literature that said that the '95 had dual rear shocks. Is this true? When I asked Honda about the '95, they said that it was essentially unchanged. What gives? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:07:24 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: 1990 PC for sale >From: JeffHO@aol.com >To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu > >(I found this on AOL; thought I'd pass it along) > >Subj: 90 PC800 95-04-24 18:50:01 EDT >From: GAGIII > >I will part with my red 1990 if anyone is looking for one. >Perfect condition, 12,000 miles >some factory extras. >Has never missed a beat! >Best offer >E-Mail @ GAGIII > >(so e-mail from the net would be GAGIII@AOL.com) Yeah, I saw this one and replied to ask for more info. Where it is, how much money. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:35:30 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: 1995 PC Nthompso: I was told that the 95 was identical to the 94, but I have here in front of me some product info that clearly states "dual-shock with 4-position spring-preload adjustability." (I didn't know the answer off the top of my head: isn't that embarrassing?) Nice day here in Boston: maybe I'll go for a ride. : ) Oh, wait, just remembered I'm waiting for an urgent call. Rats. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 16:36:29 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: Introduction > ...a PC800 dressed and painted as a traffic reporting vehicle. I noticed an interesting effect as I've been tooling around Northern Virginia on my '89 PC-800. Drivers often slow down when I pull into a lane behind them. It annoyed me until I realized they think I'm a cop! So few big, white motorcycles around, I guess. No. VA is a traffic-intense place with constant contention between the need to get somewhere on time through dense traffic, and the forces of law and order. I guess drivers here are just cop-sensitized. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:07:26 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Followup on PC800 for sale >Subj: Re: MB: 90 PC800 >Date: 95-04-26 17:53:48 EDT >From: GAGIII >To: NThompso > >I am the original owner. Purchased in 1992 new. It has 12,000 miles >on it. Red in color. Has backrest, front mud flap, Aero windshield >strip. Bike is located in Westchester, NY. As for the asking price, >best offer, would like to get $4500 minimun. > >Can call me @ (212)229-0722 (work) > >George ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:34:49 -0700 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: jdgrave@ccnet.com (Jeffrey D. Grave) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction >> ...a PC800 dressed and painted as a traffic reporting vehicle. >It annoyed me until I realized they think I'm a cop! So few big, white motorcycles >around, I guess. I'm new here, so I don't know if this has been posted before. The movie "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man" (Bruce Willis and Micky Rourke, I think) had a PC800 as a full dress police motor. I think I stopped and re-wound the tape twenty times looking at it. Check it out. Jeff Grave jdgrave@ccnet.com Jeff Grave jdgrave@ccnet.com ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:47:54 -0400 From: JFMinyard@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction > ...a PC800 dressed and painted as a traffic reporting vehicle. I recall seeing the article in question a couple years ago. I can't recall which magazine it was in... but I do recall that the bike was purchased by a radio station to be used for traffic reports(I believe it was in the Northeast). The station had repainted the bike, added logos and call letters and installed communication equipment to be able to broadcast during rush hour. The rationale was that the bike would enable the traffic reporter to get through traffic jams to the scene of the accident more quickly and easily than a car and allow a closer first-hand look than a helicopter. About the same time I saw an article in one of the British bike magazines about a taxi service in London that used two PC's as taxi bikes. They had radio communications and special rear floorboards and a custom backrest. The backrest was about the size of a lowback bucket seat, could be folded down, and had bungee points to attach luggage. The driver carried a blanket in the back for those mornings that were a little bit nippy. Sorry I couldn't recall the specifics of where I saw these articles. I am working on some homemade modifications for my bike that I will report on when I have successfully completed them. I would also like to hear about the brake lights that were mentioned by a member recently. I just thought of another thing... I saw an article in the HSTA StarReview a few(give or take half a year :^)) months back that mentioned replacing the PC's front fender with an ST1100's for added high speed stability. It required making some brackets as I recall. If any one has the particulars of this modification I would appreciate it. If not let me know and I will try to run down the article and get the details from the people involved and post them here. God how I want to ride this weedend. Jim Minyard HRCA, HSTA '90 PC800 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:17:21 EDT From: m14494%caasd1@MWMGATE1.mitre.org (Michael J White) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re[2]: introduction >I thought that I saw some literature that said that the '95 had dual rear >shocks. Is this true? When I asked Honda about the '95, they said that it was > essentially unchanged. What gives? A ll PC s have had dual rear shocks since day one. However, only the left one is adjustable. Maybe on the '95 model they made both adjustable? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:48:02 edt From: Roger_Prince@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM To: "pc800"@MSC.MCEO.DG.COM Subject: Forwarded: Hey, Roger Prince ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: Roger Prince:DGC Date: ## 04/27/95 09:48 ## Howdy to all the PC800 list. This is my first msg after my bare bones intro, in which I forgot a couple things. I have Progressive fork springs and my 1990 has a 1989 windscreen with a rubber spoiler. My J&M intercom was purchased in 1992 from Sierra Electronics at 1-800-338-6938. It's a basic unit MI1449@$120. and (2)HS4119FF@$180. plus $8. ship = $308. I mounted the box on the rear of the fuel tank. It's the only intercom I ever used and I'm disappointed. I now get the wind noise from the psngr's helmet which I never heard before and a lot of electrical noise, regulator frying noise, ignition noise and noise from the SOS Priority Plus unit. The SOS unit goes in series with the brake/tail/directional lights. The dir lts become running lts and the whole thing flashes for a few seconds after the brakes are applied, then burn normal. They don't flash if the turn sigs are in use. I've seen mention of "Halogen Tail Lights". Can somebody fill me in on those? My info is the 94/95PCs are the same and their only difference from the 90 is color. All have two shocks. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: JeffHO@aol.com:dg-smtp Date: ## 04/26/95 11:55 ## Hey, Roger Prince, can you tell us about your J&M intercom? Was it expensive? Does the "noise-cancelling" really work? How did you install it? (I have a '95 and would really like to get an intercom/communicator for it.) Also, if you don't mind, what's the deal with that brake light? I live in Boston, by the way. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:22:51 -0400 From: GSMcQueen@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: HSTA/J&M/ '89 for sale! Regards to the list. It seems we are getting many HSTA folks turned on to the PC800 list! How many of us are on here? Maybe we should tell the STAReview about this resource group! I know it seems that many of the PC800's in the HSTA have CB's, intercom's, etc... Maybe we can have some of them comment to the group on how they did it. Regarding noise on the J&M intercom. J&M just built a noise filter custom made to attach to the PC just as they have been doing for Goldwings and Yamahahahas. It should help alot and is <$40, also is plug and play! However, my wife and I have had minimal problems with my J&M setup. We hooked to the power source under the seat for the original radio setup but also hooked a big transformer/choke and capacitor from radio shack to the power to get rid of the regulator noise. The radio input from a walkman/discman sounds great and is volume controlled from the handlebars. The intercom is real fine, we can adjust the sensitivity so the wind noise does not activate the thing but talking does. We are using the full face helmets setup. The cb was the only noise problem that was taking some time to clear up. I purchased my J&M through an 800# in Ohio, Sierra Electronics, and the fellow (Kevin I think) there assisted J&M with their filter design. He also has cut a wire off the regulator or rectifier (I'm not sure anymore) and brought it back to the battery. I never tried this. I was also going to put a choke on the coax to the ant. for the rf noise picked up but now will be trouble shooting the install on an ST1100 instead. I know its tough to get a good ground plane without cutting the plastic up so I had a welder in the area drop a 5/8 stainless steel rod, bent to apx 90 degrees, from the right rear area of the bike. It's welded to the metal frame that helps hold the luggage area together. No cutting of plastic and it looks real clean when not attached. Maybe I should advertise my PC800 on the AOL boards? I was not getting much action here! Am I asking to much? Is Colorado to far out of the way? I know its been snowey this April, over 100" this month alone where I live. I rode the PC down to my Dad's house in Denver to leave it the otherday in another snow storm! @#$%^&@#$%^, :^(, at least people who call the add in the paper can come and see it now without four wheel drive being needed. Denver, CO. 1989 <11,000mi. pair of driving lights on the crash bars standard windshield $3700.00 (The J&M & SAENG edging has been removed to be put on my new/used ST1100) Greg McQueen, HSTA GSMcQueen@AOL.com 303.674.5168 Also of note. My wife and I are going to do the Alps on an Edelweiss tour this June, :^). Has anyone on the list taken a cycle trip in Europe? How was it, what to expect? Keep them plastic side up! Greg ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Cc: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re: HSTA/J&M/ '89 for sale! Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:13:26 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "G" == GSMcQueen writes: G> Maybe I should advertise my PC800 on the AOL boards? I was not getting G> much action here! I think the problem is that most of the people on this list already have one. The snow in Colorado can't help. Could you be so kind as to give the order numbers for the crash bar lights and brighter bulb from JCWhitney? Some list member was kind enough to put me on the catalog mailing list, but I can't tell which of the many small driving lights would work best. - J ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 22:46:36 +0100 To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu From: msurinx@versaversa.be (marc.surinx) Subject: Hoping to buy/import a PC800 in Euorpe Hi, I am living in Belgium Europe and currently driving a CX500Turbo, a classic CX500 and a CR250. Currently I am looking to buy a PC800 but as they are not for sale in Europe, I would like to import one from the east coast (new or used). All info about pricing, colors, dealers, tests, bikes for sale are all welcome. Name: Marc Surinx Location: Belgium Email: msurinx@versaversa.be PC Model year (if you have one): HOPING TO BUY ONE Bought Used/New: Modifications made to bike: T H A N K S ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 22:49:08 +0100 To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu From: msurinx@versaversa.be (marc.surinx) Subject: get pc800 pc800.9504 get pc800 pc800.9504 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:55:50 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: introduction >>All PC s have had dual rear shocks since day one. However, only the left one is adjustable. Maybe on the '95 model they made both adjustable?<< No: only the left one is adjustable on the '95. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:56:36 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hoping to buy/import a PC800 in Euorpe Greetings Marc Surinx: I was recently in Paris and I saw several PC800's during the week I was there (although I suppose it could have been repeated sightings of just two bikes). Are you sure they're not available in France? ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:28:38 -0400 From: NThompso@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC Owner's Club Jeff Adams from ASTRA (American Sport Touring Rider's Association) sent this to me. I haven't followed up on it yet. Does anybody know anything about this? PC OWNER'S CLUB Sam Hershfield 4316 MARINA CITY DR #321 MARINA DEL RAY CA 90202 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 14:15:07 +0100 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: msurinx@versaversa.be (marc.surinx) Subject: Re: Hoping to buy/import a PC800 in Euorpe >Greetings Marc Surinx: > >I was recently in Paris and I saw several PC800's during the week I was there >(although I suppose it could have been repeated sightings of just two bikes). >Are you sure they're not available in France? Greetings back to you, You are absolutely right, but Honda France importd only 89 and 90 models. Currently a used 20000 miles 89 cost about $8000 ! So thats the reason that I am looking to import one. I have another question: I know the 89-90 models quite well, do you know there are technical and/or esthetic change to the 95 models compared to 89-90's. Thanks, Marc ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 09:59:24 -0400 From: JFMinyard@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hoping to buy/impo... >I have another question: I know the 89-90 models quite well, do you >know there are technical and/or esthetic change to the 95 models >compared to 89-90's. Except for a color change from red/silver to black/silver the 94-95's are virtually unchanged from the 90 model. Jim Minyard ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 11:57:36 -0400 From: JeffHO@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hoping to buy/import a PC800 in Euorpe Our Belgian friend Marc writes: >>I have another question: I know the 89-90 models quite well, do you know there are technical and/or esthetic change to the 95 models compared to 89-90's.<< My understanding, Marc, is that the bike has been unchanged for years. Either Honda figured they got it right the first time or the don't think the potential sales justify reengineering/retooling production. Makes me wonder if there's any way we could get official Honda input? I can't believe used '89 PC800s are going for $8000! I got my '95 for $7600!! (sorry--just had to gloat). (5.65a/IDA-1.4.2 for pc800@tcamc.uh.edu); Sat, 29 Apr 95 22:46:07 -0400 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 22:45:16 -0400 From: Jeff Horn To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/RMR/PC800/pc800inf.html I would like to get some information. Name: Jeff Horn Location: USA Virginia Email: jeffh@fcbs.com PC Model year: I don't own a PC yet I am currently considering buying a 1995 model. If you have any info you can e-mail me. I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance Jeff Horn ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "J. Burach" Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:36:12 -0400 To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu, st1100@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Cc: jeffy3@pipeline.com Subject: WTB: PC or ST1100 (NYC region) Seeking a PC800 or ST1100 in NYC region. If you know of one, please e-mail to Jeffy3@pipeline.com. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaanu.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: fuel vapor leak Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 20:08:10 CST My PC800 recently developed a fuel vapor leak that I can't locate. I started smelling it occassionally in the garage just after putting the bike up, and now it's to the point I can smell it when stopped at a light. I've pulled the carbs and there's no visible leak, the floats are set right and I can't see anything else that may contribute. Now I think I smell it more behind the fuel tank than anywhere else but see no evidence of a leak. Question: Does the Honda repair manual indicate anything associated with the fuel pump that needs maintenance (after 40k miles) or could be associated with a vapor leak? (I never bought a manual) Thanks Much! Kent Polk: kent@eaanu.nde.swri.edu (DoF #) : Official DoF Squid Motto: "Ride Hard/Crash Gently" ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: fuel vapor leak Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:52:40 -0500 From: Jason L Tibbitts III >>>>> "KP" == Kent Polk writes: KP> Question: Does the Honda repair manual indicate anything associated KP> with the fuel pump that needs maintenance (after 40k miles) or could be KP> associated with a vapor leak? (I never bought a manual) Well, I would suspect the evap system if you had the California model. Assuming the smell is coming from the carb/engine area instead from around the tank, I'd suspect the several connections around the fuel cutoff valve or the carbs, which you checked. The manual doesn't mention anything special. - J