********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeffdnkl@netcom.com (Jeffrey Dunkle) Subject: Step-Dad saga/Another price To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 05:50:28 -0800 (PST) The step-dad thinking he wanted a PC saga continues. Only telling to put out another price and advise where another '94 is located. He got to the Honda dealer in New Bern, NC, found a new, left over '94, got him to quote a $6,100 price, and got a fairly disgrunteled story about how poorly this model cycle has sold. The feeling was that an offer as low as $5,900 cash might get that bike. Step-dad now knows he doesn't want a PC since he's actually, finally "seen" one.....telling FYI incase someone in the mid-atlantic area really wants a new one. Jeff Dunkle jeffdnkl@netcom.com '81 CX-500 AMA 389181 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:49:32 -0500 From: GSMcQueen@aol.com To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Denver Show Information Hello folks While at the Denver International Show I found some information on some of the items that we have been looking/talking about. Suspension: Works Performance Products Inc.,8730 Shirley Ave., Northridge, CA, 91324 phone 818.701.1010, fax 818.701.9043 The owner has a PC800. They suggest their steel bodied trackers for PC's as they do not show anyway. Kent are these what you have??? They custom valve & spring them based on your weight, passenger weight, and riding style. They also have fork springs. (Kent did you do the back only or both front & rear?) They are talking about an air shock early next year that could be adjusted with fittings ran to the gas/trunk hatch. They are also interested in putting the quick adjustment levers (ARS) on the street trackers at the bottom so that they could be accessed on a PC. Kent does it look like there would be enough room at the bottom? They have a lever (ARS) method of adjustment and a threaded lock nut method. They seem interested in hearing from PC owners and wanted me to share their number. They may consider giving a group rate if we have several interested PC'ers. ( Each set of shocks would be individually adjusted/built to spec for the individual not the group) Windshields Rifle wasn't there. Clearview Shields, 18301 W. Colfax R-3, Golden, CO, 80401 Phone 800.798.6089 or local 303.279.6086. I guess the guy builds a great shield from scratch, have them send you a flier if you are want. He wasn't at the show either but a flier was being handed out. I bumped into several people who raved about this guys work so I thought I would mention him. The Windshield Wiper "Cycle Wiper" Infinity, 14818 N.E. 95th, Redmond, WA, 98052 phone 206.556.9800 or 800.886.6842, fax 206.556.8383 they have dealers throughout the US they could fax you the info on their dealers. Stealth edging SAENG Touring Accesories Corp. 1-800-touring (800.868.7464) Edging, Winglets, Polish/Wax, Hitec bungees & radar/equip mounts Stereo Stuff J&M was not there. RKA, 2175 "B" Bluebell Dr., Santa Rosa, CA, 95403 RKA luggage was and they have a radio tank bag thats prebuilt to work with a 5 pin headset (industry standard). They also do radio/cb in a similar bag but not quit as integrated as J&M but not near the cost either. I think they are members of HSTA and HSTA members get a discount. They seemed like nice people and they love to ride! HSTA Honda Sport Touring Assoc. They have quite a few PC800's in the club and in Colorado they seemed like a nice enough group. I joined after riding with them this summer. They have chapters everywhere. If you want to get information on the club contact their "Electronic Ambassador" Jim Alexander via the net at login: jalexand@netcom.com he can send you some info. Tires Well still only two choices here Metz & Dunlop The Metz rep and Kent have convinced me to give them a try next spring. Seats Corbin was at the show but do not want to examine the fact that the seat they build is not for every PC rider! My quest goes on for the builder/owner of the custom rumble seat with hard back & OE looks from MN! I hope this was of use. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: kent@eaenki.nde.swri.edu (Kent Polk) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Denver Show Information (from GSMcQueen@aol.com) (at Tue, 06 Dec 1994 18:49:32 -0500) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 21:59:58 CST Hi GSMcQueen (GSMcQueen), in <941206184446_7364007@aol.com> on Dec 06 you wrote: > While at the Denver International Show I found some information on some of > the items that we have been looking/talking about. Thanks much for the info. > Suspension: > Works Performance Products Inc.,8730 Shirley Ave., Northridge, CA, 91324 > phone 818.701.1010, fax 818.701.9043 > The owner has a PC800. They suggest their steel bodied trackers for PC's as > they do not show anyway. Kent are these what you have??? They custom valve & > spring them based on your weight, passenger weight, and riding style. They > also have fork springs. (Kent did you do the back only or both front & rear?) I don't remember the name, but it sounds like what I got. My rear shocks have dual-rate springs. Preset at the factory. I told them my weight and the aux. weight that I usually run with. I figured an aux. of 100 lbs would be a good average between running empty and running with a passenger. I should have gone another 20-30 lbs. :^( And I asked for full compression and rebound damping. Good choice on that one. I got my fork springs elsewhere. BTW, I just remembered (went out to check clearance for the next question). I had some kind of difficulty with the bottom spacers that came with the WP shocks. I can't remember (two years ago), but I think I ended up hacking up the stock spacers as the WP spacers were too far off. Memory... :^( Dang. Memory is coming back all at once... I also asked for another 1/2 inch of shock length to compensate for the lower-profile ML2 and the fact that I wanted more cornering clearance. Had completely forgotten about that. WP was concerned about the extra length, but I had checked it out and anyway, they worked great. > with fittings ran to the gas/trunk hatch. They are also interested in putting > the quick adjustment levers (ARS) on the street trackers at the bottom so > that they could be accessed on a PC. > Kent does it look like there would be enough room at the bottom? They have a The WP shock profile is pretty much the same as the stock, so with the bike on the sidestand (worst case off the bike), there's, what, 3 inches behind, some towards the tire. On mine, about a half inch of the shock body (not the mount) extends below the trunk box. Would be more height clearance on the centerstand. Don't know what the adjustment would require since I've never seen it. However, I would *highly* recommend that if WP made an adjustable preload shock for the PC of some type, that you buy it instead of the fixed preload. Period... I cannot safely carry a 180lb passenger on mine. :^( > Stealth edging > Edging, Winglets, Polish/Wax, Hitec bungees & radar/equip mounts The 'Can-Do' cleaner/polish works! I bought a couple of cans when I got my edging. Sold one can to my flying buddy and kept the other for the PC. I spend easily half as much time cleaning the bike as I used to with this stuff. About $5 a can I think. Big aerosol can. > The Metz rep and Kent have convinced me to give them a try next spring. Amen. Don't buy a Dunlop k491 for the rear. As much as I complained about the ML2, at least I didn't have to worry about it freaking out on me when cold. And I think it's even getting worse tire mileage than the ML2. Whether you opt for a radial or not is a very valid question. I'd say unless you really push the thing, don't get a radial. I think it chops my gas mileage and is a bit noisier, but on the other hand, what it does on the edge of the tread makes up for it, IMHO. You didn't see anyone there with a fork brace for the PC did you??? :^( :^( (I gotta have a fork brace :^( Kent Polk: kent@eaanu.nde.swri.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeffdnkl@netcom.com (Jeffrey Dunkle) Subject: Saw low miledge '89 for sale To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 11:38:48 -0800 (PST) Happened to stop in at Z&M Cycle, Latrobe PA. They have an '89 PC they just took in trade with 900 original miles on it. Asking price too high.....but if anyone's dying for a red PC.....just thought I'd pass along. Jeff Dunkle jeffdnkl@netcom.com '76 R-90/6 AMA 389181 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Thu, 08 Dec 1994 00:38:21 -0600 (CST) From: ST1ZZ@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: Re: Saw low miledge '89 for sale To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu If it is red then isn't it a 90 model??? Kevin Yeoman St1zz@jetson.uh.edu ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: jeffdnkl@netcom.com (Jeffrey Dunkle) Subject: Re: Saw low miledge '89 for sale To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 03:58:05 -0800 (PST) > > If it is red then isn't it a 90 model??? > Kevin Yeoman > St1zz@jetson.uh.edu > That's what I thougt...and told the salesman.....but he said '89, and I blindly repeated it on the post.... Anyway....a PC...or any bike...that's 4, 5, or 6 years old, and only 900 miles.....not right. Like owning a black Lab and never taking him/her for a run. Jeff Dunkle jeffdnkl@netcom.com '76 R-90/6 AMA 389181 ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu From: nthompso@az15eh09.iac.honeywell.com (Neill Thompson) Subject: PC800 for sale Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 09:57:11 Cc: nthompso@az15eh09.iac.honeywell.com Just thought I'd pass this along from the November issue of the HSTA STAReview classified ads. "FOR SALE: Honda PC800 pearl grey '89 model, loaded. Absolutely showroom condition, always garaged, 11K miles. Lambswool seat, tall windshield, Hondaline Kenwood AM/FM radio, rear spoiler, throttle lock, wind wings. Not Cheap, $5375. If you want a first class bike, this is it. G. Boyce Bazzell, AL, W 205/592-4900 H 205/592-8181" Standard disclaimers apply. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Thompson 'The Prince of Dorkness' |'82 Honda CM200T Honeywell Inc. 'Helping you control your world' |"Wee Bad" nthompso@csa-dev.iac.honeywell.com (work) |'94 Honda PC800 nthompso@aol.com (home) |"Little Wing" -------------------------------------------------|'94 Ford Ranger DOD 1133 AMA 371208 HRCA HM295612 HSTA 5477|"Kimosabbe" ------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: bmodlin@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Bruce C. Modlin) Subject: Re: PC800 for sale To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 11:51:08 -0600 (CST) > > > "FOR SALE: Honda PC800 pearl grey '89 model, loaded. Absolutely showroom > condition, always garaged, 11K miles. Lambswool seat, tall windshield, > Hondaline Kenwood AM/FM radio, rear spoiler, throttle lock, wind wings. Not > Cheap, $5375. If you want a first class bike, this is it. G. Boyce Bazzell, > AL, W 205/592-4900 H 205/592-8181" > > Standard disclaimers apply. > You know it's a bad sign when the guy pays for extra space in his own ad to express the obvious, "Not Cheap" How about exorbatunt expensive, price gouching, 2 grand over blue book ripoff. The color is white dude, Kelvinator refrigerator white and I like it that way. Don't try any hide it by calling it "pearl grey", thats some pipsqueak, hornrimmed marketing guy speak for what it is. If thats grey that order me up a couple of pin stripe suits in that same conservative grey so I can ride this yuppie beast to work in and be color coordinating. I don't care if the bike slept in bed with him these past 6 years, it's still too fu*king much. It's an insult to us serious owners to parade an overpriced whore on the market. I'm just getting started, happy Holidays. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** From: "Rick Thompson" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:15:55 -0600 "Re: PC800: PC800 for sale" (Dec 12, 11:51am) To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: PC800 for sale On Dec 12, 11:51am, Bruce C. Modlin wrote: > Subject: Re: PC800 for sale > > > > > > "FOR SALE: Honda PC800 pearl grey '89 model, loaded. Absolutely showroom > > condition, always garaged, 11K miles. Lambswool seat, tall windshield, > > Hondaline Kenwood AM/FM radio, rear spoiler, throttle lock, wind wings. Not > > Cheap, $5375. If you want a first class bike, this is it. G. Boyce Bazzell, > > AL, W 205/592-4900 H 205/592-8181" > > > > Standard disclaimers apply. > > > You know it's a bad sign when the guy pays for extra space in his own ad > to express the obvious, "Not Cheap" How about exorbatunt expensive, price > gouching, 2 grand over blue book ripoff. The color is white dude, Kelvinator > refrigerator white and I like it that way. Don't try any hide it by calling > it "pearl grey", thats some pipsqueak, hornrimmed marketing guy speak for > what it is. If thats grey that order me up a couple of pin stripe suits in > that same conservative grey so I can ride this yuppie beast to work in and > be color coordinating. I don't care if the bike slept in bed with him > these past 6 years, it's still too fu*king much. It's an insult to us > serious owners to parade an overpriced whore on the market. > > I'm just getting started, happy Holidays. > > >-- End of excerpt from Bruce C. Modlin ****************************************************************************** Well, I personally agree that it is too much....I would not pay that much. However, this past summer I saw two used 89's at the local Honda shop in Austin, Minnesota, both for $4800 (one had 30K miles). Then, I saw a used 89 in a Honda shop in Richmond, Indiana for $5500. later -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick L. Thompson Internet: thompson@mayo.edu Mayo Clinic - Gugg. Bldg. RM 1018-A Phone: (507) 284-4428 Rochester, MN 55905 FAX: (507) 284-9171 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 11:29:40 -0800 To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu From: korbel@maverick.llnl.gov (George Korbel) Subject: Choke Hi guys! Could someone be so kind and explain to me what happens when I am stupid and don't close the choke after the engine is warmed up. In last 10K miles I did it about 2 or 3 times, each time for about 30-50 miles; last time yesterday - 50 miles in 50 degree weather with open choke. I don't think I am the only one, but I'd like to hear some expert's opinion. Thanks, George. George Korbel Lawrence Livermore National Labs. George Korbel Lawrence Livermore National Labs. ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 14:35:19 -0600 From: Grady Trew To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Hello... Hello All! Thought I'd drop in and post the recommend statistics about myself to the list, then I guess head off for the weekend for holiday. Name: Grady Trew Location: Victoria, TX Email: grady@icsi.net PC Model Year: Hopefully a '95 Bought Used/New:New I am currently trying to find the time to actually get down and buy the thing. My job keeps me pretty busy all the time. The slack time that I do have seems to fall on riding days when the shops are closed (sunday/monday). I hope to pick it up sometime next month. I was also curious if anyone have developed a WWW page for the bike? If not, I was considering doing something here with it. If anyone would be interested in HTML'ing the FAQ? :-) Well I'd better head out, I still haven't bought my wife a christmas present yet. More later... Grady ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Grady Trew, Jr., S.A. grady@icsi.net Internet Connect Services, Inc. http://www.icsi.net/~grady/ 202 W. Goodwin Ave. (512) 572-9987 Victoria, Texas USA 77901 fax (512) 572-8193 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You know you've been at it too long when you're reading a book and look for the space bar to get to the next page. -Anonymous ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 14:55:26 -0600 From: Grady Trew To: pc800@sina.tcamc.uh.edu Subject: PC800 Images Would anyone out there happen to have any images sacnned of the PC800? Gif, jpeg, whatever, I can convert from most anything. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Grady Trew, Jr., S.A. grady@icsi.net Internet Connect Services, Inc. http://www.icsi.net/~grady/ 202 W. Goodwin Ave. (512) 572-9987 Victoria, Texas USA 77901 fax (512) 572-8193 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You know you've been at it too long when you're reading a book and look for the space bar to get to the next page. -Anonymous ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800 Subject: Sending images... Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 11:59:07 -0600 From: Jason L Tibbitts III Merry Christmas, everyone! If you want to respond to Mr. Trew's request for images, please don't send them to the list. You can FTP stuff to sina.tcamc.uh.edu (129.7.3.5) in /pub/incoming/pc800. I've configured the list software to require my approval on large messages anyway, so if you do send something huge it won't go out to anyone. --- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@tcamc.uh.edu - 713/743-8687 - 221SR1 System Admin: Texas Center for Advanced Molecular Computation 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 GM/CS/S d--- -p+ c++++ l++ u+++ e+ m---(++) n--- s/-- h* f+ g+ w+ t- r- y+** ********** MESSAGE SEPARATOR ********** To: pc800@tcamc.uh.edu Subject: Re: Hello... Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 12:12:12 -0600 From: Jason L Tibbitts III GT> Thought I'd drop in and post the recommend statistics about myself to GT> the list, then I guess head off for the weekend for holiday. Welcome aboard! GT> I was also curious if anyone have developed a WWW page for the bike? Actually Neill Thompson wrote one, but it couldn't be served from his internal network so he handed it to me. I've been sitting on it since then, but hopefully the holiday will give me some time to work on it. GT> Well I'd better head out, I still haven't bought my wife a Christmas GT> present yet. Perhaps an IOU for one ride on your new bike? --- Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@tcamc.uh.edu - 713/743-8687 - 221SR1 System Admin: Texas Center for Advanced Molecular Computation 1994 PC800 "Kuroneko" DoD# 1723 GM/CS/S d--- -p+ c++++ l++ u+++ e+ m---(++) n--- s/-- h* f+ g+ w+ t- r- y+**